Re: [Talk-at] Public Transport Schema und Wien

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Robin Däneke
Kampf mit Linie die 2.Habe jetzt alle Kursvarianten des 25A eingegeben... Wieso 
stellt overpass die Relation Süßenbrunner Platz - Rennbahnweg (ohne besondere 
Stichfart) bitte einzeln dar? Wieder mal einfach ein API fehler, oder hab ich 
was 
übersehen?http://overpass-api.de/api/sketch-line?network=VORref=25Aoperator=correspondences=100width=2700height=495font-size=force-rows=1max-cors-per-line=max-cors-below=style=
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Re: [Talk-at] Wiener Katastralgemeinden

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Friedrich Volkmann
On 06.06.2015 11:46, Andreas Uller wrote:
 Aus diesem Grund (siehe unten) stellt sich auch die Frage, ob die
 Katastralgemeinden überhaupt als boundary=administrative definiert werden
 sollten,

Katastralgemeinden sind das einzige, was der Definition von admin_level=10
entspricht, und admin_level=10 wird laut Taginfo-Karte überall in
Mitteleuropa massenhaft verwendet. D.h. boundary=administrative ist für
Katastralgemeinden ein De-facto-Standard, das werden wir jetzt nicht mehr
umdrehen können.

 oder nicht in ein anderes Schema (mit Bezirksgerichten,
 Landesgerichten, OLG) gehören.

Was haben sie mit Gerichten zu tun? Das zeigt, wie schwer es ist, ein
passenderes Schema zu finden, solang keiner sagen kann, was
Katastralgemeinden überhaupt noch für eine Funktion haben - außer dass sie
unermüdlich in Statistiken, Gemeindehomepages und Wikipediaseiten
aufgelistet werden.

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[Talk-it] Nuovo portale CNT INGV visualizzazione epicentri su OSM

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Davide Mangraviti
Sul nuovo bel portale (responsive) del Centro Nazionale Terremoti dell'INGV,
tra le tante cose, sarà da oggi possibile visualizzare l'epicentro del
evento sismico, anche su Openstreetmap.

http://cnt.rm.ingv.it/



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Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Minh Nguyen
Phil phil at trigpoint.me.uk writes:

 Transliteration is something that can be done at application level, and a
traveller would have learned the basics. You still need to be able to check
the street names against.what is on the sign.
 Then why not have a single transliteration?  A single cryllic to latin
transliteration will serve all languages using the latin alphabet, do we
need separate Russian,  Ukrainian,  Serbo Croat tags when they are identical?

Transliteration is from one script to another, but many languages may share
the same script, each with its own alphabet. Thus there are almost always
multiple valid transliterations.

It gets worse, especially when transliterating to or from non-European scripts:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Minh%20Nguyen/diary/35163

If you need to wayfind with OSM data, the unqualified `name` tag is your
friend: as the primary name of a feature, it stands the greatest chance of
appearing on signage.

In any case, we shouldn't limit our imagination to travelers carrying OSM
field maps or GPS units while roaming the English countryside. That use case
certainly calls for consistency with signposts, but not at the expense of
other use cases, such as OSM-based world maps, geography textbooks, board
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Re: [Talk-GB] OS Open Names

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Bunny (list)
OS Open Names seems at least in case I looked at not to handle curved roads as 
well as Codepoint in positioning centroid where most houses would be matched 
to correct postcode:
http://oscompare.raggedred.net/?zoom=17lat=53.79255lon=-1.458961layers=B00FFTFT

On Friday 05 Jun 2015 13:26:39 Chris Hill wrote:
 I've been looking more closely at the postcodes in the OS Open Names and
 there seems to be some problems with them. I've had a few comments about
 missing postcodes and some strange positions of a few too. I'm going to
 look into this and take it up with OS, but in the meantime I suggest
 sticking to ONS or Codepoint Open postcodes for now.

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[Talk-cz] Pozvánka na workshop + konferenci příští čtvrtek (Newsletter 1)

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Pavel Zbytovský
Zdravím,

posílám k nahlédnutí 1. newsletter OpenStreetMap CZ [1], kde jsou
pozvánky na dvě akce příští čtvrtek.
1) začátečnícký a pokročilý workshop OSM
2) konference #GeoinformaticsFSvCVUT zaměřená na Open Data  - oragnizuje
Martin Landa, který vás už zval dříve.

