Re: [Talk-it] Numero emergenza 112

[Aury88]

Dario Zontini Gmail wrote
> Segnalo che in alcune regioni dove è attivo il numero unico 112 consiglio
> di usare questa app che utilizza mappe OSM
> https://www.areu.lombardia.it/web/home/app-where-are-u
> 
> 
> 
> Dario Zontini

ciao, l'avevo già segnalato qualche giorno fa [1], ma non fa mai male
ricordarlo ;-)

grazie 

ps: sto mettendo la pulce nell'orecchio tra i colleghi dell'ufficio tecnico
patrimoniale del ASST di Vimercate...chissà che non si riesca ad estendere
l'utilizzo dei dati OSM anche ad altri comparti della sanità pubblica :-)

[1]http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Mappe-OSM-su-tutte-le-ambulanze-del-118-FVG-td5894839.html#a5895294



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Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017

[Marián Kyral]

url by bylo: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kvart%C3%A1ln%C3%AD_pivo
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kvart%C3%A1ln%C3%AD_pivo)

Stačí jen doplnit obsah. A to můžeš i ty :-D

Marián

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"

libí se mi, jak to wikipedisté vedou - jasně vidět co, kdy a kde se chystá,
na stejném místě je záznam o proběhlém + každý se na tom může podílet a při
kvalitě výsledku to není ani moc pracné. Chce to však vytrvalost (v tom je
Blahma fenomén, ale najdou se i tady - např. překlady či Weekly,..). Žel v
tuto chvíli třeba nevím, na jakou URL poslat kámošovi odkaz, když jej chci
pozvat.


;?



On 31.5.2017 22:44, Marián Kyral wrote:

"Stále nechápu ;-)

Marián

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Datum: 31. 5. 2017 22:22:07
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
"

ehm ehm(https://youtu.be/6RjLGUsbIzU?t=1h37m27s) - Pod reálnou lípou
(https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie:Pod_re%C3%A1lnou_l%C3%ADpou/Brno,_17._kv%C4%9Btna_2017)
   ;?



On 22.5.2017 12:59, Marián Kyral wrote:

"BTW:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno) - Brno is a city in the Czech 
Republic(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Czech_Republic) at latitude 49°
12′00″ North, longitude 16°36′00″ East.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ostrava
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ostrava) - Ostrava je velkoměsto (Czech
Republic(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Czech_Republic)) na zem. šířce
49°50′10″ severně a zem. délce 18°17′35″ východně.

Neměli bychom vygenerovat Cs:Ostrava? Dalibore? :-D

A ty zápisy by možná bylo lepší dávat tady: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/
wiki/Kvart%C3%A1ln%C3%AD_pivo
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kvart%C3%A1ln%C3%AD_pivo)
Udělat českou verzi a tam to průběžně doplňovat. Nebo alespoň doplnit odkazy
na jednotlivá města.

Marián





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Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
(mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org)
Datum: 22. 5. 2017 11:49:11
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
"upravil jsem kalendar - Brno jsem udelal odkaz na
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno/Setk%C3%A1n%C3%AD
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno/Setk%C3%A1n%C3%AD) i kdyz se
ta, ted nic nezapisovalo... Ale jako misto pro zapis co se delo to
neni asi uplne spatne kdyz se toho nekdo ujme :-)

Bye

Dne 19. května 2017 11:35 Marián Kyral 
(mailto:mky...@email.cz) napsal(a):
> Přidal jsem. Ale nějakou tu wiki stránku by to chtělo. Popřemýšlím, ale
teď
> nebude vůbec čas.
>
> Marián
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Michal Fabík (mailto:michal.fa...@gmail.com)
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
(mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org)
> Datum: 19. 5. 2017 9:58:05
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
>
>
> 2017-05-19 9:02 GMT+02:00 Pavel Zbytovský 
(mailto:zbytov...@gmail.com):
>
> Napsal jsem o tom větičku na osmap.cz/komunita
>
>
> Ahoj, co takhle to přidat i sem:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events) ? Kdyby třeba zrovna
jel
> okolo nějaký mapper z ciziny...
>
>
> --
> Michal Fabík
>
> 2017-05-19 9:02 GMT+02:00 Pavel Zbytovský 
(mailto:zbytov...@gmail.com):
>
> Napsal jsem o tom větičku na osmap.cz/komunita
>
> Též tam odkazuju na spredsheet, kde bychom mohli dávat aktuální informace
+
> zapisovat kdo přijde.
> Myslím, že je fajn to mít na jednom místě, abychom navzájem tak tušili kdo
> je kde aktivní.
>
> Viz - zapište prosím účast:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12zGtW414R9se_g_87FdmpHj2B6xO1gf5mG
94avTmFb4/edit#gid=1985830819
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12zGtW414R9se_g_87FdmpHj2B6xO1gf5mG94avTmFb4/edit#gid=1985830819)
>
> P.
>
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:41 AM Michal Fabík 
(mailto:michal.fa...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Ahoj, taky bych se přidal.
>
>
> --
> Michal Fabík
>
> 2017-05-18 10:09 GMT+02:00 Tom Ka 
(mailto:tomas.kaspa...@gmail.com):
>
> Dne 18. května 2017 7:30 Pavel Zbytovský 
(mailto:zbytov...@gmail.com) napsal(a):
>> Dík za připomenutí, jak se to vlastně počítá? První středa v měsíci?
>
> Zkus pohledat v archivu VOPovo stanoveni terminu a vysvetleni proc prave
> takto.
>
> Jinak Brno klasika U Kormidla 18:00. Zamluvim.
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Utente burlone

[Damjan Gerl]

  
  
31.05.2017 - 07:53 - Alessandro Palmas:


  
  Il 30/05/2017 23:49, Cascafico
Giovanni ha scritto:
  
  
Ho revertato i rimanenti e spedito qs mail al
  DWG:
  
  
  L'hanno bloccato temporaneamente, vediamo se rinsavisce o magari
  smette di editare.


Fino ad ora niente...

Giusto come conferma: oggi ho verificato personalmente se esistono
(avevo un leggero dubbio che potessero essere stati costruiti a mia
insaputa) i due grandi parcheggi presso il Sincrotrone di Basovizza
che Karma2811 ha inserito l'altro giorno (uno vicino al parcheggio
attuale in Via di Basovizza e l'altro presso la centrale
fotovoltaica). Ovviamente non ci sono e quindi era tutto inventato
:-(
Quindi una conferma in più del vandalismo...

Damjan
  


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[OSM-ja] 「State of theMap2107 in Aizuwakamatsu」開催のお知らせ

[jun meguro]

ML購読者のみなさま

State of theMap2107 in Aizuwakamatsu 実行委員会代表の目黒と申します。

来る8月18日〜20日、OpenStreetMapの世界年次カンファレンス「State of theMap2107 in Aizuwakamatsu
」が福島県会津若松市で開催されます。
今回開催しますのは、世界各国で行われているSOTMのグローバルレベルのものであり、世界中から第一線の方々が参加されます。

現在既にに参加申し込みが開始されていますので、この貴重な機会に是非ご参加頂ければと思います。
https://join.osmfoundation.org/state-of-the-map-2017/
特に今すぐ申し込んで頂きますと、Eary
Bird割引が適用されまして、コミュニティチケットなら75ユーロ、企業チケットは180ユーロと割安（35%off）に購入することができます。

また実行委員会では、本カンファレンスにご協賛くださる企業/団体を募集しております。
様々な特典をご用意しておりますので、合わせてご検討頂ければと思います。

実行委員会メンバーは現在、SOTMを成功させるべく尽力しています。
夏の会津でお目にかかれますことを、メンバー 一同楽しみにお待ちしております！



State of the Map 2017 in Aizuwakamatsu実行委員会
https://2017.stateofthemap.org/
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Re: [Talk-es] Traducción bienvenida de OSM

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

Vale, ya he hecho el cambio en translatewiki.net quedando así:

Lo que no se incluye son datos basados en opiniones (por ejemplo,
valoraciones), características históricas que ya no existen sobre el
terreno o hipotéticas, ni datos provenientes de fuentes protegidas por
derechos de autor. A menos que tenga un permiso especial, no copie de mapas
en línea o en papel.

El 31 de mayo de 2017, 15:42, Ibai Gurrutxaga 
escribió:

> Hola.
>
> A mí también me gusta más "datos basados en opiniones" que "datos
> polémicos".
>
> Ibai Gurrutxaga.
>
>
> On 31/05/17 16:27, dcapillae wrote:
> > Me suena mejor "datos basados en opiniones" que "datos polémicos".
> Además lo
> > veo más ajustado al original. Ya se ha hablado del tema de los datos y
> las
> > opiniones con anterioridad, así que no reabriré la cuestión. Si os gusta
> más
> > la opción de "datos polémicos", adelante. Añadiéndole el ejemplo entre
> > paréntesis, "datos polémicos (por ejemplo, valoraciones)", creo que se
> > entiende igualmente bien a qué tipo de datos o informaciones nos estamos
> > refiriendo.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Daniel Capilla
> > OSM user: dcapillae
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.
> com/Traduccion-bienvenida-de-OSM-tp5897333p5897415.html
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Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017

[Ladislav Nesnera]

libí se mi, jak to wikipedisté vedou -jasně vidět co, kdy a kde se
chystá, na stejném místě je záznam o proběhlém + každý se na tom může
podílet a při kvalitě výsledku to není ani moc pracné. Chce to však
vytrvalost (v tom je Blahma fenomén, ale najdou se i tady - např.
překlady či Weekly,..). Žel v tuto chvíli třeba nevím, na jakou URL
poslat kámošovi odkaz, když jej chci pozvat.

;?


On 31.5.2017 22:44, Marián Kyral wrote:
> Stále nechápu ;-)
>
> Marián
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Ladislav Nesnera 
> Komu: 8 list 
> Datum: 31. 5. 2017 22:22:07
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
>
>
> ehm ehm  - Pod reálnou
> lípou
> 
> 
>   
> ;?
>
>
> On 22.5.2017 12:59, Marián Kyral wrote:
>
> BTW:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno - *Brno* is a city in
> the Czech Republic
>  at
> latitude 49°12′00″ North, longitude 16°36′00″ East.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ostrava - *Ostrava* je
> velkoměsto (Czech Republic
> ) na zem.
> šířce 49°50′10″ severně a zem. délce 18°17′35″ východně.
>
> Neměli bychom vygenerovat Cs:Ostrava? Dalibore? :-D
>
> A ty zápisy by možná bylo lepší dávat tady:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kvart%C3%A1ln%C3%AD_pivo
> Udělat českou verzi a tam to průběžně doplňovat. Nebo alespoň
> doplnit odkazy na jednotlivá města.
>
> Marián
>
>
>
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Tom Ka 
> 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> 
> Datum: 22. 5. 2017 11:49:11
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
>
>
> upravil jsem kalendar - Brno jsem udelal odkaz na
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno/Setk%C3%A1n%C3%AD
> i kdyz se
> ta, ted nic nezapisovalo... Ale jako misto pro zapis co se
> delo to
> neni asi uplne spatne kdyz se toho nekdo ujme :-)
>
> Bye
>
> Dne 19. května 2017 11:35 Marián Kyral 
>  napsal(a):
> > Přidal jsem. Ale nějakou tu wiki stránku by to chtělo.
> Popřemýšlím, ale teď
> > nebude vůbec čas.
> >
> > Marián
> >
> > -- Původní e-mail --
> > Od: Michal Fabík 
> 
> > Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic
>  
> > Datum: 19. 5. 2017 9:58:05
> > Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
> >
> >
> > 2017-05-19 9:02 GMT+02:00 Pavel Zbytovský
>  :
> >
> > Napsal jsem o tom větičku na osmap.cz/komunita
> >
> >
> > Ahoj, co takhle to přidat i sem:
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events ?
> Kdyby třeba zrovna jel
> > okolo nějaký mapper z ciziny...
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michal Fabík
> >
> > 2017-05-19 9:02 GMT+02:00 Pavel Zbytovský
>  :
> >
> > Napsal jsem o tom větičku na osmap.cz/komunita
> >
> > Též tam odkazuju na spredsheet, kde bychom mohli dávat
> aktuální informace +
> > zapisovat kdo přijde.
> > Myslím, že je fajn to mít na jednom místě, abychom
> navzájem tak tušili kdo
> > je kde aktivní.
> >
> > Viz - zapište prosím účast:
> >
> 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12zGtW414R9se_g_87FdmpHj2B6xO1gf5mG94avTmFb4/edit#gid=1985830819
> >
> > P.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:41 AM Michal Fabík
>  
> > wrote:
> >
> > Ahoj, taky bych se přidal.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michal Fabík
> >
> > 2017-05-18 10:09 GMT+02:00 Tom Ka
>  :
> >
> > Dne 18. května 2017 7:30 Pavel Zbytovský
>

Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017

[Marián Kyral]

Stále nechápu ;-)

Marián

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Komu: 8 list 
Datum: 31. 5. 2017 22:22:07
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
"

ehm ehm(https://youtu.be/6RjLGUsbIzU?t=1h37m27s) - Pod reálnou lípou
(https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie:Pod_re%C3%A1lnou_l%C3%ADpou/Brno,_17._kv%C4%9Btna_2017)
   ;?



