Re: [OSM-talk-be] tile.osm.be

[Jonathan Beliën]

> We are thinking about an ansible script which will start a server in the
> cloud, launch the required tasks, and then stop it.
> 
> Did you think about this ? Do you want to collaborate on such project ?

That was my initial plan but never had time to deep dive into it !
I started some research about such a thing but didn't find how to make it 
happen with OVH Public Cloud.

> If you need it / want it, we can also discuss about that.

Any help to make the OSMBE tileserver work more efficiently is more than 
welcome.
Maybe we could partner up to make such a thing happen.
If you have any idea to make it work more efficiently or improve/simplify the 
update process we can meet to talk about it :)

Jonathan Beliën

Mer 11 mars 2020, à 09:53, Julien Fastré a écrit :
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> Le 10/03/20 à 20:51, Jonathan Beliën a écrit :
> > 
> > That being said, I'm also investigating some other solutions for the
> > OSMBE tileserver to simplify the update but didn't find any suitable
> > solution so far (adding vector tiles is also part of my research).
> 
> At Champs-Libres, we are facing a similar issue: pre-renders tiles for
> an area like Belgium from big cloud servers paid on an hourly basis.
> 
> We are thinking about an ansible script which will start a server in the
> cloud, launch the required tasks, and then stop it.
> 
> Did you think about this ? Do you want to collaborate on such project ?
> 
> > The update is not live because we (GEO-6) decided not to invest such a 
> > "big" amount of money in a server that could handle a live (or at least 
> > regular) automated update (and the current tilserver is still one of the 
> > biggest - meaning more expensive - server we manage and pay for).
> 
> If needed, we can also consider to give some help or money to host the
> service.
> 
> > That being said, I'm also investigating some other solutions for the OSMBE 
> > tileserver to simplify the update but didn't find any suitable solution so 
> > far (adding vector tiles is also part of my research).
> 
> If you need it / want it, we can also discuss about that.
> 
> Julien
>

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] tile.osm.be

[Jonathan Beliën]

The database update and the rendering is indeed scripted.
The documentation is available here : 
https://github.com/jbelien/openstreetmap-carto-be/wiki

I usually run it on a Public Cloud instance from OVH 
(https://www.ovhcloud.com/fr/public-cloud/).
Specifications:
- Server with at least 30Go RAM
- Server with at least 8 (v)CPU
- Server with at least 200Go

Jonathan Beliën
OpenStreetMap Belgium

Mar 10 mars 2020, à 21:28, Marc M. a écrit :
> Le 10.03.20 à 20:51, Jonathan Beliën a écrit :
> > I need to start a powerful server to run the database update 
> > and then the tiles update
> 
> this part is scripted ? a cloud server ?
> what's the hd size, type (hdd<>sdd) and number of cpu cores  needed
> to update all tiles in one day ?
> 
> Regards,
> Marc
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] tile.osm.be

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hello Maarten,

Indeed, I'm the one maintaining https://tile.openstreetmap.be/
And indeed, it hasn't been updated since a few months now.

I've put that tileserver online for the use of the company I work for (SPRL 
GEO-6 BVBA) and I convinced my boss to make it publicly available and make it 
the official OSMBE tileserver (thus the copyright referencing GEO-6).

The update process is indeed not fully automated : I need to start a powerful 
server to run the database update and then the tiles update (in 3 versions : 
`name` + `name:fr` + `name:nl`) and the whole process takes a whole day to 
complete.
The update is not live because we (GEO-6) decided not to invest such a "big" 
amount of money in a server that could handle a live (or at least regular) 
automated update (and the current tilserver is still one of the biggest - 
meaning more expensive - server we manage and pay for).
Unfortunately, those last few months have been quite busy and I didn't have (or 
at least didn't take) the time to run the update.

So, yes, the service *will stay online* and we are not planning to discontinue 
it !
The update is a "best-effort" update and I'll try to update it as regularly as 
possible (but without any guarantee).

That being said, I'm also investigating some other solutions for the OSMBE 
tileserver to simplify the update but didn't find any suitable solution so far 
(adding vector tiles is also part of my research).

Any suggestion or proposal of help is more than welcome !

Have a nice evening.

