Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: > As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray, > Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires. > > > Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available > yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for > Fort McMurray? You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might be willing to donate access to footage. https://www.urthecast.com Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might be of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website will tell you if/when they have near passes. They also have a live feed: https://www.urthecast.com/live Cheers, Simon. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:22:23 -0500 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: The Canon 30D (for example) is rated for 100,000 shutter cycles. If you take a shot every 1-10 seconds, you'll be able to go for roughly 6 straight hours before the shutter will fail. OK so how nerdy am I, just spent an hour (or so) reading up on this and I don't even have a DSLR. ;-) 1). The shutter fail, is apparently more to do with the 'lift mirror' action than the 'rolling curtain' shutters. No indication on how many triggers before the rolling shutters fail... 2). 'Better' DSLRs have a live preview mode where mirror is lifted and image is displayed on screen rather than in optical view finder. 3). 'Silent mode' can use an electronic 1st stage shutter, followed by a mechanical 2nd stage. You can also get the live preview across a USB cable, although I didn't find any commentary on the maximum resolution this can be at, only the fps. Suggestion was that it's mjpeg images so I suspect it is low res. http://sourceforge.net/projects/eos-movrec/ Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Custom OpenStreetMaps ?
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:57:17 +0200 Etric Celine etriccel...@googlemail.com wrote: The only way to create it at the moment is to use OpenLayers on your own webspace. The Google 'My Map' looks quite impressive, and as Etric notes there is no simple (as yet) way to do this. Given that OpenLayers can render out GPX/KMLs/OSMs/etc then this is technically possible maybe one could even abuse potlatch into being the editor for such a project with resultant OSM saved locally. If you are simply wanting to hi-light a node (which already exists in the OSM database) then this can be overlaid on top of the OSM slippy map with something like: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?node=272924312 You can also place marker at a random point directly on the map: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Browsing#Adding_a_Marker By far the best way is to implement your own slippy map as you can control exactly what is displayed (and how), place things in layers, add pop-ups, etc. All it really requires is some web hosting and a few lines of JavaScript to be added to a page. It takes a little pain to get some thing going, but even a java-script ignoramus like me can handle it. For examples, see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenLayers_Simple_Example http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenLayers_Marker_Example http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Openlayers_Track_example There is also the Static Map API under development which lets you place items on a map image via parameters passed in the URL (see http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~pafciu17/). Cheers, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:48:24 +0200 Harald Kleiner e9625...@gmx.at wrote: But anyway: First thing to try is add some more starting points. Just give me a location and the map will look cleaner after the next update! You could add airports to your seeding locations, some rural communites will only be accessible via air. Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] 'Distance to feature' maps?
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:51:22 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I happen to have a Perl script that does something like this With some pretty simple mods (which even I could handle) your code can output a CSV list of lat/long/distance; however I struggled produce a decent contour from this. Previously I had used a perl script to call Gnuplot to 'contour' the SRTM data, which worked fine. Using the data from your script had the problem that is was 'sparse' point data rather than an XY full table of data and as such Gnuplot didn't do a good job at creating contours. There are 2 ways around this I can think of: 1) split the ways in the source data into many more nodes, so that there is more chance of Gnuplot seeing a line trend. 2) Play some math tricks to interpolate the output data, effectively performing the same thing. Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] 'Distance to feature' maps?
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:00:23 +0200
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Finally managed to get something 'believable', see attached contours. You can
download the corresponding roads with JOSM.
Problems where:
1) GnuPlot output number format didn't have enough digits and was distorting
data.
2) Gnuplot dgrid3d needed to be tweaked to improve rejection of points further
away.
3) Source data didn't contain enough nodes, had to interpolate
So I need to merge and render this out with Osmarender, which shouldn't be too
difficult. And then write it up in some form for others to try.
I'd also like to look at selecting which ways to route down. At present it
looks like it is fixed in the perl script but there are some it shouldn't use
('access=private') and it would be nice to do two maps, one with stairs and one
without (mother pushing pram...).