Jinak poslední dobou se snažím svůj web o školeních http://osm.zby.cz
předělat na takový portál OSM CZ pro veřejnost. Kdyste měl někdo zájem,
můžeme nad tím společně přemýšlet, případně vám můžu dát editační přístup.
Též nabízím přístup k FB a TW osmcz.

Hezký den,
Pavel Zbytovský
zby.cz


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[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM - SotM US edition ;-)

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Manfred A. Reiter
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 254, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu

Enjoy!


The version was not proofread by a second pair of eyes.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Where's the coastline?

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Dave Foley
I'm in two minds about it myself, I guess I would lean towards the Ordinance 
Survey map since you could argue there is some vegetation there. I personally 
would mark it inside the coastline and as wetland=tidalflat.

Dafo

 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 17:13:33 +0200
 From: molto...@gmail.com
 To: talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Where's the coastline?
 
 On 06/06/2015, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi, maybe I'm getting the wrong end of the stick, but why try and reinvent
  the wheel when you can just compare how the land or water is already
  interpreted
 
 It's more important to be self-consistent than to follow another
 project's lead, even a well-respected one. Or to phrase it
 differently, sticking with your decision is more important than what
 your actual decision is.
 
 That said, I think that the coastline is at mean high-water spring
 tide principle is the most common (sometimes using high-water mark
 instead, which is close enough).
 
  look at the EPA map http://gis.epa.ie/Envision /
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Corine_Land_Cover and see what is land,
  transitional waterbody, coastline.
 
 AFAIU Corine doesn't have a notion of coastline the way OS does. It
 just deals with landcover, and categorizes those as salt marsh, which
 is an easy decision in OSM too. The OSi map on that website shows the
 north part of the wetland as land and the south part as water, which
 is really bogus and a nice example of the official government-funded
 maps not always being the best :p
 
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[OSM-talk-ie] Overpass / relation issue

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden ke...@vool.ie

Hi,

I am have a small issue with an overpass / relation issue, someone might 
be able to point me in the right direction...



I have a geojson file containing the borders of all the counties in the 
republic. I extracted from OSM a few years back, I think I used XAPI to 
extract and did some conversion/flattening but I'm not 100% sure of the 
process.


I now need all the counties in Ireland (the Island) and was trying to 
export these via Overpass Turbo, I thought I had it working but have hit 
a bit of an issue.


My query and export go fine as does the conversion from json to geojson 
(using osmtogeojson), but I am ending up with a geojson file with ~9k 
features, where I was expecting 32.


The overpass query returns 32 relations (as expected) and 9735 ways 
(which I presume make up the border), I know I am doing something wrong 
but I am not too sure if it is with my overpass query or my processing 
of the result set.


Any pointers would be great, I have included the query below,  it can 
also be viewed at http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9N3


Thanks in advance,

Keith





[out:json][timeout:900];

(
  
  area[name=Republic of Ireland];

  area[name=Northern Ireland];
  
);



relation(area)
  [boundary~administrative|historic]
  [admin_level=6];


(._;;);

out;





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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Where's the coastline?

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden moltonel 3x Combo
On 06/06/2015, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, maybe I'm getting the wrong end of the stick, but why try and reinvent
 the wheel when you can just compare how the land or water is already
 interpreted

It's more important to be self-consistent than to follow another
project's lead, even a well-respected one. Or to phrase it
differently, sticking with your decision is more important than what
your actual decision is.

That said, I think that the coastline is at mean high-water spring
tide principle is the most common (sometimes using high-water mark
instead, which is close enough).

 look at the EPA map http://gis.epa.ie/Envision /
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Corine_Land_Cover and see what is land,
 transitional waterbody, coastline.

AFAIU Corine doesn't have a notion of coastline the way OS does. It
just deals with landcover, and categorizes those as salt marsh, which
is an easy decision in OSM too. The OSi map on that website shows the
north part of the wetland as land and the south part as water, which
is really bogus and a nice example of the official government-funded
maps not always being the best :p

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[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM - SotM US edition ;-)

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Manfred A. Reiter
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 254, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu

Enjoy!


