Re: [talk-ph] TYPHOON RUBY - TASK CREATION NOTICE #801 - URGENT RESPONSE

2014-12-06 Thread maning sambale
According to the latest forecast, Hagupit/Ruby's expected landfall will be
this evening around the area of Dolores.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/12.0376/125.4837

Lots of settlements here still need detailed mapping.  It is now marked as
priority in task 801: http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/801
Since the HIU tiles is panchromatic, it maybe difficult to do buildings.
But, experienced mappers can easily do this.
Please focus of settlements near the coast (usually along the major road).

Thanks!

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote:

 THIS TASK REPLACES TASK #800 due to potential mapping conflicts with the
 number of people mapping

 *THIS TASK IS FOR EXPERIENCED MAPPERS*

 Typhoon Ruby has slowed slightly and the track has moved to the north of
 earlier predictions, giving us a longer window to complete pre-disaster
 mapping tasks.

 In support of The Philippine Government, Red Cross/Red Crescent, DHN and
 other Agencies, we have created our *third* task for this Activation. 
 *http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/801
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/801*

 We NOW HAVE have new Satellite Imagery for Samar courtesy of MapGive.

 Through the MapGive project, the Humanitarian Information Unit (HIU) of
 the U.S. Department of State is providing the OpenStreetMap community
 access to updated satellite imagery services to help assist with
 humanitarian mapping.

 This task covers an area with HiRes Black and White Imagery

 We will be looking to add or improve the following features


- roads; schools, hospitals, churches, buildings, residential and
commercial areas and waterfronts, malls, sports complexes.
- open areas (not fields, just smooth open ground next to towns) as
leisure=common as these are potential helicopter landing sites.


 This is a larger area, if you need to split the tiles you can do so up to
 two times.

 *We ask all Hotties to help in the response and to map this task as
 quickly as possible. We expect to make additional tasks available as the
 landfall track predictions improve.*


 Regards

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[talk-ph] TYPHOON RUBY - TASK CREATION NOTICE #804 - URGENT RESPONSE

2014-12-06 Thread Mark Cupitt
Typhoon Ruby has made landfall in Northern Samar and is traveling in a
North west Track

In support of The Philippine Government, Red Cross/Red Crescent, DHN and
other Agencies, we have created our *fourth* task for this Activation.
*http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/804
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/804*

This Task covers un-mapped or poorly mapped areas on high risk islands to
the west of Samar and Masbate along a corridor on the project path of the
Typhoon.

Please focus on the islands to the east where Hires Imagery is available.
Imagery has been requested for islands with no coverage and will be
included in a future task

We will be looking to add or improve the following features


   - roads; schools, hospitals, churches, buildings, residential and
   commercial areas and waterfronts, malls, sports complexes.
   - open areas (not fields, just smooth open ground next to towns) as
   leisure=common as these are potential helicopter landing sites.


This is a larger area, if you need to split the tiles you can do so up to
two times.

*We ask all Hotties to help in the response and to map this task as quickly
as possible. We expect to make additional tasks available as the landfall
track predictions improve.*

Regards

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[talk-ph] TYPHOON RUBY (ISLANDS) - TASK CREATION NOTICE #807 - URGENT RESPONSE

2014-12-06 Thread Mark Cupitt
Typhoon Ruby has made landfall in Northern Samar and is traveling in a
North west Track

In support of The Philippine Government, Red Cross/Red Crescent, DHN and
other Agencies, we have created our *fifth* task for this Activation.
*http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/807
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/807*

This Task covers a small group of un-mapped areas on high risk islands
between Samar and Masbate

We NOW HAVE have new Satellite Imagery for this area courtesy of MapGive.

Through the MapGive project, the Humanitarian Information Unit (HIU) of the
U.S. Department of State is providing the OpenStreetMap community access to
updated satellite imagery services to help assist with humanitarian mapping.

We will be looking to add or improve the following features


   - roads; schools, hospitals, churches, buildings, residential and
   commercial areas and waterfronts, malls, sports complexes.
   - open areas (not fields, just smooth open ground next to towns) as
   leisure=common as these are potential helicopter landing sites.



*We ask all Hotties to help in the response and to map this task as quickly
as possible. We expect to make additional tasks available as the landfall
track predictions improve.*

Regards

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[talk-ph] TYPHOON RUBY - TASK CREATION NOTICE #808 - URGENT RESPONSE

2014-12-06 Thread Mark Cupitt
Typhoon Ruby has made landfall in Northern Samar.

In support of The Philippine Government, Red Cross/Red Crescent, DHN and
other Agencies, we have created our *sixth* task for this Activation.
*http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/808
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/808*

This Task covers a small area around Borongon on the East Coast of Samar,
mapping is required for torrential rain damage, potential storm surge and
road access to remote areas.


We NOW HAVE have new Satellite Imagery for this area courtesy of MapGive.

Through the MapGive project, the Humanitarian Information Unit (HIU) of the
U.S. Department of State is providing the OpenStreetMap community access to
updated satellite imagery services to help assist with humanitarian mapping.

We will be looking to add or improve the following features


   - roads; schools, hospitals, churches, buildings, residential and
   commercial areas and waterfronts, malls, sports complexes.
   - open areas (not fields, just smooth open ground next to towns) as
   leisure=common as these are potential helicopter landing sites.



*We ask all Hotties to help in the response and to map this task as quickly
as possible. We expect to make additional tasks available as the landfall
track predictions improve.*

Regards

Mark Cupitt

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[talk-ph] [Typhoon Hagupit/Ruby] Visual tagging guide.

2014-12-06 Thread maning sambale
Hi,

I'm creating a tagging guide for mappers showing screenshots of both
bing and the hiu image.  Please help improve the text and if you can
find good sample imagery for each feature like churches as mentioned
in the tagging priority, just add it in the document.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Typhoon_Hagupit_%28Ruby%29#Mapping_Standards

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[talk-ph] Typhoon ruby Location Update

2014-12-06 Thread Mark Cupitt
Dear All

*Typhoon Ruby has made landfall over Cataingan, Masbate.* At 12:00 p.m.
December 7, 2014, the eye of Typhoon Ruby was located based on all
available data including Cebu Doppler radar at 35 km Southeast of Masbate
City, Masbate (12.1°N, 123.8°E). [Source
http://www.gov.ph/2014/12/07/weather-bulletin-no-14-tropical-cyclone-warning-typhoon-ruby-issued-at-1100-a-m-december-7-2014/
]

Strength: Maximum sustained winds of 140 kph near the center and gustiness
of up to 170 kph.

Regards

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[OSM-talk-be] Jachtpaden are not cycleway Highway (path along the rivers)

2014-12-06 Thread Jakka

Hi,

jachtpaden near the Leie Schelde Albert Kanaalenz... are tagged 
as cycleway but in serveye there is no sign

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:Cycleway
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fietspad
And the owner of those ways says:
http://www.descheepvaart.be/Rubriek/Recreatie/Jaagpaden.aspx
What would be the correct tag?

Jakka


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Jachtpaden are not cycleway Highway (path along the rivers)

2014-12-06 Thread Marc Gemis
This topic pops up from time to time, see e.g.
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/2013-July/004376.html .
Don't remember the outcome, besides that they are not cycleways and do not
have names in general.

