[OSM-talk] OSM registrations by County

[Steve Chilton]

Has anyone a way of finding how many people in county of Kent (UK) are 
registered with OSM, please?

A friend is writing piece for a local magazine to encourage take up in the 
county and wanted to be able to quote the number of existing mappers (yeh I 
know they don't all map who register).


Cheers

Steve
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[OSM-talk] Landcover for Brazil

[Steve Chilton]

Does anyone know of landcover data that is available for Brazil (like Corine 
for Europe), Bela Horizonte in particular?

Cheers
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[Talk-GB] London Geodata event

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Would anyone like to promote OpenStreetMap at a major geodata event in London 
next week.
The Society of Cartographers (SoC) have a stand at the London Geodata event on 
3 Dec and for the last 3 years have had an OSMer working in tandem.
It is a great networking event, where many of the main players in the mapping 
and data sector are present.
http://www.geoaware.info/#!geodata-london-/c1vct
Currently I am scheduled to cover the day for SoC with a colleague but we would 
love to have an OSMer with us to concentrate on opendata mapping.
Please have a look at the link and if you feel you could offer a half day shift 
then contact myself.
Entry is free and will be registered by us as 3rd SoC person as we have paid 
the stand fee.

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Steve


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Re: [Talk-GB] Last quarterly project for 2015

[Steve Chilton]

Can you point me to a source for identifying NRs near me (L B of Enfield), and 
I will try to get out to them and do a bit of boundary and path network mapping 
where possible?

Cheers
Steve

From: SK53 [mailto:sk53@gmail.com]
Sent: 05 October 2015 09:29
To: Brian Prangle
Cc: Talk GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Last quarterly project for 2015

I'm well in favour of mapping nature reserves, but they usually are quite 
difficult to find actual boundaries.
Nick Whitlegg and I walked through a couple of Woodland Trust areas on Saturday 
and working out the extent of the area owned by the WT is difficult. Similarly, 
over another non-OSM matter, I've been exchanging emails with NT Eastern Office 
about Wicken Fen, but they have added so much new land over the past few years 
that they dont have a ready to use map of the reserve. Another one is the new 
RSPB reserve at Medmerry near Selsey, which is the site of a massive managed 
retreat and new sea wall breach. This was brought to my attention by Liz Scott 
(@birdmaps). Lastly, I haven't even resolved the bounds of Attenborough NR: the 
staff now manage the area in Derbyshire labelled Erewash 
Field on OSM. I don't know if it 
has been formally incoriporated into the reserve, so the current mapping is a 
sensible compromise (and yes Nottinghamshire Wildlife Trust operate a reserve 
in Derbyshire).
There are Natural England datasets for National NRs, Local NRs and SSSIs. I 
think these are under OGL these days, but like PRoW or Land Registry inspire 
data, they may incorporate OS MasterMap data, and I have always treated them as 
not fully open. Some local authorities have open data showing boundaries of 
LNRs. Note that NR & SSSI boundaries are often not coincident. NRs depend on 
either landowner agreement, or willingness to sell land; SSSIs are based on 
conservation importance. And of course, some NRs have geological SSSIs in their 
midst which are much smaller than the NR.
The second thing which is really important for NRs is to get path networks and 
access mapped out. Experience shows that even if one wants to start mapping the 
things the NR is about, having the paths in is a necessary but not sufficient 
condition for a decent map. Many NRs are very deficient from this point of view 
(including the big ancient woodlands S of Coventry, such as Wappenbury & Ryton, 
the last of which I visited at end of August. Similarly both Wyre Forest & 
Werneth Low which I visited in September lack many paths.
There's a lot more to say about NRs, I have already started a draft for the 
blog to do so inspired by looking at Medmerry.
My feeling is that the most value can be added to OSM by improving details of 
NRs local to individual mappers, and initially, at least path networks (there 
are probably 10+ km of unmapped paths in Ryton Wood alone).
One other plea, please don't map areas of grass as meadows unless you know them 
to be meadows: Dudley wrote something about this in the past.
Regards,
Jerry

On 5 October 2015 at 08:39, Brian Prangle 
> wrote:
Hi everyone
For the remainder of 2015 lets concentrate on Nature Reserves
Regards
Brian

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Re: [Talk-GB] Last quarterly project for 2015

[Steve Chilton]

Ok, a quick search suggests that there is only one in Enfield (Covert Way) – 
which I have details for now from the NE site.
I am surprised, considering how ‘green’ the west side of the Borough seems.
Maybe I need to check the Lea Valley Park for status of the constituents parts 
of that.

Cheers
Steve

From: Steve Chilton [mailto:s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk]
Sent: 05 October 2015 09:57
To: SK53; Brian Prangle
Cc: Talk GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Last quarterly project for 2015

Can you point me to a source for identifying NRs near me (L B of Enfield), and 
I will try to get out to them and do a bit of boundary and path network mapping 
where possible?

Cheers
Steve

From: SK53 [mailto:sk53@gmail.com]
Sent: 05 October 2015 09:29
To: Brian Prangle
Cc: Talk GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Last quarterly project for 2015

I'm well in favour of mapping nature reserves, but they usually are quite 
difficult to find actual boundaries.
Nick Whitlegg and I walked through a couple of Woodland Trust areas on Saturday 
and working out the extent of the area owned by the WT is difficult. Similarly, 
over another non-OSM matter, I've been exchanging emails with NT Eastern Office 
about Wicken Fen, but they have added so much new land over the past few years 
that they dont have a ready to use map of the reserve. Another one is the new 
RSPB reserve at Medmerry near Selsey, which is the site of a massive managed 
retreat and new sea wall breach. This was brought to my attention by Liz Scott 
(@birdmaps). Lastly, I haven't even resolved the bounds of Attenborough NR: the 
staff now manage the area in Derbyshire labelled Erewash 
Field<http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/229705879> on OSM. I don't know if it 
has been formally incoriporated into the reserve, so the current mapping is a 
sensible compromise (and yes Nottinghamshire Wildlife Trust operate a reserve 
in Derbyshire).
There are Natural England datasets for National NRs, Local NRs and SSSIs. I 
think these are under OGL these days, but like PRoW or Land Registry inspire 
data, they may incorporate OS MasterMap data, and I have always treated them as 
not fully open. Some local authorities have open data showing boundaries of 
LNRs. Note that NR & SSSI boundaries are often not coincident. NRs depend on 
either landowner agreement, or willingness to sell land; SSSIs are based on 
conservation importance. And of course, some NRs have geological SSSIs in their 
midst which are much smaller than the NR.
The second thing which is really important for NRs is to get path networks and 
access mapped out. Experience shows that even if one wants to start mapping the 
things the NR is about, having the paths in is a necessary but not sufficient 
condition for a decent map. Many NRs are very deficient from this point of view 
(including the big ancient woodlands S of Coventry, such as Wappenbury & Ryton, 
the last of which I visited at end of August. Similarly both Wyre Forest & 
Werneth Low which I visited in September lack many paths.
There's a lot more to say about NRs, I have already started a draft for the 
blog to do so inspired by looking at Medmerry.
My feeling is that the most value can be added to OSM by improving details of 
NRs local to individual mappers, and initially, at least path networks (there 
are probably 10+ km of unmapped paths in Ryton Wood alone).
One other plea, please don't map areas of grass as meadows unless you know them 
to be meadows: Dudley wrote something about this in the past.
Regards,
Jerry

On 5 October 2015 at 08:39, Brian Prangle 
<bpran...@gmail.com<mailto:bpran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone
For the remainder of 2015 lets concentrate on Nature Reserves
Regards
Brian

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Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

[Steve Chilton]

It would be great to have another significant out-and-about UK mapping party, 
I'd be up for it.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Philip Barnes [mailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk] 
Sent: 22 August 2015 13:30
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 13:23 +0100, SK53 wrote:
> I'm just back from my annual trip to the Rutland Bird Fair.
> 
> Each time I'm struck by the fact that Rutland still needs a lot of 
> ground survey work for OSM. Oakham for instance has a prodigious 
> number of new houses, the PRoW network is pretty incomplete, and there 
> are lots of other details missing in villages.
> 
> Next year will be 10 years since the big Rutland Mapping Party. Might 
> it be fun to reprise it and make Rutland best mapped countryside in 
> UK?
> 
> Obviously another alternative would be reprise the Isle of Wight 
> Workshop.
> 
> 
I'm up for either, travel costs to Rutland are obviously lower for most people. 
Isle of Wight ferries are quite costly.

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[OSM-talk] Drones piece in Guardian

[Steve Chilton]

Does anyone have email contact for Ivan Gayton please?
Featured in article in Guardian Saturday on drones:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/07/battle-of-drones-amateurs-taking-on-tech-giants
I would like to speak to him about possibly giving a talk about his 
OpenStreetMap work.

Cheers
Steve

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[OSM-talk] Data filter

[Steve Chilton]

Can anyone help me with filtering OSM data please?
For a project I am working on I need data on my contributions to the project.
How can I select 'my contributions in UK' and output as XML (or JSON?).
Need a file that can be imported in to standard GIS packages.
Any help gratefully received.

Cheers
Steve

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[OSM-talk] Celebrating Cartography

[Steve Chilton]

The Society of Cartographers is hosting a public lecture (and debate) entitled 
'Celebrating cartography'.
It is on Friday 25 July at UCL in central London.
The speaker is Ed Parsons, of Google and good friend of the Openstreetmap 
project.
There was a profile of Ed in yesterday's Independent:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/the-man-whos-making-google-maps-smarter-9544478.html
However, he will not be talking about this Googly stuff.
His brief is to review the last 50 years of cartography and its changes and 
their impact (plenty of OSM scope there).
Afterwards there will a discussion panel, with myself, Ed and Gary Gale.
It should be a great evening, followed by the obligatory relaxed geobeers 
afterwards.
Details: http://soc.org.uk/
Booking is free and can be done at: 
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/celebrating-cartography-tickets-11696587809
Hope to see you there.

PS: you may also be interest in the SoC conf, in Sept in Glasgow: 
http://www.soc.org.uk/soc2014/

Cheers
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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM on Radio5

[Steve Chilton]

I was one of the contributors to the programme and I actually said a lot more 
about OSM - but they chose to cut because of time constraints.
Gave description of the ways OSMers map, and used examples from Haiti 
earthquake mapping (mapping in emergencies) and Kibera (maps as empowering 
tools) etc
My original brief was to talk about 'neocartography', so OSM was just one 
aspect of it.
But nevertheless an interesting programme and always good to get the 
cartography message out there.

Cheers
Steve

From: John Baker [rovas...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 5:53 PM
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] OSM on Radio5

Broadcast in the early hours of tuesday morning on Radio5. Outriders is a BBC 
tech show and last week was called on the map about mapping, a lot of it 
about community mapping aka OSM but it wasn't mentioned explicitly much.

Now available for podcast about half an hour long

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/pods

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[Talk-GB] Spread the OSM message

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OSMers,

I would really like to showcase good work folk are doing with OSM data/maps at 
the Society of Cartographers conference.
Would anyone like to pitch a presentation at the joint SoC/ICA conference in 
Glasgow this September.
The following is the formal call for papers.
Feel free to contact me if you wish to discuss possibilities.
Also, Central Glasgow looks to be pretty well mapped, but some of the outlying 
areas could use some map-love.
So, a mapping party could be incorporated or butted-up up to the conference if 
anyone fancies working with me on that.

CALL FOR PAPERS:

The 50th Society of Cartographers conference takes place from 31 Aug-2 Sept 
2014 at the University of Glasgow. The afternoon session on Tuesday 2 Sept is 
to be a joint one, with the ICA Commission in Neocartography 
[http://neocartography.icaci.org/] joining with the SoC for the occasion.