Jonathan Beliën
OpenStreetMap Belgium


Mar 10 mars 2020, à 11:35, Tim Couwelier a écrit :
> As I understood from Jonathan, the process isn't fully automated yet. Was 
> supposedly to get updated on a near-weekly basis, but it must've slipped from 
> attention.
> I'd guess that moving on towards a full automation of the process would go a 
> long way?
> 
> Op di 10 mrt. 2020 om 11:05 schreef rodeo .be :
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I see this tile server has not been updated the last months. Is the future 
>> of that tile service unsure?
>> 
>> Btw, we asked several organiations to use those tiles in the past (see here 
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Websites>): "*Met 
>> OpenStreetMap Belgium hebben we in samenwerking met een sponsor een 
>> tile-server optgezet die wel expliciet bedoeld is om te gebruiken in uw 
>> situatie.*" 
>> 
>> I think it would be worth it to keep that service! How can we help?
>> 
>> KR
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data

[Jonathan Beliën]

Yes, that's the big question mark for the event !
We'll hope to attract people with such knowledge and/or hope to find the 
information online somehow !

That's one of the reason we decided not to edit OpenStreetMap directly during 
the event !

Jonathan Beliën


Mar 11 févr 2020, à 12:18, Jo a écrit :
> I think the hardest part is figuring out what the name stands for if it is a 
> former maire of the city or commune. Especially if we only have an initial 
> for the first name. Sometimes it is possible to find this information on the 
> internet, often it isn't.
> 
> Do we have a way to look into the city's archives?
> 
> Jo
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Jonathan Beliën  wrote:
>> __
>>> Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia 
>>> (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will 
>>> probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put 
>>> a Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a 
>>> Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the 
>>> Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel 
>>> they should be educated to do so J )
>> 
>> Yes, I thought about adding the `wikipedia` tag if there is a Wikipedia page 
>> but no wikidata "page" but we could indeed add the `wikipedia` tag even if 
>> we have the `wikidata` tag !
>> 
>>> I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street will 
>>> be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really focus on 
>>> the people behind the street names and only fill in the 
>>> name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in 
>>> Wikidata.
>> 
>> Indeed, automagically but (very) carefully !
>> Exact process is not defined yet, I'll consult all of you to find the best 
>> way to do that properly !
>> Addition of the tags in OSM will be done no matter what AFTER the event but 
>> the participant will have access to that information to help them in their 
>> research of course.
>> 
>>> I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to 
>>> indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does 
>>> the person have (m/f/don’t know)
>> 
>> You suppose correctly !
>> We'll get all those information during the event !
>> But the final process will get the gender from the wikidata "page" (if there 
>> is a wikidata "page" for every person that have a street with their name).
>> 
>> Thanks for the feedback !
>> 
>> Jonathan Beliën
>> 
>> 
>> Mar 11 févr 2020, à 10:56, Santens Seppe a écrit :
>>> Hi Jonathan,

>>> 

>>> Workflow sounds good!

>>> If I may, a few remarks:

>>> · Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia 
>>> (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will 
>>> probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put 
>>> a Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a 
>>> Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the 
>>> Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel 
>>> they should be educated to do so J )

>>> · I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street 
>>> will be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really 
>>> focus on the people behind the street names and only fill in the 
>>> name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in 
>>> Wikidata.

>>> · I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to 
>>> indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does 
>>> the person have (m/f/don’t know)

>>> 

>>> Cheers,

>>> 

>>> Seppe

>>> 

>>> 

>>> *Van:* Jonathan Beliën [mailto:l...@jbelien.be] 
>>> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 11 februari 2020 10:16
>>> *Aan:* talk-be@openstreetmap.org
>>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open 
>>> Data

>>> 

>>> Hello everyone,

>>> 

>>> I just find out about this discussion and realize we are currently doing 
>>> the work twice !

>>> 

>>> The initial (and main) goal of the project is indeed to link streets in 
>>> Brussels from OpenStreetMap with the wikidata "page" 

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data

[Jonathan Beliën]

> Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia (to 
> save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will probably 
> already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put a Wikidata 
> tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a Wikipedia tag as 
> well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the Wikidata item (I now not 
> all data consumers will work like that, but I feel they should be educated to 
> do so J )

Yes, I thought about adding the `wikipedia` tag if there is a Wikipedia page 
but no wikidata "page" but we could indeed add the `wikipedia` tag even if we 
have the `wikidata` tag !

> I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street will be 
> done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really focus on the 
> people behind the street names and only fill in the name:etymology:wikidata 
> tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in Wikidata.