Cheers,
Simon.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal 'man_made:tower' and 'communications_transpoder'
Formally recognized or not, mapnik renders man_made=tower. http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=34.702412609490736lon=-82.80072603684314zoom=17layers=0F0B0F That is actually a 'water tower' (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/312327421) with tags: created_by = Potlatch 0.10f man_made = water_tower Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Proposal 'man_made:tower' and 'communications_transpoder'
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:17:37 -0600 Simon Wood si...@mungewell.org wrote: I have had a go at tidying the proposed tags for communication towers and would welcome any comments. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Communications_tower http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Communications_Transponder Following suggestions and the fact that 'man_made:tower' does not appear to be a formally recognised tag (even if JOSM knows about it) I would like to bring the following two tags into the approval process. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dtower http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Communications_Transponder If you have comments please add to the discussion page for each tag. Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal 'man_made:tower' and 'communications_transpoder'
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:30:16 +0100 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: It does know man_made=mast Which does not have a page on the wiki, and is not listed on the 'man_made' page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Man_made So I guess that it's not valid either. It seems that this little corner of OSM is a little muddled, if you can add comments to the discussion page(s) I'll try to help sort this out. Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal 'man_made:tower' and 'communications_transpoder'
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:53:11 +0100 Chris Hill chillly...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: During the discussions I and other pointed out that man_made=mast is already used, but the process continued. Please don't take this as anything detremental against Chris or his suggestions 'man_made=mast' and 'man_made=tower' are both in use, neither is clearly defined on the wiki and therefore open to mis-interpretation and confusion. By raising the 'man_made=tower' + 'tower:type=xxx' I am hoping to clarify the recommended way to tag these objects and hopefully make it easier for new mappers and rendering engines to place them on maps. Since neither tag was written up in the wiki, I have 'placed a stick in the sand' with some suggestions on how to tag towers (communications/ observation, possibly more types in the future). My main motivation is to sort the 'undocumented mess' out before I add around 3000nodes from a database. One great thing about crowd-sourcing _IS_ that the best solution wins out, if that is 'man_made=mast' then great. But OpenSource and crowdsourcing should also not be scared of fixing things can be done better. So lets come up with a prososal (which I have), vote and act on that. Simon. PS. What else do you guys expect of me, to write up a contrary wiki page for the 'man_made=mast' tag and force a vote of that too ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] touristic car routes
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:14:45 +0200 Ivo van den Maagdenberg ivo.vdmaagdenb...@gmail.com wrote: Just noticed a marked scenic route for cars. Any suggestions for the route tag fort the relation that could mark this kind of routes? name=..., type=route, route=car I have been using: tag k=route v=road/ tag k=type v=route/ for example http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Alberta#Tourist.2FScenic_Trails which are 'official' tourist trails around Alberta, Canada. Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Converting polygon to OSM way?
On 10 Jul 2009 07:27:33 +0200
Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote:
It's very straightforward. Just needs a program to take the one file
format and turn it into a different file format. Just create a bunch
of new nodes, connect them together with a way, then add the
appropriate metadata for your renderer. Number the nodes and ways
with negative numbers.
Yes, it relatively easy... I'm just lazy and wondered if it had been done
already (with some code which really did it right - ie. copying with holes
etc.).
My simple hack method was:
head -n -2 alberta2pts.txt | awk -f poly2way.awk test.osm
poly2way.awk
--
BEGIN {
offset=200
print ?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?
print osm version='0.5' generator='poly2way'
}
{
if (NR 3 ) {
printnode id='- NR+offset ' visible='true' lat=' $2+0
' lon=' $1+0 '
print/node
}
}
END {
printway id='- NR + 1 ' visible='true'
for (count=4; count NR; count++) {
print nd ref='- count+offset '/
}
print nd ref='- 4+offset '/
print tag k='boundary' v='boundary'/
print/way
print /osm
}
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[Talk-ca] circular roads north west of Medicine Hat
What are these? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.534lon=-110.879zoom=10layers=B000FTF They appear in Google's photos, but not on the mapping layer. Simon. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk] New static-maps API
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:57:37 +0100 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com wrote: Various people have been asking for a better version of the MapOf service that's been running on dev for a while, serving mediawiki plugins, dynamic wallpapers, images in websites, etc. So I'm pleased to announce a static maps website with a few extra features: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/StaticMap/ Cool! This might also be useful for creating a fallback 'static' page when JavaScript is disabled on the browsers. I tried to get it to display a relation, without much luck: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/StaticMap/?lat=49.1293lon=-114.0790z=13rel=18323show=1 http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/18323 On the topic of relations; does this mean it is OK to place random 'simon's favourite hike' relations into the OSM database? (I'm working on getting the local ATV'ers hooked - they cover a lot of trail miles...) Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Communications tower/transponders
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:17:37 -0600 Simon Wood si...@mungewell.org wrote: I have had a go at tidying the proposed tags for communication towers and would welcome any comments. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Communications_tower http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Communications_Transponder If no-one has any objections I'd like to formally move these to the 'RFC' stage. Do I do it just by setting the date field? Simon, ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Photos
Hi John, I shall not be a SOTM but you are welcome to use any of the mapping photos on my Flickr stream. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24244...@n03/ Many of us upload surveying photos as a matter of course and tag them 'OSM' or 'OpenStreetMap'. All mine are licensed CC-SA (to match OSM), however I am beging to think that straight CC or even PD would be more appropriate as it might help other map makers (those pesky Google community) to use the information without the need to burn more gas/petrol collecting the same information. Cheers, Simon (aka. mungewell) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] TheTom: Roads in Alberta, script gone wild?
