[OSM-ja] Distributed Web and Big Data event in Tokyo

2018-11-18 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi all,

If you are in Tokyo and if you're free on Thursday evening 11/22, there is
an event about the "Dat Project" co-organized by Georepublic:
https://georepublic.connpass.com/event/105079/participation/

This is some technology I'm working on now for about a year. It's about the
Distributed Web, and in my opinion this allows a novel approach to share
and process big data like OSM.
It's quite exciting, so I thought someone from OSM Japan might be
interested, too.

This is for early adaptors! ;-)

Regards,
Daniel
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[OSM-ja] Tagging a Japanese address correctly

2015-12-16 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi,

I tried to find a Wiki page about tagging Japanese addresses correctly.
I only found the general "JA:Key:addr" page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Key:addr
Is there already some other guideline how to do this?

For example for a building I could add the following tags?

addr:full=兵庫県神戸市中央区雲井通5-3-1
add:postcode=651-0096
addr:country=JA
addr:province=兵庫
addr:city=神戸
addr:suburb=中央区
addr:place=雲井通5-3-1
addr:housename=サンパル

Already here I have various questions:

  * Do I include 県市区町名 in tags like addr:province or addr:city?
"addr:suburb=中央区" or "addr:suburb=中央"?

  * How to tag the English/Romaji/Kana address?
"addr:city:en=Kobe" and "addr:city:ja_kana=こうべ"?
This going to become a huge list of tags then for every address.

  * Is "addr:place=雲井通5-3-1" correct?
What to do with 上田町 and 二丁目? Do we split an address into more
tags?

Since Japanese addresses have such a nice hierarchy using polygon areas,
it would be easy to derive information from parent address polygons
(instead of adding this information to each and every building).
In this case we have for example for "二丁目" as "boundary:admin_level=
10", but how to apply the address information?

Anyone has a best practice already?

Thanks,
Daniel


PS: Where I live now I received a very detailed map delivered to all
households by the city, published by 日本特殊地図協会. The block
polygons and other building shapes look identical to GSI/KIBAN 2500. But
there is no information about the data source. Property owners layers is
added, but maybe provided by Zenrin or the city?

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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-22 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
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Hi Colin,

Beside the different opinions about proprietary and closed technology,
what is the point to add these 3 words as a tag? I don't really
understand the benefit, because the relation between location
(coordinates) and their address system is fixed. It's just a 3x3m grid.

In OSM every object has a geometry and you can query the w3w address
just using their API. So I don't see the point where it makes sense to
add such an address tag. It's like you add "latlon" as a tag.

Regards,
Daniel


On 22/11/15 22:37, Colin Smale wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Andy, you are right, if you accept that the 3 or 4 people who have 
> participated in this discussion are representative of OSM at large.
> But the most active inhabitants of this list and others are limited
> to maybe 10 people, who frequently use authoritative-sounding
> language like "we are not doing it" and "it has no place in OSM"
> without the merest hint of "IMHO". I am not naming any names, and I
> don't want to get into any personal arguments, but it is a general
> frustration I have with the discussions on these lists.
> 
> There may be many arguments against w3w in OSM, but I was kind of
> hoping that some of the attacks would also apply objectively to
> other entities which are or are not mapped in OSM. On-the-ground
> visibility was mentioned, and that is spurious in the sense that
> there are many other things in OSM which are not visible and are
> yet tolerated. Being proprietary was mentioned, but it is not
> really much more proprietary than the coordinates of UK postcodes
> used to be, and we were happily reverse-engineering them and adding
> them to point addresses and deriving district boundaries from that
> data. Through all that effort the proprietary nature (and the
> commercial value) of the PAF was to some extent diluted, and now a
> lot of this information is publicly available. Only time will tell
> if w3w takes off commercially. Right now they have had $5m of
> funding and have an impressive list of partners.
> 
> --colin
> 
> On 2015-11-22 14:01, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 22/11/2015 12:51, Colin Smale wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ...and once again, as seems to be the norm in OSM, any
>>> minority interest which is not supported by the oligarchy gets
>>> mercilessly shot down.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> ... except it's not _just_ the "oligarchy", is it?  No-one on
>> this list seems to have a good word for the original idea.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Andy (SomeoneElse)
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Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-22 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
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> 
> I guess there would be no objections to someone adding 
> addr:w3w:en=nice.place.here ? Or addr:w3w=en:nice.place.here ?
> 
> Surely the established addressing systems are also closed and 
> proprietary, in the sense that some organisation with a sanctioned 
> monopoly tells YOU what your address is - you cannot just make it
> up yourself. Street naming, postal codes etc are definitely in
> this category. We have been crowdsourcing postcodes for years
> without problems.
> 

The difference in their proprietary system (if you want to call
address systems in in countries closed and proprietary) is, that when
their API (and "algorithm") goes away, you won't find any address
anymore. It's totally unreliable to depend on a proprietary API to
locate an address, and a waste of time to add such data to OSM in my
opinion.

Regards,
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[OSM-ja] Admin-Boundary-Layer in OpenMapSurfer

2014-04-08 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi all,

Heidelberg University published an Admin-Boundary-Layer in OpenMapSurfer,
which looks pretty nice in Europe:
http://openmapsurfer.uni-hd.de/?zoom=8lat=51.26104lon=13.16722layers=0BFTFF

... but somehow not so good in Japan:
http://openmapsurfer.uni-hd.de/?zoom=8lat=36.13453lon=138.30321layers=0BFTFF

So why?
Is it a tagging problem?
Is it a data import problem?

Just posting this to share the link and start some thinking about Japan
administrative boundaries maybe.

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[OSM-ja] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Launching OpenAddresses

2014-03-25 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
In my opinion this is a nice idea to use Github issues to manage (address)
data processing.
Might be interesting for Japanese imports as well.

Daniel


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Date: Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:27 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] Launching OpenAddresses
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


Hi all,

As some of you know, I've been working on collecting as much address data as
possible for the last couple years. I had created a spreadsheet to track
progress for myself and others had contributed their own entries. That
spreadsheet hit more than 300 entries tracking millions of address points
and parcel boundaries.

With the help of awesome people like Travis Pinney, Nick Ingalls, Tom
MacWright, and Alex Barth, this past weekend we released a website and a
data dump with the source data collected into one 1.6GB zip file. Check it
out here:

http://openaddresses.io/

So far, you can add data easily in two ways:
- Submit an issue or pull request to the GitHub repo here:
   https://github.com/openaddresses/openaddresses
- Fill out this form here:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qyep9mxNtYBGV__NOGqJOUEg95-flWJnnD-FEcga0EQ/viewform

It would be supremely cool if you took a minute or two and found address or
parcel data in your area and added it to the index here.

Thanks!
Ian



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Re: [OSRM-talk] [pgrouting-dev] Making progress on dumping pgRouting tables to OSRM

2013-11-13 Per discussione Daniel Kastl

 To be able to use the route for further processing, it would be also nice,
 if OSRM would return a list of original network link ID's instead of a more
 or less simplified route geometry and a few via points.


 Yes, we throw these IDs away. As a workaround you can adapt the LUA based
 profile to use the way ID instead of the road name and take it from there.


Does OSRM return all ID's then, since they will be different for every road
segment?
I mainly have road networks, where street have no names. Then the driving
directions of OSRM are not so useful, and using ID's would be interesting.




 This is not an issue for distance matrices, where you only need to total
 distance or cost, but too much generalized routes was the reason, why I
 couldn't make use of OSRM once. And especially if the OSRM routing result
 could be later used again in PostgreSQL/PostGIS, having the original road
 network ID's would be very helpful.


 You can control the level of generalization with the zoom level parameter.


Is there a zoom level that does not generalize at all?

Daniel








 So far I couldn't find anything else than this JSON output format:
 https://github.com/DennisOSRM/Project-OSRM/wiki/Output-json


 Yep, it is not in there.

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[OSM-ja] Updated Japanese version of OSM flyer

2013-06-27 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi all,

Yesterday arrived a package with new Japanese OSM Flyers (and updated ODbL
license information):
https://plus.google.com/115362922678143387326/posts/JSkcRcuXbFu

Just use the following order form, if you need some for a mapping party,
event or to recruit new OSM mappers in your town:
https://docs.google.com/a/georepublic.de/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dE0tSnp4bWEzTlctWkg3cVFsSVFsZVE6MQ#gid=0

Daniel



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Re: [OSM-ja] Yahoo/ALPSインポート 完了のお知らせ

2013-06-26 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
 なお、地図のエラー訂正を 楽しみながら 行えそうな方法はいつでも大募集です。
 MapRouletteの日本版とか立てたら良いのかなー、とは考えているのですが。
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapRoulette


This would be nice!

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Re: [OSM-ja] OSMタイル配信サーバ名称変更

2013-05-24 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
2013/5/25 Hiroshi Miura(@osmf) miur...@osmf.jp

 三浦です。

 OSMタイル配信サーバのプロジェクト名称を変えました。

 TileMan


Great name!

Daniel

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Re: [OSM-ja] (開発者募集)OSMタイル配信サーバの開発

2013-04-10 Per discussione Daniel Kastl


 必要なパッケージをPPAで提供しています
 https://launchpad.net/~miurahr/+archive/openstreetmap


This is great!
My favorite way to install software ;-)

Daniel




 *ppa:miurahr/openstreetmap

 *libmapnik-dev パッケージに mapnik-configは含まれています。

 このPPAにnginxも、osm2pgsqlもいれました。
 スクリプトの更新いただければと思います。


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Re: [OSM-ja] (開発者募集)OSMタイル配信サーバの開発

2013-04-05 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
  Osmosisの使い方がまだまだ研究余地が有りそうです。

 Osmosisをうまく使うと、たとえば、planetの毎分の更新ファイルから、
 日本分だけ抽出してPostGISに適用する、とか、そういうことができるようです。


Imposm is also an interesting tool to import OSM data:
http://imposm.org/docs/imposm/latest/
Like Osmosis you can clip areas with .poly files. Imposm is nice to
directly read from download stream. And it distinguish between
development and production tables.

Daniel







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Re: [OSM-ja] OSM Tasking Manager

2013-03-26 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
2013/3/27 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp

 ikiyaです。

 関さん、OSM Tasking Managerの紹介ありがとうございます。

 一点、教えてください。
 OSM Tasking Managerは Humanitarian OSM Teamチームのプロジェクト用なのかと
 思っていました。
 (災害支援、人道的救済でのマッピングに使うもの?と思い込みしてました。)


OSM Task Manager was originally developed for HOT, mainly by Camptocamp,
with initial funding and the source is available at Github:
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager

There is no exclusive use for HOT. I think OSM TM is very useful for any
kind of collaborative mapping.
The reason why I decided to setup an own instance was, that the HOT
installation is indeed for typical HOT mapping tasks.
I couldn't find a license file, but the installation says Fork me, so I
did ;-)

Daniel




 アームチェアマッピングやインポート作業、マッピングパーティ前の
 事前マッピングに向いていると思います。
 一般のOSMマッピングに汎用的にOSM Tasking Managerを利用しても差し支えないのでしょうか?


 一般のマッピングでのタスク分割はMapCraftを使い分けたほうがよいと自己判断していました。
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/DaCor/diary/18858



 --- On *Tue, 2013/3/26, Hal Seki h...@georepublic.co.jp* wrote:


 関です。

 OSM Tasking Manager というのを最近業務で使っておりますが、これが素晴らしいツールです。
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager

 OSMを共同でエディットしたい時に使います。
 作業を行いたいエリアを定義しておいて、タイル毎に「ここオレやるわ」って感じでアサインして、終わったら終了にする。
 するとそのタイルの色が変わるので、どのエリアが未作業なのかわかるというものです。

 http://osmtm.pgrouting.org/

 にセットアップしていますので、もし利用されたい方がいましたらお使いください。
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Re: [OSM-ja] 住所

2013-02-08 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi all,

That's a topic I like. Thanks!
And sorry for writing in English, but then I can better explain, I think.

First of all I think tagging an address with addr:street is not a good
idea in Japan.
In Europe and US an address is defined by City + Street + House Nr., but in
Japan the address system is different.
So in my opinion it would be bad to try to fit a Japanese address in the
wrong address system.

Address databases have a high value, for example for geocoding. So I think
we should do it right. It's not only for rendering a house number on the
map ;-)
The OSM tagging is flexible and open to new tags if existing ones don't
fit. Probably we need something new (tags and also input forms)

Japanese addresses have a block hierarchy. When you work with address
data in Japan it is usually categorized with short names such as: pref,
city, oaza, chiban ...
So naming like this would only work in Japan. But you could translate it to
something like:

addr:prefecture
addr:city
addr:district
addr:block
addr:house

Maybe then it also works in other countries with a block address system.
But my point is, that we need to split the address into the parts of the
address system.
To make it even more complicated, it's common that マンション buildings have
beautiful names.
And of course addresses are written in Kanji as well as Kana.

If this is all too complicated I agree with Ikiya-san and would just tag

addr:full=名古屋市中村区名駅4-7-1
addr:postcode=450-0002

Daniel

PS: Kana writing in addresses can be quite important for sorting addresses
by name.




2013/2/9 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp

 ikiyaです。

 日本での住所タグ(place、addr)分類については東さんが言われるとおり
 議論はされてきましたがまだ全ては決まっていません。
 以下が参考になると思います。

 ◆日本でのPlace タグに関する議論wiki
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA_talk:Key:place
 ◆メーリングリストでの議論
 http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ja@openstreetmap.org/msg06574.html
 ◆Key:addrについて
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addr


 それでも以下の住所タグは使えると考えます。

 国 addr:country
 県 addr:region
 市 addr:city
 郵便番号 addr:postcode

  日本の住所がどうやって入れれますか。たとえば、トヨタの名古屋オフィス:
  名古屋市中村区名駅4-7-1
 ということであれば、

 addr:country=JP
 addr:region=愛知県
 add:city=名古屋市
 addr:postcode=450-0002

 まではOK、付けられます。

 「中村区名駅4-7-1」の部分については決まっていません。

 ということで手軽に入力する方法としては
 東さんおすすめのaddr:fullとaddr:postcodeを使った

 addr:full=名古屋市中村区名駅4-7-1
 addr:postcode=450-0002

 が良いかと私は思います。





 --- On *Sat, 2013/2/9, Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp* wrote:


 Hans さん、こんにちは。

 残念ながら住所の入れ方はまだ日本では決まっていません。

 私自身は現時点では、住所が分かるものはdataとして入れておきたいので
 addr:full=名古屋市中村区名駅4-7-1
 のように入れています。
 正式に決まったら分割して入れなおすつもりです。

 東

 2013/02/09 Hans Schmidt z0idb...@gmx.dehttp://mc/compose?to=z0idb...@gmx.de
 :
  こんにちは。
 
  日本の住所がどうやって入れれますか。たとえば、トヨタの名古屋オフィス:
  名古屋市中村区名駅4-7-1
 
  addr:country=JP
  add:city=名古屋市
  addr:postcode=450-0002
  addr:housenumber=1
 
  そこまではまだわかりますが、「愛知県」と「中村区」と「名駅」と「4丁目」
  と「7番地」がどこに入りますか。全部addr:streetに入れ ればいいですか?
  addr:street=中村区名駅4-7?
 
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[OSM-ja] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Bug fixes multilingual map

2012-12-02 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Probably some of you also follow the multilingual map development of
Jochen Topf and the discussion on the talk list.

I just want to forward this, as Korea also puts two languages in the name
tag as Japan, ie. 東京 (Tokyo).
As you can see, it should be the job of the map renderer to do this,
because it can be done very nicely:
http://mlm.jochentopf.com/?zoom=9lat=34.51588lon=135.9674layers=B0Tlang=en%7Cja

But when you look at the map, there are lots of name:ja tags missing,
because mappers put all information into name tag.
I think the Japanese community needs easier name input tools to make name
input correct and faster.
Maybe a plugin for JOSM, though I don't know how to write this:

Could work like this:

   1. Add name:ja tag manually
   2. name tag is created automatically with the same name as name:ja
   as default
   3. name:en and name:ja_rm tag would be great, if this could be
   derived from name:ja
   4. name:ja_kana tag would be great, if this could be derived
   from name:ja as well

So in the best case someone has to write only name:ja tag and the others
are created automatically (and corrected if necessary).
This would be great for multilingual maps.

Daniel



-- Forwarded message --
From: Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bug fixes multilingual map
To: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org t...@openstreetmap.org


This is fantastic!  I hope that this, or something like it, can become
the default way of rendering.  In Korea (and Japan) we have adopted
the convention of putting two languages into the name=* tag, which is
tedious, and I think shouldn't be done.

Anyway, could you please look at street names?  Maybe there's a bug.
http://mlm.jochentopf.com/?zoom=18lat=35.6888lon=127.90618layers=B0Tlang=en%7Cko

It doesn't matter if I use en|ko or ko|en, it seems there is an LF
character between the two strings which is not present in the original
data.  You can see it rendered as 'LF' inside a square box.  This 'LF'
does not appear for other labels, such as restaurants or schools.

Anyway, great work!

Best wishes,

Andrew

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:




 Am 02/dic/2012 um 21:45 schrieb Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org:

 Note that sometimes the name in [] appears below the other name and
sometimes
 right behind it. I am not doing anything different there, I guess it has
something
 to do with the way Mapnik renders multiline labels in different scripts.


 Maybe this has to do with the wrap width you set for the textsymbolizer,
or is it independent from the length of the name?

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Re: [OSM-ja] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Bug fixes multilingual map

2012-12-02 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi Douglas

Right, it can't be 100% automated.
So when I meant JOSM plugin, I thought that the automatic conversion will
just be a proposal and needs to be corrected manually afterwards. But at
least there would be an interface and tags didn't need to be added
manually. And some conversions should be possible without problem, for
example Kana to Romaji.
I know that Kanji can be ambiguous, but when you type you actually type the
reading already and then convert it to Kanji. So the plugin had to listen
to the key strokes before converting to Kanji.

From personal mapping experience I just feel that adding multiple name tags
with more or less identical content is annoying work. If it would be
possible to do everything fully automated, it could be better processed
afterwards. But because it needs user interaction and verification, it's
better to have easy to use tools to make correct tagging easier.