Indeed, automagically but (very) carefully !
Exact process is not defined yet, I'll consult all of you to find the best way 
to do that properly !
Addition of the tags in OSM will be done no matter what AFTER the event but the 
participant will have access to that information to help them in their research 
of course.

> I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to 
> indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does 
> the person have (m/f/don’t know)

You suppose correctly !
We'll get all those information during the event !
But the final process will get the gender from the wikidata "page" (if there is 
a wikidata "page" for every person that have a street with their name).

Thanks for the feedback !

Jonathan Beliën


Mar 11 févr 2020, à 10:56, Santens Seppe a écrit :
> Hi Jonathan,

> 

> Workflow sounds good!

> If I may, a few remarks:

> · Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia 
> (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will 
> probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put a 
> Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a 
> Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the 
> Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel 
> they should be educated to do so J )

> · I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street will 
> be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really focus on 
> the people behind the street names and only fill in the 
> name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in 
> Wikidata.

> · I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to 
> indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does 
> the person have (m/f/don’t know)

> 

> Cheers,

> 

> Seppe

> 

> 

> *Van:* Jonathan Beliën [mailto:l...@jbelien.be] 
> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 11 februari 2020 10:16
> *Aan:* talk-be@openstreetmap.org
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open 
> Data

> 

> Hello everyone,

> 

> I just find out about this discussion and realize we are currently doing the 
> work twice !

> 

> The initial (and main) goal of the project is indeed to link streets in 
> Brussels from OpenStreetMap with the wikidata "page" of the person present in 
> the streetname !

> 


> BUT we got in contact with Romain (Wikimedia Belgium) and he told us that he 
> is working on creating a wikidata "page" for all the streets in Brussels and 
> that his works is almost complete !
>  So we added that part in our Equal Street Names project !

> 

> For every street in Brussels, we'll add the `wikidata` tag and the 
> `name:etymology:wikidata` !

> 

> My workflow is the following :

>  * Make the list of streets in Brussels ; 
>* Since almost all the streets have an `associatedStreet` relation in 
> Brussels, I'll start with that and add the streets missing ;
>* Take the already existing `wikidata` and `name:etymology:wikidata` tags 
> that already exist (on both relations and ways) ;
>* Romain will provide us the `wikidata` tag for all the streets ;
>  * Next Monday (17/02), we (OSMBE + OKBE + WikimediaBE) organize and event to 
> look for all the missing wikidata/wikipedia page related to the streets in 
> Brussels ; 
>* Workload will be splitted by municipality ;
>* NOTHING will be added to OSM or Wikipedia/Wikidata during the event ;
>  * Once we have the `wikidata` and/org `name:etymology:wikidata` tags for 
> each street in Brussels, we'll add those 2 tags to OSM ; 
>* Exact procedure is not defined yet 

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hello everyone,

I just find out about this discussion and realize we are currently doing the 
work twice !

The initial (and main) goal of the project is indeed to link streets in 
Brussels from OpenStreetMap with the wikidata "page" of the person present in 
the streetname !

BUT we got in contact with Romain (Wikimedia Belgium) and he told us that he is 
working on creating a wikidata "page" for all the streets in Brussels and that 
his works is almost complete !
So we added that part in our Equal Street Names project !

For every street in Brussels, we'll add the `wikidata` tag and the 
`name:etymology:wikidata` !

My workflow is the following :
 * Make the list of streets in Brussels ;
   * Since almost all the streets have an `associatedStreet` relation in 
Brussels, I'll start with that and add the streets missing ;
   * Take the already existing `wikidata` and `name:etymology:wikidata` tags 
that already exist (on both relations and ways) ;
   * Romain will provide us the `wikidata` tag for all the streets ;
 * Next Monday (17/02), we (OSMBE + OKBE + WikimediaBE) organize and event to 
look for all the missing wikidata/wikipedia page related to the streets in 
Brussels ;
   * Workload will be splitted by municipality ;
   * NOTHING will be added to OSM or Wikipedia/Wikidata during the event ;
 * Once we have the `wikidata` and/org `name:etymology:wikidata` tags for each 
street in Brussels, we'll add those 2 tags to OSM ;
   * Exact procedure is not defined yet ;
   * Procedure will be documented and we'll ask feedback from the community 
BEFORE running it ;
Everything will be documented in a GitHub repository and on OSM wiki (as soon 
as I have a little time) !

Long story short, any feedback is more than welcome but let's not step upon 
each other and try to coordinate our effort !
I've been hired by Open Knowledge Belgium to work on that project.

