Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Vincent Bergeot]

Le 04/06/2018 à 11:06, Marc Gemis a écrit :

And of course you can use one of the mapcontrib "apps", e.g.
https://www.mapcontrib.xyz/t/8a9a5d-Eau_potable (or make your own)


currently, you cannot use mapcontrib offline, as requested.

Thanks for sharing it though!

regards !





regards

m

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Marc Gemis  wrote:

The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps:
[1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bplaced.tapwater
[2] http://wetap.org/

I've never tried them.

m.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Mateusz Konieczny
 wrote:

I am looking for an application for Android displaying
amenity=drinking_water
locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to avoid
buying plastic bottles
just to almost immediately throw it out.

Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects
would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.

I know that there is a search function in MAPS.ME allowing to find drinking
water,
I am currently using it but this app has long startup time and search is
really
slow for some reason (even for cases that should be easy to index).

I found https://github.com/icechen1/TakeABreak/blob/master/README.md -
but it is not displaying any locations and Google maps used as a map display
and
on top of that licence seems to be missing so it is useless as a base for
anything.

There is a great "OSM peak finder" app,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.wuwer.osmpeakfinder=en_GB
- but source code is not available.

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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Carlos Cámara]

Hello,

Some people have already said to use Osmand+ but I would like to point out
a not-so-evident feature that may be of your interest: you can configure
the maps as to display Overlay POIs, which means that they will appear
highlighted and can be clicked on them to get all their tags. Usually, you
can choose from a predefined POIs list, like Accommodation, Parking, Shops,
restaurants... Despite drinking water is not on the list you can use the
search option and type that tag. By doing so all drinking waters will
become highlighted without having to query online services (it reads from
already downloaded data).

Hope this helps.

Carlos Cámara
http://carloscamara.es

2018-06-05 7:29 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny :

>
> 4. Jun 2018 11:04 by marc.ge...@gmail.com:
>
> The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps:
> [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bplaced.tapwater
>
>
> From what I see OSM attribution is completely missing, I am tempted to
>
> remove it from listing on OSM Wiki for this reason.
>
>
>
>
> [2] http://wetap.org
>
>
> iPhone app only
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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[_ dikkeknodel]

In Switzerland there are so many natural sources around, that you barely have 
to bring a bottle and can just take a sip of every source you pass. Typically 
these natural sources are guided via piping so you can easily use the water, 
http://sehenswertes.ch/Sehenswertes/schweiz/Doerfer/Schornen/Brunnen/Bildergalerie/SDC14131.JPG.

If you take a radius of 10 km around Zürich city center, there are 1044 
drinking water points available .
http://ausleuchtung.ch/travel_pack/?lat=47.372454125432945=8.542385101318361=14=10=amenity=drinking_water=0
My prefered method of finding them ‘in the field’ on Android is OSMand, which I 
typically have running whenever I hike or cycle anyway. With the POI search 
‘drinking’ you can display the drinking water POIs on the map to see which one 
is nearest or most convenient for your direction of travel.

When I plan routes in advance I use https://www.komoot.com, which lets you 
display the drinking water POIs and use them as routing points easily.

The amount of drinking water PIO on the map of your area off course depends on 
several factors like (1) availability of natural sources, (2) local culture 
making them readily accessible and (3) OSM contributors focus for putting them 
in the OSM database. Here in Switzerland all of these factors are strong, 
although I find a water point every now and then which is not on the map yet.

Cheers,
dikkeknodel


Van: Warin<mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>
Verzonden: maandag 4 juni 2018 11:43
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Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

On 04/06/18 18:51, Maarten Deen wrote:
> Less than a second to something usable? Sure, it displays the O logo
> within a second, but on my phone (quad core 1.3 GHz ARM Cortex A7) it
> takes about 10 seconds to get to anything usable.
+1 .. probably 30 seconds on my old phone with a map of some 200M.
>
> And about the OSM quality... There is one drinking water POI mapped
> near to me, but I hardly think that's an official public tap. I rather
> suspect that's someone's home garden tap.
> Well, it would do the job I guess ;)
That is not quality but a lack of information.