If I would start completely afresh I would propose:
highway=service
service=towpath
access=private
bicycle=yes
foot=yes
surface=asphatl/earth/
maxspeed=30

In some cases the access might be more open, such as destination or even
yes.

m

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Jakka vdmfrank...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 jachtpaden near the Leie Schelde Albert Kanaalenz... are tagged as
 cycleway but in serveye there is no sign
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:Cycleway
 http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fietspad
 And the owner of those ways says:
 http://www.descheepvaart.be/Rubriek/Recreatie/Jaagpaden.aspx
 What would be the correct tag?

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Balance of power (was: Re: How to vote to match your view)

2014-12-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[Apologies to talk@ readers for this follow-up to a post on osmf-talk@. 
I'm not an OSMF member and therefore can't post to osmf-talk@, but as 
I'm being spoken about over there, I'd appreciate the opportunity to 
respond.]


Steve Coast wrote:

See, there was no group that mobbed Richard out the board. The CWG
took away Twitter access from everyone without any consultation,
thinking Ivan's tweet was mine. I asked for it back, used every
channel as I outlined. Richard sadly quit feeling CWG was being
overpowered by the board but that's not what happened. The CWG took
Twitter away from the people using it without talking to anyone, then
was surprised this wasn't okay.


For the record:

Communications Working Group didn't think Ivan's tweet was yours. We 
genuinely didn't know who had sent it. (From what I remember of the 
content of the tweet, it didn't appear to be from a native English 
speaker, and at first I thought it might have been Emilie.)


At the time, CWG was aiming for a step change in our communications. In 
particular, we were aiming to follow up our very successful switch2osm 
campaign, and were in the early stages of planning a second campaign 
aimed at recruiting new mappers.


A large part of that was professionalising our message - bringing 
sharper focus to OSM's outbound communications, to consistently push the 
message that mapping was accessible, enjoyable, and made a difference. 
Basic marketing and not the sort of thing that should come as a surprise 
to anyone.


To get this focused message across, we needed to ensure that everything 
going out on our Twitter, Facebook and Google+ accounts was in line. In 
an ideal world we would like to have drawn up simple house style and 
messaging guidelines (again, marketing 101) for those with access.


However, our hand was forced by this badly phrased tweet, from persons 
unknown, endorsing a map which failed to attribute OSM (years later, I 
can't even remember what map it was!). Changing the Twitter password and 
asking those who wanted a message to go out to contact us, which is what 
we did, seemed the easiest and most sensible short-term measure.


Unfortunately you decided to take this as a personal affront, when no 
such affront was intended, and to campaign volubly for CWG's work to be 
overruled because of this.


There is absolutely no personal animus in this. Sure, I disagree with 
you on many things, but you're an engaging guy to chat to over a pint 
and I have no doubt we'll do so again some time. But let me make it 
clear that I did not quit because CWG was being overpowered by the 
board. I quit because it was clear that there was no likelihood of 
improving OSM through the Foundation, in any fashion, when 
well-intentioned, industrious, and skilled volunteer work could be 
overturned by emotive say-so.


I see no sign that this has changed, and that is why I have no intention 
of rejoining the Foundation.


As a postscript, I believe switch2osm was the last substantial marketing 
effort that OSMF has done. All the good publicity for OSM since then has 
been from third parties, particularly Mapbox. Progress in OSM happens 
despite the Foundation, not because of it.


Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Balance of power (was: Re: How to vote to match your view)

2014-12-06 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
 [Apologies to talk@ readers for this follow-up to a post on osmf-talk@. I'm
 not an OSMF member and therefore can't post to osmf-talk@, but as I'm being
 spoken about over there, I'd appreciate the opportunity to respond.]

 Steve Coast wrote:

 See, there was no group that mobbed Richard out the board. The CWG
 took away Twitter access from everyone without any consultation,
 thinking Ivan's tweet was mine. I asked for it back, used every
 channel as I outlined. Richard sadly quit feeling CWG was being
 overpowered by the board but that's not what happened. The CWG took
 Twitter away from the people using it without talking to anyone, then
 was surprised this wasn't okay.


 For the record:

 Communications Working Group didn't think Ivan's tweet was yours. We
 genuinely didn't know who had sent it. (From what I remember of the content
 of the tweet, it didn't appear to be from a native English speaker, and at
 first I thought it might have been Emilie.)

 At the time, CWG was aiming for a step change in our communications. In
 particular, we were aiming to follow up our very successful switch2osm
 campaign, and were in the early stages of planning a second campaign aimed
 at recruiting new mappers.

 A large part of that was professionalising our message - bringing sharper
 focus to OSM's outbound communications, to consistently push the message
 that mapping was accessible, enjoyable, and made a difference. Basic
 marketing and not the sort of thing that should come as a surprise to
 anyone.

 To get this focused message across, we needed to ensure that everything
 going out on our Twitter, Facebook and Google+ accounts was in line. In an
 ideal world we would like to have drawn up simple house style and messaging
 guidelines (again, marketing 101) for those with access.

 However, our hand was forced by this badly phrased tweet, from persons
 unknown, endorsing a map which failed to attribute OSM (years later, I can't
 even remember what map it was!). Changing the Twitter password and asking
 those who wanted a message to go out to contact us, which is what we did,
 seemed the easiest and most sensible short-term measure.

 Unfortunately you decided to take this as a personal affront, when no such
 affront was intended, and to campaign volubly for CWG's work to be overruled
 because of this.

 There is absolutely no personal animus in this. Sure, I disagree with you on
 many things, but you're an engaging guy to chat to over a pint and I have no
 doubt we'll do so again some time. But let me make it clear that I did not
 quit because CWG was being overpowered by the board. I quit because it was
 clear that there was no likelihood of improving OSM through the Foundation,
 in any fashion, when well-intentioned, industrious, and skilled volunteer
 work could be overturned by emotive say-so.

 I see no sign that this has changed, and that is why I have no intention of
 rejoining the Foundation.

 As a postscript, I believe switch2osm was the last substantial marketing
 effort that OSMF has done. All the good publicity for OSM since then has
 been from third parties

I think that the single most effective marketing message since
Switch2OSM.org was Serge's article, Why the World Needs
OpenStreetMap[1]

[1] http://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2014/01/04/why-the-world-needs-openstreetmap/

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Balance of power (was: Re: How to vote to match your view)

2014-12-06 Thread Steve Coast
We can agree to disagree that taking access away to a resource like Twitter is 
okay. It doesn't feel ok in an open project, and the solution of emailing a 
committee to send a tweet feels cumbersome. The actual solution of grouptweet 
feels like it works for everyone, including giving the accountability you 
wanted. Still sad you left over it.

Steve

 On Dec 6, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
 
 [Apologies to talk@ readers for this follow-up to a post on osmf-talk@. I'm 
 not an OSMF member and therefore can't post to osmf-talk@, but as I'm being 
 spoken about over there, I'd appreciate the opportunity to respond.]
 
 Steve Coast wrote:
 See, there was no group that mobbed Richard out the board. The CWG
 took away Twitter access from everyone without any consultation,
 thinking Ivan's tweet was mine. I asked for it back, used every
 channel as I outlined. Richard sadly quit feeling CWG was being
 overpowered by the board but that's not what happened. The CWG took
 Twitter away from the people using it without talking to anyone, then
 was surprised this wasn't okay.
 
 For the record:
 
 Communications Working Group didn't think Ivan's tweet was yours. We 
 genuinely didn't know who had sent it. (From what I remember of the content 
 of the tweet, it didn't appear to be from a native English speaker, and at 
 first I thought it might have been Emilie.)
 