Have a nice day !

Jonathan Beliën


Mar 11 févr 2020, à 09:06, Jo a écrit :
> OK, in that case, we'll have to go back to the original source, Urbis if we 
> want to add coordinates for the streets to Wikidata.
> 
> I always thought that if I'm the one who adds features to OSM myself, or if 
> I'm the one who places them at their correct spot, using aerial imagery that 
> the data was mine and I could contribute it to Wikidata, if that pleases me. 
> But maybe I shouldn't link back to OSM in that case in the reference url.
> 
> Seppe, Joost and Jonathan's project is about linking through 
> name:etymology:wikidata to persons, and add those persons to Wikidata if they 
> don't exist there yet. No addition of geodata involved in that case.
> 
> I know that Romaine has the wish for several years now, to add the streets of 
> Brussels themselves to Wikidata.
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
> Jo
> 
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:56 AM Marc Gemis  wrote:
>> > About the geocoding. If I look at the street in my JOSM, then create a 
>> > node somewhere in the center of it and then add the coordinates of that 
>> > node to Wikidata, did I violate any rights? If it does, we could use Urbis 
>> > data to source coordinates for the whereabouts of the street. I'm not 
>> > using any nodes of the street itself. I do try to link back to 
>> > openstreetmap (one of the ways or associatedStreet relation) in the 
>> > reference url field.
>>  >
>> 
>>  IMHO, that is a derivative database. You look at OSM data, apply some
>>  algorithm and create new data.
>>  AFAIK, the project that Seppe, Joost and Jonathan have will not add
>>  such data, but if you want to do it, you might contact the LWG to be
>>  sure it's OK. I doubt it is.
>> 
>>  regards
>> 
>>  m.
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[OSM-talk-be] MSF Mapathon 24 September - Looking for volunteers

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hello everyone,


MSF Belgium (Doctors without Borders) and Handicap International are hosting 
the next Missing Maps Mapathon on 24 September 2019.

The aim of the Missing Maps Project is to map the most crisis-prone parts of 
the developing world. With the help of the mappers they can directly improve 
the lives of some of the planet’s most vulnerable people.

Everyone is welcome to that mapathon (registration will be published soon) but 
we also need volunteers to help the new mappers (creating an account, using iD 
editor, ...)
No need to be an expert to help, you just need to have already mapped in 
OpenStreetMap.

If you're interested to come help us, please contact us at commun...@osm.be

Thanks a lot !
Have a nice weekend !


Jonathan Beliën
OpenStreetMap Belgium
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] ordering channels in the Community Index

[Jonathan Beliën]

I completely agree with your suggested order !

But I would merge Riot and IRC in one single "channel".
Those are the same channel, IRC is just a bridge to our Matrix/Riot channel.
As I suggested a while back (I even forgot I made that suggestion), I would use 
the extended description of the Matrix/Riot "channel" to state that people can 
connect to that channel through IRC (see 
https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index/pull/142#issuecomment-387755419)

Have a nice day!

Jonathan Beliën

Ven 30 août 2019, à 09:41, joost schouppe a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> The ID editor (not JOSM unfortunately) tries to link mappers to local 
> communities by showing them after each save. Until now, the list was ordered 
> by a global setting. Since a few days, they can be ordered based on inputs 
> from the local community. I'd like to do that, but I'd like to refer to some 
> public discussion about what we want to show.
> We also use the index for this page, so we would be changing the order there 
> as well: https://openstreetmap.be/en/contact.html
> 
> I would suggest this ordering:
> riot: because that's where most action is at
> meetup: because that allows you to easily stay up to date about OSM events in 
> in Belgium
> talk-be: historically our main channel, and still the best place to have more 
> complicated discussions
> forum: easy to use for some, and does have some activity
> irc: not really a separate channel, but a way to reach the riot channels. 
> Used by only a few people, but really easy to use for those who already use 
> irc
> twitter: more for outreach than for communicating, but still useful
> facebook: we're only there because we felt we had to :)
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> -- 
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!

[Jonathan Beliën]

Sorry, I know it’s confusing ; Open Knowledge Belgium didn’t promote the 
Community Day much (yet).

So, OpenBelgium will happen on March 4 ;
On the weekend before (March 2), there will be a « Community Day » in relation 
with OpenBelgium (organized by Open Knowledge Belgium).