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[OSM-talk-fr] Panne de données de GraphHopper

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Yves Pratter
Bonjour,

Si vous avez ajouter des chemins la semaine dernière, ils ne sont pas (encore) 
utilisés par le calculateur d’itinéraires GraphHopper.
Ils avaient un problèmes de données qui est réparé. Les mises à jours de sa 
base de données vont recommencer dès lundi au rythme d’une par 24 heures :)

Bonne fin de semaine,

—
Yves

PS: GraphHopper permet de calculer des itinéraires en voiture, en vélo, à pied 
et avec des “véhicules” personnalisés (fauteuil roulant, cheval…)
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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo portale CNT INGV visualizzazione epicentri su OSM

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden girarsi_liste
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Il 06/06/2015 08:51, Davide Mangraviti ha scritto:
 Sul nuovo bel portale (responsive) del Centro Nazionale Terremoti
 dell'INGV, tra le tante cose, sarà da oggi possibile visualizzare
 l'epicentro del evento sismico, anche su Openstreetmap.
 
 http://cnt.rm.ingv.it/
 
 
 

Non ho capito perchè fanno vedere di default quella di google,
comunque, la possibilità di visualizzarla su OSM è già un bel traguardo.



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Re: [Talk-at] Public Transport Schema und Wien

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Robin Däneke
Also bei mir sieht die U3 richtig aus...  
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Re: [Talk-at] Public Transport Schema und Wien

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Jens Steinhauser
On 06/06/2015 11:09 PM, Thomas Konrad wrote:
 Weil ich mich grad mit der Overpass API gespielt habe: 
 http://overpass-api.de/api/sketch-line?network=VORref=U3operator=correspondences=width=1700height=495font-size=force-rows=1max-cors-per-line=max-cors-below=style=
  
 http://overpass-api.de/api/sketch-line?network=VORref=U3operator=correspondences=width=1700height=495font-size=force-rows=1max-cors-per-line=max-cors-below=style=
 
 Bei der U3 fehlt in der Mitte die Station Stephansplatz, dafür wird sie am 
 Anfang und am Ende jeweils ein Mal angezeigt. Ist das ein Overpass-Bug oder 
 ist da ein Fehler in der Routenrelation?

Die Station Stephansplatz war innerhalb der Relationen nicht richtig gereiht, 
habe das korrigiert, jetzt schauts richtig aus.

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden pmailkeey .
On 5 June 2015 at 12:36, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:





  Am 05.06.2015 um 11:33 schrieb David Fisher djfishe...@gmail.com:
 
  As for landuse=residential -- I agree that we could probably do
  without it.  But it does add to the readability of the map, especially
  at low zoom levels, as it enables you to see at a glance where places
  are and how big they are.


 residential landuse is often seen as default, it is often used to mark
 the built up area rather than just the residential areas (especially in
 villages). We should encourage place polygons for this and restrict the use
 of residential landuse to residential areas.


It would help a LOT if they were rendered on the standard map !

WHY do we have this agony of stuff not being rendered ? Here's a map of the
world. We've not marked on any places as we feel it would be too confusing.

What's the flipping point.

Flog the renderers I say.

-- 
Mike.
@millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction -
For all your info on Millom and South Copeland
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden john whelan
WHY do we have this agony of stuff not being rendered ? Here's a map of
the world. We've not marked on any places as we feel it would be too
confusing.

What's the flipping point.

Flog the renderers I say.

I use Maperitive to render some things a certain way.  The maps are very
specialised and show things clearly in a way that the default render does
not.  For example street names in some Canadian cities have an official
English name and an official French name.  The default rendering does not
offer me the choice.

Cycle paths, lanes etc, together with the rules around them are not of
interest to many mappers but they are to a cyclist.  The many different
ways that OSM can be rendered are a strength not a weakness.

Cheerio John



On 6 June 2015 at 18:41, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote:



 On 5 June 2015 at 12:36, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
 wrote:





  Am 05.06.2015 um 11:33 schrieb David Fisher djfishe...@gmail.com:
 
  As for landuse=residential -- I agree that we could probably do
  without it.  But it does add to the readability of the map, especially
  at low zoom levels, as it enables you to see at a glance where places
  are and how big they are.


 residential landuse is often seen as default, it is often used to mark
 the built up area rather than just the residential areas (especially in
 villages). We should encourage place polygons for this and restrict the use
 of residential landuse to residential areas.


 It would help a LOT if they were rendered on the standard map !

 WHY do we have this agony of stuff not being rendered ? Here's a map of
 the world. We've not marked on any places as we feel it would be too
 confusing.

 What's the flipping point.

 Flog the renderers I say.

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 For all your info on Millom and South Copeland
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 *currently unavailable due to the country's ongoing harassment of me, my
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] bridges

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden moltonel 3x Combo
On 07/06/2015, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net wrote:
 not sure how to add bridges
 correctly - i split at the two nodes that define the bridge , add bridge tag
 and then should i also tag as layer = 1?