Hi all, I've messaged TheTom seperately, but thought best to post here as well. It looks like a script has gone wild. Down in the Crowsnest Pass highway 3 has been corrupted with this change: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31475452/history It looks like an addition way has be superimposed on top of the original nodes, which run in both directions. I'm worried that this problem is duplicated in multiple places. Cheers, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-ca] TheTom: Roads in Alberta, script gone wild?
Hi all, I've messaged TheTom seperately, but thought best to post here as well. It looks like a script has gone wild. Down in the Crowsnest Pass highway 3 has been corrupted with this change: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31475452/history It looks like an addition way has be superimposed on top of the original nodes, which run in both directions. I'm worried that this problem is duplicated in multiple places. Cheers, Mungewell. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[OSM-talk] Communications tower/transponders
I have had a go at tidying the proposed tags for communication towers and would welcome any comments. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Communications_tower http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Communications_Transponder Cheers, Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Filtering out errors from GPX file
Hi all,
I was wondering how to filter out 'obviously wrong' points from a GPX track
log, which was recorded in heavy tree coverage. The track log was mostly good,
but had a few outlying (individual) points, which would have been hard to find
by hand given 1s data for 1 1/2 hours.
As it took me a while to work out I thought I would document it here, as it
might be of use to someone else. I did this by using GPSBabel to compute the
speed for each point and then used awk to filter out (drop) points which
exceeded a threshold.
$ gpsbabel -t -i gpx -f track.gpx -x track,speed -o unicsv -F temp.unicsv
$ head -n 1 temp.unicsv new.unicsv
$ head -n -1 temp.unicsv | awk -F ',' '{if ($520) print $0;}' new.unicsv
$ gpsbabel -t -i unicsv -f new.unicsv -x transform,trk=wpt -o gpx -F new.gpx
The awk script could be made more complicated (ie. calculate acceleration over
several samples) to give an even better result.
The difference is clear:
$ ./wherewasi.py track.gpx --summary
WhereWasI Output
=
Filename=track.gpx
Number of Track Segments= 1
-
Start Segment / Point = 0/0
End Segment / Point = 0/5365
Start Time = 07/03/2009 17:35:20
End Time= 07/03/2009 19:04:51
Number of Track Points = 5366
-
Total Time = 01:29
Total Distance = 12.03 km
Total Climb = 4761 m
-
Average Speed = 8.06 km/hr
Maximum Speed = 1239.35 km/hr
-
$ ./wherewasi.py new.gpx --summary
WhereWasI Output
=
Filename=new.gpx
Number of Track Segments= 1
-
Start Segment / Point = 0/0
End Segment / Point = 0/5316
Start Time = 07/03/2009 17:35:20
End Time= 07/03/2009 19:04:50
Number of Track Points = 5317
-
Total Time = 01:29
Total Distance = 9.86 km
Total Climb = 3469 m
-
Average Speed = 6.61 km/hr
Maximum Speed = 66.82 km/hr
-
Cheers,
Mungewell.
PS. Wherewasi can be found here:
http://code.google.com/p/wherewasi/
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPisteMap: Cross Country Ski Trails.
Hi Steve and all, On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:52:26 + (GMT) Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org wrote: A non-subjective incline=30% type tag would be better, and matches up with what is often used on highways: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Incline I'm not sure that putting an absolute value on it would be possible for cross country, but reusing the same tag would make sense. So I'll split the way for the steep sections and use 'incline=yes' with the way facing downhill to mark the sections where you are definately going to have to herringbone up the hill. This will allow a certain amount of subjective-ness to be represented on a map. With the SRTM data I think that the resolution of the data would not be detailed enough to detect/show these features as the are likely to be pretty short/small (unlike those for alpine/downhill skiing). Cheers, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OpenPisteMap: Cross Country Ski Trails.
