Re: [Talk-it] codice fiscale

[Damjan Gerl]

24.11.2015 - 15:56 - demon.box:

ciao, se devo taggare la partita iva di una attività commerciale uso

ref:vatin=IT***

ma se ho una associaziona onlus che ha soltanto il codice fiscale che tag
uso?

grazie

--enrico


Forse
ref:IT:CF=*

Ce ne sono solo 4 in taginfo...

Ciao
Damjan

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Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

[Dave Corley]

It's an open election, open to anyone to stand and open to anyone (members)
to vote for who they choose.

Not to be blunt, but if you don't like that, propose an amendment to the
governing rules which can be voted on.

In other words, to paraphrase the techies, patches welcome

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Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

[john whelan]

My personal view is it doesn't really matter.  It is an election as I
understand it so members do vote for whom they wish to represent them.
Perhaps a larger concern might be the concentration of board members from a
particular country or region.

Cheerio John

On 24 November 2015 at 18:01, nicolas chavent 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> Apologies for crosspostings, resending to talk an email sent to
> osmf-talk about the HOT US Inc presence at the Board of the OSMF.
>
> Best,
> Nicolas
>
>
> Dear OSMF voting members and mappers,
>
> This short note (also published in my diary [1]) to draw your
> attention on the danger for OSMF (and the OSM project) in the case the
> United States NGO "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team US Inc" (aka HOT US
> Inc) got a majority at the OSMF Board after this 2015 election.
>
> Mikel Maron, Joseph Reeves and Yantisa Akhadi, all members of the NGO
> HOT US Inc, are running for the OSMF Board [2]; Kate Chapman, the
> former ED of HOT US Inc serves already as Board Officer in OSMF.
>
> Shall Mikel Maron, Joseph Reeves and Yantisa Akhadi be elected, HOT US
> Inc will get a majority at the Board of the Foundation.
> This will provide a single organization of the OSM ecosystem (HOT US
> Inc) with an unprecedented and excessive power of influence over the
> Foundation.
>
> This running of three candidates from the same organization is
> puzzling and troublesome when one considers that HOT US Inc (and
> therefore its perspective around OpenStreetMap) is already represented
> at the OSMF Board since Sept 2013. Why extending its presence and
> influence and consequently diminishing the OSM diversity represented
> at the OSMF Board?
>
> A greater HOT US Inc presence at the OSMF Board would be a matter of
> concern in terms of :
> - balance of powers
> - diversity of visions, thoughts and practices around OSM
> - board dynamics: a collective of HOT US Inc Boardees would interact
> with single individuals.
> This is a bad practice which is not followed by any Organizations;
> this is specifically true for representative bodies (organization
> representing organizations) such as OSMF
>
> Here are some elements that OSMF voting members shall have in ming
> prior casting their ballot 28-Nov onwards bearing in minds that HOT US
> Inc and this perspective about OSM is already represented at the OSMF
> Board through Kate Chapman.
>
> The HOT US Inc perspective informs, like other perspectives, the work
> of the Foundation and has its effect on the OSM project, there is no
> need to take risks in providing this group with more room in the
> Foundation which is hot enough in these times of winter.
>
> Best,
> Nicolas
>
> [1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Nicolas Chavent/diary/36750
> [2]:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM15/Election_to_Board
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] UrbIS aerial pictures for Brussels on OSM - Vues aériennes UrbIS 2015 sur OSM

[André Pirard]

  
  
On 2015-11-24 22:11, Julien Fastré
  wrote :


  ...

Add the URL [1] in the required field, and click on "get the layers".
You will see all the layer available !

Choose your layer and give him a name.



On 2015-11-24 22:19, Julien Fastré
  wrote :


  Does someone have the power to do that ? For newbies (like the recet
message) it would be useful. We could also update the AGIV luchtfotos
link.


Agathe Thepower, but it's like setting a Rendez Vous without telling
where  ;-) 
Could you, or someone(s) who's used to use Urbis tell me what layers
they need.

It seems that "AGIV(laanderen) aerial imagery (covers Brussels
region as well)".
(to me, it seems that AGIV, URBIS and SPW use the same runs of
photos).
So, you don't need the URBIS photos, you use AGIS, right?

Regarding the digitalized tiles, there is B/W vs color and what they
call FR vs NL, which is not France vs Netherlands, but fr vs nl,
French vs Dutch.  So I make two versions, right?
Now there are a lot of optional, additional layers to choose.
Should I add them all, or is there anything annoying according to
your experience?

I think that I'll add everything. Anyone can remove anything he
wants from the command.

But, after all, the most simple would be to send me an URL you're
working with from the config.

What is there to change to AGIV?
Aren't there usable, digitalized pictures for Flanders as well?

Cheers



  

  André.

  



  


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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Alessandro]

Il 24/11/2015 23:07, Federico Cortese ha scritto:


Difficile credere che abbia commesso errori macroscopici, di solito è
lui che corregge gli errori ;)
Contattalo vedrai che ti deluciderà.



Basandosi su una carta del 2007 avrà trovato edifici che ora non 
esistono più, di solito in zone diventate commerciali con vecchi edifici 
sostituiti da nuove attività


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Re: [Talk-it] Parafarmacie

[Volker Schmidt]

Mi sembra che la voce "parmafarmacia" in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Glossario_OSM sia in ovvia
contraddizione con
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpharmacy.

Una parafarmacia in Italia è una "non-disponsing pharmacy" in termini di
tagging OSM.
Un chemist's (shop=chemist) è l'equivalente di una drogheria italiana. Per
essere precisi,  "chemist's" è il termine in Gran Bretagna, negli USA si
chiama "drugstore".
Bisogna correggere la voce "parmafarmacia" in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Glossario_OSM

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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Alessandro]

Il 24/11/2015 22:11, Andrea Solari ha scritto:


sai chi è  mcheckimport?
ha mappato in zona Quiliano con diversi errori macroscopici
indica come fonte Carta Tecnica Regionale 1:5000 dal 2007 - II Edizione
3D / DB Topografico

ciao
andrea


E' l'account che usa Marco, da me soprannominato Terminator :-) per gli 
import.

Mandagli un messaggio all'account mcheck e ti risponderà velocemente.

P.S.: ci si vede al MARC ;-)

Alessandro

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[Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Andrea Solari]

Quiliano (SV), Venerdi 11 dicembre ore 20,30
ore 20.30 - ingresso libero

OpenStreetMap

la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio
a cura di Davide Mangraviti - cartografo, volontario OpenStreetMap
introduce Andrea Solari: presidente Associazione Govonis

Programma:
Diffusione della cartografia su Internet
Cosa è OpenStreetMap
OpenStreetMap e il suo valore nella condivisione di cultura e conoscenza
del territorio
Esempi sul Comune di Quiliano e dintorni
Come partecipare e contribuire alla mappatura su OpenStreetMap
Impiego di app per smartphone come supporto cartografico ed orientamento

Sala Consiliare del Comune di Quiliano (Savona)
c/o biblioteca civica Andrea Aonzo

Piazza Costituzione

ore 20.30 - ingresso libero


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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Simone Cortesi]

2015-11-24 20:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Solari :
> Quiliano (SV), Venerdi 11 dicembre ore 20,30
> ore 20.30 - ingresso libero
>
> OpenStreetMap
>
> la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio
> a cura di Davide Mangraviti - cartografo, volontario OpenStreetMap
> introduce Andrea Solari: presidente Associazione Govonis
>
> Programma:
> Diffusione della cartografia su Internet
> Cosa è OpenStreetMap
> OpenStreetMap e il suo valore nella condivisione di cultura e conoscenza
> del territorio
> Esempi sul Comune di Quiliano e dintorni
> Come partecipare e contribuire alla mappatura su OpenStreetMap
> Impiego di app per smartphone come supporto cartografico ed orientamento
>
> Sala Consiliare del Comune di Quiliano (Savona)
> c/o biblioteca civica Andrea Aonzo
>
> Piazza Costituzione
>
> ore 20.30 - ingresso libero

ottimo! fa piacere vedere nuove iniziative locali.

consiglio di aggiungere l'evento anche qui:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events

fate poi sapere come è andata...

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Re: [Talk-cz] Mapy.IDNES.cz

[Marián Kyral]

Aha,
tak on je rozdíl cyklo a turistická mapa. U cyklo mapy ty vrstvy v menších 
městech nerenderují, u turistické ano,

Marián


-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Marián Kyral 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 24. 11. 2015 21:31:22
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Mapy.IDNES.cz

"
Ale jen ve městech. Pro menší obce už tyto vrstvy nerenderují.

Domnívám se, že data pocházejí odtud: http://www.cykloserver.cz/cykloatlas/
Taky tam mají v patičce openstreetmap, ale nerenderují ani menší města. Jen 
Praha, Brno, Ostrava, Olomouc...

Marián


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Od: Michal Pustějovský 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 24. 11. 2015 21:18:48
Předmět: [Talk-cz] Mapy.IDNES.cz

"
Jen pro zajímavost, mapy.idnes.cz(http://mapy.idnes.cz/) používají v ČR na 
vyšších zoomech podklady OSM.

Michal

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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Gianmario Mengozzi]

è l'account che l'utente https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mcheck utilizza
per gli import, se ricordo bene.

ciao
Gianmario

Il giorno 24 novembre 2015 22:11, Andrea Solari  ha
scritto:

> Il 24/11/2015 21:54, alessandro.pal...@wikimedia.it ha scritto:
> >
> >> Quiliano (SV), Venerdi 11 dicembre ore 20,30
> >> ore 20.30 - ingresso libero
> >>
> >> OpenStreetMap
> >>
> >
> > Ciao Andrea,
> > fa piacere vedere che qualcosa si muove anche nelle riviere :-)
>
> sai chi è  mcheckimport?
> ha mappato in zona Quiliano con diversi errori macroscopici
> indica come fonte Carta Tecnica Regionale 1:5000 dal 2007 - II Edizione
> 3D / DB Topografico
>
> ciao
> andrea
>
> >
> > Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT
> >
> >
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[Talk-cz] Mapy.IDNES.cz

[Michal Pustějovský]

Jen pro zajímavost, mapy.idnes.cz(http://mapy.idnes.cz/) používají v ČR na 
vyšších zoomech podklady OSM.

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Re: [Talk-it] Diminuzione Tag totali wikipedia

[Simone F.]

Il giorno 24 novembre 2015 11:25, Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Ho recentemente aggiunto una serie di tags wikipedia per ponti
> (man_made=bridge), ma nello stesso momento ho tolto dalle strade
> (highway=*, bridge=yes) gli stessi link wikipedia
>
...

> *vi pare la cosa giusta da fare*).
>

+1


> Queste operazioni difatto risultavano spesso in una riduzione di tags
> wikipedia (benché il numeri di tags univoci è rimasto uguale), perché si
> trattava spesso di più percorsi sullo stesso ponte (carreggiate divise,
> marciapiedi, ecc.).
>
> 
Confermo che il numero di tag "Totali" non tiene conto di quelli duplicati,
che comunque sarebbe meglio evitare.


Ciao,
Simone F.
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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Davide Mangraviti]

Bella iniziativa! 
Verrò sicuramente, dato che sto da quelle parti!  




Andrea Solari wrote
> Quiliano (SV), Venerdi 11 dicembre ore 20,30
> ore 20.30 - ingresso libero
> 
> OpenStreetMap
> 
> la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio
> a cura di Davide Mangraviti - cartografo, volontario OpenStreetMap
> introduce Andrea Solari: presidente Associazione Govonis
> 
> Programma:
> Diffusione della cartografia su Internet
> Cosa è OpenStreetMap
> OpenStreetMap e il suo valore nella condivisione di cultura e conoscenza
> del territorio
> Esempi sul Comune di Quiliano e dintorni
> Come partecipare e contribuire alla mappatura su OpenStreetMap
> Impiego di app per smartphone come supporto cartografico ed orientamento
> 
> Sala Consiliare del Comune di Quiliano (Savona)
> c/o biblioteca civica Andrea Aonzo
> 
> Piazza Costituzione
> 
> ore 20.30 - ingresso libero
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Packaging Urbis ortho by default in JOSM

[André Pirard]

On 2015-11-24 22:19, Julien Fastré wrote :
> Hi,
>
> I have read a message from Polyglot some months ago about adding some
> WMS services by default in JOSM.
You may also have read that, when the reprojection SPW bug was solved, I
added their servers (photos and PICC).
Since then, everything that was done during 5 years with a 2-5-10m+
precision can be redone with 20cm precision.
Doing so, you should not have a projections problem [MODE PRIVATE JOKE
ON] Hi Julien! [MODE PRIVATE JOKE OFF].
I have worked with JOSM to solve problems with SPW.
> Would it be possible to add the urbis ortho amongst those services ? I
> think we had to add the link into a CVS/Git repository, or something
> like that.
>
> Does someone have the power to do that ? For newbies (like the recet
> message) it would be useful. We could also update the AGIV luchtfotos
> link.
I will do that tonight.
[MODE PRIVATE JOKE ON] unless Jo picks my work again [MODE PRIVATE JOKE
OFF].

Cheers

André.