On 22.5.2017 12:59, Marián Kyral wrote:

"BTW:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno) - Brno is a city in the Czech 
Republic(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Czech_Republic) at latitude 49°
12′00″ North, longitude 16°36′00″ East.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ostrava
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ostrava) - Ostrava je velkoměsto (Czech
Republic(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Czech_Republic)) na zem. šířce
49°50′10″ severně a zem. délce 18°17′35″ východně.

Neměli bychom vygenerovat Cs:Ostrava? Dalibore? :-D

A ty zápisy by možná bylo lepší dávat tady: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/
wiki/Kvart%C3%A1ln%C3%AD_pivo
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kvart%C3%A1ln%C3%AD_pivo)
Udělat českou verzi a tam to průběžně doplňovat. Nebo alespoň doplnit odkazy
na jednotlivá města.

Marián





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Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
(mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org)
Datum: 22. 5. 2017 11:49:11
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
"upravil jsem kalendar - Brno jsem udelal odkaz na
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno/Setk%C3%A1n%C3%AD
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno/Setk%C3%A1n%C3%AD) i kdyz se
ta, ted nic nezapisovalo... Ale jako misto pro zapis co se delo to
neni asi uplne spatne kdyz se toho nekdo ujme :-)

Bye

Dne 19. května 2017 11:35 Marián Kyral 
(mailto:mky...@email.cz) napsal(a):
> Přidal jsem. Ale nějakou tu wiki stránku by to chtělo. Popřemýšlím, ale
teď
> nebude vůbec čas.
>
> Marián
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Michal Fabík (mailto:michal.fa...@gmail.com)
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
(mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org)
> Datum: 19. 5. 2017 9:58:05
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
>
>
> 2017-05-19 9:02 GMT+02:00 Pavel Zbytovský 
(mailto:zbytov...@gmail.com):
>
> Napsal jsem o tom větičku na osmap.cz/komunita
>
>
> Ahoj, co takhle to přidat i sem:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events) ? Kdyby třeba zrovna
jel
> okolo nějaký mapper z ciziny...
>
>
> --
> Michal Fabík
>
> 2017-05-19 9:02 GMT+02:00 Pavel Zbytovský 
(mailto:zbytov...@gmail.com):
>
> Napsal jsem o tom větičku na osmap.cz/komunita
>
> Též tam odkazuju na spredsheet, kde bychom mohli dávat aktuální informace
+
> zapisovat kdo přijde.
> Myslím, že je fajn to mít na jednom místě, abychom navzájem tak tušili kdo
> je kde aktivní.
>
> Viz - zapište prosím účast:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12zGtW414R9se_g_87FdmpHj2B6xO1gf5mG
94avTmFb4/edit#gid=1985830819
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12zGtW414R9se_g_87FdmpHj2B6xO1gf5mG94avTmFb4/edit#gid=1985830819)
>
> P.
>
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:41 AM Michal Fabík 
(mailto:michal.fa...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Ahoj, taky bych se přidal.
>
>
> --
> Michal Fabík
>
> 2017-05-18 10:09 GMT+02:00 Tom Ka 
(mailto:tomas.kaspa...@gmail.com):
>
> Dne 18. května 2017 7:30 Pavel Zbytovský 
(mailto:zbytov...@gmail.com) napsal(a):
>> Dík za připomenutí, jak se to vlastně počítá? První středa v měsíci?
>
> Zkus pohledat v archivu VOPovo stanoveni terminu a vysvetleni proc prave
> takto.
>
> Jinak Brno klasika U Kormidla 18:00. Zamluvim.
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017

[Ladislav Nesnera]

ehm ehm  - Pod reálnou lípou

  
;?


On 22.5.2017 12:59, Marián Kyral wrote:
> BTW:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno - *Brno* is a city in the
> Czech Republic  at
> latitude 49°12′00″ North, longitude 16°36′00″ East.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ostrava - *Ostrava* je velkoměsto
> (Czech Republic )
> na zem. šířce 49°50′10″ severně a zem. délce 18°17′35″ východně.
>
> Neměli bychom vygenerovat Cs:Ostrava? Dalibore? :-D
>
> A ty zápisy by možná bylo lepší dávat tady:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kvart%C3%A1ln%C3%AD_pivo
> Udělat českou verzi a tam to průběžně doplňovat. Nebo alespoň doplnit
> odkazy na jednotlivá města.
>
> Marián
>
>
>
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Tom Ka 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 22. 5. 2017 11:49:11
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
>
>
> upravil jsem kalendar - Brno jsem udelal odkaz na
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brno/Setk%C3%A1n%C3%AD i kdyz se
> ta, ted nic nezapisovalo... Ale jako misto pro zapis co se delo to
> neni asi uplne spatne kdyz se toho nekdo ujme :-)
>
> Bye
>
> Dne 19. května 2017 11:35 Marián Kyral  napsal(a):
> > Přidal jsem. Ale nějakou tu wiki stránku by to chtělo.
> Popřemýšlím, ale teď
> > nebude vůbec čas.
> >
> > Marián
> >
> > -- Původní e-mail --
> > Od: Michal Fabík 
> > Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> > Datum: 19. 5. 2017 9:58:05
> > Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
> >
> >
> > 2017-05-19 9:02 GMT+02:00 Pavel Zbytovský :
> >
> > Napsal jsem o tom větičku na osmap.cz/komunita
> >
> >
> > Ahoj, co takhle to přidat i sem:
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events ? Kdyby třeba
> zrovna jel
> > okolo nějaký mapper z ciziny...
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michal Fabík
> >
> > 2017-05-19 9:02 GMT+02:00 Pavel Zbytovský :
> >
> > Napsal jsem o tom větičku na osmap.cz/komunita
> >
> > Též tam odkazuju na spredsheet, kde bychom mohli dávat aktuální
> informace +
> > zapisovat kdo přijde.
> > Myslím, že je fajn to mít na jednom místě, abychom navzájem tak
> tušili kdo
> > je kde aktivní.
> >
> > Viz - zapište prosím účast:
> >
> 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12zGtW414R9se_g_87FdmpHj2B6xO1gf5mG94avTmFb4/edit#gid=1985830819
> >
> > P.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:41 AM Michal Fabík
> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Ahoj, taky bych se přidal.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michal Fabík
> >
> > 2017-05-18 10:09 GMT+02:00 Tom Ka :
> >
> > Dne 18. května 2017 7:30 Pavel Zbytovský 
> napsal(a):
> >> Dík za připomenutí, jak se to vlastně počítá? První středa v
> měsíci?
> >
> > Zkus pohledat v archivu VOPovo stanoveni terminu a vysvetleni
> proc prave
> > takto.
> >
> > Jinak Brno klasika U Kormidla 18:00. Zamluvim.
> >
> >
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Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017

[Marián Kyral]

Tak nakonec to dopadlo tak, že budu v Praze. Tak snad se to povede v září.

Marián

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Datum: 17. 5. 2017 11:16:24
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"já bych za Ostravu přidal...:-)

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Datum: 17. 5. 2017 10:49:22
Předmět: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 06/2017
"Ahoj,
ten minisraz v Brně mi připomněl, že se pomalu blíží další kvartální pivo.
Jestli se nemýlím, tak by mělo proběhnout ve středu 7.6.2017. Když tak mně
opravte.

Já zatím nevím, jestli budu v Praze nebo v Ostravě.  Pokud by se povedla
Ostrava, tak bych si zkusil zařídit, že budu v Ostravě, jinak asi Praha.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Adam Snape]

The replies so far seem to favour altering the tag to alt_name or loc_name.
If there are no more responses I'll go ahead and change it accordingly.

The Mancunian Way is another named motorway. I've just noticed that the
Preston Bypass (part of the M6) is also named in OSM. It is inarguable that
was the name used at the time of the road's opening, but it's seldom
referred to as such these days. Do we think it would be better changed to
old_name or official_name?

Adam

On 31 May 2017 at 20:09, Philip Barnes  wrote:

> On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 20:02 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> > On 31 May 2017 at 18:38, Philip Barnes  wrote:
> >
> > > Motorways in the UK do no have names
> >
> > I'll bear that in mind, the next time I'm driving down the Aston
> > Expressway:
> >
> >https://www.gov.uk/government/news/full-closures-of-a38m-aston-exp
> > ressway-and-m6-junction-6-this-weekend
> >
>
> I had forgotten that one :)
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[Talk-us] State of the Map US 2017 Call for Ideas and Tickets!

[Ian Dees]

Hi everyone!

As you may have heard, State of the Map US 2017 will be held in Boulder,
Colorado this year over the weekend of October 19-22nd. Check out our
website (https://2017.stateofthemap.us/) for more information.

Pick up your reduced-cost early bird ticket now:

https://ti.to/osmus/state-of-the-map-us-2017

While you're at it, consider submitting ideas for talks, presentations, or
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Re: [Talk-hr] OSM meetup 2017-06-07

[Borut Maricic]

Kad bi bio petak 09.06., eventualno bih stigao doći i ja -
pretežno nisam u Zagrebu. (Stvarno nije od nekog značaja,
ali eto, da ipak napišem.)

2017-05-30 11:30:13 hbogner (hbogner+n...@gmail.com):

> U srijedu 07.06.2017. u 18:00, pivnica Zlatni Medo, Savska cesta 56.
> Nalazimo se na druženju uz pivo,vino,čaj, kavu ili napitak po želji.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Philip Barnes]

On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 20:02 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> On 31 May 2017 at 18:38, Philip Barnes  wrote:
> 
> > Motorways in the UK do no have names
> 
> I'll bear that in mind, the next time I'm driving down the Aston
> Expressway:
> 
>    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/full-closures-of-a38m-aston-exp
> ressway-and-m6-junction-6-this-weekend
> 

I had forgotten that one :)

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Authorization request for use of SPW data (PICC, orthophotos and others) and OSM representative

[Thomas Bertels]

Le 31/05/2017 à 08:04, joost schouppe a écrit :

HI Thomas,

Thank you for taking this effort. For some it is extremely clear that 
we can use SPW datasets, for others it is extremely clear we can not. 
If the SPW are willing to officialise this, than we can step beyond 
the doubt and the divisive discussions.


Since a few months, we have a membership and a board at OpenStreetMap 
Belgium. Ben Abelshausen, Jonathan Belien and myself are on that 
board. Ben is also our representative with Open Knowledge. So any of 
us would be good if they want an "official representative". I would 
definitely be willing to help out. I live near Brussels. Jonathan is a 
real Bruxeleer, so it would be nice if we can meet there.
We can ask Dries at OpenKnowledge for a little help if SPW prefers 
talking to them directly.