Around me public bubblers are found in most public playgrounds, some
parks (50%?), some public squares (40%?).

Very much depends on the local climate .. if you can open your mouth and
get a drink there is not much point in providing another water source :)

>
> Maarten
>
> On 2018-06-04 10:29, Philip Barnes wrote:
>> OSMand starts for me in less than a second, however the nearest
>> drinking water is 150 miles away. Not many mapped and actually
>> struggling to think where I would find one.
>>
>> Phil (trigpoint)
>>
>> On 3 June 2018 19:29:24 BST, Maarten Deen  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> 3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking for an application for Android displaying
>>> amenity=drinking_water
>>>
>>> locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to
>>> avoid buying plastic bottles
>>>
>>> just to almost immediately throw it out.
>>>
>>> Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects
>>>
>>> would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.
>>>
>>> Osmand displays and can find drinking water.
>>>
>>> In my experience OSMand starts for a long time, like maps.me [1]. Is
>>> at least search
>>> not taking any noticeable time?
>>
>> Startup of OSMand takes quite some time yes, it annoys me too.
>> Searching
>> in the datafile of the Netherlands, some 850 MB, also takes a few
>> seconds. It is certainly not instant and if your impatient it can be a
>>
>> bother.
>> But it does not take minutes.
>>
>> Maarten
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Warin]

On 04/06/18 18:51, Maarten Deen wrote:
Less than a second to something usable? Sure, it displays the O logo 
within a second, but on my phone (quad core 1.3 GHz ARM Cortex A7) it 
takes about 10 seconds to get to anything usable.

+1 .. probably 30 seconds on my old phone with a map of some 200M.


And about the OSM quality... There is one drinking water POI mapped 
near to me, but I hardly think that's an official public tap. I rather 
suspect that's someone's home garden tap.

Well, it would do the job I guess ;)

That is not quality but a lack of information.

Around me public bubblers are found in most public playgrounds, some 
parks (50%?), some public squares (40%?).


Very much depends on the local climate .. if you can open your mouth and 
get a drink there is not much point in providing another water source :)




Maarten

On 2018-06-04 10:29, Philip Barnes wrote:

OSMand starts for me in less than a second, however the nearest
drinking water is 150 miles away. Not many mapped and actually
struggling to think where I would find one.

Phil (trigpoint)

On 3 June 2018 19:29:24 BST, Maarten Deen  wrote:


On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
 wrote:

3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org:

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
 wrote:

I am looking for an application for Android displaying
amenity=drinking_water

locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to
avoid buying plastic bottles

just to almost immediately throw it out.

Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects

would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.

Osmand displays and can find drinking water.

In my experience OSMand starts for a long time, like maps.me [1]. Is
at least search
not taking any noticeable time?


Startup of OSMand takes quite some time yes, it annoys me too.
Searching
in the datafile of the Netherlands, some 850 MB, also takes a few
seconds. It is certainly not instant and if your impatient it can be a

bother.
But it does not take minutes.

Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch]

  

  
  

I wrote a web application http://ausleuchtung.ch/travel_pack/ where one 
can select amenity=drinking_water from a drop-down list with icons, then
 click on the OSM map and the found drinking water will be show with the
 geo-markers also with the icon 10 km (or less) around the click.
You can also click on the geo-markers to see the complete info and view 
the images from the Wikimedia 500 meters around the geo-marker.
I usually use this web application well before a travel to see the info 
on the big 4K computer screen. And later, on the ground, I use a mobile app, 
already knowing what to expect.
Best regards,
O.
  
  On 03.06.18 17:54, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:


  
  
I am looking for an application for Android displaying
amenity=drinking_water 
  
  
locations with available offline map - I am frequently using
it to avoid buying plastic bottles 
  
  
just to almost immediately throw it out.
  
  
  
  
Any simple open source map displaying locations of some
objects 
  
  
would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.
  