> More info about the WMS server from urbis :
>
> http://cirb.brussels/fr/nos-solutions/urbis-solutions/urbis-tools
>
> The WMS "get capabilities" link :
>
> http://geoserver.gis.irisnet.be/urbis/wms?service=wms=1.3.0=GetCapabilities
>
> Julien
>

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[Talk-it] Parafarmacie

[Federico Cortese]

Ciao a tutti,
vedo che nel glossario
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Glossario_OSM
alla voce Parafarmacia si suggerisce di usare shop=chemist, ma la cosa
non mi convince, perchè credo chemist sia più qualcosa del tipo "Acqua
& Sapone", che vende cosmetici e prodotti per l'igiene.
Per una parafarmacia cosa consigliereste di usare? Sempre amenity=pharmacy?
Il tag dispensing invece come si utilizza?
Grazie

Federico

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Re: [Talk-it] governo italiano

[Simone Cortesi]

2015-11-23 10:04 GMT+01:00 Luca Delucchi :
> magari qualcuno se l'è perso ;-)
>
> http://www.governo.it/mappa-del-presidente

messa in: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_image_proposals#italian_prime_minister_official_trips

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Re: [Talk-it] Diminuzione Tag totali wikipedia

[Simone F.]

Il giorno 24 novembre 2015 11:14, Luca Delucchi  ha
scritto:

> 2015-11-23 21:00 GMT+01:00 Simone F. :
>
> > Prova ad ... scaricare da
> > zero il pbf dell'Italia da Geofabrik.
> >
>
> fatto, ora dovrebbe essere a posto
>

Sì, mi sembra che i numeri siano tornati quelli di prima.


Ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] governo italiano

[danirijeka.list]

Qualcuno ha guardato Gazebo...  :)

Il 23/Nov/2015 14:03, "Daniele Forsi"  ha scritto:
>
> Il 23 novembre 2015 10:04, Luca Delucchi ha scritto:
>
> > magari qualcuno se l'è perso ;-)
>
> io sì :-) comunque visto che manca ancora l'immagine della settimana
> si può proporre questo?
>
> > http://www.governo.it/mappa-del-presidente
>
> e a proposito di immagini della settimana, vedo che le traduzioni sono
> rimaste indietro di mesi
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] UrbIS aerial pictures for Brussels on OSM - Vues aériennes UrbIS 2015 sur OSM

[Julien Fastré]

Hi Bruno,
Hi the list

You can add easily the WMS server of Urbis in JOSM.

In JOSM, press F12 (or Edition/Preferences) and choose WMS/TMS menu.

In the field "Fournisseurs actifs" (en français), click on the "+ WMS".
Add the URL [1] in the required field, and click on "get the layers".
You will see all the layer available !

Choose your layer and give him a name.

Open the main window with Brussels data, and click on "Imagerie". You
will see the new layer in the list: choose him. You will have a problem
with projections [MODE PRIVATE JOKE ON] Hi André! [MODE PRIVATE JOKE
OFF], click on "ok".

The image are very good !

Julien

[1]
http://geoserver.gis.irisnet.be/urbis/wms?service=wms=1.3.0=GetCapabilities

Le 24/11/15 12:50, Glenn Plas a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Bing is usually a bad idea to use as it has issues with offset at the
> deepest zoomlevels.   Especially when you use it to 'fix' existing
> buildings, you might find some community anger coming your way :)
> 
> You end up thinking all OSM Buildings are offset when they are not (if
> source=Bing, they probably are).
> 
> You can use AGIV for Brussels, it's much more accurate and should be the
> one to verify others.
> 
> The (new) link just passed on the list , sent by Stijn Rombauts
> 
> https://www.agiv.be/news/2015/november/webdiensten-grb-orthofotos-historische-kaarten-vernieuwd
> 
> Check out these links to get the idea how to add an AGIV layer:
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gilbert54/JOSM
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Using_AGIV_Crab_data/AGIV_Website_as_Reference
> 
> Glenn
> 
> 
> On 24-11-15 11:37, Bruno Veyckemans wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I became an enthusiastic OSM mapper following Julien Fastré's
>> presentation at Foss4G BE last month, and now have big projects to map
>> all I can in Brussels. 
>>
>> I focus on using Overpass / PHP to create listings and see what's
>> missing in the capital (museums, parks, churches, artwork,
>> hospitals...), such as: http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (website in
>> french, but I take care to add tags in FR/NL/EN... By the way, I would
>> be glad if some users helped to fill the blanks).
>>
>> My question is about OSM's Bing imagery. I know Brussels has beautiful
>> and precise 2015 aerial pictures thanks to UrbIS (see here:
>> http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ , ArcGIS server), but I don't know how to use
>> it in OSM to map Brussels (their 2015 WMS isn't yet available). Do you
>> think it's possible ?
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Bonjour à tous,
>>
>> Je suis devenu un "mapper" enthousiaste d'OSM à la suite de la
>> présentation de Julien Fastré au Foss4G BE le mois dernier, et j'ai
>> maintenant des projets assez ambitieux pour compléter tout ce que je
>> peux en Région bruxelloise.
>>
>> J'utilise Overpass et PHP pour générer des listes des infrastructures de
>> la capitale (musées, parcs, églises, oeuvres d'art, hôpitaux...) comme
>> celle-ci: http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (et je serais heureux si
>> certains se joignaient à moi pour compléter les tags manquants).
>>
>> Ma question porte sur les images satellites d'OSM, fournies par Bing. Je
>> sais que Bruxelles possède des images aériennes de 2015 beaucoup plus
>> belles et précises grâce à UrbIS (par exemple ici:
>> http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ ), mais je ne sais pas comment les utiliser
>> dans les outils d'édition d'OSM. Pensez-vous que ce soit possible ? J'ai
>> notamment envie de redessiner les chemins du Cimetière de Bruxelles,
>> parfaitement visibles sur BrugIS 2015 mais pas sur Bing, et d'y ajouter
>> ses tombes célèbres...
>>
>>
>> Merci/Thanks/Dank u et belle journée malgré le #BrusselsLockdown
>> Bruno - ici.Brussels
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Andrea Solari]

Il 24/11/2015 21:54, alessandro.pal...@wikimedia.it ha scritto:
> 
>> Quiliano (SV), Venerdi 11 dicembre ore 20,30
>> ore 20.30 - ingresso libero
>>
>> OpenStreetMap
>>
> 
> Ciao Andrea,
> fa piacere vedere che qualcosa si muove anche nelle riviere :-)

sai chi è  mcheckimport?
ha mappato in zona Quiliano con diversi errori macroscopici
indica come fonte Carta Tecnica Regionale 1:5000 dal 2007 - II Edizione
3D / DB Topografico

ciao
andrea

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Re: [Talk-it] Parafarmacie

[Any File]

2015-11-24 21:32 GMT+01:00 Federico Cortese :
> Per una parafarmacia cosa consigliereste di usare? Sempre amenity=pharmacy?
> Il tag dispensing invece come si utilizza?

Per una parafarmacia, se con questo termine intendi qualcosa di molto
simile ad una farmacia, ma che non vende prodotti con obbligo di
ricetta, userei amenity=pharmacy con dispensing=no

Se invece intendi un posto dove non vengono venduti neanche i farmaci
da banco allora forse shop=chemist è la scelta più opportuna (anche se
la pagina wiki su questo tag non mi entusiama, in alcuni punti mi pare
perfino contraddittoria).

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[OSM-talk-be] Packaging Urbis ortho by default in JOSM

[Julien Fastré]

Hi,

I have read a message from Polyglot some months ago about adding some
WMS services by default in JOSM.

Would it be possible to add the urbis ortho amongst those services ? I
think we had to add the link into a CVS/Git repository, or something
like that.

Does someone have the power to do that ? For newbies (like the recet
message) it would be useful. We could also update the AGIV luchtfotos
link.

More info about the WMS server from urbis :

http://cirb.brussels/fr/nos-solutions/urbis-solutions/urbis-tools

The WMS "get capabilities" link :

http://geoserver.gis.irisnet.be/urbis/wms?service=wms=1.3.0=GetCapabilities

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Re: [Talk-in] Adding missing towns and villages to OSM

[Aneesh T]

If you're interested in Karnataka.. The kpwd website has village names
which can be mapped out... As has been done by several contributors..
On 25 Nov 2015 1:04 p.m., "Jothirnadh Sai"  wrote:

> Dear OSM community,
>
> My name is Jothirnadh  and
> I recently entered the OSM community as a crowd mapper. I found that there
> are many unmapped towns and villages in India and on the process of finding
> ways to add them I wrote a OSM diary post
>  on explaining
> the ways to improve the data. It would be great to have more eyes on it and
> feedback from the OSM community on improvement of the missing towns and
> villages data on OSM.
>
> With Regards,
> JOTHIRNADH
> Open Data Analyst
> Mapbox, India
> Phn No.: +919490712829
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[Talk-es] Pequeñas modificaciones y adiciones a normalización (etiquetado) de carreteras en Galicia

[Rafael Avila Coya]

Hola a todos/as:

He estado repasando la clasificación de las carreteras de Galicia, y he
añadido alguna documentación de utilidad para la correcta clasificación
de las carreteras en mi comunidad autónoma.

La modificación más importante ha sido la de añadir que las carreteras
que se deben etiquetar como highway=tertiary (referencia con fondo
amarillo) son, no sólo las dependientes de las diputaciones provinciales
(EP-), sino que hay también carreteras autonómicas (AC-XXX, LU-XXX,
OU-XXX y PO-XXX) que tienen fondo amarillo y que están, obviamente,
catalogadas como "secundarias" en la correspondiente documentación
oficial [1]. Un ejemplo sería la PO-343

Si veis algo que no esté correcto o algo que se pueda añadir, avisad.

Aprovechando este email, veo que hay algunas comunidades autónomas (como
Illes Balears) que no tienen ningún apartado explicando sus
singularidades, en caso de que las haya, que es lo más probable.

Un saludo,

Rafael.

[1] www.xunta.es/dog/Publicados/2003/20030721/Anuncio151AA_es.html

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Re: [Talk-es] Pequeñas modificaciones y adiciones a normalización (etiquetado) de carreteras en Galicia

[Rafael Avila Coya]

Perdón:

Olvidaba decir que los cambios de los que hablo son en la wiki de
Normalización de mapeo en España, en el apartado de Galicia:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Normalizaci%C3%B3n#Galicia

Rafael Ávila Coya.

On 25/11/15 02:55, Rafael Avila Coya wrote:
> Hola a todos/as:
> 
> He estado repasando la clasificación de las carreteras de Galicia, y he
> añadido alguna documentación de utilidad para la correcta clasificación
> de las carreteras en mi comunidad autónoma.
> 
> La modificación más importante ha sido la de añadir que las carreteras
> que se deben etiquetar como highway=tertiary (referencia con fondo
> amarillo) son, no sólo las dependientes de las diputaciones provinciales
> (EP-), sino que hay también carreteras autonómicas (AC-XXX, LU-XXX,
> OU-XXX y PO-XXX) que tienen fondo amarillo y que están, obviamente,
> catalogadas como "secundarias" en la correspondiente documentación
> oficial [1]. Un ejemplo sería la PO-343
> 
> Si veis algo que no esté correcto o algo que se pueda añadir, avisad.
> 
> Aprovechando este email, veo que hay algunas comunidades autónomas (como
> Illes Balears) que no tienen ningún apartado explicando sus
> singularidades, en caso de que las haya, que es lo más probable.
> 
> Un saludo,
> 
> Rafael.
> 
> [1] www.xunta.es/dog/Publicados/2003/20030721/Anuncio151AA_es.html
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] UrbIS aerial pictures for Brussels on OSM - Vues aériennes UrbIS 2015 sur OSM

[André Pirard]

On 2015-11-25 00:12, André Pirard wrote :
> On 2015-11-24 22:11, Julien Fastré wrote :
>> ...
>>
>> Add the URL [1] in the required field, and click on "get the layers".
>> You will see all the layer available !
>>
>> Choose your layer and give him a name.
>
> On 2015-11-24 22:19, Julien Fastré wrote :
>> Does someone have the power to do that ? For newbies (like the recet
>> message) it would be useful. We could also update the AGIV luchtfotos
>> link.
> Agathe Thepower, but it's like setting a Rendez Vous without telling
> where ;-)
> Could you, or someone(s) who's used to use Urbis tell me what layers
> they need.
>
> It seems that "AGIV(laanderen) aerial imagery (covers Brussels region
> as well)".
> (to me, it seems that AGIV, URBIS and SPW use the same runs of photos).
> So, you don't need the URBIS photos, you use AGIS, right?
>
> Regarding the digitalized tiles, there is B/W vs color and what they
> call FR vs NL, which is not France vs Netherlands, but fr vs nl,
> French vs Dutch.  So I make two versions, right?
> Now there are a lot of optional, additional layers to choose.
> Should I add them all, or is there anything annoying according to your
> experience?
>
> I think that I'll add everything. Anyone can remove anything he wants
> from the command.
>
> But, after all, the most simple would be to send me an URL you're
> working with from the config.
>
> What is there to change to AGIV?
> Aren't there usable, digitalized pictures for Flanders as well?
>
> Cheers
>
> André.
>
>
I have added a, URBIS fr preset as I said: Base color fr + all optional
layers.
Yet a detail about bbox (boundaries) to fix.

Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select URBIS
fr>Activate>OK
Imagery>URBIS fr  and there should come your layer

The projection related message is new to JOSM, shouldn't exist (1) and
should  be avoidable.
I'll tell my JOSM friends about it.

Let me know if everything is right for you.
I first thought that this map was scanty, but I looked at their preview
and it seems it's what I must get.
Then will you want an URBIS nl?

I wanted to check the AGIV photos over Brussels, but they don't work.
Jo, the author, could you check what's going on there?
Please note that, for photos, you'd better use jpeg than bmp.

It would be better that Urbis supported the projection 3857 too.
Should I contact them to explain why? Who's best?

(1) JOSM underwent a drastic update two versions ago.
The WMS and TMS caches were unified and, at my and other's request, they
now support WMTS.
WMTS stresses the server less, is supported by URBIS and we should use it.
But it loops with URBIS. Yet another JOSM bug to report.
I'll let you know when this issue will be solved.