Community is in its « broad sense ». The idea is to organize a free « event » 
linked to OpenBelgium (for which you need to buy a ticket).
We (OpenStreetMap Belgium) will attend to both « events » (OpenBelgium + 
Community Day) and hope to see you there :)

We’ll forward more information about the Community Day as soon as Open 
Knowledge Belgium releases it !

Jonathan Beliën
SPRL GEO-6<https://geo6.be/>

De : Marc Gemis 
Envoyé : mercredi 9 janvier 2019 21:05
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium 
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early 
Bird Tickets!

I'm a bit confused about

- Open Belgium (on March 4)
and
- We will also organize a community day during the weekend this year

which weekend is that ? Which community (OpenBelgium or OSM or both) ?

I was also thinking (for a OSM public) -- at least I would be interested to 
participate in such a workshop/presentation to learn more.

- Improve your armchair mapping with Mapillary and OpenStreetCam
  Explain the 2 project, techniques to use them in iD or JOSM, filter images on 
"topic", ...
- Wikidata (and Wikipedia and Commons) for mappers.
What is Wikidata, how can you edit, how can you put data in OSM, potential 
ideas for using a joined DB.


m.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 5:18 PM Jonathan Beliën 
mailto:j...@geo6.be>> wrote:
That’s a really awesome idea indeed !
Thanks Marc !

I’ll see if we can make that happen during OpenBelgium Community Day ! \o/

Jonathan Beliën
SPRL GEO-6<https://geo6.be/>

De : Santens Seppe mailto:seppe.sant...@stad.gent>>
Envoyé : mercredi 9 janvier 2019 09:27
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium 
mailto:talk-be@openstreetmap.org>>
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early 
Bird Tickets!

Cool idea, Marc!

Van: Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com<mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com>]
Verzonden: dinsdag 8 januari 2019 20:32
Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early 
Bird Tickets!

I cannot make it to Open Belgium, but I have been thinking about a "walking 
meetup" for some time now. So instead of sitting in a pub, doing a walk and 
talk about OSM and survey techniques and apply them.

Taking that idea, on a community day, it could be a workshop about surveying 
techniques, JOSM tips, micromapping, that kind of stuff. It would be an hand-on 
workshop, where people have to go outside for 15 minutes or so and collect 
data. Afterwards compare techniques, collected data and do a bit of mapping. 
Perhaps discuss a bit about usefulness, special maps, ...

m.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 1:46 PM Ben Abelshausen 
mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone!

In a few months we have Open Belgium again (yay!) and as usual we will have 
talks about OSM (Belgium).  We invite everyone to submit a talk, **anything** 
related to open-(something) is fine, that means openstreetmap too! ;-) We will 
also organize a community day during the weekend this year, more news about 
that later, so even if you can't make it on the 4th of march we urge you to 
submit talks/workshops anyway. We can move them to the community day later.

We will probably also have a booth with OSM Belgium and usually have a lot of 
fun so don't miss it! If you want to attend but find the entry tickets too 
expense get in touch with me, the community day will be free (to be announced 
later).

All details here:

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mailto:ast...@openknowledge.be>>
Date: Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:17 AM
Subject: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!
To: mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com>>

A must-attend conference to discuss the state of and current trends around Open 
Knowledge and Open Data!
Open Belgium 2019 - 4 March in Brussels
Open Knowledge and Open Data in Belgium


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!

[Jonathan Beliën]

That’s a really awesome idea indeed !
Thanks Marc !

I’ll see if we can make that happen during OpenBelgium Community Day ! \o/

Jonathan Beliën
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Bird Tickets!

Cool idea, Marc!

Van: Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 8 januari 2019 20:32
Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early 
Bird Tickets!

I cannot make it to Open Belgium, but I have been thinking about a "walking 
meetup" for some time now. So instead of sitting in a pub, doing a walk and 
talk about OSM and survey techniques and apply them.

Taking that idea, on a community day, it could be a workshop about surveying 
techniques, JOSM tips, micromapping, that kind of stuff. It would be an hand-on 
workshop, where people have to go outside for 15 minutes or so and collect 
data. Afterwards compare techniques, collected data and do a bit of mapping. 
Perhaps discuss a bit about usefulness, special maps, ...

m.

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Hi everyone!

In a few months we have Open Belgium again (yay!) and as usual we will have 
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We will probably also have a booth with OSM Belgium and usually have a lot of 
fun so don't miss it! If you want to attend but find the entry tickets too 
expense get in touch with me, the community day will be free (to be announced 
later).