 At the time, CWG was aiming for a step change in our communications. In 
 particular, we were aiming to follow up our very successful switch2osm 
 campaign, and were in the early stages of planning a second campaign aimed at 
 recruiting new mappers.
 
 A large part of that was professionalising our message - bringing sharper 
 focus to OSM's outbound communications, to consistently push the message that 
 mapping was accessible, enjoyable, and made a difference. Basic marketing and 
 not the sort of thing that should come as a surprise to anyone.
 
 To get this focused message across, we needed to ensure that everything going 
 out on our Twitter, Facebook and Google+ accounts was in line. In an ideal 
 world we would like to have drawn up simple house style and messaging 
 guidelines (again, marketing 101) for those with access.
 
 However, our hand was forced by this badly phrased tweet, from persons 
 unknown, endorsing a map which failed to attribute OSM (years later, I can't 
 even remember what map it was!). Changing the Twitter password and asking 
 those who wanted a message to go out to contact us, which is what we did, 
 seemed the easiest and most sensible short-term measure.
 
 Unfortunately you decided to take this as a personal affront, when no such 
 affront was intended, and to campaign volubly for CWG's work to be overruled 
 because of this.
 
 There is absolutely no personal animus in this. Sure, I disagree with you on 
 many things, but you're an engaging guy to chat to over a pint and I have no 
 doubt we'll do so again some time. But let me make it clear that I did not 
 quit because CWG was being overpowered by the board. I quit because it was 
 clear that there was no likelihood of improving OSM through the Foundation, 
 in any fashion, when well-intentioned, industrious, and skilled volunteer 
 work could be overturned by emotive say-so.
 
 I see no sign that this has changed, and that is why I have no intention of 
 rejoining the Foundation.
 
 As a postscript, I believe switch2osm was the last substantial marketing 
 effort that OSMF has done. All the good publicity for OSM since then has been 
 from third parties, particularly Mapbox. Progress in OSM happens despite the 
 Foundation, not because of it.
 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Nik4: mapnik → image

2014-12-06 Thread Ilya Zverev

Today I have published Nik4. It makes everything easier.


I see that it can split a large image into smaller mapnik rendering jobs
and combine them after, with --tiles. That's already very useful but is
it also possible to actually keep the tiles (e.g. for building a GDAL
VRT from them)? This would require a separate .pgw file for each tile.


Thanks for the suggestion, I've just published release 1.5 with
`--just-tiles` option: when used, it does not merge tiles, but keeps 
them, and creates ozi/wld files for each if requested. I've tested it 
with gdal_merge.


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[OSM-talk] planet.gpx

2014-12-06 Thread Paul Johnson
How often does planet.gpx get updated?  And is there a version that doesn't
strip out speed data?
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[OSM-talk] Some tools to help community-driven imports

2014-12-06 Thread Guillaume Pratte
Hello,

I am writing to share some tools that we have developed in preparation for the 
City of Montreal open data community-driven import. (Said import is in 
preparation and has not yet begun.)

These tools cover converting .csv files to .osm files and splitting .osm files 
for the Tasking Manager. The code is available in the following GitHub project:

 https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm

See this post for all the details:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Zethradon/diary/28183 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Zethradon/diary/28183

I’ll skip most of the post to cover the main points I would like to share with 
the mailing list.

## csv2osm: a tool for converting .csv files

As ogr2osm cannot easily read .csv files as an input, I wrote a script that is 
similar to ogr2osm and provide the same translator concept, and works 
exclusively for .csv files. The script is called csv2osm and can be found here:

 https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm/blob/master/mtl2osm/csv2osm.py 
https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm/blob/master/mtl2osm/csv2osm.py

Translators for this script have the same entry point as ogr2osm (the 
filterTags function). For example, Montreal's open dataset for bike parkings is 
provided as a .csv file. The translator for this dataset parses the description 
of each bike parking to extract the capacity and provides the following tags 
for each points.

 
https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm/blob/master/mtl2osm/donnees/arceaux-a-velos/traducteur-arceaux-a-velos.py
 
https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm/blob/master/mtl2osm/donnees/arceaux-a-velos/traducteur-arceaux-a-velos.py

Instructions on using the script is available here:

 https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm/blob/master/mtl2osm/donnees/arceaux-a-velos/ 
https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm/blob/master/mtl2osm/donnees/arceaux-a-velos/


## Splitting .osm files for the HOT Tasking Manager

We are planning to use the HOT Tasking Manager for our import. To ease 
importing the generated .osm dataset into JOSM (for manual reconciliation with 
OSM data), we had to write a script that splits the .osm files into a series of 
sub-files, one per sub-task. Essentially the .osm file is split-up according to 
a grid defined in JSON format. This allows to see in JOSM only the part of the 
data for the task, instead of having to download the data for the whole city. 
Code is available here:

 https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm/blob/master/mtl2osm/osm_grid_splitter.py 
https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm/blob/master/mtl2osm/osm_grid_splitter.py

I hope these tools can be of benefit to the OpenStreetMap community. Do not 
hesitate to reply if you have any question. I know the documentation on these 
tools is not 100% complete, so I'll certainly post more details if there is 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Some tools to help community-driven imports

2014-12-06 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Guillaume Pratte 
guilla...@guillaumepratte.net wrote:

 ## Splitting .osm files for the HOT Tasking Manager

 We are planning to use the HOT Tasking Manager for our import. To ease
 importing the generated .osm dataset into JOSM (for manual reconciliation
 with OSM data), we had to write a script that splits the .osm files into a
 series of sub-files, one per sub-task. Essentially the .osm file is
 split-up according to a grid defined in JSON format. This allows to see in
 JOSM only the part of the data for the task, instead of having to download
 the data for the whole city. Code is available here:

  https://github.com/OsmQc/mtl2osm/blob/master/mtl2osm/osm_grid_splitter.py

 I hope these tools can be of benefit to the OpenStreetMap community. Do
 not hesitate to reply if you have any question. I know the documentation on
 these tools is not 100% complete, so I'll certainly post more details if
 there is interest in them.


Thanks - this is just what I've been looking for. We wrote a clunky python
script but yours looks much more elegant. I'll give it a try in the next
week or so when I get finished cleaning up some buildings and addresses.

Clifford


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[OSM-talk-nl] Lekenvraag

2014-12-06 Thread Pander OpenTaal
Hoi allemaal,

Een vraag van mijn broer m.b.t. OSM: Als technisch bouwkundige wil ik
graag een detailkaart geplaatst over een luchtfoto van het Dr. Jan
Ingenhouszplein 2 te Breda. Waar kan ik die vinden?

Verder heb van het gebouw, dat een monument is, een tekening beschikbaar
waarbij de binnen- en buitenkant volledig is ingemeten met Total
Station. Is dat zinvol om aan OSM of een andere open bron bij te dragen?

Groeten,

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Re: [Talk-de] Abbiegespuren mit Fahrradspur

2014-12-06 Thread Tom Pfeifer

715371 wrote on 2014-12-06 02:04:


Was ist eigentlich mit solch einem Problem:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bremen_street_with_cycleway_lane_between_car_lanes.jpg


So eine Konstellation war ja wohl die einleitende Frage in diesem Thread :-)


turn:lanes=left|through|cycleway:through|right ?