Hi all, Having 'gotten into' cross country skiing this winter I have been mapping the trails at our local spot, however OpenPisteMap is not quite working as I would expect. I have tagged the trails a 'highway=footway' and 'piste:type=nordic' as these trails are multi-use; cycling and walking in the summer and groomed cross country trails in the winter. At present OPM does not render these as ski-trails. Is this the correct way to tag this situation, or can someone suggest a better method? OPM (no contours): http://openpistemap.org/?lon=-114.60574lat=49.66878zoom=15layers=0B00 Osmarender: http://openpistemap.org/?lon=-114.60574lat=49.66878zoom=15layers=000B Also there is no mention of the following on the OpenPisteMap wiki page (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Piste_Maps): 1) Direction of Way: I assume that 'forward' is meant as 'generally downhill' as the 'piste:type=downhill' implies one-way. 2) Steep Sections: Is there a method of marking a steep section? The maps posted on site (http://www.crowsnestguide.com/allisonwonderlands/allisonmap.html) draw a little '|---' line next to the trail at the appropriate places. This could be marked with a short way marked 'piste:steep=yes'. Where this is against the general direction of the way should we reverse the way or use a 'up/down' or 'forward/backward' tagging (ie. 'piste:steep=backward')? If there are no objections, I could/will add the above to the wiki page. Finally, is there an simple way to extract/note elevations from a GPX file in JOSM? Yes I know that GPS elevation is not that accurate. But it's something that would be useful and I'm using a professional/survey grade receiver as the forest trails are rather hard to get lock with my handheld. I would like to add a 'ele=xxx' tag to the markers tag at the junction of the trails to give some indication of height gain/loss between markers. This would enable a person unfamiliar with the trail to gain a sense of the workout they are about to get Cheers, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPisteMap: Cross Country Ski Trails.
Yes I know that GPS elevation is not that accurate. Says who ? I do have a ~10m vertical precision and sometimes less when stopped with my Garmin 60cx. I find it very enough for many many cases, even more than STRM models Technically the vertical accuracy is always less than the horizontal. The receiver (http://www.point-inc.com/products/gsr1700csx.html) I'm using quotes: Static H: 5.0 mm + 1.0 ppm V: 8.0 mm + 2.0 ppm Kinematic, Stop-and-Go H: 10.0 mm + 1.0 ppmV: 12.0 mm + 2.0 ppm Stand-Alone Position 1.8 m CEP Horizontal I'm using it stand alone, although in theory I could use a UHF link back to a base station in the parking lot. The resultants tracks are a little bit jumpy in the heavily tree-ed enviroment: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mungewell/traces/325254 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mungewell/traces/325256 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mungewell/traces/320570 It doesn't help the accuracy when I fall over though ;-) Cheers, Mungewell. I would like to add a 'ele=xxx' tag to the markers tag at the junction of the trails to give some indication of height gain/loss between markers. I'm doing it as well, puting in somewhere on a way might be problematic has someone might mive the node along the way, but if properly tagged at a mountain_pass, a peak, a crossing, I would find it very usefull. -- sly Sylvain Letuffe li...@letuffe.org qui suis-je : http://slyserv.dyndns.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Osmarender - rendering two tracks differently?
Hi all, I uploaded some tracks yesterday with the 'piste:type=nordic' tag, strange thing is that osmarender seems to be rendering them differently (one solid the other dashed) although the tags are the same. Map: http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.66862lon=-114.60604zoom=15layers=0B00FTF The two tracks in the north/west have tags: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31360410/history -- piste:type = nordic highway = footway -- http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31360412/history -- piste:type = nordic highway = footway -- Not that it really matters, I just thought it rather strange Cheers, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] data plucked from who-knows-where?
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:15:26 + 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot more people without GPS units than there are with, and if they can get pleasure from recording street names like this, then the GPS mappers job is made much easier. Isn't this exactly the sort of thing that the 'FIXME' tag can be used for? Personally I have sketched out little features I have been unable to GPS at the time, and labelled them 'FIXME=rough location' or something similar. Since I am alone in the area I am mapping it's probably going to be me re-mapping at some point, but if others were to pass by and enhance the map in the meantime I would be delighted. Cheers, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Another glitch with new Mapnik - edge of reservoir not shown