WMTS generally does not work with the SPW.
That is because, contrarily to what was said, it supports neither 4326
nor 3857.
I won't explain that all over again.
Please tell us when this issue will be fixed.   Hi Julien!


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[Talk-in] Adding missing towns and villages to OSM

[Jothirnadh Sai]

Dear OSM community,

My name is Jothirnadh  and I
recently entered the OSM community as a crowd mapper. I found that there
are many unmapped towns and villages in India and on the process of finding
ways to add them I wrote a OSM diary post
 on explaining
the ways to improve the data. It would be great to have more eyes on it and
feedback from the OSM community on improvement of the missing towns and
villages data on OSM.

With Regards,
JOTHIRNADH
Open Data Analyst
Mapbox, India
Phn No.: +919490712829
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Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: Roads in India: How complete is OpenStreetMap ?

[Nikhil Prabhakar]

Hi All,

We have posted a github ticket on our latest mapping project here
 as a part of  Expressway
improvement in OSM.
It would be great to to have more eyes on this to improve the process.

Regards,
Nikhil Prabhakar.



On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Naveen Francis  wrote:

> Hi Arun,
>
> We can keep urban roads and other dept roads
> (forest,irrigation,kseb,railway) in *Other Road*.
>
> In village road just panchayat road.
>
> Thanks,
> naveenpf.
>
> On 24 November 2015 at 16:40, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>
>> Naveen,
>>
>>> Village roads= Total road - ( PWD (R) [includes SHs + MDRs] + PWD (NH)
>>> )
>>>
>>>
>>> This should probably come under other roads rather than village roads
>> since it includes urban roads as well.
>>
>> The village roads could just be the panchayat roads.
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Newark on Trent mappers

[Christian Ledermann]

there is also the Layer Functional site from which things like School
grounds could be extracted.
As this layer does not have the issues as the buildings (school
grounds of different schools are not merged:)
an import may be more vluable.

On 24 November 2015 at 16:53, Christian Ledermann
 wrote:
> can you send me (a link to) the tiffs, I'd like to have a look at them,
> maybe there is a way to auto extract and compare buildings from that data
>
> On 24 November 2015 at 13:19, SK53  wrote:
>> I've finally (after 8 months) got around to looking at the OpenMap Local
>> buildings. I needed them for something else which caused me to download the
>> SK data. I'll say more in a blog post, but for now here are two comparisons
>> of OpenMap Local buildings with EA Lidar data (DSM-DTM & Z axis
>> accentuated):
>>
>> Central Newark (note parish church bottom left): https://flic.kr/p/ARUvRv
>> Residential area to E of town centre (note terraces):
>> https://flic.kr/p/ARUvQP
>>
>> I've also put a few comparisons of Nottingham between OSM & OpenMap
>> buildings.
>>
>> Generally I'd say that the OpenMap Local buildings, although better than
>> VMD, still have some of the same problems, and particularly that very
>> similar buildings (such as the terraced houses) may be shown differently, or
>> that discrete buildings are merged in unpredictable ways. It's also a bit
>> disappointing that the main medieval building, the parish church is just
>> shown as a box. The Lidar data looks to have more promise as a base line for
>> creating buildings. There may be scope to use the OpenMap Local buildings on
>> a case-by-case basis where these clearly match the Lidar/Aerial imagery, or
>> where the building shape is obviously simplified & can be improved (parish
>> church again). I would advise not touching things like most of the housing
>> and the merged buildings in the central retail areas. My experience with
>> working with such data is that splitting & refining such buildings is often
>> a lot more work than drawing them from scratch.
>>
>> I have Geotiffs for the DTM, DSM, their difference & hillshaded versions of
>> the DSM & difference. However I have failed to get these to load in JOSM. If
>> someone else know the trick do let me know.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 November 2015 at 13:03, Christian Ledermann
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Are there any mappers in and around Newark on Trent?
>>>
>>> I'd like to import the "OS Open Map - Local - SK" for newark and liked
>>> to have some other 'local eyes on it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Christian Ledermann
>>>
>>> Newark-on-Trent - UK
>>> Mobile : +44 7474997517
>>>
>>> https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
>>> https://github.com/cleder/
>>>
>>>
>>> <*)))>{
>>>
>>> If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
>>> you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
>>> you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
>>>
>>> 1) Don’t drive species to extinction
>>>
>>> 2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
>>>
>>> 3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
>>>
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>
> Christian Ledermann
>
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> If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
> you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
> you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
>
> 1) Don’t drive species to extinction
>
> 2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
>
> 3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
>
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-- 
Best Regards,

Christian Ledermann

Newark-on-Trent - UK
Mobile : +44 7474997517

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
https://github.com/cleder/


<*)))>{

If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.

1) Don’t drive species to extinction

2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.

3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.

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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Paul Johnson]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Tom Taylor 
wrote:

> Isn't it simply the equivalent of TinyURL for coordinates?
>

Not quite.  TinyURL's point is to fit around limitations with some means of
electronic communication in terms of handling certain characters or
arbitrary character limits.   w3w is trying to be a mnemonic device.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Newark on Trent mappers

[Phil Endecott]

SK53 wrote:

Quick look (Nottingham, of course):

   - Polygons look OK
   - Many features missing (e.g., University of Nottingham Main Campus,
   both sites of Dunkirk Primary School
   - Old features present (e.g., Elms Primary School, closed prior to 2011)
   - Reasonably well attributed.

At the very least it could be used to hunt for missing schools (which I've
done a bit of in N Scotland using Food Hygiene data).


Having looked at OpenMap Local for Edinburgh a while ago, my impression is
that they have used some rather primitive rules to identify "important
buildings".  It picks up anything with "school" in the name, but fails to
mark most of the city landmarks - things that are shown in their older "Street
View" data.  So yes, it might work for schools - but not much else.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Newark on Trent mappers

[SK53]

Perhaps not even for those give the number of Academies (also missing is
the new academy in Dunkirk). Point in Polygons for Food Hygiene data might
help.

It would also be interesting to see what they do with multi-institution
campuses. My nephews go to school in one such place.

On 24 November 2015 at 18:15, Phil Endecott 
wrote:

> SK53 wrote:
>
>> Quick look (Nottingham, of course):
>>
>>- Polygons look OK
>>- Many features missing (e.g., University of Nottingham Main Campus,
>>both sites of Dunkirk Primary School
>>- Old features present (e.g., Elms Primary School, closed prior to
>> 2011)
>>- Reasonably well attributed.
>>
>> At the very least it could be used to hunt for missing schools (which I've
>> done a bit of in N Scotland using Food Hygiene data).
>>
>
> Having looked at OpenMap Local for Edinburgh a while ago, my impression is
> that they have used some rather primitive rules to identify "important
> buildings".  It picks up anything with "school" in the name, but fails to
> mark most of the city landmarks - things that are shown in their older
> "Street
> View" data.  So yes, it might work for schools - but not much else.
>
>
> Cheers,  Phil.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some commercial support to you/ your projects in return

[Sander Deryckere]

2015-11-24 16:07 GMT+01:00 Bjorn Madsen :

> Hi Sander & Emil,
> Thanks for the quick responses. The usage of the lua script is
> particularly useful.
>
> I completely respect the limitations of the demo server and can offer to
> set up another server to support the project. 20Tb of traffic should help?
>
> OSRM is open source, so you're completely free to install your own server,
to fit your own needs or anything you want. If you want to support the
community with an extra server, that would be great too.


> I've been following the discussions on the OSM forum and they've discussed
> the quality of the map to a great extend.
> For planning purposes I appreciate that the main source of error is delay
> in updates. To counter that we are planning to use our commercial help-desk
> to collect information from drivers about detours and unrecorded obstacles
> so that OSM can get the updates with less than a days delay. We can also
> track some vehicles, and capture information such as slowdown caused by
> traffic jams, etc. on major roads. Hopefully this can become a valued
> source of information?
>
> OSM only gathers permanent and verifiable information. And permanent means
that you can expect it to last at least one year after you mapped it. Now,
you can do some more temporary mapping (like setting a highway state to
"construction" if they're doing long works on it). But in general, traffic
jams, temporary obstacles etc don't belong in OSM.

However, OSM is free to mix with other open data, so if anyone takes up the
job to create a database of temporary data, it can be combined with OSM.
Mapbox might indeed be interested in it, but I haven't seen any successful
and open databases like this so far.


> If somebody has a burning interest in accelerating this, then please feel
> free to get in touch for a sponsorship.
> That's the least I can do.
>
> Kind regards
> Bjorn
>
> 
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Tom Taylor]

Isn't it simply the equivalent of TinyURL for coordinates?

Tom Taylor
TomT5454

On 24/11/2015 9:00 AM, Andres Ortiz Haro wrote:

When I first knew about w3w I thought it was some kind of a "solution in search of a 
problem", searching for other views on the matter I actually found a great blog post 
[1] with an explanation and a funny example as to why they don't help much, if you don't 
have time for a long read you can still skip to the last part where a fictional scenario 
using w3w is presented (that's the funny part).


[1] http://blog.telemapics.com/?p=589


Regards,

Andrés


From: Paul Johnson 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:22 AM
To: Martin Koppenhoefer
Cc: openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] What3words



On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer 
> wrote:

2015-11-24 8:54 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale 
>:
I think their idea is that you can quote a location with the words which for 
humans is much easier to memorize and less prone to mishearing over dodgy phone 
and radio links than lat/lon or some other scientific grid reference.


yes, but it has a lot of other disadvantages, e.g. the fact that you can't know 
anything about the location without their API: you can't see from the 3 words 
where approximately a place is, and therefore you also can't see which 
3-word-combinations are close to each other and which are far. Traditional 
addressing works much better for these situations where you already know 
something of the city, e.g. you can bet that Downing Street 11 is not too far 
away from Downing Street 10. Imagine a postman having to deliver a bag of 
letters with only 3-word addresses on them. He'd very likely need some kind of 
device and look up all of them rather than knowing them by heart.

Or in the case of the traveling salesman/field service engineer scenario, I 
couldn't tell you where head.butt.teakettle is but give me a street address 
within about 50-70 miles of Tulsa or Oklahoma City's address origins and I can 
get you to within about a mile of that location and know which side of the road 
to be looking on straight off the top of my head, even if I've never been there 
before.  And if it's an unnamed county road or a section line I happen to know 
the name of, I don't even need a map.




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[Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 276

[Tom Ka]

Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 276 týdeníku weeklyOSM:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/5742

Téma čísla: Mapnik 3

* API pro rozcestníky na old.osm.cz
* OSM workshop na OpenAlt
* Slovenská mapping party
* monitorování změn OSM ve svém okolí
* Nové satelitní snímky od MapBoxu
* Vývoj HOT 2005-2010
* Nová verze rendereru Carto

Pěkné počtení...

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Re: [Talk-GB] Newark on Trent mappers

[SK53]

Quick look (Nottingham, of course):

   - Polygons look OK
   - Many features missing (e.g., University of Nottingham Main Campus,
   both sites of Dunkirk Primary School
   - Old features present (e.g., Elms Primary School, closed prior to 2011)
   - Reasonably well attributed.

At the very least it could be used to hunt for missing schools (which I've
done a bit of in N Scotland using Food Hygiene data).

Jerry

On 24 November 2015 at 17:28, Christian Ledermann <
christian.lederm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> there is also the Layer Functional site from which things like School
> grounds could be extracted.
> As this layer does not have the issues as the buildings (school
> grounds of different schools are not merged:)
> an import may be more vluable.
>
> On 24 November 2015 at 16:53, Christian Ledermann
>  wrote:
> > can you send me (a link to) the tiffs, I'd like to have a look at them,
> > maybe there is a way to auto extract and compare buildings from that data
> >
> > On 24 November 2015 at 13:19, SK53  wrote:
> >> I've finally (after 8 months) got around to looking at the OpenMap Local
> >> buildings. I needed them for something else which caused me to download
> the
> >> SK data. I'll say more in a blog post, but for now here are two
> comparisons
> >> of OpenMap Local buildings with EA Lidar data (DSM-DTM & Z axis
> >> accentuated):
> >>
> >> Central Newark (note parish church bottom left):
> https://flic.kr/p/ARUvRv
> >> Residential area to E of town centre (note terraces):
> >> https://flic.kr/p/ARUvQP
> >>
> >> I've also put a few comparisons of Nottingham between OSM & OpenMap
> >> buildings.
> >>
> >> Generally I'd say that the OpenMap Local buildings, although better than
> >> VMD, still have some of the same problems, and particularly that very
> >> similar buildings (such as the terraced houses) may be shown
> differently, or
> >> that discrete buildings are merged in unpredictable ways. It's also a
> bit
> >> disappointing that the main medieval building, the parish church is just
> >> shown as a box. The Lidar data looks to have more promise as a base
> line for
> >> creating buildings. There may be scope to use the OpenMap Local
> buildings on
> >> a case-by-case basis where these clearly match the Lidar/Aerial
> imagery, or
> >> where the building shape is obviously simplified & can be improved
> (parish
> >> church again). I would advise not touching things like most of the
> housing
> >> and the merged buildings in the central retail areas. My experience with
> >> working with such data is that splitting & refining such buildings is
> often
> >> a lot more work than drawing them from scratch.
> >>
> >> I have Geotiffs for the DTM, DSM, their difference & hillshaded
> versions of
> >> the DSM & difference. However I have failed to get these to load in
> JOSM. If
> >> someone else know the trick do let me know.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 20 November 2015 at 13:03, Christian Ledermann
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Are there any mappers in and around Newark on Trent?
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to import the "OS Open Map - Local - SK" for newark and liked
> >>> to have some other 'local eyes on it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Christian Ledermann
> >>>
> >>> Newark-on-Trent - UK
> >>> Mobile : +44 7474997517
> >>>
> >>> https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
> >>> https://github.com/cleder/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <*)))>{
> >>>
> >>> If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
> >>> you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
> >>> you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
> >>>
> >>> 1) Don’t drive species to extinction
> >>>
> >>> 2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
> >>>
> >>> 3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
> >>>
> >>> }<(((*>
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> Talk-GB mailing list
> >>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Christian Ledermann
> >
> > Newark-on-Trent - UK
> > Mobile : +44 7474997517
> >
> > https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
> > https://github.com/cleder/
> >
> >
> > <*)))>{
> >
> > If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
> > you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
> > you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
> >
> > 1) Don’t drive species to extinction
> >
> > 2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
> >
> > 3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
> >
> > }<(((*>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Christian Ledermann
>
> Newark-on-Trent - UK
> Mobile : +44 7474997517
>
> https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
> 

Re: [Talk-GB] Newark on Trent mappers

[SK53]

I dont think the tiffs are good enough for auto-extraction: the resolution
is a mix of 1 & 2 m. There is an edge detection routine available in the
gdal toolset, but I suspect the merging of buildings in OpenMap Local is
due to some similar processing. By the time you fiddle with all the
algorithms you can probably get several hundred buildings mapped using JOSM
directly.