Auch ein guter Vorschlag, hier kann der Renderer sich auf die
Bezeichner konzentrieren die er kennt, und alle Spuren ignorieren,
die ihm unbekannt sind, insbesondere müssen nicht vorher alle
access-Matrizen geparst werden.


Für die Breite gibt es width:lanes*=*


Das weiß ich. Es geht mir um die Default-Breite, denn wer will schon bei
einem stinknormalen Radweg die Breite taggen?


Gibt es. Z. B. hier:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/293395597


Wenn ulamm das nachgemessen hat kann er das ja gern auch ranschreiben, wobei mir
1.6m nicht sehr ungewöhnlich erscheint. Aber ich habe hierzulande schon 4 m 
breite
Fahrradalleen gesehen ;-)

Tom


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[Talk-de] Entfernungs-Skala/Massstab

2014-12-06 Thread davidoff12001
Hallo an die Liste,

vielleicht kann hier eine Frage beantwortet werden, auf die ich
außerhalb keine Antwort gefunden habe.

Im Gegensatz zu Google Maps oder Papierkarten ist bei OpenStreetmap
zumindest per Vorgabe kein Maßstab ersichtlich. Es erschwert die
Orientierung erheblich, bzw. macht sie umständlicher, wenn man die
Entfernungen nicht einschätzen kann und erst den Routenplaner dafür
bemühen muß.

Mache ich was falsch oder ist Besserung in Sicht?

-davidoff12001


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Re: [Talk-de] Entfernungs-Skala/Massstab

2014-12-06 Thread Volker Schmidt
openstreetmap.org: links unten in der Ecke
Google Maps: rechts unten in der Ecke

2014-12-06 14:02 GMT+01:00 davidoff12...@yahoo.de:

 Hallo an die Liste,

 vielleicht kann hier eine Frage beantwortet werden, auf die ich
 außerhalb keine Antwort gefunden habe.

 Im Gegensatz zu Google Maps oder Papierkarten ist bei OpenStreetmap
 zumindest per Vorgabe kein Maßstab ersichtlich. Es erschwert die
 Orientierung erheblich, bzw. macht sie umständlicher, wenn man die
 Entfernungen nicht einschätzen kann und erst den Routenplaner dafür
 bemühen muß.

 Mache ich was falsch oder ist Besserung in Sicht?

 -davidoff12001


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Re: [Talk-de] Entfernungs-Skala/Massstab

2014-12-06 Thread Stephan Knauss

On 06.12.2014 20:02, davidoff12...@yahoo.de wrote:

Im Gegensatz zu Google Maps oder Papierkarten ist bei OpenStreetmap
zumindest per Vorgabe kein Maßstab ersichtlich. Es erschwert die
Orientierung erheblich, bzw. macht sie umständlicher, wenn man die
Entfernungen nicht einschätzen kann und erst den Routenplaner dafür
bemühen muß.
Mache ich was falsch oder ist Besserung in Sicht?


was genau verstehst du unter Maßstab?

So etwas wie die Anzeige unten links im Eck, die angibt wie lang 300km 
bzw. 100 Meilen sind?


http://osm.org/go/euEQg-

Die Anzeige verändert sich wenn du in die Karte reinzoomst.

Stephan



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Re: [Talk-de] Entfernungs-Skala/Massstab

2014-12-06 Thread Christoph Hormann

Zu beachten hier übrigens, dass ein einzelner Maßstab im Allgemeinen 
falsch und irreführend ist, da die Projektion einen variablen Maßstab 
hat.  Bei hohen Zoomstufen ist das nicht so bedeutend, bei den 
niedrigen insbesondere bei höheren Breiten schon - im 
Standardausschnitt auf osm.org (5/51.500/-0.100) variiert das schon im 
Verhältnis von etwa 1:1.8 (siehe 
http://maps.imagico.de/#map=5/51.500/-0.100ui=10)

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[Talk-de] RadioOSM: OSMF-Abstimmung über Amtszeitbeschränkung

2014-12-06 Thread mazdermind
Hallo liebe OpenStreetMapper,
die neuste Folge von RadioOSM - OSMF-Abstimmung über Amtszeitbeschränkung - ist 
verfügbar und sollte in Kürze in euren Podcatchern auftauchen.
Natürlich könnt ihr diese Folge auch in unserem Blog hören: 
http://ift.tt/1vZcZBH
Dort findet ihr auch Links zu allen Themen, über die wir gespochen haben.
Viel Spaß damit und Liebe Grüße,
euer RadioOSM Team
- Andi, Marc und Michael
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[Talk-it] Aiuto con Overpass Turbo

2014-12-06 Thread Volker Schmidt
Come si formula la ricerca per

   tutti ways con railway=abandoned che sono senza tag highway=*

Deve essere semplice, ma io sono stupido
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Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto con Overpass Turbo

2014-12-06 Thread Mauro Costantini
Il 6 dicembre 2014 10:14, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 Come si formula la ricerca per
 tutti ways con railway=abandoned che sono senza tag highway=*

Nel wizard basta scrivere
railway=abandoned and highway!=*
È molto lento, deve esistere un sistema computazionamente meno orrendo
del mio ma non mi viene in mente.
Su aree piccole fa comunque il suo dovere.

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Re: [Talk-it] Mancanza attribuzione

2014-12-06 Thread Volker Schmidt
Nel Padovano i POI sono OSM, ma non solo, *anche tutte le ferrovie
abbandonate che non coincidono con un highway=**
Per esempio c'è tutta la ex-ferrovia Ostiglia-Treviso a sud-ovest di
Grisignano di Zocco (non visibili in Mapnik).
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=45.4906mlon=11.6925#map=15/45.4906/11.6925layers=D
I binari delle ferrovie attive non sono copiate.
Che facciamo? Andiamo da Carabinieri e facciamo denuncia di furto di
proprietà intelletuale?
:-)
Seriamente, dobbiamo fare una cosa più formale. Adesso che abbiamo un
chapter italiano di OSMF non possiamo utilizzare questo per un approccio
gentile ma chiaro a questi casi? Che ne dici, Simone? Lettera standard per
tutti questi casi?

Volker


Il giorno 6 dicembre 2014 00:17, Gianluca Boero gianlucabo...@alice.it ha
scritto:

 Confermo anche io nel torinese...i Poi e i nomi dei luoghi sono di Osm, la
 rete viaria e l'uso del terreno no


 Il 12/05/2014 10:39 PM, Alessandro ha scritto:

  Il 05/12/2014 21:29, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto:


 La rete viaria non mi sembra di OSM, i POI e i nomi dei luoghi invece sì.


 A Genova i POI sono di OSM al 100%

 Ora abbiamo veramente oltrepassato il limite. Che facciamo stavolta?
 Zitti e mosca come al solito???

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Re: [Talk-it] Il fiume Olona lungo la circonvallazione milanese

2014-12-06 Thread Mauro Costantini
 Il 5 dicembre 2014 21:21, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it ha scritto:
 Ho notato che col nuovo rendering o forse a seguito di interventi sui dati
 conseguenti le recenti inondazioni milanesi,
La way http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/70585878 ha almeno 4 anni.

 che a zoom abbastanza bassi
 appare la label Fiume Olona lungo la circonvallazione esterna di Milano.
 Tutto cio' e' molto bello ma forse un po' fuorviante visto che da quelle
 parti il fiume non vede la luce del sole da almeno 40 anni.
Embè? Se l'acqua esiste è bene che ci sia nel database. Poi è scelta
di chi fa il render scegliere cosa visualizzare e cosa no.