 That's great! Vincent Bombaerts actually suggested that, though I 
wasn't sure you'd be willing to.


I hope some people from the Walloon side can join too.

That said, I wonder if they really understand the implications of our 
ODbL license. They can make a kind of contract with us, but that 
implies that all the data we generate based on that contract are 
exempt from the contract. If vector data would be included in such 
arrangement, someone could theoretically import all that data into 
OSM, after which anyone can use it for anything under the ODbL license.


That's exactly the kind of thing you'll be able to talk about.
However, I don't understand what vector data you talk about. From what I 
know, the SPW data is in raster format, and it seems we can vectorize it 
(trace).
And like André said, we don't copy the data, we consult it (= trace it 
or what I meant by using it).


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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Andy Mabbett]

On 31 May 2017 at 18:38, Philip Barnes  wrote:

> Motorways in the UK do no have names

I'll bear that in mind, the next time I'm driving down the Aston Expressway:

   
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/full-closures-of-a38m-aston-expressway-and-m6-junction-6-this-weekend

-- 
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Authorization request for use of SPW data (PICC, orthophotos and others) and OSM representative

[Thomas Bertels]

Le 31/05/2017 à 00:39, André Pirard a écrit :
What is the need to contact all those people after a SPW lawyer made 
the situation clear?

To get an explicit authorization, like I said.
Following that, I've been on the phone with him and he told me that, 
like many already know, we can use the data from the SPW for OSM.

Not at all.
For anyone having understood the terms of the SPW that are clarified 
in my "YES we can trace the PICC" message, we are not allowed to use 
(copy) the (vector) data of the PICC but we are allowed to trace the 
images of the WMS et al. services.

By "using" I meant tracing while using the data as as background.
I also talked about the buildings numbers from PICC, which make it much 
easier to add building address details in OSM.
I had been requesting authorization for PICC and orthophotos, but he 
told me that there are other potentially useful data like MNT 
 
(relief) and others.


However, since I'd been asking for an explicit authorization (needed 
for integration into the iD editor), he told me that the 
authorization contract templates they've got require an organization. 
Probably because the data is free of the associations without 
lucrative purpose.
First, I strongly discourage using ID and Potlatch. This is what has 
led to highly imprecise Wallonia tagging as well as introducing 
tagging errors over the years.  All that work has to be redone with 
correction.
Please use the PICC with JOSM to achieve a 25 cm precision excellent 
tagging.
I don't understand, why does JOSM allow a higher precision? Because we 
can manually correct the background offset?
But if it's that, I wonder how you correct the background offset down to 
25 cm. Do you have a professional GPS receiver? Standard GPS devices are 
only down to 3 meters.
Anyway, users will still use iD, so providing them with a better imagery 
is a good thing in my opinion.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Paul Sladen]

On Wed, 31 May 2017, Philip Barnes wrote:
> these have been removed as there is no evidence of them existing.

Lets remind ourselves how we map from scratch (before signs):

  1. We measure + record what we see on the ground

  2. We ask local humans to supply the names/numbers/dates


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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Philip Barnes]

On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:44 +0100, Adam Snape wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> But we do.include local names which are neither official nor signed.
> There is at least some inconsistency in application of the
> verifiability criteria.
> 
> 

Local names are one thing, this could be moved to loc_name if there is
any evidence that it is widely used, but it should certainly be removed
from the name tag forthwith, this could cause serious confusion for map
users if they are told to take "Walton Summit Motorway".

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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Jez Nicholson]

'local knowledge'?

On Wed, 31 May 2017 18:39 Philip Barnes,  wrote:

> On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:29 +0100, Adam Snape wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > "Is it signed as such?"
> >
> > No. No signed or official name.
>
> We have had issues with other mappers adding made up fantasy
> descriptive names to motorways and trunk roads, these have been removed
> as there is no evidence of them existing. This should go the same way.
>
> Motorways in the UK do no have names and OSM is not the place for this,
> we map what really exists and is verifiable.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Adam Snape]

Hi,

But we do.include local names which are neither official nor signed. There
is at least some inconsistency in application of the verifiability criteria.

Adam

On 31 May 2017 6:38 p.m., "Philip Barnes"  wrote:

> On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:29 +0100, Adam Snape wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > "Is it signed as such?"
> >
> > No. No signed or official name.
>
> We have had issues with other mappers adding made up fantasy
> descriptive names to motorways and trunk roads, these have been removed
> as there is no evidence of them existing. This should go the same way.
>
> Motorways in the UK do no have names and OSM is not the place for this,
> we map what really exists and is verifiable.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Dan S]

2017-05-31 18:38 GMT+01:00 Philip Barnes :
> On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:29 +0100, Adam Snape wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> "Is it signed as such?"
>>
>> No. No signed or official name.
>
> We have had issues with other mappers adding made up fantasy
> descriptive names to motorways and trunk roads, these have been removed
> as there is no evidence of them existing. This should go the same way.
>
> Motorways in the UK do no have names and OSM is not the place for this,
> we map what really exists and is verifiable.

There are two different cases to distinguish here.
(1) unofficial names for which scant or no evidence can be found
(2) unofficial names which are widely known to locals and often fairly
easy to find documentary support for in web searches, talking to
locals, etc.
The latter are verifiable IMHO and are valuable information to have in
OSM. The biggest issue is that there's usually very little way to
decide what the spatial extent of these things should be labelled as.

Dan

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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Philip Barnes]

On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:29 +0100, Adam Snape wrote:
> Hi
> 
> "Is it signed as such?"
> 
> No. No signed or official name. 

We have had issues with other mappers adding made up fantasy
descriptive names to motorways and trunk roads, these have been removed
as there is no evidence of them existing. This should go the same way.

Motorways in the UK do no have names and OSM is not the place for this,
we map what really exists and is verifiable.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Adam Snape]

Hi

"Is it signed as such?"

No. No signed or official name.

Adam

On 31 May 2017 5:15 p.m., "Derick Rethans"  wrote:

> On Wed, 31 May 2017, Adam Snape wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway to a local
> > stretch of motorway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4720086 . The
> > motorway is officially unnamed like most motorways but this pretty
> unusual
> > stretch is known amongst road enthusiasts by the descriptive name
> "Walton
> > Summit Motorway" (see
> > https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=
> Walton_Summit_Motorway
> > and http://pathetic.org.uk/secretive/walton_summit_motorway/). The new
> > mapper isn't the first to have added this name, but it was
> > subsequently removed.
> >
> > Should we tag such unofficial names which do have some level of use in
> OSM.
> > We do, after all, tag local names.  If we are to include it how is best?
> > The main name tag seems wrong, loc_name would seem closest but also
> > probably wrong.
>
> Is it signed as such?
>
> cheers,
> Derick
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college

[joost schouppe]

>
> Jo nous a expliqué qu'on écrit en flamand quand le problème est flamand
> mais c'est souvent loin d'être le cas.
> Pourquoi ne pas fournir une traduction plutôt que de demander à 100
> personnes d'en faire une?
>

Pour moi, le plus important est que chaque personne peut s'exprimer
librement. Il s'agit plutot de "guidelines" que des regles strictes, non?

J'aime bien la filosofie general dans la comunauté OSM de resoudre les
problemes plutot que se plaindre des problemes. Donc ici la traduction:

"I believe school is the best solution in Belgium. In one school, there can
be both professional [secondary] education, as well as "general secondary
education". According to Wikipedia, "college" means a lecture at a
university. If you google "beroepsonderwijs in college" [secondary
professional education in college], you'll always get to a Dutch school, so
there it could in fact be "college".

(it's an attempt, because terms like ASO are hard to translate)
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Re: [Talk-se] Strange ( or wrong?) admin boundaries in Sweden

[Walter Nordmann]

Ignoring them is ok for me, because i think that those AL3-"Boundaries" 
are no *admin* boundaries.


Because Erik wrote: "Ture said really aren't administrative boundaries 
anyway. They are just a convenient and common way to divide in Sweden in 
3 or 4 reasonably large chunks"


And if they aren't admin boundaries,  you (sweden) should not tag them 
as boundary=administrative. If you agree, change it - if not, i don't 
have a probem.


Regard
walter


Am 31.05.2017 um 14:21 schrieb Erik Johansson:

I think you might be thinking of borders in the wrong way though,
there are very few borders that match up like this (in the grand
scheme of governments).



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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Paul Sladen]

On Wed, 31 May 2017, Adam Snape wrote:
> A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway
> Should we tag such unofficial names
> The main name tag seems wrong, loc_name would seem closest but also
> probably wrong.

I tend to think of 'loc_name=' as meaning "col-LOQ-uial name",
which seems appropriate in the circumstances.

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Subject: Re: [Talk-dk] Stations-krig.
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HaCon er det firma, der laver tidsplan software for Deutsche Bundesbahn
.. og som det ser ud til også DSB nu.

/M


On 31/05/17 15:29, Michael Andersen wrote:
> On onsdag den 31. maj 2017 16.06.12 CEST Michel Coene wrote:
>> Og diskussionen har lige fået et mere akademisk natur:  prøv rejseplanen.dk.
>> De bruger nu OSM som kort (hurra!) men de bruger en renderer som tegner
>> hverken perroner eller s-tog linjer
>> Michel
> Wow, siger jeg bare :-)
>
> De tiles (kortet/renderingen) Rejseplanen bruger ser ud til at komme fra et 
> tysk firma
> (nederst på kortet står der "Imagery © HaCon[1]")
>
> Måske det kunne være værd at gøre Rejseplanen opmærksom på denne her lille
> "smutter". Perroner er jo trods en væsentlig detalje i denne sammenhæng :-)
>
> Mvh http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Hjart
>
>
> 
> [1] http://hacon.de
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 16:37:52 +0200
From: Niels Elgaard Larsen <elga...@agol.dk>
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På Wed, 31 May 2017 09:21:56 +0200
Michel Coene <michel.co...@gmail.com> skrev:
> Jeg er enig med besværet at lime en område til en vej.  Jeg gør det
> kun hvis begge to hænger fuldstændig sammen og er nemme at erstatte,

Jeg er som Andreas også irriteret  når jeg skal rette veje der er limet
sammen med områder. Men hvis der er det rigtige at gøre, så er det
vores værktøjer, som skal forbedres.

Og nogen gange giver det mening at lime områder til veje.

Hvis en kommune eller landegrænse faktisk er defineret til at være en
vej eller et vandløb, så skal vi ikke opfinde halvanden meter
ingenmandsland.

Hvis man nu har en markvej, hvor landmanden på den en side sår hvede og
på den anden side sår havre og man gerne vil tagge dem som forskellige
marker, så ville jeg lime dem til markvejen.
For hvis man ikke gør det, hvad er der så mellem vejen og markerne? Og
hvordan kommer man fra vejen og ind på markerne. Hvis landmandens
traktor bruger Openstreetmap, så ved den, at den kan køre på på
markveje og den ved, at den kan køre på markerne og den har fået til
opgave at køre ind og sprøjte på hvedemarken. Men hvor kan den køre ind
på marken? For den kan jo ikke bare køre ind over en halv meter utagget
område. Der kunne være en grøft.

Hvis der derimod er noget græs på begge sider af markvejen, så kan man
lave et smal areal med græs, som markvejen ligger indeni.

Hvis man har et torv, fx tagget som highway=pedestrian,area=yes så må
det ikke bare være en ø. Det skal forbindes til de omgivende veje af
hensyn til rutning. Hvis torvet på nogen af siderne bare støder op til
en vej, hvor man hvorsomhelst kan gå fra vejen og ind på torvet, så
limer jeg det sammen her.