Daniel


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Douglas Perkins doug...@dperkins.orgwrote:

 ダグラスです。

 It's very nice to see the internationalization support progress!

 Automatically creating name:ja_kana, name:ja_rm, and name:en is probably
 not going to work.  Japanese kanji have ambiguous readings, so you can't go
 from them to a phonetic reading automatically.  And you can't go from a
 phonetic reading to kanji, because there are many kanji with the same
 reading.  Also, there are different ways of writing words in romaji, and
 currently there is not consenus on what name:ja_rm should be.  We probably
 cannot decide on just one romanization style, because different businesses
 or places may have their own preferred spelling.  Trying to automate the
 entry process for these tags (except for name, which can be an exact copy
 of name:ja), may well lead to a large number of errors.

 残念ですが、name:ja だけと知っても、name:ja_kana も name:ja_rm も name:en が分からない可能性があります。
 漢字の読み方がそんなに簡単なことではないですし。
 ローマ字のスタイルはいろいろがありますし。
 そうすれば、**一つ一つ考えないとエラーが多くなるかもしれません。


 On 2012-12-03 10:41, Daniel Kastl wrote:

 Probably some of you also follow the multilingual map development
 of Jochen Topf and the discussion on the talk list.

 I just want to forward this, as Korea also puts two languages in
 the name tag as Japan, ie. 東京 (Tokyo).
 As you can see, it should be the job of the map renderer to do this,
 because it can be done very nicely:

 http://mlm.jochentopf.com/?**zoom=9lat=34.51588lon=135.**
 9674layers=B0Tlang=en%7Cjahttp://mlm.jochentopf.com/?zoom=9lat=34.51588lon=135.9674layers=B0Tlang=en%7Cja
 [1]

 But when you look at the map, there are lots of name:ja tags
 missing, because mappers put all information into name tag.
 I think the Japanese community needs easier name input tools to make
 name input correct and faster.
 Maybe a plugin for JOSM, though I don't know how to write this:

 Could work like this:

 * Add name:ja tag manually
 * name tag is created automatically with the same name
 as name:ja as default
 * name:en and name:ja_rm tag would be great, if this could be
 derived from name:ja
 * name:ja_kana tag would be great, if this could be derived
 from name:ja as well

 So in the best case someone has to write only name:ja tag and the
 others are created automatically (and corrected if necessary).
 This would be great for multilingual maps.

 Daniel

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: ANDREW ERRINGTON erringt...@gmail.com
  Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bug fixes multilingual map
 To: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
 Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org t...@openstreetmap.org

 This is fantastic!  I hope that this, or something like it, can become
  the default way of rendering.  In Korea (and Japan) we have adopted
  the convention of putting two languages into the name=* tag, which is
  tedious, and I think shouldn't be done.

  Anyway, could you please look at street names?  Maybe there's a bug.


 http://mlm.jochentopf.com/?**zoom=18lat=35.6888lon=127.**
 90618layers=B0Tlang=en%7Ckohttp://mlm.jochentopf.com/?zoom=18lat=35.6888lon=127.90618layers=B0Tlang=en%7Cko
 [2]

  It doesn't matter if I use en|ko or ko|en, it seems there is an LF
  character between the two strings which is not present in the original
  data.  You can see it rendered as 'LF' inside a square box.  This 'LF'
  does not appear for other labels, such as restaurants or schools.

  Anyway, great work!

  Best wishes,

  Andrew

  On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
  dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
  
   Am 02/dic/2012 um 21:45 schrieb Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org:
  
   Note that sometimes the name in [] appears below the other name
 and sometimes
   right behind it. I am not doing anything different there, I guess
 it has something
   to do with the way Mapnik renders multiline labels in different
 scripts.
  
  
   Maybe this has to do with the wrap width you set for the
 textsymbolizer, or is it independent from the length of the name?
  
   Cheers

Re: [OSM-ja] 位置参照情報 Import?

2012-11-09 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Ikiyan-san,

Thank you for explanation!
I didn't read the discussion in the mailing list that time.

I also think that place names would be very useful, for having a nice map
output, but also for orientation.
It may also help when collecting house addresses.
I already have used the data for geocoding, and import to PostgreSQL is
quite easy.

Daniel






2012/11/10 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp


 ikiyaです。

 ダニエルさんへ
 (日本語ですみません。)

 先月、10月ごろからいろいろMLでインポートについてお話していました。
 http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ja@openstreetmap.org/msg06461.html

 現状はplaceタグの区分けも含めて協議中です。
 このまま全国インポートできるとは個人的には考えていません。
 私は中山間部の地名表記がOSMで欲しかったので
 地元福島県に大字・町丁目レベル位置参照情報をplace=hamletで
 部分的にインポートしました。
 ノードの位置、画面表示のタイミングや地名表記の内容について参考なりました。

 place=hamletはタグ区分けが今後、正式決定しましたらそれに修正、
 合わせる考えです。
 現状1800ノードぐらいインポートされています。

 OSMへのイ ンポート利用についてですが、
 国交省が公開している位置参照情報は出典表記すれば利用が可能です。
 http://nlftp.mlit.go.jp/isj/

 国土数値情報(KSJ2)と同様に位置参照情報も国交省国土政策局が管理しています。
 以下のwikiにあるようにインポート利用については国土政策局に2012年7月確認されています。
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Japan_KSJ2_Import
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Japan_ISJ_Import




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 Hi list,

 Looking at this wiki page, it seems that 位置参照情報 address data has been
 already imported:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Japan_ISJ_Import

 Is this also still OK with ODBL?

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[OSM-ja] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Translating the world

2012-10-25 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Just wanted to forward this email, because I think it affects Japan.

I'm very glad to see multi-lingual maps, but again I'm worried about many
name tags in Japan, which are like name=東京 (Tokyo).
In my opinion this is not so good idea, because it's tagged for the OSM
renderer. But I know there was a discussion about this already.

It would be better to fix the renderer to provide maps in multiple
languages, like the example below:

Daniel



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From: Kolossos tim.al...@s2002.tu-chemnitz.de
Date: Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:27 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] Translating the world
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


Hello,
in the last two weeks I translated all countries in all languages that are
available in the unicode-Project CLDR[1]. For this I used Overpass-API link
for country codes ISO3166-1[2].

In the second step I translated all capitals in tons of languages by using
InterWikiLinks of Wikipedia and Addtags[3] together with Overpass-API[4]
and Nominatim.

You can check the results for zoom levels 0-6  with map on
Wikimedia-toolserver[5], by changing languages under options (You can use
up- and down-key).

I hope I didn't make more mistakes than native speaker would do by hand.

These things were a small step to support multilingual-maps[6] on low zoom
levels. For the next steps more people are necessary.
In my eyes it seems useful to work as next step on the regions that are
regulated in ISO3166-2, but we have no clean tagging schema for this.
A source for translation could by a debian project[7], but I need to
clarify the legal aspects.

Other important thing would be to translate large cities or isles.

Any comments and ideas?

Greetings Tim alias Kolossos


[1]http://cldr.unicode.org/
[2]http://taginfo.**openstreetmap.org/keys/**country_code_iso3166_1_alpha_2http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/country_code_iso3166_1_alpha_2

[3]http://wiki.openstreetmap.**org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/**
RemoteControl/Add-tagshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RemoteControl/Add-tags

[4]http://taginfo.**openstreetmap.org/tags/**capital=yeshttp://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/capital=yes

[5]
http://toolserver.org/~**kolossos/openlayers/kml-on-ol-**
json3.php?lang=enzoom=3lat=**50.51632lon=5.85569layers=**0BTFFFhttp://toolserver.org/~kolossos/openlayers/kml-on-ol-json3.php?lang=enzoom=3lat=50.51632lon=5.85569layers=0BTFFF

[6]http://wiki.openstreetmap.**org/wiki/Multilingual_maps_**
Wikipedia_projecthttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_maps_Wikipedia_project

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Re: [OSM-ja] [OSM-talk] Translating the world

2012-10-25 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
A better link directly to Japanese interface:
http://toolserver.org/~kolossos/openlayers/kml-on-ol-json3.php?lang=jazoom=3lat=50.51632lon=5.85569layers=0BTFFF


On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.dewrote:

 Just wanted to forward this email, because I think it affects Japan.

 I'm very glad to see multi-lingual maps, but again I'm worried about many
 name tags in Japan, which are like name=東京 (Tokyo).
 In my opinion this is not so good idea, because it's tagged for the OSM
 renderer. But I know there was a discussion about this already.

 It would be better to fix the renderer to provide maps in multiple
 languages, like the example below:

 Daniel



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 From: Kolossos tim.al...@s2002.tu-chemnitz.de
 Date: Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:27 AM
 Subject: [OSM-talk] Translating the world
 To: t...@openstreetmap.org


 Hello,
 in the last two weeks I translated all countries in all languages that are
 available in the unicode-Project CLDR[1]. For this I used Overpass-API link
 for country codes ISO3166-1[2].

 In the second step I translated all capitals in tons of languages by using
 InterWikiLinks of Wikipedia and Addtags[3] together with Overpass-API[4]
 and Nominatim.

 You can check the results for zoom levels 0-6  with map on
 Wikimedia-toolserver[5], by changing languages under options (You can use
 up- and down-key).

 I hope I didn't make more mistakes than native speaker would do by hand.

 These things were a small step to support multilingual-maps[6] on low zoom
 levels. For the next steps more people are necessary.
 In my eyes it seems useful to work as next step on the regions that are
 regulated in ISO3166-2, but we have no clean tagging schema for this.
 A source for translation could by a debian project[7], but I need to
 clarify the legal aspects.

 Other important thing would be to translate large cities or isles.

 Any comments and ideas?

 Greetings Tim alias Kolossos


 [1]http://cldr.unicode.org/
 [2]http://taginfo.**openstreetmap.org/keys/**
 country_code_iso3166_1_alpha_2http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/country_code_iso3166_1_alpha_2

 [3]http://wiki.openstreetmap.**org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/**
 RemoteControl/Add-tagshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RemoteControl/Add-tags

 [4]http://taginfo.**openstreetmap.org/tags/**capital=yeshttp://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/capital=yes

 [5]
 http://toolserver.org/~**kolossos/openlayers/kml-on-ol-**
 json3.php?lang=enzoom=3lat=**50.51632lon=5.85569layers=**0BTFFFhttp://toolserver.org/~kolossos/openlayers/kml-on-ol-json3.php?lang=enzoom=3lat=50.51632lon=5.85569layers=0BTFFF

 [6]http://wiki.openstreetmap.**org/wiki/Multilingual_maps_**
 Wikipedia_projecthttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_maps_Wikipedia_project

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Re: [OSM-ja] Article in NYT about Mapion and OSM

2012-09-28 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Higashi-san,

I hope you don't mind, but I have little bit styled the news text ;-)
Do you need an English translation for this? On a new page maybe?

Daniel


On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jpwrote:

 東です。

 遅くなりましたが、この件、OSMFJからの声明を出しました。
 http://www.osmf.jp/news/protestagainstnyt

 記事の英訳は検討中です。

 2012/9/26, ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp:
  ikiyaです。
 
  古橋さん、コメントありがとうございます。
 
 
 https://www.facebook.com/mapconcierge/posts/473744215993332?notif_t=share_comment
 
  http://openstreetmap.jp/node/149
 
  私からマピオンへの問い合わせは止めて対応を待ちます。
 
 
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  Furuhashi-san,
  How is it possible to use OSM data together with their other
 (proprietary?)
  data sources in Japan.Just wondering ...
  Daniel
 
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Taichi Furuhashi tai...@osmf.jp
 wrote:
 
 
  古橋です。
 
 
  日本でもOSMデータが使われていることは間違いありません。
  こちらで確認したのは leisure=park のエリアデータです。
 
 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=505426332819676set=a.313949581967353.87430.10569420263type=1
 
 
 
 
  他に、OSMのデータが使われている場所を発見した方がいれば共有よろしくお願いします。
 
 
  2012/9/26 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  変な言いがかりはつけられたくないですね。ただ、このMapアプリのAcknowledgements
 
http://gspa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html
 
 
 
 
 
  には OSM が記載されているので、全く未使用ということはないのかなぁ。どちらにしろ、OSM だから間違ってるとかデータが古いとか言ってるのは
 
 
 
 
 
  正さなければ。
 
  Well, the list of map data sources is very long. And it's not correct to
  guess the data that is wrong is the data from OSM without being able to
  proof this statement.
 
 
 
 
  Furthermore I don't believe, that the old OSM data of Japan was really
  wrong. It was just not so complete a few years ago: incomplete != wrong.
  Right?
  Just what I don't understand is, how Apple can use OSM data together
 with so
  many other data sources without having license problems.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Bad (wrong?) OSM publicity?

2012-09-25 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Jeffrey Warren j...@unterbahn.com wrote:

 OpenStreetMap Japan, a Wikipedia-like service that contains a lot of
 incorrect and outdated information.


 that is really awful. We can't let that kind of statement stand! It
 affects the credibility of all OSM efforts, and is like the kind of FUD
 Wikipedia saw early on. Any possibility of getting a retraction? Though
 really that doesn't even cover it. Some kind of very public rebuttal.


OSMF Japan (the local Japanese chapter) has already contacted the writer as
well as the interviewed person and I think there will be an appropriate
update/correction of the statement.

Anyway, it's just a matter of time until OSM will be the reference map in
Japan. We're working on it ;-)

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Re: [OSM-ja] Article in NYT about Mapion and OSM

2012-09-25 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi Japanese mappers,

Anyone knows Mr. Yamagishi, so we can ask him?
Would be interesting to ask him how he knows that OSM data is used by Apple.
I mean, he's claiming this in an international newspaper, so he should be
able to proof what he says.
Otherwise he will probably tell this wrong information also to customers
and wherever else.

Daniel



On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:

 Dear friends in Japan,

I came across this article in the online New York Times today:

 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/**09/25/technology/apple-maps-**
 errors-send-japanese-to-**homegrown-app.htmlhttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/technology/apple-maps-errors-send-japanese-to-homegrown-app.html

 In which an iPhone application named Mapion is discussed.

 It contains the following quote:

 The biggest problem with Apple’s map, Mapion’s Mr. Yamagishi said, is
 that much of its data appears to be drawn from OpenStreetMap Japan, a
 Wikipedia-like service that contains a lot of incorrect and outdated
 information.

 I wonder how the New York Times could fall for that misinformation - Apple
 isn't using OSM, and if it *were* using OSM then we certainly don't have a
 lot of incorrect and outdated information. I think it is possible that
 Mapion have perhaps not been entirely truthful in their press contacts.

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Re: [OSM-ja] Article in NYT about Mapion and OSM

2012-09-25 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
 変な言いがかりはつけられたくないですね。
 ただ、このMapアプリのAcknowledgements
   http://gspa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html
 には OSM が記載されているので、全く未使用ということはないのかなぁ。
 どちらにしろ、OSM だから間違ってるとかデータが古いとか言ってるのは
 正さなければ。


Well, the list of map data sources is very long. And it's not correct to
guess the data that is wrong is the data from OSM without being able to
proof this statement.
Furthermore I don't believe, that the old OSM data of Japan was really
wrong. It was just not so complete a few years ago: incomplete != wrong.
Right?

Just what I don't understand is, how Apple can use OSM data together with
so many other data sources without having license problems.

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Re: [OSM-ja] Article in NYT about Mapion and OSM

2012-09-25 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Furuhashi-san,

How is it possible to use OSM data together with their other (proprietary?)
data sources in Japan.
Just wondering ...

Daniel


On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Taichi Furuhashi tai...@osmf.jp wrote:

 古橋です。


 日本でもOSMデータが使われていることは間違いありません。
 こちらで確認したのは leisure=park のエリアデータです。

 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=505426332819676set=a.313949581967353.87430.10569420263type=1

 他に、OSMのデータが使われている場所を発見した方がいれば共有よろしくお願いします。


 2012/9/26 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de


 変な言いがかりはつけられたくないですね。
 ただ、このMapアプリのAcknowledgements
   http://gspa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html
 には OSM が記載されているので、全く未使用ということはないのかなぁ。
 どちらにしろ、OSM だから間違ってるとかデータが古いとか言ってるのは
 正さなければ。


 Well, the list of map data sources is very long. And it's not correct to
 guess the data that is wrong is the data from OSM without being able to
 proof this statement.
 Furthermore I don't believe, that the old OSM data of Japan was really
 wrong. It was just not so complete a few years ago: incomplete != wrong.
 Right?

 Just what I don't understand is, how Apple can use OSM data together with
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[OSM-talk] SotM live streaming

2012-09-05 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
In a few minutes the SotM 2012 in Tokyo will start:
http://www.stateofthemap.org/

As every year for the majority of mappers it's not possible to attend the
yearly OpenStreetMap conference.
But for everyone, who couldn't come to Tokyo we offer to watch the talks
and presentations live on Ustream.
There are two channels:

   - Main: Convention Hall (2F)
   http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sotm-main

   - Second: Conference Room (3F)
   http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sotm-second

For the program schedule take a look here:
http://www.stateofthemap.org/schedule/
(Tokyo is 9 hours ahead of UTC)

Slides and other material will be collected and published in the conference
Wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2012/Thursday
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2012/Friday
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2012/Saturday

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Re: [OSM-talk] Another live edit viewer

2012-09-04 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:57 PM, cquest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr wrote:

 A newer (cleaner) version is available at http://live.openstreetmap.fr/

 We designed it for demo purpose, but the backend will allow much more.
 I'll explain that during a lightning talk at SOTM.


We're planning to record the presentations, so you can watch them live, if
you like.
Details will be posted on the SotM website: http://www.stateofthemap.org/

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Re: [OSM-talk] 5th Sep. Akihabara mapping party, Tokyo

2012-09-02 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Higashi-san,

Very cool place for a mapping party!
If you're in Tokyo and have a time, I definitely recommend you to join.

I will add this also to the SotM website.

Daniel



On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jpwrote:

 Sorry for short notice.