If you would like to offer a presentation as part of the programme at this 
event, please email a title and a 200 word abstract to ste...@mdx.ac.uk  by Fri 
March 14th. The major themes of the session are:
*   Innovation in proprietary online mapping systems
*   Innovation with open source mapping services
*   Interesting map designs in the new milleau
*   Designing maps for mobile devices
*   Mapping from social media and crowdsourced data

The programme committee will review proposals, and decisions relayed to all who 
have submitted by Fri 11 April.
http://www.soc.org.uk/soc2014/program.html

Cheers
Steve


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[OSM-talk] Mapping in Ghana

[Steve Chilton]

Anyone mapping (on the ground) in Ghana and/or involved in community mapping 
there?
A member of my family is going there shortly and emailed me:
I'm looking at the Kakum national park and surrounding area (5-10km). I'm most 
interesting in doing some mapping with the communities - participatory mapping. 
I doubt much has been done, but if you know of anything or anyone working in 
that area it'd be useful to be put in touch.
I have looked at the Ghana page on wiki but it looks inconclusive and 
out-of-date.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ghana
Can also show him http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc but suspect many of the 
Ghana entries are armchair mappers.

Cheers
Steve


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[OSM-talk] good intro slidesets about OSM

[Steve Chilton]

Have had a look around the wiki but can't find what I thought was there - a 
repository of slideshows folk had agreed to share. Have had this request from a 
lecturer at Oregon State University, which it is in project's interest to 
provide resources for:

I am teaching an introductory map reading course this term and would like to 
introduce students to OSM. I am looking for introductory level Powerpoint-style 
slides about OSM ideas, concepts, architecture (database, rendering, tiles 
etc.) and how user contribute their own data (preferably by the example of the 
new iD editor). Do you know of any such freely available slides that I could 
use for lecturing one or two hours?

Any links or offers gratefully received.

Can obviously point to these as well:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guide
http://learnosm.org/en/


Cheers
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[Talk-GB] Mapping Showcase

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Guys

Am looking for an active OSMer to join me at the Mapping Showcase on Thu 28 Nov.
http://www.geoinformationgroup.co.uk/training/ms13
The Society of Cartographers has again booked and paid for a stand at this 
showcase.
It is a good opportunity to spread the Open word.
The last two years Robert Scott has joined us.
I would someone like to volunteer to come along and hand out OSM leaflets, and 
talk up the benefits of OSM data?
All you need to do is to register at the website (FREE) and then let me know 
who you are so I can look out for you.

Cheers
Steve


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[OSM-talk] Irish placenames anomaly

[Steve Chilton]

The distribution of Irish placenames from OSM presents a couple of geographical 
anomalies. (See 
http://steve8.dev.openstreetmap.org/OSM_Placenames_Ireland.jpg). First, the 
west-east central belt has suspiciously far fewer names than immediately to the 
north and south. And secondly, bang in the middle of this belt is a roughly 
circular area with a dense mass of placenames.
Any explanations spring to mind...?

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Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

[Steve Chilton]

Number seems in right sort of range for me.
You could get some guinea pigs to do sanity checks by checking numbers before 
and after an extensive house number mapping effort by themselves

Cheers
Steve

From: Frederik Ramm [frede...@remote.org]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 9:53 PM
To: Talk Openstreetmap
Subject: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

Hi,

I've made a program that counts how many house numbers someone has
added. It uses object history, so it should be able to correctly award
the count to the person actually adding the addr:housenumber tag.

I don't yet know what will happen with this, but before I make further
plans, here's the current list of all accounts that have added
addresses, and how many:

http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/housenumbers.html

It would be great if you could find your name on the list and do a quick
sanity check in your head whether this looks right or not.

According to this list, 208 accounts have added more than 10k house
numbers - if any one of them has actually surveyed that many houses they
should be awarded a prize! A further ~ 1400 have done between 1k and 10k
numbers, and ~ 4600 have done between 100 and 1k numbers.

It is quite possible that the program has bugs so if you notice
something strange, do mention it.

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[OSM-talk] Join us at the Mapping Showcase

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Would any keen OSMers like to join us at the Mapping Showcase?
The Society of Cartographers have taken a stand at the event.
It is at Lords cricket ground in London on Dec 6th.
The event is very similar to that at the Emirates last year were we also shared 
a stand.
http://www.londonmappingfestival.org/mapping-showcase2012/
Anyone who would like to join us for all or part of the day should contact me, 
and sign up (free) as a delegate
It is a great chance to spread the word about the value of OSM data, and maybe 
add fine detail around the venue.

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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM mapping parties/events in London in November

[Steve Chilton]

Kathleen

Regular socials. See: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/Winter_2012-2013_Pub_Meetup
You will just miss one!
Harry et al - fix one for 18/19th?
PS: John Snow is a fine pub (in my view)

Cheers
Steve

From: Kathleen Danielson [mailto:kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com]
Sent: 31 October 2012 14:46
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] OSM mapping parties/events in London in November

Hi All,

Sorry to burst into the conversation here, but I organize the Geo DC 
meetupshttp://www.meetup.com/Geo-DC/ in Washington, DC, and I am going to be 
in London for vacation on Nov 4-6 and again Nov 18-19, and I was wondering if 
those dates might overlap with any chances to socialize! I'm very new to OSM, 
but I just attended State of the Map US a few weeks ago, and I'm excited to 
learn more and meet more of this really interesting community.

Are there any meetups or mapping parties planned, or would anyone be interested 
in meeting up for a drink then? One thing that I know for certain I'll be doing 
is heading to SoHo to check out the [site of the] Broad Street pump and the 
John Snow pub. No idea if the pub is any good, but John Snow is a pretty 
interesting character, so I'm excited to follow up some of the reading I've 
done recently by actually walking around the neighborhood that saw the worst of 
that particular cholera 
outbreakhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1854_Broad_Street_cholera_outbreak.

Anyway, just wanted to see if there way any interest.

Cheers!
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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM mapping parties/events in London in November

[Steve Chilton]

Kathleen

Language really not likely to be a barrier where you are going!

PS: should have said - a really good book on the whole Snow/cholera thing is: 
http://www.theghostmap.com/

Cheers
Steve

From: Kathleen Danielson [mailto:kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com]
Sent: 31 October 2012 15:53
To: Philip Barnes
Cc: OSM Talk GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM mapping parties/events in London in November

Nope-- between those days I'll actually be in Amsterdam, Brussels, Bruges, and 
Paris. (Steeling myself to touch base with those groups for the same reason, 
but I'm sheepish about the language barrier.)
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Philip Barnes 
p...@trigpoint.me.ukmailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:

 If you are in other parts of the UK between those days you may find other 
areas with social meetings too.



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On 31/10/2012 15:04 Tom Hughes wrote:
On 31/10/12 14:45, Kathleen Danielson wrote:
 Sorry to burst into the conversation here, but I organize the Geo DC
 meetups http://www.meetup.com/Geo-DC/ in Washington, DC, and I am
 going to be in London for vacation on Nov 4-6 and again Nov 18-19, and I
 was wondering if those dates might overlap with any chances to
 socialize! I'm very new to OSM, but I just attended State of the Map US
 a few weeks ago, and I'm excited to learn more and meet more of this
 really interesting community.
We've got one tomorrow, but that's a tad too early... Hopefully Harry
will chip in shortly and say when we might do the next one.
 Are there any meetups or mapping parties planned, or would anyone be
 interested in meeting up for a drink then? One thing that I know for
 certain I'll be doing is heading to SoHo to check out the [site of the]
 Broad Street pump and the John Snow pub. No idea if the pub is any good,
 but John Snow is a pretty interesting character, so I'm excited to
 follow up some of the reading I've done recently by actually walking
 around the neighborhood that saw the worst of that particular cholera
 outbreak http://www.meetup.com/Geo-DC/.
The John Snow is reasonable - it's a Sam Smith's pub these days so
nothing special except that the beer is cheap.
We have used it once or twice for meetups, but not recently.
Tom

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Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre

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Richard

Another version (from CASA @UCL):
http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Map.aspx?name=FAIRHURSTyear=1998altyear=1881country=GBtype=name

Cheers
Steve

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Sent: 08 October 2012 14:26
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Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre

Nick Whitelegg wrote:
 As an aside I'm quite surprised at that, as almost all places ending 
 in hurst in the UK are south of the M4 and east of two degrees west.

That sort of factoid is surely what OpenStreetMap was invented for. :)

The origin of Fairhursts is quite starkly regional, though:
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/name-origin?surname=fairhurst

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[OSM-talk] Slides and vids from ICA and SoC confs

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There are a whole range of resources online from the ICA Neocartography 
workshop and the Society of Cartographers conf.

A report on the ICA Neocartography Commission workshop is on the ICA website 
at: http://icaci.org/first-meeting-of-the-commission-on-neocartography/ 

Videos of all 6 presentations at the Neocartography workshop are linked from 
there and available directly at: 
http://neocartography.icaci.org/2012/09/commision-workshop-at-ucl-slide-decks-reports-videos/
 - including a brilliant one on The unstoppable advance of OpenStreetMap by 
Richard Fairhurst.
This site also has links to blog reports on the ICA workshop from contributors 
Ben Hennig and Gary Gale

Slides and video recording from Prof Jerry Brotton's SoC keynote The 
cartographic rhetoric of globalism are at: http://soc2012.soc.org.uk/slides
Also there are slides from 10 more of the presentations at SoC conf and two of 
the workshops, by Andy Alan and Harry Wood

Cheers
Steve

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[OSM-talk] Neocartography

[Steve Chilton]

Full (and fascinating) programme for ICA Neocartography session at UCL 5 Sept 
now available:
http://neocartography.icaci.org/
It would be good to see some more OSMers there.
Sign up (for free) with Eventbrite.
See also the Society of Cartographers conf which is linked from that page and 
may well have sessions of interest (eg Tilemill workshop).

Cheers
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[OSM-talk] What's new in cartography

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Find out what's is new in cartography at the ICA Neocartography workshop, UCL 
Sept 5th
Details and registration (it's free) at:
http://neocartography.icaci.org/

There may well be sessions of interest to you at the Society of Cartographers 
Conference.
Presenters include David Earl, Andy Allan, Harry Wood, Ollie O'Brien and Steve 
Chilton.
Details and booking at: http://www.soc2012.soc.org.uk/


Cheers
Steve

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[OSM-talk] Wanted

[Steve Chilton]

I am looking for two knowledgeable OSM community people to run workshops at a 
conference I am helping coordinate in London in September.
One to run a workshop on using OSM data (demystifying licence, access, formats, 
exporting, metadata etc) - opening the door to the data to cartographers
The second is to demonstrate the mapbox/tilemill capabilities and workflow
Negotiable incentives may be available (certainly free conference attendance, 
possibly some travel).
Conference is the Society of Cartographers at UCL 3-5 Sept (workshops on Tues 
4th Sept): 
http://www.soc2012.soc.org.uk/
Any suggestions or contacts welcomed, thanks.

Cheers
Steve Chilton (@steev8)
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Re: [OSM-talk] Map key on osm.org

[Steve Chilton]

I produced the images (ages ago).
If there are anomalies in the colours or symbols please let me know as I can 
change them.
They are deliberately a subset of all the possible entities that could be 
included.

Cheers
Steve

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-Original Message-
From: Tom Hughes [mailto:t...@compton.nu] 
Sent: 22 March 2012 13:37
To: Peter Wendorff
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Map key on osm.org

On 22/03/12 13:23, Peter Wendorff wrote:

 How is the map key (german: Legende) generated on osm.org?
 It looks like it is out of sync for the mapnik rendering (viewing from
 Germany, description texts are in german).
 - some items are not matching between map key and map
 - many items rendered in the map are not reflected in the map key

 Has this e.g. to be generated for an updated mapnik stylesheet?

It's completely manual - at some point somebody gave me a load of images 
and text and I build a key from them.

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Re: [Talk-GB] National Library of Scotland maps

[Steve Chilton]

Andy

Thanks from me for working on this with Chris Fleet and co at NLS.
One point to check is out-of-copyrightness of the individual sheets as 
presumably that affects our ability to use.
As usual, just ask if you need any input from me.

Cheers
Steve

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-Original Message-
From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 06 March 2012 05:19
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Cc: c.fl...@nls.uk
Subject: [Talk-GB] National Library of Scotland maps

Folks,

As per earlier email from Bob Kerr, National Library of Scotland now has the
OS 1-inch 7th series online. It also has the whole of Scotland and part of
northern England north of Manchester available at 1:25,000 too (The
Provisional Edition/First Series). I've added the correct tms settings for
JOSM to the relevant pages of our wiki.

