[Talk-ee] SOTM Baltic
Hi! A few additions to the mail of Ilia Zverev aka Zverik In 2011 quite a few participants of the russian OSM forum took part in the SOTM-EU conference in Vienna. It was an excellent opportunity for us to meet both OSM celebrities and ordinary OSM members. Last year SOTM was in Japan, this yeart it will be in England with complicated visa procedure for us. OSM community both in Russia and Estonia seems to be a closed and isolated circle with a very few new members each year. So we suggest to break the isolation through an internatinal OSM meet-up (or mini-conference) in Estonia. Let's call it for now SOTM Baltic. Zverik mentioned that we had held a one day local mini-conference in Moscow a year ago. Around 20 people attended that event. It didn't require many organisational efforts. The main requirement was to find a room for the event. I suppose the SOTM Baltic would be an event of the same scale. I expect that OSM members from Tartu, Tallinn, Sankt Petersburg, Moscow, Riga and Helsinki might come to the SOTM Baltic. Looking forward to your feedback. Vladimir Elistratov aka vvoovv ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
Re: [Talk-ee] Tänavanimed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Näiteks Tartu Ringtee tänaval tundub olevat loogiline süsteem. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/32405539, primaarne name on tänavanimi (lähiaadress) highway: trunk int_ref: E 263 name: Ringtee ref: 2 See tundub tõesti loogiline. Ja see on osa mitmest relatsioonist, näiteks Tallinn — Tartu — Võru — Luhamaa (1751132) maantee ja European route E 263 (61501). Mõnes mõttes on tee enda juures int_ref ja ref dubleerivad ja liigsed, ma ise võibolla neid ei panekski kui relatsioon on olemas. Aga kui on, siis miks ka mitte. Kas Tallinn — Tartu — Võru — Luhamaa on ametlik maantee nimi? Minu meelest relatsiooni name peaks ametlik nimi, kui on olemas. Kui see pole ametlik nimi, võibolla relatsiooni description sobib paremini? Mul on teine küsimus (saksa foorumist): http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=20812 Kas ametlik tänavanimed sisaldavad täielikud eesnimed või lühendid? Näiteks siin: http://osm.org/go/0w2qvP_rU-- Mis on ametlik nimi - Juhan Liivi või J. Liivi? Maaametil (http://xgis.maaamet.ee) nimi on J. Liivi, aga võibolla see on ametliku nime lühend? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRZquwAAoJEPvf9RrsekSyV+4H/RoP3Hi3pRcr3jsAzODoGRwP dCz+N8/V1hEmF591i4a3WILee/KmN0cHx/GidcNnUvuLNDAIpvUsppUKuynHhqEa rGL6Z88EU4qjQkP0oVTC4WzHimc1IbWH9EV3fDK1DVfuCVwOEvStLor/NHEmnfBy VzBKIjrQJ+1YSrHCiiVG2XolqkCn2SJ5y94Cs6TITXUjsq+zaOwUIvZhv+LbA4/r NDGMwrnoUY57QFD7v/bB6E3nmoQJpncgw4Yht/FOyOUNhHnVSJoDy0011KAq8TEE 6VT19gQZZVlJxovCnumDu5xVAYAGZgxPkbOfl7gTkce3EK6R3cUEESfd4GUgzMA= =1E8Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
Re: [Talk-ee] SOTM Baltic
Hi, sounds like a very good idea. From Estonia Jaak has been on several SOTM-s, I have been visiting SOTM in Amsterdam and Girona, Andres Kaaber was in Girona I suppose. I would not go into details but we were using Russian there alot :) - M - 11.04.2013 12:47, Vladimir Elistratov kirjutas: Hi! A few additions to the mail of Ilia Zverev aka Zverik In 2011 quite a few participants of the russian OSM forum took part in the SOTM-EU conference in Vienna. It was an excellent opportunity for us to meet both OSM celebrities and ordinary OSM members. Last year SOTM was in Japan, this yeart it will be in England with complicated visa procedure for us. OSM community both in Russia and Estonia seems to be a closed and isolated circle with a very few new members each year. So we suggest to break the isolation through an internatinal OSM meet-up (or mini-conference) in Estonia. Let's call it for now SOTM Baltic. Zverik mentioned that we had held a one day local mini-conference in Moscow a year ago. Around 20 people attended that event. It didn't require many organisational efforts. The main requirement was to find a room for the event. I suppose the SOTM Baltic would be an event of the same scale. I expect that OSM members from Tartu, Tallinn, Sankt Petersburg, Moscow, Riga and Helsinki might come to the SOTM Baltic. Looking forward to your feedback. Vladimir Elistratov aka vvoovv ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
Re: [Talk-ee] SOTM Baltic