 I planned a pre-SotM unofficial mapping party on 5th September at
 Akihabara, Tokyo.
 Please come on and join us!
 More details:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Akihabara_mapping_party_20120905

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Re: [OSM-ja] Design Document for the Multilingual maps Wikipedia project(日本語)

2012-08-30 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
2012/8/30 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp

 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 01:14:03PM +0900, Daniel Kastl wrote:
  Hi Japanese list,
 
  I just wanted to forward this information to the Japanese community:
 
  There is the Multilingual maps Wikipedia project:
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_maps_Wikipedia_project
 
  And Jochen Topf, who is working on this, has published a Design
 Document:
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Mlm-designdoc.pdf

 Sorry I write Japanese.

 すみません。日本語で返事します。

 資料の冒頭部のみをさらっとみました。
 今の方法だと、レンダリングされたタイルには文字そのものが埋め込まれ、
 多言語化するとなると言語分だけタイルを作らなければならずそれは非現実的。
 なので、レイヤを分けて表示する事を考えた、ということでしょうか。

 おおよそいいのではないかと思いますが、日本語の場合には
 1) 漢字
 2) よみ (enで代行してもいいかも)
 3) ローマ字
 の3レイヤがいるかもしれません。

 このような状況は日本だけではなく、たとえば香港にある「太子」は
 英語では「Prince Edward」ですが、多分中国語の読みは違います。

 oota


Oota-san,

Thank you for your comment!
I have to say sorry to write in English, but of course everyone can answer
in Japanese ;-)

The design document is rather technical, and it mostly about rendering
labels separate from the features in different layers as you say.
I think multilingual maps is one of the interesting things OSM can
provide. But it's important that mappers know about this and tag correctly.

It's a discussion in many countries how to do name: tags correctly.
In Japan many people use name: Kanji ( Romaji ), which is not 100%
correct in my opinion.
But we do this to get a nice map output on openstreetmap.org ;-)

With support for multilingual maps it's important that mappers know about
this feature and use name:lang tags correctly, I think.
Then we can create much better maps.

Daniel

PS: would be something interesting to discuss at SotM actually ... maybe in
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Re: [OSM-ja] Design Document for the Multilingual maps Wikipedia project(日本語)

2012-08-30 Per discussione Daniel Kastl


  With support for multilingual maps it's important that mappers know about
  this feature and use name:lang tags correctly, I think.
  Then we can create much better maps.

 うーん、
 上記の事柄は、マッパにーに正しく行ってもらうのは難しいと思います。

 name: タグは、そのタグが位置する国の言語で書くのが一番素直だと思います。
 特に日本のような、(ほぼ)単一言語が使われている国では。
 それゆえ、name: タグから、 name:lang タグに自動的にコピーする
 仕掛けを用意する方が良いと思います。

 国際化の仕組みを作ること、タグの国際化記述方法を決めること、この2つを
 平行に行う必要があると思います。


Maybe one more comment, because my own text sounds like it's the mappers
fault to use the name tag wrong.
But that's not true!

I think that currently tagging names for Japanese is 面倒くさい ;-)
So we probably need better software to make it easier for Japanese mappers
to do it correctly.

Maybe that's something OSMF Japan can support, for example with a contest
and scholarship for students to develop a better name tagging tool for
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Re: [OSM-ja] Design Document for the Multilingual maps Wikipedia project(日本語)

2012-08-30 Per discussione Daniel Kastl


 たとえば、来年のGSOC (Google Summer of Code)に参加してみるという方法は
 いかがでしょうか?


Yes, that's a good idea!
Or someone does it for glory ;-)

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[OSM-ja] Design Document for the Multilingual maps Wikipedia project

2012-08-29 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi Japanese list,

I just wanted to forward this information to the Japanese community:

There is the Multilingual maps Wikipedia project:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_maps_Wikipedia_project

And Jochen Topf, who is working on this, has published a Design Document:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Mlm-designdoc.pdf

I thought it might be a good idea, if the Japanese OSM community can take a
look at the design document to see, if it suits the needs of a Japanese
multilingual map.
If you have some comments or advice, Jochen would for sure appreciate some
feedback from Japanese-speaking community.

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[OSM-ja] The bot arrived in Japan

2012-07-20 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi all,

I think the redaction bot reached Japan:
http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php?zoom=5lat=35.15585lon=134.25293layers=B00FFTFF

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Re: [OSM-talk] Transcription and internationalization in place names

2012-04-16 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
I think Japanese names are a good example how complex name tags can be, see:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Japan_tagging#Names

There are altogether listed 5 tags for a name: name:ja_rm or name:en are
what you can read without knowing Japanese characters.
name:ja_rm is probably what will not be rendered usually, but this would be
the name written for example on street signs as name in latin characters.
name:ja_kana is what was mentioned in a previous email, because it helps
Japanese people to know the reading of a name. It's also useful for
geocoding.

Daniel


On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Peter Wendorff
wendo...@uni-paderborn.dewrote:

 Am 16.04.2012 09:54, schrieb Maarten Deen:

 Wouldn't it be an idea to tag the name in the characterset of the country
 and have the renderer decide whether or not to render a name:en tag with
 the name tag?

 I don't think it's a simple task to decide from the unicode representation
 of osm tags about the character set of the country, as it's not encoded
 in that way.
 name:en might additionally not be what we want internationally.
 Let's take Beijing as an example:
 - it's something in chinese glyphs as a local name (and I'm not sure, if
 there aren't several variants even in chinese
 - in Germany it's called Peking, which originates in south china
 (according to wikipedia)
 - Gaeilge language uses Béising
 - Italians use Pechino

 In this case English seems to use the right transcription Beijing, but
 I'm sure there are other cases, where English (or at least British English)
 uses a more customized version, e.g. from colonialism.

 I don't know if the renderingrules allow such a decision to make. After
 all, the renderingrules decide how the map looks like, and I can understand
 if countries that do not use latin script want to render a latin-clean
 map.
 And: do not tag for the renderer. Entering names twice is tagging for the
 renderer.

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[OSM-ja] First glaciers in Japan recognized

2012-04-05 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi all,

Does someone know where these new glaciers are?
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120405x3.html

I just read this article in Japanese. Probably there is more information in
Japanese.
Would be cool to add them to OSM

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Re: [OSM-ja] First glaciers in Japan recognized

2012-04-05 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Show-ichiさん、

Thanks a lot! Very nice PDF's.

Daniel


2012/4/6 内田祥一 showich...@gmail.com

 Show-ichi です。

 Daniel Kastl さんは書きました:
 Hi all,
 
 Does someone know where these new glaciers are?
 http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120405x3.html
 
 I just read this article in Japanese. Probably there is more information
 in
 Japanese.
 Would be cool to add them to OSM

 富山県の立山と剱岳の雪渓が日本雪氷学会で氷河と認定された件ですね。論文の公判はまだのようです。
 富山県のプレスリリースがこれ:
 http://www.tatecal.or.jp/120404kouhou.pdf
 調査を行ったのは、立山カルデラ砂防博物館 (http://www.tatecal.or.jp/top.htm) の学芸員で
 調査状況をまとめたパワーポイント資料がこれ
 http://www.tatecal.or.jp/stuff/fukui/glacier2010sss.pdf
 http://www.tatecal.or.jp/stuff/fukui/glacier2011.pdf
 基盤地図情報から万年雪の位置をトレースできれば、OSMへの反映も可能かな?

 English:
 It is an affair in which the valley with year-long snow in Tateyama
 and Mt. Tsurugi of Toyama Prefecture was recognized as the glacier in
 Japanese Society of Snow and Ice. Publication of the paper is not yet.
 The Press Releases of Toyama Prefecture are this:
 http://www.tatecal.or.jp/120404kouhou.pdf
 an investigator is a curator of the Tateyama caldera erosion control
 museum (http://www.tatecal.or.jp/top.htm),
 and his PowerPoint file in which the investigation was summarized are this:
 http://www.tatecal.or.jp/stuff/fukui/glacier2010sss.pdf
 http://www.tatecal.or.jp/stuff/fukui/glacier2011.pdf
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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Traffic simulation Modeling using OSM data

2012-04-03 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi Sourav Dutta,

Your GSoC idea might eventually fit to the pgRouting project (
http://www.pgrouting.org/), which also participates in GSoC as part of
OSGeo as a mentoring organization:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenRouter_2012_SOC_Ideas

pgRouting had one GSoC project last year implementing time-dependent
shortest path algorithm. An algorithm that takes into account the network
condition at the time it reaches a link in the network. The library is not
only about routing but open to any kind of network analysis, like  flow
algorithms would be something I'd like to see.

As Graham said, your proposal has only a small OSM part. But of course you
can make use of OSM data for a reference implementation.
More general information about OSGeo and GSoC you can find here:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2012

Daniel


On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Andres Oswaldo Calderon Romero 
andress.calde...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is some work around it in SUMO (Simulation for Urban MObilitiy) [1].
  It already allows the use of OSM networks [2]. ..

 [1] http://sumo.sourceforge.net/
 [2]
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/sumo/index.php?title=NETCONVERT#Supported_Formats

 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Floris Looijesteijn o...@floris.nu wrote:

 Hey,

 I also really like this idea. If you could spice up the OSM part in it
 I think you
 should definitely submit it!

 Maybe you could do something with the history in OSM. What happens if a
 new
 motorway is opened? Or you could work with the proposed=* ways...

 Greetings,
 Floris Looijesteijn

 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
  This sounds like a really interesting idea - it is something I have
 always
  had the idea of doing, but have never got around to it - I would like to
  re-create the effect of someone touching their brakes on a busy road,
  leading to someone  doing an emergency stop 2km further back.
 
  The OpenStreetMap part of the proposal is however quite minor - it is
 only
  really providing you with the network - the 'interesting' part of the
  proposal is the simulation.
  Therefore by all means submit the idea to OSM and we will consider it
 along
  side the other proposals, but it might be worth seeing if there is a
  numerical simulation project that has been accepted to GSoC that you
 could
  apply to as well, in case it is not accepted as part of OSM?
 
  Regards
 
  Graham.
 
  On 3 April 2012 11:38, sourav dutta mailsouravdu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
  Sorry for mailing in so late, i came to know about Gsoc few days ago.
  I am Undergraduate doing my Btech-Hons for IIIT - Hyderabad. I have
 worked
  in OCR, Vision,(Sfm) ,Image Processing,Information retrieval.
 
  OSM data have been used for path finding...with A star algo etc.but it
 is
  never used for simulation of traffic.
 
  Traffic monitoring and simulation has been worked on for some time now.
  There are very elaborate systems like MITSIM which gather data from
  various sources  and  design a traffic model. But the problem is it is
  very difficult to implement them. The information about the streets,
 traffic
  data, satellite data etc. is difficult to gather.
   My idea is to design a traffic simulation using OSM data. as the
 OSM
  data is readily available and is available in many formats. To model
 the
  traffic probabilistic or network flow models are popular. But to get a
  more accurate simulation want to use  multiple vehicles as bots
 interacting
  with
  each other.
  A basic overview of my idea ...
 
  1) first we need the area where want the simulation to run. This would
 be
  done by defining a rectangular region in the map. This data can be
 stored
 in posgreSQL which will make it easier to use the data.
  2) Next we define for all the bots - source and destination and this
 find
  the appropriate path(A star) to go.
  3) At the heart of the simulation we need to have a engine which would
  handle the collision etc. and directs the bots etc. I have tried a few
  physics
 engine but their performance degrades steeply decreases with the
  increase of number of objects.
  4)  So I want to use my own engine with only few rules for collision
 etc.
  The brute for implementation would require to check each bot with
 other bot
 ( the same thing which makes other engines slow O(n^2) ). But i
 plan to
  use a implementation of KD-tree, ANN(Approximate nearest neighbour)
 Open
source  implementation of the same exists and works pretty well. This
  would allow the matching to be done in O(nlogn).
 ANN implementation (http://www.cs.umd.edu/~mount/ANN/)
  5) To manage the interaction of the bots the memory requirements
  skyrockets as the number of bots increases. ie why i wish to treat
 them as
  Multi-Agent-System
  There are nice implementations of distributed multi-agent
 framework
  which use shared memory to manage the agents( bots in our case).
  6)  congestions , 

Re: [OSM-ja] osm.jp落ちてませんか?

2011-11-12 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
I will take a look.

2011/11/12 Takashige Nakagawa takashige.nakag...@gmail.com

 中川と申します。

 確かにつながりませんね。

 iPhoneから送信

 On 2011/11/12, at 16:30, Yoichi Seino say.n...@gmail.com wrote:

  清野です。
 
  現在関西オープンソース2011でセミナー中です。
 
  そこでhttp://www.openstreetmap.jp/ を紹介しようと思ったのですが、
  なんか落ちているようで、皆様にお見せできませんでした。
 
  もし何かご存じの方がいらっしゃいましたら一度ご確認いただけませんでしょうか?
 
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Re: [OSM-ja] osm.jp落ちてませんか?

2011-11-12 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
I had to force a shutdown of the virtual machine. Normal reboot didn't
work. But after starting it again it works now.
Maybe someone has an idea where to find the right lines in the log
describing the problem?

Daniel

PS: all other virtual machines of the server were running normally.


2011/11/12 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 I will take a look.


 2011/11/12 Takashige Nakagawa takashige.nakag...@gmail.com

 中川と申します。

 確かにつながりませんね。

 iPhoneから送信

 On 2011/11/12, at 16:30, Yoichi Seino say.n...@gmail.com wrote:

  清野です。
 
  現在関西オープンソース2011でセミナー中です。
 
  そこでhttp://www.openstreetmap.jp/ を紹介しようと思ったのですが、
  なんか落ちているようで、皆様にお見せできませんでした。
 
  もし何かご存じの方がいらっしゃいましたら一度ご確認いただけませんでしょうか?
 
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[OSM-ja] Tile Renderer with 5 commands

2011-10-07 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi everyone,

Just reading s post on the German mailing list, that I think is worth to
spread:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2011-October/089415.html

So for everyone interested in running an own tile renderer and couldn't so
far manage to set it up, Kai is trying to make this as easy as setting up an
OpenLayers map.
The announcement on the German list was supposed to be a call for testing of
a initial version. All you need currently is Ubuntu 11.04 and then run these
commands:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kakrueger/openstreetmap
sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-tile
wget http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/germany/rheinland-pfalz.osm.pbf
osm2pgsql -C 1500 rheinland-pfalz.osm.pbf
sudo /etc/init.d/renderd restart

Then you should be able to access tiles at http://localhost/osm/0/0/0.png
Pretty cool, I think. It's still installing while writing this post, so
let's see how it works.

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Re: [OSM-ja] CT/ODbL拒否ユーザデータの書き換えについて(was: [OSM-talk] Data reconciliation. Removing CT/ODbL declined users.)

2011-07-21 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
I saw that mapper 171838 argrath is on this list of rejecting users:
http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/license/

Has anyone talked to him?
I think this would cause a lot of imported data to be deleted, if I don't
mistake.

Daniel



2011/7/21 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp

 東です。

 ライセンスワーキンググループから
 新しい投稿規約/ODbLを明示的に拒否した投稿者のデータについて
 自分の地域の状況確認と、そのデータの書き換えについて
 の呼びかけがありましたのでお知らせします。

 手順:

 Potlatch2やJOSMのlicensechangeプラグインで自分の住む地域のデータを開き、ライセンス変更を拒否したユーザのデータがあった場合には
 その地域についての自分の知識や何らかの問題の無いソースに基づき、そのデータを新たに書き換えましょう、
 という呼びかけです。

 reconcileというキーワードが出てきますが、互換を取り直す、つまりODbL互換のデータに切り替えて行くことを指すようです。

 時間と能力の不足で全文を訳せないので、詳細は下記原文を参照下さい。

 初めてやることなので、急いでやるというより、不明点があればこのMLで意見交換しながら進めると良いように思います。

 現在のフェーズはこちら。

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Open_Database_License/Implementation_Plan#.E3.83.95.E3.82.A7.E3.83.BC.E3.82.BA_4_-_.22.E6.8B.92.E5.90.A6.22.E3.82.A2.E3.82.AB.E3.82.A6.E3.83.B3.E3.83.88.E3.81.AF.E9.9D.9E.E6.B4.BB.E6.80.A7.E5.8C.96.E3.81.95.E3.82.8C.E3.81.BE.E3.81.99.E3.80.82_.28.E3.83.95.E3.82.A7.E3.83.BC.E3.82.BA_3_.2B_.E5.B0.91.E3.81.AA.E3.81.8F.E3.81.A8.E3.82.828.E9.80.B1_.E3.82.AF.E3.83.AA.E3.83.86.E3.82.A3.E3.82.AB.E3.83.AB.E3.83.BB.E3.83.9E.E3.82.B9.E3.82.92.E5.89.8D.E6.8F.90.E3.81.AB.29

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 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:49:03 -0400
 Subject: [OSM-talk] Data reconciliation. Removing CT/ODbL declined users.
 To: t...@openstreetmap.org

 Dear All,

 The License Working Group takes the position that it is now
 appropriate to begin reconciling the data touched by users who have
 explicitly declined CT/ODbL.  LWG feels that those users who have not
 responded should have a grace period of another week or two.  You can
 find the list of usernames that have declined here.
 http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/license/  This page is updated every
 hour.

 As always, map areas that you know well and in small pieces.  At this
 point don't remove non-compliant data unless you are replacing it;
 another mapper may be able to replace it from local knowledge or
 survey.  Bulk edits and or automated edits and or bots to reconcile
 non-compliant data are not welcome without previous, detailed
 discussion on the dev@ and or imports@ lists.  Share your experiences
 to find the most effective workflows for improving OpenStreetMap data
 quality.

 - Check your local mapping area for data that is not completely
 CT/ODbL compliant.  In Potlatch2, choose Options, and check Show
 license status.  There is also a licensechange plugin for JOSM.

 - Consider sending personal messages before you edit to those who have
 not accepted or those who have declined based on your judgement.  Some
 users have declined and indicated on their user pages that they will
 not reconsider.  We do not wish to send unwelcome or duplicate
 messages.  See also
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL

 - Replace the data of users who have explicitly declined CT/ODbL with
 your own contributions from survey and other acceptable sources.

 - While this initial stage is focused on replacing data touched by
 users who have explicitly declined, you might find data touched by
 users who have not yet responded.  We leave it to your judgement to
 replace that data now or wait another week or two.

 Once you begin replacing data, check on a regular basis whether the
 user in question hasn't changed his/her mind and has accepted CT/ODbL.
 You can look at http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/license/, this is
 updated every hour.

