[talk-ph] Unpassable roads TS mario

2014-09-19 Thread maning sambale
Ninoy from DSWD is asking for assistance to map unpassable roads. They have
a list, still getting permission to share publicly. Those interested let me
know. Keep safe everyone, dont do field mapping today!

Maning Sambale (mobile)
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Re: [talk-ph] Unpassable roads TS mario

2014-09-19 Thread maning sambale
Dear everyone,

Thanks Sorbi for the offer.
As I said DSWD-DROMMIC a member of the NDRRM c/o Ninoy Castro is
asking our help to locate unpassable roads.
The list is here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-2WZQ1DwK_xc3lqanYwNFdKd3I1Wk9uS1U0WmdvYnVzY1Rn/edit?usp=sharing

I created a geojson file yoy can edit via geojson.io here:
http://geojson.io/#id=gist:maning/02cc96e4fb9e0b314a13map=11/14.6198/121.0172

I just added two tags: name and status

Please edit that file (or create your own) and send the link in this
thread.  If you are not comfortable editing the file just send us
coordinates of the roads in the list you can identify in the map.

I'll check again later if there are updates.  Thanks!


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:43 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ninoy from DSWD is asking for assistance to map unpassable roads. They have
 a list, still getting permission to share publicly. Those interested let me
 know. Keep safe everyone, dont do field mapping today!

 Maning Sambale (mobile)



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Re: [talk-ph] Unpassable roads TS mario

2014-09-19 Thread Sorvigenaleon Ildefonso
Alright, Maning. I'll update the geojson file as much as I can.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:48 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear everyone,

 Thanks Sorbi for the offer.
 As I said DSWD-DROMMIC a member of the NDRRM c/o Ninoy Castro is
 asking our help to locate unpassable roads.
 The list is here:

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-2WZQ1DwK_xc3lqanYwNFdKd3I1Wk9uS1U0WmdvYnVzY1Rn/edit?usp=sharing

 I created a geojson file yoy can edit via geojson.io here:

 http://geojson.io/#id=gist:maning/02cc96e4fb9e0b314a13map=11/14.6198/121.0172

 I just added two tags: name and status

 Please edit that file (or create your own) and send the link in this
 thread.  If you are not comfortable editing the file just send us
 coordinates of the roads in the list you can identify in the map.

 I'll check again later if there are updates.  Thanks!


 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:43 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ninoy from DSWD is asking for assistance to map unpassable roads. They
 have
  a list, still getting permission to share publicly. Those interested let
 me
  know. Keep safe everyone, dont do field mapping today!
 
  Maning Sambale (mobile)



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Re: [talk-ph] Unpassable roads TS mario

2014-09-19 Thread Erwin Olario
The attached report was issued at 12:00H, that's 4 hours old. Are there
more recent updates?

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On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:48 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear everyone,

 Thanks Sorbi for the offer.
 As I said DSWD-DROMMIC a member of the NDRRM c/o Ninoy Castro is
 asking our help to locate unpassable roads.
 The list is here:

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-2WZQ1DwK_xc3lqanYwNFdKd3I1Wk9uS1U0WmdvYnVzY1Rn/edit?usp=sharing

 I created a geojson file yoy can edit via geojson.io here:

 http://geojson.io/#id=gist:maning/02cc96e4fb9e0b314a13map=11/14.6198/121.0172

 I just added two tags: name and status

 Please edit that file (or create your own) and send the link in this
 thread.  If you are not comfortable editing the file just send us
 coordinates of the roads in the list you can identify in the map.

 I'll check again later if there are updates.  Thanks!


 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:43 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ninoy from DSWD is asking for assistance to map unpassable roads. They
 have
  a list, still getting permission to share publicly. Those interested let
 me
  know. Keep safe everyone, dont do field mapping today!
 
  Maning Sambale (mobile)



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Re: [talk-ph] Unpassable roads TS mario

2014-09-19 Thread Sorvigenaleon Ildefonso
Hello!

Here's the geojson link
http://geojson.io/#id=gist:sorbi/ec617f119126879136famap=14/14.5043/120.9940

I missed some though.

Stay safe everyone!

Cheers,
Sorbi


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:48 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear everyone,

 Thanks Sorbi for the offer.
 As I said DSWD-DROMMIC a member of the NDRRM c/o Ninoy Castro is
 asking our help to locate unpassable roads.
 The list is here:

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-2WZQ1DwK_xc3lqanYwNFdKd3I1Wk9uS1U0WmdvYnVzY1Rn/edit?usp=sharing

 I created a geojson file yoy can edit via geojson.io here:

 http://geojson.io/#id=gist:maning/02cc96e4fb9e0b314a13map=11/14.6198/121.0172

 I just added two tags: name and status

 Please edit that file (or create your own) and send the link in this
 thread.  If you are not comfortable editing the file just send us
 coordinates of the roads in the list you can identify in the map.

 I'll check again later if there are updates.  Thanks!


 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:43 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ninoy from DSWD is asking for assistance to map unpassable roads. They
 have
  a list, still getting permission to share publicly. Those interested let
 me
  know. Keep safe everyone, dont do field mapping today!
 
  Maning Sambale (mobile)



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 cheers,
 maning
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Re: [talk-ph] Unpassable roads TS mario

2014-09-19 Thread maning sambale
Thanks Sorbi!

@LA and Ninoy,

Please go to this link to download the geocoded points.
http://geojson.io/#id=gist:maning/e4dc46623dc928165ccamap=11/14.5782/121.0414


You can get various formats such as KML, Shapefile, geojson, etc under
the Save menu.
Still incomplete but hope you find it useful.  Let us know if you need
more help.


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Sorvigenaleon Ildefonso
sorbi.ildefo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello!

 Here's the geojson link
 http://geojson.io/#id=gist:sorbi/ec617f119126879136famap=14/14.5043/120.9940

 I missed some though.

 Stay safe everyone!

 Cheers,
 Sorbi


 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:48 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear everyone,

 Thanks Sorbi for the offer.
 As I said DSWD-DROMMIC a member of the NDRRM c/o Ninoy Castro is
 asking our help to locate unpassable roads.
 The list is here:

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-2WZQ1DwK_xc3lqanYwNFdKd3I1Wk9uS1U0WmdvYnVzY1Rn/edit?usp=sharing

 I created a geojson file yoy can edit via geojson.io here:

 http://geojson.io/#id=gist:maning/02cc96e4fb9e0b314a13map=11/14.6198/121.0172

 I just added two tags: name and status

 Please edit that file (or create your own) and send the link in this
 thread.  If you are not comfortable editing the file just send us
 coordinates of the roads in the list you can identify in the map.

 I'll check again later if there are updates.  Thanks!


 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:43 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ninoy from DSWD is asking for assistance to map unpassable roads. They
  have
  a list, still getting permission to share publicly. Those interested let
  me
  know. Keep safe everyone, dont do field mapping today!
 
  Maning Sambale (mobile)



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 cheers,
 maning
 --
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 wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
 blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
 --





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Re: [talk-ph] Unpassable roads TS mario

2014-09-19 Thread maning sambale
uMap version: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ts-mario_17234#11/14.6248/121.0128

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 6:30 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Sorbi!

 @LA and Ninoy,

 Please go to this link to download the geocoded points.
 http://geojson.io/#id=gist:maning/e4dc46623dc928165ccamap=11/14.5782/121.0414


 You can get various formats such as KML, Shapefile, geojson, etc under
 the Save menu.
 Still incomplete but hope you find it useful.  Let us know if you need
 more help.


 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Sorvigenaleon Ildefonso
 sorbi.ildefo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello!

 Here's the geojson link
 http://geojson.io/#id=gist:sorbi/ec617f119126879136famap=14/14.5043/120.9940

 I missed some though.

 Stay safe everyone!

 Cheers,
 Sorbi


 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:48 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear everyone,

 Thanks Sorbi for the offer.
 As I said DSWD-DROMMIC a member of the NDRRM c/o Ninoy Castro is
 asking our help to locate unpassable roads.
 The list is here:

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-2WZQ1DwK_xc3lqanYwNFdKd3I1Wk9uS1U0WmdvYnVzY1Rn/edit?usp=sharing

 I created a geojson file yoy can edit via geojson.io here:

 http://geojson.io/#id=gist:maning/02cc96e4fb9e0b314a13map=11/14.6198/121.0172

 I just added two tags: name and status

 Please edit that file (or create your own) and send the link in this
 thread.  If you are not comfortable editing the file just send us
 coordinates of the roads in the list you can identify in the map.

 I'll check again later if there are updates.  Thanks!


 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:43 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ninoy from DSWD is asking for assistance to map unpassable roads. They
  have
  a list, still getting permission to share publicly. Those interested let
  me
  know. Keep safe everyone, dont do field mapping today!
 
  Maning Sambale (mobile)



 --
 cheers,
 maning
 --
 Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden
 wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
 blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
 --





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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Destination tagging on motorways

2014-09-19 Thread Johan C
also for the link your page explaining connectivity:lane. I had not heard
about that one before.
but now I have to go over all my work of the past few months to add that
tag where needed :-)

since a lot ( 98%?) of the crossings are simple in terms of destination
(like: when you go left you're driving towards Antwerp) and thus have
obvious connectivity, a relation like connectivity:lane will not be needed
often. There is no standard yet for tagging non-obvious connectivity.
Please let me know if you think you have found a situation where
non-obvious connectivity occurs.

What I mean with splitting the outgoing road, is how far do we want the
destination to extend: til the next crossing, even when that is kilometers
away ? or the other extreme, split the street after a few meters, so that
future mappers won't split the street further on, and still keep the
destination tag on both segments ?

Having destination info on way segments is just needed to provide
information to the driver. Therefore, I would from a practical point of
view limit this destination data to situations close to junctions. This
will also avoid using the forward and backward destination tagging. The
exact length is I think not so important. I would just use the first
segment available regardless of its length.

So you won't add lanes:destination before the crossing ? (just to make
sure)

No, not in this situation. That would only be needed in situations where
there is a difference in destinations immediately áfter the crossing (the
left lane directly after the crossing going to destination x, the right
lane immediately after the crossing going to destination y)

What I meant is that Google is only allowed to copyright artwork, not
facts nor even some pictures or parts thereof representing facts like road
signs.  I don't see why you need copying pictures to build destination
tags.
The DWG is clear on using contents of Google's photos:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2014-April/007750.html.
Luckily, However, Mapillary can be used: http://www.mapillary.com/osm.html.
All it takes for Google (being the nice company they are) is start using
the same words: For the purpose of contributing metadata to OpenStreetMap,
we allow anyone to derive metadata from our photos.

