[talk-ph] Fwd: [Osmf-talk] Directed Editing Policy

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Heads up. The Data Working Group is aiming to develop a policy to govern
directed editing in OSM.

Comments and suggestions are welcome.
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Frederik Ramm" 
Date: Nov 21, 2017 8:56 AM
Subject: [Osmf-talk] Directed Editing Policy
To: "osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org" 
Cc:

Hi,

   the DWG has prepared a policy on "Directed Editing" (former working
title "Organised Editing Policy"). Read it here:

https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Directed_Editing_Policy

The policy picks up (but doesn't slavishly follow) the results of our
survey, where it became obvious that transparency and communications are
what mappers find most important about organised mapping efforts. The
policy replaces the somewhat fuzzy terms of "paid" and "organised"
editing with the concept of "directed editing", which is essentially
when you're required to edit OSM (because of work, a school assignment
etc) and/or when you're told by others exactly what and how to map.

The DWG is interested in feedback on this proposal. Are you currently
involved in some form of editing that would be covered by the policy?
Does the policy present an unnecessary obstacle for some activities? If
you have witnessed organised mapping efforts that caused problems -
would these problems have been avoided if people had adhered to the
proposed policy?

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A problem comes from the name "natural" that to most people (including
> mappers) carries a meaning that excludes some meanings accepted in the
> OSMwiki definition.
> For this reason it would be better to use a tag that carries no distorted
> meaning, say landcover=trees for instance.
>

I can definitely agree with this. landcover=trees carries no weird meanings
unlike natural=wood (natural? man-made?). I can accept using landuse=forest
for land that is used for forestry-related uses (like production of timber
or a national forest), but for everything that is covered by a dense group
of trees, landcover=trees seems the way to go.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Misrepresentation of OSM by HOT?

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Oct 24, 2017 3:08 AM, "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM" 
wrote:


Here is my American, collaborative version of the same issue:


Hi,

I see the new HOT Tasking Manager.

I feel like it does not clearly describe how it it used in the
OpenStreetMap community. It is just a tool for OSM mapping, it is not
the whole of OSM and I think people might be confused possibly.

It also seems like the OpenStreetMap project and community should be
linked to a little more so people can understand and have a path to
becoming good OSM Community folks.

Can we work on improving that in HOT's new Tasking Manager? I have
some ideas that are mostly wording changes or additions and hopefully
would be easy to add.


As a non-American and non European, this (or Mikel's version) is definitely
more pleasant to read but still brings up the same substantive points as
the original email. Because we are an international collaborative
community, I think that we should make the extra effort to be a bit more
polite in how we deal with others and in pointing out problems/points of
improvement especially on written medium where intention/emotion is not
easy to convey (as Mikel pointed out).

~Eugene
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Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:52 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:

> yes, currently it doesn’t seem the deletionists are active in wikidata,
> but also wikipedia was not always like it is today. The notability policy
> is there and one day someone might come and say: these roads are just
> ordinary roads, nothing notable about them to keep, they will likely never
> ever have their own article, image, or page in Wikipedia, Wikimedia
> Commons, or Wikivoyage..
>

But having a corresponding page/article/image is just the 1st of the 3
criteria for keeping an item in Wikidata. These Dutch streets fulfill the
2nd criteria which you already quoted: "The entity must be notable, in the
sense that it can be described using serious and publicly available
references" and the Notability policy only requires that at least 1 of the
3 criteria is met.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:

> From what I have seen so far, this should probably be less of a concern,
> but it is an uncertainty (because it could be interpreted more rigidly in
> the future), I agree. Requirements seem to be much lower than they are for
> wikipedia inclusion, for one because a link to any of these wikimedia
> projects is sufficient: Wikipedia, Wikivoyage, Wikisource, Wikiquote,
> Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikispecies, Wikiversity, or Wikimedia
> Commons (this paragraph is followed by some clarification and limitation).
> In other words, if you want to save your pet wikidata object from deletion
> it is sufficient to take a picture of it and upload it to wm commons.
>
> There's also a very soft criterion in the next paragraph which allows
> object that "[refer] to an instance of a *clearly identifiable conceptual
> or material entity*. The entity must be notable, in the sense that it *can
> be described using serious and publicly available references*."
> It requires references to be "serious" (how subjective is this?).
>

Wikidata's notability policy is actually very liberal. If you're familiar
with the Inclusionist versus Deletionist debate in Wikipedia, Wikidata is
heaven for Inclusionists. For instance, Wikidata now has items for
practically all streets in the Netherlands. 99% of these will likely never
ever have their own article, image, or page in Wikipedia, Wikimedia
Commons, or Wikivoyage.

Here is the import request (bot task) that imported the Dutch streets into
Wikidata:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/RobotMichiel1972_2
And here is the Wikidata SPARQL query to extract the street items:
http://tinyurl.com/y7k6cfc7
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Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:

> Maybe because these are seen as facts and not copyrightable?
>

Ignoring the issue regarding the provenance of geographic coordinates, for
other types of data (like names), it is the position of the Wikimedia
Foundation that facts are not copyrightable and therefore these can be
inputted into Wikidata which has a CC0 license.

As for the issue of the sui generis EU database rights, it is the position
of the Wikimedia Foundation that this only applies to databases created by
EU citizens/corporations/legal bodies and does not apply to databases
created outside the EU. So when importing data from databases originating
from the EU, permission needs to be obtained. See this page for more
information: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Database_Rights
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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:

> This is one of the fields (fundamental to OSM), where wikidata is just a
> mess: distinction of geographically localized communities and
> administrative territorial entities.
>
> Just a few examples:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q123705 neighbourhood is a subclass of
> "human settlement" and "community". So far so good, but then it is also
> "part of municipality"?
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2983893 quarter is a subclass of
> neightbourhood and administrative territorial entity. And it is an instance
> of "designation for an administrative territorial entity".
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q486972 human settlement looks OK at a
> glance
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q515 city is a subclass of "human
> settlement", "administrative territorial entity" and "political territorial
> entity" (are these AND or OR?).
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3957 town is a subclass of "human
> settlement". It is "part of a country". It was also a subclass of political
> territorial entity until today [1]
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q532 village is a subclass of "rural
> settlement" and part of "rural area".
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q14788575 rural settlement is an instance
> of "designation for an administrative territorial entity" and a subclass of
> "human settlement"
> etc.
>
> Take the town example: it has been for some years a subclass of political
> territorial entity and isn't anymore since today. There are tens of
> thousands of objects that are all instances of towns according to wikidata.
> With one edit all of them have lost their "political territorial entity"
> status.
>

I wouldn't worry too much about these very generic classes of human
settlements or administrative areas. It would be better to focus our
attention on the actual Wikidata items on settlements and administrative
areas of each country, like Waldhufendorfs in Germany (
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q351190) or comunes in Italy (
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q747074). These national subclasses should
then be classified as subclasses of whichever appropriate generic
settlements or administrative areas there are.

So I doubt that tens of thousands of towns in Wikidata suddenly lost their
political territorial entity status. I would think that some of them are
still classified as such because of a different path up the ontology tree.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Christoph Hormann  wrote:

> Simple example:  The Faroe Islands are both a country:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/52939
>
> and an archipelago:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3067431
>
> in OSM which are represented as separate features obviously.  Both
> reference the same wikidata item [...]
>

This is most certainly a wrong modeling in Wikidata. While we can just have
one well-written and comprehensive Wikipedia article about the
country/archipelago, in Wikidata, one item should correspond to one
concept. So there should be separate Wikidata items for the archipelago and
the country. The fact that it isn't like that right now is simply because
Wikidata is an ongoing project, just like OSM.

As an example, we have the island of Bali (
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4648) versus the province of Bali (
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3125978), though there is only just one
English Wikipedia article covering both concepts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bali
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [Osmf-talk] DWG survey on organized editing

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Paul Norman 
Date: Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:50 PM
Subject: [Osmf-talk] DWG survey on organized editing
To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org


The Data Working Group is conducting a survey as part of its work on a
policy covering paid mapping.

When OpenStreetMap started, it was largely a project of hobbyists
contributing to OSM in their spare time. They chose freely what to map
and which tools to use, and they took individual responsibility for
their contributions.

The continuing growth and popularity of OSM have also brought more and
more organised mapping efforts, mostly in the form of companies setting
up paid data teams to improve OSM data in specific regions or for
specific use cases, but also unpaid groups like school classes that are
directed to work on OSM.

These organised mapping efforts are an integral part of today's OSM
contribution landscape and, when done well, help make OSM better and
more widely known.

In order to ensure good communication, and a level playing field,
between individual community members and organised editing groups, the
OSMF Data Working Group has been tasked with developing guidelines for
organised groups. These guidelines will above all set out some
transparency requirements for organised groups - things that are already
voluntarily followed by most groups today, like informing the mapping
community about which accounts edit for the team.

We have prepared the following survey with a few questions about such a
policy to give us a better understanding of what the mapping community
expects from such a policy. The survey is aimed at everyone editing (or
planning to edit) in OSM, whether as individual mappers or as part of a
team, and your answers will help us in fleshing out a draft policy.

Within the scope of the survey, and the policy to be written, we define
paid mapping (or paid editing) as any editing in OSM performed by
someone who is told by a third party what to map (and potentially also
how to map it) and who receives money in exchange. We define other
organised mapping (or editing) as any editing that is also steered by a
third party, but where no money is paid.

The survey is available at https://osm-dwg.limequery.org/741554

-- 
Paul Norman
For the OSM Data Working Group

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] artist using osm data

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer 
wrote:

> Now the question is if using OSM data as canvas for his work will require
> him to release it (or the data files with the drawings) under the ODbL. Do
> you agree this kind of use is leading to produced works or is there some
> doubt?
>

The artwork itself is a produced work so it can be released under any
license subject to the requirement that the artist also publish the
specific subset of OSM data he used under the ODbL and attributing OSM. But
if he is only using very few objects from the OSM database, a case can be
made that the underlying subset of OSM data is an insubstantial
extract/derivation and therefore the artist has no further obligation under
the ODbL.
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] iD news: v2.4.0 released

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Bryan Housel 
Date: Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:47 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] iD news: v2.4.0 released
To: osm-talk 


*iD v2.4.0* was released August 25, 2017 and is now available for editing
on openstreetmap.org

  *A few highlights from the release:*

*NEW Esri World Imagery layer:*
Esri has made their World Imagery Service available for OSM use!
Read more here:  https://blogs.esri.com/esri/arcgis/2017/08/24/world-
imagery-in-osm/

*NEW fields on the save screen:*
   • Added a checkbox for mappers to request for someone to review their
edits.
   • Added a Source field to allow users to add multiple sources.
   • Added a Hashtags field to allow users to add multiple event hashtags.
- Hashtags can also be set via the API from a Task Manager or Q/A app.
- Hashtags are automatically extracted from the `comment` field.