 Best regards,
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 on behalf of the License Working Group.

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[OSM-ja] Tsunami map styles

2011-05-08 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi list,

Not sure this has been already posted on this list, but better twice than
never:

In the OSM Wiki has been added a map style page to show POI's for the
Tsunami affected regions:
http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Styles/JP-Tsunami

http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Styles/JP-TsunamiMaybe someone knows a
missing tag attribute.

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[OSM-ja] 原発マップ

2011-04-17 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Today in the German weekly OSM news I read about a nuclear power-plant map
(in French):
http://www.leretourdelautruche.com/map/nuke/?zoom=5lat=38.05361lon=136.50756layers=B00TT

There are a few issues with Japanese fonts, I think.
Here are informations about how to tag a nuclear power-plant:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/tags/generator%3Asource=nuclear#wiki
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/tags/power_source=nuclear#wiki

The Japanese Wiki page (probably someone already posted it):
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Tag:power%3Dgenerator

Daniel

PS: All information in German, but fortunately there is Google Translate ;-)
On this website is a collection for OSM material to be used in school
curriculum:
http://www.leretourdelautruche.com/map/nuke/?zoom=5lat=38.05361lon=136.50756layers=B00TT
http://www.tinohempel.de/info/info/fortbildungen/index.htm
(only the first section is OSM, later are other topics as well)
http://www.tinohempel.de/info/info/fortbildungen/index.htm

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Re: [OSM-ja] OSC 2011 Kansai@KOBE 出展、セミナー発表します

2011-04-02 Per discussione Daniel Kastl


 展示、OpenStreetMap 説明のお手伝いをしてくれる方の参加も歓迎します。

 準備予定品
 ・OSM パンフレット(OSMFJ 作成)
 ・パソコン
 ・電源タップ
 ・GPS ロガー


 ※パソコンは展示用にノートを持参しますがどなたかディスプレイを用意いた
  だけると大変ありがたいです。


I will bring the display.
Do we have one table or two tables?

Daniel






 ※他に展示品などありましたら私までご連絡頂くか当日持参頂けますでしょう
  か。


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Re: [OSM-ja] ミーティング開催のお知らせ

2011-03-19 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Higashi-san,

Same chat room as usual?

Daniel


2011/3/19 S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp

 東です。

 国内外でマッピングに参加してくださっている方への呼びかけです。

 本日、3/19(土)17時頃から、集まれる方だけでも集まって
 日本のマッピングを進めるに当たって
 現在の状況把握や、問題があるならどうしたら良いか
 意見交換しませんか。
 作業でお忙しい方は、そちらに専念してください。

 skypeにOSMJapanというチャットルームを作りましたので
 参加頂ける方は私までskypeIDを直メールでお知らせください。

 チャットルームは当分開けておきますので17時以降でも
 随時ご参加ください。

 私の方では、その結果をWikiなどにまとめていきたいと思っています。
 sinsai.info からはリリースして頂いたので、今後マッピングに注力したいと
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Re: [OSM-talk] Japanese - help by students

2011-03-17 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi Jan,

How did you count them? Which tags?
In Japan so called convenience stores are almost everywhere.
Though I think not a lot of shops and other buildings have been mapped in
Japan before.

Daniel




2011/3/17 Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net



  hi!

 i analyse the area of japanese and found only 20 supermarkets - would it be
 possible to ask japan-students (home in the crise-area) for informations
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[OSM-ja] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Japanese - help by students

2011-03-17 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Question on OSM talk list.
There are probably not many supermarkets yet.

Daniel


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To: t...@openstreetmap.org




 hi!

i analyse the area of japanese and found only 20 supermarkets - would it be
possible to ask japan-students (home in the crise-area) for informations
about supermarkets etc.

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[OSM-ja] Japan quake radioactive material monitoring

2011-03-17 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Not sure this was posted here already or not, so just ignore if it's
duplicate.

I just received an email from a Japanese friend (thank you Hajime!) with a
link to this map:
http://maps.google.co.jp/maps/ms?hl=enie=UTF8brcurrent=3,0x34674e0fd77f192f:0xf54275d47c665244,0msa=0msid=208563616382231148377.00049e573a435697c55e5ll=39.13006,140.229492spn=17.158657,39.111328z=5

Lot's of content in Japanese there, but links with check data lead you to
websites of local government with information about the radioactivity level.

Daniel
http://maps.google.co.jp/maps/ms?hl=enie=UTF8brcurrent=3,0x34674e0fd77f192f:0xf54275d47c665244,0msa=0msid=208563616382231148377.00049e573a435697c55e5ll=39.13006,140.229492spn=17.158657,39.111328z=5

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Re: [OSM-talk] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Tohoku/Japan

2011-03-16 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
If you want to help mapping Japan and don't know where, take a look at this
map:
http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=667dc8e453c347cfb89a846d6dffb61d

Orange: Tsunami affected area
Purple: areas with many people at the moment

Thank you to Ikiya for this information!

Daniel
http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=667dc8e453c347cfb89a846d6dffb61d

2011/3/16 Tomomichi Hayakawa tom.hayak...@gmail.com

 Now we are mapping around tsunami/earthquake afflicted area.
 Broad area has affected, so we need help to create base map.
 Please help us.

 There are some high-resolution  Bing area around tohoku.
 Aomori, Hachinohe, Sanriku (Kamaishi to Miyako),
 Sendai, Kurihara, ichinoseki,Oou, Hanamaki, Morioka, Iwaki ...etc
 Here is a Bing-area map on google map.

 http://maps.google.co.jp/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enbrcurrent=3,0x34674e0fd77f192f:0xf54275d47c665244,0msa=0ll=39.491324,141.152344spn=3.598772,6.421509z=8msid=214659934638657454830.00049e3467120e402f8cb

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Re: [OSM-talk] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Tohoku/Japan

2011-03-16 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
I heard from several foreigners, that one problem to help is that they often
can't read what's written on Japanese websites.
Some convenient tool, that is easy to install as extension for Chrome is
called rikaikun:
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/jipdnfibhldikgcjhfnomkfpcebammhp

It helps a lot to translate city names for example or small paragraphs,
probably not complete websites (and no flash and images).

Otherwise don't hesitate to ask in English on the OSM talk-ja mailing list
or in IRC (irc.oftc.net #sinsai-info).
Even if the people there mainly use Japanese, there will be someone
to answer your questions or help with translations.

Daniel



2011/3/16 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 If you want to help mapping Japan and don't know where, take a look at this
 map:

 http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=667dc8e453c347cfb89a846d6dffb61d

 Orange: Tsunami affected area
 Purple: areas with many people at the moment

 Thank you to Ikiya for this information!

 Daniel

 http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=667dc8e453c347cfb89a846d6dffb61d

 2011/3/16 Tomomichi Hayakawa tom.hayak...@gmail.com

 Now we are mapping around tsunami/earthquake afflicted area.
 Broad area has affected, so we need help to create base map.
 Please help us.

 There are some high-resolution  Bing area around tohoku.
 Aomori, Hachinohe, Sanriku (Kamaishi to Miyako),
 Sendai, Kurihara, ichinoseki,Oou, Hanamaki, Morioka, Iwaki ...etc
 Here is a Bing-area map on google map.

 http://maps.google.co.jp/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enbrcurrent=3,0x34674e0fd77f192f:0xf54275d47c665244,0msa=0ll=39.491324,141.152344spn=3.598772,6.421509z=8msid=214659934638657454830.00049e3467120e402f8cb

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Re: [OSM-ja] [OSM-talk] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Tohoku/Japan

2011-03-16 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
If you want to help mapping Japan and don't know where, take a look at this
map:
http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=667dc8e453c347cfb89a846d6dffb61d

Orange: Tsunami affected area
Purple: areas with many people at the moment

Thank you to Ikiya for this information!

Daniel
http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=667dc8e453c347cfb89a846d6dffb61d

2011/3/16 Tomomichi Hayakawa tom.hayak...@gmail.com

 Now we are mapping around tsunami/earthquake afflicted area.
 Broad area has affected, so we need help to create base map.
 Please help us.

 There are some high-resolution  Bing area around tohoku.
 Aomori, Hachinohe, Sanriku (Kamaishi to Miyako),
 Sendai, Kurihara, ichinoseki,Oou, Hanamaki, Morioka, Iwaki ...etc
 Here is a Bing-area map on google map.

 http://maps.google.co.jp/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enbrcurrent=3,0x34674e0fd77f192f:0xf54275d47c665244,0msa=0ll=39.491324,141.152344spn=3.598772,6.421509z=8msid=214659934638657454830.00049e3467120e402f8cb

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Re: [OSM-ja] [OSM-talk] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Tohoku/Japan

2011-03-16 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
I heard from several foreigners, that one problem to help is that they often
can't read what's written on Japanese websites.
Some convenient tool, that is easy to install as extension for Chrome is
called rikaikun:
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/jipdnfibhldikgcjhfnomkfpcebammhp

It helps a lot to translate city names for example or small paragraphs,
probably not complete websites (and no flash and images).

Otherwise don't hesitate to ask in English on the OSM talk-ja mailing list
or in IRC (irc.oftc.net #sinsai-info).
Even if the people there mainly use Japanese, there will be someone
to answer your questions or help with translations.

Daniel



2011/3/16 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 If you want to help mapping Japan and don't know where, take a look at this
 map:

 http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=667dc8e453c347cfb89a846d6dffb61d

 Orange: Tsunami affected area
 Purple: areas with many people at the moment

 Thank you to Ikiya for this information!

 Daniel

 http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=667dc8e453c347cfb89a846d6dffb61d

 2011/3/16 Tomomichi Hayakawa tom.hayak...@gmail.com

 Now we are mapping around tsunami/earthquake afflicted area.
 Broad area has affected, so we need help to create base map.
 Please help us.

 There are some high-resolution  Bing area around tohoku.
 Aomori, Hachinohe, Sanriku (Kamaishi to Miyako),
 Sendai, Kurihara, ichinoseki,Oou, Hanamaki, Morioka, Iwaki ...etc
 Here is a Bing-area map on google map.

 http://maps.google.co.jp/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enbrcurrent=3,0x34674e0fd77f192f:0xf54275d47c665244,0msa=0ll=39.491324,141.152344spn=3.598772,6.421509z=8msid=214659934638657454830.00049e3467120e402f8cb

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Re: [OSM-ja] [osmfj] Re: World Support for Japan Crisis Response

2011-03-15 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
2011/3/15 Yoichi Seino say.n...@gmail.com

 清野です。

 Newsletterについては、

 http://openstreetmap.jp/crisis/


Thank you!
I forgot the link to this page.

I think it's a bit difficult for Peter and other foreigners to navigate
there, because it's all in Japanese.
But it might be a good idea to create a called Book (Drupal terms) or
Category to publish such a newsletter there.

It's important IMO to compress the amount of new information to have quick
access to the latest news from several sources.
because I'm more an IT person than a writer, there are probably people who
have some experience or advice.

Daniel







 を活用してください。
 だれでもアカウントを作れるようになっていますし、
 権限が必要であれば付与することが可能です。

 よろしくお願いします。


 2011/3/15 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de:
  Imaki-san,
  Thank you! I think it's difficult to oversee all current activities.
  I assume that all important data sources OSM can use are listed here:
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami
  Digital Globe editors are limited to 20
  accounts:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami/List_of_DigitalGlobe_Editors
 
  Probably the main focus of OSM community is this page:
 http://sinsai.info/
  I think some daily newsletter (or maybe even twice a day) in both
  Japanese/English, that summarize the latest achievements and changes,
 would
  be very valuable for everyone. There are probably too many news out there
  right now and too many emails sent to mailing lists to pick the important
  one for each of us.
  My Japanese skills and available time are probably not sufficient to lead
  this. I think it's difficult to get started, so maybe something like this
  exists already?
  Daniel
 
  2011/3/15 Hiroo Imaki hi...@angeli.org
 
  Daniel,
 
  I would like to organize my thoughts and prioritize tasks I can help
  on recent OSM-J work with people around Seattle. I know many people in
  Japan working hard to update OSM but can some of OSM-J leaders can
  sort out what kind of task they want to get done and let us know in
  English? I know Furuhashi-san and Seino-san but they must have too
  much work. Is there any other person I can talk to about current OSM
  priorities?
 
  I am little bit confused about which remote sensing data I can use for
  OSM mapping. Can we use air photo's Chiriin took after the disaster?
 
  Thank you so much for communicating with rest of the world!!
 
  Hiroo
 
  2011/3/14 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de:
   Hi Peter,
   (I'm sending this also to the OSM lists)
  
   I think it's impossible to avoid duplicate work. Mostly due to the
   language
   barrier.
   Since Sunday I'm logging the IRC channel(s) of the OSM community. It
 was
   increased to three channels, because the traffic was too high. And
 still
   the
   logs are long. Always there are about 50 people on each
   channel. http://openstreetmap.jp/irclog/
   I think one important point for OSM and OSGeo communities is, that
 data
   is
   really freely available to be possible to be published and processed
 by
   the
   mass of users. I have written this post on the mailing list one year
  
   ago:
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2010-March/002549.html
   And unfortunately it just happened. The OSM community would produce
   up-to-date maps within an incredible short time, if they had the
   permission
   to use the satellite photos.
   Servers to serve the data are setup in hours, but to convince the
   companies
   to let us use the imagery is extremely annoying and time consuming.
 This
   disaster will not be the last time this happens, I fear.
   Regards,
   Daniel
  
  
  
  
   2011/3/15 Peter Hannah han...@gmail.com
  
   Daniel,
   Yes, I started worrying about duplication of effort the more I saw
 the
   random GIS posts on Skype.  Thank you for your work!  If you don't
   mind, I
   will add you to our subgroup email list to help consolidate the
   efforts.  I
   will look into joining the lists you mention.
   Best regards,
   Peter
  
   On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Daniel Kastl
   daniel.ka...@georepublic.de wrote:
  
   Hello Peter,
   Thank you for your email and please say hello to Jaymes!
   I'm actually on the CrisisCommons list since last Saturday and also
   foundation member of the Japanese OpenStreetMap community.
   We have setup this Ushahidi platform
   (http://www.sinsai.info/ushahidi/)
   and the Japanese OSGeo and OSM community are working to publish data
   sources, that were not freely available until now.
   Other entry pages are:
   http://openstreetmap.jp/crisis/
  
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami
   I think there is a lot of duplicate work done in many groups, who
   don't
   know well about each other. But I think that's OK, because better
   having it
   done twice than not at all. The groups I'm active in are mainly
 local
   people
   and they speak Japanese and are not too familiar with English, so
 this
   is
   for sure

Re: [OSM-ja] [OSM-talk] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Tohoku/Japan

2011-03-15 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
I received an email from Marc (German OSM community) and we want to write
another article on the German OSM blog to tell mappers where they can help:
http://blog.openstreetmap.de/

So my questions:

   - Is this page up-to-date?
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami
   - Are there new resources for imagery? (And how to use them with mapping
   software)
   - Can Geoeye imagery be used for OSM
   - Are there currently areas, that need special help? (Foreigners, who
   were never in Japan probably don't know where to map best)

Daniel




2011/3/16 Tomomichi Hayakawa tom.hayak...@gmail.com

 Now we are mapping around tsunami/earthquake afflicted area.
 Broad area has affected, so we need help to create base map.
 Please help us.

 There are some high-resolution  Bing area around tohoku.
 Aomori, Hachinohe, Sanriku (Kamaishi to Miyako),
 Sendai, Kurihara, ichinoseki,Oou, Hanamaki, Morioka, Iwaki ...etc
 Here is a Bing-area map on google map.

 http://maps.google.co.jp/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enbrcurrent=3,0x34674e0fd77f192f:0xf54275d47c665244,0msa=0ll=39.491324,141.152344spn=3.598772,6.421509z=8msid=214659934638657454830.00049e3467120e402f8cb

 Till new imagely will come, we are trying to create base map
 as fare as we can.

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[OSM-ja] DLR satellite images

2011-03-14 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi,

I just found this link of the German Aerospace Center (DLR), that
processed satellite images of the tsunami area.
Here some interactive map: http://www.zki.dlr.de/japan/intmap

http://www.zki.dlr.de/japan/intmapThe satellite image provider is
Rapideye.
I will try to contact them and ask for imagery.

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Re: [OSM-ja] DLR satellite images

2011-03-14 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
And one more link to print maps:
http://www.zki.dlr.de/article/1893

http://www.zki.dlr.de/article/1893Daniel


2011/3/14 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 Hi,

 I just found this link of the German Aerospace Center (DLR), that
 processed satellite images of the tsunami area.
 Here some interactive map: http://www.zki.dlr.de/japan/intmap

 http://www.zki.dlr.de/japan/intmapThe satellite image provider is
 Rapideye.
 I will try to contact them and ask for imagery.

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Re: [OSM-ja] World Support for Japan Crisis Response

2011-03-14 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Imaki-san,

Thank you! I think it's difficult to oversee all current activities.
I assume that all important data sources OSM can use are listed here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunamiDigital
Globe editors are limited to 20 accounts:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami/List_of_DigitalGlobe_Editors

Probably the main focus of OSM community is this page: http://sinsai.info/

I think some daily newsletter (or maybe even twice a day) in both
Japanese/English, that summarize the latest achievements and changes, would
be very valuable for everyone. There are probably too many news out there
right now and too many emails sent to mailing lists to pick the important
one for each of us.
My Japanese skills and available time are probably not sufficient to lead
this. I think it's difficult to get started, so maybe something like this
exists already?

Daniel


2011/3/15 Hiroo Imaki hi...@angeli.org

 Daniel,

 I would like to organize my thoughts and prioritize tasks I can help
 on recent OSM-J work with people around Seattle. I know many people in
 Japan working hard to update OSM but can some of OSM-J leaders can
 sort out what kind of task they want to get done and let us know in
 English? I know Furuhashi-san and Seino-san but they must have too
 much work. Is there any other person I can talk to about current OSM
 priorities?

 I am little bit confused about which remote sensing data I can use for
 OSM mapping. Can we use air photo's Chiriin took after the disaster?

 Thank you so much for communicating with rest of the world!!