Cheers, Johan

2014-09-12 15:28 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:

  On 2014-09-11 00:27, Johan C wrote :

  Hi André

  OSM GPS routers use destination
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination=* not to compute the
 routes, they can do without,  but to know what the drivers see on the signs
 in order to use the same information in spoken instructions

  That's correct

  Shouldn't the same ref=* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref as
 of the motorway be used on all highway
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=motorway_link
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_link?

  *If the motorway link has these signs*, they can be used.

  *there is no name to use* for a GPS to call a motorway entrance.

  The OSM situation should *reflect current signage*: if there are no
 signs, the destination tag should not be used

 So, I had correctly understood despite that, as unfortunately often the
 case, the key definition is very badly stated (the proof of that is that
 the French and German translators have got it and translated totally
 wrong).  So, I made the following change to the wiki:
 Old:

 The key *destination* describes the destination of the way by using the
 name of the city the way is heading to, which is explicitly indicated in a
 signpost or similiar on the ground.

 New:

 So that GPS-like software can refer to road signs that the driver actually
 sees, the key *destination*=* describes the contents of signposts or
 ground writing indicating the names of the cities that the way on which the
 key is tagged is leading to.

 It is worth spending time to precisely write definitions.
 It avoids many map mistakes needing much more time to fix and makes a much
 better OSM.

   I'm not sure you can copy the pictures

  Google is a nice company, but they are not open. Their terms prohibit
 copying contents pictures. But all it takes to get lane assistant in
 Belgium is a few people who access motorways every now and then taking
 pictures of the signs.

 What I meant is that Google is only allowed to copyright artwork, not
 facts nor even some pictures or parts thereof representing facts like road
 signs.  I don't see why you need copying pictures to build destination tags.

 Cheers,

   André.


  Cheers, Johan



 2014-09-10 23:30 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:

  On 2014-09-09 22:14, Johan C wrote :

 In Nederland heb ik de snelwegen op veel plaatsen voorzien van
 bestemmingen. Als bijrijder ben ik in de gelegenheid geweest om afgelopen
 maand de bebording op de route Breda-Antwerpen-Gent-Kortrijk-Lille vice
 versa te fotograferen. Die wil ik graag op de manier zoals ik die in
 

[OSM-talk] Mapbox Data Team Guidelines

2014-09-19 Thread Alex Barth
Two new full time OpenStreetMap mappers have joined the Mapbox team this
week. This is exciting for me as it allows us to do more direct work on OSM
and contribute back directly. With this recent addition we also want to
introduce guidelines establishing some simple but important rules of how we
want to map as a team within the OpenStreetMap community. I've summarized
them on this diary entry. Looking forward to feedback:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lxbarth/diary/23801

There's been some prior discussion on organizational mapping policies and I
want to thank people on the thread over here for inspiration:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-May/069772.html

Have a great weekend everyone -

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[OSM-talk-nl] Overlay met directionele metingen laagfrequent geluid

2014-09-19 Thread Pander
Hoi allemaal,

Wat is de beste manier om een overlay te maken voor een project waarin
metingen op verschillende locaties worden gedaan naar laagfrequent geluid.

Per locatie zijn er verschillende type metingen en metingen die
directioneel zijn, dus naar het noorden, oosten, zuiden en westen.

Is dat handig in één of meerdere overlays op te slaan? Is het handig om
gecombineerde iconen te gebruiken waarvan kleur, segment of grootte
correspondeert met intensiteit en richting van de metingen? Is
overpass-tubro hier geschikt voor?

Ik las deze week dat GitHub zelfs geoJSON ondersteund en dat lijkt me
gelijk ook een goede plek om een dergelijk project te hosten.

Gaarne ontvang ik wat tips om dit efficiënt op te kunnen zetten. Mochten
er meer mensen interesse hebben om onder leiding van experst met
professionele meetapparatuur laagfrequent geluid in kaart te brengen
vanwege meldingen van overlast dan hoor ik dat graag.

Groetjes,

Pander

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Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail is not a dedicated bicycle route

2014-09-19 Thread Mark Rennick
Thank you for the comments. Makes a lot of sense.

 

Just on the BNT being happy with the route being mapped on OSM.  Given the 
route is sign posted to the public on the ground there shouldn’t be an issue 
providing accuracy is maintained. It is also mapped in other public mapping 
resources. The route shouldn’t be changed readily without signage change. To be 
a useful online resource OSM must be kept up to date in accordance with any 
route changes.

 

 

 

 

 

From: Warin [mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, 15 September 2014 8:47 AM
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail is not a dedicated bicycle 
route

 

 On 14/09/2014 11:25 AM, Mark Rennick wrote:

I note there has been mapping of the Bicentennial National Trail as a ‘bicycle 
route’ in the Victorian Alpine National Park area.

 

I have two comments on this:

 

1.   This trail is not a dedicated ‘bicycle route’. 

 

As stated on the http://www.bicentennialnationaltrail.com.au/about/ web site: 
‘The Bicentennial National Trail is Australia’s premier long distance, 
multi-use recreational trekking route...The 
National Trail was originally conceived as a route for the long distance horse 
trekker but is now enjoyed by cyclists and hikers as well.’ 

 

I believe this trail should be mapped as a generic, not bicycle ‘route’, tagged 
with for example: horse trekking, mountain biking, hiking. 

 

It may however be desirable to have this trail additionally mapped as a 
‘bicycle route’. For example, so that mountain bike route planning will see 
this route in applications such as  ‘Openmtbmap’.  It should be mapped as an 
additional relationship, to the generic Bicentennial National Trail route, 
without the name ‘Bicentennial National Trail’.

 

A) Generic route? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route .. has 
bicycle, horse and walking ... how would you make it generic? 
Usually the particular activity (bicycle, horse or walking) make a map for that 
activity - that may not identify a 'generic' as being usable by that activity. 
So, as you point out it may be needed to map it for each activity. In which 
case the 'generic' loses its appeal. 

B) Name.. if it is the 'Bicentennial National Trail' (BNT) then it should carry 
that name. 

C) Copyright? Are the BNT happy with OSM mapping this data? I know they want to 
be able to change the route quickly (floods, fires etc.) but I have no idea as 
to their official attitude as to 'their' route being placed into OSM data. 

Similar thoughts on the 'alternate BNT routes'. 

-
Words - dedicated .. as in 'exclusive'? Humm We have 'designated' bicycle 
routes - some of these are exclusive, most are shared. Think that is a poor 
choice of word .. maybe substitute designated for dedicated?

--
I'm happy to map bits along the BNT .. but I map to the sides ... these are 
usefull for escape/access to/from the BNT .. and may be of use to others too.  
I tend to map water along there too .. as they too can be usefull. I do not map 
their campsites .. could lead to over use .. and at least some of them require 
permission (in some cases writen permission!).  I don't know who is maping the 
BNT sections and if they have any permission to do so. I certainly don't have 
permission .. but they I don't identify my bits as part of the BNT. Some of my 
side bits will distract others from the BNT. Some of my side bits were part of 
teh BNT .. but are no longer part of the BNT - it changes over time. 

 

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Re: [Talk-br] highway=living_street or residental in Brazilian cities?

2014-09-19 Thread Roger C. Soares

  
  
Em 18-09-2014 19:28, Gerald Weber
  escreveu:


  

  On 18 September 2014 18:49, Roger C.
Soares rogersoa...@gmail.com
wrote:

  
+1 - I would change those streets to residential.

  



I would not do that without asking the original mapper
  or without having visited the location.  There might be a
  reason for it.


Having many streets mapped as living_street seems a bit
  odd, but who knows, perhaps it is that really way?



Remember: this is a collaborative project. Please
  respect what others have done, especially if you haven't
  been to the location.
  

  


I think a city this type should never have all the streets as
living_street, it is too different from the standard classification
that it should have a note to justify the choice, and not done with
changesets without comments or source, that's why I didn't bother
too much in it being changed. But I do agree that it is always best
to contact the original author and check.


  

  
 On another topic, some time ago we had a discussion
  about not mapping the urban area of the city as
  landuse=residential. I actually deleted a couple,
  especially in the state of São Paulo. Don't know if people
  want to revisit that. Just to let you know Andreas, as in
  the future me or someone else could delete those areas..


I agree not to map all urban areas as simply
  landuse=residential, especially because not all urban
  areas are residential, some are industrial and so on. I
  would prefer leaving landuse=residential for special uses.


But again: I don't think we should delete
   landuse=residential whenever we find it (I certainly do
  not) because it is not wrong either and there might be
  some legitimate reason for its existence which we may not
  be aware of.


Again: this is a collaborative project, please ask
  first before deleting something. 


The only exception to that rule, of course, is if it is
  an obvious error, say a landuse=residential where
  satellite images show only water.
  

  


Most of the areas I removed and didn't contact the author were in
cities that were not mapped or being mapped. At the time, I read
that it was a pattern to trace the area until the city streets were
mapped, and then remove the area. I may have done something wrong
and I apologize for that, I'll be more careful in the future and
contact more. Thanks for the alert.


  

  


cheers


Gerald
  

  
  
  
  
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Re: [Talk-br] Coletar fotos para o Mapillary de byke ou moto

2014-09-19 Thread Vitor George
Boa!

2014-09-18 15:21 GMT-03:00 Edil Queiroz de Araujo edil...@gmail.com:

 Olá pessoal, consegui um tempinho para postar de forma resumida como foi
 montar a segunda versão do suporte que estou usando para meu celular:
 http://projetorgm.com.br/blog/mapeamento/coleta-de-dados/coletar-fotos-de-bike-ou-moto-segundo-prototipo/

 []'s

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 Projeto Monitor Virtual
 http://rede.acessasp.sp.gov.br/projeto/monitor-virtual
 RGM - Região Georreferenciada em Mapas http://projetorgm.com.br/

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[Talk-br] RES: Reunião semanal OSM Brasil

2014-09-19 Thread Reinaldo Neves
Vitor boa trade,

 

Gostaria de participar, por favor me mande os detalhes, e já tomei a liberdade 
de incluir logo e link numa área de parceria e apoios do meu site: 
www.equacao.com.br.

 

Se houver outros links específicos Brasil por favor me informe que farei o 
mesmo.

 

Abraços

 

Reinaldo

 

De: Vitor George [mailto:vitor.geo...@gmail.com] 
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 19 de setembro de 2014 13:14
Para: OSM talk-br
Assunto: [Talk-br] Reunião semanal OSM Brasil

 

Oi pessoal,

 

Queria propor para vocês uma teleconferência semanal para discutir assuntos 
relacionados com a promoção do OpenStreetMap no Brasil. Eu tenho conversado 
regularmente com o Thierry e o Wille, mas seria bem legal se outros 
participassem também para articular melhor as atividades.