*NEW changeset tags for improved changeset analysis*
   • `review_requested=yes`  (“yes” if the user has checked the box)
   • `source=*`  (semicolon delimited, e.g. “survey;gps")
   • `hashtags=*`  (semicolon delimited, e.g. “#MissingMaps;#Tanzania”)
   • `changesets_count=*`  (number of edits the user has made, will be “0”
for someone making their first edit)

  Walkthrough tags, will be set only if a user has made <100 edits:
   • `ideditor:walkthrough_started=yes`  (“yes” if the user started the
walkthrough)
   • `ideditor:walkthrough_progress=*`  (semicolon delimited, e.g. "
welcome;navigation;point;area”)
   • `ideditor:walkthrough_started=yes`  (“yes” if the user completed all
walkthrough sections)

*Performance:*
   • iD can now schedule deferred work in modern browsers with
requestIdleCallback, (contributed by Kushan Joshi).
This means big speedups in parsing, loading data from OSM, and rendering.

*Presets:*
   • Added presets for many theme park attractions (contributed by Willie
Marcel)
   • Added preset for `amenity=shower` (contributed by JamesKingdom)
   • Added preset `emergency=life_ring` (contributed by JamesKingdom)
   • Added presets and icons for railway mapping Buffer Stop, Derailer,
Milestone, Signal, Switch, Train Wash (contributed by JamesKingdom)

...and more!


*Changelog:*
   https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#240

*Twitter:*
   v2.4.0 + new save screen:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/
status/901280750540132352
   Esri World Imagery announcement: https://twitter.com/geogangster/status/
901194478622433280

Follow me on Twitter https://twitter.com/bhousel for more iD news and sneak
peaks.


Thanks! 
Bryan

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Re: [talk-ph] Philippine multilingual place names (English/native language)

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Jherome Miguel 
wrote:

>
> It already looks important to have place names under the name= tag be
> bilingual or multilingual, not just in English, especially when taking
> regard speakers of native languages (Tagalog, Cebuano, Hiligaynon,
> Kapampangan, Ilocano, etc.), and use of native. I am proposing a scheme
> where the name under the place tag would have English as first name, and
> second name in the Tagalog (usually formal), and the third name in the
> native language (on places other than those in Tagalog speaking areas)
>

[Oops. Sent too early.]

So in essence, you want to propose something like what is done in Belgium?

I don't agree. I want the name=* to use just a single name, defaulting to
English as much as possible (since English is an official language of the
Philippines) and avoiding Tagalog/Filipino because that is a sensitive
issue outside of native Tagalog-speaking areas.

The only time we will use non-native English names is when the native form
is overwhelmingly used even in English texts such as in English news
articles, English books, and English academic papers. For example, in
practically every English news article about the Marcos burial issue, every
news outlet used the name "Libingan ng mga Bayani" instead of "Cemetery of
Heroes" or "Heroes' Cemetery". So name=Libingan ng mga Bayani is used. This
goes for other places such as "Liwasang Bonifacio" (not "Bonifacio Park" or
"Bonifacio Square" or "Bonifacio Plaza"), "Malacañang sa Sugbo" (not
"Malacañang in Cebu"), "Paseo de Roxas" (not "Roxas Path"), "Zamboanga del
Norte" (not "Northern Zamboanga"), etc.

~Eugene
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Re: [talk-ph] Philippine multilingual place names (English/native language)

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Jherome Miguel 
wrote:

>
> It already looks important to have place names under the name= tag be
> bilingual or multilingual, not just in English, especially when taking
> regard speakers of native languages (Tagalog, Cebuano, Hiligaynon,
> Kapampangan, Ilocano, etc.), and use of native. I am proposing a scheme
> where the name under the place tag would have English as first name, and
> second name in the Tagalog (usually formal), and the third name in the
> native language (on places other than those in Tagalog speaking areas)
>

So in essence, you want to propose something like what is done in Belgium
or Switzerland?
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Awards 2017

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Ilya Zverev 
Date: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 5:54 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Awards 2017
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


Hi folks,

Yesterday a 500th OSM member has voted at the OSM Awards. And we have just
a week left for the other 500 to vote. Which means you: go to the...

http://awards.osmz.ru/

...right now, read through the names and descriptions, and choose people
you think should be awarded something for their work. Because you won't
have another chance at saying thanks to them this year. Unless you do it
directly, which is obviously better. Still, show them your support by going
to the website and voting.

The voting closes on 16th of August. And in a few days, at the social event
of the State of the Map 2017, the winners will be announced. The blog post
will follow shortly after that.

Ilya
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Awards 2017: the voting is open!

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Ilya Zverev 
Date: Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:10 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Awards 2017: the voting is open!
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


Hi,

The community voting for the OpenStreetMap Awards 2017 is open! Please head
to the awards website and choose nominees you think are worthy of the
award. This time you are not limited to one vote per category, so you won't
have to make hard choices between equally good nominees.

http://awards.osmz.ru/

In the OSM blog there will be a series of posts about nominees. We have 45
of these now, so it is not simple to choose among them in at once. Today we
look at the "Core Systems" and "Innovation" categories:

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/07/20/choose-the-
best-among-us-at-osm-awards-2017/

Please vote and see you at the State of the Map!

Thanks,
Ilya
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Re: [talk-ph] GLONASS

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

GPS is the American system while GLONASS is the Russian system. Also,
Galileo is the EU system.

GLONASS and Galileo were developed so that Russia and the EU do not have to
depend on the American system. GPS, after all, is a technology developed
originally for military purposes.

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Jim Morgan  wrote:

> Just saw a phone advertised with GPS and A-GLONASS, so I looked it up.
>
> I know the current GPS system is old and up for retirement at some point.
> Maybe this is the replacement?
>
> https://beebom.com/what-is-glonass-and-how-it-is-different-from-gps/
>
> Oh, apparently iPhones already use as a GPS+GLONASS combination. Never
> knew ...
>
> Jim
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Re: [talk-ph] Geo mystery: What is this weird northeast line running from San Juan to Montalban?

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi all,

I'm resurrecting this old thread[0] because we've been discussing Metro
Manila's water system as part of the fire hydrant mapping exercise during
the mapathon earlier.[1] It turns out that before we have the current San
Juan Reservoir,[2] there was an older Spanish-era reservoir named El
Deposito located in what is now the Pinaglabanan Shrine in San Juan. This
is apparently where the long straight pipeline from Montalban terminated.
You can read a bit of the history of El Deposito on Wikipedia[3] and on the
historical marker installed by the National Historical Commission of the
Philippines.[4] The El Deposito is also roughly in the middle of the
straight line connecting the Santolan Waterworks in Pasig and Intramuros.

You can now see these two lines, one Spanish-era, and the other
American-era, on a map created by Erwin.[5] As you can see, these two lines
converge at El Deposito!

This is really fascinating!

[0] Archives start here:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2011-April/003152.html
[1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2017-June/006115.html
[2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/108541188
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Deposito
[4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:El_Deposito_NHCP_historical_marker.jpg
[5] http://u.osmfr.org/m/151838/

~Eugene



On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> More research confirming the water pipeline theory:
>
> -
>
> 1) http://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2000/jun2000/gr_109111_2000.html
>
> Quote: "Long before World War II, MWSS buried a 42-inch diameter steel
> aqueduct pipeline under the subject parcels of land. The pipeline drew
> water from the Wawa Dam in Montalban, Rizal to the Balara Filters in
> Quezon City. Fifteen (15) kilometers long, it ran through the
> municipalities of Montalban, San Mateo and Marikina."
>
> The MWSS property in Balara <http://osm.org/go/4zhTl11z?m> does indeed
> lie close to the "line".
>
> -
>
> 2) http://inquiry.theguidon.com/2009/08/service-for-the-settlers/
>
> Quote: "Daan Tubo and Ronas Garden are owned by Manila Water Services
> and Meralco, respectively."
>
> Daan Tubo in this case is the informal settler area along Katipunan
> beside UP Diliman <http://osm.org/go/4zhTkJ36H-->.
>
> -
>
> Mystery closed?
>
> I must say that I find it amazing that this unused pipeline still
> shows it's presence even to this day in the form of roads, barangay
> boundaries, and informal settlers. :-D
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:36 PM, maning sambale
> <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This would be my guess as well.
> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> 2) This is a water pipeline.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > maning
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Re: [OSM-talk] new Wikidata+OSM data in one RDF database

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

So what is the license of this combined database and is this combined
database a whole database or a collective database? Note that Wikidata is
under CC0 while OSM is under ODbL.

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Yuri Astrakhan 
wrote:

> TLDR: A SPARQL (rdf) database with both OSM and Wikidata data is up for
> testing.  Allows massive cross-referenced queries between two datasets. The
> service is a test, and needs a permanent home to stay alive.
>
> Overpass Turbo is awesome, but sadly it does not have data from Wikidata,
> nor does it support some SQL-like conditions. I have setup a temporary RDF
> database that has both OSM & Wikidata. You can use SPARQL queries to find:
>
> * All OSM objects with wikidata tag that references a Wikipedia
> disambiguation page. Get the name of the page in first available language
> ru, fr, de, en.http://tinyurl.com/mzlfb26
>
> * OSM relations with wikidata tag pointing to a person (also tries
> multiple language fallbacks).  http://tinyurl.com/m6fh3wx
>
> * OSM relations with duplicate Wikidata IDs http://tinyurl.com/mvhhogx
>
>
> == OSM data structure ==
> osmnode, osmway, osmrel - OSM object prefix, e.g.  osmnode:1234
> osmt - tag, e.g.  osmt:name:en  (only has tags with latin chars, -, _, :,
> digits
> osmm - meta data about the object -- type, isClosed, version.
>
> I try to preserve OSM data without much changes. Every tag's value is
> stored as a string, except for wikidata and wikipedia tags which are
> converted to a URL, the same format as stored in Wikidata.
>
> osmway:29453885
>   osmt:name "Samina";
>   osmt:waterway "river";
>   osmt:wikidata wd:Q156065;
>   osmt:wikipedia ;
>   osmm:type "w";    could be "r", "w", and "n"
>   osmm:isClosed false;     this meta property is only for OSM ways
>   osmm:version 24.
>
> Wikidata data structure is identical to https://query.wikidata.org (see
> help)
>
>
> == Current limitations ==
> * Only includes OSM objects with either "wikidata" or "wikipedia" tags
> * The OSM data only contains tags with only Latin letters, digits and
> symbols - : _
> * OSM geometry info is not imported, e.g. no center point or bounding box,
> except for osmm:isClosed (true/false) property for ways.
> * Does not include OSM object inheritance data - e.g. cannot query for
> "find a node that is part of a way which is part of a relation that has
> wikidata tag that ..."
> * Wikidata is updated every second, but OSM does not yet update at all,
> imported from a full db dump as of a few days ago.
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Re: [talk-ph] Usability of translating Wikidata world places to Tagalog/Filipino

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

I'd like to be a bit of a purist. If you want to use the understandable
everyday language that people use, then name that language "Taglish". So
you have: "Kelan ang flight niya papuntang Germany?" But if you are going
to use the language name "Tagalog", then you should use the actual language
and not the code-switching variant. ("Kailan ang lipad niya papuntang
Alemanya"?)