The two TMS values are:
For the 7th series use:
tms:http://geo.nls.uk/mapdata2/os/seventh/{zoom}/{x}/{-y}.png
For the 1:25,000 maps use:
tms:http://geo.nls.uk/mapdata2/os/25000/{zoom}/{x}/{-y}.png

Note the -y value in the above, NLS is using the OSGeo tile numbering
rather than Google/OSM tile numbering format.

If you don't see imagery appearing it's probably because you are zoomed in
too much. The highest zoom level available appears to be 16 for the 1:25,000
and 15 for the 1-inch 7th series.

As far as I am aware NLS are keen to have us use these resources. Bob I know
has had some discussion and I have a call booked with the senior map curator
Chris Fleet for later in the week. I'll discuss some more with him and find
out to what extent we can make use and to what extent they still have more
to come online. Note also that there are other layers available, especially
for Scotland, check them out via the mosaic viewer at
http://geo.nls.uk/search/mosaic/ I haven't checked but I'm guessing we
should be able to create TMS links for all of those that are useful.

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Re: [Talk-GB] The state of Bristol in OSM

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If that is a general question then yes I am working on this in my 'watched' 
areas - initially my home Borough (Enfield).
If it is about Bristol then no I am not working on it

Cheers
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From: Tim François [mailto:sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 13 January 2012 14:43
To: Laurence Penney; Simon Murphy; Paul Jaggard; Tim Francois; Dave F.; Craig 
Ellis
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] The state of Bristol in OSM

All,

To see what would happen to Bristol in April, see 
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfelon=-2.57888lat=51.46006zoom=12overlays=overview,wtfe_point_clean,wtfe_line_clean,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,wtfe_line_createdhttp://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfeamp;lon=-2.57888amp;lat=51.46006amp;zoom=12amp;overlays=overview,wtfe_point_clean,wtfe_line_clean,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,wtfe_line_created

I've started in my local area, basically deleting any problem roads or pois 
which I'm familiar with (and actually have contributed to in one way or 
another), and replaced them with entirely new roads or pois, using my own local 
knowledge mostly, and Bing and OS OpenData where appropriate.

Question: is anyone else doing this? Are people waiting until April 1st to fill 
the gaps? I look foward to the varied opinions!

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Re: [OSM-talk] Heute Abend OSM Stammtisch Wien

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Can recommend the venue if you are around!!

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Sent: 11 January 2012 12:37
To: talk@openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap AT
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Heute Abend OSM Stammtisch Wien

On 11.01.2012 12:54, Felix Hartmann wrote:
 Nur mal so als kurze Erinnering. ab 17:00 Uhr im Wieden Bräu...

I think Felix wanted to send that Mail to the talk-at list for Austria. 
It's a reminder that the bimonthly OSM meeting in Vienna will take place 
today at the restaurant Wieden Bräu.

If you happen to be in Vienna today you are of course invited, but I 
think most of you can safely ignore that message.

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Re: [Talk-at] [OSM-talk] Heute Abend OSM Stammtisch Wien

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Can recommend the venue if you are around!!

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On 11.01.2012 12:54, Felix Hartmann wrote:
 Nur mal so als kurze Erinnering. ab 17:00 Uhr im Wieden Bräu...

I think Felix wanted to send that Mail to the talk-at list for Austria. 
It's a reminder that the bimonthly OSM meeting in Vienna will take place 
today at the restaurant Wieden Bräu.

If you happen to be in Vienna today you are of course invited, but I 
think most of you can safely ignore that message.

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[Talk-GB] OSM at the Mapping Showcase

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On Dec 1st I am manning a (paid for) stand at the Mapping Showcase on behalf of 
the Society of Cartographers and want to use the occasion to also spotlight 
OpenStreetMap
http://www.londonmappingfestival.org/mapping-show-2011/
I would like to offer a get out and add to the best map of London opportunity 
to people coming by the stand.
Is anyone available to help me for all or part of the day please?
My plan is to print some very small sections of the map in advance, together 
with an overview map to help locate them.
Then give people briefing on what they can map, ask them to go out for 30 mins 
or so and return with annotated map.
Plenty of POI detail and even some addressing that could be filled in if you 
look around the Emirates Stadium
Then either take it off them (and edit myself later) or teach them basics of 
editing on the spot.
So need a couple of helpers, who can come along with a laptop and enthusiasm.
It won't cost owt to get in and could be another good advert for the project.
I have 300 of the publicity leaflets from cyclestore to use on the day.
The space available to SoC is quite limited but just need to work with that 
difficulty

PS: I have managed to get a double page spread on OSM in the book that is tied 
to the event too:
http://www.londonmappingfestival.org/2011/11/coming-soon/
It is of Hyde Park, with two small enlargements for detail

We could also form a team for the pub quiz later too!

Cheers
STEVE


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Re: [Talk-GB] [SPAM: 3.000] Re: 1:25,000 OOC OS maps - Update

[Steve Chilton]

Andy

I reckon I could be up for that, possibly coming up for a day rather than 
weekend, to help.
You can also count on a contribution towards scanner hire from me.

Cheers
STEVE

From: Andy Robinson [ajrli...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:34 PM
To: 'Michael Collinson'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [SPAM: 3.000] Re: [Talk-GB] 1:25,000 OOC OS maps - Update

I'd like to organise a scanning party. One weekend soon. Need to raise
about £200ish to rent the large scanner and then with a few others to create
a good workflow spend a couple of days one weekend scanning all the sheets.
If anyone is interested in helping let me know and I'll propose some dates.
After that my plan would be to get the scans up on the OSM dev box and have
someone help with a little extra code to help with the rectification
process. This should help speed everything up.

Cheers
Andy

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Collinson [mailto:m...@ayeltd.biz]
 Sent: 22 October 2011 14:51
 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
 Cc: Andy Robinson
 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 1:25,000 OOC OS maps - Update

 Just catching up so a late posting. Thanks to Andy and Mike for this.
 Even with Bing imagery and OS OpenData, the 1:25k series are a great
source
 of local names in rural areas and of historic features, (archeological
sites,
 tumuli, stone rings, battle fields, roman roads, old mining sites and
more) for
 a historical map of the UK that is slowly evolving thanks to Graham Jones.

 My personal wish-list to see soon: anything up the northern Pennines and
 Yorkshire, Durham mining areas.

 Mike

 On 27/08/2011 20:41, Andy Robinson wrote:
  As many may know I've been collecting OS 1:25k provisional edition map
  sheets for the last few years. I'd got to around a third of the set of
  2027 sheets before the summer. As a result of a very generous donation
  from the University of Glasgow (Thanks go to Mike Shand) I now have
  66% of the full set. In addition I have many different sheet editions
  for the north of the country and Scotland and a great many duplicates,
  some of which will be sold to help raise funds to secure the remaining
  1/3rd of the set that are still needed for full coverage.
 
  I've now finished cataloguing the provisional series maps from
  Glasgow, over
  1850 sheets in all, and you can find the updated table and graphical
  chart showing coverage from the links at:
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Provisional/First_Edition
 
  The next job will be to restart rectification and tiling to enable
  their use in the OSM editing tools and other purposes. Because of the
  sudden influx I'm looking at possibilities of scanning off site and
  distributing the rectification process, all suggestions and offers on
  that would be most appreciated.
 
  Ping me if you have any questions or have an area of coverage you
  would particularly like to see available soon.
 
  You can see the current tiled sheets at:
  http://ooc.openstreetmap.org/?zoom=6lat=53.96418lon=-
 3.92646layers=
  000B0
 
  Cheers
  Andy
 

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[Talk-GB] Crowdsourcing crowdsourcing

[Steve Chilton]

The London Mapping Festival organisation 
(http://www.londonmappingfestival.org/) is producing a book to commemorate the 
Festival.
They have asked me to provide a suitable OSM map image to represent the project.
To accompany the map I have been asked to write around 200 words of text 
explaining the choice.
In the annex there will be 500 words on the project which I will also put 
together (quite short notice).
By this email I am asking the crowd to nominate a map view of London that you 
think shows off the mapping that has been done in London for the best.
Please also give your reasons.
I have my own ideas, but would like to see what others think, and hopefully 
have a bit of concensus on what to use.
I don't know yet how large a page space is available, but am asking for more 
info.
Please send a URL or written explanation of your view.

Cheers
STEVE

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[Talk-GB] Info about SoC and SoC conference

[Steve Chilton]

Anyone who would like more information about this year's Society of 
Cartographers conference (Muki, Chippy, Harry, Stevy [and I believe Jerry] are 
all speaking!), or about SoC itself might like a peek at the latest newsletter 
- also bits about London Mapping Festival and International Cartographic 
Association.
http://www.soc.org.uk/Jul2011_Newsletter.pdf

Cheers
STEVE

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Educational Development Manager
Centre for Learning and Teaching Enhancement
Middlesex University
phone: 020 8411 5355
email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk
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Re: [OSM-talk] early OSM webmap request

[Steve Chilton]

Floris

Thanks for that.
Thanks to all who replied - I have several good examples to choose from now.

As an aside it does point up fact that it would be good if someone took bull by 
horns and wrote a definitive history of OSM, sooner rather than later whilst 
information, images etc are easily available (and no i am not the right person 
for that task!).

Cheers
STEVE

From: Floris Looijesteijn [o...@floris.nu]
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 8:14 PM
To: Steve Chilton
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] early OSM webmap request

There's one on the bottom of WikiProject The Netherlands:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Netherlands

Greets,
Floris

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Steve Chilton s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk wrote:
 For my SOTMEU presentation I need an image of the OSM webmap prior to 
 mapnik, the old landsat +white lines version.
 I have looked on 'history' and 'featured images' on wiki but no luck.
 There are a couple of examples in blackadder and coast lecture presentations 
 in SVN but not really clear enough to use.
 Can anyone send me, or point me to, a suitable image (even the famous 
 Regent's Park one would be fine!)?

 OSM Wiki has some uploaded images, and there wasn't that much activity
 in 2005-2006.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFilessort=img_timestamplimit=50asc=1

 e.g.

 Stockholm
 http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Stockholm-Openstreetmap.png

 Oxford
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OxfordMap-20060604.jpg

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[OSM-talk] early OSM webmap request

[Steve Chilton]

For my SOTMEU presentation I need an image of the OSM webmap prior to mapnik, 
the old landsat +white lines version. 
I have looked on 'history' and 'featured images' on wiki but no luck.
There are a couple of examples in blackadder and coast lecture presentations in 
SVN but not really clear enough to use.
Can anyone send me, or point me to, a suitable image (even the famous Regent's 
Park one would be fine!)?

Cheers
STEVE

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[Talk-GB] More OS 7th series sheets available

[Steve Chilton]

Another batch of OS 7th series out-of-copyright maps are now available to 
OSMers (and others).
See website for latest coverage:
http://steve8.dev.openstreetmap.org/os7.htm
Page also has links to other out-of-copyright maps, how to use the 7th series 
maps, and the live instance of the sheets in a slippy map.
Thanks to James Rutter for scanning and to Tim Sheerman-Chase for rectifying 
and tiling.

Cheers
STEVE

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Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

[Steve Chilton]

The audit might also identify area champions.
I feel that I have a pretty good eye on what is happening in my Borough 
(Enfield) and try to be actively maintaining the data for it (possibly less 
well in southern edge of Borough).
Would it help to see what parts of London have similar active community 
monitors in place?

Cheers
STEVE

From: Tom Chance [t...@acrewoods.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:28 AM
To: Andy Allan
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

On 3 April 2011 10:28, Andy Allan 
gravityst...@gmail.commailto:gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
I've found this in swathes of south London - pairs of naptan and
non-naptan bus stops along major roads, suggesting that it's been
years of things not being fixed up before I noticed. I was quite
surprised to see that given that London is one of our most
actively-mapped areas!

One reason is probably that swathes of south London were mapped in parties 
pre:NAPTAN and haven't seen much comprehensive love since then from local 
mappers. I've noticed many of the bus stop pairs in areas that also still have 
TimC's very roughly traced residential areas and a thin smattering of POIs.

It would be interesting to use these bus stop pairs (and the verified tag on 
NAPTAP stops); the OS Locator comparison tools; perhaps POI density and TimC's 
residential areas; all to produce an audit of the OSM community in London... 
which areas are receiving active attention, and which are just improved 
occasionally by people passing through?