 

Estamos fazendo toda quarta-feira às 13h. Quem quiser participar, me avise 
neste thread ou diretamente. Vamos usar o Gotomeeting ou o Google Hangout, 
dependendo do número de participantes.

 

Abraços,

Vitor

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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Reunião semanal OSM Brasil

2014-09-19 Thread Vitor George
Oi Reinaldo, legal que você quer participar.

Na terça-feira vou mandar informações.

Se forem até umas oito pessoas poderemos fazer via Google Hangout, mas se
for mais enviaremos um link para participar via Gotomeeting.

Abraço

2014-09-19 13:24 GMT-03:00 Reinaldo Neves rne...@equacao.com.br:

 Vitor boa trade,



 Gostaria de participar, por favor me mande os detalhes, e já tomei a
 liberdade de incluir logo e link numa área de parceria e apoios do meu
 site: www.equacao.com.br.



 Se houver outros links específicos Brasil por favor me informe que farei o
 mesmo.



 Abraços



 Reinaldo



 *De:* Vitor George [mailto:vitor.geo...@gmail.com]
 *Enviada em:* sexta-feira, 19 de setembro de 2014 13:14
 *Para:* OSM talk-br
 *Assunto:* [Talk-br] Reunião semanal OSM Brasil



 Oi pessoal,



 Queria propor para vocês uma teleconferência semanal para discutir
 assuntos relacionados com a promoção do OpenStreetMap no Brasil. Eu tenho
 conversado regularmente com o Thierry e o Wille, mas seria bem legal se
 outros participassem também para articular melhor as atividades.



 Estamos fazendo toda quarta-feira às 13h. Quem quiser participar, me avise
 neste thread ou diretamente. Vamos usar o Gotomeeting ou o Google Hangout,
 dependendo do número de participantes.



 Abraços,

 Vitor

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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Reunião semanal OSM Brasil

2014-09-19 Thread Aun Johnsen
Vitor, 

Quero participar nestes reuniões quando ha tempo. Os reuniões vai ser feiro por 
VoIP ou tem putro sistema? Que software vai precisar p accessar?

Aun Johnsen
Sent from my iPhone

 On 19. sep. 2014, at 13.35, Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oi Reinaldo, legal que você quer participar.
 
 Na terça-feira vou mandar informações. 
 
 Se forem até umas oito pessoas poderemos fazer via Google Hangout, mas se for 
 mais enviaremos um link para participar via Gotomeeting.
 
 Abraço
 
 2014-09-19 13:24 GMT-03:00 Reinaldo Neves rne...@equacao.com.br:
 Vitor boa trade,
 
  
 
 Gostaria de participar, por favor me mande os detalhes, e já tomei a 
 liberdade de incluir logo e link numa área de parceria e apoios do meu site: 
 www.equacao.com.br.
 
  
 
 Se houver outros links específicos Brasil por favor me informe que farei o 
 mesmo.
 
  
 
 Abraços
 
  
 
 Reinaldo
 
  
 
 De: Vitor George [mailto:vitor.geo...@gmail.com] 
 Enviada em: sexta-feira, 19 de setembro de 2014 13:14
 Para: OSM talk-br
 Assunto: [Talk-br] Reunião semanal OSM Brasil
 
  
 
 Oi pessoal,
 
  
 
 Queria propor para vocês uma teleconferência semanal para discutir assuntos 
 relacionados com a promoção do OpenStreetMap no Brasil. Eu tenho conversado 
 regularmente com o Thierry e o Wille, mas seria bem legal se outros 
 participassem também para articular melhor as atividades.
 
  
 
 Estamos fazendo toda quarta-feira às 13h. Quem quiser participar, me avise 
 neste thread ou diretamente. Vamos usar o Gotomeeting ou o Google Hangout, 
 dependendo do número de participantes.
 
  
 
 Abraços,
 
 Vitor
 
 
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Re: [Talk-br] OpenStreetMap Brasil no Condatos

2014-09-19 Thread Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Poderia mencionar a conveniência da comunidade gerenciar pendências e
mapear a partir de Mapillary e Field Papers. Uma instância do Tasking
Manager 2 dá impulso a várias iniciativas de mapeamento e ajuda
indispensavelmente a gerenciar os esforços, enquanto os projetos de
software que importam tem seus forks e issues no Github. Essas coisas unem
a comunidade no que ela pode fazer e faz. São ferramentas que podem vir a
se estabelecer entre as principais do cotidiano de um mapeador. É como
vejo. Gradualmente elas vão sendo aperfeiçoadas e integradas.

Alexandre Magno

Em 19 de setembro de 2014 13:49, Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com
escreveu:

 Oi pessoal,

 Agora no começo do mês vai ter o Condatos, uma conferência sobre dados
 abertos no México. Ele vai ter um evento paralelo no dia 2 de outubro sobre
 mapas abertos:

 http://condatos.org/mapa.html

 Vou lá dar uma oficina sobre o JEO e participar de um painel que vai
 discutir os desafios de promover o OpenStreetMap na América Latina.

 Pretendo falar sobre a iniciativa de criar um capítulo local, e também
 sobre as atividades que desenvolvemos para fortalecer a comunidade. Vou
 comentar sobre o projeto Brasil 250 Cidades
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Brazil/Brasil_250_Cidades,
 o trabalho com as traduções, o Mapas Livres, e gostaria de saber o que
 vocês também acham importante falar.

 Abraço,
 Vitor

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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Reunião semanal OSM Brasil

2014-09-19 Thread Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Pelo que entendi, há a possibilidade de contratarem os serviço
br.gotomeeting.com.

Alexandre Magno

Em 19 de setembro de 2014 13:52, Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org
escreveu:

 Vitor,

 Quero participar nestes reuniões quando ha tempo. Os reuniões vai ser
 feiro por VoIP ou tem putro sistema? Que software vai precisar p accessar?

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Re: [Talk-br] OpenStreetMap Brasil no Condatos

2014-09-19 Thread Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Pra quem quer saber o que é o JEO: oeco.github.io/jeo

Em 19 de setembro de 2014 13:49, Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com
escreveu:


 http://condatos.org/mapa.html

 Vou lá dar uma oficina sobre o JEO e participar de um painel que vai
 discutir os desafios de promover o OpenStreetMap na América Latina.

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Re: [Talk-br] OpenStreetMap Brasil no Condatos

2014-09-19 Thread wille
Acho que pode falar de como a comunidade brasileira vem se organizando, 
as ações de divulgação, as mapatonas, os usuários que fazem um grande 
trabalho de revisar as modificações feitas pelos outros usuários.




Em 2014-09-19 13:49, Vitor George escreveu:

Oi pessoal,

Agora no começo do mês vai ter o Condatos, uma conferência sobre
dados abertos no México. Ele vai ter um evento paralelo no dia 2 de
outubro sobre mapas abertos:

http://condatos.org/mapa.html [1]

Vou lá dar uma oficina sobre o JEO e participar de um painel que vai
discutir os desafios de promover o OpenStreetMap na América Latina.

Pretendo falar sobre a iniciativa de criar um capítulo local, e
também sobre as atividades que desenvolvemos para fortalecer a
comunidade. Vou comentar sobre o projeto Brasil 250 Cidades [2], o
trabalho com as traduções, o Mapas Livres, e gostaria de saber o que
vocês também acham importante falar.

Abraço,
Vitor

Links:
--
[1] http://condatos.org/mapa.html
[2] 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Brazil/Brasil_250_Cidades


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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Reunião semanal OSM Brasil

2014-09-19 Thread Márcio Vinícius Pinheiro
Sugestão: para até 8 participantes, há o https://appear.in não precisa
instalar nada nem se registrar em nada, basta ter um navegador atualizado.

- - - ·
Atenciosamente,

Márcio Vinícius Pinheiro
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Em 19 de setembro de 2014 14:14, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
alexandre@gmail.com escreveu:

 Pelo que entendi, há a possibilidade de contratarem os serviço
 br.gotomeeting.com.

 Alexandre Magno

 Em 19 de setembro de 2014 13:52, Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org
 escreveu:

 Vitor,

 Quero participar nestes reuniões quando ha tempo. Os reuniões vai ser
 feiro por VoIP ou tem putro sistema? Que software vai precisar p accessar?



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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Reunião semanal OSM Brasil

2014-09-19 Thread Lists
Realmente Skype dar para fazer teleconferencias bem, e também eu pode entra 
mesmo se no rua (skype no celular), não sei quantos participantes no limite, 
fiz com 3 mas com certeza dar p mais

Aun Johnsen

 On Sep 19, 2014, at 21:25, Márcio Vinícius Pinheiro 
 marcioviniciu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sugestão: para até 8 participantes, há o https://appear.in 
 https://appear.in/ não precisa instalar nada nem se registrar em nada, 
 basta ter um navegador atualizado.
 
 - - - ·
 Atenciosamente,
 
 Márcio Vinícius Pinheiro
 http://about.me/Doideira http://about.me/Doideira
  http://pt.gravatar.com/marciovinicius
 Em 19 de setembro de 2014 14:14, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
 alexandre@gmail.com mailto:alexandre@gmail.com escreveu:
 Pelo que entendi, há a possibilidade de contratarem os serviço 
 br.gotomeeting.com http://br.gotomeeting.com/.
 
 Alexandre Magno
 
 Em 19 de setembro de 2014 13:52, Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org 
 mailto:li...@gimnechiske.org escreveu:
 Vitor, 
 
 Quero participar nestes reuniões quando ha tempo. Os reuniões vai ser feiro 
 por VoIP ou tem putro sistema? Que software vai precisar p accessar?
 
 
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[Talk-de] Geocoder für Kreuzungen

2014-09-19 Thread Florian Lohoff

Hi,
gibt es einen Geocoder der Kreuzungen kann ? Ich weiss das Nominatim
das nicht kann, deshalb hätte ich mir für diesen Anwendungsfall schnell was
mit Postgis gestrickt. (Batch geocoding von Unfallpunkten)

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Re: [Talk-it] Cercasi, qualcuno che può rappresentare OSM ad un convegno a Roma il 25. Settembre

2014-09-19 Thread Luca Delucchi
2014-09-17 13:36 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
 Sto scrivendo per Simone Cortesi, che al momento non può.

 Stiamo cercando una persona interessata ad rappresentare OSM alla Conferenza
 AMFM 2014 che si terrà a Roma il 25 Settembre.


Io andrò in rappresentanza di GFOSS.it e mi farebbe piacere parlare
anche a nome di OSM.


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Re: [Talk-it] Cercasi, qualcuno che può rappresentare OSM ad un convegno a Roma il 25. Settembre

2014-09-19 Thread Simone Cortesi
2014-09-19 8:49 GMT+02:00 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com:
 Stiamo cercando una persona interessata ad rappresentare OSM alla Conferenza
 AMFM 2014 che si terrà a Roma il 25 Settembre.