Hi all, I spoted that the Oldman River Reservoir is not rendering correctly with Mapnick, whilst is correctly showing in Osmarender and the Cyclemap. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.5799lon=-114.0377zoom=13layers=B000FTF Cheers, Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Fixing Albertan Places
Hi all, I've been looking at 'fixing' the place categories in Alberta to match the official definitions, see: http://municipalaffairs.gov.ab.ca/am_municipal_codes.cfm I have permission to use the source file(s) in this manner and have a script that kicks out a change file - which looks to be correct and works on local '.osm' files. So, what is the best way to upload this? Also note that Alberta has the following 'official' place definitions: -- city disaster_district first_nation hamlet improvement_district indian_reserve local_government_association metis_settlement municipal_district other regional_health_authority service_commission special_area_no._2 specialized_municipality status summer_village town village -- 'summer_village' and 'specialized_municipality' are present in this change file, which I presume the renders will not like. Attached is a short textfile which lists which places will change and to what. Comments? Cheers, Mungewell.Abee -- hamlet Acadia Valley -- hamlet Acme -- village Ardmore -- hamlet Ardrossan -- hamlet Ashmont -- hamlet Atmore -- hamlet Balzac -- hamlet Beaver Crossing -- hamlet Beaverdam -- hamlet Beaver Lake -- hamlet Beiseker -- village Bellis -- hamlet Benalto -- hamlet Benchlands -- hamlet Berwyn -- village Big Valley -- village Bindloss -- hamlet Blackie -- hamlet Blue Ridge -- hamlet Bluesky -- hamlet Bluffton -- hamlet Bodo -- hamlet Bondiss -- summer_village Bonnyville Beach -- summer_village Bragg Creek -- hamlet Brant -- hamlet Breynat -- hamlet Brownvale -- hamlet Busby -- hamlet Calling Lake -- hamlet Camrose -- city Carbondale -- hamlet Caroline -- village Carseland -- hamlet Carway -- hamlet Caslan -- hamlet Cayley -- hamlet Cheadle -- hamlet Cherhill -- hamlet Cherry Grove -- hamlet Chin -- hamlet Chisholm -- hamlet Clairmont -- hamlet Clandonald -- hamlet Cochrane Lake -- hamlet Compeer -- hamlet Conklin -- hamlet Consort -- village Coutts -- village Craigmyle -- hamlet Czar -- village Dapp -- hamlet Deadwood -- hamlet Delburne -- village Demmitt -- hamlet Dixonville -- hamlet Donalda -- village Donatville -- hamlet Donnelly -- village Dorothy -- hamlet Duffield -- hamlet Dunmore -- hamlet Duvernay -- hamlet Eaglesham -- hamlet Edwand -- hamlet Egremont -- hamlet Ellscott -- hamlet Empress -- village Enchant -- hamlet Endiang -- hamlet Enilda -- hamlet Ensign -- hamlet Entwistle -- hamlet Etzikom -- hamlet Evansburg -- hamlet Fairview -- town Faust -- hamlet Fawcett -- hamlet Flatbush -- hamlet Fleet -- hamlet Fort Assiniboine -- hamlet Fort Chipewyan -- hamlet Fort Kent -- hamlet Fort McMurray -- hamlet Fort Vermilion -- hamlet Gem -- hamlet Girouxville -- village Gleichen -- hamlet Grassland -- hamlet Grassy Lake -- hamlet Green Court -- hamlet Gull Lake -- summer_village Hayter -- hamlet Heinsburg -- hamlet Hesketh -- hamlet Hilda -- hamlet Hines Creek -- village Hoadley -- hamlet Hobbema -- hamlet Hylo -- hamlet Hythe -- village Iddesleigh -- hamlet Irvine -- hamlet Jarvie -- hamlet Jasper -- specialized_municipality Jenner -- hamlet Joffre -- hamlet Josephburg -- hamlet Joussard -- hamlet Kavanagh -- hamlet Keoma -- hamlet Kingman -- hamlet Kinuso -- village Kirriemuir -- hamlet Lac La Biche -- hamlet La Corey -- hamlet Lake Louise -- hamlet Lakeview -- summer_village Lavoy -- hamlet Leslieville -- hamlet Lethbridge -- city Lindbergh -- hamlet Lloydminster -- city Looma -- hamlet Lousana -- hamlet Mackay -- hamlet Madden -- hamlet Mallaig -- hamlet Manola -- hamlet Manyberries -- hamlet Marlboro -- hamlet Meanook -- hamlet Michichi -- hamlet Monarch -- hamlet Monitor -- hamlet Morningside -- hamlet/ Mossleigh -- hamlet Mountain View -- hamlet Namao -- hamlet Nampa -- village Newbrook -- hamlet New Dayton -- hamlet Nightingale -- hamlet Nisku -- hamlet Nobleford -- village North Cooking Lake -- hamlet North Star -- hamlet Notikewin -- hamlet Parkland -- hamlet Patricia -- hamlet Peers -- hamlet Perryvale -- hamlet Pibroch -- hamlet Pincher Station -- hamlet Plamondon -- hamlet Purple Springs -- hamlet Radway -- hamlet Ranfurly -- hamlet Red Willow -- hamlet Riverview -- hamlet Robb -- hamlet Rochfort Bridge -- hamlet Rosebud -- hamlet Round Hill -- hamlet Rumsey -- hamlet Rycroft -- village Sangudo -- hamlet Scandia -- hamlet Schuler -- hamlet Seba Beach -- summer_village Sedalia -- hamlet Shepard -- hamlet Sherwood Park -- hamlet Shouldice -- hamlet Skiff -- hamlet Spedden -- hamlet Standard -- village Strathcona County -- specialized_municipality Suffield -- hamlet Sunnybrook -- hamlet Sunnynook -- hamlet Sunnyslope -- hamlet Tangent -- hamlet Tawatinaw -- hamlet Therien -- hamlet Torrington -- hamlet Venice -- hamlet Vimy -- hamlet Wagner -- hamlet Walsh -- hamlet Wandering River -- hamlet Wardlow -- hamlet Warspite -- hamlet Waterton Park -- hamlet Watino -- hamlet Wetaskiwin -- city Whitelaw -- hamlet Wildwood -- hamlet Wimborne -- hamlet Winfield -- hamlet Woking -- hamlet Worsley -- hamlet Wrentham -- hamlet
Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap questions
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:41:33 -0700 Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right. It's because the source files don't have bounds. If you have only a couple files, you could insert a dummy bound element before the first node. It should work as long as it includes the area that you're cropping with --bb. You could just make it span the entire planet, like bound box=-90,-180,90,180 origin=osmxapi/ and then Osmosis will cut it down to your bounding box. Hello again Karl, Yes, placing a dummy 'planet wide' bound box into one of the files makes osmosis insert the more limited one in the output. One would think that XAPI would include bound box in it's output hint hint ;-) Cheers, Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap questions
Hi,
I made some really good progress last week and got a map together for the
Crowsnest Pass. Unfortunately for the area I chose with a fair number of
contours the map redraw was quite slow. I have worked out how to graduate the
contours so more appear as the user zooms in, I'll have to wait to see if this
speeds up rendering.
I was thinking that the render might be quicker if I used a series of smaller
maps. I used osmosis to split the '.osm' file into smaller tiles. However this
was not putting any 'bound box' line into the file and mkgmap was therefore not
cropping the tile neatly, instead it was including the ways which overhung the
edge of the bounding box. Should this be the case, or am I mis-understanding?
General questions about garmin maps.
1). The '--gmapsupp' option makes compress archives. Can multiple of these be
loaded at the same time, or does the user have to have access to the individual
map files if they want to load more than just my map?
2). What is the purpose of the tdb-files ('--tdbfile' option)? I have never
used mapsource
Thanks,
Simon.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:14:52 +0100
Steve Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you have an element like the following at the start of the .osm file:
bound box='-115,49.25,-114,49.75'/
then it should clip the .img file to exactly those bounds including both
line and polygon features. The 'bound' element is included by osmosis, but I
didn't realise that it wasn't used everywhere, so we probably need to
add another way of setting the bbox too. But anyway the code is there to do
it. See http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/page/6 for an example of how it looks.
..Steve
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[OSM-talk] Tagging unamed cycle routes following normal roads.
Hi all, In my wanderings around Calgary I am noting the location of Cycle route sign with geo-located photos, such as: http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2654781444 Since I can't reference the offical cycle route map (for copyright reasons), how to I enter these into OSM without knowing what relation to put them under. Is it valid to create a single 'marked cycle routes' relation and put all the ones I find in that so that at least they are stored somewhere? Cheers, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Relation/Routes and Hikes in open Country
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:17:58 -0400 Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add a 'projection: map.displayProjection' in the options of your GML layer, by your format object. Bingo! I didn't really follow what Christoper meant, but I mucked around with different projections and managed to get it going. Example page: http://www.mungewell.org/osm/osm.html Thanks everyone for the help, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Relation/Routes and Hikes in open Country
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:01:40 -0400 Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenLayers parser doesn't do anything with relations themselves -- it wouldn't group the bits together into a single feature -- but it would take the ways and nodes and draw them into the map. I spent the evening trying to get this to work. I get the underlying map OK, but no matter what I try I can't get the OSM data overlaid on it :-( Best I can make out is that it is failing (siliently) to load the data. Attached is my attempt... Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Converting Polish/.MP to OSM?