 Hiroo

 2011/3/14 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de:
  Hi Peter,
  (I'm sending this also to the OSM lists)
 
  I think it's impossible to avoid duplicate work. Mostly due to the
 language
  barrier.
  Since Sunday I'm logging the IRC channel(s) of the OSM community. It was
  increased to three channels, because the traffic was too high. And still
 the
  logs are long. Always there are about 50 people on each
  channel. http://openstreetmap.jp/irclog/
  I think one important point for OSM and OSGeo communities is, that data
 is
  really freely available to be possible to be published and processed by
 the
  mass of users. I have written this post on the mailing list one year
  ago:
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2010-March/002549.html
  And unfortunately it just happened. The OSM community would produce
  up-to-date maps within an incredible short time, if they had the
 permission
  to use the satellite photos.
  Servers to serve the data are setup in hours, but to convince the
 companies
  to let us use the imagery is extremely annoying and time consuming. This
  disaster will not be the last time this happens, I fear.
  Regards,
  Daniel
 
 
 
 
  2011/3/15 Peter Hannah han...@gmail.com
 
  Daniel,
  Yes, I started worrying about duplication of effort the more I saw the
  random GIS posts on Skype.  Thank you for your work!  If you don't mind,
 I
  will add you to our subgroup email list to help consolidate the efforts.
  I
  will look into joining the lists you mention.
  Best regards,
  Peter
 
  On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Daniel Kastl
  daniel.ka...@georepublic.de wrote:
 
  Hello Peter,
  Thank you for your email and please say hello to Jaymes!
  I'm actually on the CrisisCommons list since last Saturday and also
  foundation member of the Japanese OpenStreetMap community.
  We have setup this Ushahidi platform (http://www.sinsai.info/ushahidi/
 )
  and the Japanese OSGeo and OSM community are working to publish data
  sources, that were not freely available until now.
  Other entry pages are:
  http://openstreetmap.jp/crisis/
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami
  I think there is a lot of duplicate work done in many groups, who don't
  know well about each other. But I think that's OK, because better
 having it
  done twice than not at all. The groups I'm active in are mainly local
 people
  and they speak Japanese and are not too familiar with English, so this
 is
  for sure making it difficult.
  I recommend you to join the following Japanese mailing lists:
  http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeojapan-discuss
  http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
  There are many readers involved in OpenSource GIS and OSM, who have
 good
  contacts to mapping companies and data providers as well as the
  government. It's no problem at all to post in English. A couple of
 emails
  from CrisisCommons have been forwarded to this list also from my side.
  Best regards,
  Daniel
 
  2011/3/15 Peter Hannah han...@gmail.com
 
  Mr. Kastl,
  I am a friend and colleague of Jaymes Cloninger.  Jaymes gave me your
  contact information so that I may request a favor.
  I'm volunteering for a group named Crisis
  Commons http://crisiscommons.org/.  CrisisCommons, along with our
 friends

Re: [OSM-ja] Ushahidiサイト→支援求む

2011-03-12 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Do we need to prepare some Apache settings for example?

Daniel


2011/3/12 TANAKA Toshihisa tosih...@netfort.gr.jp

 関さん:

 としです.

  とりあえず、Georepublic サーバにてUshahidi のインストールが完了しました。
  日本語化もできているようです。

 すばらしいです.ありがとうございます.

 IRC を見ていると,現在の sinsai.info は検索できなかったり twitter 拾えなかったり
 レポート投稿が反映されて無さそうなので,早めに新サーバに移行したほうが良さそうです.

 さしあたり,二つの Ushahidi の設定を見比べながら・・・と思うのですが,
 アカウント発行頂くことは可能でしょうか?もし可能であれば,
 ユーザ名:tosihisa
 でお願いします.

 取り急ぎ,ではこれにて.


 2011年3月12日18:10 Hal SEKI / Cirius Technologies s...@cirius.co.jp:
  関です。
  遅くなってすみません。
  とりあえず、Georepublic サーバにてUshahidi のインストールが完了しました。
  日本語化もできているようです。
  地図の設定方法などがわかりません。
  どのように移行していけばいいでしょうか。
  誰かと相談しながら進められると嬉しいです。
 
  関
 
  2011/3/12 S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp:
  東です。
  先ほどやっと帰宅し、ひとつインタビューを受けて、力尽きたところです :)
 
  関さん、セットアップありがとうございます。
  下記に日本語ファイルを置きましたので
  インストールディレクトリ直下に回答して上書きして頂ければOKです。
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/201898/osm/l10n/japanese_utf8.zip
  同梱されている「readme_ja.html」はインストール手順です。
 
  あとUshahidiの方から2つ支援の申し入れを受けていて
  (ひとつはとしさんにお願いしようとした件です)
  その件についても別メールで相談させてください。
  サイト設置に関わる話です。
  よろしくお願いします。
 
  11/03/12 Hal SEKI / Cirius Technologies s...@cirius.co.jp:
  関です。
  Amazonから支援いただけることになったので、AWS でアカウント取ってセットアップします。
  --
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  Chief of Cirius Labs.
 
  2011/3/12 S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp:
  関さん、ありがとうございます。
  設置よろしくお願いします。帰ったらにほんごふぁいるをおくりますので上書きしてください。
  東
 
  2011年3月12日土曜日 Hal SEKI / Cirius Technologies s...@cirius.co.jp:
  関です。
 
  Daniel に、新サーバをセットアップしてもらいました。
  ドイツのホスティングサーバを使っているのでレイテンシは少し遅いですが、今のサーバよりは性能がいいと思います。
  一台で捌き切れなければ、さらに借りてロードバランスしたいと思います。
  今から Ushahidi のセットアップを開始します。
  できるところまでやっておいて、今のサーバへのログインアカウントをいただき次第データ移行作業をしたいと思います。
  手助けいただける方、新サーバへのログインアカウントを発行しますので、公開鍵を私宛にご連絡ください。
 
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  [AdLocal] http://adlocal.jp/
 
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  [Tel]03-6440-
  http://www.cirius.co.jp/
 
 
 
 
  2011/3/12 S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp:
  三浦さん、関さん、お申し出ありがとうございます。
  現在としさんにメールは転送させて頂いているのですが
  もうちょっと良いサーバに移設できるならそうした方が
  良いな、と思っているところです。
  そちらと併せてみなさんでご検討頂ければ幸いです。すみません。
  東
 
  11/03/12 Hal SEKI / Cirius Technologies s...@cirius.co.jp:
  関です。
 
  私もサポートできますので、サーバへのアクセス権をいただけますでしょうか。
  ID:hal_sk
 
  以上、よろしくお願いします。
 
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  2011/3/12 Hiroshi Miura miur...@linux.com:
  入れました。
 
  ありがとうございます。
  三浦
 
  (2011年03月12日 04:48), S.Higashi wrote:
  反応が遅れてすみません。
  どなたか三浦さんのユーザ登録をやってくださったようですね。
  ありがとうございます。
  東
 
  11/03/12 TANAKA Toshihisa tosih...@netfort.gr.jp:
  としです.
 
  やります。アカウントください。
  ID: miurahr
  恐らく東さんが既に三浦さんのアカウントを上記で作成されています.
  あ,すみません.この話は,Ushahidi サーバへの話でした.
  すみません,勘違いしていました(寝ぼけています).ご容赦下さい m(_ _)m
 
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Re: [OSM-ja] Ushahidiサイト

2011-03-11 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Good idea!

2011/3/11 古橋大地 tai...@taichi.jp

 古橋です。


 以下の緊急観測画像のパブリックドメインでの公開を
 JAXAに申請しませんか!

 ALOS衛星の決定済みの観測情報 3月12日(土)AVNIR-2/PRISM同時観測:10時56分頃 (JST)

 >臼田さん他、防災科研の方ご協力頂ければ幸いです!!


 2011年3月11日18:38 Toshikazu SETO gr000...@ed.ritsumei.ac.jp:
  瀬戸です.
 
  まず,大きく被害が出ている地域のマッパーさんを
  含め皆さんの無事を祈っています.
 
  東さんのUshahidi,三浦さんの提案など
  私も微力ながらお手伝い出来ればと思います.
 
  被害が大きい地域以外にも関東では
  多くの鉄道がストップし津波の危険もあるようなので
  広域避難場所などの情報も必要かもしれません.
 
 
  --
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  Ph.D student, Graduate School of Letters,
  Ritsumeikan University
  e-mail: gr000...@ed.ritsumei.ac.jp
 
 
   古橋大地 tai...@taichi.jp wrote:
 古橋です。
 
 ありがとうございます!!
 できる範囲で、少しでも被害が減るようにがんばりましょう!
 
 
 
 2011年3月11日18:26 S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp:
  東です。
 
  役に立つかどうか分かりませんが
  とりあえずUshahidiサイトを立ち上げました。
  (というか試験設置していたサイトを流用しました)
  使い方はこちら
  http://maps.wizu.jp/wp/?p=1775
 
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Re: [OSM-ja] Ushahidiサイト

2011-03-11 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
If there is a need for a WMS server, let me know!

Daniel


2011/3/11 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 Good idea!

 2011/3/11 古橋大地 tai...@taichi.jp

 古橋です。


 以下の緊急観測画像のパブリックドメインでの公開を
 JAXAに申請しませんか!

 ALOS衛星の決定済みの観測情報 3月12日(土)AVNIR-2/PRISM同時観測:10時56分頃 (JST)

 >臼田さん他、防災科研の方ご協力頂ければ幸いです!!


 2011年3月11日18:38 Toshikazu SETO gr000...@ed.ritsumei.ac.jp:
  瀬戸です.
 
  まず,大きく被害が出ている地域のマッパーさんを
  含め皆さんの無事を祈っています.
 
  東さんのUshahidi,三浦さんの提案など
  私も微力ながらお手伝い出来ればと思います.
 
  被害が大きい地域以外にも関東では
  多くの鉄道がストップし津波の危険もあるようなので
  広域避難場所などの情報も必要かもしれません.
 
 
  --
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  Research Fellow of the JSPS
  Ph.D student, Graduate School of Letters,
  Ritsumeikan University
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   古橋大地 tai...@taichi.jp wrote:
 古橋です。
 
 ありがとうございます!!
 できる範囲で、少しでも被害が減るようにがんばりましょう!
 
 
 
 2011年3月11日18:26 S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp:
  東です。
 
  役に立つかどうか分かりませんが
  とりあえずUshahidiサイトを立ち上げました。
  (というか試験設置していたサイトを流用しました)
  使い方はこちら
  http://maps.wizu.jp/wp/?p=1775
 
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Re: [OSM-ja] Ushahidiサイト

2011-03-11 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Today I received two or three notifications about problems in the Hetzner
network. Maybe this was the reason.
If necessary I can increase the memory of the Virtual Machine.

Daniel


2011/3/11 Hiroshi Miura (momokuri) miur...@linux.com

 サーバ遅すぎないか。
 どういう環境ですか。

 ダニエルさん、増強できたりしませんか。

 三浦

 2011-03-11 (金) の 21:44 +0900 に S.Higashi さんは書きました:
  ありがとうございます。
  help.osm.jp
  h.osm.jp
  いずれからもリダイレクトされるようにしました。
  上記URLで案内をお願いします。>みなさま
 
  2011/3/11, Hiroshi Miura (momokuri) miur...@linux.com:
   DONE!
  
   2011-03-11 (金) の 21:08 +0900 に S.Higashi さんは書きました:
   thanks i'll try it!
  
   11/03/11 Hiroshi Miura (momokuri) miur...@linux.com:
help.osm.jp 202.172.25.16
h.osm.jp 202.172.25.16
   
とかのドメイン設定できます!
   
東さん、受けられますか?
   
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Re: [OSM-ja] Ushahidiサイト

2011-03-11 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
2011/3/12 S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp

 Hi Emilie,
 Thanks for your advice.

 2011/3/12, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com:
  Hello,
 
  there might be a way to host aerial imagery on openaerial.

 Yes, it is very important.
 We are trying to ready for afeter-earthquake iamgeries.
 Planning to serve WMS.


Hi Emilie,

Being able to host  on OpenAerial Map would be most convenient, I think.
When we get data, how to proceed? Who needs to be contacted then?

Daniel






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  Emilie Laffray
 
  2011/3/11 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de
 
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  If necessary I can increase the memory of the Virtual Machine.
 
 
 

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Re: [OSM-ja] 地理情報の提供

2011-03-06 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hello Mori-san,

Your comment is very true, I think. And we should learn from previous data
imports and don't do same mistakes again.
If there is nobody to maintain imported data, the data will not improve on
the long term. In my opinion it's much easier to find new mappers if there
is still a lot of things to map than if most of the data is already there.

So my idea would be:

   1. Develop some tools/download service to load *small* extents of vector
   data into JOSM for example (like a GPS track)
   2. Then users can compare existing data and edit it manually
   3. When the result looks good, they can submit the result containing
   Yahoo data and previous edits

I'm against large scale imports that may just make a mess. It already
happened to me, that imports produced duplicate content that was worse than
what I have digitized manually (ie. river imports or national roads).

So overall I support small scale imports with manual checks of local
experts.

Daniel



2011/3/7 Toru Mori (森 亮) morit...@orkney.co.jp

 東さん
 moritoruです。

 ヤフー(旧アルプス社)のデータ提供は大変良いことだと思います。
 このデータは、地理院の測量成果に基づいて丁寧に作成されているため、精度的にはきわめて信頼性の高いものです。
 OSMの整備の進んでいない地域では、これで一気に整備がほぼ完了状態になる期待もあります。

 一方において、すでに整備の進んだ地域では、そのデータとの整合性の問題が出てくると思います。
 以前、アメリカで全米のTiger LineをOSMに一気に投入した際に、同じようなことがあったと思います。当時も賛否両論あったようです。

 私自身も横浜南部でログ取りをしていて痛感していますが、地図会社の測量精度の方が私のログよりも圧倒的に高いので、(せっかくの「my測量成果」が消えてしまうので悲しいですけど)ヤフー地図でリプレイスしてもらった方が、後の利用者の観点からは公益性が高いと思います。

 今回の進展について、状況のアップデートを楽しみにしております。

 On 2011/03/06, at 23:51, S.Higashi wrote:

  東です。
 
  この件、直前までドタバタで社名をお知らせできずに申し訳なかったのですが
  本日、ジオロケーションカンファレンス
  http://gihyo.jp/event/2011/geoconf
  の場で正式発表がありましたので改めてご報告いたします。
 
 http://www.osmf.jp/news/sokuhouyahoojapannohoyuusuruchizushisanwoosmniteikyou
 
  提供社名はYahoo! Japanです。
  具体的なデータ等が入手できるのはもう少し先になりそうです。
  進展がありましたら別途お知らせします。
 
  11/03/04 S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp:
  東です。
 
  各位
 
  OSMFJからのお知らせです。
 
  ある地理情報プロバイダより地理情報の提供を打診されています。
  そのための提供手段、管理方法などについて、地理情報プロバイダと
  OSMFJとの間で書面を取り交わす準備をしているところです。
  地理情報プロバイダはOSMのライセンスのことは認識、同意した上で、
  みなさんと同じ立場であるOSM1ユーザとして提供する意思を持っておられます。
  OSMFJは地理情報の提供を好意的に受け取り、
  OSMでの提供データ利用について支援していきたいと考えています。
 
  現在の段階では社名は申し上げられないのですが
  分かっている情報をお知らせ致します。
 
  1.提供予定のデータ
  ・ベクターデータ
  ・範囲:国内全域
  ・測地系:WGS84
  ・対象:道路データ、POI(ポイント+文字情報)
  ・作成年:数年前(詳細確認はこれから)
 
  2.提供データの管理
  ・データ一式はOSMFJで管理します。
  ・作業手順を整備した上で、OSMメンバーなら誰でも利用(OSMへ投入)
  できるようにします。
 
  3.OSMへの投入方法
  ・具体的な方法はこれから検討致します。このMLの場でも別途相談したいと思います。
  ・まずは試行モデルとして小さなエリアで試行して結果を評価し、
  その後既存データの少ない地域を中心に投入するような進め方が
  良いと考えています。
 
  ご意見、ご要望などありましたらお知らせください。
 
 
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Re: [OSM-ja] Coast夫妻来日(Was:Re: Hurricane Coast さん3月来日)

2011-03-05 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
2011/3/6 Yoichi Seino say.n...@gmail.com

 清野です。

 月曜日の鎌倉なのですが、
 何か英語のガイドなどのようなものを用意したほうがよろしいでしょうか?
 といっても、Wikipediaの英語版を夫妻の分プリントアウトしてお渡しするくらいかもしれませんが…。
 いかがでしょうか?


In Japan you can often get free English maps and guides of a touristic place
at the station (tourist information). It's rather compact but usually
sufficient.

Daniel




 2011年2月20日9:49 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de:
 
 
  2011/2/20 大和田 健一 ml.ohw...@gmail.com
 
  あの〜。
  長谷観音は最初から予定に入っていて。
  長谷寺のことなんですが。
 
 
 
 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%95%B7%E8%B0%B7%E5%AF%BA_%28%E9%8E%8C%E5%80%89%E5%B8%82%29
  長谷寺(はせでら)は、神奈川県鎌倉市にある浄土宗系統の単立寺院。
  山号を海光山、院号を慈照院と称し、長谷観音と通称される。
 
  Just want to mention, that when you visit 長谷寺 as a foreigner you will
  receive small but nice guide in English.
  Daniel
 
 
 
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   Danielさん、ありがとございます。
   長谷寺ですね。了解しました。ぜひ行ってみたいと思います。
   ルートを少し訂正しました。
   http://osm-syj.crans.org/idx/917
  
   東
  
   11/02/19 Daniel Kastldan...@georepublic.de:
   Higashi-san,
  
   I would recommend to add Hasedera to the tour.
   When I went with tourists to Kamakura, it was one of the temples
   everyone
   liked a lot.
  
   Daniel
  
  
   2011/2/19 S.Higashis_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp
  
   東です。
  
   参加者のみなさん、平日にも関わらずお申込み頂きありがとうございます。
   ものすごく楽しみになってきました!
  