 Io andrò in rappresentanza di GFOSS.it e mi farebbe piacere parlare
 anche a nome di OSM.

Grazie a Martin per aver scritto a nome mio.

Ottimo Luca.

vorrei metterti in contatto con Andrea Deiana per l'organizzazione.

Grazie mille!

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Re: [Talk-it] Cercasi, qualcuno che può rappresentare OSM ad un convegno a Roma il 25. Settembre

2014-09-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-09-19 8:49 GMT+02:00 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com:

 Io andrò in rappresentanza di GFOSS.it e mi farebbe piacere parlare
 anche a nome di OSM.



grazie Luca!

Domanda: qualcuno ha letto il whitepaper e ha dei commenti in merito?
L'indirizzo è qui:
http://www.amfm.it/images/pdf/140615_annuncio/WP_it_0901.pdf

ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] Cercasi, qualcuno che può rappresentare OSM ad un convegno a Roma il 25. Settembre

2014-09-19 Thread Luca Delucchi
2014-09-19 9:57 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:

 Domanda: qualcuno ha letto il whitepaper e ha dei commenti in merito?
 L'indirizzo è qui:
 http://www.amfm.it/images/pdf/140615_annuncio/WP_it_0901.pdf


non ancora, ma lo leggerò (forse questo weekend)

 ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] Cercasi, qualcuno che può rappresentare OSM ad un convegno a Roma il 25. Settembre

2014-09-19 Thread Fabri
Io l'ho letto, mi sembra interessante, anche se un po generico, non fa 
altro che sottolineare l'importanza della geo-referenziazione in 
qualsiasi campo. Parla poco di osm e tratta gli Open Data come una manna 
dal cielo, ma noi sappiamo che non è sempre rose e fiori, anzi spesso i 
dati da importare sono molto imprecisi.


A proposito, visto che c'è un rappresentante di Istat, possiamo farlo 
vergognare del fatto che, a differenza della Danimarca, hanno rilasciato 
i civici senza coordinate?


Comunque, imho, come possiamo rendere la partecipazione alla conferenza 
proficua per osm? Lo pubbliciziamo come scelta ideale per la PA, in 
quanto free e open? facile da aggiornare come database di POIs? Bisogna 
parlare anche di licenze e del fatto di preferire rilascio di dati il 
più open possibile magari in PD?

grazie Luca!

Domanda: qualcuno ha letto il whitepaper e ha dei commenti in merito? 
L'indirizzo è qui: 
http://www.amfm.it/images/pdf/140615_annuncio/WP_it_0901.pdf


ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] OSMit 2014 a Matera

2014-09-19 Thread Leonardo

Ciao,

volevo chiedere se qualcuno fosse così gentile da registrare le varie 
sessioni di OSMit per coloro che non potranno intervenire all'evento e 
magari caricarle da qualche parte per la visione successiva.


Grazie!

Leonardo

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMit 2014 a Matera

2014-09-19 Thread John Doe
Mi accodo alla richiesta.
Il giorno 19/set/2014 14:35, Leonardo kinetocor...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 Ciao,

 volevo chiedere se qualcuno fosse così gentile da registrare le varie
 sessioni di OSMit per coloro che non potranno intervenire all'evento e
 magari caricarle da qualche parte per la visione successiva.

 Grazie!

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappa eventi condivisi

2014-09-19 Thread Bertalan Iván
Il giorno 17 settembre 2014 @ 09:00:10, Francesco Piero Paolicelli 
(pierso...@gmail.com) ha scritto:
[...]
In pratica le associazioni culturali e i privati inseriscono gli eventi da loro 
gestiti in autonomia su un form di google. Il csv cosi generato alimenta una 
mappa su layer osm mentre uno script alimenta un calendario google.  
Ora, dopo essere arrivati a 120 eventi un 40 giorni, mi chiedono di filtrare la 
mappa per giorno/mese/anno con un menù a tendina o similare.
[…]

Leggendo le api di google potrei anche interrogare il csv facendo una query 
dinamica sulla colonna data inizio, ma ho pensato che quando questo giocattolo 
avrà migliaia di dati, sarà pesantino.

A monte, durante l’inserimento, potrebbero scegliere una chiave di 
classificazione. Oppure puoi passare dal lato oscuro della forza e inserire i 
dati in un db, on the fly. :-)

Se poi devi arrivare a fare un cms perché oltre la gestione del luogo e tempo 
vorranno anche la contestualizzazione dei contenuti… passa da me a prendere un 
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Re: [Talk-it] Mappa eventi condivisi

2014-09-19 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
2014-09-17 9:43 GMT+02:00 Ida Leone ida.le...@gmail.com:
 Nel programma di OSMIT14 la domenica mattina è generalmente riservato al
 mapping party. Di cui Matera non ha bisogno, perchè è già ben mappata.

in realtà c'è sempre qualcosa da mappare:
numeri civici, cassette delle lettere, dimensioni, altezze e colori
degli edifici, lampioni e loro potenza, orari dei negozi 

 Quindi io pensavo ad una mattinata didattica per insegnare i rudimenti del
 mapping a giovani interessati. Ma nulla esclude che possiamo invece
 riservarla all'hackaton di cui parli, o magari fare ambedue le cose :)

Purtroppo domenica devo partire :(

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappa eventi condivisi

2014-09-19 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
 - non c'è un cassonnetto del reciclaggio
 - vedo pochissimi numeri civici
 - ci sono alcune cose molto strano tipo questo [0]


 [0] http://osm.org/go/xcvxvwePJ

intendi quel fonto numero di semafori qui?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/232361461
... interessante ... credo sia meglio contattare l'autore

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappa eventi condivisi

2014-09-19 Thread Francesca Valentina
Concordo,
Mai rinunciare ai mapping party che inoltre sono uno dei miglior modi per
iniziare con osm.

Francesca
Il 19/Set/2014 15:40 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto:

  - non c'è un cassonnetto del reciclaggio
  - vedo pochissimi numeri civici
  - ci sono alcune cose molto strano tipo questo [0]
 
 
  [0] http://osm.org/go/xcvxvwePJ

 intendi quel fonto numero di semafori qui?
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/232361461
 ... interessante ... credo sia meglio contattare l'autore

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappa eventi condivisi

2014-09-19 Thread Francesco Piero Paolicelli
E' un pacheggio multipiano coperto e sopra anfiteatro per piccoli spettacoli :)

Inviato da iPhone

 Il giorno 19/set/2014, alle ore 15:39, Maurizio Napolitano 
 napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 
 intendi quel fonto numero di semafori qui?
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/232361461
 ... interessante ... credo sia meglio contattare l'autore

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappa eventi condivisi

2014-09-19 Thread Francesco Piero Paolicelli

È destino nom vederci napo :-)
Vengo in trentino e non ci becchiamo, vieni a matera e idem.
Vuol dire che ci vediamo in campo neutro :-)
Inviato da iPhone

 Il giorno 19/set/2014, alle ore 15:38, Maurizio Napolitano 
 napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 
 Purtroppo domenica devo partire :(

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMit 2014 a Matera

2014-09-19 Thread Ida Leone
Non credo di potervi accontentare.
La registrazione che richiedete è costosa (telecamera fissa, operatore,
etc.), e non rientra nel budget.

Mi spiace!

Il giorno 19 settembre 2014 14:48, John Doe theguest...@gmail.com ha
scritto:

 Mi accodo alla richiesta.
 Il giorno 19/set/2014 14:35, Leonardo kinetocor...@gmail.com ha
 scritto:

 Ciao,

 volevo chiedere se qualcuno fosse così gentile da registrare le varie
 sessioni di OSMit per coloro che non potranno intervenire all'evento e
 magari caricarle da qualche parte per la visione successiva.

 Grazie!

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMit 2014 a Matera

2014-09-19 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
2014-09-19 16:35 GMT+02:00 Ida Leone ida.le...@gmail.com:
 Non credo di potervi accontentare.
 La registrazione che richiedete è costosa (telecamera fissa, operatore,
 etc.), e non rientra nel budget.

Sono certo che qualche smartphone o tablet o altro sarà pronto a
registrare l'evento :)

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMit 2014 a Matera

2014-09-19 Thread sabas88
Se c'è una connessione buona basterebbe un computer ed una webcam HD e ci
arrangiamo con Livestream o simili?

Stefano


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 Non credo di potervi accontentare.
 La registrazione che richiedete è costosa (telecamera fissa, operatore,
 etc.), e non rientra nel budget.

 Mi spiace!

 Il giorno 19 settembre 2014 14:48, John Doe theguest...@gmail.com ha
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 Mi accodo alla richiesta.
 Il giorno 19/set/2014 14:35, Leonardo kinetocor...@gmail.com ha
 scritto:

 Ciao,

 volevo chiedere se qualcuno fosse così gentile da registrare le varie
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 magari caricarle da qualche parte per la visione successiva.

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMit 2014 a Matera

2014-09-19 Thread Cristian Consonni
Il 19 settembre 2014 16:39, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 2014-09-19 16:35 GMT+02:00 Ida Leone ida.le...@gmail.com:
 Non credo di potervi accontentare.
 La registrazione che richiedete è costosa (telecamera fissa, operatore,
 etc.), e non rientra nel budget.

 Sono certo che qualche smartphone o tablet o altro sarà pronto a
 registrare l'evento :)

(a meno che qualche anima pia porti telecamera e treppiede e voglia farlo)

Ciao,

C

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMit 2014 a Matera

2014-09-19 Thread Ida Leone
Non il mio.
Si tratta di registrare per 9 ore, io non ce la faccio :)
Il 19/Set/2014 16:40 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 2014-09-19 16:35 GMT+02:00 Ida Leone ida.le...@gmail.com:
  Non credo di potervi accontentare.
  La registrazione che richiedete è costosa (telecamera fissa, operatore,
  etc.), e non rientra nel budget.

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMit 2014 a Matera

2014-09-19 Thread Alessandro

Il 19/09/2014 16:43, sabas88 ha scritto:

Se c'è una connessione buona basterebbe un computer ed una webcam HD e
ci arrangiamo con Livestream o simili?



Sì dai, non ci interessa uno streaming in Ultra HD4K, basta anche un 
magnetofono della Geloso.


Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT (che non può venire)

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[Talk-it] statale a Cavalese

2014-09-19 Thread beppebo...@libero.it
In quel di Cavalese x questioni turistiche nel periodo estivo rendono la 
statale a senso unico come ho mappato... nel corso dell anno torna a doppio 
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Re: [Talk-it] statale a Cavalese

2014-09-19 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Il giorno ven, 19/09/2014 alle 21.06 +0200, beppebo...@libero.it ha
scritto:

 In quel di Cavalese x questioni turistiche nel periodo estivo rendono
 la statale a senso unico come ho mappato... nel corso dell anno torna
 a doppio senso... Come si può mappare ,senza dover ogni estate
 inserire e poi togliere il senso unico, in modo definitivo x indicare
 che dal 21 giugno al 22 settembre la strada è oneway?


direi cosi:

oneway:conditional=yes @ (Jun 21-Sep 22)



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Re: [Talk-it] statale a Cavalese

2014-09-19 Thread Cristian Consonni
Il 19 settembre 2014 19:24, Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
lomastr...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 Il giorno ven, 19/09/2014 alle 21.06 +0200, beppebo...@libero.it ha scritto:

 In quel di Cavalese x questioni turistiche nel periodo estivo rendono la
 statale a senso unico come ho mappato... nel corso dell anno torna a doppio
 senso... Come si può mappare ,senza dover ogni estate inserire e poi
 togliere il senso unico, in modo definitivo x indicare che dal 21 giugno al
 22 settembre la strada è oneway?


 direi cosi:

 oneway:conditional=yes @ (Jun 21-Sep 22)

So che non bisognerebbe mappare per il rendering o per le altre
applicazioni, ma questo formato è starndard? È riconosciuto dai
software di routing?

Cristian

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Re: [Talk-it] statale a Cavalese

2014-09-19 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Il giorno ven, 19/09/2014 alle 21.28 +0200, Cristian Consonni ha
scritto:

 Il 19 settembre 2014 19:24, Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
 lomastr...@gmail.com ha scritto:
  Il giorno ven, 19/09/2014 alle 21.06 +0200, beppebo...@libero.it ha scritto:
 
  In quel di Cavalese x questioni turistiche nel periodo estivo rendono la
  statale a senso unico come ho mappato... nel corso dell anno torna a doppio
  senso... Come si può mappare ,senza dover ogni estate inserire e poi
  togliere il senso unico, in modo definitivo x indicare che dal 21 giugno al
  22 settembre la strada è oneway?
 
 
  direi cosi:
 
  oneway:conditional=yes @ (Jun 21-Sep 22)
 
 So che non bisognerebbe mappare per il rendering o per le altre
 applicazioni, ma questo formato è starndard? È riconosciuto dai
 software di routing?
 
 Cristian


E' standard:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions
Il formato orario è definito meglio qui:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours
C'è questo esempio:
Consecutive monthdays open separated by - · (e.g.,  Dec 20-26) or
(e.g.,  Dec 20-Jan 06)

Sulla seconda domanda sono meno sicuro :)
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Re: [Talk-it] Mappa eventi condivisi

2014-09-19 Thread Francesco Piero Paolicelli
Grazie a tutti.
Nel frattempo Guenter Richter ha fatto la mappa degli eventi, filtrabile per 
data e contenuti:

http://public.ixmaps.com.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/maptune2/BasilicataEventi_mapstraction_fullscreen.html

ok penso di aver risolto.
Piero

Il giorno 19/set/2014, alle ore 15:54, Francesca Valentina 
coretodes...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 Concordo,
 Mai rinunciare ai mapping party che inoltre sono uno dei miglior modi per 
 iniziare con osm.
 
 Francesca
 
 Il 19/Set/2014 15:40 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto:
  - non c'è un cassonnetto del reciclaggio
  - vedo pochissimi numeri civici
  - ci sono alcune cose molto strano tipo questo [0]
 
 
  [0] http://osm.org/go/xcvxvwePJ
 
 intendi quel fonto numero di semafori qui?
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/232361461
 ... interessante ... credo sia meglio contattare l'autore
 
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Re: [Talk-co] Posibilidad de reunión con UNGRD - OSM - OCHA ¿quien va?

2014-09-19 Thread hyan...@gmail.com
 2014-09-17 10:39 GMT-05:00 Luis Hernando Aguilar aguil...@un.org:

 Hola de nuevo.

 Estoy preparando esta comunicación para presentarle OSM a la UNGRD. Por
 favor 1) ¿cuantos voluntarios OSM hay en Colombia? y 2) Revisen esta nota,
 ¿está bien lo que se propone? ¿que otras cosas debemos tener en cuenta?

 *En la presente lista hay al momento 245 suscriptores que se pueden
 considerar la comunidad Colombiana*

 Un abrazo


Hola, con el objeto de facilitar la edición colaborativa del documento lo
he subido a Google Drive

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CVH7Ws0HOJF9T6bicNRFr6Umw09hiVUhRCmo340N2lE/edit?usp=sharing
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[Talk-co] Quien tiene algo adelantado de Geocodigo inverso para Bogotá

2014-09-19 Thread Alejandro Plata
Saludos a todos los miembros del grupo.

Quisiera saber si alguien ha hecho adelantos en openstreetmap en materia de
geocodigo inverso para Bogotá, y si alguien sabe como funciona el sistema
de coordenadas de mapacallejero?

Gracias de antemano por culaquier información que me puedan dar.
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Saludos Cordiales

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[Talk-ca] Bing updated imagery in Windsor, Ontario

2014-09-19 Thread James Mast
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up in anybody wanted to do a massive 
cleanup of the new 401 construction in that area.  According to JOSM, the 
imagery Bing now has is about 3 months old taken between 05/31/14 and 06/15/14.

So, if anybody feels like having some fun, have at it. ;)

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Re: [Talk-ca] Bing updated imagery in Windsor, Ontario

2014-09-19 Thread Bruno Remy
The same here arround Québec City (QC, CA) !!
According to JOSM, the imagery Bing is about 10 months.



2014-09-19 7:39 GMT-04:00 James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com:

 Just wanted to give you guys a heads up in anybody wanted to do a massive
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 06/15/14.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Bing updated imagery in Windsor, Ontario

2014-09-19 Thread Pierre Béland
Bonjour Bruno,

quel outil pour vérifier date de production des images d'une zone?

 
Pierre 




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The same here arround Québec City (QC, CA) !!
According to JOSM, the imagery Bing is about 10 months.





2014-09-19 7:39 GMT-04:00 James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com:




Just wanted to give you guys a heads up in anybody wanted to do a massive 
cleanup of the new 401 construction in that area.  According to JOSM, the 
imagery Bing now has is about 3 months old taken between 05/31/14 and 06/15/14.

So, if anybody feels like having some fun, have at it. ;)

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Re: [Talk-ca] Bing updated imagery in Windsor, Ontario

2014-09-19 Thread Bruno Remy
Bonjour Pierre,

C'est intégré dans JOSM (sans plug-in supplémentaire ... sauf erreur de ma
part)
1-selectionner la couche Bing Imagery en premier plan
2-Juste à faire un clic-droit pour afficher le menu contextuel: une des
options propose l'affichage des informations de la tuile en cours.
3-Le timestamp de chaque tuile apparait en sur-couche en rouge.

---

Il existe un outil d'information web, mais non fiable car ses données ne
semblent pas être correctement mises à jour:
Bing Aerial Imagery Analyzer for OpenStreetMap
http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=49.3935298445362lon=10.976469421386724zoom=11

Bruno

2014-09-19 9:28 GMT-04:00 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr:

 Bonjour Bruno,

 quel outil pour vérifier date de production des images d'une zone?

 Pierre

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 The same here arround Québec City (QC, CA) !!
 According to JOSM, the imagery Bing is about 10 months.



 2014-09-19 7:39 GMT-04:00 James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com:



 Just wanted to give you guys a heads up in anybody wanted to do a massive
 cleanup of the new 401 construction in that area.  According to JOSM, the
 imagery Bing now has is about 3 months old taken between 05/31/14 and
 06/15/14.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Bing updated imagery in Windsor, Ontario

2014-09-19 Thread Daniel Begin
Merci pour l’information!

 

From: Bruno Remy [mailto:bremy.qc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: September-19-14 09:42
To: Pierre Béland
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bing updated imagery in Windsor, Ontario

 

Bonjour Pierre,

C'est intégré dans JOSM (sans plug-in supplémentaire ... sauf erreur de ma 
part)

1-selectionner la couche Bing Imagery en premier plan
2-Juste à faire un clic-droit pour afficher le menu contextuel: une des options 
propose l'affichage des informations de la tuile en cours.

3-Le timestamp de chaque tuile apparait en sur-couche en rouge.


---

Il existe un outil d'information web, mais non fiable car ses données ne 
semblent pas être correctement mises à jour:
Bing Aerial Imagery Analyzer for OpenStreetMap
http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=49.3935298445362 
http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=49.3935298445362lon=10.976469421386724zoom=11
 lon=10.976469421386724zoom=11

Bruno

 

2014-09-19 9:28 GMT-04:00 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr:

Bonjour Bruno,

 

quel outil pour vérifier date de production des images d'une zone?

 

Pierre 

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Cc : talk-ca@openstreetmap.org talk-ca@openstreetmap.org 
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Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Bing updated imagery in Windsor, Ontario

 

The same here arround Québec City (QC, CA) !!
According to JOSM, the imagery Bing is about 10 months.



 

2014-09-19 7:39 GMT-04:00 James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com:

 

Just wanted to give you guys a heads up in anybody wanted to do a massive 
cleanup of the new 401 construction in that area.  According to JOSM, the 
imagery Bing now has is about 3 months old taken between 05/31/14 and 06/15/14.

So, if anybody feels like having some fun, have at it. ;)

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Re: [Talk-ca] Bing updated imagery in Windsor, Ontario

2014-09-19 Thread Pierre Béland
Cela ne s'affiche pas pour moi dans JOSM. Mais j'ai retrouvé l'application qui 
le permet. De fait, la page wiki Bing Imagery Analyzer for OSM indique a deux 
sites Bing Analyzer. Et celui ci-dessous fournit la date de mise-a-jour des 
tuiles. On voit une image de 2012 de grande qualité au Mont Mégantic. Et dans 
la région autour de Montréal je ne retrouves toujours que du Mars-2001 -- 
Juillet 2004.

http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=45.455744266624194lon=-71.15181999373625zoom=18
 

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Merci pour l’information!
 
From:Bruno Remy [mailto:bremy.qc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: September-19-14 09:42
To: Pierre Béland
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bing updated imagery in Windsor, Ontario
 
Bonjour Pierre,
C'est intégré dans JOSM (sans plug-in supplémentaire ... sauf erreur de ma 
part)
1-selectionner la couche Bing Imagery en premier plan
2-Juste à faire un clic-droit pour afficher le menu contextuel: une des options 
propose l'affichage des informations de la tuile en cours.
3-Le timestamp de chaque tuile apparait en sur-couche en rouge.