  
  
  
I know that there is a search function in MAPS.ME allowing to
find drinking water, 
  
  
I am currently using it but this app has long startup time
and search is really 
  
  
slow for some reason (even for cases that should be easy to
index).
  
  
  
  
I found https://github.com/icechen1/TakeABreak/blob/master/README.md
- 
  
  
but it is not displaying any locations and Google maps used
as a map display and 
  
  
on top of that licence seems to be missing so it is useless
as a base for anything.
  
  
  
  
There is a great "OSM peak finder" app, 
  
  
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.wuwer.osmpeakfinder=en_GB
  
  
 - but source code is not available.
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Marc Gemis]

And of course you can use one of the mapcontrib "apps", e.g.
https://www.mapcontrib.xyz/t/8a9a5d-Eau_potable (or make your own)

regards

m

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Marc Gemis  wrote:
> The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps:
> [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bplaced.tapwater
> [2] http://wetap.org/
>
> I've never tried them.
>
> m.
>
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Mateusz Konieczny
>  wrote:
>> I am looking for an application for Android displaying
>> amenity=drinking_water
>> locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to avoid
>> buying plastic bottles
>> just to almost immediately throw it out.
>>
>> Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects
>> would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.
>>
>> I know that there is a search function in MAPS.ME allowing to find drinking
>> water,
>> I am currently using it but this app has long startup time and search is
>> really
>> slow for some reason (even for cases that should be easy to index).
>>
>> I found https://github.com/icechen1/TakeABreak/blob/master/README.md -
>> but it is not displaying any locations and Google maps used as a map display
>> and
>> on top of that licence seems to be missing so it is useless as a base for
>> anything.
>>
>> There is a great "OSM peak finder" app,
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.wuwer.osmpeakfinder=en_GB
>> - but source code is not available.
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Marc Gemis]

The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps:
[1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bplaced.tapwater
[2] http://wetap.org/

I've never tried them.

m.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Mateusz Konieczny
 wrote:
> I am looking for an application for Android displaying
> amenity=drinking_water
> locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to avoid
> buying plastic bottles
> just to almost immediately throw it out.
>
> Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects
> would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.
>
> I know that there is a search function in MAPS.ME allowing to find drinking
> water,
> I am currently using it but this app has long startup time and search is
> really
> slow for some reason (even for cases that should be easy to index).
>
> I found https://github.com/icechen1/TakeABreak/blob/master/README.md -
> but it is not displaying any locations and Google maps used as a map display
> and
> on top of that licence seems to be missing so it is useless as a base for
> anything.
>
> There is a great "OSM peak finder" app,
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.wuwer.osmpeakfinder=en_GB
> - but source code is not available.
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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Maarten Deen]

Less than a second to something usable? Sure, it displays the O logo 
within a second, but on my phone (quad core 1.3 GHz ARM Cortex A7) it 
takes about 10 seconds to get to anything usable.


And about the OSM quality... There is one drinking water POI mapped near 
to me, but I hardly think that's an official public tap. I rather 
suspect that's someone's home garden tap.

Well, it would do the job I guess ;)

Maarten

On 2018-06-04 10:29, Philip Barnes wrote:

OSMand starts for me in less than a second, however the nearest
drinking water is 150 miles away. Not many mapped and actually
struggling to think where I would find one.

Phil (trigpoint)

On 3 June 2018 19:29:24 BST, Maarten Deen  wrote:


On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
 wrote:

3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org:

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
 wrote:

I am looking for an application for Android displaying
amenity=drinking_water

locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to
avoid buying plastic bottles

just to almost immediately throw it out.

Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects

would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.

Osmand displays and can find drinking water.

In my experience OSMand starts for a long time, like maps.me [1]. Is
at least search
not taking any noticeable time?


Startup of OSMand takes quite some time yes, it annoys me too.
Searching
in the datafile of the Netherlands, some 850 MB, also takes a few
seconds. It is certainly not instant and if your impatient it can be a

bother.
But it does not take minutes.

Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Philip Barnes]

OSMand starts for me in less than a second, however the nearest drinking water 
is 150 miles away. Not many mapped and actually struggling to think where I 
would find one.

Phil (trigpoint) 

On 3 June 2018 19:29:24 BST, Maarten Deen  wrote:
>On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
> wrote:
>> 
>>> 3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org:
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am looking for an application for Android displaying
>>> amenity=drinking_water
>>> 
>>> locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to
>>> avoid buying plastic bottles
>>> 
>>> just to almost immediately throw it out.
>>> 
>>> Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects
>>> 
>>> would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.
>>> 
>>> Osmand displays and can find drinking water.
>> 
>> In my experience OSMand starts for a long time, like maps.me [1]. Is
>> at least  search
>> not taking any noticeable time?
>
>Startup of OSMand takes quite some time yes, it annoys me too.
>Searching 
>in the datafile of the Netherlands, some 850 MB, also takes a few 
>seconds. It is certainly not instant and if your impatient it can be a 
>bother.
>But it does not take minutes.
>
>Maarten
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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Maarten Deen]

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
 wrote:



3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org:

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
 wrote:

I am looking for an application for Android displaying
amenity=drinking_water

locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to
avoid buying plastic bottles

just to almost immediately throw it out.

Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects

would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.

Osmand displays and can find drinking water.


In my experience OSMand starts for a long time, like maps.me [1]. Is
at least  search
not taking any noticeable time?


Startup of OSMand takes quite some time yes, it annoys me too. Searching 
in the datafile of the Netherlands, some 850 MB, also takes a few 
seconds. It is certainly not instant and if your impatient it can be a 
bother.

But it does not take minutes.

Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Paul Johnson]

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny 
wrote:

>
>
>
> 3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org:
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny <
> matkoni...@tutanota.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for an application for Android displaying
>> amenity=drinking_water
>> locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to avoid
>> buying plastic bottles
>> just to almost immediately throw it out.
>>
>> Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects
>> would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.
>>
>
> Osmand displays and can find drinking water.
>
> In my experience OSMand starts for a long time, like maps.me. Is at
> least  search
>
> not taking any noticeable time?
>

If you're searching offline only, then it is wholly dependent on the size
of the dataset you have downloaded and the speed of your phone.  That said,
I use it most in Oklahoma, and at 102MB, it's one of the larger datasets in
Osmand (71.2MB is average), and it's relatively snappy on a Pixel XL
running Oreo.  We've only really hit the point in about the last two years
where phones that can really handle what Osmand is trying to do fairly
effectively at a reasonable price point.

Try it on some POS Huawei or ZTE burner phone and you're in for a world of
hurt, from experience.  Probably have to put it on a SD card just to get it
on the phone at all.
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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Maarten Deen]

On 2018-06-03 17:54, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:

I am looking for an application for Android displaying
amenity=drinking_water

locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to
avoid buying plastic bottles


Osmand does that. Just start with typing "drinking" into the POI search.

Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Paul Johnson]

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny 
wrote:

> I am looking for an application for Android displaying
> amenity=drinking_water
> locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to avoid
> buying plastic bottles
> just to almost immediately throw it out.
>
> Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects
> would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.
>

Osmand displays and can find drinking water.
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[OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

[Mateusz Konieczny]

I am looking for an application for Android displaying amenity=drinking_water 
locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to avoid buying 
plastic bottles 
just to almost immediately throw it out.

Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects 
would also be great - it should be fairly simple to adapt.

I know that there is a search function in MAPS.ME allowing to find drinking 
water, 
I am currently using it but this app has long startup time and search is really 
slow for some reason (even for cases that should be easy to index).

I found https://github.com/icechen1/TakeABreak/blob/master/README.md 
 - 
but it is not displaying any locations and Google maps used as a map display 
and 
on top of that licence seems to be missing so it is useless as a base for 
anything.

There is a great "OSM peak finder" app, 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.wuwer.osmpeakfinder=en_GB 

 - but source code is not available.
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