My perception is that in Southwark, for example, only about a third of it is 
actively mapped.

Regards,
Tom


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Re: [Talk-GB] Hack weekend

[Steve Chilton]

Not even sure they were checking it today when I went in!

Steve

From: Ed Avis [e...@waniasset.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 8:49 PM
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] Hack weekend

I'd like to attend the hack weekend tomorrow (though not sure yet I'll be able
to make it).  I have added my name to the wiki page - hopefully the building
reception will have the new page and not a printout from Friday?

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[Talk-GB] OS and OSM

[Steve Chilton]

I have been asked by editor of the Cartographic Journal to write a short piece 
on the effect of the release of OS OpenData on the OpenStreetMap project, and I 
am just trying to gather my thoughts, and make sure I cover all bases.
I was present at Blackadder's Society of Cartographers talk on Why OSM won't 
be bulk importing OS OpenData and am aware of the work Chris Hill has done on 
admin boundaries etc.
Obviously also aware of the ITO work with OS Locator and what people have done 
with that.
There was work on importing detailed water features, was that Chris as well 
(goes off to read back through his blog).
Can anyone point me to others who have explored the possibilities that OS 
OpenData provided - PARTICULARLY if they can evidence WHY it is NOT of value to 
OSM?

Cheers
STEVE

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Educational Development Manager
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Middlesex University
phone: 020 8411 5355
email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk
http://www.middlesex.wikispaces.net/user/view/steve8

Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/

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Re: [Talk-GB] OS and OSM

[Steve Chilton]

Tom

I am sure the overall message is going to be ground survey wins.
I am a get-out-and-map-it person but see a place for some of this data within 
that process.
Case studies like this are part of the evidence for why this is the case.
But also want to reflect more views than just my own.

Thanks for response

Cheers
STEVE

From: Tom Chance [mailto:t...@acrewoods.net]
Sent: 11 March 2011 11:00
To: Steve Chilton
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS and OSM

Steve,

In Southwark I experimented with bulk importing buildings auto-traced from OS 
StreetView, but gave up in favour of manually tracing from Bing imagery. I was 
supplementing both methods with ground surveys.

I switched when I approached central London parts of Southwark, where OS 
StreetView is of such poor quality that it was fairly useless.

In central and south Southwark I still think it provides a good first pass, 
which can be improved by tracing Bing imagery and ground surveys to refine 
shapes and add addresses.

Browse around and judge for yourself.

I would also cite the errors we have found in OS Locator as a reason for 
preferring ground surveys, using the OS product as a tool to indicate possible 
errors to check out. We found 56 errors in Southwark.

Regards,
Tom

On 11 March 2011 10:19, Steve Chilton 
s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.ukmailto:s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk wrote:
I have been asked by editor of the Cartographic Journal to write a short piece 
on the effect of the release of OS OpenData on the OpenStreetMap project, and I 
am just trying to gather my thoughts, and make sure I cover all bases.
I was present at Blackadder's Society of Cartographers talk on Why OSM won't 
be bulk importing OS OpenData and am aware of the work Chris Hill has done on 
admin boundaries etc.
Obviously also aware of the ITO work with OS Locator and what people have done 
with that.
There was work on importing detailed water features, was that Chris as well 
(goes off to read back through his blog).
Can anyone point me to others who have explored the possibilities that OS 
OpenData provided - PARTICULARLY if they can evidence WHY it is NOT of value to 
OSM?

Cheers
STEVE

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Educational Development Manager
Centre for Learning and Teaching Enhancement
Middlesex University
phone: 020 8411 5355
email: ste...@mdx.ac.ukmailto:ste...@mdx.ac.uk
http://www.middlesex.wikispaces.net/user/view/steve8

Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/

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[Talk-GB] Enfield update

[Steve Chilton]

After much survey and onground detective work work Enfield has 100% OS Locator 
 OSM roads match. 
It is first London Borough and largest authority (by road length) to do so. 
Next: completing all buildings. 
Am on what is probably my 4th iterative walk/cycle pass through whole Borough, 
collecting addresses and refining landuse as I go.

Cheers
STEVE

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Re: [OSM-talk] It's fun while it lasts

[Steve Chilton]

When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be 
thrown into the sea.

From: Jean-Marc Liotier [j...@liotier.org]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:33 AM
To: Chris Browet
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] It's fun while it lasts

Chris Browet wrote:

 Les carottes poussent la nuit...

 It means nothing... It is a private joke to
  make fun of people using proverbs too often :-)

Take it from a native French speaker that it sounds perfectly legit - it
got me googling it as I wondered why I had never heard it before... I'll
definitely reuse it !



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[OSM-talk] How deep into mapping are you?

[Steve Chilton]

I am on a bit of mission to get traditional cartographers and associations to 
encompass all the fantastic new mapping that is being produced by so-called 
neocartographers, which includes many folk working in the osm project and/or 
with the osm and other open data.

To this end I am submitting a proposal to the International Cartographic 
Association for a new Commission in Neocartography.
YOU could contribute as a member, contributor, observer or supporter (my 
terminology, not ICAs).
http://www.soc.org.uk/neocartography/

It has the approval of the UKCartoCommittee (who sponsor proposals with 
UK-nominated Chairs) and will be submitted in the next couple of weeks, for 
approval at the ICA conference in Paris early this summer. There is a nominated 
Vice-Chair, which is Manuela Schmidt - who is very involved in the organising 
team for SOTM-EU. Several folk have already indicated their support. Supporters 
do not have to be in academia, but just interested and involved in the wider 
world of mapping and geodata.
http://www.soc.org.uk/neocartography/supporters.htm

Have a look at the proposal. If appropriate I'd like to add YOU as a supporter 
(no commitment).
If you think you might be interested then please contact me.

Cheers
STEVE


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Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

[Steve Chilton]

Peter

I have been using the excellent analysis tool to try to complete roads data in 
my Borough (Enfield). I am now left with some that need a further very careful 
walk/bike survey. This is to deal with parts of North Circular and Hertford 
Road with weird combinations of road/ref names according to OS. I also have 
several spellers from OS data that are wrong and thus need reporting and will 
stop achievement of 100% till they are agreed/changed/reloaded (eg Smtyhe 
Close). I have looked on wiki and Ito blog for info on reporting these 
not:names but can't find info anywhere. Can you please point me to some info?
Keep up the grand work.

Cheers
STEVE


From: Peter Miller [peter.mil...@itoworld.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:36 AM
To: Tom Chance
Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?



On 3 February 2011 08:47, Tom Chance 
t...@acrewoods.netmailto:t...@acrewoods.net wrote:
On 2 February 2011 21:10, Peter Miller 
peter.mil...@itoworld.commailto:peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
It could do the following:

1) Add names to existing roads in osm where there is a single un-named ways in 
osm with a bounding box which matches that of a single entry in os locator.

2) In addition...  it might be able to also add roads to osm from os vector 
district, snapping them into existing roads as required where the existing 
roads align neatly with os streetview. It would only do this if there were no 
ways close by on either side.

Complex situations will be left to humans. Humans could also sometimes prepare 
an area for analysis by the bot, splitting ways as appropriate, adjusting 
alignment of existing roads and dealing in advance with situations we know the 
bot will have difficulties with.

Edits would be made as individual changesets, referenced to the mapper 
operating of the bot. Each edit would be 'signed off' by the mapper who would 
be able to see the proposed changes visual prior to accepting them.


To be clear, ITO are not proposing to write this bot but we would be happy to 
encourage and support it to happen if there is a general mood that it would be 
useful and achievable.


I'd be happy to review a few of these edits for Gwynedd, I've no objection if 
it works.

On another ITO-analysis note, Peter you are driving me slightly potty because 
new road errors keep popping up. I presume this is because of new OS data? 
Just when I thought I had all of Southwark bar the north east ear sorted, 
another six errors pop up. Grr.

Don't worry - this will only happen once every three months when the OS publish 
an updated OS Locator file. We updated to the latest OS Locator version (dated 
November 10) last night, hence a few places have fallen off their '100% perch'! 
We should be due another one reasonably soon I guess and may get it up sooner.

In time I hope that we will find that some of our 'not:name' reports will have 
been fixed by the OS. I hear that the OS is getting much more receptive to this 
whole Open Data thing. One layer I would like ITO to produce would be the 
reverse OS Locator view, which would be for the OS's use (and our amusement!). 
It would show all the named roads that are in OSM but which are not in the OS. 
They would then need to research why that is the case and update their own 
products (without compromising our license).



Regards,



Peter


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Re: [Talk-GB] Boundaries for Forestry Commission land

[Steve Chilton]

Not open, but available at magic.defra.co.uk:
http://magic.defra.gov.uk/datadoc/metadata.asp?dataset=24
http://magic.defra.gov.uk/datadoc/metadata.asp?dataset=25

Cheers
STEVE


From: Peter Miller [peter.mil...@itoworld.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:18 PM
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] Boundaries for Forestry Commission land

Is anyone aware of a place where one can download the boundaries of the 
Forestry Commission land (be it as open data or as closed data)?

If not then I will do a FOI request for it.


Regards,



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Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

[Steve Chilton]

Serious about changing highway=unsurfaced?
In response to Richard's suggestion I have rendered where they occur in England:
http://steve8.dev.openstreetmap.org/unsurfacedENG.png
I am currently rendering a tile set (down to about z10) to help identify exact 
locations.
These will be uploaded to a server and URL circulated shortly.
Richard has put his actions where his keyboard is and agreed to provide a 
Potlatch instance linked to it so edits can be done from it.
If this is helpful to folk then the process to can be repeated for Wales and 
Scotland (I am using geofabrik country files).
NB: I am afraid I cannot render and host tiles for any other parts of the world

Cheers
STEVE


-Original Message-
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On 
Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst
Sent: 10 January 2011 18:53
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced


Alex Mauer wrote:
 Sounds like the usage is wrong “round there” then.  The example image on 
 the wiki[1] clearly shows a road
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Fr%C3%BChlingslandschft_Aaretal_Schweiz.jpg

I think if you described that as a road in the UK you'd have the Trades
Descriptions people onto you pretty sharpish. Maybe this explains why our
newspapers get so over-excited when satnavs direct us down bumpy,
inhospitable things and claim they're roads. That would be described only
as a track here.

But it doesn't matter. There is simply no need to fiddle in this way. The
situation is just as it was last time Gorm tried to enforce his own idea of
tag tidiness
(http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-November/054639.html);
again, this change achieves nothing and is at risk of breaking plenty,
including every mkgmap .img based on its default styles.

A cursory glance suggests Britain appears to have more highway=unsurfaced
than other places, and even then there aren't that many. I will happily fix
200 of them _properly_ (i.e. with what the track actually is, not the
cop-out of highway=road) if someone creates a rendering to highlight where
they are. 

cheers
Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of construction sites by Mapnik

[Steve Chilton]

green/brownfield/construction lightened slightly
allotments lightened and hatched at higher zooms

Will display on next stylesheet deploy

Cheers
STEVE


From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf 
Of Floris Looijesteijn [...@floris.nu]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:15 PM
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of construction sites by Mapnik

And allotments...

Greets,
Floris

Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
 +1

 The same thing goes for landuse=brownfield (and also greenfield, I think).


 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 I think the rendering of construction sites (landuse=construction /
 brownfield) could be a little more subdued in color. As it is they
 stand out too much, I believe.
 See here for example: http://osm.org/go/0E5qt253--
 A lighter tone of brown maybe? IANAC[1]
 What do you think?