Som vi har diskuteret før så skal parkeringspladser ikke dele knuder med
vejnettet. Men vejene skal indenfor parkingspladsens område af hensyn
til rutning. Det eneste tilfælde, hvor jeg kan finde på at dele
knuder er de steder hvor der er en vej med parkeri

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Derick Rethans]

On Wed, 31 May 2017, Adam Snape wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway to a local
> stretch of motorway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4720086 . The
> motorway is officially unnamed like most motorways but this pretty unusual
> stretch is known amongst road enthusiasts by the descriptive name  "Walton
> Summit Motorway" (see
> https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Walton_Summit_Motorway
> and http://pathetic.org.uk/secretive/walton_summit_motorway/). The new
> mapper isn't the first to have added this name, but it was
> subsequently removed.
> 
> Should we tag such unofficial names which do have some level of use in OSM.
> We do, after all, tag local names.  If we are to include it how is best?
> The main name tag seems wrong, loc_name would seem closest but also
> probably wrong.

Is it signed as such?

cheers,
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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Dan S]

I'd imagine it's unusual but I don't see why not. Just my 2p, of course

2017-05-31 17:12 GMT+01:00 Adam Snape :
> Hi Dan,
>
> Thanks, I hadn't considered that one. Is it okay to use an alt_name tag on a
> road without an actual proper name?
>
> Adam
>
> On 31 May 2017 at 17:09, Dan S  wrote:
>>
>> alt_name?
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:alt_name
>>
>> 2017-05-31 17:01 GMT+01:00 Adam Snape :
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway to a
>> > local
>> > stretch of motorway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4720086 . The
>> > motorway
>> > is officially unnamed like most motorways but this pretty unusual
>> > stretch is
>> > known amongst road enthusiasts by the descriptive name  "Walton Summit
>> > Motorway" (see
>> >
>> > https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Walton_Summit_Motorway
>> > and http://pathetic.org.uk/secretive/walton_summit_motorway/). The new
>> > mapper isn't the first to have added this name, but it was subsequently
>> > removed.
>> >
>> > Should we tag such unofficial names which do have some level of use in
>> > OSM.
>> > We do, after all, tag local names.  If we are to include it how is best?
>> > The
>> > main name tag seems wrong, loc_name would seem closest but also probably
>> > wrong.
>> >
>> > Any help appreciated
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Adam Snape]

Hi Dan,

Thanks, I hadn't considered that one. Is it okay to use an alt_name tag on
a road without an actual proper name?

Adam

On 31 May 2017 at 17:09, Dan S  wrote:

> alt_name?
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:alt_name
>
> 2017-05-31 17:01 GMT+01:00 Adam Snape :
> > Hi,
> >
> > A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway to a local
> > stretch of motorway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4720086 . The
> motorway
> > is officially unnamed like most motorways but this pretty unusual
> stretch is
> > known amongst road enthusiasts by the descriptive name  "Walton Summit
> > Motorway" (see
> > https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=
> Walton_Summit_Motorway
> > and http://pathetic.org.uk/secretive/walton_summit_motorway/). The new
> > mapper isn't the first to have added this name, but it was subsequently
> > removed.
> >
> > Should we tag such unofficial names which do have some level of use in
> OSM.
> > We do, after all, tag local names.  If we are to include it how is best?
> The
> > main name tag seems wrong, loc_name would seem closest but also probably
> > wrong.
> >
> > Any help appreciated
> >
> > Adam
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Dan S]

alt_name?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:alt_name

2017-05-31 17:01 GMT+01:00 Adam Snape :
> Hi,
>
> A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway to a local
> stretch of motorway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4720086 . The motorway
> is officially unnamed like most motorways but this pretty unusual stretch is
> known amongst road enthusiasts by the descriptive name  "Walton Summit
> Motorway" (see
> https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Walton_Summit_Motorway
> and http://pathetic.org.uk/secretive/walton_summit_motorway/). The new
> mapper isn't the first to have added this name, but it was subsequently
> removed.
>
> Should we tag such unofficial names which do have some level of use in OSM.
> We do, after all, tag local names.  If we are to include it how is best? The
> main name tag seems wrong, loc_name would seem closest but also probably
> wrong.
>
> Any help appreciated
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [Talk-cz] vetrelci a volavky

[Pavel Cvrček]

Ahoj,

nabízím v této souvislosti data našeho projektu Křížky a vetřelci (
http://krizkyavetrelci.plzne.cz/), který mapuje drobné umění v Plzni. Něco
málo jsem už přidal, pokud by to chtěl někdo systematicky importovat, mohu
připravit export podle požadavku.

Ještě je tu web Drobné památky (http://www.drobnepamatky.cz/), který
provozuje můj známý, velký fanda map a nebude mít nic proti použití na OSM.
Více než 13 000 drobných památek IMHO stojí za to.

Zdraví

Pavel

Dne 30. května 2017 16:42 Jakub Podlaha  napsal(a):

> Dobry den, Ahoj,
> chtel jsem do OSMcz pridat sochy v parku Folimanka. Pritom jsem objevil
> stranky projektu Vetrelci a Volavky, ktery vlastni rozsahlou mapu
> takovychto objektu v CR a SR . Rad
> bych je kontaktoval, zda by bylo mozne jejich data ziskat a po nejake te
> uprave je nahrat do OSM. Nez napisu jim, chtel bych vedet, zda je o toto
> vubec zajem ze strany OSMcz. Nemam s tim zatim zkusennost a prijde mi to
> jako dobry projekt na zapracovani se, i tak bych uvital pripadnou pomocnou
> ruku pri samotne priprave importu, pokud bude potreba.
>
> Zdar,
> Prema
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[Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

[Adam Snape]

Hi,

A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway to a local
stretch of motorway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4720086 . The
motorway is officially unnamed like most motorways but this pretty unusual
stretch is known amongst road enthusiasts by the descriptive name  "Walton
Summit Motorway" (see
https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Walton_Summit_Motorway
and http://pathetic.org.uk/secretive/walton_summit_motorway/). The new
mapper isn't the first to have added this name, but it was
subsequently removed.

Should we tag such unofficial names which do have some level of use in OSM.
We do, after all, tag local names.  If we are to include it how is best?
The main name tag seems wrong, loc_name would seem closest but also
probably wrong.

Any help appreciated

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[Talk-dk] Kort på rejseplan

[Michel Coene]

Kære rejseplan,

Jeg har set jeres nyt design på Rejseplan.dk.  Tillykke!
I bruger Openstreetmap som underliggende kort og der har jeg set noget
mærkeligt:
I den version I bruger bliver hverken stationens perroner eller S-tog
linjer tegnet.
Du kan prøve at sammenligne et enkelt og åben S-tog station som for
eksempel Islev, hvor du kan finde "originalen" her:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/586436631#map=18/55.69882/12.47017

Som benytter af det frie Openstreetmap kan I selvfølgeligt få det lige som
I vil have det.
Jeg vil bare gerne være sikkert at det er meningen, og ikke bare en lille
svipser af jeres underleverandør.

Jeg har sæt på CC den mailing-liste som bliver læst af mange frivilligere
som er med til at tegne kortet.  I er altid velkommen at skrive til os hvis
I har specifikke ønsker om hvordan stationerne skal tegnes.  Vi prøver at
lytte.  ;-)

-- 
Michel Coene
Georginehaven 94
Dk-2765 Smørum

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Re: [OSRM-talk] OSRM Router Driving

[jca]

Hello Michael,

Thank you for your quick answer. I'll check this issue.

Regards,

Julien

Le 2017-05-31 17:37, Michael Krasnyk a écrit :

Hello Julien,

https://router.project-osrm.org
  runs the master 
branch
of https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/ that has a problem 
right
now documented as 
https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/4100


The demo server will be up again as soon as the issue will be fixed.

Kind regards,
Michael



On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 5:30 PM,  wrote:


Hello,

I would like to know if it's normal to have a 504 error when I want to 
use

the API https://router.project-osrm.org/route/v1/driving/ . Is this
temporary?

Regard,

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Re: [Talk-dk] Stations-krig.

[Michel Coene]

Jeg kontakter Rejseplanen og sender et venligt besked.
Michel

2017-05-31 16:37 GMT+02:00 Niels Elgaard Larsen :

> På Wed, 31 May 2017 09:21:56 +0200
> Michel Coene  skrev:
> > Jeg er enig med besværet at lime en område til en vej.  Jeg gør det
> > kun hvis begge to hænger fuldstændig sammen og er nemme at erstatte,
>
> Jeg er som Andreas også irriteret  når jeg skal rette veje der er limet
> sammen med områder. Men hvis der er det rigtige at gøre, så er det
> vores værktøjer, som skal forbedres.
>
> Og nogen gange giver det mening at lime områder til veje.
>
> Hvis en kommune eller landegrænse faktisk er defineret til at være en
> vej eller et vandløb, så skal vi ikke opfinde halvanden meter
> ingenmandsland.
>
> Hvis man nu har en markvej, hvor landmanden på den en side sår hvede og
> på den anden side sår havre og man gerne vil tagge dem som forskellige
> marker, så ville jeg lime dem til markvejen.
> For hvis man ikke gør det, hvad er der så mellem vejen og markerne? Og
> hvordan kommer man fra vejen og ind på markerne. Hvis landmandens
> traktor bruger Openstreetmap, så ved den, at den kan køre på på
> markveje og den ved, at den kan køre på markerne og den har fået til
> opgave at køre ind og sprøjte på hvedemarken. Men hvor kan den køre ind
> på marken? For den kan jo ikke bare køre ind over en halv meter utagget
> område. Der kunne være en grøft.
>
> Hvis der derimod er noget græs på begge sider af markvejen, så kan man
> lave et smal areal med græs, som markvejen ligger indeni.
>
> Hvis man har et torv, fx tagget som highway=pedestrian,area=yes så må
> det ikke bare være en ø. Det skal forbindes til de omgivende veje af
> hensyn til rutning. Hvis torvet på nogen af siderne bare støder op til
> en vej, hvor man hvorsomhelst kan gå fra vejen og ind på torvet, så
> limer jeg det sammen her.
>
> Som vi har diskuteret før så skal parkeringspladser ikke dele knuder med
> vejnettet. Men vejene skal indenfor parkingspladsens område af hensyn
> til rutning. Det eneste tilfælde, hvor jeg kan finde på at dele
> knuder er de steder hvor der er en vej med parkeringsbåse på kun
> den ene side.
> For jeg vil ikke lave en fiktiv highway=parking_aisle ind i
> parkeringområdet, når det klart ses, at båsene går helt ud til vejen og
> man ikke kan køre der, når båsene er optaget. Og jeg bryder mig heller
> ikke om at tegne parkeringsarealet om på den anden side af vejen, når
> man nu ikke kan parkere på den side.
>
> Jernbanelinier er ikke bare en simpel linie.
> De har en sporbredde på 1435 mm, hvis man ikke sætter gauge til
> noget andet. Men det, vi tagger er måske mere et tracé. Der findes
> standarder for fritrumsprofiler og perroner for tog.
> Så man kan vel godt sige, at sporet går helt hen til perronen.
> At der ikke findes nogen mellem perronen og sporet.
>
>
>
>
> > for eksempel en 3 punkts indkørsel til en 5 punkts farmyard. Når man
> > laver det ene om så er der 90% sandsyndelighed at den anden også skal
> > laves om.  Jeg mener at det er tilfælde her.  Det er ikke så tit
> > jernbaner laves om, og hvis de gør skal hele stationen med garanti
> > tegnes om alligevel.  Man flytter jo ikke en jernbane en halv meter
> > til venstre som del af vedligeholdelse.
> >
> > For resten er det mere et spørgsmål om hvad men skal bruge det til?
> > Hvis jeg ønsker at vide hvor bred perronen er, så kigger jeg på et
> > luft foto, ikke på et kort.  Et kort er et funktionelt værktøj, og jo
> > flere linjer jo større "spaghetti-ficeringen".
> > Hvis du kigger på Carlsberg station så vil du se at skinnerne ikke
> > perfekt følger perronens rand.  Det er som om jernbanen nærmer og
> > fjerner sig fra perronen.  Det kan ikke være med at skabe et tydelig
> > overblik.  Man kan selvfølgeligt gå ind og rette på det, men det
> > synes er *virkeligt* at gøre sig selv livet besværligt.
> > Michel
> >
> >
> > 2017-05-31 8:33 GMT+02:00 Andreas Hammershøj :
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2017-05-30 21:51 GMT+02:00 Michael Andersen :
> > >
> > >> On søndag den 28. maj 2017 11.01.17 CEST Michel Coene wrote:
> > >> > Hej alle,
> > >> >
> > >> > Jeg har i det sidste tilføjet lidt detaljer til S-tog nettet. Så
> > >> > gør jeg det at for meget enkle S-tog stationer så "limer" jeg
> > >> > perronen til skinnerne. Eksempel: Islev station.  Jeg kan i
> > >> > øvrigt se at jeg ikke er
> > >> den
> > >> > eneste som bruger denne teknik. Jeg gør det fordi jeg synes det
> > >> > ser
> > >> mindre
> > >> > "rodet" ud (og det er uafhængig af hvilken renderer man bruger),
> > >> > og
> > >> fordi
> > >> > det rent funktionelt også passer: perronen ligger opad
> > >> > skinnerne, og man bruger perronen til at komme med på
> > >> > skinnerne.
> > >>
> > >> Jeg oplever det i høj grad som netop "rodet"/uordentligt når jeg
> > >> ser perroner
> > >> "limet" på skinner. Hvis nu skinnerne var defineret som et
> > >> område/polygon kunne
> > >> jeg følge dig, men nu definerer vi dem jo 

Re: [OSRM-talk] OSRM Router Driing

[Michael Krasnyk]

Hello Julien,

https://router.project-osrm.org
  runs the master branch
of https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/ that has a problem right
now documented as https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/4100

The demo server will be up again as soon as the issue will be fixed.