There are around 2400 building features in the 4 sq km I have processed the
Lidar data for : perhaps an hour or so tracing for a week might get most of
them in. It will take a lot longer to start properly adding value by
putting more attributes on them. The town centre is the area which needs
most work: existing traced polygons aren't really very useful, and Newark
still needs more shops. Personally I find this a bit more rewarding than
the slog of address surveying in the 'burbs.

Relevant tiffs here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h8s5pgwkccpqh30/AAAr5SjYccxiUMJZfpPNHHgaa?dl=0 .
The *.vrt files might not work if they have full directory paths encoded.

Jerry





On 24 November 2015 at 16:53, Christian Ledermann <
christian.lederm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> can you send me (a link to) the tiffs, I'd like to have a look at them,
> maybe there is a way to auto extract and compare buildings from that data
>
> On 24 November 2015 at 13:19, SK53  wrote:
> > I've finally (after 8 months) got around to looking at the OpenMap Local
> > buildings. I needed them for something else which caused me to download
> the
> > SK data. I'll say more in a blog post, but for now here are two
> comparisons
> > of OpenMap Local buildings with EA Lidar data (DSM-DTM & Z axis
> > accentuated):
> >
> > Central Newark (note parish church bottom left):
> https://flic.kr/p/ARUvRv
> > Residential area to E of town centre (note terraces):
> > https://flic.kr/p/ARUvQP
> >
> > I've also put a few comparisons of Nottingham between OSM & OpenMap
> > buildings.
> >
> > Generally I'd say that the OpenMap Local buildings, although better than
> > VMD, still have some of the same problems, and particularly that very
> > similar buildings (such as the terraced houses) may be shown
> differently, or
> > that discrete buildings are merged in unpredictable ways. It's also a bit
> > disappointing that the main medieval building, the parish church is just
> > shown as a box. The Lidar data looks to have more promise as a base line
> for
> > creating buildings. There may be scope to use the OpenMap Local
> buildings on
> > a case-by-case basis where these clearly match the Lidar/Aerial imagery,
> or
> > where the building shape is obviously simplified & can be improved
> (parish
> > church again). I would advise not touching things like most of the
> housing
> > and the merged buildings in the central retail areas. My experience with
> > working with such data is that splitting & refining such buildings is
> often
> > a lot more work than drawing them from scratch.
> >
> > I have Geotiffs for the DTM, DSM, their difference & hillshaded versions
> of
> > the DSM & difference. However I have failed to get these to load in
> JOSM. If
> > someone else know the trick do let me know.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 20 November 2015 at 13:03, Christian Ledermann
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Are there any mappers in and around Newark on Trent?
> >>
> >> I'd like to import the "OS Open Map - Local - SK" for newark and liked
> >> to have some other 'local eyes on it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Christian Ledermann
> >>
> >> Newark-on-Trent - UK
> >> Mobile : +44 7474997517
> >>
> >> https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
> >> https://github.com/cleder/
> >>
> >>
> >> <*)))>{
> >>
> >> If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
> >> you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
> >> you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
> >>
> >> 1) Don’t drive species to extinction
> >>
> >> 2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
> >>
> >> 3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
> >>
> >> }<(((*>
> >>
> >> ___
> >> Talk-GB mailing list
> >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Christian Ledermann
>
> Newark-on-Trent - UK
> Mobile : +44 7474997517
>
> https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
> https://github.com/cleder/
>
>
> <*)))>{
>
> If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
> you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
> you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
>
> 1) Don’t drive species to extinction
>
> 2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
>
> 3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
>
> }<(((*>
>

Re: [Talk-GB] Newark on Trent mappers

[Christian Ledermann]

can you send me (a link to) the tiffs, I'd like to have a look at them,
maybe there is a way to auto extract and compare buildings from that data

On 24 November 2015 at 13:19, SK53  wrote:
> I've finally (after 8 months) got around to looking at the OpenMap Local
> buildings. I needed them for something else which caused me to download the
> SK data. I'll say more in a blog post, but for now here are two comparisons
> of OpenMap Local buildings with EA Lidar data (DSM-DTM & Z axis
> accentuated):
>
> Central Newark (note parish church bottom left): https://flic.kr/p/ARUvRv
> Residential area to E of town centre (note terraces):
> https://flic.kr/p/ARUvQP
>
> I've also put a few comparisons of Nottingham between OSM & OpenMap
> buildings.
>
> Generally I'd say that the OpenMap Local buildings, although better than
> VMD, still have some of the same problems, and particularly that very
> similar buildings (such as the terraced houses) may be shown differently, or
> that discrete buildings are merged in unpredictable ways. It's also a bit
> disappointing that the main medieval building, the parish church is just
> shown as a box. The Lidar data looks to have more promise as a base line for
> creating buildings. There may be scope to use the OpenMap Local buildings on
> a case-by-case basis where these clearly match the Lidar/Aerial imagery, or
> where the building shape is obviously simplified & can be improved (parish
> church again). I would advise not touching things like most of the housing
> and the merged buildings in the central retail areas. My experience with
> working with such data is that splitting & refining such buildings is often
> a lot more work than drawing them from scratch.
>
> I have Geotiffs for the DTM, DSM, their difference & hillshaded versions of
> the DSM & difference. However I have failed to get these to load in JOSM. If
> someone else know the trick do let me know.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
> On 20 November 2015 at 13:03, Christian Ledermann
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Are there any mappers in and around Newark on Trent?
>>
>> I'd like to import the "OS Open Map - Local - SK" for newark and liked
>> to have some other 'local eyes on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Christian Ledermann
>>
>> Newark-on-Trent - UK
>> Mobile : +44 7474997517
>>
>> https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
>> https://github.com/cleder/
>>
>>
>> <*)))>{
>>
>> If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
>> you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
>> you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
>>
>> 1) Don’t drive species to extinction
>>
>> 2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
>>
>> 3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
>>
>> }<(((*>
>>
>> ___
>> Talk-GB mailing list
>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
>
>



-- 
Best Regards,

Christian Ledermann

Newark-on-Trent - UK
Mobile : +44 7474997517

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
https://github.com/cleder/


<*)))>{

If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.

1) Don’t drive species to extinction

2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.

3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.

}<(((*>

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[Talk-br] duvida de tunnel=culvert

[Ivaldo Nunes de Magalhães]

Bacana esse tópico. Estou delimitando os bairros de Campo Grande/MS e tem
muitos limites admi_level=10 nessa situação, que se unem através de
ferrovias em pontes, pontes, rios, ruas... isso em vários bairros. O que
tenho feito é fazer o contorno do limite (geralmente um ângulo reto) com
linhas, utilizando o layer=* Não sei se está correto. O JOSM critica mas
quando visualizo o iD, passa. O problema que vejo é a duplicidade de
elementos. Para quê a linha se já existe um outro elemento "natural" ali?

Nelson, na época não entendi bem o seu exemplo, mas agora vou estudá-lo com
mais calma pois é necessário o domínio dessa técnica mas de uma forma
padrão. Seria bom ter um pequeno tutorial que abordasse o assunto.
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Re: [Talk-it] Sistemi di controllo nuove modifche sul database OSM

[scratera]

..io questo
http://simon04.dev.openstreetmap.org/whodidit/index.html?lat=45.85=11.05=12
 



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[OSM-talk-be] Nieuwe URLs voor Agiv luchtfoto's

[Sander Deryckere]

Hallo,

Blijkbaar zijn er nieuwe URLs voor de agiv luchtfoto's:
https://www.agiv.be/news/2015/november/webdiensten-grb-orthofotos-historische-kaarten-vernieuwd

De oude worden uitgefaseerd.

Het positieve nieuws is dat de URLs nu duidelijker zijn, en er is ook een
TMS URL met de meest recente luchtfoto's, dus kan die gebruikt worden in
iD:

http://tile.informatievlaanderen.be/ws/raadpleegdiensten/wmts?SERVICE=WMTS=GetTile=1.0.0=omwrgbmrvl==image/png=GoogleMapsVL={z}={y}={x}

T.t.z., ik hoop dat de bovenstaande URL werkt, want momenteel zijn hun
servers tamelijk traag (met veel timeouts). maar het is dankzij die trage
servers dat ik nog eens naar de Agiv site gekeken heb, zoals een bekend
filosoof zei: "Ieder nadeel heb zijn voordeel".

PS. De TMS lagen zijn ook gemakkelijker in JOSM. TMS can beter gecached
worden, waardoor zoomen en pannen vlotter gaat.

Mvg,
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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Federico Cortese]

2015-11-24 22:11 GMT+01:00 Andrea Solari :
>
> sai chi è  mcheckimport?
> ha mappato in zona Quiliano con diversi errori macroscopici
> indica come fonte Carta Tecnica Regionale 1:5000 dal 2007 - II Edizione
> 3D / DB Topografico
>

Difficile credere che abbia commesso errori macroscopici, di solito è
lui che corregge gli errori ;)
Contattalo vedrai che ti deluciderà.

Ciao
Federico

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[OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

[nicolas chavent]

Hi all,


Apologies for crosspostings, resending to talk an email sent to
osmf-talk about the HOT US Inc presence at the Board of the OSMF.

Best,
Nicolas


Dear OSMF voting members and mappers,

This short note (also published in my diary [1]) to draw your
attention on the danger for OSMF (and the OSM project) in the case the
United States NGO "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team US Inc" (aka HOT US
Inc) got a majority at the OSMF Board after this 2015 election.

Mikel Maron, Joseph Reeves and Yantisa Akhadi, all members of the NGO
HOT US Inc, are running for the OSMF Board [2]; Kate Chapman, the
former ED of HOT US Inc serves already as Board Officer in OSMF.

Shall Mikel Maron, Joseph Reeves and Yantisa Akhadi be elected, HOT US
Inc will get a majority at the Board of the Foundation.
This will provide a single organization of the OSM ecosystem (HOT US
Inc) with an unprecedented and excessive power of influence over the
Foundation.

This running of three candidates from the same organization is
puzzling and troublesome when one considers that HOT US Inc (and
therefore its perspective around OpenStreetMap) is already represented
at the OSMF Board since Sept 2013. Why extending its presence and
influence and consequently diminishing the OSM diversity represented
at the OSMF Board?

A greater HOT US Inc presence at the OSMF Board would be a matter of
concern in terms of :
- balance of powers
- diversity of visions, thoughts and practices around OSM
- board dynamics: a collective of HOT US Inc Boardees would interact
with single individuals.
This is a bad practice which is not followed by any Organizations;
this is specifically true for representative bodies (organization
representing organizations) such as OSMF

Here are some elements that OSMF voting members shall have in ming
prior casting their ballot 28-Nov onwards bearing in minds that HOT US
Inc and this perspective about OSM is already represented at the OSMF
Board through Kate Chapman.

The HOT US Inc perspective informs, like other perspectives, the work
of the Foundation and has its effect on the OSM project, there is no
need to take risks in providing this group with more room in the
Foundation which is hot enough in these times of winter.

Best,
Nicolas

[1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Nicolas Chavent/diary/36750
[2]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM15/Election_to_Board




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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Paul Johnson]

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Peter Gervai 
wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 2:01 PM, ajt1...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> > On 22/11/2015 12:51, Colin Smale wrote:
>
> > ...and once again, as seems to be the norm in OSM, any minority interest
> > which is not supported by the oligarchy gets mercilessly shot down.
>
> > ... except it's not _just_ the "oligarchy", is it?  No-one on this list
> > seems to have a good word for the original idea.
>
> And even many of the the lurkers don't. Central repository is bad for
> longevity.
>

Even if we completely ignore the licensing issues, there is a profit motive
behind w3w.  They gotta sell something.  And I'd be shocked if it's not
vanity words.  So, say I start telling friends about this awesome sushi
place at food.bear.utopia, but a competing eating establishment buys the
naming rights and has it changed to sushi.sucks.ass.  Now you're not going
to find your salmon sashimi at food.bear.utopia because that's not a valid
combination anymore.
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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Paul Johnson]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Jake Wasserman 
wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Max  wrote:
>
>> Additionally it is a mind booggling case of anglocentrism and neo
>> colonialism to put english words all over parts of the world where
>> people have different scripts and have no idea what those words mean and
>> how they are pronounced. how is this better then a local addressing
>> scheme or a geocoordinate if you have to remember the latin letters of
>> the three 'words' because you don't know their meaning?
>>
>>
> From their website: http://what3words.com/about/
> "We have rolled out our 3 word address system in 9 languages: English,
> French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swahili, Russian, German, Turkish & Swedish.
> We are adding to those every month and are currently working on Italian,
> Greek, Arabic and more."
>

So, it's less "what3words" and more like "what27words".  Starts making
datum issues look easy by contrast...
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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> Am 24.11.2015 um 05:59 schrieb Simone :
> 
> Cosa impedisce loro di registrarsi su OSM e partecipare alle modifiche? Visto 
> che segnalano, dovrebbero anche essere del/sul posto.


leggendo un po' sulla facenda mi sembra che la fonte delle lamentele è più la 
mancanza di streetview e dei immagini satellitari a buona risoluzione che la 
qualità della mappa. In più non c'è stato preannuncio o spiegazione prima del 
cambio. Se poi un utente vive in una zona poco presidiata in osm (per esempio 
USA), e magari paga pure 65 dollari all'anno, allora è chiaro che si lamenta...