 Cosa fare?
Secondo me, assolutamente nulla (se i dati sono corretti).

Il 6 dicembre 2014 01:00, pjhooker lima.cityplan...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 In teoria c'è sotto ... me lo sono chiesto anche io... Forse si può mettere
 con layer -100?
No. Al massimo i layer vanno da -5 a +5. Hanno un significato
*esclusivamente* locale e *non* indicano se quella risorsa è sopra o
sotto il livello medio del suolo.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:layer
Per controllare eventuali problemi sui layer e waterway raccomando un
software di quality assurance. Ad esempio qui
http://keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=13lat=45.48012lon=9.13673layers=B0Tch=0%2C120%2C192%2C193%2C194%2C197%2C198%2C231%2C232show_ign=1show_tmpign=1

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Re: [Talk-it] Il fiume Olona lungo la circonvallazione milanese

2014-12-06 Thread emmexx

Il 12/06/2014 11:10 AM, Mauro Costantini scrisse:

Embè? Se l'acqua esiste è bene che ci sia nel database. Poi è scelta
di chi fa il render scegliere cosa visualizzare e cosa no.




Secondo me, assolutamente nulla (se i dati sono corretti).


Cioe' secondo te e' normale che si veda prioritariamente sulla mappa il 
nome di un torrentello, coperto da anni, al posto di una strada a 6 
corsie larga 30 metri piu' una sopraelevata a 4 corsie?


ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Il fiume Olona lungo la circonvallazione milanese

2014-12-06 Thread Volker Schmidt
Per me sembra tutto apposto.
E' rappresentato tratteggiato, cioè come tunnel. Di quello che ho capito
questo corrisponde alla situazione reale.
E' discutibile se non cambiarlo da tunnel a culvert, ma del resto mi sembra
apposto.
Se fosse una strada al posto del fiume, andrebbe rappresentata anche questo
tratteggiata

Volker

Il giorno 5 dicembre 2014 21:21, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it ha scritto:

 Ho notato che col nuovo rendering o forse a seguito di interventi sui dati
 conseguenti le recenti inondazioni milanesi, che a zoom abbastanza bassi
 appare la label Fiume Olona lungo la circonvallazione esterna di Milano.
 Tutto cio' e' molto bello ma forse un po' fuorviante visto che da quelle
 parti il fiume non vede la luce del sole da almeno 40 anni.

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=45.4829mlon=9.1432#map=
 15/45.4829/9.1432

 Cosa fare?

 grazie
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Re: [Talk-it] Il fiume Olona lungo la circonvallazione milanese

2014-12-06 Thread emmexx

Il 12/06/2014 11:17 AM, Volker Schmidt scrisse:

Per me sembra tutto apposto.
E' rappresentato tratteggiato, cioè come tunnel. Di quello che ho capito
questo corrisponde alla situazione reale.
E' discutibile se non cambiarlo da tunnel a culvert, ma del resto mi
sembra apposto.
Se fosse una strada al posto del fiume, andrebbe rappresentata anche
questo tratteggiata


A volte e' veramente difficile discutere qui... :-(

Se a qualcuno sembra normale che in un posto come questo
https://www.google.it/maps/@45.4828654,9.1432725,3a,75y,355.95h,89.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s1M-80ljXgz-zjGuKR9-QoA!2e0

sia normale vedere scritto Fiume Olona, mi sa che ho sbagliato mappa.

http://www.emmexx.it/varie/osm(olona.jpg

ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Mancanza attribuzione

2014-12-06 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
Mah .. io la metterei su
La sai l'ultima sui carabinieri? Guarda qua! Violano la licenza di osm.
A chi mi rivolgo ora? Polizia postale?


2014-12-06 10:37 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com:
 Nel Padovano i POI sono OSM, ma non solo, anche tutte le ferrovie
 abbandonate che non coincidono con un highway=*
 Per esempio c'è tutta la ex-ferrovia Ostiglia-Treviso a sud-ovest di
 Grisignano di Zocco (non visibili in Mapnik).
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=45.4906mlon=11.6925#map=15/45.4906/11.6925layers=D
 I binari delle ferrovie attive non sono copiate.
 Che facciamo? Andiamo da Carabinieri e facciamo denuncia di furto di
 proprietà intelletuale?
 :-)
 Seriamente, dobbiamo fare una cosa più formale. Adesso che abbiamo un
 chapter italiano di OSMF non possiamo utilizzare questo per un approccio
 gentile ma chiaro a questi casi? Che ne dici, Simone? Lettera standard per
 tutti questi casi?

 Volker


 Il giorno 6 dicembre 2014 00:17, Gianluca Boero gianlucabo...@alice.it ha
 scritto:

 Confermo anche io nel torinese...i Poi e i nomi dei luoghi sono di Osm, la
 rete viaria e l'uso del terreno no


 Il 12/05/2014 10:39 PM, Alessandro ha scritto:

 Il 05/12/2014 21:29, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto:


 La rete viaria non mi sembra di OSM, i POI e i nomi dei luoghi invece
 sì.


 A Genova i POI sono di OSM al 100%

 Ora abbiamo veramente oltrepassato il limite. Che facciamo stavolta?
 Zitti e mosca come al solito???

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Re: [Talk-it] Il fiume Olona lungo la circonvallazione milanese

2014-12-06 Thread Alessandro Rubini
 Se a qualcuno sembra normale che in un posto come questo sia normale
 vedere scritto Fiume Olona, mi sa che ho sbagliato mappa.

Non e` normale, ma quello che si e` detto in lista e` che il database
e` corretto, il problema e` solo di rendering.  Quindi va corretto il
rendering, non il database.  E il rendering ha un tot di problemi
anche peggiori (come il database, ma comunque almeno in italia questo
database e questo rendering sono gia` molto ma molto meglio delle
alternative).

La mappa perfetta non esiste, in ogni caso, anche perche` ognuno ha le
sue preferenze.  E questo problema non mi sembra gravissimo. A livelli
di zoom sufficienti i nomi delle strade appaiono eccome, come tutte le
altre informazioni di contorno.


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Re: [Talk-it] Il fiume Olona lungo la circonvallazione milanese

2014-12-06 Thread Volker Schmidt
E' discutibile per tutte le cose sotterranee. Lì vicino c'è anche un
attraversamento sotterraneo della metro con questo fiume:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=45.4829mlon=9.1432#map=18/45.48637/9.13585
Probabilmente uno dice; metro si,  ma non il fiume!. Io, da tedesco
forse, dico: entrambi si, se tratteggiati.
E' tutto opinabile.