Great! Let's count how many attendants we have so far. We haven't advertized the idea broadly yet. I just threw the idea among 7 attendants of online meeting of the OSM Russian Board. 3 of us expressed a desire to come to Estonia: 1) vvoovv (that's me) 2) Zverik 3) Zkir A quik survey among both participants of the Russian forum from Estonia revealed that: 4) SviMik is likely to attend the conference: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=327393#p327393 Vitalts is not sure yet: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=327416#p327416 5) We've got Margus (Martino) from the talk-ee so far 5 attendants so far. Not bad for the beginning! No we need to decide: Tallinn or Tartu as the host city for the SOTM Baltic? Zverik votes for Tartu. I'd also prefer Tartu. Zkir didn't express any preference, he would be simply happy to come to Estonia after visiting it 20 years ago the last time. I have an impression that Tartu is the GIS-center of Estonia since such companies as Nutiteq and Regio are located in Tartu. Margus, is Tartu ok for you as the host city? Time for the SOTM Baltic: I suggest a weekend in July. The exact dates to be decided. We need enough time for planning and preparation. Also it is important to have enough time for some participants from Russia to apply for Estonian visa. Event format: very unformal (it's more like UNconference than an academic conference): normal talks, lighting talks, podium discussions, social event in a pub in the evening. Participation in the event is free of charge. Looking forward to your feedback Vladimir Elistratov aka vvoovv On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Margus Värton mar...@dakar.ee wrote: Hi, sounds like a very good idea. From Estonia Jaak has been on several SOTM-s, I have been visiting SOTM in Amsterdam and Girona, Andres Kaaber was in Girona I suppose. I would not go into details but we were using Russian there alot :) - M - ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
Re: [Talk-ee] SOTM Baltic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd prefer Tartu - because I live there ;) 1) Do we make a small, mini-conference, or announce it in media and attract tens of participants (at the least; in Russia last November we accidentally gained hundreds)? If we could aim for a larger meeting, maybe we should give it a try. Of course it would be harder to organize rooms for tens / hundreds of people, so we should set a registration deadline, so we know how many people will come. 2) Can anyone arrange a hall for this conference? Depends a bit on how many people will come. I could talk to colleagues from the university. In the summer break there should be some free rooms, but I need to check this. 3) On which date? I'd prefer the dates in June, because I won't be in Estonia around the week from 8. to 12. July. But later in July would also be fine for me. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRZzE6AAoJEPvf9RrsekSyFh8H/04kBtKz1zfLC0h/rq+3JVvV fiaA4bO8N7amydWAhjinYTvIPU2jiJTF7Y4Izg9XyYubwE3oUDCGHXRKTRToesN8 5z7HWdKzGadC+4XMF535vrB9qGdp62G2T/UOFYiqTsH2fZ1NTj3F9CCutVT5EYYM C/v1rZ/xIJbSJoJBgeHpdSZytjo1E/q3UYYzrlo7cY+GMxT6uzaWvpVwEr80VfGh uso6jlXiSP3x7GHahqftlSvJlro1L5TR182pSsvg5glxOHbLlP5aWZMBgISSBy2F tJTbcktkMNrONCIQn3WwWjyCJMX8ALhCLOtFy429mk50MkSmzbXJRqsESNHivm4= =9n+t -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
Re: [Talk-ee] SOTM Baltic
Hello, Tartu is just fine for me :) About timing - I created a poll in http://doodle.com/anddmr2kpxwnmv773ea8r9aw especially for those who are ready to contribute more than just participation. I marked all Saturdays, but it could be even Sat + Sun event I guess. Free hall from University would be nice. At least Head of Marketing and Communication Office over there has once promised free space when we need it for an international event. Also City government could be a supporter (they host kaart.maakaart.ee server for us, and have contributed data). Btw, I know some persons from the OSM global community who have asked me for years for a good excuse to visit Estonia :) Can't promise SteveC, but why not some of the other founders (board members). Jaak On 12.04.2013, at 0:55, Manuel Hohmann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd prefer Tartu - because I live there ;) 1) Do we make a small, mini-conference, or announce it in media and attract tens of participants (at the least; in Russia last November we accidentally gained hundreds)? If we could aim for a larger meeting, maybe we should give it a try. Of course it would be harder to organize rooms for tens / hundreds of people, so we should set a registration deadline, so we know how many people will come. 2) Can anyone arrange a hall for this conference? Depends a bit on how many people will come. I could talk to colleagues from the university. In the summer break there should be some free rooms, but I need to check this. 3) On which date? I'd prefer the dates in June, because I won't be in Estonia around the week from 8. to 12. July. But later in July would also be fine for me. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRZzE6AAoJEPvf9RrsekSyFh8H/04kBtKz1zfLC0h/rq+3JVvV fiaA4bO8N7amydWAhjinYTvIPU2jiJTF7Y4Izg9XyYubwE3oUDCGHXRKTRToesN8 5z7HWdKzGadC+4XMF535vrB9qGdp62G2T/UOFYiqTsH2fZ1NTj3F9CCutVT5EYYM C/v1rZ/xIJbSJoJBgeHpdSZytjo1E/q3UYYzrlo7cY+GMxT6uzaWvpVwEr80VfGh uso6jlXiSP3x7GHahqftlSvJlro1L5TR182pSsvg5glxOHbLlP5aWZMBgISSBy2F tJTbcktkMNrONCIQn3WwWjyCJMX8ALhCLOtFy429mk50MkSmzbXJRqsESNHivm4= =9n+t -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