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[OSM-talk] Use of Bing imagery visualised - update

[Steve Chilton]

Updated and colour differentiated:
http://www.stevechilton.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/osm/buildingsBing.png

Cheers
STEVE

-Original Message-
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On 
Behalf Of Steve Chilton
Sent: 23 December 2010 00:23
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Use of Bing imagery visualised

Have done a quick render to show the effect of using Bing imagery to get 
building outlines.
The two illustrations are for the Borough of Enfield (using today's geofabrik 
data file).
The larger shapes are predominantly those done earlier from OS OpenData.
The smaller shapes are a bunch of buildings traced from Bing imagery.
Whole Borough http://www.stevechilton.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/osm/buildings1.png
Detail http://www.stevechilton.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/osm/buildings2.png

Cheers
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[OSM-talk] FW: Workshop on Public Transport Geoinformation - Call for papers

[Steve Chilton]

Interested in mapping and transport?
See details below of a conference this July - 'User Issues in Geospatial Public 
Transport Information'
www.univie.ac.at/icacomuse


Cheers
STEVE

-Original Message-
From: David Forrest [mailto:david.forr...@glasgow.ac.uk] 
Sent: 20 December 2010 12:35
To: carto-...@lists.shef.ac.uk
Subject: [carto-soc] Workshop on Public Transport Geoinformation - Call for 
papers

The ICA Commission on Use  User Issues are seeking contributions for a 
workshop on User Issues in Geospatial Public Transport Information - see 
www.univie.ac.at/icacomuse

The workshop will be held in Paris, 1st  2nd July 2011 (immediately prior to 
the ICA Conference 4-8th July 2011).
It is planned to have a mixed programme of presentations, demonstrations and 
poster sessions:

* Paper presentations: 15 minute presentation + questions; 1000 word
  extended abstract required.
* Demonstrations of on-line transport information systems: 8 minute
  presentation + questions; 500 word abstract required.
* Poster sessions: 2 minute introduction to poster at start of
  viewing session; 500 word abstract required.

We also plan to incorporate some active user testing of the Public transport 
information available in Paris. Can you find your way or will you get lost?

  Key dates are:
15 February: deadline for submission of abstracts for papers, demonstrations 
and posters
15 April: notification of acceptance of papers, demonstrations and posters for 
presentation
15 May: deadline for early registration
1 June: deadline for submission of revised extended abstracts
1 June: deadline for submission of maps for Public Transport Map Exhibition
1  2 July: Workshop

We hope to gain the support of commercial providers to help offset costs. 
Offers or suggestions most welcome.

Please circulate this information widely to those with interests in Public 
Transport and User Issues.

Abstracts should be sent to: david.forr...@glasgow.ac.uk who can also be 
contacted for further information.

--
*
David Forrest PhD, FBCart.S
Senior Lecturer
School of Geographical  Earth Sciences
University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ
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[OSM-talk] Use of Bing imagery visualised

[Steve Chilton]

Have done a quick render to show the effect of using Bing imagery to get 
building outlines.
The two illustrations are for the Borough of Enfield (using today's geofabrik 
data file).
The larger shapes are predominantly those done earlier from OS OpenData.
The smaller shapes are a bunch of buildings traced from Bing imagery.
Whole Borough http://www.stevechilton.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/osm/buildings1.png
Detail http://www.stevechilton.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/osm/buildings2.png

Cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] Beginners guide to mapping technique?

[Steve Chilton]

Not quite sure what you are looking for, but there is a downloadable chapter 
from the OpenStrretMap book called Mapping practice at:
http://www.openstreetmap.info/content/index.html
There is also much useful data on the wiki, starting at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guide
If you have questions then try:
http://help.openstreetmap.org/

Cheers
STEVE


From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf 
Of Dave F. [dave...@madasafish.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:07 PM
To: OSM Talk
Subject: [OSM-talk] Beginners guide to mapping technique?

Hi

Is there a guide, not so much for the mechanics like learning how to use
a GPS  upload data, but more about the technique  etiquette of mapping
such as map what you see on the ground etc.

Cheers
Dave F.

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Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap promotional leaflets

[Steve Chilton]

Thanks for providing this service for OSM, it is really useful - so encourage 
others to use it. They are real neat.
As Andy knows I had 50 and distributed them in the delegate packs at the 
AGI/BCS Better Mapping workshop yesterday

Cheers
STEVE

From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On 
Behalf Of Andy Allan [gravityst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:32 AM
To: Talk-GB
Subject: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap promotional leaflets

Hi All,

Promotional leaflets! For Free! You don't even need to pay postage!

I have here under my desk thousands (~9,450 remaining) of promotional
flyers that Frederik has designed and got printed, for use at meetups,
conferences and generally handing out to potential new recruits. They
are A7 glossy pre-folded leaflets, and if you want some you can have
them. They've been handing out similar ones in Germany for a while
now, and there's been great feedback from doing so. I've been giving
them out at WhereCampUK and London meetups, but they are for
distribution all around the UK and Ireland hence the online ordering.

Simply go to 
http://shop.opencyclemap.org/products/openstreetmap-promotional-leaflets
and choose whether you want 10, 50 or 100 sent to you, and I'll put
them in the post. For free.

Thanks go to UIT Cambridge - publishers of Frederik's and Steev8's
book - for paying for printing and also generously covering the
postage costs.

Cheers,
Andy

P.S. Hold your nose while going through the PayPal bit of things, they
aren't geared up for processing zero-cost payments so it's a bit
clunky.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

[Steve Chilton]

Thanks for that. I will try to live up to your image!

The other SteveC

From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf 
Of Kenneth Gonsalves [law...@au-kbc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:21 AM
To: Frederik Ramm
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of 
Bing Mobile

On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:12 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote:

 On 11/24/10 04:41, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
  then who is the older bearded guy? Or is he a fake?

 The older bearded guy hasn't yet joined Microsoft as far as I'm
 aware.

now I have sorted it out - there are two of them. Only SteveC sometimes
comes across as cantankerous, so I pictured him a a Stallman like figure
with wrinkles and beard - and hence got confused.
--
regards
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Re: [OSM-talk] How do I go about doing this?

[Steve Chilton]

You will also score good brownie points if you include a URL (or two) pointing 
to an instance of the particular feature you are referring too.

Cheers
STEVE

-Original Message-
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On 
Behalf Of Richard Weait
Sent: 08 November 2010 13:21
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How do I go about doing this?

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Donald Campbell II
donaciano2...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's a few tag adjustments I'd like to try and make in some different
 tools.
 I don't think this is really a newbie question so I'm asking here.
 For example there's a tag I've been using that encodes information useful in
 navigation but isn't being used in any renderers.  (I'm not mentioning the
 tag right now because I want to know the process involved not debate my tag)
 At what point is a tag more or less recognized?
 Since wiki tag proposals seem to be ignored or unadopted, in what way can I
 ensure I'm using the correct tag?
 What is the process for getting a tag accepted into mapnik?

You might be using your tag perfectly and still it might never get
rendered in a specific map rendering layer.  No single map layer can
satisfy every potential viewer.  You can use Mapnik yourself, and
render a map to suit your requirements.

Still, without guarantees, the OSM Mapnik style maintainers are
volunteers.  If your request has any hope of being accepted by the
maintainers, you can make things much easier on them, by doing the
work yourself.  Create an icon, create and test a working ruleset,
create a diff so that they can apply it to their style, and send all
of that as a trac item, feature request against component mapnik
in the OpenStreetMap trac system.  That could make the difference
between them thinking, um, possible, but I don't have time for that
right now and thinking, well with all of the answers provided, I can
do that quickly.

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[OSM-talk] Blog: thoughts on OSM

[Steve Chilton]

Thoughts on OSM in interview with Ed Freyfogle on Nestoria blog

Cheers
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[OSM-talk] OSM book

[Steve Chilton]

OpenStreetMap: Using and Enhancing the Free Map of the World by Ramm, Topf 
and Chilton is now widely available and selling well.

Purchase from:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/OpenStreetMap/dp/1906860114/ - where it is currently 
#32 in   Books  Reference  Consumer Guides  Computer  Internet
http://www.amazon.com/OpenStreetMap/dp/1906860114/
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781906860110/OpenStreetMap?a_aid=UIT

and now thanks to Andy Allan at:
http://shop.opencyclemap.org/products/openstreetmap-book
(UK and Ireland only)

Cheers
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[Talk-GB] OSM book

[Steve Chilton]

OpenStreetMap: Using and Enhancing the Free Map of the World by Ramm, Topf 
and Chilton is now widely available and selling well.

Purchase from:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/OpenStreetMap/dp/1906860114/ - where it is currently 
#32 in   Books  Reference  Consumer Guides  Computer  Internet
http://www.amazon.com/OpenStreetMap/dp/1906860114/
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781906860110/OpenStreetMap?a_aid=UIT

and now thanks to Andy Allan at:
http://shop.opencyclemap.org/products/openstreetmap-book
(UK and Ireland only)

Cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM book in English published

[Steve Chilton]

It does - as far as I know - still generate income for project.
80n may be best person to answer that as I believe agreement was established 
when he was OSMF Treasurer.
If it is we should perhaps be pushing it more as many Amazon purchases must be 
made over the OSM community

Cheers
STEVE

-Original Message-
From: Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 21:55
To: Steve Chilton; talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] OSM book in English published

Steve wrote:

 OpenStreetMap: Using, and Contributing to, the Free World Map
 (Paperback, in English) by Ramm/Topf/Chilton will be available
 in 5 days. Pre-order at discount
 http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781906860110/
 
 OpenGeoData post about it: http://opengeodata.org/osm-book-
 available-in-english
 
 Also available via amazon.com and shortly via amazon.co.uk

And does the Amazon (UK only) link here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Merchandise#Amazon
still generate 5% commission for the project, do you know?

Ed


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[OSM-talk] OSM book in English published

[Steve Chilton]

OpenStreetMap: Using, and Contributing to, the Free World Map (Paperback, in 
English) by Ramm/Topf/Chilton will be available in 5 days. Pre-order at 
discount http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781906860110/

OpenGeoData post about it: http://opengeodata.org/osm-book-available-in-english

Also available via amazon.com and shortly via amazon.co.uk

Cheers
STEVE

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[Talk-GB] Late bookings for Society of Cartographers conference

[Steve Chilton]

Late bookings are still being taken for the Society of Cartographers Annual 
conference next month

- LATE BOOKING FEE HAS BEEN WAIVED - save £25

Open to NON-MEMBERS, non-membership fee on Booking 
Formhttp://www.soc.org.uk/manchester10/assets/SoCBookingForm2010.pdf is 
OPTIONAL - save £30

BOOK NOW and save £55 as a late booking delegate.

The Society of Cartographers 2010 Summer 
Schoolhttp://www.soc.org.uk/manchester10 will be held at the University of 
Manchester - Weds 8th to Fri 10th September 2010.

Residential, Non-residential and Day Delegate places are still available. 
Limited Bursarieshttp://www.soc.org.uk/manchester10/bursaries.htm are on 
offer.

Visit the Summer School website at 
www.soc.org.uk/manchester10/http://www.soc.org.uk/manchester10/

THEMES:
OS OpenData
Crowdsourcing and Open Data
Transport Mapping
Maps and geopolitics
Art and everyday mapping
Mapping Manchester

Speakers include: Richard Fairhurst, Gary Gale, Andy Robinson, Ollie O'Brien, 
Bob Barr, Martin Dodge
There is space in the programme to show off your work in lightning talks.

To discuss, put a marker down for your application, or to book a lightning talk 
just contact me.

Cheers
STEVE

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Manager of e-Learning Academic Development
Centre for Educational Technology
Middlesex University
phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
email: ste...@mdx.ac.ukmailto:ste...@mdx.ac.uk
http://www.middlesex.wikispaces.net/user/view/steve8

Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/

Society of Cartographers conf: http://www.soc.org.uk/manchester10/

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Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin etrex Vista HCx issue

[Steve Chilton]

Yes (UK).
After talking to a couple of people I have sent it back to Amazon today.
Promisingly, the system has already issued a new item request and I have an 
email saying it has been despatched.
So hopefully all will be resolved.

STEVE


From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf 
Of Dave F. [dave...@madasafish.com]
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:03 PM
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin etrex Vista HCx issue

  On 22/08/2010 21:42, Steve Chilton wrote:
 My new week old Garmin etrex Vista HCx is causing me grief.
 The power on/off button has decided to not function at all.
 Am thinking I will have to go to Garmin to resolve it (it was purchased from 
 Amazon).

Can't help with the button, but I would just contact Amazon as it's
still under guarantee. Under the sales of goods act your contract is
with the retailer not the manufacturer when dealing with faulty goods.
You are UK based aren't you?

Dave F.