Per fare sto cambio più smooth, avrebbero dovuto prima introdurre osm senza 
togliere i servizi Google nello stesso momento.

Altri utenti strava invece sono entusiasti della qualità delle nuove mappe in 
zone remote e non accessibili con le macchine (dove prima con Google non c'era 
niente), e scrivono che streetview tanto non aveva imagini per le aree di loro 
interesse (fuori strada). Dipende tutto dalle proprie aspettative e dall'uso 
che uno fa.

ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Luca Delucchi]

2015-11-23 23:33 GMT+01:00 John Doe :
>
> Buongiorno,
>

ciao,

> qualcuno ha già preso in considerazione di dedicarsi un po' alla correzione 
> degli errori segnalati dagli utenti di Strava?
> Si trovano qui (a livello globale): 
> http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#1000/5/12.98584/43.34116
> Sarebbe una buona cosa dare una controllata, considerate le polemiche 
> sollevate dalla comunità di fronte all'adozione di OSM al posto di Google 
> Maps.
>

ho dato un'occhiata ma non capisco bene cosa significano le
segnalazione, per esempio questa

http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#1000/17/11.04602/46.08900


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Gestion des périodes historiques pour le patrimoine

[Jérôme Seigneuret]

Le 24 novembre 2015 07:12, Marc Gemis  a écrit :

> Quand je vois à taginfo: [1]
>
> il y a déja 189 x  C16 et 176 x C19, 64 x C14, ...
> aussi c16
> et aussi 57 x 18.␣Jahrhundert
>
> pas de x...y
>

Bonjour,

En effet, ce format n'est pas utilisé avec start date mais l'incertitude
peut s'inscrire soit dans le champs lui-même soit dans un deuxième. La
solution est déjà utilisé ailleurs (certes en faible proportion)
*hi**st**or**ic**:C**13**..**.1**88*1

*wa**s:**ra**il**wa**y:**20**12**..**20**14*


Si l'on propose une solution plus "propre" et universelle ça évitera de se
retrouver avec plusieurs schémas de clés (qui seront plus pénibles à
maintenir). Le travail de refonte a été fait avec opening_hour.

Pour le reste c'est un outil facile d'utilisation permettant de faire les
passerelles au besoin. Donc inutile d'avoir 10 formats possible de stockage
si un schéma répond à l'ensemble des besoins.

Bonne journée
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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Marcello]

Ho controllato l'unica segnalazione che era riportata per le zone che
conosco, in effetti ho trovato una stradina che non era inserita in
mappa. L'utente Strava lamentava il fatto che per circa 1 km il percorso
visualizzato era su una strada vicina, ovvio, quella non c'era!
Adesso la strada l'ho aggiunta basandomi sulle foto satellitari PCN
2012, dove era ben visibile, non avendo trovato il modo di scaricare il
tracciato GPS che il sito Strava fa vedere in celeste pallido in
corrispondenza della nota. Dato che avere anche il tracciato gps
potrebbe aiutare in molte situazioni ho scritto al supporto Strava per
chiedere se si può scaricare in qualche modo.

Ciao
Marcello

Il 23/11/2015 23:33, John Doe ha scritto:
> Buongiorno,
>
> qualcuno ha già preso in considerazione di dedicarsi un po' alla
> correzione degli errori segnalati dagli utenti di Strava?
> Si trovano qui (a livello globale):
> http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#1000/5/12.98584/43.34116
> Sarebbe una buona cosa dare una controllata, considerate le polemiche
> sollevate dalla comunità di fronte all'adozione di OSM al posto di
> Google Maps.
>
>

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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-24 8:54 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale :

> I think their idea is that you can quote a location with the words which
> for humans is much easier to memorize and less prone to mishearing over
> dodgy phone and radio links than lat/lon or some other scientific grid
> reference.



yes, but it has a lot of other disadvantages, e.g. the fact that you can't
know anything about the location without their API: you can't see from the
3 words where approximately a place is, and therefore you also can't see
which 3-word-combinations are close to each other and which are far.
Traditional addressing works much better for these situations where you
already know something of the city, e.g. you can bet that Downing Street 11
is not too far away from Downing Street 10. Imagine a postman having to
deliver a bag of letters with only 3-word addresses on them. He'd very
likely need some kind of device and look up all of them rather than knowing
them by heart.

Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: Roads in India: How complete is OpenStreetMap ?

[Abhishek Saikia]

Here is the updated spreadsheet containing most information about roads
which was gathered from the state PWD sources and Basic Road Statistics of
India

document:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uYmQEyZqP2tMe1cJYJUVcNIhFPCdzETsBh1kaSCZplI/edit#gid=1160952226
.

The "*Basic Road Statistics of India*" contain comprehensive road
statistics of India updated until 2010-11. As a general rule, the higher
number among different sources and/or the most recent updated data has been
quoted in case of conflicting statistics from various sources.

It has also been observed that states like "Arunachal Pradesh" and some of
the Union Territories have very little information available on their road
networks. Also, most of the PWD sources are outdated with some even dating
back to 2007. These figures are by no means final and absolutely correct.
It would be great to have the OSM community to join their hands in looking
into these figures and update the spreadsheet

with
the any relevant sources they gather and also cite these sources in the
spreadsheet.

Thanks,
Abhishek Saikia

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Arun Ganesh 
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Russell Nelson 
> wrote:
>
>> Someone quipped at State of the Map US that the best way to improve your
>> map is to make your area attractive for Germans to come and visit.
>> Advertise in-country Yoga instruction in Germany?
>>
>>
> Some of the biggest Indian road and power line contributors have been
> German :)
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Tom Hughes]

On 24/11/15 08:00, Paul Johnson wrote:


Even if we completely ignore the licensing issues, there is a profit
motive behind w3w.  They gotta sell something.  And I'd be shocked if
it's not vanity words.  So, say I start telling friends about this
awesome sushi place at food.bear.utopia, but a competing eating
establishment buys the naming rights and has it changed to
sushi.sucks.ass.  Now you're not going to find your salmon sashimi at
food.bear.utopia because that's not a valid combination anymore.


It's no secret that they do that - it's called a "OneWord".

I'll grant you I can't easily see it on their web site right now but 
they certainly were selling single word locators for a premium.


See eg http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/08/what3words/.

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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Paul Johnson]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:

>
> 2015-11-24 8:54 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale :
>
>> I think their idea is that you can quote a location with the words which
>> for humans is much easier to memorize and less prone to mishearing over
>> dodgy phone and radio links than lat/lon or some other scientific grid
>> reference.
>
>
>
> yes, but it has a lot of other disadvantages, e.g. the fact that you can't
> know anything about the location without their API: you can't see from the
> 3 words where approximately a place is, and therefore you also can't see
> which 3-word-combinations are close to each other and which are far.
> Traditional addressing works much better for these situations where you
> already know something of the city, e.g. you can bet that Downing Street 11
> is not too far away from Downing Street 10. Imagine a postman having to
> deliver a bag of letters with only 3-word addresses on them. He'd very
> likely need some kind of device and look up all of them rather than knowing
> them by heart.
>

Or in the case of the traveling salesman/field service engineer scenario, I
couldn't tell you where head.butt.teakettle is but give me a street address
within about 50-70 miles of Tulsa or Oklahoma City's address origins and I
can get you to within about a mile of that location and know which side of
the road to be looking on straight off the top of my head, even if I've
never been there before.  And if it's an unnamed county road or a section
line I happen to know the name of, I don't even need a map.
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Re: [Talk-it] Tag "leaf_type" per alberi inseriti con changeset "Import from regione Comune di Bologna trees"

[Marcello]

Il 24/11/2015 08:09, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: sent from a phone
>> Am 23.11.2015 um 10:14 schrieb Marcello :
>>
>> si può fare tranquillamente o bisogna fare qualche
>> comunicazione o chiedere di risolvere a chi a fatto l'import?
>
> si può fare quello che si preferisce, o chiedere di sistemare a chi ha fatto 
> l'import ed è responsabile dei "danni", o farlo da solo.
Avevo visto che diversi alberi erano stati progressivamente corretti,
per cui ho deciso di fare da solo. Degli originali 2 ne ho ritrovati
13664 appartenenti al changeset dell'import, per cui li ho corretti.
>
>
> C'è anche un tag denotation? Valori tipici sono urban, avenue e forse altro:
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/denotation
>
> Ciao 
> Martin 
>
No, quel tag non c'è.

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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Stefano]

Il giorno 24 novembre 2015 09:55, Luca Delucchi  ha
scritto:

> 2015-11-23 23:33 GMT+01:00 John Doe :
> >
> > Buongiorno,
> >
>
> ciao,
>
> > qualcuno ha già preso in considerazione di dedicarsi un po' alla
> correzione degli errori segnalati dagli utenti di Strava?
> > Si trovano qui (a livello globale):
> http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#1000/5/12.98584/43.34116
> > Sarebbe una buona cosa dare una controllata, considerate le polemiche
> sollevate dalla comunità di fronte all'adozione di OSM al posto di Google
> Maps.
> >
>
> ho dato un'occhiata ma non capisco bene cosa significano le
> segnalazione, per esempio questa
>
> http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#1000/17/11.04602/46.08900


C'è una strada sulla quale non possono fare routing col route builder di
Strava. In effetti ci sono tutte le strade di servizio interne al centro
sportivo non mappate...


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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Max]

On 2015년 11월 24일 14:29, Jake Wasserman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Max  > wrote:
> 
> Additionally it is a mind booggling case of anglocentrism and neo
> colonialism to put english words all over parts of the world where
> people have different scripts and have no idea what those words mean and
> how they are pronounced. how is this better then a local addressing
> scheme or a geocoordinate if you have to remember the latin letters of
> the three 'words' because you don't know their meaning?
> 
> 
> From their website: http://what3words.com/about/
> "We have rolled out our 3 word address system in 9 languages: English,
> French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swahili, Russian, German, Turkish &
> Swedish. We are adding to those every month and are currently working on
> Italian, Greek, Arabic and more."

thanks, didn't see it. unfortunately that just opens another can of
worms. translation problems. i wanted to go to topf.hut.auto but ended
up at pan.hut.car instead of pot.hat.car.


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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Davide Mangraviti]

Nelle mie zone errori non ne ho trovati.
Mi sono già apprestato ad usare le mappe di densità dei percorsi, veramente
un grande aiuto (diciamo inconsapevole del valore) da parte degli utenti
Strava.
Perchè aspettarsi che la gente si metta a mappare, è sempre una speranza
molto vana..
..e allora senza fare tante parole, che ci diano le tracce e gli eventuali
errori, che ci pensiamo noi che sappiamo come mettere le mani..
..e poi per chi ha voglia, le porte sono sempre aperte



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> Buongiorno,
> 
> qualcuno ha già preso in considerazione di dedicarsi un po' alla
> correzione
> degli errori segnalati dagli utenti di Strava?
> Si trovano qui (a livello globale):
> http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#1000/5/12.98584/43.34116
> Sarebbe una buona cosa dare una controllata, considerate le polemiche
> sollevate dalla comunità di fronte all'adozione di OSM al posto di Google
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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Colin Smale]

 

They stopped selling OneWords. 

https://twitter.com/what3words/status/594070034625986561 

On 2015-11-24 11:03, Tom Hughes wrote: 

> On 24/11/15 08:00, Paul Johnson wrote:
> 
>> Even if we completely ignore the licensing issues, there is a profit
>> motive behind w3w.  They gotta sell something.  And I'd be shocked if
>> it's not vanity words.  So, say I start telling friends about this
>> awesome sushi place at food.bear.utopia, but a competing eating
>> establishment buys the naming rights and has it changed to
>> sushi.sucks.ass.  Now you're not going to find your salmon sashimi at
>> food.bear.utopia because that's not a valid combination anymore.
> 
> It's no secret that they do that - it's called a "OneWord".
> 
> I'll grant you I can't easily see it on their web site right now but they 
> certainly were selling single word locators for a premium.
> 
> See eg http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/08/what3words/.
> 
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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Marcello]

Grazie Federico, avevo visto quella funzione nell'editor Id ma non in
Josm, era quello che cercavo.