Il giorno 6 dicembre 2014 11:27, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it ha scritto:

 Il 12/06/2014 11:17 AM, Volker Schmidt scrisse:

 Per me sembra tutto apposto.
 E' rappresentato tratteggiato, cioè come tunnel. Di quello che ho capito
 questo corrisponde alla situazione reale.
 E' discutibile se non cambiarlo da tunnel a culvert, ma del resto mi
 sembra apposto.
 Se fosse una strada al posto del fiume, andrebbe rappresentata anche
 questo tratteggiata


 A volte e' veramente difficile discutere qui... :-(

 Se a qualcuno sembra normale che in un posto come questo
 https://www.google.it/maps/@45.4828654,9.1432725,3a,75y,
 355.95h,89.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s1M-80ljXgz-zjGuKR9-QoA!2e0

 sia normale vedere scritto Fiume Olona, mi sa che ho sbagliato mappa.

 http://www.emmexx.it/varie/osm(olona.jpg

 ciao

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Re: [Talk-it] Il fiume Olona lungo la circonvallazione milanese

2014-12-06 Thread Mauro Costantini
Il 6 dicembre 2014 11:16, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it ha scritto:
 Cioe' secondo te e' normale che si veda prioritariamente sulla mappa il nome
 di un torrentello, coperto da anni, al posto di una strada a 6 corsie larga
 30 metri piu' una sopraelevata a 4 corsie?
Ovviamente no.
Ma la strada (ad esempio questa
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/285081332 ) su osm non è larga 30
metri ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:width ), non è
sopraelevata (forse https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge ma
anche altre chiavi possono tornar utili) e non ha indicazioni di
corsie ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lanes ).
Un renderer, per decidere cosa mostrare e cosa no, è ragionevole che
veda cosa sta intorno, se intorno non trova dati non può certo
inventarseli.

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Re: [Talk-it] Mancanza attribuzione

2014-12-06 Thread Marcello

Il 06/12/2014 10:37, Volker Schmidt ha scritto:
 Che facciamo? Andiamo da Carabinieri e facciamo denuncia di furto di
 proprietà intelletuale?
 :-)

No, dal sito stesso si può fare la denuncia via web :-)

Confermo che i POI rappresentati e la posizione dei nomi dei luoghi
hanno chiara provenienza da OSM, anche i landuse e i corsi d'acqua, ma
sembrano dati vecchi di mesi.

Nella mia città ho mappato il loro Comando di Compagnia, ma nella loro
mappa mettono il comando di compagnia a 200m dalla posizione reale e una
stazione carabinieri inesistente a 150m dalla posizione reale, almeno
copiassero bene!

Ciao
Marcello

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Re: [Talk-it] Mancanza attribuzione

2014-12-06 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Giusto tre giorni fa mi hanno fermato, adducendo che la mia vecchia targa
aveva perso la rifrangenza, minacciandomi il sequestro dell'auto: ora posso
rispondere con la stessa minaccia, con l'aggravante che rispetto alla
targa, l'attribuzione non si vede proprio!

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Syncthing Node ID
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 Il 05/dic/2014 20:37 Hartman sldr.hart...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 Se non sbaglio queste sono mappe osm...

 http://www.carabinieri.it/cittadino/informazioni/dove-siamo



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Re: [Talk-it] Il fiume Olona lungo la circonvallazione milanese

2014-12-06 Thread Mauro Costantini
Il 5 dicembre 2014 21:21, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it ha scritto:
 Tutto cio' e' molto bello ma forse un po' fuorviante visto che da quelle
 parti il fiume non vede la luce del sole da almeno 40 anni.

Potrebbe essere utile indicare esplicitamente che è una way sotterranea.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:location
Non è in contrasto nè con tunnel/culvert (che esprimono
caratteristiche costruttive dell'oggetto) nè con i layers (che ne
definiscono localmente la sovrapposizione verticale).

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[Talk-it] Tag per CAF?

2014-12-06 Thread John Doe
È adatto per definire un centro di assistenza fiscale il tag
office:accountant?
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Re: [Talk-it] Mancanza attribuzione

2014-12-06 Thread Simone Cortesi
2014-12-05 22:39 GMT+01:00 Alessandro ale_z...@libero.it:
 Il 05/12/2014 21:29, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto:


 La rete viaria non mi sembra di OSM, i POI e i nomi dei luoghi invece sì.


 A Genova i POI sono di OSM al 100%

 Ora abbiamo veramente oltrepassato il limite. Che facciamo stavolta? Zitti e
 mosca come al solito???

Oggi ho provato a telefonare all'ufficio PR che cestisce il sito web,
ovviamente essendo sabato non ha risposto nessuno. Riprovero' lunedi'.

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Re: [Talk-it] Mancanza attribuzione

2014-12-06 Thread Max1234Ita
Marcello Arcangeli wrote
 Il 06/12/2014 10:37, Volker Schmidt ha scritto:
 Che facciamo? Andiamo da Carabinieri e facciamo denuncia di furto di
 proprietà intelletuale?
 :-)

 No, dal sito stesso si può fare la denuncia via web :-)

Ufficio Relazioni con il Pubblico mi pare più appropriato...
Comunque nella mia città la caserma l'hanno piazzata al posto giusto...
l'avevo indicata con un PDI su OSM!

Mi chiedo se OSM non possa pensare di aggiungere alle immagini che rilascia
come tile (almeno a quelle) un watermark, un po' come fa Google: non puoi
muoverti di mezza schermata senza imbatterti in un Google stampigliato da
qualche parte sullo sfondo...


Ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] Mancanza attribuzione

2014-12-06 Thread Francesco Pelullo
Il 06/dic/2014 23:55 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto:


 Oggi ho provato a telefonare all'ufficio PR che cestisce il sito web,
 ovviamente essendo sabato non ha risposto nessuno. Riprovero' lunedi'.

Meglio aspettare a martedì...

Vorrei dire solo una cosa.
I Carabinieri presumibilmente ignorano tutti 'sti problemi di licenze.
Probabilmente ignorano l'esistenza del loro stesso sito web.
Anche in questo caso l'inghippo è quasi sicuramente legato ai casini di
qualche società appaltatrice.

Se si trattasse di Sogei, allora ci sarebbe da ridere.

Ciao
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[Talk-it] Conversione Coordinate Geografiche

2014-12-06 Thread Pratosmart
Ciao a tutti…
nel sito degli opendata della regione Toscana ci sono dei dataset che hanno 
coordinate geografiche che indicano NORD e EST ad esempio

http://mappe.regione.toscana.it/db-webgis/luoghispettacolo/example_postgis.jsp?format=csv
 
http://%20http//mappe.regione.toscana.it/db-webgis/luoghispettacolo/example_postgis.jsp?format=csv

come si traducono in lat e long, in modo da poterli definire su OSM?

Grazie!

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Re: [Talk-se] Min första ändring, några kommentarer?

2014-12-06 Thread Per Eric Rosén

On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, Erik Lundin wrote:

Det kan vara så för att webbläsaren har en gammal cache av de delarna av 
kartan. Testa att ladda om hårt (i Firefox är trycker man control-shift-r).


Det är inte bara webbläsaren som har ett cache, utan även de servrar som 
gör kartbilderna (png-bilder) som används på openstreetmap.org osv.


Att parken visas direkt i zoom 19 är troligen för att de flesta servrar 
inte orkar cacha eller för-rita så inzoomade bilder efersom de efterfrågas 
sällan och skulle ta mycket plats att spara. I zoom 18 fanns det 
uppenbarligen rätt ny-renderade kartbilder som visas i stället för att 
göra ny från databasen. De flesta kart-servrar sparar bilder 1-7 dagar, så 
om en vecka borde i alla fall din park synas i fler zoomnivåer på alla 
lager (prova mapnik, cykelkarta, kollektivtrafik osv).