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Ronny Ager-Wick  wrote:

> In my honest opinion, I think most people, Tagalog speaking included,
> would be confused rather than helped by Alemanya and Estados Unidos. Nobody
> calls them that! And the C/K and V/B replacement isn't really helpful
> either. I don't know anyone who would use anything but the original
> spelling of Cavite and Bulacan - not to mention China. Hapon, maybe... I
> have heard some old people say it, but if they were to search it, I can't
> imagine anyone using that rather than Japan. Although most people who are
> old enough to say Hapon instead of Japan tend not to search the net that
> much... It's a generalization - no offense! :)
>
> I'd say it undesirable to use Tagalog names - doesn't help anybody and
> outright confuses most people.
>
> Take into account that the Filipinos I know is a statistically small
> sample and my opinions are based on this small sample.
> Ronny.
>
>
>
> On 2017-05-04 12:55, maning sambale wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I started this conversation in OSMPH slack but would like to open
>> discussion in this list.  Also apologies if this is not entirely
>> related to OSM but a very close project since as per Eugene's
>> assessment wikidata community is not very active in the Philippines.
>>
>> Our team at Mapbox is pushing for completing Wikidata places
>> translation to several languages [0] including Filipino/Tagalog.  The
>> aim is to connect the two projects and leverage from the data that
>> both project have (location in OSM, translations in Wikidata). [1]
>>
>> Eugene posted suggestions, here's our conv in Slack
>>
>> maning [April 26th at 10:49 AM]
>> @here what's our best practice for name tagalog?  We use english names
>> right?
>>
>> seav [Apr 26]
>> We should use the Tagalog translation if it is available and well
>> attested. Examples: Maynila (Manila), Kabite (Cavite), Bulakan
>> (Bulacan), Hilagang Samar (Northern Samar), Alemanya (Germany),
>> Estados Unidos (United States), Hapon (Japan), Tsina (China).
>>
>> My question is while this is desirable, is it essential for locals in
>> the Philippines or travelling abroad to use a navigation app with
>> translated places in Filipino/Tagalog.  In most cases Filipinos are
>> comfortable with using English names for places (e.g. "Germany"
>> instead of "Alemanya")
>>
>> [0] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Planemad_mapbox/World_pla
>> ces_translation_project
>> [1] https://www.mapbox.com/blog/scaling-openstreetmap-wikidata-knowledge/
>>
>>
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Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Of the 3 options, I also favor option 3. For the record, I've been saying
that landuse=farmland (or landuse=farm before) should be tagged on the
entire farm area and not on individual fields (or rice paddies if
crop=rice). See this post of mine from 2009:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-November/001545.html

There's also a relevant discussion in 2014 regarding the mapping of
individual farm fields/paddies (thread archive is split into two months):

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-August/005229.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-October/005318.html

For the specific case of rice paddies, there are actually two ways you can
go about mapping things (once you've marked up the whole area as a single
landuse=farmland):

1. Mark the borders between paddies as ways as these are raised lines of
land that serve as walls to hold the water and secondarily serve as
footpaths (but shouldn't be tagged as highway=*) to access individual
paddies. There was the suggestion to use man_made=bund or
man_made=embankment or something similar but no decision was made.

2. Mark the paddies as individual polygons.

~Eugene

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 3:28 AM, David Groom <revi...@pacific-rim.net> wrote:

>
> During early April I looked at  nodes/ways/relations tagged as
> landuse=farm as reclassified many of them as appropriate.
>
> Howver , in some places I noted that individual fields had been tagged
> using landuse = farm, for example:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/11.225924767247454/
> 124.54216374231005
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/16.933969/121.13637
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/14.883274660783613/
> 120.25851326487962
>
>
> At present I have done nothing with these ways
>
> The standard use in OSM for landuse=farmland is for it to be used on
> larger areas, rather than individual fields
>
> There appears to be no approved tag in OSM for fields, (though taginfo
> <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/field#values> shows field=yes
> used on 388 occasions worldwide)
>
> There seem to be a number of possibilities regarding these ways:
>
> 1) retag them as landuse=farmland
> 2) delete them and draw a single way round the larger outline of all the
> adjacent fields and tag this as landuse=farmland
> 3) retag  them as field=yes, and also draw a single way round the larger
> outline of all the adjacent fields and tag this as landuse=farmland.
>
> Of these I think I favour approach 3 as it keeps the field data in OSM
> (someone might have a use for this)
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Regards
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "David Groom" <revi...@pacific-rim.net>
> To: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>
> Sent: 31/03/2017 12:23:53
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm
>
> I don't think it will take too long for one person to do this, but I may
> be mistaken.
>
> It will also be an opportunity to look at some of the areas tagged as
> "landuse = farm", and merge them into adjacent areas where appropriate.
>
> David
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Eugene Alvin Villar" <sea...@gmail.com>
> To: "David Groom" <revi...@pacific-rim.net>
> Cc: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>
> Sent: 30/03/2017 00:56:18
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:06 PM, David Groom <revi...@pacific-rim.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Shall I start looking at the  relations and ways and change where
>> appropriate from "landuse = farm" to "landuse = farmland"?
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>
> Go for it! Would it also make sense to turn this into a Maproulette task?
>
> ~Eugene
>
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Re: [talk-ph] Batangas City data cleanup

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

By the way, it seems the user is on Facebook and it says there that she is
with Batangas City's City Planning and Development Office (CPDO):
https://www.facebook.com/imeeperez.veedor

What I'm surprised with is she is using JOSM. This is not a typical
first-user editor so she must have been trained on using JOSM somewhere by
someone.

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ouch. This user's edits are very messy. Can you confirm that the user has
> never replied to any message or changeset comment you did? If so, maybe we
> can ask the Data Working Group to block the user until the user has read
> the block message.
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Batangas City needs to be cleaned up, as the data there is becoming
>> affected (some POI's are being affected). Most edits are being done on
>> weekdays (except holidays), and most of the users are possibly city
>> government employees, which have not disclosed their editing background. I
>> messaged those users or commented on several changesets they did, but they
>> still do not reply. There are too many data already edited for one user to
>> cleanup, and other mappers should do.
>>
>> Here are tasks for Batangas City:
>>
>> 1. Monitor latest edits by local users. Please keep a monitor on
>> changesets around Batangas City, and closely inspect map data being edited,
>> then do the appropriate action (clean-up tags, message user, revert to a
>> previous version, or leave it alone). Priority is edits by
>> "imeeperezveedor" (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imeeperezveedor),
>> that I have a hard time to deal with that user's edits, as it repeatedly
>> touched several POI's, and renamed them to "commercial". A few POIs and
>> named buildings affected by that user's changesets include Jollibee
>> (Kumintang Ilaya branch), BPI (Batangas City Jose P Laurel Highway branch),
>> BDO (Batangas Rizal Avenue branch), STI Academic Center Batangas, Nuciti
>> Central, Boy Scouts of the Philippines Batangas City Council, Imperial
>> Appliance Plaza, N.J. Dimaano Building, Recto and Ofelia Buildings A and B,
>> Junction Commercial Complex, Dayton Hotel, and Reyes Haircutters.
>>
>> 2. Cleanup data touched in previous changesets. Cleanup possible
>> redundant tags or replace them with an appropriate tag. Revert name changes
>> to existing POI's occupying buildings, and named buildings (mostly done by
>> "imeeperezveedor".)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> TagaSanPedroAko
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Re: [talk-ph] Batangas City data cleanup

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Ervin,

Unfortunately, you did not really fix her edits. What you should have done
instead of doing a wholesale removal of the name=* and landuse=* tags is to
check what are the existing tags that were overwritten by the user.

For example, you "fixed" way 360903949 by removing the name=* and landuse=*
tags. But what you should have done instead is to check the history and
restored the old name=Vicmar Plaza tag.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/360903949/history

I am afraid that we will also need to clean-up *your* edits as well.

~Eugene


On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Ervin Malicdem <schad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fixed "her" edits for the meantime.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47891655
>
> Ervin M.
> *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
> motherland.
> http://www.s1expeditions.com
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ouch. This user's edits are very messy. Can you confirm that the user has
>> never replied to any message or changeset comment you did? If so, maybe we
>> can ask the Data Working Group to block the user until the user has read
>> the block message.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Batangas City needs to be cleaned up, as the data there is becoming
>>> affected (some POI's are being affected). Most edits are being done on
>>> weekdays (except holidays), and most of the users are possibly city
>>> government employees, which have not disclosed their editing background. I
>>> messaged those users or commented on several changesets they did, but they
>>> still do not reply. There are too many data already edited for one user to
>>> cleanup, and other mappers should do.
>>>
>>> Here are tasks for Batangas City:
>>>
>>> 1. Monitor latest edits by local users. Please keep a monitor on
>>> changesets around Batangas City, and closely inspect map data being edited,
>>> then do the appropriate action (clean-up tags, message user, revert to a
>>> previous version, or leave it alone). Priority is edits by
>>> "imeeperezveedor" (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imeeperezveedor),
>>> that I have a hard time to deal with that user's edits, as it repeatedly
>>> touched several POI's, and renamed them to "commercial". A few POIs and
>>> named buildings affected by that user's changesets include Jollibee
>>> (Kumintang Ilaya branch), BPI (Batangas City Jose P Laurel Highway branch),
>>> BDO (Batangas Rizal Avenue branch), STI Academic Center Batangas, Nuciti
>>> Central, Boy Scouts of the Philippines Batangas City Council, Imperial
>>> Appliance Plaza, N.J. Dimaano Building, Recto and Ofelia Buildings A and B,
>>> Junction Commercial Complex, Dayton Hotel, and Reyes Haircutters.
>>>
>>> 2. Cleanup data touched in previous changesets. Cleanup possible
>>> redundant tags or replace them with an appropriate tag. Revert name changes
>>> to existing POI's occupying buildings, and named buildings (mostly done by
>>> "imeeperezveedor".)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> TagaSanPedroAko
>>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Updated node density maps

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello all,

I have updated the node density maps for April 1, 2017:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps

Some observations:
- The effect of Project NOAH's building mapping tasks is visible. We see
increased activity in Bataan, Ilocos, Batangas, Leyte, and Misamis
Oriental. The number of building footprints in the country now exceeds 4
million.
- There's quite a bit of activity in San Jose, Antique. This is apparently
a Missing Maps activity c/o the American Red Cross:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2449

Until the next quarterly update! :-)