Kind regards,
Michael



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> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if it's normal to have a 504 error when I want to use
> the API https://router.project-osrm.org/route/v1/driving/ . Is this
> temporary?
>
> Regard,
>
> Julien
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[OSRM-talk] OSRM Router Driing

[jca]

Hello,

I would like to know if it's normal to have a 504 error when I want to 
use the API https://router.project-osrm.org/route/v1/driving/ . Is this 
temporary?


Regard,

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[Talk-in] Short names and brand:wikidata tags for Banks

[Srihari Thalla]

It is recommended to add short names and brand:wikidata tags for Banks.
Short names will enable Nominatim to search when short names are queried.
Additionally, website and wikipedia tags would be useful.

Here is a list of short names for banks I could think of. Please suggest
any others!

- BoB
- BoI
- HDFC
- ICICI
- IDBI
- IOB
- KVB
- OBC
- PNB
- RBL
- SBI

For reference, here is a list of banks in the country -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Banks_of_India
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college

[André Pirard]

On 2017-05-31 15:10, Guy Vanvuchelen wrote:
> Volgens mij is 'school'voor België de beste oplossing. In één school kunnen 
> immers meerdere afdelingen zijn: beroepsonderwijs, maar ook ASO. Als je 
> Wikipedia zou volgen is 'college' een klassikale les krijgen aan een 
> universiteit. Als je googled naar 'beroepsonderwijs in college' kom je 
> gegarandeerd op een Nederlandse school terecht, dus daar kan het wel 
> 'college' zijn. 
> GuyVV
> Je pense est school'voor Belgique, la meilleure solution. Dans une
> école plusieurs ministères peuvent en effet être: professionnel, mais
> ASO. Si vous suivez « collège » Wikipedia recevoir une formation en
> classe dans une université. Si vous googlé pour « l'enseignement
> professionnel au collège » vous garanti une école néerlandaise à juste
> titre comme il peut être « collège » est.
> > GuyVV
???
Jo nous a expliqué qu'on écrit en flamand quand le problème est flamand
mais c'est souvent loin d'être le cas.
Pourquoi ne pas fournir une traduction plutôt que de demander à 100
personnes d'en faire une?

De quel tag s'agit-il exactement?
"college" signifie enseignement supérieur en anglais.
Comme il y a de gros problèmes de correspondance de termes, même avec la
France, pourquoi ne pas utiliser "collège:BE" ou, encore mieux s'il le
faut, "collège:BE:fr"?
En plus de "school", évidement.

Which tag is it exactly?
"College" means higher education in English.
As there are big problems of aanpassing of terms, even with France, why
not use "collège:BE" or, better still if needed, "collège:BE:fr"?
In addition to "school", obviously.

Welke tag is het precies?
"College" betekent het hoger onderwijs in het Engels.
Omdat er grote correspondance problemen zijn, zelfs met Frankrijk,
waarom niet "collège:BE" gebruiken of, nog beter, indien nodig,
"collège:BE:fr"?
Naast "school", natuurlijk.

Cheers

André.


> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com] 
> Verzonden: woensdag 31 mei 2017 5:16
> Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium
> Onderwerp: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college
>
> A Dutch mapper changed the "Hoe map ik een" school the other day.[1]
> The original discussion leading to the change can be found here: [2]
> in Dutch and with a lot of acronyms specific for The Netherlands.
>
> Do we want to map "Middelbaar beroepsonderwijs." (L'enseignement
> secondaire professionnel ?) as college ? I would never have thought to
> map them as college, but I could be wrong.
>
>
> m.
>
>
> Een Nederlandse mapper heeft de sectie voor hoe map ik een school
> aangepast [1] naar aanleiding van een discussie op het Nederlandse
> forum [2]. Nu zouden we middelbaar beroepsonderwijs als college moeten
> mappen. Ik zou er nooit aan gedacht hebben dit zo te taggen,
> waarschijnlijk had ik gewoon school gebruikt. Ik heb het misschien bij
> het verkeerde eind. Wat denken jullie ervan ?
>
>
>
>
>
> [1] 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:NL:How_to_map_a:S=next=1390987
> [2] https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=57278
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Re: [Talk-es] Traducción bienvenida de OSM

[Ibai Gurrutxaga]

Hola.

A mí también me gusta más "datos basados en opiniones" que "datos
polémicos".

Ibai Gurrutxaga.


On 31/05/17 16:27, dcapillae wrote:
> Me suena mejor "datos basados en opiniones" que "datos polémicos". Además lo
> veo más ajustado al original. Ya se ha hablado del tema de los datos y las
> opiniones con anterioridad, así que no reabriré la cuestión. Si os gusta más
> la opción de "datos polémicos", adelante. Añadiéndole el ejemplo entre
> paréntesis, "datos polémicos (por ejemplo, valoraciones)", creo que se
> entiende igualmente bien a qué tipo de datos o informaciones nos estamos
> refiriendo.
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-dk] Stations-krig.

[Martin List-Petersen]

HaCon er det firma, der laver tidsplan software for Deutsche Bundesbahn 
.. og som det ser ud til også DSB nu.


/M


On 31/05/17 15:29, Michael Andersen wrote:

On onsdag den 31. maj 2017 16.06.12 CEST Michel Coene wrote:

Og diskussionen har lige fået et mere akademisk natur:  prøv rejseplanen.dk.
De bruger nu OSM som kort (hurra!) men de bruger en renderer som tegner
hverken perroner eller s-tog linjer
Michel

Wow, siger jeg bare :-)

De tiles (kortet/renderingen) Rejseplanen bruger ser ud til at komme fra et 
tysk firma
(nederst på kortet står der "Imagery © HaCon[1]")

Måske det kunne være værd at gøre Rejseplanen opmærksom på denne her lille
"smutter". Perroner er jo trods en væsentlig detalje i denne sammenhæng :-)

Mvh http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Hjart



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Re: [Talk-dk] Stations-krig.

[Michael Andersen]

On onsdag den 31. maj 2017 16.06.12 CEST Michel Coene wrote:
> Og diskussionen har lige fået et mere akademisk natur:  prøv rejseplanen.dk.
> De bruger nu OSM som kort (hurra!) men de bruger en renderer som tegner
> hverken perroner eller s-tog linjer
> Michel

Wow, siger jeg bare :-)

De tiles (kortet/renderingen) Rejseplanen bruger ser ud til at komme fra et 
tysk firma 
(nederst på kortet står der "Imagery © HaCon[1]")

Måske det kunne være værd at gøre Rejseplanen opmærksom på denne her lille 
"smutter". Perroner er jo trods en væsentlig detalje i denne sammenhæng :-)

Mvh http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Hjart



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Re: [Talk-es] Traducción bienvenida de OSM

[dcapillae]

Me suena mejor "datos basados en opiniones" que "datos polémicos". Además lo
veo más ajustado al original. Ya se ha hablado del tema de los datos y las
opiniones con anterioridad, así que no reabriré la cuestión. Si os gusta más
la opción de "datos polémicos", adelante. Añadiéndole el ejemplo entre
paréntesis, "datos polémicos (por ejemplo, valoraciones)", creo que se
entiende igualmente bien a qué tipo de datos o informaciones nos estamos
refiriendo.



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[Talk-GB] Birmingham City Council Tree Imports

[Brian Prangle]

Hi everyone

Cross post from talk import

I've been editing the already imported data to take on board some of the
comments made

1.height is now a numeral and the original data is now tagged as
height:range
2.usrn is now tagged as ref:usrn and documented in the wiki page

3.capital letters removed  from values for age tag

I'm proposing for the avioidance of doubt to change the tag form to
tree_form.

Regards

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Re: [Talk-dk] Stations-krig.

[Michael Andersen]