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[OSM-talk] Garmin etrex Vista HCx issue

[Steve Chilton]

My new week old Garmin etrex Vista HCx is causing me grief.
The power on/off button has decided to not function at all.
Am thinking I will have to go to Garmin to resolve it (it was purchased from 
Amazon).
Anyone had this issue with theirs?
Anyone with good (or bad) experiences of going to Garmin Europe with issues 
such as this?
Anyone with any advice to cheer me up basically?!!

Cheers
STEVE

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[OSM-talk] Bursaries available to Society of Cartographers conference

[Steve Chilton]

If you are a student or non-UK OSMer you might be interested in chance to gain 
a bursary to attend the Society of Cartographers conference next month (in the 
UK). Join the society (v small joining fee - get conf fees part paid). See 
message below:
---

Society of Cartographers
SUMMER SCHOOL BURSARIES

CLOSING DATE FOR APPLICATIONS NOW EXTENDED to 31st AUGUST 2010.
The Society of Cartographers offers TWO bursaries to allow HALF attendance at 
their Annual Summer School (Manchester 8-10 Sept) 
(http://www.soc.org.uk/manchester10/).
The bursary offer is open to student and overseas members only. Each bursary 
will cover HALF the Summer School attendance package and registration costs. 
Travel costs to and from the SoC Summer School will NOT be covered by the 
bursary.

The aim of the bursary is to give financial assistance to members who would 
otherwise be unable to attend due to lack of other financial support. 
Submissions will be reviewed by the Bursary Sub-committee and successful 
applicants will be notified by 2 September 2010.
Please complete the application form (available from 
http://www.soc.org.uk/assets/bursary.pdf) in full and post or e-mail a scanned 
copy to:

Mike Shand, Hon. Secretary, 
(mike.sh...@ges.gla.ac.ukmailto:mike.sh...@ges.gla.ac.uk)
Schoolof Geographical  Earth Sciences,
University of Glasgow,
Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K.

Contact me if you require further info

Cheers
STEVE

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[OSM-talk] Society of Cartographers conference

[Steve Chilton]

Going to SOTM10 and want more?
Or not going to SOTM and want some?

Details of the Society of Cartographers conference from 8-10 Sept at the 
University of Manchester are now available on the web:
http://www.soc.org.uk/manchester10/
The Friday sessions may well be of particular interest to OSMers, with several 
speakers and topics of direct relevance.
Check it out - day passes are available.

Cheers
STEVE

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Manager of e-Learning Academic Development
Centre for Educational Technology
Middlesex University
phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
email: ste...@mdx.ac.ukmailto:ste...@mdx.ac.uk
http://elearning.middlesex.wikispaces.net/Steve+Chilton

Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/

Annual Teaching  Learning conf: http://elearn.mdx.ac.uk/engaging/

Are your programme's undergraduate bridging materials ready for the Sept 2010 
start? To prepare, update or create, email 
eLearningmailto:elearn...@mdx.ac.uk?subject=bridging%20materials%20support%20 
for information about training and support available March-April 2010.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: Software goes on, brain goes off...

[Steve Chilton]

talking of annoying . has this thread not been to death?!

-Original Message- 
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of John Smith 
Sent: Wed 02/06/2010 15:16 
To: Anthony 
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; Nick Whitelegg 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: Software goes on, brain goes off...



On 3 June 2010 00:15, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
 They could always require people to log in.  Or require people to log 
in if
 they want to put up with the annoying terms and conditions only once.

This woman is claiming she wasn't warned the route might be bad, so to
ensure that people don't forget they agreed to view the warning only
once, everyone will be forced to view it every time regardless.

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Re: [Talk-GB] skobbler OSM bug backchannel

[Steve Chilton]

As a 'cool kid' - now that is a laugh! - I second the UK-Potlatch co-relation 
...
 
steve8

-Original Message- 
From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of Richard Fairhurst 
Sent: Fri 14/05/2010 18:58 
To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] skobbler OSM bug backchannel



Marcus Thielking wrote:
  It would be much appreciated if some of you could have a
  look at www.skobbler.co.uk/osmbugs and tell us what
  should be changed

Couple of thoughts:

It would be good if you were to open up your 'getbugs' API. Editors
could then talk directly to this.

If you were to add 'highlight=1' at the end of the Potlatch URL, I
could look at adding a little marker of some description. At present you
have to guess where the centre of the viewport is. (Other suggestions
for betetr visualisation welcome!)

+1 on RSS feeds.

  OpenStreetBugs has a plugin for JOSM (the most popular OSM editor)

I can tell you guys come from Germany. All the cool kids in Britain use
Potlatch. ;)

cheers
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Re: [Talk-GB] FW: [carto-soc] Maps on Radio 4

[Steve Chilton]

Should include two interviews with myself, predominantly on OpenStreetMap, but 
also on the future of mapping.
Trying to get the full schedule from the producer (supposed to be a series of 
10 short programmes) and confirmation it will be available via playback.
 
Cheers
STEVE

-Original Message- 
From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of Andy Robinson 
(blackadder-lists) 
Sent: Fri 19/03/2010 09:30 
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org 
Cc: 
Subject: [Talk-GB] FW: [carto-soc] Maps on Radio 4





-Original Message-
From: Nick Millea [mailto:nick.mil...@bodleian.ox.ac.uk]
Sent: 19 March 2010 9:13 AM
To: lis-m...@jiscmail.ac.uk; carto-...@lists.shef.ac.uk; 
maph...@geo.uu.nl
Subject: [carto-soc] Maps on Radio 4

Dear All,

Apologies for cross-posting.


Starting on Monday, 3.45pm for 15 miniutes every day for 2 weeks(?) ...
'On the map', presented by 'Map addict' author, Mike Parker
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rd8z5

Details of the first five programmes only are currently on the website
...

Mon 22nd - Map makers
Tue 23rd - Mapping the metropolis
Wed 24th - Motoring maps
Thu 25th - Social mapping
Fri 26th - The lie of the land

With best wishes,
Nick Millea

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Re: [Talk-GB] [carto-soc] Maps on Radio 4

[Steve Chilton]

Full list of programmes is (with key words), 3-45 to 4pm Radio 4 each day:
 
Mon 22nd - Map makers - OS
Tue 23rd - Mapping the metropolis - Manchester and A-Z London
Wed 24th - Motoring maps - road atlases and satnavs
Thu 25th - Social mapping - mashups and crowdsourcing
Fri 26th - The lie of the land - borders, stats, politics
Mon 29th - World View - territories, travel
Tu 30th - Off the map - military
Wed 31st - Whose map is it anyway - future of OS
Thu 1 Apr - Digital maps - OpenStreetMap and the future
Fri 2 Apr - Maps of the Mind - Archers, mental maps
 
Cheers
STEVE

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To: lis-m...@jiscmail.ac.uk; carto-...@lists.shef.ac.uk; 
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Cc: 
Subject: [carto-soc] Maps on Radio 4



Dear All,

Apologies for cross-posting.


Starting on Monday, 3.45pm for 15 miniutes every day for 2 weeks(?) ...
'On the map', presented by 'Map addict' author, Mike Parker
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rd8z5

Details of the first five programmes only are currently on the website
...

Mon 22nd - Map makers
Tue 23rd - Mapping the metropolis
Wed 24th - Motoring maps
Thu 25th - Social mapping
Fri 26th - The lie of the land

With best wishes,
Nick Millea

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Re: [OSM-talk] People in charge of the tiles used in haiti.openstreetmap.nl

[Steve Chilton]

Julio

 

Not 100% certain, but think it is Lennard - l...@xs4all.nl

 

Email him - he will know who if it is not him.

 

Cheers

STEVE

 

From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Julio Costa
Zambelli
Sent: 03 March 2010 14:42
To: h...@openstreetmap.org; OSM-talk
Subject: [OSM-talk] People in charge of the tiles used in
haiti.openstreetmap.nl

 

I am trying to contact the people that generated the tiles used in the
haiti.openstreetmap.nl site.

Please send me an email to julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl

Thank you.

Cheers,

Julio Costa
OpenStreetMap Chile
http://www.openstreetmap.cl/

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[Talk-GB] rendering locks

[Steve Chilton]

Have submitted mapnik patches to SVN to render locks but unfortunately there 
isn't a standard way of tagging that makes it easy to be comprehensive.
I have dealt with what I think are the two most logical options, which are:
 
two nodes with waterway=lock_gate at either end of a way tagged 
waterway=canal;lock=yes
 
and
 
single node with waterway=lock OR lock=yes (with lock-gates not mapped)
 
This seems to fit with http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lock
 
There are other variants in place (and I haven't look too hard).
For instance at Tardebigge 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.31229lon=-2.03814zoom=17layers=0B00FTF
there is  a variant to the east of Upper Gambolds bridge that has an extra node 
for the lock which will throw the submitted rendering.
 
Does anyone want to try to help me to get a simplified schema that will cover 
most options and allow sensible rendering?
Yes, I know there are variants like lock pounds, and multiple locks whose top 
gate is the bottom of the next, etc.
 
I could go round changing any instances I find that don't match the two options 
above but would like any interested parties' thoughts first off.
 
PS: deliberately not tried to render locks before because of inability to 
render icons (eg a traditional lock arrow) at the angle of the way they are on. 
So have used a round icon for the moment. Any thoughts on that welcome too.
 
Cheers
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[Talk-GB] rendering locks

[Steve Chilton]

Have submitted mapnik patches to SVN to render locks but unfortunately there 
isn't a standard way of tagging that makes it easy to be comprehensive.
I have dealt with what I think are the two most logical options, which are:
 
two nodes with waterway=lock_gate at either end of a way tagged 
waterway=canal;lock=yes
 
and
 
single node with waterway=lock OR lock=yes (with lock-gates not mapped)
 
This seems to fit with http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lock
 
There are other variants in place (and I haven't look too hard).
For instance at Tardebigge 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.31229lon=-2.03814zoom=17layers=0B00FTF
there is  a variant to the east of Upper Gambolds bridge that has an extra node 
for the lock which will throw the submitted rendering.
 
Does anyone want to try to help me to get a simplified schema that will cover 
most options and allow sensible rendering?
Yes, I know there are variants like lock pounds, and multiple locks whose top 
gate is the bottom of the next, etc.
 
I could go round changing any instances I find that don't match the two options 
above but would like any interested parties' thoughts first off.
 
PS: deliberately not tried to render locks before because of inability to 
render icons (eg a traditional lock arrow) at the angle of the way they are on. 
So have used a round icon for the moment. Any thoughts on that welcome too.
 
Cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

[Steve Chilton]

I have been very busy (and very put off) recently, so have not read EVERY 
posting on this topic but I would like to respond on the specific issue of an 
entry level editor.
I can understand where people are coming from (Steve C included), can 
understand where they might be going, but really don't like the road that is 
being travelled - viz language/tone/factions/points scoring etc.
And this next bit is directed specifically at Steve C:
Have you considered a different approach? Given that it is probably accepted 
that an entry level editor would be a good thing why not work towards it in a 
more positive way. It is quite possible that you are hearing from loads of 
people that Potlatch is a (considerable) barrier to entry to working on the 
data entry. I am not actually sure anyone has ever claimed that PL WAS the 
answer to this particular matter. I also would just say that for me and my way 
of working (and yes I know I have a particular level of knowledge that I 
already bring to bear so am not a good case study) Potlatch is a very 
comfortable editor to work with, and am pleased with the way it has been 
developed, and have confidence that PL2 will build on this.
It is evident that you have excellent networking abilities, credibility in the 
wider community, loads of energy, and (perhaps) an understanding of what is 
required. Why not ask these people you meet to help formulate a brief for said 
entry level system (even using the dreaded focus groups to do so). Why not then 
network with some folk who might be in a position to look at the brief and then 
approach someone (or more) to actually tackle the task, meanwhile acting as 
project manager to guide it through all the stages that will happen - concept, 
UI, testing, tweaking, etc (I am no project manager, so excuse ignorance here).
Come up with a good result and it will surely be adopted by the project. You 
will receive considerable kudos if you can help deliver that result, and we 
will have a better project for it, with hopefully more people data inputting 
also.
Think on it.
 
Cheers
STEVE
 

-Original Message- 
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of Michal Migurski 
Sent: Wed 24/02/2010 15:47 
To: Talk Openstreetmap 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and 
back



On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:21 AM, SteveC wrote:

 You believe that feedback is a good thing, but, it seems, only if the
 feedback confirms your own ideas. You have railed against the UI,
 against hard-working volunteer contributors and against anyone who
 disagrees with you, who's left?