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Re: [Talk-cz] Osmose Česká republika

2014-12-06 Thread Kašpárek Tomáš

Cituji Kasparek Tomas kaspa...@fit.vutbr.cz:


Uz se to rozjelo, jeste se budou ladit veci, ale:
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/errors/?country=czech_republic_*


Zamest si pred vlastnim prahem:

http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/cs/byuser/tkk

Moc fajn ;-)

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Re: [Talk-cz] Osmose Česká republika

2014-12-06 Thread Marián Kyral
Škoda, myslel jsem, ze uděláme soutěž, ale píše mi to jen: Vice než 500 :-)

A co jsem koukal, hodně to byly chybějící mosty na cestách.

Marián

6. prosince 2014 16:51:18 SEČ, Kašpárek Tomáš kaspa...@fit.vutbr.cz napsal:
Cituji Kasparek Tomas kaspa...@fit.vutbr.cz:

 Uz se to rozjelo, jeste se budou ladit veci, ale:
 http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/errors/?country=czech_republic_*

Zamest si pred vlastnim prahem:

http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/cs/byuser/tkk

Moc fajn ;-)

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[OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [Hot-francophone] Le mapathon ouest-africain a débuté !!

2014-12-06 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton



 Message transféré 
Sujet : [Hot-francophone] Le mapathon ouest-africain a débuté !!
Date :  Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:16:02 +
De :Augustin Doury augustindo...@gmail.com
Pour :  hot-francoph...@openstreetmap.org
hot-francoph...@openstreetmap.org



Bonjour à tous,

Après plusieurs jours de coordination à distance au sein de différentes
communautés OSM africaines du projet Espace OSM Francophone, le grand
jour est arrivé ! Ce Samedi 6 Décembre c’est un nouveau mapathon
ouest-africain qui démarre: depuis le Bénin, le Burkina-Faso, la Côte
d’Ivoire, le Sénégal, le Niger et le Togo, de nombreux mappers des
comunautés OSM locales traceront routes, cours d'eau, zones
résidentielles et principaux immeubles du Sud de Bamako, Mali.
Mapathon en continuité réponse Ebola + préparation déploiement Mali
ProjetEOF (7-21Dèc) + soutien au lancement de The Missing Maps Project à
Paris aujourd'hui.

Nicolas Chavent et Awa Dia sont à Paris pour représenter ProjetEOF et
OSM Sénégal.

Pour nous rejoindre :

Tâche #794 du Gestionnaire de Tâches : http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/794).
Commentaire pour chaque envoi de données :*#hotosm-task-794 ;
#projeteof-mali

*
Un chat IRC débute ici pour coordination :
1) aller sur http://webchat.freenode.net/
2) choisissez un pseudo Nickname
3) indiquer #mapathoneof dans Channel
4) saisissez la CAPTCHA
5) appuyez sur Connect

Un billet de blog en cours de rédaction pour projeteof.org
http://projeteof.org, sera relayé dès que publié.

gus


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[OSM-talk-fr] Lancement Missing Maps - Paris, à Montreuil aujourd'hui 14 h

2014-12-06 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Bonjour,

Je ne retrouve pas de mention du lancement du projet Missing Maps à
Paris aujourd'hui sur la liste.

Cartopartie à Montreuil à 14 h aujourd'hui:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1748056948752691/?ref=22

Bien cordialement,

Jean-Guilhem

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[OSM-talk-fr] Maison de santé

2014-12-06 Thread Yves Pratter
Bonjour,

Une maison de santé vient d’ouvrir dans ma région. Quels attributs utiliser ?

Il existe une discussion de mai 2010 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2010-May/021835.html sur 
les maisons de retraites :
 je viens de trouver sur
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Special_Phrases 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Special_Phrases

   Maison de retraite: (amenity=retirement_home)
   Maison de santé: (amenity=nursing_home)
Hors amenity=nursing_home 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=nursing_home décrit une maison 
de retraite médicalisé, pas un cabinet infirmier ni une maison de santé ;-)

Une petite recherche avec Nominatim renvoi ceci :
building=yes (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/139471431 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/139471431) il y en a beaucoup mais ce n’est 
pas suffisant.
building=civic (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/277479886 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/277479886) ??
amenity=hospital (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/253184040 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/253184040) mais ce n’est pas ça
amenity=clinic (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/208554059 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/208554059) non
amenity=nursing_home (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/268413745 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/268413745) pas du tout (ça doit être 
l’exemple de la maison de retraite. La traduction dans nominatim/osm est Soins 
infirmiers” !)

amenity=doctors (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/148135789 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/148135789) on se rapproche mais ce n’est pas 
encore ça
amenity=dentist (http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1409068528 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1409068528) bien comme docteurs, mais 
incomplet
office=physician (http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2800705715 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2800705715) bureau de médecin, bof (c’est 
iD qui propose ça ? 
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=physician#projects 
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=physician#projects)

building=healthcare ± health_facility:type=health_centre (OSM affiche ça comme 
une “maison” http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/304800741 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/304800741)

Le dernier semble bien mais comment est-il géré par les moteurs de recherche, 
de rendu (OSM France au hasard) et les éditeurs ??
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model#Health_Facility
 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model#Health_Facility
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0

Un rapide coup d’œil sur la proposition indique qu’on pourrait / devrait ? 
utiliser health_facility:type=office avec health_person:type= physician; 
psychologist;nurse;… sauf que ce champ n’a pas l’air d’accepter des valeurs 
multiples.

Avez-vous des idées sur la question ?

—
Yves

Requête overpass http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/6oU 
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/6oU utilisant une expression rationnelle 
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[OSM-talk-fr] Ouistreham Riva-Bella

2014-12-06 Thread Stéphane Péneau
Un article du monde.fr traite de la tentative de changement de nom de 
Ouistreham, pour Ouistreham Riva-Bella
Les panneaux ont l'air d'être installés, mais le nouveau toponyme n'est 
pas encore officiel.


On fait quoi ? Un alt_name=Ouistreham Riva-Bella en attendant ?

http://www.lemonde.fr/m-actu/article/2014/12/06/pour-son-renom-ouistreham-veut-changer-de-nom_4534240_4497186.html

Stf

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[OSM-talk-fr] Nouvelle analyse Osmose d'intégration des codes postaux

2014-12-06 Thread Frédéric Rodrigo

Bonjour,

Suite à la libération du lien entre codes postaux et les codes INSEE 
j'ai pu ajouter un analyse Osmose pour détecter les manques et faire des 
proposition d'ajouts.


http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/#item=7160
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/#item=8221

Note: cette analyse est basé sur la tag addr:postcode, que je considère 
pour ma part comme n'étant pas le bon. Selon moi on devrait utiliser 
postal_code pour les surfaces de code postaux. Voir mon mail sur talk-fr 
De l'usage des tags postal_code addr:postcode qui n'a soulevait aucun 
intérêt.


Frédéric.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] site web openstreetmap.fr et sa page comment contribuer

2014-12-06 Thread Félix Marty
Bonsoir,

Cette page actuelle (http://openstreetmap.fr/contribuer) ne reflète pas 
vraiment comment contribuer. Dans le sens où des articles tels que Plus de 
2000 menhirs cartographiés à Carnac, Projet du mois autour des tags 
wikipédia, ou encore Nouveaux contributeurs grâce au Dessous des Cartes 
n'ont, je pense, pas leur place sur cette page, car ils ne décrivent pas 
comment contribuer.
Car c'est je pense l'intérêt de cette page, uniquement le comment contribuer. 
Le reste devrait de mon point de vue être décrit sur les autres onglets du 
site (Le projet, Réutiliser, Actualités, etc.).
Donc il faudrait je pense soit déplacer les articles cités ci-dessus tout en 
laissant les autres qui peuvent être intéressant pour la contribution, soit 
remplacer la page par un unique article dont il est question sur ce fil.