---
Il existe un outil d'information web, mais non fiable car ses données ne 
semblent pas être correctement mises à jour:
Bing Aerial Imagery Analyzer for OpenStreetMap
http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=49.3935298445362lon=10.976469421386724zoom=11
Bruno
 
2014-09-19 9:28 GMT-04:00 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr:
Bonjour Bruno,
 
quel outil pour vérifier date de production des images d'une zone?
 
Pierre 



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The same here arround Québec City (QC, CA) !!
According to JOSM, the imagery Bing is about 10 months.


 
2014-09-19 7:39 GMT-04:00 James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com:
 
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up in anybody wanted to do a massive 
cleanup of the new 401 construction in that area.  According to JOSM, the 
imagery Bing now has is about 3 months old taken between 05/31/14 and 06/15/14.

So, if anybody feels like having some fun, have at it. ;)

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Re: [Talk-cz] Problemy s ulicema a budovama

2014-09-19 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-09-18, 13:13 GMT, Marián Kyral wrote:
 No pokud zadám adresu ručně, tak tak asi nedám source 
 mvcr:adresa ne?

Aha, nepochopil jsem význam slova a :( Ach jo.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Atribut ref= na rozcestnících v OSM - zachovejte prosím

2014-09-19 Thread Pavel Kwiecien
Ahoj, asi jsem technicky s fotákem trochu pozadu. Fotografie rozcestníků mám
uloženy v adresářích, jméno adresáře je složeno z jméno rozcestníku a gps 
souřadnice např.: Hořejší Vrchlabí 50.6465028, 15.6073389
Potřeboval bych ještě dopracovat ještě ostatní fotky, ale buď se mi nechce 
nebo nemám čas.

Zdraví Pavel Kwiecien


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Pokud mate nekdo hodne rozcestniku s gps informacemi v exif, tak mi je 
poslete a ja je pridam na openstreetmap.cz(http://openstreetmap.cz) (vsechny
naraz). Kdyby nekdo chtel nejakou integraci, tak udelam geojson nebo georss,
staci rict. Zatim chybela motivace.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Atribut ref= na rozcestnících v OSM - zachovejte prosím

2014-09-19 Thread Marián Kyral
To myslím nebude problém. Otázka jednoduchého scriptu, který to přes 
exiftool nacpe do exifu.

Marián


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Ahoj, asi jsem technicky s fotákem trochu pozadu. Fotografie rozcestníků mám
uloženy v adresářích, jméno adresáře je složeno z jméno rozcestníku a gps 
souřadnice např.: Hořejší Vrchlabí 50.6465028, 15.6073389
Potřeboval bych ještě dopracovat ještě ostatní fotky, ale buď se mi nechce 
nebo nemám čas.

Zdraví Pavel Kwiecien


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Pokud mate nekdo hodne rozcestniku s gps informacemi v exif, tak mi je 
poslete a ja je pridam na openstreetmap.cz(http://openstreetmap.cz) (vsechny
naraz). Kdyby nekdo chtel nejakou integraci, tak udelam geojson nebo georss,
staci rict. Zatim chybela motivace.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Atribut ref= na rozcestnících v OSM - zachovejte prosím

2014-09-19 Thread Pavel Kwiecien
Ahoj, no nějak to vymyslím. Podle internetu bych měl používat tento příkaz:

exiftool -GPSLatitude=50.6465028 -GPSLongitude=15.6073389 obrázek.jpg

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To myslím nebude problém. Otázka jednoduchého scriptu, který to přes 
exiftool nacpe do exifu.

Marián


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Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Atribut ref= na rozcestnících v OSM - zachovejte 
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Ahoj, asi jsem technicky s fotákem trochu pozadu. Fotografie rozcestníků mám
uloženy v adresářích, jméno adresáře je složeno z jméno rozcestníku a gps 
souřadnice např.: Hořejší Vrchlabí 50.6465028, 15.6073389
Potřeboval bych ještě dopracovat ještě ostatní fotky, ale buď se mi nechce 
nebo nemám čas.

Zdraví Pavel Kwiecien


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Datum: 18. 9. 2014 19:37:04
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Atribut ref= na rozcestnících v OSM - zachovejte 
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Pokud mate nekdo hodne rozcestniku s gps informacemi v exif, tak mi je 
poslete a ja je pridam na openstreetmap.cz(http://openstreetmap.cz) (vsechny
naraz). Kdyby nekdo chtel nejakou integraci, tak udelam geojson nebo georss,
staci rict. Zatim chybela motivace.

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[OSM-talk-fr] utilisation d'osrm pour signaler un itinéraire alternatif

2014-09-19 Thread didier2020
j'ai réussi a caser un itinéraire alternatif en utilisant osrm :
http://www.sytadin.fr/sys/alert_reseau.jsp.html#379962

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Calendrier des rencontres

2014-09-19 Thread Christian Quest
Il n'y a pas de formulaire actuellement.

Il me semble que j'ai paramétré Drupal pour permettre de créer un contenu
(un évènement dans ce cas) et il suffit qu'un administrateur du site le
valide pour publication. Indique-moi quel est ton compte sur
openstreetmap.fr


Le 18 septembre 2014 22:26, Gwen ping...@no-log.org a écrit :

 bonjour

 suite à la mise en ligne de la carte des rencontres des groupes locaux
 (Merci Frédéric !), je me demandais quelle était la procédure pour
 annoncer un événement dans le calendrier dispo sur opentreetmap.fr.

 A défaut de formulaire de saisie, à qui peut-on envoyer les infos ?

 d'avance merci

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] utilisation d'osrm pour signaler un itinéraire alternatif

2014-09-19 Thread Christian Quest
\o/ !!

Doucement on grignote, on grignote ;)


2014-09-19 13:47 GMT+02:00 didier2...@free.fr:

 j'ai réussi a caser un itinéraire alternatif en utilisant osrm :
 http://www.sytadin.fr/sys/alert_reseau.jsp.html#379962

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[OSM-talk-fr] pendant qu'on parle d'OSRM

2014-09-19 Thread Pierre-Yves Berrard
Quelqu'un d'autre a-t-il remarqué qu'OSRM semble limiter la vitesse à
90km/h sur autoroute ?
osrm.at/9vt
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] pendant qu'on parle d'OSRM

2014-09-19 Thread Frédéric Rodrigo

C'est bien ce qu'il y a dans la configuration :
https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/master/profiles/car.lua

speed_profile = {
[motorway] = 90,
[motorway_link] = 75,
[trunk] = 85,
[trunk_link] = 70,
[primary] = 65,
[primary_link] = 60,
[secondary] = 55,
[secondary_link] = 50,
[tertiary] = 40,
[tertiary_link] = 30,
[unclassified] = 25,
[residential] = 25,
[living_street] = 10,
[service] = 15,
-- [track] = 5,
[ferry] = 5,
[shuttle_train] = 10,
[default] = 10

Le 19/09/2014 14:33, Pierre-Yves Berrard a écrit :

Quelqu'un d'autre a-t-il remarqué qu'OSRM semble limiter la vitesse à
90km/h sur autoroute ?
osrm.at/9vt http://osrm.at/9vt


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[OSM-talk-fr] Re : Re: pendant qu'on parle d'OSRM

2014-09-19 Thread didier2020
un peu plus bas dans le code .lua

 if way.speed == -1 then
local highway_speed = speed_profile[highway]
local max_speed = parse_maxspeed( way.tags:Find(maxspeed) )
-- Set the avg speed on the way if it is accessible by road class
if highway_speed then
if max_speed  highway_speed then
 way.speed = max_speed


a prioris, il tient compte des vitesses saisie sur les ways 
puis y applique un coef de 0.8 (truc pour simuler la vitesse reélle et non pas 
la vitesse max)

Bref, les temps de trajets en Ile de France sont totalement faux aux heures de 
pointes 


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Envoyé: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:39:08 +0200 (CEST)
Objet: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] pendant qu'on parle d'OSRM

C'est bien ce qu'il y a dans la configuration :
https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/master/profiles/car.lua

speed_profile = {
[motorway] = 90,
[motorway_link] = 75,
[trunk] = 85,
[trunk_link] = 70,
[primary] = 65,
[primary_link] = 60,
[secondary] = 55,
[secondary_link] = 50,
[tertiary] = 40,
[tertiary_link] = 30,
[unclassified] = 25,
[residential] = 25,
[living_street] = 10,
[service] = 15,
-- [track] = 5,
[ferry] = 5,
[shuttle_train] = 10,
[default] = 10

Le 19/09/2014 14:33, Pierre-Yves Berrard a écrit :
 Quelqu'un d'autre a-t-il remarqué qu'OSRM semble limiter la vitesse à
 90km/h sur autoroute ?
 osrm.at/9vt http://osrm.at/9vt


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] pendant qu'on parle d'OSRM

2014-09-19 Thread Pierre-Yves Berrard
Ok, merci pour vos réponses.

PY

Le 19 septembre 2014 15:25, didier2...@free.fr a écrit :

 un peu plus bas dans le code .lua
 
  if way.speed == -1 then
 local highway_speed = speed_profile[highway]
 local max_speed = parse_maxspeed( way.tags:Find(maxspeed) )
 -- Set the avg speed on the way if it is accessible by road class
 if highway_speed then
 if max_speed  highway_speed then
  way.speed = max_speed
 

 a prioris, il tient compte des vitesses saisie sur les ways
 puis y applique un coef de 0.8 (truc pour simuler la vitesse reélle et non
 pas la vitesse max)

 Bref, les temps de trajets en Ile de France sont totalement faux aux
 heures de pointes


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 De: Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodr...@gmail.com
 À: Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org
 Envoyé: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:39:08 +0200 (CEST)
 Objet: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] pendant qu'on parle d'OSRM

 C'est bien ce qu'il y a dans la configuration :
 https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/master/profiles/car.lua

 speed_profile = {
 [motorway] = 90,
 [motorway_link] = 75,
 [trunk] = 85,
 [trunk_link] = 70,
 [primary] = 65,
 [primary_link] = 60,
 [secondary] = 55,
 [secondary_link] = 50,
 [tertiary] = 40,
 [tertiary_link] = 30,
 [unclassified] = 25,
 [residential] = 25,
 [living_street] = 10,
 [service] = 15,
 -- [track] = 5,
 [ferry] = 5,
 [shuttle_train] = 10,
 [default] = 10

 Le 19/09/2014 14:33, Pierre-Yves Berrard a écrit :
  Quelqu'un d'autre a-t-il remarqué qu'OSRM semble limiter la vitesse à
  90km/h sur autoroute ?
  osrm.at/9vt http://osrm.at/9vt

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Hyperactivité d'un utilisateur