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have updated the node density maps for January 1, 2017:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps
>
> Some observations:
> - Project NOAH's building mapping tasks for Batangas, Samar, Misamis
> Oriental, Aurora, Abra, and Ilocos Norte are visible
> - Continued activity in ADB's project in Padre Burgos, Quezon and Santa
> Josefa, Agusan del Sur is
> also visible
> - There's been an increase in mapping activity in Rally's pet project with
> the LGUs Mamburao, Occidental Mindoro
> - There are some pockets of activity in Caramoan Peninsula and south of
> Dumaguete
> - Ervin's expedition to Balabac, Palawan is visible
>
> ~Eugene
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have updated the node density maps for October 1, 2016:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps
>>
>> Some observations:
>> - Project NOAH's building mapping tasks for Zambales, Taguig, Biliran,
>> and Misamis Oriental are visible
>> - ADB's project in Padre Burgos, Quezon and Santa Josefa, Agusan del Sur
>> is also visible
>> - There's a lot of activity in Ilocos Sur and Abra (does anybody have any
>> idea what this is?)
>> - I believe the activity in Occidental Mindoro is due to Rally's pet
>> project with the LGUs of Abra de Ilog and Mamburao
>> - The Cabanatuan–Dingalan corridor seems to be active
>> - The Lingayen–Dagupan area is also active
>> - There's also a lot of mapping in Surigao del Norte and Dinagat Islands
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have updated the node density maps for July 1, 2016:
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps
>>>
>>> Some observations:
>>> - The full impact of Project NOAH's task #1636 in Cavite is now visible
>>> - The initial activity of Project NOAH's task #1966 in Zambales can be
>>> seen
>>> - There are pockets of activity in northern Cebu, eastern Leyte, and
>>> Butuan
>>>
>>> ~Eugene
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM, maning sambale <
>>> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for this Eugene.  Interesting that Metro Manila is still getting
>>>> updated.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hello all,
>>>> >
>>>> > I've completed the node density maps for 2015 and 2016-to-date:
>>>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps
>>>> >
>>>> > Some things that I've noticed:
>>>> > - 2016 Q1 shows activity due to HOT tasks #1129 (Missing Maps -
>>>> Leyte),
>>>> > #1636 (Project NOAH - Cavite), and #1684 (Project NOAH - Camiguin)
>>>> > - 2015 Q4 shows a lot of activity in La Union and Benguet. I don't
>>>> know
>>>> > what's the reason.
>>>> > - 2015 Q2 shows the activity from the Luzon roads mapping project
>>>> >
>>>> > ~Eugene
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Re: [talk-ph] Missing Road

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Jim Morgan  wrote:

> Also, you used to be able to right click on the map to load the image.
> Seems like OSM has hijacked the right click menu.
>

This was announced here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mcld/diary/40503
And debated extensively starting here:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2017-February/029713.html

You can still access the normal browser context menu by doing
Shift+Right-click in Firefox and Chrome.

It turns out that Leaflet, the JS map library that powers the map, will be
moving towards displaying the map tiles not as individual HTML images but
as a seamless canvas so even if the new OSM right-click menu wasn't
implemented, you won't be able to access the tile by right-click anyway.
But you can still use your browser dev tools to access the map tile.
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Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:06 PM, David Groom 
wrote:

>
> Shall I start looking at the  relations and ways and change where
> appropriate from "landuse = farm" to "landuse = farmland"?
>
> What do you think?
>

Go for it! Would it also make sense to turn this into a Maproulette task?

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #346 28/02/2017-06/03/2017

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-- Forwarded message --
From: weeklyteam 
Date: Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 3:13 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #346 28/02/2017-06/03/2017
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 346,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8845/

Enjoy!

weeklyOSM?
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #345 21/02/2017-27/02/2017

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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Date: Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:08 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #345 21/02/2017-27/02/2017
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 345,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8796/

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] iD is getting a new menu...

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

-- Forwarded message --
From: "Bryan Housel" 
Date: Feb 26, 2017 10:04 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] iD is getting a new menu...
To: "osm-talk" 
Cc:

Just wanted to pre-announce that the next version of iD (coming sometime in
March) will have a new menu!
Here’s a picture:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/835607333640232962

We don’t often change iD’s user interface, but we felt that iD was starting
to outgrow the “radial menu”, and it was time to move to a more traditional
right-click context menu.  The new edit menu will only pop up when the user
right-clicks, so it will not get in the way of editing as much as the old
menu did.  Also by switching from a circular shape to a vertical bar, we
are less constrained by the number of items that we can add to the menu.

Details about how the work came together over the past month, and
screenshots can be found here:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/3753
Thanks to Kushan for much of the code, and Rasagy for the design work.

Please try out editing with the new menu by using the mirror here:
https://openstreetmap.us/iD/master/

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #344 14/02/2017-20/02/2017

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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Date: Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 5:24 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #344 14/02/2017-20/02/2017
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 344,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8772/

Enjoy!

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Re: [talk-ph] Residential.

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

So somebody accidentally renamed the Panay island relation to "Residential"
last month: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45453828

This was already corrected earlier this month:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45726701

The wrong label is persisting on the map because low zoom level tiles are
not refreshed as often. I'm not sure when these are refreshed.

~Eugene

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 11:16 PM, Jim Morgan  wrote:

> Can't quite figure this out. Do we have Residential Island here in
> Philippines?
>
> Jim
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #343 07/02/2017-13/02/2017

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 343,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8745/

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #342 31/01/2017-06/02/2017

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 342,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8725/

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-dev] iD news: v2.1.0 released

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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From: Bryan Housel 
Date: Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 11:55 PM
Subject: [OSM-dev] iD news: v2.1.0 released
To: osm-dev 


*iD v2.1.0* was released Feb 4 2017 and is now available for editing on
openstreetmap.org

Here are some of our favorite new features:
- Disconnected endpoints now appear slightly larger, and iD will warn if a
user creates a disconnected road
- Improved save flow directs users to enter their comment and upload their
changes (some users would miss that step)
- RTL languages like Arabic and Hebrew are now drawn correctly along line
paths (thanks Milad Karbasizadeh)
- Improved checks to avoid creation of duplicate consecutive nodes and
invalid geometries (thanks slhh)
- Users must select vertices and nodes before dragging them, preventing
accidental drags (thanks Eduard Popov)
- Now support KML and GeoJSON in addition to GPX files (thanks Mert Emin
Kalender)
- Icons were refreshed to use the latest Maki iconset (thanks Ajith Ranka)
- Better country-specific customization of address fields (thanks
Natsuyasumi)
- Reflect operations!  You can now reflect shapes with T ↔️ and Y ↕️
 (thanks Psigio)

By my count, 17 people contributed to this release, which feels like a
record high.  Thank you everyone for an awesome start to 2017!

If you are interested in contributing, or just want to see what we are up
to, please follow and star the iD project on GitHub https://github.com/
openstreetmap/iD


Changelog:
   https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#210

Twitter:
  v2.1.0: https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/827875204546306049
  New Icons: https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/827724917806346241
  Follow me on Twitter https://twitter.com/bhousel for more iD updates.


Thanks! 
Bryan


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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 340,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8656/

Enjoy!

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #339 10/01/2017-16/01/2017

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 339,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8619/

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #338 03/01/2016-09/01/2017

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 338,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8595/

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Re: [OSM-talk] Public GPS Traces

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Canonical blog post that explains this layer:
https://www.mapbox.com/blog/openstreetmap-gps-layer/

On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 1:41 AM, Dave F  wrote:

> Main Page > Map Layers > Public GPS Traces
>
> What do the different colours represent for this feature?
>
> DaveF
>
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #337 27/12/2016-02/01/2017

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 337,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8535/

We apoligize to send a wrong URL in our last email.

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Re: [talk-ph] Updated node density maps

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello all,

I have updated the node density maps for January 1, 2017:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps

Some observations:
- Project NOAH's building mapping tasks for Batangas, Samar, Misamis
Oriental, Aurora, Abra, and Ilocos Norte are visible
- Continued activity in ADB's project in Padre Burgos, Quezon and Santa
Josefa, Agusan del Sur is
also visible
- There's been an increase in mapping activity in Rally's pet project with
the LGUs Mamburao, Occidental Mindoro
- There are some pockets of activity in Caramoan Peninsula and south of
Dumaguete
- Ervin's expedition to Balabac, Palawan is visible

~Eugene


On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have updated the node density maps for October 1, 2016:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps
>
> Some observations:
> - Project NOAH's building mapping tasks for Zambales, Taguig, Biliran,
> and Misamis Oriental are visible
> - ADB's project in Padre Burgos, Quezon and Santa Josefa, Agusan del Sur
> is also visible
> - There's a lot of activity in Ilocos Sur and Abra (does anybody have any
> idea what this is?)
> - I believe the activity in Occidental Mindoro is due to Rally's pet
> project with the LGUs of Abra de Ilog and Mamburao
> - The Cabanatuan–Dingalan corridor seems to be active
> - The Lingayen–Dagupan area is also active
> - There's also a lot of mapping in Surigao del Norte and Dinagat Islands
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have updated the node density maps for July 1, 2016:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps
>>
>> Some observations:
>> - The full impact of Project NOAH's task #1636 in Cavite is now visible
>> - The initial activity of Project NOAH's task #1966 in Zambales can be
>> seen
>> - There are pockets of activity in northern Cebu, eastern Leyte, and
>> Butuan
>>
>> ~Eugene
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM, maning sambale <
>> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for this Eugene.  Interesting that Metro Manila is still getting
>>> updated.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hello all,
>>> >
>>> > I've completed the node density maps for 2015 and 2016-to-date:
>>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps
>>> >
>>> > Some things that I've noticed:
>>> > - 2016 Q1 shows activity due to HOT tasks #1129 (Missing Maps - Leyte),
>>> > #1636 (Project NOAH - Cavite), and #1684 (Project NOAH - Camiguin)
>>> > - 2015 Q4 shows a lot of activity in La Union and Benguet. I don't know
>>> > what's the reason.
>>> > - 2015 Q2 shows the activity from the Luzon roads mapping project
>>> >
>>> > ~Eugene
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[talk-ph] OSM 2016 recap

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Here's a nice recap from the OpenStreetMap Foundation on OSM in 2016:

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2016/12/31/openstreetmap-recap-2016/
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[talk-ph] OSMPH data stats update for 2017

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi all,

I'm crunching the 2017-01-01 OSMPH stats and there has been a significant
increase in the data compared to 2016-10-01:

OSM raw XML file size: +19% (from 4537MB to 5419MB)
Nodes: +18% (from 21,845,536 to 25,756,789)
Ways: +26% (from 3,435,740 to 4,335,107) *(!!!)*
Relations: +6% (from 9,076 to 9,611)
Buildings: +33% (from 2,718,146 to 3,602,057) *(!!!)*

I don't have to confirm that this big increase is definitely due to
ProjectNOAH's OSM mapping activities. Great work! (But help in validating
the HOT tasking manager tiles used by Project NOAH is greatly appreciated!)

I will most probably release the updated node density maps by tomorrow.

~Eugene
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[talk-ph] Let's use place=square tag for town plazas?

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello all,

There's a discussion on the talk mailing list about rendering the
relatively new tag place=square[1] on the default OSM base map. This tag is
used for town squares (also known as plaza in Spain, place in France, Platz
in Germany, and piazza in Italy).

