Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

[Brian Prangle]

Well as we have a healthcare QP running which seems not to have generated a
community focuslike we did with schools and there's some interest in defibs
- why not get cracking on this for the rest of the QP?

regards

Brian

On 19 April 2016 at 12:21, Paul Berry <pmberry2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On the subject of defibrillators, they could make a useful GB mapping
>> project. They need surveying, but it is something that both urban and
>> rural mappers could get out and find on the lighter evenings.
>
>
> I quite agree. I've just mapped two near me (one in an old phone box, one
> affixed to the wall of a shop).
>
> I suspect there are far more out there than would be apparent from the
> map:
> http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/defibrillators-uk_81299#8/53.635/-2.304
>
> Regards,
> *Paul*
>
>
> On 18 April 2016 at 19:21, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 18:52 +0100, Robert Norris wrote:
>> > >
>> > > From: jack.fitzsim...@ntlworld.com
>> > > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
>> > > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:13:56 +0100
>> > > Subject: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I’m sure it must have been discussed before but how do I map a K6
>> > > booth
>> > > with no phone currently used for another purpose? I visited two
>> > > today
>> > > intending to get the phone numbers but discovered they were both
>> > > local
>> > > information points.
>> > >
>> > I've mapped a few that I've seen used as book shares like
>> > amenity=book_exchange, although I'd use amenity=public_bookcase now.
>> >
>> > Indeed the last one I remember doing has been kindly updated:
>> >
>> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3775804762/history
>> >
>> > For your case I'd probably use some form of tourism tag too (see http
>> > ://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dinformation)
>> >
>> I've mapped one which has a defibrillator in it as building=phone_box,
>> medical=defibrillator.
>>
>> On the subject of defibrillators, they could make a useful GB mapping
>> project. They need surveying, but it is something that both urban and
>> rural mappers could get out and find on the lighter evenings.
>>
>> Phil (trigpoint)
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Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

[Paul Berry]

>
> On the subject of defibrillators, they could make a useful GB mapping
> project. They need surveying, but it is something that both urban and
> rural mappers could get out and find on the lighter evenings.


I quite agree. I've just mapped two near me (one in an old phone box, one
affixed to the wall of a shop).

I suspect there are far more out there than would be apparent from the map:
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/defibrillators-uk_81299#8/53.635/-2.304

Regards,
*Paul*


On 18 April 2016 at 19:21, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 18:52 +0100, Robert Norris wrote:
> > >
> > > From: jack.fitzsim...@ntlworld.com
> > > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:13:56 +0100
> > > Subject: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes
> > >
> > >
> > > I’m sure it must have been discussed before but how do I map a K6
> > > booth
> > > with no phone currently used for another purpose? I visited two
> > > today
> > > intending to get the phone numbers but discovered they were both
> > > local
> > > information points.
> > >
> > I've mapped a few that I've seen used as book shares like
> > amenity=book_exchange, although I'd use amenity=public_bookcase now.
> >
> > Indeed the last one I remember doing has been kindly updated:
> >
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3775804762/history
> >
> > For your case I'd probably use some form of tourism tag too (see http
> > ://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dinformation)
> >
> I've mapped one which has a defibrillator in it as building=phone_box,
> medical=defibrillator.
>
> On the subject of defibrillators, they could make a useful GB mapping
> project. They need surveying, but it is something that both urban and
> rural mappers could get out and find on the lighter evenings.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On 18 April 2016 at 19:36, Killyfole and District Development
Association  wrote:
> I think this would be a very worthy project for a bit of OSM'er time.  I have
> been working on gathering information for defibs in County Fermanagh, but it
> really needs locals who know the area to find them and add to the map.

Re defibrillators -- I think that would be a nice project.

It seems that councils and NHS Ambulance trusts often hold lists of
these and various people have already been requesting the information
using FOI: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/search/defibrillator/all . I
don't know how complete those lists are where they exist.

There are also a couple of websites providing nationwide locations on
a map: http://www.heartsafe.org.uk/AED-Locations and
http://www.defibtracker.co.uk/ They currently have more than OSM, but
both are missing several I've mapped in Norfolk and Suffolk, so aren't
complete.

Robert.

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Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

[SK53]

I made a quick umap of existing defibrillators:
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/defibrillators-uk_81299#7/53.898/-2.670

There are several hotspots: including Tendring, Trafford, Fermanagh,
Nottingham. Of these Trafford data is probably complete, originating from
the council OpenData, and thus might provide a useful baseline of how many
to expect in a given local authority. I'm not sure how well located the
Trafford ones might be; I've looked at a few in Sale & they don't seem to
be associated with the typical locations: village halls, convenience
stores, post offices, pubs etc.