2014-09-19 Thread Pieren
2014-09-18 21:37 GMT+02:00  didier2...@free.fr:

 pour les revert:
 si on veut faire un revert de plusieurs changesets, on commence par faire le 
 revert du plus récent

Attention, même en faisant le revert dans l'ordre inverse, on ne
retrouvera pas les données antécédentes sans conflits. En effet, si le
vandale a créé deux versions d'un élément (par ex, v1 - v2 puis v2 -
v3), le premier revert crée une nouvelle version en revenant à T-1 (v3
- v4 avec les attributs de v2). Mais quand on tente d'annuler le
deuxième changeset (le premier chronologiquement), JOSM va avoir un
conflit puisque la version de l'élément a évolué depuis (le changeset
parle d'un v1 - v2 qui n'est plus v2 mais v4 maintenant).
Il faudrait en fait que le reverter prenne en charge des groupes de
changesets au lieu de les faire un par un. Bien sûr, ça n'éviterait
pas les problèmes si un deuxième contributeur interfère dans
l'historique des changements mais ça faciliterait quand même les
retours en arrière lorsque quelqu'un modifie plusieurs fois un objet.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Hyperactivité d'un utilisateur

2014-09-19 Thread didier2020
+1 pour l'explication

Le vendredi 19 septembre 2014 à 17:46 +0200, Pieren a écrit : 
 2014-09-18 21:37 GMT+02:00  didier2...@free.fr:
 
  pour les revert:
  si on veut faire un revert de plusieurs changesets, on commence par faire 
  le revert du plus récent
 
 Attention, même en faisant le revert dans l'ordre inverse, on ne
 retrouvera pas les données antécédentes sans conflits. En effet, si le
 vandale a créé deux versions d'un élément (par ex, v1 - v2 puis v2 -
 v3), le premier revert crée une nouvelle version en revenant à T-1 (v3
 - v4 avec les attributs de v2). Mais quand on tente d'annuler le
 deuxième changeset (le premier chronologiquement), JOSM va avoir un
 conflit puisque la version de l'élément a évolué depuis (le changeset
 parle d'un v1 - v2 qui n'est plus v2 mais v4 maintenant).
 Il faudrait en fait que le reverter prenne en charge des groupes de
 changesets au lieu de les faire un par un. Bien sûr, ça n'éviterait
 pas les problèmes si un deuxième contributeur interfère dans
 l'historique des changements mais ça faciliterait quand même les
 retours en arrière lorsque quelqu'un modifie plusieurs fois un objet.
 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO/FANTOIR : deux orthographes pour une voie

2014-09-19 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
Bonjour,
Il me semble plus pertinent de mettre une balise   alt_name
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:alt_name sur la rue en question
et de faire une vérification par le code du soft en cas de non
correspondance cette balise si cela n'est pas déjà le cas.

Il y a une priorité sur les noms à prendre en compte il me semble:


   1. name
   2. official_name
   3. int_name
   4. nat_name
   5. name:fr
   6. reg_name
   7. loc_name
   8. old_name
   9. alt_name [] (boucle avec séparateur ; si plusieurs nom)
   10. short_name

C'est plus propre et plus compréhensible surtout si dernière on laisse une
note en expliquant que c'est pour faire une correspondance de nom entre
BANO et FANTOIR.

Vous en pensez quoi?


Le 17 septembre 2014 12:11, rainerU ra...@sfr.fr a écrit :

 Am 17.09.2014 11:51, schrieb Christian Quest:

  Il faudrait pour ces cas que les 2 codes FANTOIR soient rattachés à la
 voie en question.

 On ne s'est pas encore mis d'accord sur la façon de procéder... donc
 laisse en l'état et si c'est toujours visible sur le rendu BANO et bien
 cela ne gêne pas ;)


 Ok. Ça me gêne juste un peu pour celui qui passera après moi et doit
 refaire les mêmes vérifications pour savoir si c'est rue ou avenue.





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[OSM-talk-fr] Prix des carburants ?

2014-09-19 Thread Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
Bonjour, pensez-vous qu'on puisse croiser ce jeu de données avec osm pour
améliorer les tags, les corriger et/ou détecter les stations manquantes/en
trop ?

http://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/dataset/prix-des-carburants-en-france
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] On parle d'OSM-FR et de BANO dans L'Usine Digitale...

2014-09-19 Thread Brice MALLET
Bravo aux initiateurs et contributeurs de BANO dont le travail a permis 
d'aboutir à cette reconnaissance lors de la conférence de presse du 
17/09 sur la stratégie numérique de l'Etat :


/Par ailleurs, l'Etat a confirmé le soutien apporté cet été à un projet 
de base nationale d'adresses ouvertes initiée par OpenStreetMap France 
et qui devrait intéresser l'ensemble des organisations ou les 
gestionnaires de données localisées, à commencer par les collectivités 
territoriales. La constitution collaborative d'une base d'adresses 
nationale réalisée à partir des meilleures sources disponibles et 
libres comprendrait déjà environ 15 millions d'adresses./

(…)

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Le 17/09/14 21:02, Christian Quest a écrit :
C'est ici: 
http://www.usine-digitale.fr/article/e-gouvernement-la-france-s-engage-a-100-de-services-en-ligne-dans-un-an.N285088 



Pour info, il y a eu une communication de Thierry Mandon sur le 
numérique lors du conseil des ministres de ce mercredi. BANO y a été 
évoqué et fait surtout partie du dossier de presse.


Aujourd'hui a aussi été publié le décret concernant le poste 
d'Administrateur Général des Données (Chief Data Officer en anglais). 
C'est un décret très novateur pour les données en France et pour 
l'opendata. Il n'y a plus qu'à attendre la nomination de celui ou 
celle qui va tenir pour la première fois ce rôle.


Aujourd'hui aussi... nouvelle version du site http://data.gouv.fr/ qui 
intègre (parmi un grand nombre de nouveautés) désormais des minicarte 
OSM (fond mapquest) pour localiser la couverture géographique des jeux 
de données.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO/FANTOIR : deux orthographes pour une voie

2014-09-19 Thread Vincent de Château-Thierry

Bonsoir,

Le 19/09/2014 20:12, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit :


Il me semble plus pertinent de mettre une balise alt_name
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:alt_name sur la rue en
question et de faire une vérification par le code du soft en cas de non
correspondance cette balise si cela n'est pas déjà le cas.

Il y a une priorité sur les noms à prendre en compte il me semble:

 1. name
 2. official_name
 3. int_name
 4. nat_name
 5. name:fr
 6. reg_name
 7. loc_name
 8. old_name
 9. alt_name [] (boucle avec séparateur ; si plusieurs nom)
10. short_name

C'est plus propre et plus compréhensible surtout si dernière on laisse
une note en expliquant que c'est pour faire une correspondance de nom
entre BANO et FANTOIR.

Vous en pensez quoi?


Actuellement les traitements de rapprochement des noms ne considèrent 
que le tag name=*, il y a donc une marge de progression de ce côté là. 
Mais à l'inverse, ajouter un alt_name uniquement sur la foi de Fantoir, 
pour moi c'est se tromper d'objectif. Le alt_name devrait être issu 
d'une observation de terrain. Si rien ne le justifie sur place, je ne 
rajoute pas de alt_name. C'est dit ici régulièrement, le fait de laisser 
du rouge sur le calque BANO n'est pas problématique.
Après, laisser une note sur des objets OSM pour éviter une perte de 
temps par d'autres contributeurs, ça pourquoi pas.


vincent

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] On parle d'OSM-FR et de BANO dans L'Usine Digitale...

2014-09-19 Thread Vincent de Château-Thierry


Le 19/09/2014 21:58, Brice MALLET a écrit :

Bravo aux initiateurs et contributeurs de BANO dont le travail a permis
d'aboutir à cette reconnaissance lors de la conférence de presse du
17/09 sur la stratégie numérique de l'Etat :

/Par ailleurs, l'Etat a confirmé le soutien apporté cet été à un projet
de base nationale d'adresses ouvertes initiée par OpenStreetMap France
et qui devrait intéresser l'ensemble des organisations ou les
gestionnaires de données localisées, à commencer par les collectivités
territoriales. La constitution collaborative d'une base d'adresses
nationale réalisée à partir des meilleures sources disponibles et
libres comprendrait déjà environ 15 millions d'adresses./
(…)

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Z'ai cru voir un RatZillaS :
http://data.blog.lemonde.fr/2014/09/19/henri-verdier-chief-data-officer-de-la-france/

;)

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Prix des carburants ?

2014-09-19 Thread Frédéric Rodrigo
Oui bien sûr, j'ai prévu de l'ajouter à Osmose. On peut même avoir le 
type de carburant.

Je suis preneur de toute aides.

Frédéric.


Le 19/09/2014 20:58, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft a écrit :

Bonjour, pensez-vous qu'on puisse croiser ce jeu de données avec osm
pour améliorer les tags, les corriger et/ou détecter les stations
manquantes/en trop ?

http://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/dataset/prix-des-carburants-en-france



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Hyperactivité d'un utilisateur

2014-09-19 Thread Philippe Verdy
Le 19 septembre 2014 17:46, Pieren pier...@gmail.com a écrit :

 2014-09-18 21:37 GMT+02:00  didier2...@free.fr:

  pour les revert:
  si on veut faire un revert de plusieurs changesets, on commence par
 faire le revert du plus récent

 Attention, même en faisant le revert dans l'ordre inverse, on ne
 retrouvera pas les données antécédentes sans conflits. En effet, si le
 vandale a créé deux versions d'un élément (par ex, v1 - v2 puis v2 -
 v3), le premier revert crée une nouvelle version en revenant à T-1 (v3
 - v4 avec les attributs de v2). Mais quand on tente d'annuler le
 deuxième changeset (le premier chronologiquement), JOSM va avoir un
 conflit puisque la version de l'élément a évolué depuis (le changeset
 parle d'un v1 - v2 qui n'est plus v2 mais v4 maintenant).
 Il faudrait en fait que le reverter prenne en charge des groupes de
 changesets au lieu de les faire un par un.

 Pour compléter; c'est plus compliqué que ça car un même changeset peut
contenir plusieurs versions successives d'un objet.

Et lors d'une résolution de conflits entre deux changesets, ils vont chacun
créer des versions sur des objets séparés mais entremêlés (et assez souvent
pour les résoudre on est amené à modifier un même objet une seconde fois
dans le changeset). L'autre cas c'est le changeset resté ouvert pour
plusieurs modifs en séries.

La granularité n'est donc pas le changeset mais uniquement objet par objet
avec des version séparées; réparties dans un nombre variable de changesets.
Noter aussi qu'il peut y avoir pluseurs changesets ouverts simultanément
par le même utilisateur et quel leurs modifs peuvent aussi s'entre mêler
(amais avec des conflits de versions possibles entre eux et à résoudre pour
chacun).