 Oh that's easy - the vast majority of people out there who use the 
 site every day.

Steve, you keep saying some variation of this, but at some point 
you're going to need to Show Us The Newbies. These disembodied, 
confused masses have to be given their own voice, because I don't 
think that the way you invoke their opinions here is particularly 
credible. You're summarizing their opinions when I think a much more 
effective way to make your point might be to come back with specific 
things about the site they found confusing, and what they were trying 
to do when they got confused, and *whether people who try to do those 
things are the audience that OpenStreetMap is built to serve*.

If you don't do this, it will continue to seem like you're 
paraphrasing phantom newbies to support what's basically a turf war 
here on the list.


 And I don't think I particularly railed against the volunteers, it's 
 almost exclusively about the crappy UI. And it is crappy. I don't 
 know why everyone has such a hard time admitting that, the sooner we 
 do, the sooner we can fix it.

You're definitely railing against volunteers. I don't get involved on 
this list much, but I read it when I can and I've honestly been 
shocked at your combative and frankly rude tone. Fix it, get help, 
whatever, but do it soon.


On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:41 AM, SteveC wrote:

 So, note everyone, Andy agrees but we just disagree on the 
 implementation. I think we need a step change as PL1 has been 
 sitting around for multiple years, things like a freeze to make sure 
 it happens. Andy believes the softly softly approach.


PL1 has visibly improved in the years that I've been using it. It's 
got problems, sure, but the plain dumb fact of the matter is that 
editing vectors and tending metadata is a *complicated and difficult 
interface problem*. Adobe Illustrator has a similar basic feature set 
to what a general purpose OSM editor 

[OSM-talk] Way out west

[Steve Chilton]

Could someone who knows the area have a look at this problem in Mass, USA (Just 
N of Worcester).
http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnikmt1=googlehybridlon=-71.90686lat=42.34427zoom=14
The wet and dry bits seem to be inverted.
Kendall and Pine Hill reservoirs are dry (white), whilst the water has escaped 
and flooded the surrounding hills.
 
Cheers
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[Talk-GB] UK tube/rail/canal outputs updated

[Steve Chilton]

I have updated, with todays data from geofabrik, the OSM renders for:
 
London Tube (moved servers) http://is.gd/7qIA5 
UK Railways http://is.gd/7qINv and 
UK Canals http://is.gd/7qIFd
 
You may find them useful for checking these features in your area
 
PS: am aware of the Thames not showing up on Tube map, am looking into it.
 
Cheers
STEVE

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Re: [Talk-GB] UK tube/rail/canal outputs updated

[Steve Chilton]

Dave
 
Have to think on that one.
It was deliberately done without full detail to highlight main features.
I will look at adding z12 and possibly z13 but that is a lot of tiles/server 
space.
Possibly just the road pattern with bridges and tunnels highlighted.
Certainly thinking of adding locks in on canal version sometime (as check 
mechanism).
 
Cheers
STEVE

-Original Message- 
From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] 
Sent: Sun 31/01/2010 21:47 
To: Steve Chilton 
Cc: talk-GB@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] UK tube/rail/canal outputs updated



Steve Chilton wrote:
 I have updated, with todays data from geofabrik, the OSM renders for:
 
 London Tube (moved servers) http://is.gd/7qIA5
 UK Railways http://is.gd/7qINv and
 UK Canals http://is.gd/7qIFd
 
 You may find them useful for checking these features in your area
 
 PS: am aware of the Thames not showing up on Tube map, am looking 
into it.
Thanks for those. Is it possible to get the the rail  canals to zoom to
the same as the tube? (level 15).

It's hard to check out details like tunnels  bridges.

Cheers
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Re: [Talk-GB] OS DG Vanessa Lawrence on the Future of mapping

[Steve Chilton]

Pub for afters is the Abbey in Orchard St, SW1P 2LU

Meet there at 7-30pm

Cryptic PS: Don't be deceived by the exterior

 

Hope to see some of you there, even if you can't make the lecture (RICS
6pm).

Welcome to let me know if you expect to make it.

 

Cheers

STEVE

 

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Manager of e-Learning Academic Development
Centre for Educational Technology
Middlesex University
phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk
http://www.mdx.ac.uk/aboutus/elearning/chiltons.asp

Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/

SoC conference 2009:
http://www.soc.org.uk/southampton09/ 

  _  

From: Emilie Laffray [mailto:emilie.laff...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 21 January 2010 13:53
To: Steve Chilton
Cc: SteveC; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS DG Vanessa Lawrence on the Future of mapping

 

 

2010/1/21 Steve Chilton s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk

I am definitely going.
Anyone else?
Beer-up afterwards?
I will investigate a possible pub.


Hello,

I might come depending on whether I can leave work early or not.

Emilie Laffray

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[OSM-talk] Replacing Google with OSM

[Steve Chilton]

A little while ago I saw a note somewhere about some neat code to
replace Google maps with OSM in a web application.
I know a website that is using Google maps (with clickable location pins
in place) that I would like to suggest uses OSM as it's base layer. They
are probably OK to use the code that was suggested to change their
site's map, but not to switch to Openlayers and redo the overlays (if
you get my drift).

Can someone point me to a link or mail thread please?

Cheers
STEVE

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Manager of e-Learning Academic Development
Centre for Educational Technology
Middlesex University
phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk
http://www.mdx.ac.uk/aboutus/elearning/chiltons.asp

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector now world-wide and with additional views

[Steve Chilton]

Frederik

Big thanks from me for the update.
Particularly for adding Places.
Can you pass my personal thanks to Jochen?
He shared draft with me (was my original request) and I was just too sloppy to 
have responded to him personally on it.

Cheers
STEVE

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http://www.soc.org.uk/southampton09/
-Original Message-
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On 
Behalf Of Frederik Ramm
Sent: 01 December 2009 14:06
To: Talk Openstreetmap
Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector now world-wide and with additional views

Hi,

the Geofabrik OSM Inspector (tools.geofabrik.de/osmi), a debugging 
tool, now supports worldwide daily data (previously Europe only) for the 
important views, as well as several other new features.

If you are interested, there's more about it on: 
http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=27

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2

[Steve Chilton]

Richard
 
Let me not be the last to say:
Thanks for all the development time you have commited to Potlatch.
I have long enjoyed using it for editing and am sure P2 will aid my 
productivity.
I marvel sometimes at your time commitment to this and other OSM-related work.
So a huge big up to you (and Dave too for his tweaking work) .
 
Cheers
STEVE
 
-Original Message- 
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of Richard Fairhurst 
Sent: Mon 30/11/2009 23:18 
To: talk@openstreetmap.org 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2




Thanks everyone for the kind comments! Really appreciated (and I should
reiterate that loads of the clever stuff is Dave's work rather than 
mine).


Marjan Vrban wrote:
 Great news for Potlatch users, i would suggest that you implement 
icons
 for POI-s (At least for most used). So that we could recoginze those
 green dots what they represent without clicking them.

Yep, definitely. Adding icons is just a matter of one line in the 
stylesheet
and adding a .png, and I hope we'll have a comprehensive stylesheet for 
the
first release.


Richard Mann wrote:
 Dare I ask whether Halcyon can do offset lines (so we can start to
 do one-way, bike lanes  bus lanes with different casings)?

It can't - yet... but there's no reason why it couldn't be added (and in
fact it ties in quite well with a change I'm looking at currently). Will
take a look.


Michal Migurski wrote:
 The Halcyon rendering looks great. Do you have a preferred avenue
 for bug reports? Is the code in a place where it can be easily picked 
at?

Bug reports are best via trac.openstreetmap.org, lodged as 'potlatch 
(flash
editor)' with [potlatch2] or somesuch in the subject.

Code is all at
   http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/potlatch2/
and, in particular, the Halcyon rendering code is
 

http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/potlatch2/net/systemeD/halcyon/

cheers
Richard
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[OSM-talk] OSMers in Santiago?

[Steve Chilton]

Anyone reading this mapping in Chile?
I will be in Santiago from Sun 15th - Sat 22nd Nov, attending the International 
Cartographic Association conf, and giving a paper entitled Crowdsourcing is 
changing the geodata landscape.
http://cartography.tuwien.ac.at/ica/
I know that Santiago is mapped in really good detail, but there is always more 
that can be added.
If any English speaking folk are in or around Santiago I would love to hear 
from them or arrange to meet and shoot the OSM breeze, or even do some 
micro-mapping.
[please feel free to pass on to anyone appropriate. I could see no national 
Chilean mailing list]
 
Cheers
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[Talk-GB] More OS 7th series sheets available

[Steve Chilton]

More o-o-c OS 7th series sheets are now available. Thanks to those who have 
been working on the rectifications. More to follow.
http://old-dev.openstreetmap.org/~steve8/os7.htm
 
Cheers
STEVE

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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Rights of Way overlaid on First Edition maps

[Steve Chilton]

Nick
 
Couldn't reply on blog as no Wordpress account.
You should definately try using green for overlay.
The 1st Edition has loads of detail in red, which detracts from the effect.
Looks promising though.
 
Cheers
STEVE

-Original Message- 
From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of Nick Whitelegg 
Sent: Wed 21/10/2009 10:27 
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org 
Cc: 
Subject: [Talk-GB] OSM Rights of Way overlaid on First Edition maps



Hello everyone,

Tried this out last night, overlaying rights of way from OSM onto the
First Edition tiles. The results look fairly decent - you can see it at

http://www.free-map.org.uk/firsted/

The default location is probably the best.

More details in the Freemap blog at:

http://www.free-map.org.uk/wordpress/?p=16

Nick

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[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey 7th series available

[Steve Chilton]

I am pleased to announce that the first of the OS 7th series out-of-copyright 
maps are available for use in OSM.
Very brief details of the sheets and how to access them is available on the 
wiki at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/7th_Series
Thanks to TimSC for rectification work and setting up for WMS for JOSM, and to 
Richard for the Potlatch link.
Those available are just the first of the 23 that are out-of-copyright right 
now, mainly in Scotland. More shortly.
This is an ongoing project, and more sheets will be available to use a) as they 
come out of copyright, and b) are rectified and tiled.
Any problems please contact me.
 
Cheers
STEVE

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Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey 7th series available

[Steve Chilton]

If you can quantify any displacement it would be useful. We intend to try to 
check this and see if any improvements can be made to the process.
 
Cheers
STEVE

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Sent: Tue 06/10/2009 21:36 
To: Frankie Roberto 
Cc: Steve Chilton; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org 
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[OSM-talk] Nokia N97

[Steve Chilton]

Friend is thinking of getting Nokia N97
Can it save GPS tracks for OSM uploading?
Can you use OSM maps on it in any way?
No info on N97 on OSM wiki.
 
Cheers
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[OSM-talk] Revert to avoid boundary dispute

[Steve Chilton]

I think I have just screwed up the Eng/Wales border relation around Presteign 
where I have tried to make part of it be tagged as a river as well as admin 
boundary - by splitting the boundary twice to add a tag:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.2641lon=-2.9896zoom=14
I am not familiar with changesets/reverts etc.
Could someone kindly have a look and see if they can help revert it please? And 
let me know.
I have stopped editing there for moment.
 
Cheers
STEVE

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[OSM-talk] edit to vimeo file front page

[Steve Chilton]

Could someone please correct the front page on the vimeo file for James 
Rutter's Surrey Heath SOTM09 presentation:
http://www.vimeo.com/6051589
I want to link to it and don't want people put off by it seeming to be wrong.
Appreciate it, and a note when done please.
 
Cheers
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[OSM-talk] mapnik rendering

[Steve Chilton]

I don't know whether I have missed something, or else am just lucky, but mapnik 
is rendering the things I am editing super-fast. Two new and different renders 
of an area in about 30 minutes.
 