Ciao
Marcello

Il 24/11/2015 10:36, Federico Cortese ha scritto:
> Ciao Marcello, le linee blu che si vedono mi sembrano le heatmap di
> Strava attivabili in JOSM tra gli imagery preset: Strava cycling
> heatmap
> tms[4717]:http://globalheat.strava.com/tiles/cycling/color2/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
> Strava running heatmap
> tms[4717]:http://globalheat.strava.com/tiles/running/color2/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
> Ciao Federico 


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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Federico Cortese]

2015-11-24 10:02 GMT+01:00 Marcello :
>
> Adesso la strada l'ho aggiunta basandomi sulle foto satellitari PCN 2012, 
> dove era ben visibile, non avendo trovato il modo di scaricare il tracciato 
> GPS che il sito Strava fa vedere in celeste pallido in corrispondenza della 
> nota. Dato che avere anche il tracciato gps potrebbe aiutare in molte 
> situazioni ho scritto al supporto Strava per chiedere se si può scaricare in 
> qualche modo.
>

Ciao Marcello,
le linee blu che si vedono mi sembrano le heatmap di Strava attivabili
in JOSM tra gli imagery preset:
Strava cycling heatmap
tms[4717]:http://globalheat.strava.com/tiles/cycling/color2/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
Strava running heatmap
tms[4717]:http://globalheat.strava.com/tiles/running/color2/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png

Ciao
Federico

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Re: [Talk-it] Diminuzione Tag totali wikipedia

[Luca Delucchi]

2015-11-23 21:00 GMT+01:00 Simone F. :

>
> Luca,

ciao simone

> è possibile che si sia corrotto il file dell'Italia?

eh si, ho avuto qualche problemino anche con i file regionali, sto
aggiornando tutto

> Prova ad eseguire una volta il programma sostituendo l'opzione -u
> (--update_osm) con -d (--download_osm), in modo che venga riscaricato da
> zero il pbf dell'Italia da Geofabrik.
>

fatto, ora dovrebbe essere a posto

>
> Ciao,
> Simone F.
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Re: [Talk-it] Diminuzione Tag totali wikipedia

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Ho recentemente aggiunto una serie di tags wikipedia per ponti
(man_made=bridge), ma nello stesso momento ho tolto dalle strade
(highway=*, bridge=yes) gli stessi link wikipedia (mi sembrava molto più
logico avere il riferimento sull'oggetto stesso (il ponte) che non su una
parte (come la strada sul ponte), nb. che avevo messo io per lo più i link
wikipedia che avevo adesso rimosso, *nonostante chiederei a voi un parere
se vi pare la cosa giusta da fare*). Queste operazioni difatto risultavano
spesso in una riduzione di tags wikipedia (benché il numeri di tags univoci
è rimasto uguale), perché si trattava spesso di più percorsi sullo stesso
ponte (carreggiate divise, marciapiedi, ecc.).

Ciao,
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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-24 10:26 GMT+01:00 Max :

> thanks, didn't see it. unfortunately that just opens another can of
> worms. translation problems. i wanted to go to topf.hut.auto but ended
> up at pan.hut.car instead of pot.hat.car.
>



for obvious reasons, these are very likely distinct systems per language,
not translations. I.e. every 3x3m location has its own independent, human
readable, cryptic address in each of the languages.

FWIW, I don't think we have to find the hair in the soup, as we have
already stated in overwhelming majority that the soup is bitter and we
won't eat it anyway.

Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Davide Mangraviti]

Il livello della segnalazione degli errori STRAVA non si può ancora avere
come layer su JOSM?



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Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: Roads in India: How complete is OpenStreetMap ?

[Naveen Francis]

Hi Nikhil,

IMHO it will good to keep SHs,MDRs separate from village roads. Already we
have mapped SHs.

We will be able to know how much we have mapped on this front.

Village roads= Total road - ( PWD (R) [includes SHs + MDRs] + PWD (NH) )

Economic review 2014 :-
http://spb.kerala.gov.in/images/er/er14/Chapter5/chapter05.html

Table 5.2 -Agency wise distribution of State roads in Kerala during 2013-14

Sl.No

Name of Department

Length (Km)

Percentage

1

Panchayats

265421.120

80.00

2

PWD (R)

31811.601

9.6

3

Municipalities

18411.870

5.6

4

Corporations

6644.000

2.00

5

Forests

4575.770

1.5

6

Irrigation

2611.900

0.79

7

PWD (NH)

1568.000

0.47

8

Others (Railways, KSEB)

328.000

0.09



Total

331372.261

100.00

Source : Various Departments



On 24 November 2015 at 15:30, Nikhil Prabhakar  wrote:

> Hi Naveen,
>
> Thanks for adding the data of Kerala village roads to the spreadsheet
> .
> I can see that you have added the Panchayath roads and PWD (R and B)
> numbers. Is it a good idea to add the PWD figures to the village roads as
> this also includes the State highways and Major District Roads? Waiting for
> your word on this.
>
> Regards,
> Nikhil Prabhakar
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Arun Ganesh 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Russell Nelson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Someone quipped at State of the Map US that the best way to improve your
>>> map is to make your area attractive for Germans to come and visit.
>>> Advertise in-country Yoga instruction in Germany?
>>>
>>>
>> Some of the biggest Indian road and power line contributors have been
>> German :)
>>
>>
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[OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some commercial support to you/ your projects in return

[Bjorn Madsen]

My name is Bjorn, and I'm the director at a commercial project that needs
something like the Open Source Routing Machine with Openstreet Map where
you both appear rather active. You can find a little bit about me on
linkedin  and Multi-Agent Technology
 London.

*Question*: The most pressing question I have is whether OSRM is suitable
for truck/lorry routing in its current state?

I have no need to visualize the map data. Only calculation of the path,
length and duration of the route for heavy goods vehicles for planning
purposes. This means that I need to check for constraints such as weight,
low bridges and width-limitations along the path.

If queries are as quick as on the demo-server for the osrm-project, then
time is on our side. In my lack insight, I imagine that this can be done in
iterations, where first a path is chosen for cars, which subsequently is
inspected for these constraints. If constraints are detected, alternatives
will need to by discovered. I'm sure you have better ideas?

I'm also on Google hangout (using this email) if you'd prefer to talk
instead of writing longer emails.

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[Emil Tin]

Yes, OSRM can be used for truck routing. You can easily modify the LUA profile, 
which determines what ways are routable and at what speed, based on OSM tags.



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Sendt: 24. november 2015 15:20
Til: osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org
Emne: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some commercial 
support to you/ your projects in return

My name is Bjorn, and I'm the director at a commercial project that needs 
something like the Open Source Routing Machine with Openstreet Map where you 
both appear rather active. You can find a little bit about me on 
linkedin and Multi-Agent 
Technology London.

Question: The most pressing question I have is whether OSRM is suitable for 
truck/lorry routing in its current state?

I have no need to visualize the map data. Only calculation of the path, length 
and duration of the route for heavy goods vehicles for planning purposes. This 
means that I need to check for constraints such as weight, low bridges and 
width-limitations along the path.

If queries are as quick as on the demo-server for the osrm-project, then time 
is on our side. In my lack insight, I imagine that this can be done in 
iterations, where first a path is chosen for cars, which subsequently is 
inspected for these constraints. If constraints are detected, alternatives will 
need to by discovered. I'm sure you have better ideas?

I'm also on Google hangout (using this email) if you'd prefer to talk instead 
of writing longer emails.

Thanks again for getting back to me.

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Multi-Agent Technology Ltd.
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[Talk-it] codice fiscale

[demon.box]

ciao, se devo taggare la partita iva di una attività commerciale uso

ref:vatin=IT***

ma se ho una associaziona onlus che ha soltanto il codice fiscale che tag
uso?

grazie

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[Talk-it] Sistemi di controllo nuove modifche sul database OSM

[Marco Bartalini]

Ragazzi, che tipo di strumenti utilizzate per controllare le nuove
modifiche sulla vostra area???

Federico Cortese mi consigliò di utilizzare questo link achavi con il quale
mi trovo molto bene in quanto semplice e immediato nel visualizzare le
notifiche http://overpass-api.de/achavi/

esiste qualcosa di meglio??? magari con un sistema di notifiche via email
per le zone modificate da noi stessi???
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some commercial support to you/ your projects in return

[Bjorn Madsen]

Hi Sander & Emil,
Thanks for the quick responses. The usage of the lua script is particularly
useful.

I completely respect the limitations of the demo server and can offer to
set up another server to support the project. 20Tb of traffic should help?

I've been following the discussions on the OSM forum and they've discussed
the quality of the map to a great extend.
For planning purposes I appreciate that the main source of error is delay
in updates. To counter that we are planning to use our commercial help-desk
to collect information from drivers about detours and unrecorded obstacles
so that OSM can get the updates with less than a days delay. We can also
track some vehicles, and capture information such as slowdown caused by
traffic jams, etc. on major roads. Hopefully this can become a valued
source of information?

If somebody has a burning interest in accelerating this, then please feel
free to get in touch for a sponsorship.
That's the least I can do.

Kind regards
Bjorn


On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Sander Deryckere 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm writing this as an OSM mapper and user of the OSRM api, I'm not an
> OSRM dev, so I might make some mistakes here.
>
> 2015-11-24 15:20 GMT+01:00 Bjorn Madsen :
>
>> My name is Bjorn, and I'm the director at a commercial project that needs
>> something like the Open Source Routing Machine with Openstreet Map where
>> you both appear rather active. You can find a little bit about me on
>> linkedin  and Multi-Agent Technology
>>  London.
>>
>> *Question*: The most pressing question I have is whether OSRM is
>> suitable for truck/lorry routing in its current state?
>>
>
> The passability and driving speed of road types is determined by lua
> scripts (see
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/develop/profiles/car.lua
> for the example car script). So you can at least make one script per
> vehicle type (split up your lorries in discrete types, and have a script
> for every type).
>
> Now, OSRM is suited, but I don't know if OSM data is suited. Lorry tagging
> is something not many mappers do (not many mappers need maxweight or
> maxlength properties of a way), so data may be sparse. But this depends a
> lot on the region you're operating in. It's generally known that Europe has
> better coverage than North America, but even in Europe such tagging will
> depend a lot on the region you're in.
>
>>
>> I have no need to visualize the map data. Only calculation of the path,
>> length and duration of the route for heavy goods vehicles for planning
>> purposes. This means that I need to check for constraints such as weight,
>> low bridges and width-limitations along the path.
>>
>> If queries are as quick as on the demo-server for the osrm-project, then
>> time is on our side. In my lack insight, I imagine that this can be done in
>> iterations, where first a path is chosen for cars, which subsequently is
>> inspected for these constraints. If constraints are detected, alternatives
>> will need to by discovered. I'm sure you have better ideas?
>>
>> The demo server is what it is, a demo. If you want truck routing, you'll
> have to install your own server with your own profiles.
>
>
>> I'm also on Google hangout (using this email) if you'd prefer to talk
>> instead of writing longer emails.
>>
>> Thanks again for getting back to me.
>> 
>
>
> As for the return service you propose, if you use the data for truckers,
> it would be great if you could get those truckers to help contribute data
> to the database. In contrast to the average mapper, they will care about
> maxweight and maxlength properties, and will want to correct those where
> wrong. In turn, this also makes your data and your routes better.
>
> It can be achieved by giving the truckers a training on how to add that
> data to OSM, or give them some option to add notes to OSM (in which case
> these notes will have to be interpreted by regular mappers, and mapped).
>
> Regards,
> Sander
>
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Sistemi di controllo nuove modifche sul database OSM

[Luca Delucchi]

2015-11-24 16:03 GMT+01:00 Marco Bartalini :
> Ragazzi, che tipo di strumenti utilizzate per controllare le nuove modifiche
> sulla vostra area???
>
> Federico Cortese mi consigliò di utilizzare questo link achavi con il quale
> mi trovo molto bene in quanto semplice e immediato nel visualizzare le
> notifiche http://overpass-api.de/achavi/
>
> esiste qualcosa di meglio??? magari con un sistema di notifiche via email
> per le zone modificate da noi stessi???
>

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2015-November/049722.html


-- 
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Luca

http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/
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Re: [Talk-dk] En ny type vej

[Asger Frank]

Dén vejtype var et ukendt nyt ord, Sprognævnet nu har sat på overvågningslisten.
Det har jeg fået af vide af spørgetjenesten, som desuden siger den rigtige 
stavning må være:

A: 2-minus-1-vej.
B: 2 minus 1-vej, som et også korrekt alternativ (synes jeg er uskøn, men kan 
se den jævnligt anvendt).

mvh. Asger Frank.