I suggest that we retag many of our town plazas as place=square. Currently
we tag these as either leisure=park, such as Plaza Pershing[2] in Zamboanga
City, or highway=pedestrian + area=yes, such as Plaza Miranda[3] in Quiapo,
Manila.

While I think plazas that look or feel like parks (has lawns and many
plants) can still remain as leisure=park, I think plazas that are mostly
pedestrian in structure should be retagged as place=square and only tag the
actual pedestrian areas inside the plaza as highway=pedestrian + area=yes.

For example, I think Plaza Santa Cruz[4] in Manila is not currently mapped
correctly because the map contains a solid pedestrian area but this is not
correct because Carriedo Fountain is in the middle and pedestrians cannot
really walk over the fountain. I think the whole area, including the roads,
should be tagged place=square + name=Plaza Santa Ana, and only the small
portion that is pedestrian, excluding the Carriedo Fountain, should be
tagged highway=pedestrian + area=yes.

What do you all think?

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dsquare
[2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/235474192
[3] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28788630
[4] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34317040
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #336 20/12/2016-26/12/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 336,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8514/

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #335 13/12/2016-19/12/2016

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To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 335,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8494/

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Re: [talk-ph] World Bank's Open Traffic initiative (with Metro Manila as an example)

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

More links:

Interactive map showing traffic data for August 5, 2016:
https://mapzen.github.io/open-traffic-poc-data-demo/#16/14.5567/121.0235

World Bank's April 5 press release for OpenTraffic being launched in the
Philippines:
http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2016/04/05/philippines-real-time-data-can-improve-traffic-management-in

World Bank's December 19 press release launching the Open Transport
Partnership:
http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2016/12/19/the-world-bank-launches-new-open-transport-partnership-to-improve-transportation-through-open-data


On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The World Bank has an initiative called Open Traffic, which seems to be an
> open, but not real-time, version of Waze. Mapzen has a blog article about
> joining this initiative and it uses Metro Manila traffic as an example
> illustration, using anonymized data from Grab.
>
> https://mapzen.com/blog/announcing-open-traffic/
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[talk-ph] World Bank's Open Traffic initiative (with Metro Manila as an example)

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

The World Bank has an initiative called Open Traffic, which seems to be an
open, but not real-time, version of Waze. Mapzen has a blog article about
joining this initiative and it uses Metro Manila traffic as an example
illustration, using anonymized data from Grab.

https://mapzen.com/blog/announcing-open-traffic/
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #334 06/12/2016-12/12/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 334,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
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http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8472/

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #333 29/11/2016-05/12/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 333,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8419/

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[talk-ph] State of the Map 2017 will be in Japan!

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

"Come 2017 it will have been 5 years since the international community
gathered in Asia. Today we are delighted to announce that we will be back
in Japan for the annual ‘State of the Map’ gathering."

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2016/12/07/announcing-the-10th-state-of-the-map/
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #332 11/22/2016-11/28/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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Subject: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #332 11/22/2016-11/28/2016
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 332,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8390/

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #330 11/08/2016-11/14/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8330/

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Re: [talk-ph] New Traffic Flow

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Jim,

I was in the area yesterday and was able to check the new traffic flow.
Aside from a missing no-u-turn restriction (from Ayala Avenue Extension
northbound via the Kamagong intersection), I think what you did is
accurate. In addition, it seems they are also preparing to open up the
Ayala–Malugay intersection.

~Eugene


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Jim Morgan  wrote:

> Hiya,
>
> Tried to update the roads around the junction of Kamagong, Metropolitan
> and Ayala Ave with 4 sets of new traffic lights, new one-way system.
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43503640
>
> I think functionally it describes the new situation, but it could probably
> be done better. Does it make sense to some of the more experienced traffic
> flow experts here? Feel free to make it prettier, or ask me questions on-
> or off-list if you need clarification.
>
> Jim.
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Re: [talk-ph] Problematical OpenStreetMap edits around "null island"

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Andy,

Thank you for bringing this up. Although I am not connected with Project
NOAH, there are a few members of Project NOAH on this mailing list but I am
not sure if they have already read this email so I'm pinging them on other
channels. Right now, I am assuming that the user is only experimenting with
some features of JOSM.

Regards,
Eugene



On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Andy Townsend  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I wonder if anyone here can help.  I'm trying to track down the cause of a
> problem where rogue data is getting added around latitude 0, longitude 0 in
> the middle of the Atlandic.
>
> The latest example changeset that does this has a changeset comment of
> "#Project NOAH-ISAIAH added buildings".  It's that user's first changeset,
> and adds some buildings both in the northern Philippines and at "null
> island". A web search for that changeset comment finds
> http://blog.noah.dost.gov.ph/2016/03/18/project-noah-
> announces-start-of-isaiah/ and the contact info there is
> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org , so I'm sending this email to this list.
>
> Clearly something has gone wrong somewhere - either the lat/long values
> for the nodes of https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/452601924/history were
> confused by JOSM at upload, or confused by something external to JOSM and
> JOSM was just used as an interface to the OSM API without checking the
> uploaded data.  Obviously this isn't the fault of the user who uploaded it
> (it's their first changeset!) but it would be great if whatever training
> they receive could be changed so that things like this don't happen in the
> future.
>
> In order to do that, can anyone think what might be the best way to
> contact whoever would have run the OSM session in which this user uploaded
> that changeset? If we can work out want went wrong we can fix it for next
> time, whether it's a JOSM bug or something procedurally that needs
> changing.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Andy Townsend ("SomeoneElse" in OSM)
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #329 11/01/2016-11/07/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] iD v2.0.0 beta - help test!

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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From: Bryan Housel 
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 6:27 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] iD v2.0.0 beta - help test!
To: osm-talk 


We have been working really hard on iD the past few months and we’re
releasing *v2.0.0* in the next week or so.

iD v2.0.0 will look and feel the same as v1.x but has significant changes
to the code structure. It is written in a modular style, and uses new tools
to build the code.  This will benefit us by making it easier to keep iD's
dependencies up to date, share iD code with other OSM projects, and keep
current the with ever-changing state of the art in JavaScript development.

Huge thanks go out to to all of our contributors, the changelog is really
amazing:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#200
(We are still adding a few more features and fixing bugs over the next week)


How you can help:

*1. Test the latest version of iD:*
https://openstreetmap.us/iD/master/

*2. Report any bugs that you find:*
iD supports all modern operating systems and browsers.  When opening an
issue, please include your operating system, browser type and version, and
any information you can think of that might help us reproduce the issue.
Screenshots are super helpful too!
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues

*3. Translate! *
iD supports over 70 languages now, but most of them are not fully
translated.  We need your help!
Click below to open the iD translation project on Transifex.
https://www.transifex.com/ideditor/id-editor/

*4. Spread the word:*
The more help we get with testing the beta version, the better iD will be!
Twitter: https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/794666881563160576

Thanks!  
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #327 10/18/2016-10/24/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #326 10/11/2016-10/17/2016

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Re: [talk-ph] The movie Eye in the Sky credits OpenStreetMap

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi all,

I saw another mainstream film that credits OSM in the end credits and this
is the film adaptation of Dan Brown's novel Inferno. The credit went “©
OpenStreetMap contributors”. There was no mention of any license again.

I've decided to create a new wiki page[1] to list these films:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Films

~Eugene


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just saw the film Eye in the Sky, starring Helen Mirren and Alan
> Rickman (the movie is really good), and I was pleasantly surprised to
> see OpenStreetMap and its contributors get a credit in the end
> credits. The surprise is partly because I do not recall seeing any map
> in the film that looked like it came from OSM.
>
> IIRC, the credit went like “OpenStreetMap © OpenStreetMap
> contributors”. No mention of any license though.
>
> Now I'm wondering whether there are any other mainstream films that
> also use and credit OpenStreetMap as well. This is the first time I've
> seen such a credit and I don't recall any mention as well on this or the
> talk
> mailing list.
>
> ~Eugene
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Re: [OSM-talk] The movie Eye in the Sky credits OpenStreetMap

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

I saw another mainstream film that credits OSM in the end credits and this
is the film adaptation of Dan Brown's novel Inferno. The credit went “©
OpenStreetMap contributors”. There was no mention of any license again.

I've decided to create a new wiki page[1] to list these films, linked from
the "Press" wiki page[2].

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Films
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Portal:Press

~Eugene


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just saw the film Eye in the Sky, starring Helen Mirren and Alan
> Rickman (the movie is really good), and I was pleasantly surprised to
> see OpenStreetMap and its contributors get a credit in the end
> credits. The surprise is partly because I do not recall seeing any map
> in the film that looked like it came from OSM.
>
> IIRC, the credit went like “OpenStreetMap © OpenStreetMap
> contributors”. No mention of any license though.
>
> Now I'm wondering whether there are any other mainstream films that
> also use and credit OpenStreetMap as well. This is the first time I've
> seen such a credit and I don't recall any mention as well on this
> mailing list.
>
> ~Eugene
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Re: [talk-ph] Updated node density maps

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello all,

I have updated the node density maps for October 1, 2016:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps

Some observations:
- Project NOAH's building mapping tasks for Zambales, Taguig, Biliran, and
Misamis Oriental are visible
- ADB's project in Padre Burgos, Quezon and Santa Josefa, Agusan del Sur is
also visible
- There's a lot of activity in Ilocos Sur and Abra (does anybody have any
idea what this is?)
- I believe the activity in Occidental Mindoro is due to Rally's pet
project with the LGUs of Abra de Ilog and Mamburao
- The Cabanatuan–Dingalan corridor seems to be active
- The Lingayen–Dagupan area is also active
- There's also a lot of mapping in Surigao del Norte and Dinagat Islands


On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have updated the node density maps for July 1, 2016:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps
>
> Some observations:
> - The full impact of Project NOAH's task #1636 in Cavite is now visible
> - The initial activity of Project NOAH's task #1966 in Zambales can be
> seen
> - There are pockets of activity in northern Cebu, eastern Leyte, and Butuan
>
> ~Eugene
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM, maning sambale <
> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this Eugene.  Interesting that Metro Manila is still getting
>> updated.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I've completed the node density maps for 2015 and 2016-to-date:
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps
>> >
>> > Some things that I've noticed:
>> > - 2016 Q1 shows activity due to HOT tasks #1129 (Missing Maps - Leyte),
>> > #1636 (Project NOAH - Cavite), and #1684 (Project NOAH - Camiguin)
>> > - 2015 Q4 shows a lot of activity in La Union and Benguet. I don't know
>> > what's the reason.
>> > - 2015 Q2 shows the activity from the Luzon roads mapping project
>> >
>> > ~Eugene
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #325 10/04/2016-10/10/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #324 09/27/2016-10/03/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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[talk-ph] ADB–OSMPH Padre Burgos and Santa Josefa Mapathon

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello all!

The Asian Development Bank and OSM Philippines is inviting all of you to
join the Padre Burgos and Santa Josefa Mapathon! This will be held at the
ADB Headquarters on October 15, 2016 from 9:00am to 4:00pm.