STEVE

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Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik rendering

[Steve Chilton]

Well thanks for those responsible for the change - it is certainly appreciated.
And thanks to Lennard for putting the case for the defence!
So impressed, I am going to edit some more 
 
Cheers
STEVE

-Original Message- 
From: Lennard [mailto:l...@xs4all.nl] 
Sent: Thu 10/09/2009 22:45 
To: Shaun McDonald 
Cc: Richard Weait; talk@openstreetmap.org; Steve Chilton 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik rendering



Shaun McDonald wrote:

 It's really old news, that tile.openstreetmap.org is using the 
 minutely diffs.

But Steve was out at a conference when we switched over to the new tile
server. Which is fast enough that it doesn't drop any render requests
any more.

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Re: [OSM-talk] creating shapefile of postcodes

[Steve Chilton]

James
 
Sorry to hear that.
Thanks for the warning.
Speak sometime.
 
STEVE

-Original Message- 
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of maning sambale 
Sent: Tue 08/09/2009 10:26 
To: osm-talk 
Cc: 
Subject: [OSM-talk] creating shapefile of postcodes



I wanted to create a similar shapefile like this
(http://old-dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/postcodes/) for my area.
The first step is to extract postcodes in OSM.
The problem there several postcode variations in the database

addr:postcode
postal_code
is_in:zip

Some are in node (POIs) others in ways (building).  Any advise on
extracting this data as input to makeShapeColoured.py?



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Re: [Talk-GB] Chester Zoo: feedback requested

[Steve Chilton]

Frankie
 
Not familiar at all, so observations of the map suggest:
 
Is there really a bridleway right through the middle? Doesn't that play havock 
with the paying to get in?
 
Tagging of 2 islands needs looking at: Lemur Island and one in Flamingo Lake
 
Are there really three things called Lemur Island?
 
You could experiment with using barrier=fence. I presume the collected Monkey 
bits have a fence round them?
 
Chhers
STEVE

-Original Message- 
From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of Frankie Roberto 
Sent: Thu 03/09/2009 20:42 
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org 
Cc: 
Subject: [Talk-GB] Chester Zoo: feedback requested


Hi all,

I visited Chester Zoo a few weeks back, took my GPS, and spent an 
exhausting few hours walking along every path (as well as looking at a few of 
the animals).

Using a combination of the GPS traces and the Yahoo satellite 
photography, I've tried to add as much detail to the map as possible: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.2258lon=-2.88111zoom=17

It's not 'complete', but I think I've done as much as I can without 
returning to do some more detailed surveying.

Would appreciate any feedback (on the tagging or the geometry). There's 
some interesting use of tags, including animal=* (which was discussed on the 
main mailing list a few months back, but which I don't think has even been 
formally proposed), as well as natural=mud for the elephant enclosure (it's not 
natural, but it's definitely muddy), and a mixture of islands, navigable and 
non-navigable canals.

I have a contact who works at the zoo, so I'm aiming to get the map as 
complete as possible, and then to send them a colour print of it as a gift.

So, any help would be gratefully received!

Frankie

P.S The zoo is a great place to visit, if anyone fancies a day out... 
Don't miss the baby giraffe!

-- 
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[Talk-GB] Yahoo coverage map

[Steve Chilton]

I have just corrected an error on the display of the Map of Yahoo coverage in 
UK.
http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~steve8/yahoo.html
Thanks to Edgemaster for the advice.
If anyone knows of any new areas that have Y! coverage please let me know so I 
can update that layer.
 
Cheers
STEVE

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[Talk-GB] Reduced rates for Society of Cartographers conf

[Steve Chilton]

SOCIETY OF CARTOGRAPHERS ANNUAL SUMMER SCHOOL

A unique opportunity to hear the DG of the Ordnance Survey, to hear about 
UKMap, to see how crowdsourcing is affecting cartography, and/or to participate 
in an OpenLayers workshop - making this an excellent value networking 
opportunity 

The Society of Cartographers (SoC) are offering 7 (SEVEN) bursaries valued at 
£20 each on a first-come first-served basis for DAY VISITORS to its Annual 
Summer School to be held at the University of Southampton, 7-9 September.  Full 
details of programme etc can be found at:  
http://www.soc.org.uk/southampton09/index.htm.  The offer is open to 
non-members of the SoC.

TO APPLY please contact Local Organiser direct by e-mail, Alex Kent 
(a.j.k...@soton.ac.uk)

 

Cheers

STEVE


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[OSM-talk] Mount Obama mapped

[Steve Chilton]

Antigua and Barbuda today renames Boggy Peak to Mount Obama
http://snurl.com/onw6v
So the OSM map shows it on change day http://snurl.com/onw8t

Easy comparison target: Google has Boggy Peak (as was) in wrong place
http://snurl.com/onw8t
See also Bolans (spelt wrong), Jennings and Ebenezer well out of place,
and the road nr Old Road settlement taking completely fictitious line in
a couple of places.

And don't get me started on Yahoo maps http://snurl.com/onws5
Use transparency slider and zoom tools for full effect. Check SE of
Island which appears to have no roads in it at all and the road detail
in the north of the island.

Cheers
STEVE

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Manager of e-Learning Academic Development
Centre for Educational Technology
Middlesex University
phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk
http://www.mdx.ac.uk/study/elearning/chiltons.asp

Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/

SoC conference 2009:
http://www.soc.org.uk/southampton09/


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[OSM-talk] Mount Obama (revisited)

[Steve Chilton]

It would seem that snurl.com short URLs are not copy-and-pasteable -
well not from a tweet.
So if interested here is the message with long URLs (thanks to those
that pointed it out to me).
--

Antigua and Barbuda today renames Boggy Peak to Mount Obama
http://repeatingislands.com/2009/05/31/boggy-peak-to-become-mount-obama-
on-august-4th/
So the OSM map shows it on change day
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.0396

Easy comparison target: Google has Boggy Peak (as was) in wrong place
http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=13lat=17.05235lon=-61.86419layers=000B00
TF
See also Bolans (spelt wrong), Jennings and Ebenezer well out of place,
and the road nr Old Road settlement taking completely fictitious line in
a couple of places.

And don't get me started on Yahoo maps
http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=13lat=17.08304lon=-61.80496layers=B0
TF
Use transparency slider and zoom tools for full effect. Check SE of
Island which appears to have no roads in it at all and the road detail
in the north of the island.

Cheers
STEVE

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Manager of e-Learning Academic Development
Centre for Educational Technology
Middlesex University
phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk
http://www.mdx.ac.uk/study/elearning/chiltons.asp

Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/

SoC conference 2009:
http://www.soc.org.uk/southampton09/



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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

[Steve Chilton]

One in 3, 5, 3 metre:
 
GPS
Some software magic
Mapnik maps
 
Cheers
STEVE

-Original Message- 
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of Iván Sánchez Ortega 
Sent: Wed 01/07/2009 17:48 
To: talk@openstreetmap.org 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry 
Competition!!



El Miércoles, 1 de Julio de 2009, Mike Collinson escribió:
 Last year we had some great Limerick poems for the Limerick State Of 
the
 Map Conference. This year, the format is the Haiku.

Maps maps
maps maps maps maps
maps!

--
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Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

Un ordenador no es un televisor ni un microondas, es una herramienta 
compleja.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

[Steve Chilton]

My entry, using 5-7-5 metre and traditional kigo (seasonal reference):
 
Morning time, birds tweet
In Amsterdam I will too
Using @steev8
 
Cheers
STEVE

-Original Message- 
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of Iván Sánchez Ortega 
Sent: Fri 03/07/2009 11:21 
To: talk@openstreetmap.org 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry 
Competition!!



El Viernes, 3 de Julio de 2009, Maarten Deen escribió:
 Lovely maps, wonderful maps
 Maps-and-maps-and-maps-and-maps
 Lovely maps, wonderful maps
 Ma-a-a-aps Ma-a-a-a-ps Ma-a-a-a-ps MA-A-A-A-APS!!!

Maps
Bacon and maps
Maps, maps, eggs, bacon and maps


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El que vive no debe luchar con los muertos.- Torcuato Tasso.


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[OSM-talk] Society of Cartographers programme/booking

[Steve Chilton]

Booking is now open for the Society of Cartographers Summer School at the 
University of Southampton from 7-9th Sept 2009.
 
If you want to:
- hear the Director General of the OS talking about the future of the National 
Mapping Agency
- hear about the new UKMap large scale map database
- take part in a workshop on Google mashing, OS OpenSpace and Geovation, or 
OpenLayers
- keep up to date on crowdsourcing geodata
- see how people are using OpenStreetMap data in the real world
- hear the latest ideas on emergency mapping, transport mapping, 3d mapping and 
wayfinding
- network with your peers and leaders in developments in cartography
 
then check out the programme at:
http://www.soc.org.uk/southampton09/program.htm
and register at:
http://www.soc.org.uk/southampton09/index.htm
 
 
Cheers
STEVE

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: General inquiry: hand drawn maps

[Steve Chilton]

Dan and Kris

The repository I can think off is mentioned in the original email below.

Other individuals that immediately spring to mind are:

Alfred Wainwright: http://www.wainwright.org.uk/
I can provide more details, as I have done quite a bit of research on his 
mapping. For instance he illustrated Richard Adams' Plague Dogs in first 
edition, and several other books. He was one of a small band of autograph 
book producers (cf Blake, Carroll, Lear - who may well have included maps).

Mark Richards: http://www.markrichards.info/
whose early guide books certainly included his hand-drawn maps (after the style 
of Wainright, who was a sort of mentor), but latterly I don't think have been

Christopher Tolkein: http://www.tolkienmaps.com/tolkienmapsstory.html
according to link above produced the original maps for his father's books

Stephen Raw: http://www.tolkienmaps.com/stephenraw.html
Part by hand, part by computer, redoing work of Christopher Tolkein

Kris: I suggest you re-post your enquiry to carto-soc and see if you pick up 
any more responses: http://www.soc.org.uk/cartosoc.htm

Cheers
STEVE
SoC Chair


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From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On 
Behalf Of Dan Karran
Sent: 11 June 2009 22:00
To: Talk Openstreetmap
Cc: k.harzin...@gmail.com
Subject: [OSM-talk] Fwd: General inquiry: hand drawn maps

Does anyone in the community have some good hand-drawn maps that they
would like to share for possible inclusion in an upcoming book? I have
vague recollections of a repository of these sorts of maps a while
back, but I don't remember the details.

I've shared a few sketches but none of them are particularly readable,
so I'm sure there must be better examples out there  :)


Cheers,
Dan

 Original Message 
Subject:        General inquiry: hand drawn maps
Date:   Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:53:49 -0400
From:   Kris Harzinski k.harzin...@gmail.com
To:     map...@listserv.uga.edu
CC:     Kris Harzinski k.harzin...@gmail.com



I'm currently working on a book of maps that will be published by Princeton
Architectural Press and would greatly appreciate any help you can provide.

The book is based on my web project, the Hand Drawn Map Association, and
focuses on maps that people draw for one another to provide directions or
tell a story. Most of the maps in the collection are by non-professionals,
but I'm interested in framing the book in the larger context of the human
desire to record the world around us. To that end, I'm looking for some
historical or contemporary maps that are specifically sketched or drawn by
hand - not necessarily well executed manuscript maps - but maps that are
more crude, rough, gestural, etc. I'm specifically interested in maps that
are drawn by well known individuals.

Again, I would greatly appreciate any help you can provide.

Thanks,

Kris Harzinski

Hand Drawn Map Association
http://www.handmaps.org
i...@handmaps.org



-- 
Dan Karran
d...@karran.net
www.dankarran.com

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] Isle of Wight 2

[Steve Chilton]

Steve

I would be very interested.
Would you consider pitching at somewhere less mapped.
Parts of Devon/Cornwall spring to mind.

Cheers
STEVEs

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of SteveC
Sent: 30 May 2009 15:54
To: Talk GB; Talk Openstreetmap
Subject: [Talk-GB] Isle of Wight 2

Remember how awesome the wales mapping weekend was last year?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welsh_Mapping_Party_Weekend

Remember the Isle of Wight mapping weekend 3 years ago? It was super  
awesome, we had 30 odd people, local TV, press and stuff

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Isle_of_Wight_workshop_2006


How about a weekend again and rent a cottage in the Isle of Wight?  
This time concentrating on maintenance of the map, detecting new  
changes and augmenting it with more PoIs and things like addressing?

I can organise it all if there is a show of hands for people who'd come.

Best

Steve


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