Hi, I have finally gotten around to uploading some of the Calgary Trails Project data... under the username 'catmp'. I made a slight mod the converter to remove attribution/RoadID on nodes within a way as this was making/will make cleaning up of traces difficult. I think there is a bug with the POLYGON stuff. Look in the Calgary area (BOW RIVER polygons), they are mostly right but 'jump' to nodes not in the original polygon. So it looks like something is up with the 'previously used' node stuff. For example (frigged the name to make it findable in output) --- [POLYGON] Type=0x48 Label=BLOW RIVER Data0=(50.93128,-113.99972),(50.93116,-113.99959),(50.93172,-113.99959),(50.93214,-113.8),(50.93279,-114.00093),(50.93288,-114.00122),(50.93270,-114.00196),(50.93262,-114.00212),(50.93253,-114.00199),(50.93227,-114.00067),(50.93163,-113.0),(50.93150,-113.3) [END]RoadID=1459 --- ends up with nodes --- node id='-1' visible='true' lat='50.93163' lon='-113.' / - yes node id='-2' visible='true' lat='50.93227' lon='-114.00067' / - yes node id='-3' visible='true' lat='50.91909' lon='-113.99369' / - no comes from RoadID 1458 node id='-4' visible='true' lat='50.93262' lon='-114.00212' / - yes node id='-5' visible='true' lat='50.93214' lon='-113.8' / - yes node id='-6' visible='true' lat='50.93279' lon='-114.00093' / - yes node id='-7' visible='true' lat='50.93116' lon='-113.99959' / - yes node id='-8' visible='true' lat='50.93288' lon='-114.00122' / - yes node id='-9' visible='true' lat='50.9327' lon='-114.00196' / - yes node id='-10' visible='true' lat='50.91991' lon='-113.9935' / - no comes from RoadID=1459 node id='-11' visible='true' lat='50.92262' lon='-113.99522' / - no comes from RoadID=1459 node id='-12' visible='true' lat='50.9315' lon='-113.3' / - yes --- I am not 100% convinced of the tags, apparently the route up Turtle Mountain is 'bicycle=yes'... this is definately NOT the case Don't know whether this is source data problem, or with the parsing of the garmin attributes. Places uploaded: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.5908lon=-114.4056zoom=14layers=B00FT http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.5846lon=-114.5279zoom=13layers=B00FT http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.3548lon=-114.2812zoom=13layers=B00FT http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.0474lon=-113.9209zoom=13layers=B00FT (these are revertable/removable quite easily as there are isolated on their own) Way too late to do much more on this tonight (errr.. this morning). Cheers, Simon. blow_river.osm Description: Binary data ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] JOSM cut and paste between layers results in position change
Hi, I'm working on importing the trails from the Calgary Trails Project, at present I have one large '.osm' file containing 2220 ways and 72136 nodes. I could import this in one hit, but I feel that it would be unwise and some oversight is required. Therefore I was thinking that I could use JOSM to open the local '.osm' file, find an interesting place and download the appropriate OSM data to a different layer. Once I have confirm that this particular area is OK I could 'copy and paste' between layers. This is not possible because a paste displaces the way/node by some random (?) amount. Q). Is there some what to duplicate a way/node on another layer without this displacement? Is there another way I could achieve the same partial upload? Cheers, Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Using Osmarender to hilight Relation/Routes?
Hi all, I am working with a local trail mapping project to see if OSM can provide the tools that they require to map out the trails in a mountian resort. Eventually they would like to have a map showing all the walking, cycling, cross country sking, ATV and snowmobile trails in the area, I believe that this is an excellent way to show case OSM and to get them all entering data into the database. I'm looking into the possibility of using Osmarender to output a SVG map (which) will then be printed. At present I can envisage how the physical side of the map will work (with footways, cycleways, tracks, roads etc), however as far as I can see there is no way to get Osmarender to highlight a Relation/Route. Prehaps I am missing the magic? Ideally I would like to do the equivilant of the UK Cycle Map, which over-renders the Relation/Route(s) onto the base map: http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=14lat=6699525.62319lon=-31464.02406layers=B00 It would appear that all their (UK cycle guys') data is stored within the OSM database, see: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.437lon=-0.29509zoom=15layers=B0FT I am not 100% how the project want to format their maps, but the idea of numbered sign posts was mentioned. So is there a way of labelling a Relation/Route/Stop, so that a renderer can put a number (or text) label over a node? Sort of like the previously feature image: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Image:Cyclingnodes.jpg I spent a while poking around the Wiki and trying to understand the XSL source (not my forte), but am still none the wiser. Anyone got any hints/clues for me? Thanks, Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Converting Polish/.MP to OSM?
On Fri, 9 May 2008 00:24:11 -0600 Simon Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I've had a stab at this, probably the worlds worst python script but it does work Cleaned up version added to SVN, browsable here: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/utils/import/mp2osm/mp2osm_catmp.py Supports POI, POLYLINE and POLYGON. Can parse the CATMP stuff without error, but have not uploaded resultant data to OSM yet. Doesn't do anything with the 'Nod[1..]' bits as I couldn't see how to re-open an element in ElementTree to modify it/add the appropriate tag. Cheers, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Converting Polish/.MP to OSM?