On onsdag den 31. maj 2017 09.21.56 CEST Michel Coene wrote:
> Jeg er enig med besværet at lime en område til en vej.  Jeg gør det kun
> hvis begge to hænger fuldstændig sammen og er nemme at erstatte, for
> eksempel en 3 punkts indkørsel til en 5 punkts farmyard. Når man laver det
> ene om så er der 90% sandsyndelighed at den anden også skal laves om.  Jeg
> mener at det er tilfælde her.  Det er ikke så tit jernbaner laves om, og
> hvis de gør skal hele stationen med garanti tegnes om alligevel.  Man
> flytter jo ikke en jernbane en halv meter til venstre som del af
> vedligeholdelse.
> 
> For resten er det mere et spørgsmål om hvad men skal bruge det til?  Hvis
> jeg ønsker at vide hvor bred perronen er, så kigger jeg på et luft foto,
> ikke på et kort.  Et kort er et funktionelt værktøj, og jo flere linjer jo
> større "spaghetti-ficeringen".
> Hvis du kigger på Carlsberg station så vil du se at skinnerne ikke perfekt
> følger perronens rand.  Det er som om jernbanen nærmer og fjerner sig fra
> perronen.  Det kan ikke være med at skabe et tydelig overblik.  Man kan
> selvfølgeligt gå ind og rette på det, men det synes er *virkeligt* at gøre
> sig selv livet besværligt.
> Michel
> 
> 2017-05-31 8:33 GMT+02:00 Andreas Hammershøj :
> > 2017-05-30 21:51 GMT+02:00 Michael Andersen :
> >> On søndag den 28. maj 2017 11.01.17 CEST Michel Coene wrote:
> >> > Hej alle,
> >> > 
> >> > Jeg har i det sidste tilføjet lidt detaljer til S-tog nettet. Så gør
> >> > jeg
> >> > det at for meget enkle S-tog stationer så "limer" jeg perronen til
> >> > skinnerne. Eksempel: Islev station.  Jeg kan i øvrigt se at jeg ikke er
> >> 
> >> den
> >> 
> >> > eneste som bruger denne teknik. Jeg gør det fordi jeg synes det ser
> >> 
> >> mindre
> >> 
> >> > "rodet" ud (og det er uafhængig af hvilken renderer man bruger), og
> >> 
> >> fordi
> >> 
> >> > det rent funktionelt også passer: perronen ligger opad skinnerne, og
> >> > man
> >> > bruger perronen til at komme med på skinnerne.
> >> 
> >> Jeg oplever det i høj grad som netop "rodet"/uordentligt når jeg ser
> >> perroner
> >> "limet" på skinner. Hvis nu skinnerne var defineret som et område/polygon
> >> kunne
> >> jeg følge dig, men nu definerer vi dem jo som en simpel linie og så synes
> >> jeg
> >> ikke det rigtig duer. Jeg vil helst have perroner etc liggende ved siden
> >> af
> >> skinnerne og ikke på dem.
> >> 
> >> Desuden er min erfaring indtil videre at folk med lignende ideer som du,
> >> i
> >> vidt omfang ikke synes at være særligt opmærksomme på at beskrive
> >> adgangsforholdene til perroner og toge, så de er funktionelle. Dette er
> >> dog
> >> også (som Niels også gør opmærksom på) noget som i mange tilfælde kræver
> >> en
> >> del overvejelser for at få til at lykkes.
> >> 
> >> Vær opmærksom på https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport
> >> %3Dstop_area
> >> 
> >> som bruges til at beskrive hvilke perroner der hører sammen med
> >> en given (tog) stop position (dvs hvilken perron man kommer ud på når man
> >> står
> >> af toget på en given station). Bemærk at wikisiden her kan virke noget
> >> teknisk
> >> og  sværtforståelig. Jeg kan evt holde et lille kursus for interesserede.
> >> 
> >> > Som eksempel hvor skinnerne ikke er "limet" fast kan du se det nye
> >> > Carlsberg S-tog station.
> >> > 
> >> > Nu kan jeg se at en anden bruger er gået i gang med at klippe dem løs
> >> > igen.  Jeg vil helst undgå en undo-krig og udfordrer derfor heller til
> >> > konstruktiv debat.  Jeg skal med det samme sige at jeg er enig
> >> > teknikken
> >> > ikke funker så godt i de mere komplekse stationer, for eksempel
> >> > Ballerup
> >> > hvor man kan stige ud af toget på begge sider samtidig.
> > 
> > Jeg har ikke brugt meget tid på jernbane i OSM, men jeg har tegnet en
> > hulens masse cykelruterelationer, som minder om tog-rute-relationer. Her
> > har jeg nogle gange været udsat for at zoneområder (fx area=residential)
> > eller marker har været limet til veje og stier. Det er enormt irriterende
> > at arbejde med når man skal vælge et stykke highway=X og hele tiden ender
> > med at få fat på hele marken eller zone-området. Jeg har flere gange været
> > nødt til at tegne større områder om.
> > 
> > Et andet eksempel hvor unødig sammenlimning kan være et problem er hvis
> > det ene af to sammenlimede elementer skal slettes eller ændres. I det
> > tilfælde vil man ofte være nødt til at tegne det blivende element forfra.
> > Konkret kunne det være en mark som var limet til en vej. Hvis marken
> > senere
> > skal bebygges og erstattes af et nyt område med construction=yes, så vil
> > det typisk kræve at også det pågældende vejstykke slettes.
> > 
> > Udover vejnettet, som i sagens natur skal være så sammenhængende som
> > muligt vil jeg altså opfordre til at man indtegner tingene hver for sig.
> > 
> > vh
> > /Andreas

I en forklaring til en anden 

Re: [OSRM-talk] nearest and driving services not working

[Daniel Hofmann]

I can't give you any guarantees there. Also leaving this here:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/wiki/Api-usage-policy

If you follow the directions above to set up a local routing engine you
will get the exact same behavior locally as you would get from the demo
server. This will hopefully unblock you by pointing your app to
localhost:5000 instead of router.project-osrm.org.

Hope that helps,
Daniel J H

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Shahab Ahmed 
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> Hi Daniel
>
> Thanks for your reply. I want to ask that how much time it will take for
> your server to start working again? because I have setup everything in my
> project and the only thing missing is routing from your servers.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Regards,
> Shahab
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Hofmann 
> wrote:
>
>> The demo server has some issues currently. Note that it's always running
>> the latest code as well as the latest planet.
>>
>> In the meantime you can either setup your own routing engine in a couple
>> of steps
>>
>> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend#quick-start
>>
>> or use services such as
>>
>> https://www.mapbox.com/directions/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel J H
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Shahab Ahmed 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>>
>>> I have problem that I cannot get response from your "*nearest routing
>>> service*" and "*Route Service*".
>>> Can you please solve this problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Shahab Ahmed
>>>
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Re: [OSRM-talk] nearest and driving services not working

[Shahab Ahmed]

Hi Daniel

Thanks for your reply. I want to ask that how much time it will take for
your server to start working again? because I have setup everything in my
project and the only thing missing is routing from your servers.

Thanks again

Regards,
Shahab

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Hofmann  wrote:

> The demo server has some issues currently. Note that it's always running
> the latest code as well as the latest planet.
>
> In the meantime you can either setup your own routing engine in a couple
> of steps
>
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend#quick-start
>
> or use services such as
>
> https://www.mapbox.com/directions/
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel J H
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Shahab Ahmed 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>
>> I have problem that I cannot get response from your "*nearest routing
>> service*" and "*Route Service*".
>> Can you please solve this problem?
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shahab Ahmed
>>
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Re: [OSRM-talk] nearest and driving services not working

[Daniel Hofmann]

The demo server has some issues currently. Note that it's always running
the latest code as well as the latest planet.

In the meantime you can either setup your own routing engine in a couple of
steps

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend#quick-start

or use services such as

https://www.mapbox.com/directions/

Cheers,
Daniel J H

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Shahab Ahmed 
wrote:

> Hello Ladies and Gentlemen,
>
> I have problem that I cannot get response from your "*nearest routing
> service*" and "*Route Service*".
> Can you please solve this problem?
>
>
>
> [image: Inline image 2]
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards,
> Shahab Ahmed
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college

[Guy Vanvuchelen]

Volgens mij is 'school'voor België de beste oplossing. In één school kunnen 
immers meerdere afdelingen zijn: beroepsonderwijs, maar ook ASO. Als je 
Wikipedia zou volgen is 'college' een klassikale les krijgen aan een 
universiteit. Als je googled naar 'beroepsonderwijs in college' kom je 
gegarandeerd op een Nederlandse school terecht, dus daar kan het wel 'college' 
zijn. 
GuyVV

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com] 
Verzonden: woensdag 31 mei 2017 5:16
Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium
Onderwerp: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college

A Dutch mapper changed the "Hoe map ik een" school the other day.[1]
The original discussion leading to the change can be found here: [2]
in Dutch and with a lot of acronyms specific for The Netherlands.

Do we want to map "Middelbaar beroepsonderwijs." (L'enseignement
secondaire professionnel ?) as college ? I would never have thought to
map them as college, but I could be wrong.


m.


Een Nederlandse mapper heeft de sectie voor hoe map ik een school
aangepast [1] naar aanleiding van een discussie op het Nederlandse
forum [2]. Nu zouden we middelbaar beroepsonderwijs als college moeten
mappen. Ik zou er nooit aan gedacht hebben dit zo te taggen,
waarschijnlijk had ik gewoon school gebruikt. Ik heb het misschien bij
het verkeerde eind. Wat denken jullie ervan ?





[1] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:NL:How_to_map_a:S=next=1390987
[2] https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=57278

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[OSRM-talk] nearest and driving services not working

[Shahab Ahmed]

Hello Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have problem that I cannot get response from your "*nearest routing
service*" and "*Route Service*".
Can you please solve this problem?



[image: Inline image 2]



Thanks

Regards,
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[OSM-talk-fr] onTracks.co - opportunité startup - Lead dev carto, symfony et objets connectés - Marseille

[Philippe Leca - onTracks]

Bonjour à toute la communauté !
onTracks est une startup qui développe une solution de guidage intuitive par le 
biais de 2 bracelets connectés.
Notre solution s’adresse aux amateurs de sport outdoor (running, VTT, rando, 
vélo route) mais aussi à des cyclistes ou des motards en ville.

Nous recherchons un lead développeur web qui aura des connaissances en 
cartographie, mais également en Symfony et en électronique.
Il devra aussi être capable de gérer une équipe de développeurs sur plateformes 
mobiles (iOS et Android). 
Nous sommes basés à Marseille 13008.

Si vous êtes intéressés par une aventure startup dans le monde du sport et de 
l'IoT, merci de nous contacter à l’adresse suivante :
j...@ontracks.co

onTracks official trailer :
https://youtu.be/3PJX7lWeU-w

philippe

Philippe Leca
onTracks
CEO Founder

onTracks.co

BFM Business présente onTracks : 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] vergers conservatoires

[Eric Brosselin - Osm]

Tu devrais regarder ce pdf >>> 
https://www.chymeres.net/documents/2016-06-cartographie-vergers-chimere.pdf


Il s'agit d'une présentation du projet d'une carte collaborative des 
vergers du Parc Naturel Régional Normandie Maine.
Cette carte sera basée sur Chimère >>> 
https://www.chymeres.net/pages/presentation-fr.html
Cela parle d'Osm à partir de la page 12  et il y a une proposition de 
tag ("conservancy") qui est évoquée page 17


La présentation a été faite au mois de Juin 2016  >>> 
https://www.chymeres.net/communications-2016-fr.html
Peut-être que si tu prends contact avec l'auteur de cette présentation 
(Sylvain Montagner) il pourra t'en dire plus sur leurs réflexions à ce 
sujet.



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Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW changes

[Adam Snape]

Hi again,

Very much appreciate the effort being made on improving our coverage of
Rights of Way. It is a worthwhile area for OSMUK to look at.

Here are some further thoughts:

1., Dave refers to copies of Definitive Map Modification Orders (DMMOs) on
council websites. They are obliged to publish a register of DMMO
applications on their websites:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2005/2461/regulation/2/made Whilst these
are a great source of information their use is limited for OSM purposes
because an application to change a map is just that, an application. It may
or may not be successful (see also point 4).

2. The Orders are paper based (usually scanned for uploading), not GIS
files which could be imported straight into OSM.

3. Many, many counties have yet to release ROW information under the
OSM-compatible Open Government Licence (thank you Robert for clarifying
this for me). Very few have released the accompanying Definitive
Statements. I suggest that acquiring nationwide availability of at least
the Definitive Maps (and preferably the statements where they exist in a
digital form) is a much more urgent priority than the relatively small
proportion of paths that have been subject to recent changes for which we
do not yet have updated shape files.

4. If we do end up receiving copies of Orders, like the Ramblers, PNFS,
CTC, BHS  et al it is important that whoever deals with it should
understand the process and that we should not be altering our mapping for
everything we receive. For example, just making the DMMO does not change
the definitive map. There is a period for objections to be received in
response to the Order and possible referral to the Secretary of State. The
final stage is for an order to be confirmed. It is ony this final stage
which actually changes the definitive line or status of the path. There may
be many years (not uncommonly a decade or more) between the DMMO
application, the making of the Order, and its confirmation.

5. Finally, I'd be wary of 'armchair mapping' recent changes without a
ground survey. The advantage of being up to date ceases to be a benefit
when changes have not yet been effected on the ground.

Hope that helps.