My impression is that it's not unreasonable to expect to find one in most
villages: they seem to be something that parish councils can sort out for
themselves.

Jerry

On 18 April 2016 at 19:36, Killyfole and District Development Association <
webmas...@killyfole.org.uk> wrote:

> I think this would be a very worthy project for a bit of OSM'er time.  I
> have
> been working on gathering information for defibs in County Fermanagh, but
> it
> really needs locals who know the area to find them and add to the map.
>
> Regarding tagging, is there a way in which we could tag a photograph of the
> defib at its location?  For example a link to a Mapillary sequence?
>
> I created this uMap for N. Ireland - http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/
> defibrillators-in-northern-ireland_57179#8/54.650/-6.852
>
> Just thought it would be nice if a photograph of the location could be
> displayed.
>
> Clive(KDDA)
>
> > I've mapped one which has a defibrillator in it as building=phone_box,
> > medical=defibrillator.
> >
> > On the subject of defibrillators, they could make a useful GB mapping
> > project. They need surveying, but it is something that both urban and
> > rural mappers could get out and find on the lighter evenings.
> >
> > Phil (trigpoint)
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

[Killyfole and District Development Association]

I think this would be a very worthy project for a bit of OSM'er time.  I have 
been working on gathering information for defibs in County Fermanagh, but it 
really needs locals who know the area to find them and add to the map.

Regarding tagging, is there a way in which we could tag a photograph of the 
defib at its location?  For example a link to a Mapillary sequence?

I created this uMap for N. Ireland - http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/
defibrillators-in-northern-ireland_57179#8/54.650/-6.852

Just thought it would be nice if a photograph of the location could be 
displayed.

Clive(KDDA)

> I've mapped one which has a defibrillator in it as building=phone_box,
> medical=defibrillator.
> 
> On the subject of defibrillators, they could make a useful GB mapping
> project. They need surveying, but it is something that both urban and
> rural mappers could get out and find on the lighter evenings.
> 
> Phil (trigpoint)
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

[Philip Barnes]

On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 18:52 +0100, Robert Norris wrote:
> > 
> > From: jack.fitzsim...@ntlworld.com 
> > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org 
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:13:56 +0100 
> > Subject: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes 
> >  
> >  
> > I’m sure it must have been discussed before but how do I map a K6
> > booth  
> > with no phone currently used for another purpose? I visited two
> > today  
> > intending to get the phone numbers but discovered they were both
> > local  
> > information points. 
> >  
> I've mapped a few that I've seen used as book shares like
> amenity=book_exchange, although I'd use amenity=public_bookcase now.
> 
> Indeed the last one I remember doing has been kindly updated:
> 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3775804762/history
> 
> For your case I'd probably use some form of tourism tag too (see http
> ://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dinformation)
> 
I've mapped one which has a defibrillator in it as building=phone_box,
medical=defibrillator.

On the subject of defibrillators, they could make a useful GB mapping
project. They need surveying, but it is something that both urban and
rural mappers could get out and find on the lighter evenings.

Phil (trigpoint)

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Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

[Robert Norris]

> From: jack.fitzsim...@ntlworld.com 
> To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org 
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:13:56 +0100 
> Subject: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes 
>  
>  
> I’m sure it must have been discussed before but how do I map a K6 booth  
> with no phone currently used for another purpose? I visited two today  
> intending to get the phone numbers but discovered they were both local  
> information points. 
>  

I've mapped a few that I've seen used as book shares like 
amenity=book_exchange, although I'd use amenity=public_bookcase now.

Indeed the last one I remember doing has been kindly updated:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3775804762/history

For your case I'd probably use some form of tourism tag too (see 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dinformation)

HTH.
  
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Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On 16 April 2016 at 16:13, Jack FitzSimons  wrote:
> I’m sure it must have been discussed before but how do I map a K6 booth with
> no phone currently used for another purpose? I visited two today intending
> to get the phone numbers but discovered they were both local information
> points.

I normally map these as a node with man_made=telephone_box
(http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made=telephone_box) and
then add whatever other tags are appropriate for the new use. I'll
often also a note=* tag to explain the situation to any mappers who
might come along later and try to add amenity=telephone based on
seeing the box. (I've also come across boxes with no phone and no new
use, in which case it'll just be man_made=telephone_box and a note=*.)

Robert.

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[Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

[Jack FitzSimons]

I'm sure it must have been discussed before but how do I map a K6 booth with
no phone currently used for another purpose? I visited two today intending
to get the phone numbers but discovered they were both local information
points.

 

Jack

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