Yes that's basicly it. The layer tag says which way is above the
other. You can add layer=* to either way (or both) but a rule of thumb
is to add it to the shortest way (usually the bridge).
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bridge has some more info.

The bridge and the underlying waterway/rail/etc shouldn't share a
node, which can be annoying when maping townlands that follow both the
bridge and the waterway. In those case, you should use an extra way
just for the townland boundary. For example
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/273846258 or
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/344169613

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] bridges

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Dave Corley
To make it easier, go to preferences, and look for tag presets. Activate
one click features or something named similar to that (sorry, afk so
can't give you step by step guide on this bit).

Once done, in the main josm screen, right click on the toolbar and edit it
to add the one click bridge option. From now on just split the road, select
the split piece and click the button and the tags for bridges that way.

I have imagery layers, addressing plugins, often used tags etc all on the
toolbar. Makes it much quicker rather than trying to remember tags or
search through menus

Dave
On 7 Jun 2015 00:15, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 07/06/2015, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net wrote:
  not sure how to add bridges
  correctly - i split at the two nodes that define the bridge , add bridge
 tag
  and then should i also tag as layer = 1?

 Yes that's basicly it. The layer tag says which way is above the
 other. You can add layer=* to either way (or both) but a rule of thumb
 is to add it to the shortest way (usually the bridge).
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bridge has some more info.

 The bridge and the underlying waterway/rail/etc shouldn't share a
 node, which can be annoying when maping townlands that follow both the
 bridge and the waterway. In those case, you should use an extra way
 just for the townland boundary. For example
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/273846258 or
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/344169613

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Jo
In the same vein:

way=0: no way!

Better not to lose sleep over 3 letters.

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[OSM-talk-ie] bridges

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Caroline Lewis
still at correcting a tile for cork co.  [which is taking so long as roads etc  
are v misaligned and streams missing ] but not sure how to add bridges 
correctly - i split at the two nodes that define the bridge , add bridge tag 
and then should i also tag as layer = 1?
hopefully will be able to map more cork townslands soon :)



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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo portale CNT INGV visualizzazione epicentri su OSM

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Aury88
girarsi_liste wrote
 -
 Non ho capito perchè fanno vedere di default quella di google,
 comunque, la possibilità di visualizzarla su OSM è già un bel traguardo.

In realtà la mappa visualizzata sul loro sito è solo un immagine...non puoi
spostare la visualizzazione non puoi ingrandire non puoi cambiare layer o
sorgente della mappa. la mappa esplorabile sia di google sia di OSM sono
link esterni alle relative mappe centrate con marcatore alle coordinate
dell'epicentro... penso abbiano fatto questo perchè estremamente facile da
realizzare e non appesantisce il caricamento del loro sito



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Re: [Talk-it] Shape portale regione Lombardia

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden RColombo
Avete per caso scoperto se le licenze sono compatibili? Sarei interessato
anch'io ad usare alcuni dati presenti nel portale



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Re: [Talk-co] Cooperación con La Federación de Cafeteros de Colombia.

2015-06-06 Diskussionsfäden arkemie
Hola,

La imagen esta disponible en TMS. 
URL para JOSM :
tms:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/salgar/{zoom}/{x}/{y}

(y también en WMS, desde la raiz :
http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/wms)

Saludos,

Jean-Guilhem


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Envoyé: Vendredi 5 Juin 2015 01:16:21
Objet: Re: [Talk-co]Cooperación con La Federación de Cafeteros de Colombia.







El 4 de junio de 2015, 17:59, hyan...@gmail.com  hyan...@gmail.com  escribió: 





El 4 de junio de 2015, 17:41, Fredy Rivera  fredyriv...@gmail.com  escribió: 


2015-06-04 17:38 GMT-05:00 Artesano  arttes...@gmail.com : 
 Hola, yo tengo la información en una USB pesa 16GB, esta noche la estare 
 subiendo desde la conexion de mi casa (4MB) a un drive, y mañana intentaré en 
 MinTIC buscar una conexion de alta veolocidad. 
Luego de que tengamos la info pre-procesada la serviremos en un TMS o 
WMS para calcarla, ya que los términos de la licencia no nos permiten 
distribuir la imagen en raw. 






Excelente! He hecho la solicitud de colaboración al Activation Working Group 
(AWG) del HOT para servir las imágenes una vez esté disponibles. 


Saludos y éxitos, 


Humberto Yances 


Respuesta rápida, tenemos disponibles los servidores en Francia, detalles en el 
chat de coordinación. 

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