Kind regards,

Adam

On 30 May 2017 at 14:13, Adam Snape  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> One thing that springs to mind is that these organisations receive orders
> as they are statutory consultees who may wish to object to the order. It
> isn't just to keep these organisations up to date. I suspect a request by
> osm to be notified of changes just to keep might get the response that
> orders are already available to the public.
>
> It seems what we're really asking for is an equivalent of councils'
> obligation to send Ordnance Survey notification of confirmed changes rather
> than their obligation to notify statutory consultees throughout the DMMO
> process.
>
> Adam
>
> On 29 May 2017 12:04 p.m., "Brian Prangle"  wrote:
>
>> There's been a suggestion that OSMUK lobbies  for the statutory right to
>> receive copies of the legal orders which change Public Rights of Way as it
>> can be slow for any official changes to make their way onto the Definitive
>> Map and then be picked up by mappers. There is already legislation that
>> allows various organisations the right to receive copies of the legal
>> orders that effect changes to Public Rights of Way. The list is contained
>> in Schedule 6 of the Wildlife and Countryside (Definitive Maps and
>> Statements) Regulations 1993: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/
>> uksi/1993/12/schedule/6/made
>>
>> These are:
>>
>> Auto-Cycle Union
>>
>> British Horse Society
>>
>> Byways and Bridleways Trust, Open Spaces Society
>>
>> Ramblers Association
>>
>> British Driving Society
>>
>> Cyclists Touring Club
>>
>> Peak and Northern Footpaths Society
>>
>> Chiltern Society
>>
>> Welsh Trail Riders' Association
>>
>> The Board has discussed this and agreed we should do it. I've volunteered
>> to lead this activity.  We think that we would need to convince the
>> relevant Secretary of State that it was a good idea, and get them to
>> amend/re-issue the Statutory Instrument linked above that includes the
>> list. From the introductory text, it looks like it's jointly the
>> Secretaries of State for the Environment and Wales.
>>
>> My thinking on how we should approach this is first to contact each of
>> the organisations who are already on the list and ask
>>
>>1. Were they added at the time the legislation was passed or
>>subsequently?
>>2. If subsequently, do they know the procedure?
>>3. How is the data provided to them?
>>4. What licence terms does it have?
>>5.  If it's open data would they be willing to share it with us until
>>we get on the list?
>>
>> If anybody has any knowledge or experience of this legislation or any
>> contacts at these organisations or any other  ideas on how to approach
>> this campaign we'd love to know either here or on the OSMUK 

Re: [Talk-es] Traducción bienvenida de OSM

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

¿Podríamos dejarlo entonces en?:

Lo que no se incluye son datos polémicos (por ejemplo, valoraciones),
características históricas que ya no existen sobre el terreno o
hipotéticas, ni datos provenientes de fuentes protegidas por derechos de
autor.

El 31 de mayo de 2017, 0:48, dcapillae  escribió:

> Habría que incluir un importante matiz en la traducción "Lo que no se
> incluyen son datos polémicos (por ejemplo, valoraciones), características
> históricas o hipotéticas, ni datos provenientes de fuentes protegidas por
> derechos de autor".
>
> Las *características históricas sí se pueden añadir al mapa*. Lo que no se
> admiten son características que existieron en el pasado pero que ya no
> existen sobre el terreno ("historical", relativo al pasado). En español
> traducimos "historic" e "historical" como "histórico", pero no se refieren
> exactamente a lo mismo: "historic" es lo que pertenece a la historia;
> "historical", lo que pertenece al pasado.
>
> Las características históricas, con interés histórico o cultural, se pueden
> mapear. Lo que no se admiten son características que ya no existen sobre el
> terreno. Si existen pero han sido demolidas, abandonadas o se encuentran en
> estado ruinoso o en desuso, se pueden usar los  prefijos de ciclo vital
>   . Pero si
> ya
> no existen, si no queda nada de ellas sobre el terreno, entonces son
> características históricas, pertenecen definitivamente al pasado, y no se
> admiten en el mapa.
>
>
>
> -
> Daniel Capilla
> OSM user: dcapillae
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[OSM-talk-fr] vergers conservatoires

[Lionel Bargeot]

Bonjour

J'aimerai taguer un verger conservatoire : 
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verger_conservatoire


Ni taginfo ni le wiki ne proposent de tag pour qualifier un tel verger. 
Comme ils sont en train de se multiplier sur le territoire 
(subventions), quel tag pourrions nous créer pour les distinguer ?


Merci de votre retour

Cordialement

Lionel


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Re: [Talk-cz] Zákaz kouření

[Petr Kadlec]

2017-05-31 11:10 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral :

> Problém je, jestli se to opravdu bude týkat všech restaurací. Viděl jsem,
> že připravují nějaké kličky. A taky si nejsem jist, zda to platí jen pro
> vnitřní prostory, nebo i na zahrádkách.
>

Zákonem je kouření zakázáno „ve vnitřním prostoru provozovny stravovacích
služeb“, přičemž zákaz se nevztahuje na vodní dýmky a elektronické
cigarety, které si tedy mohou i nadále upravovat restaurace samy. Takže k
mapování v OSM zůstává rozlišování, zda se v provozovně smí kouřit
elektronické cigarety (a vodní dýmky) a zda mají dovoleno kouření na
zahrádce (třeba smoking:outside=*). Ale souhlasím, že s hromadným
odstraňováním informací bych úplně nespěchal, maximálně tak přejmenovat,
aby až to budeme vracet/měnit…

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Re: [OSM-ja] 人工物について

[Seino, Yoichi]

ただ 様

せいのです。

基本的には
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
"Don't tag for the renderer"
の精神を尊重すべきかな、と思います。

あるいは、Mapnikでも表示してほしい場合は、
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues
こちらで議論すべきなのかもしれません。
Mapnik (標準のタイルレイヤー)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Standard_tile_layer
で使われているCartoCSSを管理しているのが上記のgithubリポジトリです。

ちなみに、OSM.frのタイル
http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=18=34.69829=135.40495=B000FF
では、ガスタンクが描画されていました。
そういう設定になっているんだと思います。
タイルは他にも提供元はたくさんあるので、
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers
ぜひご覧ください。


2017年5月31日 12:08 Satoshi IIDA :
>
> いいだです。
>
> 世界で描かれているgasometerの半分くらいにはbuilding=yesがついているようなので、
> ポリゴンのほうにbuilding=yesとman_made=gasometerをつけてしまってよいのではないでしょうか。
>
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made=gasometer#combinations
>
> 個人的な感覚では、建物に対して buildingとamenityの2つのキーを使うのと同じような感覚をうけるので、
> 瀧口さんの方法でもよいと思います。（コンビニとかの場合は、僕も瀧口さんと同じやり方のほうを好んで使う派です）
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017年5月31日 8:46 Noriko Takiguchi :
>
>> おはようございます。瀧口です。
>>
>> ひとまず、以下のようにタグ付けするかな
>> とは思います。
>> ガスタンクの建造物自体はclosed wayで描画して
>> そこにbuilding tagをつけ、
>> ガスタンク自体はnodeで定義する。
>>
>> 地図表現は自分で抽出するしかないのかな？
>>
>> 2017年5月31日(水) 1:00 Masayuki Tada :
>>>
>>> ただ＠尼崎です。
>>>
>>> 人工物は標準レンダラでは表示されません。
>>> 例えばガスタンク（man_made=gasometer）等です。
>>> そこで建物属性（building=yes）を付加すると表示さ
>>> れる様になるのですが、これは正しい方法なんでしょ
>>> うか？
>>>
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:%E3%83%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%81%AE%E3%81%9F%E3%82%81%E3%81%AE%E3%82%BF%E3%82%B0%E4%BB%98%E3%81%91
>>> には駄目とは書いてませんが、
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Tag:man_made%3Dgasometer
>>> の併用タグにもbuilding=yesは書いてません。
>>> ｉＤでガスタンクを選択した際にもbuilding=yesは初
>>> 期表示されないので、手動で付加しなければなりませ
>>> ん。
>>>
>>> 色々調べてたら判らなくなりました…。
>>> 人工物はbuilding=yesを付けるべきなのでしょうか？
>>>
>>> あと、人工物を表示してくれる地図をご存知でしたら
>>> 教えて下さい。
>>>
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Re: [Talk-cz] Zákaz kouření

[Lukas Gebauer]

> ode dneška velká většina tohohle (http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/pq2)
> neodpovídá realitě? Co s tím?
> 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoking říká:
> 
> "For marking applicable smoking rules. However, if a law mandates a
> given smoking rule, that need not be mapped."

Já se jen děsím toho, jak někoho po volbách hned napadne to celé zase 
změnit. Proto bych byl s nějakou radikální akcí trochu opatrný.



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Re: [Talk-cz] Zákaz kouření

[Marián Kyral]

Problém je, jestli se to opravdu bude týkat všech restaurací. Viděl jsem, že
připravují nějaké kličky. A taky si nejsem jist, zda to platí jen pro
vnitřní prostory, nebo i na zahrádkách.

Marián

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Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 31. 5. 2017 10:23:44
Předmět: [Talk-cz] Zákaz kouření
"Ahoj,
ode dneška velká většina tohohle (http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/pq2)
neodpovídá realitě? Co s tím?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoking říká:

"For marking applicable smoking rules. However, if a law mandates a
given smoking rule, that need not be mapped."

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Carte OSM des stations-service sans carburant

[PanierAvide]

Merci pour le lien, effectivement ce serait dommage d'être en panne sur 
la route d'Avignon !


#instantpromo : en parallèle, pour comparer les prix des stations qui 
ont encore du carburant, il y a toujours OpenFuelMap : openfuelmap.net 
(fond OSM, données gouv via OpenEventDB) ;-)


Adrien.


Le 31/05/2017 à 10:50, Philippe Verdy a écrit :
Attention pour vos covoiturages pour aller à la conférence à Avignon. 
Surtout pour partir de la région parisienne (prévoir le plein avant).


Le 31 mai 2017 à 10:45, Philippe Verdy > a écrit :


La grève des conducteurs de camions-citernes s'étend, une carte
basée sur OSM montre l'évolution des pénuries aux stations-service:


http://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/automobile/essence/carte-greve-des-transporteurs-de-matieres-dangereuses-y-a-t-il-encore-du-carburant-pres-de-chez-vous_2213678.html



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Carte OSM des stations-service sans carburant

[Philippe Verdy]

Attention pour vos covoiturages pour aller à la conférence à Avignon.
Surtout pour partir de la région parisienne (prévoir le plein avant).

Le 31 mai 2017 à 10:45, Philippe Verdy  a écrit :

> La grève des conducteurs de camions-citernes s'étend, une carte basée sur
> OSM montre l'évolution des pénuries aux stations-service:
>
> http://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/automobile/essence/
> carte-greve-des-transporteurs-de-matieres-dangereuses-y-a-t-
> il-encore-du-carburant-pres-de-chez-vous_2213678.html
>
> Merci France Info...
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[OSM-talk-fr] Carte OSM des stations-service sans carburant

[Philippe Verdy]

La grève des conducteurs de camions-citernes s'étend, une carte basée sur
OSM montre l'évolution des pénuries aux stations-service:

http://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/automobile/essence/carte-greve-des-transporteurs-de-matieres-dangereuses-y-a-t-il-encore-du-carburant-pres-de-chez-vous_2213678.html

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[Talk-cz] Zákaz kouření

[Michal Fabík]

Ahoj,
ode dneška velká většina tohohle (http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/pq2)
neodpovídá realitě? Co s tím?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoking říká:

"For marking applicable smoking rules. However, if a law mandates a
given smoking rule, that need not be mapped."

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Re: [Talk-it] Utente burlone

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 31. May 2017, at 08:33, Marco Ciampa  wrote:
> 
> Secondo me dovrebbe essere una regola, magari rinforzata all'iscrizione
> (non ricordo se è già così...iscritto molto tempo fa...) dalla conferma
> dell'email.
> 
> Io aggiungerei questa funzione: Se non si riconferma l'email o se questa
> nel tempo non risponde (magari dopo più di un tentativo) l'account
> andrebbe IMHO automaticamente disabilitato.


è già così, verifichiamo l'email durante la registrazione. In alternativa ci si 
può registrare facendosi autenticare tramite le grande agenzie di pubblicità 
come google o facebook.

ciao,
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Re: [Talk-cz] Prusanky

[Petr Schönmann]

Ahoj, zkusil jsem poslat mail do školy. Uvidíme jestli se pan učitel ozve.

Dobrý den,
píši jménem české komunity openstreetmap (*3). Jedná se "mapovou wikipedii"
kde každý může upravovat mapová data.
Zřejmě máte to štěstí že nějaký váš kantor vzdělává žáky v tomto směru.
Potud vše v pořádku. Nicméně poměrně často řešíme (*1) že se v okolí
Prušánek objevují podivné editace. Jméno školy například blázinec a
podobně. No znáte děti :)
Bohužel se nám nepodařilo dohledat kontakt na kantora aby jsme s ním
situaci ohledně editací probrali na konferenci a tyto editace
minimalizovali.
Proto prosím zda by bylo možno tuto informaci předat aby se pan učitel do
konference (*2) přihlásil a mohli jsme prodiskutovat nejlepší způsob jak
editovat, tak aby to nepoškozovalo aktuální mapu nesmyslnými či lichými
informacemi a žáci byli spíše přínosem než takovéto přidělávání práce.
Editace probíhaly do May 30, 2017, 8:44 AM - Zřejmě první hodina v
počítačové učebně. Více bohužel nedokáži dohledat.