> Den 6. nov. 2015 kl. 11.55 skrev Asger Frank :
> 
> Den nye vejtype fortjener en god skriftlig betegnelse.
> 
> I rapporten fra Vejdirektoratet skrives konsekvent  2 minus 1 vej.
> Nogle medier har forsøgt at gøre stavemåden bedre i egne artikler.
> Heldigvis bruger Vejdirektoratet på Youtube det ord som må være rigtigst: 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SUOtN_5PjJwh9DaTG9NVunc4HPW81NSM-t6uzgsBn8s/pubhtml
>  
> 
> 
> Grunden til at "2-minus-1-vej" må være det rigtige er, at kun dét passer med 
> principperne for sammenskrivning
> af ord, samt regler for brug af bindestreger (bl.a. hvor tal indgår).
> http://sproget.dk/raad-og-regler/typiske-problemer/bindestreger 
> 
> 
> Mvh. 
> Asger Frank
> 
> PS: et set alternativ, 2-1 vej, er da fint som grafisk pang, især når 
> minus-prikkerne er synlige, men nok lovlig fortænkt som almindelig 
> betegnelse, og mangler desuden en (binde)streg mere. 
> http://www.aalborg.dk/trafik-pas-og-transport/veje/aktuelle-vejprojekter/2-minus-1-vej-i-soenderholm
>  
> 
> 
>> Den 3. nov. 2015 kl. 19.55 skrev Torben Brendstrup > >:
>> 
>> Det er ikke en vejtype der er unik for Danmark, jeg har bl.a. set den type 
>> vej i Holland. Så mon ikke mapperne der har haft samme problemstilling?
>> 
>> Mvh. Torben
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015, 17:34 Michael Andersen > > wrote:
>> Kan vi ikke starte med at tagge dem f.eks. "description=2-i-1 vej" og lave et
>> link til dokumentet her fra wikien + en lille forklaring sammesteds?
>> 
>> Tirsdag den 3. november 2015 17:18:51 skrev Michel Coene:
>> > Der er desværre nok ikke så meget at gøre. Bygaden i Jyllinge er decideret
>> > "Residential", mens Kirkevangen i Smørumovre (som ikke engang står på
>> > listen, og hvor de for fornøjelsens skyld har lagt en cykelsti ved siden
>> > af) er en decideret landevej.
>> > Så medmindre vi opfinder vores egen tag, som nok sikker aldrig vil blive
>> > brugt...
>> > Michel
>> >
>> > (Smørum:
>> > https://www.google.dk/maps/@55.7351414,12.2822841,167m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en 
>> > )
>> > RoskildeBygaden, Jyllinge
>> >
>> > 2015-11-03 15:41 GMT+01:00 Soren Johannessen > > >:
>> > > Hej alle sammen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Jeg har skrevet til Marianne Foldberg Steffensen fra Vejdirektoratet
>> > > og har fået en liste over de 87  vejsegmenter i Danmark ( i 32
>> > > kommuner - dette drejer sig om vedr. "2 minus 1 veje" pt. Listen kan
>> > > ses her
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SUOtN_5PjJwh9DaTG9NVunc4HPW81NSM-t
>> > >  
>> > > 
>> > > 6uzgsBn8s/pubhtml
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Desværre havde Vejdirektoratet ikke geodata i en Shape, KML eller
>> > > GeoJSON med linjestykkerne på som  det konkret drejer sig om - Så I må
>> > > nøjes med vejnavnet og kommune, og så kan I evt. selv køre ud og kigge
>> > > samt evt fotograferer vejstykket til Mapillary
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Med venlig hilsen
>> > > Søren Johannessen
>> > >
>> > > 2015-11-03 7:58 GMT+01:00 Michael Andersen > > > >:
>> > > > Der er et eksempel her: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/93663534 
>> > > > .
>> > >
>> > > Skolen er
>> > >
>> > > > ganske vist nedlagt nu, men vejen er stadig indrettet med
>> > >
>> > > fartbegrænsning og
>> > >
>> > > > diverse fartbegrænsende foranstaltninger (bump etc). Jeg synes det
>> > >
>> > > generelt
>> > >
>> > > > må være tilstrækkeligt at markere disse.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Hjart
>> > > >
>> > > > Tirsdag den 3. november 2015 07:19:59 skrev Michel Coene:
>> > > >> Der findes nok ikke en separat tag. Men det vil være rart med en 
>> > > >> fælles
>> > > >>
>> > > >> strategi. Highway unclassified cycleway lane ? Og så godt med
>> > >
>> > > hastigheder
>> > >
>> > > >> og vej bump?
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Michel Coene
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Op 3-nov.-2015 07:09 schreef "Lars Gravengaard" > > > >> >:
>> > > >> > Hej
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Har vi en plan for disse veje i osm ?
>> > > 

Re: [Talk-it] Sistemi di controllo nuove modifche sul database OSM

[Stefano]

Il giorno 24 novembre 2015 16:03, Marco Bartalini 
ha scritto:

> Ragazzi, che tipo di strumenti utilizzate per controllare le nuove
> modifiche sulla vostra area???
>
> Federico Cortese mi consigliò di utilizzare questo link achavi con il
> quale mi trovo molto bene in quanto semplice e immediato nel visualizzare
> le notifiche http://overpass-api.de/achavi/
>
> esiste qualcosa di meglio??? magari con un sistema di notifiche via email
> per le zone modificate da noi stessi???
>
>
Ciao,

Martin Raifer aveva fatto questo, ti permette di inquadrare una zona e
scegliere il feed che ti serve
http://tyrasd.github.io/osm-qa-feeds/

Io uso whodidit e ricevo tutti i changeset su Genova e Sardegna.

Ciao,
Stefano


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Re: [Talk-it] Sistemi di controllo nuove modifche sul database OSM

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-24 16:03 GMT+01:00 Marco Bartalini :

> esiste qualcosa di meglio??? magari con un sistema di notifiche via email
> per le zone modificate da noi stessi???


in automatico? Non lo so. Esiste anche questo:
http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/

Forse ti puoi creare qualcosa con un feed e ifthisthenthat

Ciao,
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some commercial support to you/ your projects in return

[Emil Tin]

Sounds great.

Regarding GPS data, perhaps this is something Mapbox would be interested in 
somehow processing. I think they’ve already worked on using GPS data to adjust 
speed estimates in OSRM for cars. They’re also working on extending OSRM so 
dynamic traffic data can be used to update the routing suggesting in near 
real-time.


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Fra: Bjorn Madsen [mailto:b...@multiagenttechnology.com]
Sendt: 24. november 2015 16:08
Til: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM
Emne: Re: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some 
commercial support to you/ your projects in return

Hi Sander & Emil,
Thanks for the quick responses. The usage of the lua script is particularly 
useful.

I completely respect the limitations of the demo server and can offer to set up 
another server to support the project. 20Tb of traffic should help?

I've been following the discussions on the OSM forum and they've discussed the 
quality of the map to a great extend.
For planning purposes I appreciate that the main source of error is delay in 
updates. To counter that we are planning to use our commercial help-desk to 
collect information from drivers about detours and unrecorded obstacles so that 
OSM can get the updates with less than a days delay. We can also track some 
vehicles, and capture information such as slowdown caused by traffic jams, etc. 
on major roads. Hopefully this can become a valued source of information?

If somebody has a burning interest in accelerating this, then please feel free 
to get in touch for a sponsorship.
That's the least I can do.

Kind regards
Bjorn


On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Sander Deryckere 
> wrote:
Hi,
I'm writing this as an OSM mapper and user of the OSRM api, I'm not an OSRM 
dev, so I might make some mistakes here.

2015-11-24 15:20 GMT+01:00 Bjorn Madsen 
>:
My name is Bjorn, and I'm the director at a commercial project that needs 
something like the Open Source Routing Machine with Openstreet Map where you 
both appear rather active. You can find a little bit about me on 
linkedin and Multi-Agent 
Technology London.

Question: The most pressing question I have is whether OSRM is suitable for 
truck/lorry routing in its current state?

The passability and driving speed of road types is determined by lua scripts 
(see https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/develop/profiles/car.lua 
for the example car script). So you can at least make one script per vehicle 
type (split up your lorries in discrete types, and have a script for every 
type).
Now, OSRM is suited, but I don't know if OSM data is suited. Lorry tagging is 
something not many mappers do (not many mappers need maxweight or maxlength 
properties of a way), so data may be sparse. But this depends a lot on the 
region you're operating in. It's generally known that Europe has better 
coverage than North America, but even in Europe such tagging will depend a lot 
on the region you're in.

I have no need to visualize the map data. Only calculation of the path, length 
and duration of the route for heavy goods vehicles for planning purposes. This 
means that I need to check for constraints such as weight, low bridges and 
width-limitations along the path.

If queries are as quick as on the demo-server for the osrm-project, then time 
is on our side. In my lack insight, I imagine that this can be done in 
iterations, where first a path is chosen for cars, which subsequently is 
inspected for these constraints. If constraints are detected, alternatives will 
need to by discovered. I'm sure you have better ideas?

The demo server is what it is, a demo. If you want truck routing, you'll have 
to install your own server with your own profiles.

I'm also on Google hangout (using this email) if you'd prefer to talk instead 
of writing longer emails.

Thanks again for getting back to me.

As for the return service you propose, if you use the data for truckers, it 
would be great if you could get those truckers to help contribute data to the 
database. In contrast to the average mapper, they will care about maxweight and 
maxlength properties, and will want to correct those where wrong. In turn, this 
also makes your data and your routes better.
It can be achieved by giving the truckers a training on how to add that data to 
OSM, or give them some option to add notes to OSM (in which case these notes 
will have to be interpreted by regular mappers, and mapped).
Regards,
Sander


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Re: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some commercial support to you/ your projects in return

[Bjorn Madsen]

Splendid. Do you know who to get in touch with from Mapbox?

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Emil Tin  wrote:

> Sounds great.
>
>
>
> Regarding GPS data, perhaps this is something Mapbox would be interested
> in somehow processing. I think they’ve already worked on using GPS data to
> adjust speed estimates in OSRM for cars. They’re also working on extending
> OSRM so dynamic traffic data can be used to update the routing suggesting
> in near real-time.
>
>
>
>
>
> Med venlig hilsen
>
> *Emil Tin*
> IT- og Processpecialist
> Trafik
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> Byens Anvendelse
>
> Njalsgade 13, 1035
> Postboks 380
> 2300 København S
>
> Direkte
>
> 2369 5986
>
> Mobil
>
> 2369 5986
>
> Email
>
> z...@tmf.kk.dk
>
> EAN
>
> 5798009493149
>
>
>
> *Fra:* Bjorn Madsen [mailto:b...@multiagenttechnology.com]
> *Sendt:* 24. november 2015 16:08
> *Til:* Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM
> *Emne:* Re: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some
> commercial support to you/ your projects in return
>
>
>
> Hi Sander & Emil,
>
> Thanks for the quick responses. The usage of the lua script is
> particularly useful.
>
>
>
> I completely respect the limitations of the demo server and can offer to
> set up another server to support the project. 20Tb of traffic should help?
>
>
>
> I've been following the discussions on the OSM forum and they've discussed
> the quality of the map to a great extend.
>
> For planning purposes I appreciate that the main source of error is delay
> in updates. To counter that we are planning to use our commercial help-desk
> to collect information from drivers about detours and unrecorded obstacles
> so that OSM can get the updates with less than a days delay. We can also
> track some vehicles, and capture information such as slowdown caused by
> traffic jams, etc. on major roads. Hopefully this can become a valued
> source of information?
>
>
>
> If somebody has a burning interest in accelerating this, then please feel
> free to get in touch for a sponsorship.
>
> That's the least I can do.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bjorn
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Sander Deryckere 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm writing this as an OSM mapper and user of the OSRM api, I'm not an
> OSRM dev, so I might make some mistakes here.
>
>
>
> 2015-11-24 15:20 GMT+01:00 Bjorn Madsen :
>
> My name is Bjorn, and I'm the director at a commercial project that needs
> something like the Open Source Routing Machine with Openstreet Map where
> you both appear rather active. You can find a little bit about me on
> linkedin  and Multi-Agent Technology
>  London.
>
>
> *Question*: The most pressing question I have is whether OSRM is suitable
> for truck/lorry routing in its current state?
>
>
>
> The passability and driving speed of road types is determined by lua
> scripts (see
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/develop/profiles/car.lua
> for the example car script). So you can at least make one script per
> vehicle type (split up your lorries in discrete types, and have a script
> for every type).
>
> Now, OSRM is suited, but I don't know if OSM data is suited. Lorry tagging
> is something not many mappers do (not many mappers need maxweight or
> maxlength properties of a way), so data may be sparse. But this depends a
> lot on the region you're operating in. It's generally known that Europe has
> better coverage than North America, but even in Europe such tagging will
> depend a lot on the region you're in.
>
>
>
> I have no need to visualize the map data. Only calculation of the path,
> length and duration of the route for heavy goods vehicles for planning
> purposes. This means that I need to check for constraints such as weight,
> low bridges and width-limitations along the path.
>
>
>
> If queries are as quick as on the demo-server for the osrm-project, then
> time is on our side. In my lack insight, I imagine that this can be done in
> iterations, where first a path is chosen for cars, which subsequently is
> inspected for these constraints. If constraints are detected, alternatives
> will need to by discovered. I'm sure you have better ideas?
>
>
>
> The demo server is what it is, a demo. If you want truck routing, you'll
> have to install your own server with your own profiles.
>
>
>
> I'm also on Google hangout (using this email) if you'd prefer to talk
> instead of writing longer emails.
>
>
>
> Thanks again for getting back to me.
>
>
>
> As for the return service you propose, if you use the data for truckers,
> it would be great if you could get those truckers to help contribute data
> to the database. In contrast to the average mapper, they will care about
> maxweight and maxlength properties, and will want to correct those where
> wrong. In turn, this also makes your 

Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: Roads in India: How complete is OpenStreetMap ?

[Arun Ganesh]

Naveen,

> Village roads= Total road - ( PWD (R) [includes SHs + MDRs] + PWD (NH) )
>
>
> This should probably come under other roads rather than village roads
since it includes urban roads as well.

The village roads could just be the panchayat roads.


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] UrbIS aerial pictures for Brussels on OSM - Vues aériennes UrbIS 2015 sur OSM

[Glenn Plas]

Hi,


Bing is usually a bad idea to use as it has issues with offset at the
deepest zoomlevels.   Especially when you use it to 'fix' existing
buildings, you might find some community anger coming your way :)

You end up thinking all OSM Buildings are offset when they are not (if
source=Bing, they probably are).

You can use AGIV for Brussels, it's much more accurate and should be the
one to verify others.