Bref, faire un revert d'un ou plusieurs changesets c'est aussi compliqué!
Il faut lister toutes les versions de chaque objet modifié dans le(s)
changet(s) et repérer les versions initiales. Si on veut éviter de
compliquer avec des listes d'objets compliquées, on a intéret à faire les
reverts non pas en groupant selon leur changset d'origine mais selon leur
dépendances (objets liés : noeuds référencés par ways ou relations, ways et
relations référencées par relations) et travailler sur ces jeux assez
petits pour pouvoir traiter ces petits groupes séparément : ceci fait on
peut alors les déversionner étape par étape en parcourant les versions en
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[Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings

2014-09-19 Thread Reilly, Colin
I've also see buildings merged that may appear to be one building from above 
but are in fact two. A single building cannot straddle two tax parcels. In 
general, visual information in NYC is sometimes not enough to warrant a change. 
Example below of a building with two separate address points sitting on two 
separate tax parcels that was merged when it should not have been.

The intention of this email is to inform the group. I'm sure you can all 
imagine the challenges in managing data in Manhattan. Often multiple sources 
are necessary to validate changes.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3069855105/history#map=19/40.75931/-73.96838

Cheers,

Colin Reilly
Director, Geographic Information Systems
New York City Department of
Information Technology  Telecommunications
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Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings

2014-09-19 Thread Katie Filbert
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Reilly, Colin crei...@doitt.nyc.gov
wrote:

  I’ve also see buildings merged that may appear to be one building from
 above but are in fact two.


Do you have better imagery that we would be able to use? I think that would
help in this case.

Cheers,
Katie



 A single building cannot straddle two tax parcels. In general, visual
 information in NYC is sometimes not enough to warrant a change. Example
 below of a building with two separate address points sitting on two
 separate tax parcels that was merged when it should not have been.



 The intention of this email is to inform the group. I’m sure you can all
 imagine the challenges in managing data in Manhattan. Often multiple
 sources are necessary to validate changes.




 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3069855105/history#map=19/40.75931/-73.96838



 Cheers,



 Colin Reilly

 Director, Geographic Information Systems

 *New York City Department of *

 *Information Technology  Telecommunications*

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Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings

2014-09-19 Thread Paul Norman

On 9/19/2014 7:00 AM, Bryan Housel wrote:
We really should come up with a good way to make authoritative data 
harder to edit in the various editors.
All that a particular data source can be authoritative for is what that 
data source says something is. What is authoritative for OSM is the 
ground truth.


That's not to say that there aren't features that would be difficult to 
improve in accuracy. The Canada-US border on the west coast comes to 
mind. It's pieced together from multiple observations and data sources 
and it's unlikely someone could improve it's accuracy, but the 
possibility remains there.


The idea of some tag to lock objects from normal editing because they 
are authoritative has occasionally been proposed, and to summarize the 
discussion, it's extremely unlikely to happen.


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Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings

2014-09-19 Thread Paul Norman

On 9/19/2014 6:19 AM, Reilly, Colin wrote:

A single building cannot straddle two tax parcels.
This seems incorrect. If I build a structure on two tax parcels, it can 
exist as a single building. It may not be legal, or may require planning 
tricks that make it two buildings in the eyes of the city, but if I 
survey it and it's one building, I will map it so.


In dense urban areas the edges of buildings can often only be determined 
by surveys, not by imagery, as the imagery only shows the roofs 
generally, and roofs may change appearance within a building or not 
change appearance between two adjacent buildings.


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Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 82, Issue 31

2014-09-19 Thread Reilly, Colin
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On 9/19/2014 7:00 AM, Bryan Housel wrote:
 We really should come up with a good way to make authoritative data 
 harder to edit in the various editors.
All that a particular data source can be authoritative for is what that data 
source says something is. What is authoritative for OSM is the ground truth.

That's not to say that there aren't features that would be difficult to improve 
in accuracy. The Canada-US border on the west coast comes to mind. It's pieced 
together from multiple observations and data sources and it's unlikely someone 
could improve it's accuracy, but the possibility remains there.

The idea of some tag to lock objects from normal editing because they are 
authoritative has occasionally been proposed, and to summarize the 
discussion, it's extremely unlikely to happen.



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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:26:25 -0700
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On 9/19/2014 6:19 AM, Reilly, Colin wrote:
 A single building cannot straddle two tax parcels.
This seems incorrect. If I build a structure on two tax parcels, it can exist 
as a single building. It may not be legal, or may require planning tricks that 
make it two buildings in the eyes of the city, but if I survey it and it's one 
building, I will map it so.

In dense urban areas the edges of buildings can often only be determined by 
surveys, not by imagery, as the imagery only shows the roofs generally, and 
roofs may change appearance within a building or not change appearance between 
two adjacent buildings.



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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:35:18 -0700
From: Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org
To: Paul Norman penor...@mac.com
Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings
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Yah, if that were true it would be a very strange and site-specific rule. I 
know of several buildings here that span multiple tax lots.

d.

On Sep 19, 2014, at 09:26, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:

 On 9/19/2014 6:19 AM, Reilly, Colin wrote:
 A single building cannot straddle two tax parcels.
 This seems incorrect. If I build a structure on two tax parcels, it can exist 
 as a single building. It may not be legal, or may require planning tricks 
 that make it two buildings in the eyes of the city, but if I survey it and 
 it's one building, I will map it so.
 
 In dense urban areas the edges of buildings can often only be determined by 
 surveys, not by imagery, as the imagery only shows the roofs generally, and 
 roofs may change appearance within a building or not change appearance 
 between two adjacent buildings.
 
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From: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
To: Paul Norman penor...@mac.com
Cc: osm talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings
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2014-09-19 18:26 GMT+02:00 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com:

 but if I survey it and it's one building, I will map it so.



Does this survey include the inside or will the judgement be based only on the 
outside?




 In dense urban areas the edges of buildings can often only be 
 determined by surveys, not by imagery, as the imagery only shows the 
 roofs generally, and roofs may change appearance within a building or 
 not change appearance between two adjacent buildings.



Typically there will be some kind of division in the roof because you have to 
avoid fire going from one building to the other.
I think it is more probable that people will split one building into several 
buildings than the other way round.

It may also not be very clear how many buildings there are in some cases, e.g. 
when dealing with very

Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings

2014-09-19 Thread Brad Neuhauser
The thing is, once it's in OSM, it's not NYC's data anymore--it's
everyone's data. So it's no longer authoritative. Sometimes the crowd
will improve it or add to it, sometimes the crowd will screw it up,
sometimes the crowd will do it differently than you think is best. The
theory (borne out in practice thus far) is that over time the data quality
line keeps trending upwards.

Best,
Brad

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Reilly, Colin crei...@doitt.nyc.gov
wrote:

  All that a particular data source can be authoritative for is what that
 data source says something is. What is authoritative for OSM is the ground
 truth.

 Not sure I understand the first sentence. As for the second, your eyes can
 deceive you. Nonetheless, I would argue that authoritative data should
 matter and could be tagged as source= authoritative. Intent not to prevent
 other from updating but more as a cautionary flag.  To me accuracy and
 currency should be paramount.

  This seems incorrect. If I build a structure on two tax parcels, it can
 exist as a single building. It may not be legal, or may require planning
 tricks that make it two buildings in the eyes of the city, but if I survey
 it and it's one building, I will map it so.

 Not in NYC. Although there are some edge and legacy cases, you cannot
 legally build a building that straddles more than one parcel. You would
 first need to merge the tax parcels before constructing the building.

  Yah, if that were true it would be a very strange and site-specific
 rule. I know of several buildings here that span multiple tax lots.

 NYC specific. I was not speaking in general terms but to NYC
 building/finance codes. Without that requirement, code enforcement and tax
 assessment would be difficult.


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Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings

2014-09-19 Thread Jason Remillard
Hi,


 the building to the east. In this case it was the tax parcel and multiple
 address that indicate two buildings not one.

We have a the MA state tax parcel data as a translucent imaging layer
hosted on the US OSM. It can be used in JOSM, and it useful for all
kinds of things. Perhaps, the same could be done for NY city.

Jason

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[Talk-us] Speed limit sign tagging

2014-09-19 Thread Hans De Kryger
How does the mapping community feel about tagging the location of speed
limit signs? I remember another mapper brought up this topic somewhere
outside the mailing list. The mapper explained that he mapped the location
of speed limit signs for future reference to verify the speed limits of
roads. I wanted other mappers opinions on how they feel about this. In my
opinion i would 100% agree with this view. We need a way to verify a speed
limit of a road if we want to keep the roads up to date.

Regards,
Hans
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Re: [Talk-us] Speed limit sign tagging

2014-09-19 Thread Nate Wessel

Hans,
I think sign locations would be great! I just entered a ton of speed 
limits a couple months back and wish I'd had thought to add them somehow...
The only concern I would have is that the direction they're facing be 
indicated. On long roads with few intersections, placing them by one 
side (for two-ways) would do the trick. In urban areas it might get more 
complicated. Which street does a sign right at an intersection belong 
to? I'm not sure how best to deal with that.


I would not want to see signs placed as a point on the line except maybe 
on one-ways. How do other types of road signs indicate directionality? 
Has this already been effectively resolved? I don't actually think I've 
ever seen a sign in OSM around these parts.


Rock on,
Nate

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 17:49:37 -0700
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How does the mapping community feel about tagging the location of speed
limit signs? I remember another mapper brought up this topic somewhere
outside the mailing list. The mapper explained that he mapped the location
of speed limit signs for future reference to verify the speed limits of
roads. I wanted other mappers opinions on how they feel about this. In my
opinion i would 100% agree with this view. We need a way to verify a speed
limit of a road if we want to keep the roads up to date.

Regards,
Hans



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Re: [Talk-us] Speed limit sign tagging

2014-09-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Nate Wessel bike...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would not want to see signs placed as a point on the line except maybe
 on one-ways. How do other types of road signs indicate directionality? Has
 this already been effectively resolved? I don't actually think I've ever
 seen a sign in OSM around these parts.


Generally speaking, signs are posted on the same side of the road as the
direction they effect (say drive-on-right, north-south road:  Signs
affecting northbound traffic would be on the east side of the roadway).
 There are some exceptions, however, such as conditional STOP and DO NOT
ENTER signs that light up if a clearance is exceeded, and other warning
signs (usually of the stop/yield/signal ahead or low clearance ahead
variety) in which it's pretty obvious which way they're facing since there
will be a corresponding pair on the other side of the span or intersection
they're protecting facing the opposite direction.
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