Be a digital volunteer and help us complete the base map of Padre Burgos,
Quezon and Santa Josefa, Agusan del Sur!

This event is free! However, registration is required (there's no
walking-in at ADB!). Please go to this page to register:
https://adb-osmph-mapathon.eventbrite.com

Please bring your own laptop and mouse. There is no advanced skills needed
apart from basic knowledge of how to use a computer and the Internet.
Internet access, electricity, snacks, and lunch will be provided.

See you there!
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #322 09/13/2016-09/19/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #321 09/06/2016-09/12/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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[talk-ph] ADB OSM base mapping activity in Padre Burgos

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello all,

As you may know, OSMPH is currently collaborating with ADB for
their RETA 8884 project that uses OSM as a platform for disaster resilience
mapping: http://www.adb.org/projects/48333-001/main

I am currently in Padre Burgos, Quezon to help ADB train local municipal
and barangay officials in digitizing objects from satellite imagery and
trying to complete a basic base map of Barangays Rizal and Walay as well as
the poblacion area.

I would like to request those who have the time to look around these
people's edits and clean them up or provide feedback via changeset
comments. Thanks!

~Eugene
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #320 08/30/2016-09/05/2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Awards - The Voting Has Started

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Date: Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 4:49 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Awards - The Voting Has Started
To: Talk Openstreetmap 


Hi everyone,

Some of you have submitted nominees for the OSM Awards, and two days ago we
(as in some members of CWG, SotMWG and the Board) have discussed them and
compiled a short list: five nominees for each category.

Now the final stage of the OSM Awards begins: please open the website,
http://awards.osmz.ru , and choose one nominee for each of the six
categories, who you think has contributed the most and deserves an award
slightly more than others.

Although it is a hard task: imo all of the shortlisted nominees deserve
praise. Thank you for what you are doing, please do not stop. And maybe
even not only shortlisted.

But this is an award, and it should have its winners, so now it is up to
you who receives the award on the Sunday of the State of the Map. So again,
go and vote:

http://awards.osmz.ru

You can alter your choice up until the voting closes, by September 22nd.

IZ

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #319 08/23/2016-08/29/2016

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #318 08/16/2016-08/22/2016

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[talk-ph] October ADB mapathon survey

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi all. As you may know, OSMPH is currently collaborating with ADB for
their RETA 8884 project that uses OSM as a platform for disaster resilience
mapping: http://www.adb.org/projects/48333-001/main

ADB wants the community to organize a whole-day mapathon to update the base
map of Padre Burgos, Quezon and Santa Josefa, Agusan del Sur. ADB will
provide the venue (at ADB HQ in Ortigas Center), electricity, Internet
access, snacks, and lunch.

The first decision that needs to be made is the date of the event. When are
you guys available to attend this mapathon if you are interested: on
October 8 or October 15 (both are Saturdays)?

For those on Facebook, I have put up a poll:
https://web.facebook.com/groups/osmph/permalink/330148820655836/

~Eugene
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #317 08/09/2016-08/15/2016

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] The OpenStreetMap Awards - Call for Nominees

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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Date: Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 5:37 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] The OpenStreetMap Awards - Call for Nominees
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


Hi everyone,

I'm proud to announce the OpenStreetMap Awards, awarded for the first time
this September at the State of the Map 2016 conference in Brussels!

This is a community award: nominees and winners are chosen by the
community. We are now opening the Call for Nominees, to learn more about
the amazing contributors to OpenStreetMap. The Awards strive to be a
worldwide event for all OpenStreetMap members, including developers,
mappers, community leaders, blog writers and everyone else. We need your
help to find the best of OpenStreetMap globally.

http://awards.osmz.ru/

Add your nominees on the awards website. There are six categories: Core
Systems, Innovation, Writing, Mapping, Community and the Ulf Möller
Memorial Award. You can nominate up to ten people, groups or organizations
for each category. Eligible are projects or works that were announced after
August 1st, 2015, except for the Ulf Möller Award, for which everyone is
eligible regardless of the time when they were active in the project.

The call for nominees will close August 27th, and shortly after that we
will start the second round, choosing the award recipients. Please nominate!

IZ
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #315 07/26/2016-08/01/2016

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To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 315,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/7916/

Enjoy!

We publish this issue with only one proofreading.
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #314 07/19/2016-07/25/2016

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 314,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/7896/

Enjoy!

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Re: [talk-ph] State of the Map US 2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi all,

Finally, here's the YouTube playlist of the presentations and talks that
were given during State of the Map US last weekend:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqjPa29lMiE3eR-gK80irr3xdUiRbIMeg

~Eugene


On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> State of the Map US 2016 recently concluded in Seattle, WA. While we
> are waiting for the uploaded presentations, videos, and in-depth
> writeups, you can check out bits and pieces of what happened from the
> conference Twitter account: https://twitter.com/sotmus
>
> -
>
> I'd also like to again take this opportunity to invite everyone to
> join us at State of the Map Asia 2016 here in Metro Manila,
> Philippines from October 1 to 2.
>
> Website: http://stateofthemap.asia/
> Free registration: https://sotmasia2016.splashthat.com/
> Submit talks: http://goo.gl/forms/pbWDWrX4MJukZeio1
>
> ~Eugene
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[talk-ph] State of the Map US 2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi all,

State of the Map US 2016 recently concluded in Seattle, WA. While we
are waiting for the uploaded presentations, videos, and in-depth
writeups, you can check out bits and pieces of what happened from the
conference Twitter account: https://twitter.com/sotmus

-

I'd also like to again take this opportunity to invite everyone to
join us at State of the Map Asia 2016 here in Metro Manila,
Philippines from October 1 to 2.

Website: http://stateofthemap.asia/
Free registration: https://sotmasia2016.splashthat.com/
Submit talks: http://goo.gl/forms/pbWDWrX4MJukZeio1

~Eugene

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[talk-ph] The movie Eye in the Sky credits OpenStreetMap

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi all,

I just saw the film Eye in the Sky, starring Helen Mirren and Alan
Rickman (the movie is really good), and I was pleasantly surprised to
see OpenStreetMap and its contributors get a credit in the end
credits. The surprise is partly because I do not recall seeing any map
in the film that looked like it came from OSM.

IIRC, the credit went like “OpenStreetMap © OpenStreetMap
contributors”. No mention of any license though.

Now I'm wondering whether there are any other mainstream films that
also use and credit OpenStreetMap as well. This is the first time I've
seen such a credit and I don't recall any mention as well on this or the talk
mailing list.

~Eugene

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[OSM-talk] The movie Eye in the Sky credits OpenStreetMap

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi all,

I just saw the film Eye in the Sky, starring Helen Mirren and Alan
Rickman (the movie is really good), and I was pleasantly surprised to
see OpenStreetMap and its contributors get a credit in the end
credits. The surprise is partly because I do not recall seeing any map
in the film that looked like it came from OSM.

IIRC, the credit went like “OpenStreetMap © OpenStreetMap
contributors”. No mention of any license though.

Now I'm wondering whether there are any other mainstream films that
also use and credit OpenStreetMap as well. This is the first time I've
seen such a credit and I don't recall any mention as well on this
mailing list.

~Eugene

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Re: [talk-ph] Updated node density maps

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello all,

I have updated the node density maps for July 1, 2016:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps

Some observations:
- The full impact of Project NOAH's task #1636 in Cavite is now visible
- The initial activity of Project NOAH's task #1966 in Zambales can be seen
- There are pockets of activity in northern Cebu, eastern Leyte, and Butuan

~Eugene


On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM, maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for this Eugene.  Interesting that Metro Manila is still getting
> updated.
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've completed the node density maps for 2015 and 2016-to-date:
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps
> >
> > Some things that I've noticed:
> > - 2016 Q1 shows activity due to HOT tasks #1129 (Missing Maps - Leyte),
> > #1636 (Project NOAH - Cavite), and #1684 (Project NOAH - Camiguin)
> > - 2015 Q4 shows a lot of activity in La Union and Benguet. I don't know
> > what's the reason.
> > - 2015 Q2 shows the activity from the Luzon roads mapping project
> >
> > ~Eugene
> >
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #312 05.07.2016-11.07.2016

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 312,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/7855/

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Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Éric Gillet 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> OSM contributions must follow the Contributor Terms
> ; these
> therms are being shown to new users and they must explicitely accept them
> before they can start contributing.
>
> However, another distinct set of rules is also being enforced by the DWG :
> the Automated edits code of conduct
> 
>  (AECoC).
>
> In contrary to the Contributor Terms, these rules :
>
>- Are not shown to new contributors
>- Are not accepted by new or existing contributors
>- Doesn't seem to have been voted on before their "establishment"
>- Seems to have been written by an eminent, but small set of
>contributors (history
>
> 
>)
>
> Like the Contributor terms, the AECoC is enforced by the DWG and can cause
> reverts by its members, on terms that have not been accepted by
> contributors.
>
> As such, I think that the AECoc in its current form should not serve as a
> basis for reversal of changesets by the DWG.
>
> If it were to, I think it should be put to an higher set of standards than
> the changeset it aims to direct. For example it could be audited with an
> RFC, then a vote, and finally being explicitely accepted by contributors.
>
> What are your thoughts ?
>

The comparison between the Contributor Terms and AECoC is unfair.

The Contributor Terms is a legal requirement. Users need to *explicitly*
agree to the Contributor Terms in order to avoid legal issues and avoid
breaking the law (such as adding data from copyrighted sources without the
necessary license and permission).

On the other hand, the AECoC is a community guideline. If you break it,
there are no legal issues. So there is no legal requirement that guidelines
have to be accepted by every user.

But should the AECoC be *explicitly* accepted/voted on by users outside of
legal requirements? It may be a nice to have that, but the AECoC has been
existing since 2008, and was borne out of frustrations by a lot of users
then about people making quick, wholesale changes (i.e., automated) without
discussing them first. The fact that this guideline has been existing that
long and with no major opposition to them existing in the first place (well
some may quibble on a particular provision or two) effectively makes them a
guideline by consensus. I don't agree that new users have to continually
"ratify" this guideline.

~Eugene
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] WeeklyOSM 311

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue #311, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
OpenStreetMap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/7831

Cheers,

Jinal Foflia 

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[OSM-talk] State of the Map Asia 2016 Call for Presentations

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Dear everyone,

The State of the Map Asia 2016 team is hard at work to bring to you the
best presentations about OpenStreetMap and resilience in Asia and the rest
of the world. We couldn’t do that without your help! So we are inviting you
to submit proposals for 20-minute talks, 5-minute lightning talks, and
90-minute workshops that will provide value to conference attendees.

If you are interested in presenting, please refer to the following
conference web page for instructions: http://stateofthemap.asia/program

Note that the deadline for submission is on July 31.

We are all excited to see what you have in store for us!