The (new) link just passed on the list , sent by Stijn Rombauts

https://www.agiv.be/news/2015/november/webdiensten-grb-orthofotos-historische-kaarten-vernieuwd

Check out these links to get the idea how to add an AGIV layer:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gilbert54/JOSM

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Using_AGIV_Crab_data/AGIV_Website_as_Reference

Glenn


On 24-11-15 11:37, Bruno Veyckemans wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I became an enthusiastic OSM mapper following Julien Fastré's
> presentation at Foss4G BE last month, and now have big projects to map
> all I can in Brussels. 
> 
> I focus on using Overpass / PHP to create listings and see what's
> missing in the capital (museums, parks, churches, artwork,
> hospitals...), such as: http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (website in
> french, but I take care to add tags in FR/NL/EN... By the way, I would
> be glad if some users helped to fill the blanks).
> 
> My question is about OSM's Bing imagery. I know Brussels has beautiful
> and precise 2015 aerial pictures thanks to UrbIS (see here:
> http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ , ArcGIS server), but I don't know how to use
> it in OSM to map Brussels (their 2015 WMS isn't yet available). Do you
> think it's possible ?
> 
> ---
> 
> Bonjour à tous,
> 
> Je suis devenu un "mapper" enthousiaste d'OSM à la suite de la
> présentation de Julien Fastré au Foss4G BE le mois dernier, et j'ai
> maintenant des projets assez ambitieux pour compléter tout ce que je
> peux en Région bruxelloise.
> 
> J'utilise Overpass et PHP pour générer des listes des infrastructures de
> la capitale (musées, parcs, églises, oeuvres d'art, hôpitaux...) comme
> celle-ci: http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (et je serais heureux si
> certains se joignaient à moi pour compléter les tags manquants).
> 
> Ma question porte sur les images satellites d'OSM, fournies par Bing. Je
> sais que Bruxelles possède des images aériennes de 2015 beaucoup plus
> belles et précises grâce à UrbIS (par exemple ici:
> http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ ), mais je ne sais pas comment les utiliser
> dans les outils d'édition d'OSM. Pensez-vous que ce soit possible ? J'ai
> notamment envie de redessiner les chemins du Cimetière de Bruxelles,
> parfaitement visibles sur BrugIS 2015 mais pas sur Bing, et d'y ajouter
> ses tombes célèbres...
> 
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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Marco Bartalini]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Davide Mangraviti 
wrote:

> Il livello della segnalazione degli errori STRAVA non si può ancora avere
> come layer su JOSM?
>
> ​non credo...

però la segnalazioni errori automatica funziona solo in usa ancora... però
sarebbe una collaborazione da implementare... magari avvalendosi un pò di
tutti quei social sport network che usano come mappe OSM... penso a strava
(che già lo fa), endomondo, runtastic, ecc.ecc... un pò uno scambio di
favori... tu usi le mie mappe osm e in cambio mi dai i tuoi dati su cui
lavorare per migliorare il  servizio...

bisognerebbe proporlo ai vertici che gestiscono OSM...

ma una curiosità??? ma se uno ha un idea da proporre attinente lo sviluppo
di OSM a chi ci si deve rivolgere??? non ho ben capito come funziona
l'organizzazione di osm se c'è un vertice un consiglio di
amministrazione... boh scusate la domanda banale... però alle volte ho
un sacco di idee che potrebberò aiutare osm ma non so a chi
esternalizzarle


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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-24 11:12 GMT+01:00 Davide Mangraviti :

> Il livello della segnalazione degli errori STRAVA non si può ancora avere
> come layer su JOSM?
>



penso di no, hai visto il pulsante "open in JOSM"? Non è la stessa cosa, ma
funziona ;-)

Ciao,
Martin

PS: Se non ti funziona devi attivare "remote control" nelle impostazioni di
JOSM
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[Talk-GB] London Geodata event

[Steve Chilton]

Would anyone like to promote OpenStreetMap at a major geodata event in London 
next week.
The Society of Cartographers (SoC) have a stand at the London Geodata event on 
3 Dec and for the last 3 years have had an OSMer working in tandem.
It is a great networking event, where many of the main players in the mapping 
and data sector are present.
http://www.geoaware.info/#!geodata-london-/c1vct
Currently I am scheduled to cover the day for SoC with a colleague but we would 
love to have an OSMer with us to concentrate on opendata mapping.
Please have a look at the link and if you feel you could offer a half day shift 
then contact myself.
Entry is free and will be registered by us as 3rd SoC person as we have paid 
the stand fee.

Cheers
Steve


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Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: Roads in India: How complete is OpenStreetMap ?

[Naveen Francis]

Hi Arun,

We can keep urban roads and other dept roads
(forest,irrigation,kseb,railway) in *Other Road*.

In village road just panchayat road.

Thanks,
naveenpf.

On 24 November 2015 at 16:40, Arun Ganesh  wrote:

> Naveen,
>
>> Village roads= Total road - ( PWD (R) [includes SHs + MDRs] + PWD (NH) )
>>
>>
>> This should probably come under other roads rather than village roads
> since it includes urban roads as well.
>
> The village roads could just be the panchayat roads.
>
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[OSM-talk-be] UrbIS aerial pictures for Brussels on OSM - Vues aériennes UrbIS 2015 sur OSM

[Bruno Veyckemans]

Hi all,

I became an enthusiastic OSM mapper following Julien Fastré's presentation
at Foss4G BE last month, and now have big projects to map all I can in
Brussels.

I focus on using Overpass / PHP to create listings and see what's missing
in the capital (museums, parks, churches, artwork, hospitals...), such as:
http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (website in french, but I take care to add
tags in FR/NL/EN... By the way, I would be glad if some users helped to
fill the blanks).

My question is about OSM's Bing imagery. I know Brussels has beautiful and
precise 2015 aerial pictures thanks to UrbIS (see here:
http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ , ArcGIS server), but I don't know how to use
it in OSM to map Brussels (their 2015 WMS isn't yet available). Do you
think it's possible ?

---

Bonjour à tous,

Je suis devenu un "mapper" enthousiaste d'OSM à la suite de la présentation
de Julien Fastré au Foss4G BE le mois dernier, et j'ai maintenant des
projets assez ambitieux pour compléter tout ce que je peux en Région
bruxelloise.

J'utilise Overpass et PHP pour générer des listes des infrastructures de la
capitale (musées, parcs, églises, oeuvres d'art, hôpitaux...) comme
celle-ci: http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (et je serais heureux si
certains se joignaient à moi pour compléter les tags manquants).

Ma question porte sur les images satellites d'OSM, fournies par Bing. Je
sais que Bruxelles possède des images aériennes de 2015 beaucoup plus
belles et précises grâce à UrbIS (par exemple ici: http://geoloc.irisnet.be/
), mais je ne sais pas comment les utiliser dans les outils d'édition
d'OSM. Pensez-vous que ce soit possible ? J'ai notamment envie de
redessiner les chemins du Cimetière de Bruxelles, parfaitement visibles sur
BrugIS 2015 mais pas sur Bing, et d'y ajouter ses tombes célèbres...


Merci/Thanks/Dank u et belle journée malgré le #BrusselsLockdown
Bruno - ici.Brussels
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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalazioni errori utenti Strava

[Davide Mangraviti]

Ma l'accordo di collaborazione tra quei geniacci di MapBox e STRAVA si basa
proprio sullo scambio cartografiaOSM - tracce utenti STRAVA. 
E' questa la strada, non c'è scampo... fin quando non ci accorgerà che su
GoogleMaps non ci stanno sentieri, ma quelli stanno altrove...
Figuratevi che conosco gente che fanno Sport Outdoor che si ostina a girare
con App che usano GoogleSatellite on line... io con questi ci ho rinunciato! 

OSM è una Fondazione, fatti un giretto qui per i contatti:
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Main_Page

ciao




Marco Bartalini wrote
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Davide Mangraviti 

> davideman@

> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Il livello della segnalazione degli errori STRAVA non si può ancora avere
>> come layer su JOSM?
>>
>> ​non credo...
> 
> però la segnalazioni errori automatica funziona solo in usa ancora... però
> sarebbe una collaborazione da implementare... magari avvalendosi un pò di
> tutti quei social sport network che usano come mappe OSM... penso a strava
> (che già lo fa), endomondo, runtastic, ecc.ecc... un pò uno scambio di
> favori... tu usi le mie mappe osm e in cambio mi dai i tuoi dati su cui
> lavorare per migliorare il  servizio...
> 
> bisognerebbe proporlo ai vertici che gestiscono OSM...
> 
> ma una curiosità??? ma se uno ha un idea da proporre attinente lo sviluppo
> di OSM a chi ci si deve rivolgere??? non ho ben capito come funziona
> l'organizzazione di osm se c'è un vertice un consiglio di
> amministrazione... boh scusate la domanda banale... però alle volte ho
> un sacco di idee che potrebberò aiutare osm ma non so a chi
> esternalizzarle
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Newark on Trent mappers

[SK53]

I've finally (after 8 months) got around to looking at the OpenMap Local
buildings. I needed them for something else which caused me to download the
SK data. I'll say more in a blog post, but for now here are two comparisons
of OpenMap Local buildings with EA Lidar data (DSM-DTM & Z axis
accentuated):

   - Central Newark (note parish church bottom left):
   https://flic.kr/p/ARUvRv
   - Residential area to E of town centre (note terraces):
   https://flic.kr/p/ARUvQP

I've also put a few comparisons of Nottingham between OSM & OpenMap
buildings.

Generally I'd say that the OpenMap Local buildings, although better than
VMD, still have some of the same problems, and particularly that very
similar buildings (such as the terraced houses) may be shown differently,
or that discrete buildings are merged in unpredictable ways. It's also a
bit disappointing that the main medieval building, the parish church is
just shown as a box. The Lidar data looks to have more promise as a base
line for creating buildings. There may be scope to use the OpenMap Local
buildings on a case-by-case basis where these clearly match the
Lidar/Aerial imagery, or where the building shape is obviously simplified &
can be improved (parish church again). I would advise not touching things
like most of the housing and the merged buildings in the central retail
areas. My experience with working with such data is that splitting &
refining such buildings is often a lot more work than drawing them from
scratch.

I have Geotiffs for the DTM, DSM, their difference & hillshaded versions of
the DSM & difference. However I have failed to get these to load in JOSM.
If someone else know the trick do let me know.

Regards,

Jerry



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> Hi,
>
> Are there any mappers in and around Newark on Trent?
>
> I'd like to import the "OS Open Map - Local - SK" for newark and liked
> to have some other 'local eyes on it.
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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

[Andres Ortiz Haro]

When I first knew about w3w I thought it was some kind of a "solution in search 
of a problem", searching for other views on the matter I actually found a great 
blog post [1] with an explanation and a funny example as to why they don't help 
much, if you don't have time for a long read you can still skip to the last 
part where a fictional scenario using w3w is presented (that's the funny part).


[1] http://blog.telemapics.com/?p=589


Regards,

Andrés


From: Paul Johnson 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:22 AM
To: Martin Koppenhoefer
Cc: openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] What3words



On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer 
> wrote:

2015-11-24 8:54 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale 
>:
I think their idea is that you can quote a location with the words which for 
humans is much easier to memorize and less prone to mishearing over dodgy phone 
and radio links than lat/lon or some other scientific grid reference.


yes, but it has a lot of other disadvantages, e.g. the fact that you can't know 
anything about the location without their API: you can't see from the 3 words 
where approximately a place is, and therefore you also can't see which 
3-word-combinations are close to each other and which are far. Traditional 
addressing works much better for these situations where you already know 
something of the city, e.g. you can bet that Downing Street 11 is not too far 
away from Downing Street 10. Imagine a postman having to deliver a bag of 
letters with only 3-word addresses on them. He'd very likely need some kind of 
device and look up all of them rather than knowing them by heart.

Or in the case of the traveling salesman/field service engineer scenario, I 
couldn't tell you where head.butt.teakettle is but give me a street address 
within about 50-70 miles of Tulsa or Oklahoma City's address origins and I can 
get you to within about a mile of that location and know which side of the road 
to be looking on straight off the top of my head, even if I've never been there 
before.  And if it's an unnamed county road or a section line I happen to know 
the name of, I don't even need a map.

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Re: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some commercial support to you/ your projects in return

[Florian Lohoff]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 02:20:16PM +, Bjorn Madsen wrote:
> 
> I have no need to visualize the map data. Only calculation of the path,
> length and duration of the route for heavy goods vehicles for planning
> purposes. This means that I need to check for constraints such as weight,
> low bridges and width-limitations along the path.
> 

OSRM can do routing for Trucks. The problem might be that you seem 
to want to calculate routing for dynamic height/weight etc.

IMHO this might be difficult to achieve with OSRM. Basically with OSRM
you once prepare OSM data for usage with OSRM based on the type of
vehicle and its restrictions. So you would need to create different sets
for OSRM - Height e.g. 3.6m, 3.8m, 4m and e.g. weight 20to, 30to, 40to.

There is no dynamic evaluation of the prepared graph.

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Re: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some commercial support to you/ your projects in return

[Bjorn Madsen]

Hi Florian,
I presume that can assign vehicles to profiles and redirect the query based
on a prepared dataset.
How much space/ram would you anticipate per profile for all of EU?

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Florian Lohoff  wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 02:20:16PM +, Bjorn Madsen wrote:
> >
> > I have no need to visualize the map data. Only calculation of the path,
> > length and duration of the route for heavy goods vehicles for planning
> > purposes. This means that I need to check for constraints such as weight,
> > low bridges and width-limitations along the path.
> >
>
> OSRM can do routing for Trucks. The problem might be that you seem
> to want to calculate routing for dynamic height/weight etc.
>
> IMHO this might be difficult to achieve with OSRM. Basically with OSRM
> you once prepare OSM data for usage with OSRM based on the type of
> vehicle and its restrictions. So you would need to create different sets
> for OSRM - Height e.g. 3.6m, 3.8m, 4m and e.g. weight 20to, 30to, 40to.
>
> There is no dynamic evaluation of the prepared graph.
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