Hi all, Is anyone working on any tools to facilitate the conversion of '.mp' to '.osm'? I have permission to import some footpaths/trails from this site: http://www.calgarycachers.net/trailmaps/maps.htm I found this, but it seems limited to places and POI's. http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/mp2osm/ The file I have to work with contains POLYLINES and PIO's, for example. --- [POLYLINE] Type=0x16 Label=Yamnuska West Ascent RoadID=1176 RouteParam=1,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,1 Data0=(51.12277,-115.10575),(51.12282,-115.10608),(51.12282,-115.10638),(51.12286,-115.10646),(51.12286,-115.10698),(51.12282,-115.10733),(51.12290,-115.10746),(51.12282,-115.10794),(51.12282,-115.10844),(51.12286,-115.10861),(51.12295,-115.10865),(51.12295,-115.10884),(51.12308,-115.10878),(51.12316,-115.10891),(51.12324,-115.10878),(51.12342,-115.10871),(51.12337,-115.10904),(51.12346,-115.10900),(51.12350,-115.10910),(51.12350,-115.10904),(51.12380,-115.10897),(51.12389,-115.10930),(51.12398,-115.10947),(51.12411,-115.10942),(51.12415,-115.10951),(51.12415,-115.10968),(51.12427,-115.10981),(51.12427,-115.11007),(51.12432,-115.11011),(51.12427,-115.11024),(51.12445,-115.11063),(51.12440,-115.11084),(51.12440,-115.11136),(51.12432,-115.11153),(51.12440,-115.11157),(51.12436,-115.11170),(51.12440,-115.11174),(51.12449,-115.11206),(51.12445,-115.11209),(51.12449,-115.11213),(51.12458,-115.11303),(51.12411,-115.11412),(51.12393,-115.11470),(51.12393,-115.11531),(51.12389,-115.11548),(51.12380,-115.11548),(51.12368,-115.11565),(51.12359,-115.11582),(51.12355,-115.11618),(51.12282,-115.11734) Nod1=0,2876,0 Nod2=49,2839,0 [END] -- Cheers, Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Converting Polish/.MP to OSM?
On Mon, 5 May 2008 22:20:04 -0600 Simon Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is anyone working on any tools to facilitate the conversion of '.mp' to '.osm'? I have permission to import some footpaths/trails from this site: http://www.calgarycachers.net/trailmaps/maps.htm By the way, I created a user account 'catmp' for the purpose of uploading this data (and as a way of keeping track of it). I also thought it would be polite to add a URL field with a link to his website. He says that he updates about every 3 months, so whatever we do to import it should be able to handle/track changes. Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] GeoGratis - Low accuracy Waterways.
Hi all, What's the deal with GeoGratis rivers, a whole load have appeared in Southen Alberta. They apear to have a low accuracy, so how should 'we' handle it when there already is a more accurate way representing a particular river. Example location: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.603lon=-114.4402zoom=13layers=B0FT (have to 'edit' as these haven't been rendered yet). Cheers, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Recruitment/Community Poster.
Hi all, It would appear that the amount of OSM'ers here in Canada is a little limited. especially in the rural areas. The bigger cities have be more or less mapped out from the high resolution aerial photography, however many of the street names are missing and there is very little detail on the ammenity front. The only way this is going to be resolved is if we can get more locals involved in the project. I was contemplating putting up a small OSM poster on the local community notice boards. Is OSM ready for a flood (ever optimistic ;-) of newbies? Text could read something like: --- Put your community on The Map! The work has started, volunteers at OpenStreetMap.com have been logging the roads and rivers in your community, but now they need your help to add details of street names and local ammenities (resturants, gas stations, etc.). So why not just use Google Maps (or the like)? Although Google makes it's maps available on the internet, it is a company that is more interested in charging people and companies to license it's data. This look, but don't touch means that you can't reuse the maps they provide (without paying), and should anything be wrong good luck with trying to get it corrected. OpenStreetMap.com is different in that the data is available to everyone, for whatever purpose they want. It is based on the 'Wiki' concept where anyone can edit the maps marking the location/names of roads, ammenities, resturants, etc. In fact you can add the location of anything you want. The resultant maps are available to browse on the internet (just like Google's maps), but they are also available to download and use how you want to. If you don't like the way they look, you are able to download the source data and render your map however you like. It has been said that even the most recent map is always out of date. With OpenStreetMap as soon as a change is made on the ground, local volunteers can correct the maps and the results will be (almost) instantly available to the world. So what is needed to partipate in OpenStreetMap? For advanced mapping tools such as GPS recievers and digital cameras are useful, but simply having access to the internet will allow you to contribute by checking/editing the maps and to add that all important local information. The only real requirement is that the information is 'first hand' and is not copied from copyrighted sources (such as Google maps). --- Any comments/suggestions on the concept or the wording? Mungewell. PS. I'm not an artist, so don't expect anything too fancy. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