Eugene Villar
On behalf of the SotM Asia 2016 Team


On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:56 PM, maning sambale 
wrote:

> Dear everyone,
>
> We are happy to announce that the 2nd State of the Map Asia will
> happen in Manila, Philippines on October 1-2, 2016. Two days in the
> Philippines with talks, discussions, and workshops all around the free
> and open map of the world.
>
> This is a free event (no registration fee), if you plan to join, head
> over to the website to register.
>
> http://stateofthemap.asia/
>
> In the coming weeks, we will announce the call for proposals,
> scholarship applications and other details. We are also looking for
> sponsors to cover for food and other expenses needed to make this
> awesome. If you are interested, please contact:
> osmpilipinas+sotmasia2...@gmail.com
>
> We hope the OSM community in Asia and all over the world can join.
>
>
> Maning Sambale
> In behalf of the SOTM-Asia 2016 Organizing Team
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[talk-ph] State of the Map Asia 2016 Call for Presentations

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Dear everyone,

The State of the Map Asia 2016 team is hard at work to bring to you the
best presentations about OpenStreetMap and resilience in Asia and the rest
of the world. We couldn’t do that without your help! So we are inviting you
to submit proposals for 20-minute talks, 5-minute lightning talks, and
90-minute workshops that will provide value to conference attendees.

If you are interested in presenting, please refer to the following
conference web page for instructions: http://stateofthemap.asia/program

Note that the deadline for submission is on July 31.

We are all excited to see what you have in store for us!


Eugene Villar
On behalf of the SotM Asia 2016 Team


On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:56 PM, maning sambale 
wrote:

> Dear everyone,
>
> We are happy to announce that the 2nd State of the Map Asia will
> happen in Manila, Philippines on October 1-2, 2016. Two days in the
> Philippines with talks, discussions, and workshops all around the free
> and open map of the world.
>
> This is a free event (no registration fee), if you plan to join, head
> over to the website to register.
>
> http://stateofthemap.asia/
>
> In the coming weeks, we will announce the call for proposals,
> scholarship applications and other details. We are also looking for
> sponsors to cover for food and other expenses needed to make this
> awesome. If you are interested, please contact:
> osmpilipinas+sotmasia2...@gmail.com
>
> We hope the OSM community in Asia and all over the world can join.
>
>
> Maning Sambale
> In behalf of the SOTM-Asia 2016 Organizing Team
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Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 24/06/2016 14:40, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>
>
> This defect has already been reported to their GitHub repository:
> https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/2902
>
>
> You've seen https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/3623 though?
>
> ("This bugtracker is not actively monitored, b...@maps.me could be used
> for reporting")
>
That's a pity. Bug reporting via e-mail submission instead of via a public
bug-tracking system is definitely a step back.
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Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> while at it, whitespace at the beginning and end of the tag values should
> be removed before upload...
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39910220
>

This defect has already been reported to their GitHub repository:
https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/2902
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] WeeklyOSM 308

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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From: Jinal Foflia 
Date: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 2:59 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] WeeklyOSM 308
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue #308, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
OpenStreetMap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/7686

*Among others:*


   - Read more about a cool project to visualize OSM data in 3D and split
   vertically by year.
   - State of the Map US 2016, will be held at Seattle University on the
   23rd to the 25th of July and will focus on the importance of free map data
   in humanitarian efforts of organizations, ranging from Microsoft and the
   American Red Cross to the Tacoma Fire Department. More information here.
   - Peter Liu from Mapbox uses the data from USGS (US Geological Survey)
   and created a real-time map of all earthquakes, which are measured by the
   USGS. Read more about it here.
   - Interested in "Creating a Realistic City With OpenStreetMap in
   Blender"? Read in here for more on this.


Cheers,

Jinal Foflia 

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[talk-ph] Updated node density maps

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello all,

I've completed the node density maps for 2015 and 2016-to-date:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Node_density_maps

Some things that I've noticed:
- 2016 Q1 shows activity due to HOT tasks #1129 (Missing Maps - Leyte),
#1636 (Project NOAH - Cavite), and #1684 (Project NOAH - Camiguin)
- 2015 Q4 shows a lot of activity in La Union and Benguet. I don't know
what's the reason.
- 2015 Q2 shows the activity from the Luzon roads mapping project

~Eugene
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Re: [talk-ph] Quezon City mapping: districts

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Erwin,

This QC Risk Atlas is interesting. The barangay boundaries depicted here
are different in several places from a map published by QC previously that
was the source of the QC barangay boundaries that are now in OSM.

~Eugene

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Erwin Olario <gov...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> @Eugene
> That was too long ago.
>
> Anyway, check out Quezon City's Risk Atlas for interesting geospatial data:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwSM5MRaKxejOG05N0lUUHdXdEk/view
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 7:21 AM Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Manila's administrative and legislative districts boundaries were mapped
>> because the data or information about them is available.
>>
>> Manila's administrative districts are defined by law in R.A. 409, which
>> is the Revised Charter of the City of Manila. For example, here's the
>> description of the boundary of the district of Quiapo:
>>
>> Beginning at the intersection of the center lines of Calle Azcarraga and
>>> Estero de Quiapo; thence along the center lines of Calle Azcarraga, Legarda
>>> and E. Mendiola, Estero de San Miguel, the Pasig River, Puente Colgante,
>>> Calles Norzagaray and Regidor, and Estero de Quiapo, to the point of
>>> beginning.
>>>
>>
>> It's then just a simple matter of determining which modern streets
>> correspond to which old street name (Calle Azcarraga is C.M. Recto Avenue,
>> while Puente Colgante is now Quezon Bridge, etc.)
>>
>> Manila's legislative districts are defined in the Ordinance section of
>> the 1987 Philippine Constitution. For example, here's the description of
>> the boundary of the 5th district:
>>
>> Barangays Nos. 649-828 N - Mouth of Pasig River inland to point Paz M.
>>> Guanzon Street extending to Estero de Pandacan; NE - Estero de Pandacan up
>>> to Pedro Gil Street to Tejeron Street up to boundary of Manila and Makati;
>>> SE - City boundary between Manila and Makati up to Estero de Tripa de
>>> Gallina; S - City boundary between Pasay and Manila down to Roxas Boulevard
>>> up to edge of reclaimed areas westward to Manila Bay; W - Manila Bay up to
>>> mouth of Pasig River.
>>>
>>
>> ~Eugene
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a side note, Manila's districts are not obviously marked (possibly
>>>> the same as the case of Quezzn City), but official boundaries assigned by
>>>> the City of Manila has been mapped (the districts of Manila are officially
>>>> designated). Possibly those district boundaries are mapped based on
>>>> physical features and place addresses.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jherome Miguel <
>>>> jheromemig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I created the Cubao boundary by extrapolating some data from
>>>>> boundaries of barangays that may possibly form part of Cubao.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although "general areas", the approximate boundaries can be mapped.
>>>>> Also, some barangays are inside a certain district, and a ground survey on
>>>>> addresses of places on those barangays can be used to verify them.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few can be defined by surrounding streets (e.g. Santa Mesa Heights
>>>>> district boundaries are formed by its surrounding roads,like Quezon 
>>>>> Avenue,
>>>>> Araneta Avenue, Del Monte Avenue, and Mayon Avenue). and water bodies like
>>>>> rivers, or both (Diliman looks like to be one example. The Diliman Creek
>>>>> forms one part of the approximate boundary, while roads, like Katipunan
>>>>> Avenue, Commonwealth Avenue, North Avenue, West Avenue, a part of Quezon
>>>>> Avenue, Don A. Roces Avenue, and a portion of Tomas Morato Avenue forms 
>>>>> the
>>>>> rest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this advice helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if QC's districts have ever been defined. As far as I
>>>>>> can tell, they are general areas and there is no hard line delineating
>>>>>> these districts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jherome Miguel <
>>>>>> jheromemig...@gmail.com> 

[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] WeeklyOSM 307

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

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From: Jinal Foflia 
Date: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 3:39 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] WeeklyOSM 307
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue #307, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
OpenStreetMap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/7644

*Among others:*


   - Read in here about the start of WeeklyOSM, how we work together and
   the plans for the future!
   - Want to click a 360° picture using Mapillary? Read in here to know
   more about clicking and processing them in JOSM
   - Read more about the three new functions that will make editing in iD
   much more efficient.
   - The OSM Foundation is seeking a (paid) administrative assistant and
   has extended the application deadline by a week to the 10th of June.
   - Until June 10th, one can vote on talks for the State of the Map and
   thus help decide about the program for this conference.
   - Want to play a quiz? The Guardian took maps from Gretchen Peterson’s
   book "City Maps: A Coloring Book for Adults" and produced a pretty hard
   Quiz with the title: "Can you identify the city from the blank street map?"


Cheers,

Jinal Foflia 

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] WeeklyOSM 306

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jinal Foflia 
Date: Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:49 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] WeeklyOSM 306
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue #306, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
OpenStreetMap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/7593

*Among others:*


   - Love Mapillary? Read in more for detailed article about using
   Mapillary for mapping in OpenStreetMap with JOSM.
   - Mapbox announces that their map related tools are now free for
   humanitarian response.
   - The State of the Map Working Group (WG SotM) published a paper to the
   topic corporate membership. Source: OSMF-talk
   - Rome based architect and designer Mateo Prati showcases his 3D views
   of Manhattan made with Blender and OpenStreetMap data.
   - Try out the knife-tool for JOSM, which makes splitting ways at an
   arbitrary point a breeze.


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Re: [talk-ph] Manila barangays and barangay zones

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Some of us have tried it but did not get lucky. Would you be willing to try?

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If Pasay and Caloocan barangay nodes/boundaries and zones boundaries are
> complete through data given by the city governments, why not consult the
> city government of Manila for barangay and barangay zone boundaries?
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Caloocan and Pasay barangay boundaries were obtained from maps provided
>> by the city government.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A ground survey can be one source, but I'm not certain whether the City
>>> of Manila has those data.
>>>
>>> Side note: Where did you hot the data of the barangays of Caloocan and
>>> Pasay? I s it from surveying those cities or given by the city government?
>>> I am curious how they made their way to OSM.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jherome,
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any good source for the barangays and zones of Manila?
>>>> Please note that GADM (and PhilGIS, which is derived from GADM), which is
>>>> the go-to source for barangays boundaries in the Philippines is not good
>>>> enough for OSM for 2 reasons:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The license of GADM does not allow commercial use. This is not
>>>> allowed to be added to OSM.
>>>> 2. The data for barangays is bad. You can see a comparison here:
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:GADM_vs_OSM_-_Northern_Caloocan.png
>>>>
>>>> We in OSM have not yet added all Manila barangay and zone boundaries
>>>> not because we are lazy, but because accurate barangay data that is OK for
>>>> use for OSM is not available.
>>>>
>>>> ~Eugene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Jherome Miguel <
>>>> jheromemig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Manila's map on barangay nodes/boundaries and barangay zone boundaries
>>>>> are still not added. While Manila's legislative and administrative
>>>>> districts are mapped, barangay and barangay zones are still incomplete
>>>>> or not mapped at all. I added barangays on Quiapo, but it is still
>>>>> few. Someone may help on adding those barangay nodes/boundaries and
>>>>> barangay zone boundaries.
>>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Manila barangays and barangay zones

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Caloocan and Pasay barangay boundaries were obtained from maps provided by
the city government.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> A ground survey can be one source, but I'm not certain whether the City of
> Manila has those data.
>
> Side note: Where did you hot the data of the barangays of Caloocan and
> Pasay? I s it from surveying those cities or given by the city government?
> I am curious how they made their way to OSM.
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jherome,
>>
>> Do you have any good source for the barangays and zones of Manila? Please
>> note that GADM (and PhilGIS, which is derived from GADM), which is the
>> go-to source for barangays boundaries in the Philippines is not good enough
>> for OSM for 2 reasons:
>>
>> 1. The license of GADM does not allow commercial use. This is not allowed
>> to be added to OSM.
>> 2. The data for barangays is bad. You can see a comparison here:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:GADM_vs_OSM_-_Northern_Caloocan.png
>>
>> We in OSM have not yet added all Manila barangay and zone boundaries not
>> because we are lazy, but because accurate barangay data that is OK for use
>> for OSM is not available.
>>
>> ~Eugene
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Manila's map on barangay nodes/boundaries and barangay zone boundaries
>>> are still not added. While Manila's legislative and administrative
>>> districts are mapped, barangay and barangay zones are still incomplete
>>> or not mapped at all. I added barangays on Quiapo, but it is still
>>> few. Someone may help on adding those barangay nodes/boundaries and
>>> barangay zone boundaries.
>>>
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>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Quezon City mapping: districts

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Manila's administrative and legislative districts boundaries were mapped
because the data or information about them is available.