   大和田さんにご協力頂き、おおまかに以下のようなコースで考えています。
   懇親会の場所はご夫妻の宿泊場所が分かり次第決めたいと思います。
   ご希望、アイディアなどありましたらどんどん追加お願いします。
  
   http://osm-syj.crans.org/idx/915
  
   ◆11時 JR 鎌倉駅 集合
   ◆小町通り散策、昼食
   ◆鶴岡八幡宮、源氏池
   ◆江ノ電 で 長谷駅 に移動
   ◆長谷観音、鎌倉大仏
   ◆江ノ電 で 鎌倉駅 に戻る
   ◆夕方、東京(または横浜)へ移動して懇親会
  
   尚、当日はロギングの一方でWalking-papersを配って
   手書きPOIマッピングをやるつもりです。
  
   よろしくお願いします。
  
   11/02/19 大和田 健一ml.ohw...@gmail.com:
   ◆鎌倉マッピングパーティー&懇親会
   http://atnd.org/events/13056
  
   参加者はこんな感じです。
  
   higa4 (東)
   ohwada (大和田)
   bigmap-noza (野崎)
   今井良
   ferrisgis (フェリスGIS研究会) 数名
  
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   東です。
  
   スティーブ&ハリケーン・コースト夫妻の来日スケジュールが
   おおよそ以下のように固まりました。
  
  
  
 https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhvlrTvfS0RAdDByY0tDS2dIN3IzQjRzckFBOW1pWnchl=jaauthkey=CNyJvVU
   夫妻よりOSMJコミュニティメンバーとの懇親の機会を持ちたいとの
   ご希望がありましたのでOSMJとして下記2つのイベントを
   開催したいと思います。
   それぞれATNDで申込受付致しますので、この貴重な機会に
   ぜひ夫妻と会っていろんな話をしてみませんか。
  
   尚、夫妻とはなかなか連絡が取れないため、予定は今後変更される
   可能性があります。
   変更が分かり次第お知らせしますが、予めご承知おきください。
  
   ◆コースト夫妻歓迎懇親会
   日時:3/5(土)18時〜
   場所:未定(OSCより移動。都内)
   http://atnd.org/events/13057
  
   ◆鎌倉マッピングパーティー&懇親会
   日時:3/7(月)11時〜
   懇親会の場所は未定
   http://atnd.org/events/13056
  
   また、これ以外にもコースト夫妻は下記2つのイベントで講演されます。
   ご興味ある方はぜひこちらもご参照ください。
  
   ◆Web   Wireless GIS 2011
   日時:3/3(木)〜3/4(金)
   場所:京都大学
   http://www.w2gis.org/
  
   ◆ジオロケーション・カンファレンス
   日時:3/6(日)13時〜
   場所:東京ミッドタウン
   (懇親会あり)
   http://gihyo.jp/event/2011/geoconf
  
  
   11/01/30 TANAKA Toshihisatosih...@netfort.gr.jp:
   とし@仕事が超多忙で動けずです.
  
   清野です。
   ...
   Hurricane Coastさんとしては5日はどう?とおっしゃっています。
   (日本滞在自体は3月2日(水)-11日(金)だそうです。後半は東京観光をされるみたいです。)
   僕も5日6日と東京に行く予定でいましたが、5日であれば参加してもいいかな、
   と思うようになりました。
  
   3月5日(土)ですね.何とか仕事の折り合いをつけて参加出来ればと考えています.
  
   #それまでにもうちょい英語を何とかしないと(汗
  
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Re: [OSM-ja] [osmfj] Re: osm.jp and openstreetmap.jp

2011-03-05 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Thank you! It works now.
Everything points now to http://openstreetmap.jp/

Daniel

#
# Catch all 301 redirect
#
VirtualHost *:80
ServerAdmin webmas...@openstreetmap.jp
ServerName osm.jp
ServerAlias *.openstreetmap.jp *.osm.jp
オープンストリートマップ.nethttp://xn--kck4a4ata1ge8c5fydvef.net*.
オープンストリートマップ.net http://xn--kck4a4ata1ge8c5fydvef.net オープンストリートマッ
プ.com http://xn--udk.com
*.オープンストリートマップ.comhttp://xn--kck4a4ata1ge8c5fydvef.com

Redirect 301 / http://openstreetmap.jp/
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2011/3/6 Hiroshi Miura (momokuri) miur...@linux.com

 I am at Geolocation Conference 2011 in Yahoo! Japan.
 Just updated DNS records of

  osm.jp
  openstreetmap.jp
  オープンストリートマップ.net http://xn--kck4a4ata1ge8c5fydvef.net
  オープンストリートマップ.com http://xn--kck4a4ata1ge8c5fydvef.com
 to point 78.47.235.220

 Hiroshi


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  I think currently there are some problems again (or still) with osm.jp
  and openstreetmap.jp
  I would like to help, but I think this requires
* changes in the DNS record for openstreetmap.jp (something
  wrong there?)
* fixes at the server hosting osm.jp (why not pointing
  to 78.47.235.220 ?)
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[OSM-ja] osm.jp and openstreetmap.jp

2011-03-04 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi list,

I think currently there are some problems again (or still) with osm.jp and
openstreetmap.jp
I would like to help, but I think this requires

   - changes in the DNS record for openstreetmap.jp (something wrong there?)
   - fixes at the server hosting osm.jp (why not pointing to 78.47.235.220
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Re: [OSM-ja] http://www.openstreetmap.jp/

2011-02-23 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Shibata-san,

I quickly checked before and ping goes to the right server IP address.
But there it somehow doesn't show document root.

I removed the virtual host settings and it should go to default Apache root
directory: /var/www/
But it still tells me in Google Chrome Redirecting to
http://openstreetmap.jp/; if I try to load the page ... looks like a loop.
Apache though is just the default setting as it was installed ... nothing
special there.
Are the DNS settings OK?

Daniel


2011/2/23 SHIBATA Akira h...@eva.gr.jp

 柴田(あ)です。

 20110223110359.ga29...@ns.ribbon.or.jp の、
   [OSM-ja] http://www.openstreetmap.jp/; において、
   Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:03:59 +0900 発信のメイルで
   ribbonさんは書きました:

  なんにもコンテンツがないんですが、これで良かったんでしたっけ?
 
  http://www.osm.jp/ は通常通りです。

 教えてくださってありがとうございます。

 今気づいて確認してみましたが、一応なんか出てますと
 いうか、リニューアル中画面が出ますが、真っ白だったりしますか?

 サイト移動の途中なので表示に不具合が出ることがありますが、
 お気づきの点がありましたら、お教えください。


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Re: [OSM-ja] Coast夫妻来日(Was:Re: Hurricane Coast さん3月来日)

2011-02-18 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Higashi-san,

I would recommend to add Hasedera to the tour.
When I went with tourists to Kamakura, it was one of the temples everyone
liked a lot.

Daniel


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 東です。

 参加者のみなさん、平日にも関わらずお申込み頂きありがとうございます。
 ものすごく楽しみになってきました!

 大和田さんにご協力頂き、おおまかに以下のようなコースで考えています。
 懇親会の場所はご夫妻の宿泊場所が分かり次第決めたいと思います。
 ご希望、アイディアなどありましたらどんどん追加お願いします。

 http://osm-syj.crans.org/idx/915

 ◆11時 JR 鎌倉駅 集合
 ◆小町通り散策、昼食
 ◆鶴岡八幡宮、源氏池
 ◆江ノ電 で 長谷駅 に移動
 ◆長谷観音、鎌倉大仏
 ◆江ノ電 で 鎌倉駅 に戻る
 ◆夕方、東京(または横浜)へ移動して懇親会

 尚、当日はロギングの一方でWalking-papersを配って
 手書きPOIマッピングをやるつもりです。

 よろしくお願いします。

 11/02/19 大和田 健一 ml.ohw...@gmail.com:
  ◆鎌倉マッピングパーティー&懇親会
  http://atnd.org/events/13056
 
  参加者はこんな感じです。
 
  higa4 (東)
  ohwada (大和田)
  bigmap-noza (野崎)
  今井良
  ferrisgis (フェリスGIS研究会) 数名
 
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  東です。
 
  スティーブ&ハリケーン・コースト夫妻の来日スケジュールが
  おおよそ以下のように固まりました。
 
 https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhvlrTvfS0RAdDByY0tDS2dIN3IzQjRzckFBOW1pWnchl=jaauthkey=CNyJvVU
  夫妻よりOSMJコミュニティメンバーとの懇親の機会を持ちたいとの
  ご希望がありましたのでOSMJとして下記2つのイベントを
  開催したいと思います。
  それぞれATNDで申込受付致しますので、この貴重な機会に
  ぜひ夫妻と会っていろんな話をしてみませんか。
 
  尚、夫妻とはなかなか連絡が取れないため、予定は今後変更される
  可能性があります。
  変更が分かり次第お知らせしますが、予めご承知おきください。
 
  ◆コースト夫妻歓迎懇親会
  日時:3/5(土)18時〜
  場所:未定(OSCより移動。都内)
  http://atnd.org/events/13057
 
  ◆鎌倉マッピングパーティー&懇親会
  日時:3/7(月)11時〜
  懇親会の場所は未定
  http://atnd.org/events/13056
 
  また、これ以外にもコースト夫妻は下記2つのイベントで講演されます。
  ご興味ある方はぜひこちらもご参照ください。
 
  ◆Web  Wireless GIS 2011
  日時:3/3(木)〜3/4(金)
  場所:京都大学
  http://www.w2gis.org/
 
  ◆ジオロケーション・カンファレンス
  日時:3/6(日)13時〜
  場所:東京ミッドタウン
  (懇親会あり)
  http://gihyo.jp/event/2011/geoconf
 
 
  11/01/30 TANAKA Toshihisatosih...@netfort.gr.jp:
  とし@仕事が超多忙で動けずです.
 
  清野です。
  ...
  Hurricane Coastさんとしては5日はどう?とおっしゃっています。
  (日本滞在自体は3月2日(水)-11日(金)だそうです。後半は東京観光をされるみたいです。)
  僕も5日6日と東京に行く予定でいましたが、5日であれば参加してもいいかな、
  と思うようになりました。
 
  3月5日(土)ですね.何とか仕事の折り合いをつけて参加出来ればと考えています.
 
  #それまでにもうちょい英語を何とかしないと(汗
 
  取り急ぎ,ではこれにて.
 
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[OSM-ja] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM user groups

2011-02-11 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
For local OSM groups:


-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --
Von: Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de
Datum: 11. Februar 2011 22:13
Betreff: [OSM-talk] OSM user groups
An: t...@openstreetmap.org


Hi,

as some might know, the German division has a nice map of all local groups
at www.openstreetmap.de.
Inspired by this one, I created an international version and a simple bot
collecting all together.

So if you put this on the page of your local meeting wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:User_group
then you will appear after while here:
http://ikaria.informatik.uni-rostock.de/mm337/osm/usergroups/

Would be very interesting where in the world is OSM a big topic and if they
are similar organised like here. So I would be glad if you would notify on
the localised mailinglists etc.

regards
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Re: [OSM-ja] Bing 航空写真の道路ベクタライズ(半自動トレース)

2011-02-03 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
... and if you want to see a demo and your OS doesn't know what to do with
Silverlight, then you can try this:
http://maps.qualitystreetmap.org/bingtracing/

http://maps.qualitystreetmap.org/bingtracing/Daniel


2011/2/4 Tomomichi Hayakawa tom.hayak...@gmail.com

 Tomです。

 この記事、今朝、電車の中で見て、思わずぶっ飛びました^^;;;

 http://opengeodata.org/automatic-road-detection-from-imagery

 で、こちらのテストサイトを弄ってみました。
 http://magicshop.cloudapp.net/
 サンプルアプリでは、まだ充分にトレースしてくれないところもありますが、
 これが精度を上げると、凄いですね。

 住宅街のクネクネした道路のトレースに活躍できそうな予感です。



 2011年2月4日10:25 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp:
  Bing航空写真のベクタライズ半自動トレースの内容が公開されました。
  昨年12月、マイクロソフトからOpenStreetMapへBing航空写真の提供が
  始まりました。
  その際にBing航空写真マッピングツールの提供も準備していると
  アナウンスがありました。今回のテスト版はそれかと思います。
 
 http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2011/02/03/automatically-detect-roads-with-bing-aerial-imagery.aspx
 
  デモビデオ
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR0WV2dGIRc
 
  [OSM-talk] magical road detector to play with
  http://www.mail-archive.com/talk@openstreetmap.org/msg35979.html
 
  マイクロソフトはOpenStreetMapユーザーにフィードバックを
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Re: [OSM-ja] Bing の高解像度なエリア

2011-01-29 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Cool!
Thank you!

2011/1/29 K.Shirakata argr...@ub32.org

 白方です。

 最近(?)Bingの高解像度エリアが増えていたようなので、

 http://osm-ja.sourceforge.jp/bing-hires-japan.osm

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Re: [OSM-ja] Bing の高解像度なエリア

2011-01-29 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
What about this idea:

Every month we declare a particular area with good aerial imagery and not
much existing data as the Area of the Month and do some collaborative
mapping there.

Then month by month we will (hopefully) get some nicely mapped area.
We could then also announce the Japan Mapper of the Month according to the
contribution statistics ;-)

Daniel



2011/1/29 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 Cool!
 Thank you!

 2011/1/29 K.Shirakata argr...@ub32.org

 白方です。

 最近(?)Bingの高解像度エリアが増えていたようなので、

 http://osm-ja.sourceforge.jp/bing-hires-japan.osm

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Re: [OSM-ja] Hurricane and Steve Coast in Japan

2011-01-25 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi Hurricane,

Thank you for the updates!
I will also attend the conference as the topics are also quite interesting
for me.

I recommend you a so called Japan Rail Pass (http://www.japanrailpass.net/),
which you only can buy with a tourist visa. It makes travelling very easy,
and the price of a one week ticket is the same as going from Tokyo to Osaka
and back for the regular price. With that pass you will be able to see many
spots. You need to buy this pass before you enter Japan.

If you come for mapping unexplored areas, you can almost go anywhere ;-)
Let's see what the Japanese community can propose as good spots for
travelling. With the rail pass you can get almost anywhere.

Daniel


2011/1/25 Coast, Hurricane hurricane.co...@mapquest.com

  Hi Daniel,

 Steve and I have our dates for our visit!

 We are excited to travel March 1-11, 2011.

 We fly to Osaka first (arriving March 2nd), staying in the area of Kyoto for 
 the

   Web and Wireless GIS(W2GIS) 2011 Symposium, March 3-4.

 After this, we are planning on visiting Tokyo.

 Our dates are relatively flexible between Kyoto and Tokyo.

 It will be our first trip to Japan! Your recommendation of both mapping and 
 sightseeing sounds wonderful.

 Let's try to set up at least one evening for a mappy hour (maps and beer! :)) 
  and some time to get out an map, hopefully the weekend of March 5th, but as 
 of now, we are not sure where we will be. If you have suggestions, we are 
 open to ideas.


 Thank you!

 Happy Mapping,


 Hurricane


 Hi Hurricane,

 Thanks for asking on the Japanese list. I'm pretty sure there will be a
 couple of mappers, who will join.
 If it would be on a weekend, it would be probably easier for people to joina 
 mapping party.
 Have you been to Kyoto already? If it's your first time a combination of
 mapping sightseeing might be a good idea.

 Let us know when you finalized your dates.

 Daniel


 2011/1/11 Coast, Hurricane hurricane.coast at mapquest.com 
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja

 *  Hi OSMers!  My name is Hurricane Coast (username: hurricanecoast), 
 and I will be in** Kyoto around March 2-4  this year (dates are not 
 finalized) attending the Web**  Wireless GIS 2011 conference.  I 
 would love to organize a mapping party and mappy hour  to get to know** the 
 community mappers in the area!** Would anyone be interested?  
 Apologies this message is in English,  I do hope to learn some Japanese** 
 while in Kyoto and Tokyo!  Happy Mapping,  Hurricane** skype: 
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Re: [OSM-ja] Free elevation data Japan

2011-01-23 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Shibata-san,

Thank you! I will take a look.
I was not particularly looking for data to import to OSM. I wanted to use
for routing with bicycles.
I thought, on this list are the experts for Japanese geo-data ;-)

Daniel


2011/1/24 SHIBATA Akira h...@eva.gr.jp

 柴田(あ)です。

 現時点では自由な free のデータについてはしらないのですが、
 去る 2009 年 11 月の東大での FOSS4G で国土地理院の方(だったと
 思います)が利用できるデータがある、とおっしゃり、
 また開示できそうなお話をされていました。

 その場でのお話という状況を考えれば、ある一定の条件を満たせば
 Open Street Map へデータを持っていける、と考えても不自然では
 ないと思います。

 当方の記憶違いでなければ、人体に影響のないような出力で
 空からレーザーで走査して 10cm 単位で、主要な道路の高度を
 取得しているとおっしゃっていたように思います。

 それとは別に Open Street Map にてインポートが可能か
 どうかは当方はしらないです。


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 の、
   [OSM-ja] Free elevation data Japan において、
   Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:41:01 +0900 発信のメイルで
   Daniel Kastlさんは書きました:

 
 
  Hi list,
 
  Does anyone know about freely available elevation data in Japan?
 
  Thanks,
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[OSM-ja] Free elevation data Japan

2011-01-22 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi list,

Does anyone know about freely available elevation data in Japan?

Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-ja] Hurricane Coast さん3月 来日

2011-01-11 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
ダニエルは京都にいると思います。(90%)

2011/1/11 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp

 ikiyaです。

 スティーブさんたちのスケジュールにもよりますが
 京都、関西地区の皆さん、
 なかなかお会いできる機会も無いのでぜひ交流を
 深めてみてはいかがでしょうか。

 SETOさん、清野さん、無理ない範囲で
 ご協力いただければありがたいです。
 Tomさん

  因みに、3月4-5日 と、東京で、OSC東京 がありますね。
 はい、OSC東京が早稲田大学で開催されます。
 改めて告知しますがOSM出展します。
 私は5日(土)参加します。

 スケジュール回答待ちですが東京にも立ち寄られるかもしれません。
 私の予定はそれ次第で決めたいと思います。


 *Yoichi Seino say.n...@gmail.com* wrote:

 清野です。
 反応が鈍くてすみません。

 京都にいらっしゃるのでしたら、
 僕が中心になって対応するべきかと思いました。
 ただ、僕自身も3月5日-6日の土日で東京で学会があるので、
 どうなるか微妙ですが…。
 3月2日以前であれば確実に対応できます。

 OSM関西の方にも告知して、協力を仰ぎたいと思っております。


 2011年1月11日12:41 Tomomichi Hayakawa :

  Tomです。
 
  因みに、3月4-5日 と、東京で、OSC東京 がありますね。
 
 
  2011年1月11日11:15 ikiya :

  ikiyaです。
 
  3月3、4日京都大で開催されるWeb  Wireless GIS 2011
  http://www.w2gis.org/ に
  OSM創始者Steve Coastさんと奥さんのHurricane Coastさんが
  来日されます。
  Steve CoastさんはW2GIS2011で基調講演されます。
  USコロラド在住でHurricane CoastさんもOSMFのメンバーで
  活躍されています。
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:HurricaneCoast
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamasrepus/sets/72157625331400507/with/5202628693/
  今年USデンバーで開催されるSotm2011のオーガナイザーでもあります。
 
  ダニエルさんが回答されましたが
  スケジュールにもよりますがこの機会に交流を深める意味で
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Re: [OSM-ja] Visiting Japan in March

2011-01-10 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi Hurricane,

Thanks for asking on the Japanese list. I'm pretty sure there will be a
couple of mappers, who will join.
If it would be on a weekend, it would be probably easier for people to join
a mapping party.
Have you been to Kyoto already? If it's your first time a combination of
mapping sightseeing might be a good idea.

Let us know when you finalized your dates.

Daniel


2011/1/11 Coast, Hurricane hurricane.co...@mapquest.com

  Hi OSMers!

  My name is Hurricane Coast (username: hurricanecoast), and I will be in
 Kyoto around March 2-4  this year (dates are not finalized) attending the Web
  Wireless GIS 2011 conference.

  I would love to organize a mapping party and mappy hour  to get to know
 the community mappers in the area!
 Would anyone be interested?

  Apologies this message is in English,  I do hope to learn some Japanese
 while in Kyoto and Tokyo!

  Happy Mapping,

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Re: [OSM-talk] address parsing by nominatim

2011-01-09 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
2011/1/10 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net

 On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:15:46 +0100
 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:

  2011/1/9 ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com:
   I surveying from Northern India. I studied how addresses are to be
   tagged in order so nominatim can locate it. That went great. The
   problem is the every house has to be tied to a street (addr:street).
   1) We don't have names for living streets
 
 
  are you sure you are talking about living streets or do you mean
  residential streets?
 
 
   2) We so many times have blocks or sectors (tagged as locality or
   hamlet)
 
 
  locality should be used for uninhabited places
 
 
  sorry, that I cannot help you with your original problem.
 
  cheers,
  Martin
 

 Martin's reply highlights a problem with the eurocentric version of a
 place hierarchy in OSM - it doesn't fit India.


Not only India, also other countries such as Japan have a block address
system, which for example doesn't match with how openaddresses collects data
at the moment.
Here some good explanation: http://sivers.org/jadr

Such a block address system actually has some advantages as well. You don't
have to know the house number to be able to know about where the address is
located. You can take the center point of the block polygon as well and it
will usually be a good approach. With long streets this is usually not
possible.

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[OSM-ja] Japanese Translation of OpenStreetMap Gets Noticed by Microsoft, AOL possible?

2010-12-07 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi list,

Probably some of you already have read this blog post:
http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-gets-noticed-by-microsoft-aol

I'm not sure it would be OK to make an official translation of this article
to Japanese (we could ask the author), but I think it would be a valuable
document to promote OpenStreeetMap to Japanese government officials, etc..

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Re: [OSM-ja] Japanese Translation of OpenStreetMap Gets Noticed by Microsoft, AOL possible?

2010-12-07 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
This is actually the original source:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703296604576005443474685736.html?mod=googlenews_wsj#


2010/12/8 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 Hi list,

 Probably some of you already have read this blog post:
 http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-gets-noticed-by-microsoft-aol

 I'm not sure it would be OK to make an official translation of this article
 to Japanese (we could ask the author), but I think it would be a valuable
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Re: [OSM-ja] OpenStreetMap で Bing 航空写真の利用が始まりました。

2010-12-01 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Other people also experienced some offset of aerial photos here and there as
described here:
http://blog.samat.org/p/Bing-Imagery-Misaligned-at-Lower-Zooms

This seems to be mostly the case on lower zoom levels as I understand.
Probably because photos are often taken from airplane and not from
satellite.

Daniel

http://blog.samat.org/p/Bing-Imagery-Misaligned-at-Lower-Zooms

2010/12/2 Hal SEKI / Cirius Technologies s...@cirius.co.jp

 関です。
 Bing 航空写真素敵ですね。
 自宅の周り(西新宿周辺)は特にずれていませんでした。’
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 2010/12/2 Jun NOGATA noga...@gmail.com:
  こんにちは。のがたです。
 
  2010年12月2日0:00 Masami Asakawa masami.a...@gmail.com:
  まさみん@北海道、です。
 
  Potlatch2で札幌中心部を見てみましたが、
  Bing航空写真、すごいですね。
 
  同時に私の引いた道路がだいぶ曲がっていることもわかったりして(苦笑)
 
  Bingの写真ですが、かなりズレてませんか?
  うちの近くだけかもしれませんが、全体的に南にずれてるので
  使おうか迷ってます。
 
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[OSM-ja] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi Mappers,

This is really big news!

http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing
http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima


Does this mean we can use Bing Aerial Photo in Japan?
That would speedup OSM in Japan by years!

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Re: [OSM-ja] Android用のGPSロガ ーでいいものありますか

2010-11-22 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
2010/11/23 大和田 健一 ml.ohw...@gmail.com

  お勧めのAndroid用GPSロガーはあるでしょうか。

 My Tracks
 http://mytracks.appspot.com/



I'm using MyTracks and it works fine.
But MyTracks shows Google Maps as a background map, so you shouldn't look at
it while mapping ;-)
(my phone has no SIM card - no internet - no Google Maps - no problem :-)

Here is a long list of other Android/OSM software:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Android

Daniel





 GPS ロガーとして最適。
 歩きながら、トレースが確認できる。
 ログ・ファイルは KML形式(GoogleMap用) / GPX形式(OSM用) の両方に対応。
 地図の表示は GoogleMap のみ。
 Gmailのアカウントが登録されていると、GoogleMapのマイマップへの投稿(アッ
 プロード)ができる。
 OSM への投稿は、PC経由。

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  とある人が旅行に行くというので、GPSログを取ってもらおうかなと
  思っています。で、Androidを持っているので、それでログを取って
  もらおうと思っています。
 
  お勧めのAndroid用GPSロガーはあるでしょうか。
 
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[OSM-ja] OSM - ATKIS comparison, was Fwd: [fossgis-verein] OSM-Vergleich mit amtlichen Daten

2010-11-18 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
For all German speaking mappers on this list ;-)

On the German FOSSGIS mailing list the following email was posted just
before.
Some German student wrote a Bachelor thesis comparing OSM data in Germany
with the official data provided by German government (called ATKIS). I
already heard about this thesis at a few months ago at Intergeo conference,
but it wasn't sure it would be OK to publish the results of not.

Since there are quite a few OSM geeks on this list, who are not even scared
of a full thesis in German, here the link so you can easily download it:
http://www.umn-mapserver-community.de/Bachelorthesis_Schoof.zip
(At least the Abstract on page 8 is in English and then you can watch the
maps and charts of course)

Daniel (who did't have time yet to read much either)




-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --
Von: Mareike Schoof msch...@uni-osnabrueck.de
Datum: 18. November 2010 18:41
Betreff: [fossgis-verein] OSM-Vergleich mit amtlichen Daten
An: verein-li...@fossgis.de, talk...@openstreetmap.org


Hallo,

ich möchte auf diesem Wege darauf aufmerksam machen, dass ich eine
Bachelorthesis zum Thema ATKIS-Basis-DLM und OpenStreetMap - Ein
Datenvergleich anhand ausgewählter Gebiete in Niedersachsen verfasst
habe, die für alle Interessierten unter

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Research#Osnabr.C3.BCck

verlinkt ist.

Viele Grüße
Mareike Schoof


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Re: [OSM-ja] 活動用ステッカー

2010-11-14 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Very cool!

Daniel


2010/11/14 LOGLOG logl...@gmail.com

 皆様、ご無沙汰したいます。そして始めまして、
 先日ikiyaさんとの会合で思いついた。イメージを 形にしてみました。
 色は染めていませんので、Hackしてください。
 はがきサイズでちょうどになっています。
 車ではない方は適当にもじってください。

 イメージ
 http://yfrog.com/f/izwmnvj/

 とりあえず完成系
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Mapper_In_Car.GIF

 亜種は大いに結構やっつけて下さい。

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Re: [OSM-ja] Mapquest using OSM for Japan

2010-08-25 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Cool ... still a little bit unfinished though ;-)
Thank you for the notice, Emilie!

Would be nice to get some sponsorship like US does.

Daniel



2010/8/25 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com

 http://new.mapquest.com/?le=thk=8-GbqryThq

 Mapquest is now using OSM for Japan!

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[OSM-ja] new coastline offset

2010-07-09 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi Japan mappers,

It seems to me that the new imported cost line has an offset (checked in
JOSM).
Anyone else made the same observation?

You can take a look around Yokohama Minato Mirai, where the coast line
differs from the mapped features (mapped a lot by me, so I'm pretty sure
that it's not so much wrong).
I also think that it has about the same offset with imported forests, which
is the same data source as the new coast line, right?

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.46143lon=139.638376zoom=18layers=B000FTF
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.14541lon=141.0025zoom=17layers=B000FTF
(Both places use new coast line, checked with JOSM)

Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong?

Daniel


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Re: [OSM-ja] State of the Map 2010 in Spain

2010-05-14 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi Emilie,

I'm pretty sure a lot of people from Japan would like to attend. Me of
course, too.
But Spain is quite far away and flights during summer time are a lot more
expensive than during off season. It's difficult to get a discount ticket
when Japanese students travel to Europe. ;-)
Furthermore there is FOSS4G in Spain just a few weeks later, so the timing
isn't good for those, who would like to attend both (and probably have
FOSS4G as priority like me).
There was some discussion to combine FOSS4G and SOTM, and I'm sure this
would have been great chance for everyone coming from far away.
Unfortunately this idea didn't make it.

Best regards,
Daniel





2010/5/14 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com

 Hello,

 I would like to present an invitation to the people living in Japan to the
 State Of The Map 2010. Currently no one from Japan is signed up to come to
 the State Of The Map, and it is quite a disappointment as I believe this
 conference is the perfect place for people around the world to meet each
 other. I enjoyed tremendously meeting with the Japanese delegates last year.
 It would be disappointing to see that no one from Japan came as this country
 is very important.
 Richard Weait (Canadian) and me would really like to see more people
 especially from Japan.
 I would love to know what are the potential problems for any one of you to
 attend. Depending on the problems, I am sure some arrangement could be
 found.
 In addition, state of countries presentation will be posters and I would
 love to see a State of Japan posters even if no one is coming.

 Sincerely,
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Re: [OSM-ja] 位置ゲー

2010-04-01 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Furuhashi-san,

Just thought you might be interested in this for your talk:

http://en.oreilly.com/where2010/public/schedule/detail/13201
http://assets.en.oreilly.com/1/event/34/Haiti_%20CrisisMapping%20the%20Earthquake%20Presentation.pdf
http://vimeo.com/9182869

Too late? ;-)

Daniel


2010/4/2 古橋大地 tai...@taichi.jp

 みなさま:


 古橋です。

 コメントありがとうございます。
 5分の中になるべく盛り込んでみます。


 あと、 オルソ化空中写真 大謝恩祭り は
 柴田さん約15GBで、他の方もざっと数十から数百GBあたりが平均とすると

 合計数百GB or 数TB くらいでしょうか。

 ざっくり多めに
 「数TBのタイル画像を1ヶ月かけてダウンロードした(が、すべては無理だった)」
 と宣伝しましょうか?



 2010/4/2 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp:
  おはようございます。
 
  凄いですねLT当選! 宜しくお願いいたします。
 
  当日になりましたが
  参考まで2つほど個人的感想、お知らせします。
 
  個人的感想 その1
 
  地震が起こってすぐ1/13に
  ・WikiProject Haitiのページに地図トレースによる災害救援の記述が入りました。
  The OpenStreetMap community can help the response by tracing Yahoo
 imagery
  and other data sources,.
 
  このときHaitiOSM地図とgoogle、yahoo、bing地図で状況確認して驚く。Haiti詳細地図がどのサイトにもない。
  途上国カバーするMap Makerはどうなのかと考えるが、Haiti地図は確認できず。大変なことになると思った。
  マッピング勝負、Default Map攻防がはじまる。
  このときの緊張感は大きかったです。
 
 
 
  個人的感想 その2
 
  多くのメンバーが様々なソースを元にマッピング(地図作成)に夢中になっているなか、
  翌日1/14には
  ・ GeofabrikからハイチOSM地図データ(OSMとshp)の配信が始まる。
  地図トレースに注目していたこの時点でデータ配信がスタートした速さとコンセプトに感服した。
  まして5分間隔での配信。マッパーが編集し続ける地図データをほぼリアルタイム、
  新鮮な情報として供給するフローがすぐ実践されたのにも大感心。凄い!
 
  書いているそばから5分間隔でshpやガーミン形式でデータ配信されるフローは圧巻。
  現地で広くGSPや他の用途に使われOSMが認識された。
 
 
  古橋大地 tai...@taichi.jp wrote:
 
  みなさま:
 
 
 
  古橋です。
 
  オルソ画像ダウンロード作業のみなさま、大変おつかれさまでした。
  ちなみに総ダウンロード量は何GBくらいでしょうか?
 
  ikiyaさんの 3/2 投稿から約1ヶ月。
 
 
  明日のジオメディアサミットLT当選しましたので、
  オルソよ今夜もありがとう ~ さよなら  オルソ化空中写真  大謝恩祭り も
  アピールできればと考えております。
  (ちなみにLT枠は10/26 と狭き門でした!)
 
 
  また、これからプレゼン資料作りにとりかかりますが、
  ikiya さん、東さん、三浦さん、臼田さん、tomoki さん 他、
  ハイチマッピングに参加された方で、
  この話は是非入れて欲しいなど、情報いただけると幸いです。
 
 
  とりいそぎご報告まで!!
 
 
 
  2010/3/25 古橋大地 :
  古橋です。
 
 
  OSMの認知度向上と、
  Haitiでの成果報告をかねて、ジオメディアサミットでの
  ライトニングトークに応募しました。(応募が多い場合は抽選、外れたら懇親会で!)
 
  ぜひ一緒に参加しませんか?
  (開催場所:東京大学駒場第二キャンパス)
 
 
  ジオメディアサミット参加申し込み
  http://atnd.org/events/3748
 
  ジオメディアサミットとは
  http://bit.ly/5EcHXD
 
 
 
  東です。
 
  4/2(金)夕方より、位置ゲー開発者、サービス提供者などが集まるイベントがあります。
  第5回ジオメディアサミット
  http://atnd.org/events/3748
 
  ライトニングトークにてOSMerが登場..するかもしれません。
  興味のある方がおられましたらいかがでしょうか。
 
  2010/03/22のTV東京 ワールドビジネスサテライトで、
 
  (http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/wbs/news/20100322_wb_n2.html)
 
  位置情報システムとゲームを組み合わせた話題が取り上げられて
  いました。Wikipediaによると、「位置ゲー」という分類になるのだ
  そうです。
 
  http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BD%8D%E7%BD%AE%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC
 
  ゲーム感覚と携帯を組み合わせ、新しいビジネスを作ったのは
  おもしろいなあと思いました。
  osmや他の地図作成プロジェクトも、こういう観点でやってみるのも
  ありなのかもしれないと思いました。
 
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Re: [OSM-ja] FW: [OSM-talk] www.openaddresses.org BETA launched

2010-03-30 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi list,

I tried to add an address to openaddresses.org, but the format doesn't
really fit with Japanese addresses. So I discussed this with Cedric Moulet
on their mailing list. They said they want to keep it simple. I'm not so
happy with their approach, because it only works well for street addresses.

Otherwise there is some available data that could be a good start for Japan:
http://nlftp.mlit.go.jp/isj/

Does anyone know if it is allowed to import the data? It could be also
imported to OSM instead and then used by openaddresses that way (they use
OSM address data as well).

Daniel


2010/3/31 Hiroshi Miura miur...@ovi.com

 三浦です。

 今度は、オープンアドレスいうのが、始まりました

 Hiroshi, Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
 -Original Message-
 From: Cédric MOULLET
 Sent:  30/03/2010 1:05:32 PM
 Subject:  [OSM-talk] www.openaddresses.org BETA launched

 Dear OSM community,

 After www.openaddresses.ch and www.openaddresses.at, www.openaddresses.orghas
 been launched to collect worldwide localized addresses. This initiative of
 several people, universities and companies of central Europe aims to
 provide
 a web portail for the management of free and open geolocated addresses.

 One goal of www.openaddresses.org is to collaborate nicely with
 www.openstreetmap.org by exchanging data and providing additional services
 (
 http://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/wiki/RESTService). However, since
 localized addresses are very specific, we consider that it is appropriate
 to
 have a dedicated platform only for addresses. From the original projects,
 the data collected base on Google map has simply be removed in order to
 avoid any license issues.

 Don't hesitate to add your own address, the address of your friends and of
 the friends of your friends ;-) If you'd like to be part of this effort,
 you
 can also provide address listing, orthophoto or whatever data that can be
 useful. We are also looking for persons willing to participate to the
 development, the translation, the system administration, the testing, the
 communication and so on ...

 You'll find more information in the following documents:

   - Frequently asked
 questionshttp://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/wiki/FAQ
   - User guide http://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/wiki/UserGuideEn
   - Wiki http://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/
   - Discussion group http://groups.google.com/group/OpenAddresses

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Re: [OSM-ja] 提案:花見マッピングパー ティ(HMP)

2010-03-22 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Miura-san and other Hanami Mappers,

Is there already any reference tag for hanami? I was just thinking about
this a few days ago.