 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:34:21 +0100
 From: stephane.pen...@wanadoo.fr
 To: talk-fr@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] site web openstreetmap.fr et sa page comment  
 contribuer
 
 Salut,
 
 Le dimanche 16 novembre 2014 21:23:57, Félix Marty a écrit :
  Il serait à mon sens plus intéressant et plus simple que la page
  comment contribuer en création remplace celle-ci :
  http://openstreetmap.fr/contribuer
 
 Pour quelle raison ?
 
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[OSM-talk-fr] Besoin d'aide pour faire avancer Switch2OSM en français

2014-12-06 Thread Thomas Gratier
Bonsoir,

J'ai fini de traduire Switch2osm il y a quelques mois cf
http://switch2osm.org/fr/
Il me reste deux problèmes techniques:
* le menu déroulant pour passer d'une langue à l'autre a un bug
* le menu n'est pas traduit donc ce n'est pas très pratique pour naviguer:
il faut aller sur chaque page puis choisir la langue fr...


Pour donner le contexte, sur Switch2osm, Richard Fairhurst gère la partie
éditoriale mais n'a plus aucun droit pour modifier le code (il l'a
rétrocédé à la fondation).
C'est donc la fondation OSM qui s'en s'occupe. Mon contact technique est
l'un de ses admin mais je préfère éviter d'être nomitatif. Le but pour moi
est d'avancer pas de faire l'inquisition, sachant que chacun a ses
obligations et souvent contribue en dehors de ses horaires pro.

Pour les deux points, j'ai envoyé et relancé deux fois depuis Début Octobre.

Pour le point 1, j'avais fourni la correction à effectuer côté css en
enlevant dans .widget { ...}, la partie overflow: hidden

Pour le point 2, cet extrait de mail en anglais résume ma proposition:
contribuer mais le dépôt n'est pas public


Although my last email is due to the langage bar for the French
translation, it bothers me that the main menu bar is not in French too.
Because I'm a developer, I can make code changes. For this purpose, can I
have access to the code repo(s) for the switch2osm website?
I've already found the various private git repo e.g
https://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/chef/cookbooks/switch2osm/recipes/default.rb?order=name
but with no luck to clone.
I would need the wordpress template code and the list of languages plugins
installed to reproduce the environment on my own machine.
Another solution would be to make the switch2osm code repo public on Github
or somewhere else if nothing sensitive?


J'aimerais que ça avance et je commence à perdre patience...
Des avis, des conseils pour cela?

Merci

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[OSM-talk-fr] BANO FANTOIR : Libellé dans la couche Bano absent de la liste FANTOIR

2014-12-06 Thread Yves Pratter
Bonjour,

Il semble s’agir d’une adresse (n° 11 Amancey) avec le nom de la ville : 
25015B002M
http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/~cquest/leaflet/bano.html#19/47.03626/6.07259 
http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/~cquest/leaflet/bano.html#19/47.03626/6.07259

Et rien ici :
http://cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/#insee=25015 
http://cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/#insee=25015

Bon dimanche,

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Re: [OSM-ja] 鯖江市の都市計画図が CC BY で公開されました。

2014-12-06 Thread Satoshi IIDA
いいだです。

作業ありがとうございます、
おおむね、よいかんじのように思います。
(英語だと、もうちょい手順を細かく書け、
といわれるかもしれませんが)

あと、サンプルのファイル名を見ると
対象が普通建物(3001)のみ、ということのようなのですが、
堅牢建物(3002)なども同様の作業をする、ということでよいですよね?


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[Talk-GB] Update to Freemap

2014-12-06 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone,


Would just like to announce an update to Freemap, my site for showing 
walking-orientated maps of OSM data in England and Wales

(http://www.free-map.org.uk).


It's still using Kothic JS as it has been for some time now, but now uses 
Leaflet.draw for adding annotations and walking routes, resulting in a 
(hopefully) more user friendly UI.


*Please do note* that this is a project I work on in my own time, so I don't 
necessarily have the time to make it completely slick and professional, also do 
note that the use of client side rendering can mean that the maps can be slow 
to render if you haven't visited that area before. It isn't intended to be the 
best mapping site out there... it is just a hobbyist project!


On Chrome on Windows, rendering actually seems slower now than a year or two 
ago (not sure if this is chrome or the new version of Kothic) while Firefox and 
IE seem to be quicker.

Does this sound familiar to anyone else using kothic-js?


If you have previously registered, please note you need to re-register as I 
have upgraded the login system to use PHP's native password functions rather 
than the (now regarded as insecure) sha1.


I'm hoping to also make it properly mobile-friendly in the next couple of weeks.


Source code at https://github.com/nickw1/Freemap

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Re: [Talk-GB] Update to Freemap

2014-12-06 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Oops... just noticed a somewhat inaccurate statement.Just to clarify:


also do note that the use of client side rendering can mean that the maps can 
be slow to render if you haven't visited that area before. 


This isn't actually due to the client-side rendering, it's due to the process 
of generating the geojson from the server. Server side caching of geojson means 
that it's significantly quicker when you visit an area the second time.


Nick?

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[Talk-GB] Signup bug corrected (Re: Update to Freemap)

2014-12-06 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi,


Sorry - a couple of people pointed out an error in the sign up link, which I 
thought I'd removed.

If you were having problems signing up, try again now - it should work.


Thanks,

Nick



From: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk
Sent: 06 December 2014 11:08
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] Update to Freemap


Hello everyone,


Would just like to announce an update to Freemap, my site for showing 
walking-orientated maps of OSM data in England and Wales

(http://www.free-map.org.uk).


It's still using Kothic JS as it has been for some time now, but now uses 
Leaflet.draw for adding annotations and walking routes, resulting in a 
(hopefully) more user friendly UI.


*Please do note* that this is a project I work on in my own time, so I don't 
necessarily have the time to make it completely slick and professional, also do 
note that the use of client side rendering can mean that the maps can be slow 
to render if you haven't visited that area before. It isn't intended to be the 
best mapping site out there... it is just a hobbyist project!


On Chrome on Windows, rendering actually seems slower now than a year or two 
ago (not sure if this is chrome or the new version of Kothic) while Firefox and 
IE seem to be quicker.

Does this sound familiar to anyone else using kothic-js?


If you have previously registered, please note you need to re-register as I 
have upgraded the login system to use PHP's native password functions rather 
than the (now regarded as insecure) sha1.


I'm hoping to also make it properly mobile-friendly in the next couple of weeks.


Source code at https://github.com/nickw1/Freemap

[https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/585388?v=3s=400]https://github.com/nickw1/Freemap

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Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim address lookup

2014-12-06 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Sat, Dec 06, 2014 at 01:11:28AM -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:
 Is it just me or did Nominatim stop checking an external database for
 address lookups where in-DB addresses aren't available in the US?

It never checked any external databases, it just uses house numbers
from Tiger where they are missing in OSM. That means that the address
down to street level still needs to be in OSM or the search fails.

Nothing about that has changed in the last two years or so (although
there was a Tiger data outage last weekend but we have been back to normal
since Monday)

Any partucular address you cannot find anymore?

Sarah

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