Manila's administrative districts are defined by law in R.A. 409, which is
the Revised Charter of the City of Manila. For example, here's the
description of the boundary of the district of Quiapo:

Beginning at the intersection of the center lines of Calle Azcarraga and
> Estero de Quiapo; thence along the center lines of Calle Azcarraga, Legarda
> and E. Mendiola, Estero de San Miguel, the Pasig River, Puente Colgante,
> Calles Norzagaray and Regidor, and Estero de Quiapo, to the point of
> beginning.
>

It's then just a simple matter of determining which modern streets
correspond to which old street name (Calle Azcarraga is C.M. Recto Avenue,
while Puente Colgante is now Quezon Bridge, etc.)

Manila's legislative districts are defined in the Ordinance section of the
1987 Philippine Constitution. For example, here's the description of the
boundary of the 5th district:

Barangays Nos. 649-828 N - Mouth of Pasig River inland to point Paz M.
> Guanzon Street extending to Estero de Pandacan; NE - Estero de Pandacan up
> to Pedro Gil Street to Tejeron Street up to boundary of Manila and Makati;
> SE - City boundary between Manila and Makati up to Estero de Tripa de
> Gallina; S - City boundary between Pasay and Manila down to Roxas Boulevard
> up to edge of reclaimed areas westward to Manila Bay; W - Manila Bay up to
> mouth of Pasig River.
>

~Eugene



> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As a side note, Manila's districts are not obviously marked (possibly the
>> same as the case of Quezzn City), but official boundaries assigned by the
>> City of Manila has been mapped (the districts of Manila are officially
>> designated). Possibly those district boundaries are mapped based on
>> physical features and place addresses.
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I created the Cubao boundary by extrapolating some data from boundaries
>>> of barangays that may possibly form part of Cubao.
>>>
>>> Although "general areas", the approximate boundaries can be mapped.
>>> Also, some barangays are inside a certain district, and a ground survey on
>>> addresses of places on those barangays can be used to verify them.
>>>
>>> A few can be defined by surrounding streets (e.g. Santa Mesa Heights
>>> district boundaries are formed by its surrounding roads,like Quezon Avenue,
>>> Araneta Avenue, Del Monte Avenue, and Mayon Avenue). and water bodies like
>>> rivers, or both (Diliman looks like to be one example. The Diliman Creek
>>> forms one part of the approximate boundary, while roads, like Katipunan
>>> Avenue, Commonwealth Avenue, North Avenue, West Avenue, a part of Quezon
>>> Avenue, Don A. Roces Avenue, and a portion of Tomas Morato Avenue forms the
>>> rest.
>>>
>>> Hope this advice helps.
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know if QC's districts have ever been defined. As far as I can
>>>> tell, they are general areas and there is no hard line delineating these
>>>> districts.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jherome Miguel <
>>>> jheromemig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Quezon City's political map on OpenStreetMap is mostly complete, with
>>>>> every barangay mapped, but the district boundaries are still missing,
>>>>> although district nodes are already added. I started to add nodes for 
>>>>> those
>>>>> districts, like Novaliches, New Manila, Santa Mesa Heights, Diliman, and
>>>>> Balintawak, but district boundaries are still undefined. Can someone map
>>>>> Quezon City's district boundaries, while I'll add the others, like the
>>>>> Project areas La Loma, and Bago Bantay (possibly the same as the "Munoz"
>>>>> area)?
>>>>>
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>>>
>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Quezon City mapping: districts

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

You should have taken a picture of that map! :)

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Erwin Olario <gov...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> It could be based on barangay membership to a district, I remeber
> encountering some map from city hall about that a few years back.
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:48 PM Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know if QC's districts have ever been defined. As far as I can
>> tell, they are general areas and there is no hard line delineating these
>> districts.
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Quezon City's political map on OpenStreetMap is mostly complete, with
>>> every barangay mapped, but the district boundaries are still missing,
>>> although district nodes are already added. I started to add nodes for those
>>> districts, like Novaliches, New Manila, Santa Mesa Heights, Diliman, and
>>> Balintawak, but district boundaries are still undefined. Can someone map
>>> Quezon City's district boundaries, while I'll add the others, like the
>>> Project areas La Loma, and Bago Bantay (possibly the same as the "Munoz"
>>> area)?
>>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Quezon City mapping: districts

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> As a side note, Manila's districts are not obviously marked (possibly the
> same as the case of Quezzn City), but official boundaries assigned by the
> City of Manila has been mapped (the districts of Manila are officially
> designated). Possibly those district boundaries are mapped based on
> physical features and place addresses.
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I created the Cubao boundary by extrapolating some data from boundaries
>> of barangays that may possibly form part of Cubao.
>>
>> Although "general areas", the approximate boundaries can be mapped. Also,
>> some barangays are inside a certain district, and a ground survey on
>> addresses of places on those barangays can be used to verify them.
>>
>> A few can be defined by surrounding streets (e.g. Santa Mesa Heights
>> district boundaries are formed by its surrounding roads,like Quezon Avenue,
>> Araneta Avenue, Del Monte Avenue, and Mayon Avenue). and water bodies like
>> rivers, or both (Diliman looks like to be one example. The Diliman Creek
>> forms one part of the approximate boundary, while roads, like Katipunan
>> Avenue, Commonwealth Avenue, North Avenue, West Avenue, a part of Quezon
>> Avenue, Don A. Roces Avenue, and a portion of Tomas Morato Avenue forms the
>> rest.
>>
>> Hope this advice helps.
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know if QC's districts have ever been defined. As far as I can
>>> tell, they are general areas and there is no hard line delineating these
>>> districts.
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quezon City's political map on OpenStreetMap is mostly complete, with
>>>> every barangay mapped, but the district boundaries are still missing,
>>>> although district nodes are already added. I started to add nodes for those
>>>> districts, like Novaliches, New Manila, Santa Mesa Heights, Diliman, and
>>>> Balintawak, but district boundaries are still undefined. Can someone map
>>>> Quezon City's district boundaries, while I'll add the others, like the
>>>> Project areas La Loma, and Bago Bantay (possibly the same as the "Munoz"
>>>> area)?
>>>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Quezon City mapping: districts

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I created the Cubao boundary by extrapolating some data from boundaries of
> barangays that may possibly form part of Cubao.
>
> Although "general areas", the approximate boundaries can be mapped. Also,
> some barangays are inside a certain district, and a ground survey on
> addresses of places on those barangays can be used to verify them.
>
> A few can be defined by surrounding streets (e.g. Santa Mesa Heights
> district boundaries are formed by its surrounding roads,like Quezon Avenue,
> Araneta Avenue, Del Monte Avenue, and Mayon Avenue). and water bodies like
> rivers, or both (Diliman looks like to be one example. The Diliman Creek
> forms one part of the approximate boundary, while roads, like Katipunan
> Avenue, Commonwealth Avenue, North Avenue, West Avenue, a part of Quezon
> Avenue, Don A. Roces Avenue, and a portion of Tomas Morato Avenue forms the
> rest.
>
> Hope this advice helps.
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know if QC's districts have ever been defined. As far as I can
>> tell, they are general areas and there is no hard line delineating these
>> districts.
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jherome Miguel <jheromemig...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Quezon City's political map on OpenStreetMap is mostly complete, with
>>> every barangay mapped, but the district boundaries are still missing,
>>> although district nodes are already added. I started to add nodes for those
>>> districts, like Novaliches, New Manila, Santa Mesa Heights, Diliman, and
>>> Balintawak, but district boundaries are still undefined. Can someone map
>>> Quezon City's district boundaries, while I'll add the others, like the
>>> Project areas La Loma, and Bago Bantay (possibly the same as the "Munoz"
>>> area)?
>>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Manila barangays and barangay zones

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Jherome,

Do you have any good source for the barangays and zones of Manila? Please
note that GADM (and PhilGIS, which is derived from GADM), which is the
go-to source for barangays boundaries in the Philippines is not good enough
for OSM for 2 reasons:

1. The license of GADM does not allow commercial use. This is not allowed
to be added to OSM.
2. The data for barangays is bad. You can see a comparison here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:GADM_vs_OSM_-_Northern_Caloocan.png

We in OSM have not yet added all Manila barangay and zone boundaries not
because we are lazy, but because accurate barangay data that is OK for use
for OSM is not available.

~Eugene


On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Jherome Miguel 
wrote:

> Manila's map on barangay nodes/boundaries and barangay zone boundaries
> are still not added. While Manila's legislative and administrative
> districts are mapped, barangay and barangay zones are still incomplete
> or not mapped at all. I added barangays on Quiapo, but it is still
> few. Someone may help on adding those barangay nodes/boundaries and
> barangay zone boundaries.
>
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] WeeklyOSM 305

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jinal Foflia 
Date: Sun, May 29, 2016 at 1:02 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] WeeklyOSM 305
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue #305, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
OpenStreetMap world:

*http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/7559
*

*Among others:*


   - How can new mappers help HOT with the validation process? Read more
   here.
   - Have you had your OpenStreetMap account verified in HDYC? If not, read
   in here to get it verified.
   - The HOT team announced that the 2016 HOT Summit takes place in
   Brussels, just one day before State of the Map. Registration for the summit
   is open.
   - Sri Lanka has been hit hard in the past few days by flooding.
  - see all tasks, please help!
  - pay special attention to task #1915.
   - Mapbox has redesigned their outdoor style of maps


Cheers,

Jinal Foflia 

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