What should be tagged? Any idea on how to tag best?

   - The cherry tree itself?
   - A road link with attribute?
   - An area?

Daniel



2010/3/18 Hiroshi Miura (momokuri) miur...@linux.com

 三浦です。

 暖かい季節になってきました。
 今月末くらいには、関東地方でも、開花が予想されています。

 マッピングパーティには好適な季節がやってきています。

 ぜひ企画していきたいと思います。
 今年以降ですが、有る程度計画的にやりたいと思っています。
 何月何日にどのあたりでやる、っていうのを年間計画を立てていきたい。
 それについては、別メールで提案したくおもいます。

 さて、

 ご提案ですが、お花見Mappingというテーマで、各地で取り組んではいかがで
 しょう?


 わたしの住んでいる、東京都北区王子でも、飛鳥山公園など、お花見の名所がい
 くつかあります。
 そういった名所を中心に、マッピングして、ついてにお花見で、人と人のネット
 ワーキングも広げてはいかがでしょうか。


 わたしは、東京都北区王子の飛鳥山公園、石神井川遊歩道、王子稲荷、隅田川な
 どをマッピングエリアとして、ミニ・花見・マッピングパーティを、最少催行2
 名で3/27に行いたいと思います。

 といっても、集合→トレース&アップロード→花見+団子といったかんじでやれた
 らどうか、とおもっています。


 集合:JR王子駅前
 http://osm.jp/showmap?lat=35.751149958099205lon=139.73903162572057zoom=17

 マッピング範囲:
 飛鳥山公園、中央公園など
 http://osm.jp/showmap?lat=35.75470238314554lon=139.73381741163334zoom=16
 このあたり

 押さえたいPOI : さくらめぐり に紹介されているところ
 http://www.city.kita.tokyo.jp/misc/kanko/sakura/index.htm

 再集合、パーティ: 飛鳥山公園

 えー、詳細はまったくこれからですが、皆様の地元でも、なかなかいい場所があ
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[OSM-ja] Coastline around 加太 (K ada)

2010-03-11 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi list,

I opened the area around 加太 (Kada), southern Wakayama Prefecture, in JOSM
and loaded the data together with オルソ化空中写真.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=34.28008lon=135.07269zoom=15layers=B000FTF

If you open it in JOSM there is the old and the new coastline.

Obviously the old coastline is very rough approach, but the new
coastline draws a circle around 加太 and doesn't match the aerial photo at
all. And because I have been there just a few weeks ago, I can also prove
that this is not correct ;-)

OK, no problem, I can fix that.
My question is, what should I fix? The old or the new coastline?

Probably I missed some emails about this, but how can I make the new
coastline be rendered, because it seems it is not rendered now. And what to
do with the old coastline then?

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Re: [OSM-ja] オルソ化空中写真のキャッ シュ

2010-03-09 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Also caching WMS with Tilecache is quite easy.

The problem is to then have cached tiles and not a seamless WMS server
anymore. Or am I wrong? Can Geowebcache be accessed like a WMS?

バックグラウンドでタイルキャッシュをどんどん作ってくれるサンプルスクリプト
 も提供されています。


Is it possible with JOSM or any extension for JOSM to load tiles as well?

Depending on the number of cached levels, it can require gigabytes disk
space. To have the original images would be nice ;-)

Daniel


2010/3/9 Yoichi Kayama yoichi.kay...@gmail.com

 かやまと申します

 WMSを読み込むタイルキャッシュでしたらGeoWebcache というやつがあります。

 http://geowebcache.org/trac

 Tomcatとかのアプリケーションサーバが立てられるとこで使えます。
 バックグラウンドでタイルキャッシュをどんどん作ってくれるサンプルスクリプト
 も提供されています。



 2010年3月9日21:28 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp:
  On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 07:19:15PM +0900, Hiroshi Miura wrote:
 
  あああ、やっとわかった。
 
  HTTPのプロキシーをたてて、それをキャッシュサーバとして動作させることで、
  皆さんには、URL指定をそちらにしてもらうことで、ファイルを保存しようと
  いうことですね。
 
  少なくともsquidではうまくいきませんでした。
  設定が悪いのかもしれませんが。storeするのですが、次にアクセスしても、
  キャッシュミスになってしまいます。cgiだからキャッシュを無視するのかな。
 
  WMSのURLをベースにもっと直接的なため込み方があるかとおもいました...
 
  データをwgetかなんかで一括してダウンロードして、WMSのローカル
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Re: [OSM-ja] オルソ化空中写真のキャッ シュ

2010-03-09 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
OK, to answer myself: Geowebcache can recombine tiles to serve clients that
only accept WMS.

If I find some time tomorrow to setup a server with Geowebcache, I will give
it a try.
But before doing this I want to make sure if this is allowed or not?

Does anyone know if caching of the WMS is allowed?
Would it be allowed to also serve the cached content then to public?

Best regards,
Daniel

PS: Sorry for always writing to the list in English. Answers in Japanese are
very welcome!



2010/3/9 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 Also caching WMS with Tilecache is quite easy.

 The problem is to then have cached tiles and not a seamless WMS server
 anymore. Or am I wrong? Can Geowebcache be accessed like a WMS?

 バックグラウンドでタイルキャッシュをどんどん作ってくれるサンプルスクリプト
 も提供されています。


 Is it possible with JOSM or any extension for JOSM to load tiles as well?

 Depending on the number of cached levels, it can require gigabytes disk
 space. To have the original images would be nice ;-)

 Daniel


 2010/3/9 Yoichi Kayama yoichi.kay...@gmail.com

  かやまと申します

 WMSを読み込むタイルキャッシュでしたらGeoWebcache というやつがあります。

 http://geowebcache.org/trac

 Tomcatとかのアプリケーションサーバが立てられるとこで使えます。
 バックグラウンドでタイルキャッシュをどんどん作ってくれるサンプルスクリプト
 も提供されています。



 2010年3月9日21:28 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp:
  On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 07:19:15PM +0900, Hiroshi Miura wrote:
 
  あああ、やっとわかった。
 
  HTTPのプロキシーをたてて、それをキャッシュサーバとして動作させることで、
  皆さんには、URL指定をそちらにしてもらうことで、ファイルを保存しようと
  いうことですね。
 
  少なくともsquidではうまくいきませんでした。
  設定が悪いのかもしれませんが。storeするのですが、次にアクセスしても、
  キャッシュミスになってしまいます。cgiだからキャッシュを無視するのかな。
 
  WMSのURLをベースにもっと直接的なため込み方があるかとおもいました...
 
  データをwgetかなんかで一括してダウンロードして、WMSのローカル
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Re: [OSM-ja] 【OSC神戸】OSM 関西のパンフレットを作成しまし た。

2010-03-07 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Toshihisa-san,

If there is anything I can help with, let me know. I'm also planning to be
there on 13th.
I'm probably not good in helping with writing Japanese though, but if there
is something easy that needs to be done ;-)

Daniel


2010/3/7 TANAKA Toshihisa tosih...@netfort.gr.jp

 としです。

 主に清野さん、OSM 関西 Mapper (?!) さん向けです。
 13日の OSC 神戸にむけた、OSM 関西のパンフレットを作成しました。
 遅くなってすみません。

 * PDF
 http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~tosihisa/osm_kansai/osm_kinki_20100313.pdfhttp://www.netfort.gr.jp/%7Etosihisa/osm_kansai/osm_kinki_20100313.pdf

 * OpenOffice (Draw)
 http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~tosihisa/osm_kansai/osm_kinki_20100313.odghttp://www.netfort.gr.jp/%7Etosihisa/osm_kansai/osm_kinki_20100313.odg

 OpenStreetMap のパンフレットは、ikiya さん作のパンフレットがやっぱり秀作です。
 http://openstreetmap.blogspot.com/2009/10/osm_27.html

 で、ikiya さん作のパンフレットを使わせて頂く形で、関西での OSM の近況を
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 何分絵心がないもので、出来としては全然よろしく無いのですが、見て頂いて、
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Re: [OSM-ja] 【緊急企画】オルソよ今夜 もありがとう 〜 さ よならオルソ化空中写真 大謝恩祭り 開催!

2010-03-06 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hi,

Trying to access the WMS with JOSM gives me red tiles with Exception
occured.
Does this happen only to me or is this a common problem?

I tried:

   - The available WMS source of the WMS plugin (called MLIT Japan (ORTHO))

   
http://orthophoto.mlit.go.jp:/wms/service/wmsRasterTileMap?VERSION=1.3.0REQUEST=GetMapLAYERS=ORTHOSTYLES=DefaultCRS=EPSG:4612BBOX={s},{w},{n},{e}WIDTH={width}HEIGHT={height}FORMAT=image/pngBGCOLOR=OxFF
   - Access through localhost as described here:
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mage_Whopper/ortho_with_josm

Both without success.
Anyone else with the same problem?

Daniel


2010/3/6 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp

 ikiyaです。

 僭越ながらTomさんの企画を紹介します。
 (Tomさん勝手ながら告知お許しください。)

 【緊急企画】オルソよ今夜もありがとう ~ さよならオルソ化空中写真大謝恩祭り 開催!

 http://malaika.air-nifty.com/xoops/2010/03/post-a7fa.html?cid=43232848#comment-43232848

 OSMトレースのソースとして大変お世話になりました現在のオルソ化空中写真
 ダウンロードシステム(国土交通省国土計画局)が今月末で終了します。
 http://orthophoto.mlit.go.jp/

 復活の可能性もありますが、3月末でのWMS配信停止は確実のようです。
 そこでオルソ化空中写真に感謝の気持ちをこめて、オルソサーバーが
 止まるまでこの3月、オルソトレース強化期間としてオルソ化空中写真を
 使い倒ししてはみませんか。

 現状、Tagwatchでsource:ja=国土画像情報(オルソ化空中写真)国土交通省
 のタグ使用数を見ると9,056です。10,000超え目標にいかがですか。
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Re: [OSM-ja] 【緊急企画】オルソよ今夜 もありがとう 〜 さ よならオルソ化空中写真 大謝恩祭り 開催!

2010-03-06 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Well, problem seems to be EPSG:4612 as the only accepted projection, which I
can't chose in my version of JOSM (version 1788, Ubuntu).
I found some talk about this, but no solution yet. Is there any?

Daniel


2010/3/6 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 Hi,

 Trying to access the WMS with JOSM gives me red tiles with Exception
 occured.
 Does this happen only to me or is this a common problem?

 I tried:

- The available WMS source of the WMS plugin (called MLIT Japan
(ORTHO))


 http://orthophoto.mlit.go.jp:/wms/service/wmsRasterTileMap?VERSION=1.3.0REQUEST=GetMapLAYERS=ORTHOSTYLES=DefaultCRS=EPSG:4612BBOX={s},{w},{n},{e}WIDTH={width}HEIGHT={height}FORMAT=image/pngBGCOLOR=OxFFhttp://orthophoto.mlit.go.jp:/wms/service/wmsRasterTileMap?VERSION=1.3.0REQUEST=GetMapLAYERS=ORTHOSTYLES=DefaultCRS=EPSG:4612BBOX=%7Bs%7D,%7Bw%7D,%7Bn%7D,%7Be%7DWIDTH=%7Bwidth%7DHEIGHT=%7Bheight%7DFORMAT=image/pngBGCOLOR=OxFF
- Access through localhost as described here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mage_Whopper/ortho_with_josm

 Both without success.
 Anyone else with the same problem?

 Daniel


 2010/3/6 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp

 ikiyaです。

 僭越ながらTomさんの企画を紹介します。
 (Tomさん勝手ながら告知お許しください。)

 【緊急企画】オルソよ今夜もありがとう ~ さよならオルソ化空中写真大謝恩祭り 開催!

 http://malaika.air-nifty.com/xoops/2010/03/post-a7fa.html?cid=43232848#comment-43232848

 OSMトレースのソースとして大変お世話になりました現在のオルソ化空中写真
 ダウンロードシステム(国土交通省国土計画局)が今月末で終了します。
 http://orthophoto.mlit.go.jp/

 復活の可能性もありますが、3月末でのWMS配信停止は確実のようです。
 そこでオルソ化空中写真に感謝の気持ちをこめて、オルソサーバーが
 止まるまでこの3月、オルソトレース強化期間としてオルソ化空中写真を
 使い倒ししてはみませんか。

 現状、Tagwatchでsource:ja=国土画像情報(オルソ化空中写真)国土交通省
 のタグ使用数を見ると9,056です。10,000超え目標にいかがですか。
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2010-03-06 Per discussione Daniel Kastl

 Or you can use it only to set up your JOSM
 with proxy on Toshi's server.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Tosihisa/ortho_php_server

 here's the way.
 preferences - WMS Plugin - add
 name: MLIT ORTHO
 url:
 http://www.netfort.gr.jp/ortho.php?VERSION=1.3.0REQUEST=GetMapLAYERS=ORTHOSTYLES=CRS=EPSG:4612FORMAT=image/pngBGCOLOR=OxFF;



Thank you very much!
It works now. Maybe there was also a problem with old settings in .josm
directory (Ubuntu), which kept all the old settings even after doenloading a
newer version. I just deleted it and then it was OK.

http://www.netfort.gr.jp/ortho.phphttp://www.netfort.gr.jp/ortho.php?VERSION=1.3.0REQUEST=GetMapLAYERS=ORTHOSTYLES=CRS=EPSG:4612FORMAT=image/pngBGCOLOR=OxFF;didn't
work for me, but running the php script on localhost was OK.

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Re: [OSM-ja] チリ地震

2010-02-28 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Watanabe-san,

Thank you for your comment!
Yes, I knew the orthophotos source already. It's interesting to see how many
things changed just in ten years, especially in the urban areas.

I think JAXA would make a lot of friends in the OSM community to allow
current aerial photos to be used for tracing. It would be also big news for
them ;-)

Daniel



2010/3/1 Shun N. Watanabe sh...@ics.uci.edu

 Hi, Daniel,

  That said, I'm really happy with getting the opportunity to use aerial
  photos, but it would be nice to have the maps ready before the desaster
 and
  not after.

 Thank you for worrying about us.
 Do you know that we can use orthophotographs from one of government
 offices.

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasource#Orthophoto_.28MLIT_Japan.29
 The photos are old about 10 years ago, but they are very useful for
 mapping before disasters.
 JAXA's satellite photographs are always permitted for international
 contribution.
 Without disaster, JAXA may not permit to use the satellite photos.

  Shun N. Watanabe

 2010/2/28 Daniel Kastl daniel.ka...@georepublic.de:
  Hi OSM Japan Community!
  ... and JAXA representatives!
 
  Do we have to wait for a huge earthquake in Japan to get the permission
 to
  trace aerial photos here as well? ;-)
 
  That said, I'm really happy with getting the opportunity to use aerial
  photos, but it would be nice to have the maps ready before the desaster
 and
  not after.
 
  Anyone agrees?
 
  Daniel
 
 
  2010/2/28 S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp
 
  東です。
 
   本日(UST?)中にはGeoEye と Digital Globleの画像が提供される見通しです。
  
  
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake/Imagery_and_data_sources#Existing_Data_Sets
 
  NIEDよりJAXA衛星画像が提供されました。一番乗りですね。
 
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake/Imagery_and_data_sources#JAXA.2FALOS_satellite_Imagery
 
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Re: [OSM-ja] 11/7 pgRouting OSM ハ ンズオンにつきまして

2009-10-17 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
Hayashi-san,

Thank you for your email!
Luckily I checked this mail account (ork...@gmx.de) before leaving to
Sydney, which I usually only do from work ;-)


 11/7のハンズオンにつきまして、内容調整のお話です。

 1)11/6にマッピングパーティをしたデータを、11/7のハンズオンでエントリする予定でよろしいですか。


I forgot to answer to the OSM mailing list regarding this. Very busy times
recently.
I'm not sure Friday morning or Saturday is the better day for mapping. For
me both days are OK though.

I like the idea to combine routing workshop with mapping, because it shows
how important it is to care about network topology.



  2)11/7、清野さんはDanielさんと一緒にハンズオンに出られますか?


If we can find enough participants ...
I'm planning to use FOSS4G Live DVD/USB for this, that has been made for the
Sydney FOSS4G conference. pgRouting is installed there, too, but with Sydney
OSM data.



 3)pgRoutingとOSMデータのエントリの講義で時間はどのくらいで十分ですか?


I think time is a problem. It depends very much on how experienced workshop
participants are. If we have to struggle first with getting the software up
and running it will be tough. If almost everyone is an OSM mapper already it
might be easier.

How much time would be possible?

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Re: [OSM-ja] [OSGeoJapan-discuss] FOSS4G200 9 Osaka ウェブサイト登場

2009-09-16 Per discussione Daniel Kastl
haya...@ogi schrieb:
 Hi Daniel,

 It's very nice idea.
 But, I don't know KANSAI OSM member.
 I think that Seino and Tanaka can organize mapping-party.
   
Hayashi-san,

I would like to help, because I might take the chance to visit my wife's
family in Osaka anyway (as I did the previous years, too).

Daniel




 Daniel Kastl さんは書きました:
   
 Hayashi-san,

 I also post this to the OSM Japan list, because it's nice to see the OSM
 link on the announcement. But the map around ATC still needs a lot of work.

 Who would be interested to join organizing an
 Early-Morning-Mapping-Party for ATC and surroundings before the
 conference starts? We could then add an OSM workshop as well.

 Daniel



 haya...@ogi schrieb:
 
 みなさま

 林@OSGeo.JPです。

 本日、OSGeo.JPにFOSS4G 2009 Oska のサイトをパブリッシュ
 しました。

 http://www.osgeo.jp/foss4g2009-in-osaka/

 関西圏の方、東京で参加できなかった方、是非ご参加ください!

 ところで、上記サイトの開催場所に、FOSS4G2009 Tokyoと同じく、
 OSMの地図リンクを張ってます。

 (lat,lon: 34.6380,135.411)のところですね。

 しかし、なんということでしょう。
 まったくの更地ですぅ。
 幾らATC/WTCが再建中とはいえ・・・

 KOF2009開催までに、何とかしてやろうっていう、OSM有志
 の皆さま、ぜひぜひ、ここに地図を投入ねがいます。

   
 

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