(*1) https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-cz/2017-May/016901.html
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út 30. 5. 2017 v 14:21 odesílatel Marián Kyral  napsal:

> Asi nijak. A nebo si žáci dělají co chtějí (což je docela pravděpodobné).
> Ale bylo by fajn, kdyby se pan učitel ukázal tady v konferenci.
>
>
> Marián
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Petr Schönmann 
>
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 30. 5. 2017 13:04:34
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Prusanky
>
> Jak vůbec dopadla snaha komunikace s učitelem ? Nebudeme to přeci jen
> řešit rok co rok. Nebylo by vhodnější tagovat na "pískovišti" ?
>
>
> út 30. 5. 2017 v 12:52 odesílatel Marián Kyral  napsal:
>
> Ahoj,
> rss mám a sice jsem na to přes víkend neměl čas, ale vypadá to, že dnes
> byla další hodina (nebo další třída)
>
>
> http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/scripts/rss.php?bbox=16.957185,48.819904,16.998126,48.843916
>
>
>
>
>
> Marián
>
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Tom Ka 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 30. 5. 2017 11:56:32
> Předmět: [Talk-cz] Prusanky
>
> Ahoj,
>
> revertoval jsem nakonec celou sadu
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/49093481#map=14/48.8355/16.9773
>
> Sleduje to nekdo pres RSS? Na tohle jsem prisel pres nepouzitou fotku
> rozcestniku pote co vandal posunul bod rozcestniku v OSM.
>
> Bye
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Re: [Talk-in] Change of merged bank names in OpenStreetMap

[Chetan H A]

Hi Srihari,

Thanks for knocking out most of the bank names. The bank names explicitely
says as "SBI ATM", we can easily change them too. I feel these are edits
from most of locals from their local knowledge. Only few left in the
spreadsheet (around 70 of them). Let us know the thoughts of the community
on this, but I prefer to change all those to SBI.

Best,

Chetan

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Srihari Thalla 
wrote:

> Chetan,
>
> I have left some of the entries in the spreadsheet which are ambiguously
> named like 'SBI ATM' and such, but of course, are tagged with amenity=bank.
> I am not sure if I can change them.
>
> On Mon, 29 May 2017 at 10:24 Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>
>> > An area suits well with the dedicated scenario but a node is preferred
>> for rented ones!
>>
>> Agree!
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Re: [Talk-it] Utente burlone

[Marco Ciampa]

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 06:06:58AM +, THESTORM375 wrote:
> Più che altro infatti vediamo se si crea un altro account

Come si fa a scoprirlo?

In ogni caso se un utente si prende la briga di fare modifiche sulla
mappa dovrebbe altrettanto essere disponibile a rispondere alla mail.

Io non accetterei un utente che non risponde alle mail a prescindere...

Secondo me dovrebbe essere una regola, magari rinforzata all'iscrizione
(non ricordo se è già così...iscritto molto tempo fa...) dalla conferma
dell'email.

Io aggiungerei questa funzione: Se non si riconferma l'email o se questa
nel tempo non risponde (magari dopo più di un tentativo) l'account
andrebbe IMHO automaticamente disabilitato.

Si risparmierebbero un  bel po' di discussioni e gli utenti che si
iscrivono qua e la sarebbero facilmente individuabili. Ci dovrebbe essere
il modo di individuare tutte le modifiche fatte da utenti che non sono
più attivi e che hanno fatto modifiche all'inizio della loro iscrizione e
poi più nulla...

Sto facendo un po' di brainstorming, non so se hanno senso come proposte,
ma di certo qualche meccanismo automatico di limitazione dei danni
farebbe comodo...

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Re: [Talk-dk] Stations-krig.

[Andreas Hammershøj]

2017-05-30 21:51 GMT+02:00 Michael Andersen :

> On søndag den 28. maj 2017 11.01.17 CEST Michel Coene wrote:
> > Hej alle,
> >
> > Jeg har i det sidste tilføjet lidt detaljer til S-tog nettet. Så gør jeg
> > det at for meget enkle S-tog stationer så "limer" jeg perronen til
> > skinnerne. Eksempel: Islev station.  Jeg kan i øvrigt se at jeg ikke er
> den
> > eneste som bruger denne teknik. Jeg gør det fordi jeg synes det ser
> mindre
> > "rodet" ud (og det er uafhængig af hvilken renderer man bruger), og fordi
> > det rent funktionelt også passer: perronen ligger opad skinnerne, og man
> > bruger perronen til at komme med på skinnerne.
>
> Jeg oplever det i høj grad som netop "rodet"/uordentligt når jeg ser
> perroner
> "limet" på skinner. Hvis nu skinnerne var defineret som et område/polygon
> kunne
> jeg følge dig, men nu definerer vi dem jo som en simpel linie og så synes
> jeg
> ikke det rigtig duer. Jeg vil helst have perroner etc liggende ved siden af
> skinnerne og ikke på dem.
>
> Desuden er min erfaring indtil videre at folk med lignende ideer som du, i
> vidt omfang ikke synes at være særligt opmærksomme på at beskrive
> adgangsforholdene til perroner og toge, så de er funktionelle. Dette er dog
> også (som Niels også gør opmærksom på) noget som i mange tilfælde kræver en
> del overvejelser for at få til at lykkes.
>
> Vær opmærksom på https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport
> %3Dstop_area
> 
> som bruges til at beskrive hvilke perroner der hører sammen med
> en given (tog) stop position (dvs hvilken perron man kommer ud på når man
> står
> af toget på en given station). Bemærk at wikisiden her kan virke noget
> teknisk
> og  sværtforståelig. Jeg kan evt holde et lille kursus for interesserede.
>
> >
> > Som eksempel hvor skinnerne ikke er "limet" fast kan du se det nye
> > Carlsberg S-tog station.
> >
> > Nu kan jeg se at en anden bruger er gået i gang med at klippe dem løs
> > igen.  Jeg vil helst undgå en undo-krig og udfordrer derfor heller til
> > konstruktiv debat.  Jeg skal med det samme sige at jeg er enig teknikken
> > ikke funker så godt i de mere komplekse stationer, for eksempel Ballerup
> > hvor man kan stige ud af toget på begge sider samtidig.
>


Jeg har ikke brugt meget tid på jernbane i OSM, men jeg har tegnet en
hulens masse cykelruterelationer, som minder om tog-rute-relationer. Her
har jeg nogle gange været udsat for at zoneområder (fx area=residential)
eller marker har været limet til veje og stier. Det er enormt irriterende
at arbejde med når man skal vælge et stykke highway=X og hele tiden ender
med at få fat på hele marken eller zone-området. Jeg har flere gange været
nødt til at tegne større områder om.

Et andet eksempel hvor unødig sammenlimning kan være et problem er hvis det
ene af to sammenlimede elementer skal slettes eller ændres. I det tilfælde
vil man ofte være nødt til at tegne det blivende element forfra. Konkret
kunne det være en mark som var limet til en vej. Hvis marken senere skal
bebygges og erstattes af et nyt område med construction=yes, så vil det
typisk kræve at også det pågældende vejstykke slettes.

Udover vejnettet, som i sagens natur skal være så sammenhængende som muligt
vil jeg altså opfordre til at man indtegner tingene hver for sig.

vh
/Andreas



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Re: [Talk-it] Utente burlone

[THESTORM375]

Più che altro infatti vediamo se si crea un altro account
Il giorno mer 31 mag 2017 alle 07:54 Alessandro Palmas <
alessandro.pal...@wikimedia.it> ha scritto:

> Il 30/05/2017 23:49, Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto:
>
> Ho revertato i rimanenti e spedito qs mail al DWG:
>
>
> L'hanno bloccato temporaneamente, vediamo se rinsavisce o magari smette di
> editare.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] YES, we can trace the PICC

[joost schouppe]

Hi André,

I know that the situation is quite clear to you. But it obviously it is not
to everyone. The point of this discussion is not convincing you. It is
about convincing the community. Repeating how certain you are about your
opinion and calling others names is not the way to do that.

The WMS license does not explicitly allow copying. Your opinion is that
tracing is not copying, but this explicit tracing waiver is demanded for
every imagery source used for OSM. A clarification given by SPW is in fact
probably enough, but should be according to some standard legal talk (or
"gibberish" as you will).

It would of course be OK if the SPW added such a statement to their website
er even their main license document. I guess the only reason for asking for
a PDF is that it gives you a single document to upload to the wiki. A JPG
would be just as well. The document is just a way to archive a statement in
a reliable way. A copy-pasted e-mail is much less reliable, though the OSMF
seems to accept it if really needed.
This one document should be written in such a way that it applies to all
the WMS that do not have an extra Access document, hence settling the
discussion for a whole range of products.

It looks clear enough that the helpdesk.carto email address in fact is
authoritative, thanks.

I didn't think to explain what the OSMF is, sorry. It is the OpenStreetMap
Foundation, basically the organizational core of the whole project. I
contacted le...@osmfoundation.org to consult their opinion. I've included
their replies below.
Just like the DWG (data working group) is there to settle data problems
between mappers, I thought we could use Legal to settle discussion about
licenses. I'm glad to see Thomas Bertels taking the initiative to push this
forward in a productive way.



Copied from e-mail with legal:

>From my personal experience the tracing use case is in general not
explicitly covered (or rather the licensors just didn't think of it) by
your typical non-standard government terms.
Before launching in to a longer discussion of what you might/might not be
allowed to do with the imagery and pointing out that this is an area in
which national regulations and case law tends to differ a lot, so you would
need a lawyer with knowledge of the specifics in Belgium and further that
your typical government GIS department employee has no idea of what their
terms allow or doesn't allow :-) , I would suggest simply
a) formally asking the Walloon government for permission
b) getting them to sign a text including the waiver here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3PN5zfbzThqLXg1TUlxalAtVE0/view

If necessary I can get somebody from the board to sign/send a letter.

We've always accepted e-mails, and I suspect that, while we would like to
move to something more formal (say at least a scanned in document as pdf),
 it might cause too much strife right now.

In any case it needs to come from somebody clearly "high enough up" that
you can reasonably assume that he can actually commit to the waivers, and
the text should be as close to the waiver text as possible. The main aspect
is really that it must be clear to them to what they are agreeing, which
will, with most sensible people, start the alarm bells ringing and they
will talk to their legal department before agreeing to something that they
perhaps shouldn't.



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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Authorization request for use of SPW data (PICC, orthophotos and others) and OSM representative

[joost schouppe]

HI Thomas,

Thank you for taking this effort. For some it is extremely clear that we
can use SPW datasets, for others it is extremely clear we can not. If the
SPW are willing to officialise this, than we can step beyond the doubt and
the divisive discussions.

Since a few months, we have a membership and a board at OpenStreetMap
Belgium. Ben Abelshausen, Jonathan Belien and myself are on that board. Ben
is also our representative with Open Knowledge. So any of us would be good
if they want an "official representative". I would definitely be willing to
help out. I live near Brussels. Jonathan is a real Bruxeleer, so it would
be nice if we can meet there.
We can ask Dries at OpenKnowledge for a little help if SPW prefers talking
to them directly.

I hope some people from the Walloon side can join too.

That said, I wonder if they really understand the implications of our ODbL
license. They can make a kind of contract with us, but that implies that
all the data we generate based on that contract are exempt from the
contract. If vector data would be included in such arrangement, someone
could theoretically import all that data into OSM, after which anyone can
use it for anything under the ODbL license.

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