All details here:

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bonjour a tous

[Jonathan Beliën]

Bonjour M. Bastin,

Comme indiqué dans les liens envoyés par Marc, les serveurs 
https://tiles.openstreetmap.org/ ne peuvent pas être utilisés dans vos 
applications :


Heavy use (e.g. distributing an app that uses tiles from 
openstreetmap.org) is *forbidden* without prior permission from the 
System Administrators 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/System_Administrators>.
C'est pourquoi OpenStreetMap Belgique a mis en ligne une copie de la 
Belgique qui peut elle être utilisée dans vos applications et offre une 
version en français et néerlandais du fond de carte.


Ce fond de carte est accessible ici  : https://tile.openstreetmap.be/
Attention, toutefois à respecter la politique d'utilisation des tuiles : 
https://github.com/jbelien/openstreetmap-carto-be/wiki/Politique-d'utilisation-des-tuiles


Si vous cherchez autre chose qu'un fond de carte, n'hésitez pas à nous 
préciser vos besoins !


Bonne journée.

Jonathan Beliën
OpenStreetMap Belgique


Le 04/04/2018 à 05:45, Marc Gemis a écrit :

Je ne comprend pas quel lien vous utilisez:
https://www.openstreetmap.org, https://tiles.openstreetmap.org,
https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org ?

Il y a 2 document qui donne des limites pour les serveurs d'
OpenStreetMap Foundation:
https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/ et
https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/nominatim/

m.

2018-04-03 12:55 GMT+02:00 Philippe Bastin <phili...@skyandme.net>:

Dans le cadre d'une application je voudrais joindre un lien vers les carte
OSM

Y a-t-il une limite ou les serveurs peuvent gérer n'importe quel flux

Je me pose la question vu que sur OpenCage par exemple ils mettent des
limite de récupération sur les données


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[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSCAL 2018/Call for proposals

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hello everyone,

Some of you probably know it, I'm (also) a member of a hackerspace in 
Tirana, Albania.
Here is some information about our annual international Open Source Free 
Software Conference !


Wish you a pleasant evening !

Jonathan



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Sujet : [OSM-talk] OSCAL 2018/Call for proposals
Date :  Mon, 19 Mar 2018 21:36:37 +0100
De :Anisa Kuci 
Pour :  t...@openstreetmap.org



Hello,


OSCAL  is the annual international Open 
Source Free Software Conference in Albania dedicated to empowering 
Software Freedom, Open Knowledge, Free Culture and Decentralization.


We would like to invite anyone who is interested to submit proposals.

CALL FOR PROPOSALS : 
deadline is extended to 1 April and we would love to have as much OSM 
presence as possible.


Let us know if you have any questions.


Happy mapping,
Anisa




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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Import DAE for Belgium

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hello Remo,

First of all, before adding anything in OpenStreetMap, you have to make 
sure those data are open.
Considering you had to ask to receive these data, I guess it's not 
licensed under an open-data license ! So you can unfortunately not use 
this dataset to improve OpenStreetMap (unless they specifically said you 
can of course).


I don't know any "easy import tool" and the community does not agree 
completely on how or when do imports...


But to compare your dataset with OpenStreetMap dataset, I started to 
build a comparison tool a few month ago ; unfortunately, I didn't had 
time recently to continue to work on it but the basics should work. You 
can find it here : https://github.com/jbelien/osm-compare

The tool compares a GeoJSON file to a Overpass query.

Feel free to contact us if you have any additional question about this 
tool or the open-data issue !


I wish you a pleasant day.

Jonathan Beliën
GEO-6

Le 09-03-18 à 00:16, Remo Moro a écrit :

Dear Openstreetmap community,

time ago I discovered a friend who implementated a 
simplebot<https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@defibrillatoribot>for 
telegram to find easily some AED (/automated external 
defibrillator)//already present into OSM database. /

/Then I realized that in Belgium that map is quite empty./
/So I asked the Health web site ( 
https://www.health.belgium.be/fr/e-services/defibrillateur-externe-automatique-dea 
<https://www.health.belgium.be/fr/e-services/defibrillateur-externe-automatique-dea>) 
to receive the information about the AED in Belgium/

/
/
I cleaned the file with more than 8k rows and I have geolocated more 
than 7k that you can find here already 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/daeaed-in-belgium_147514#8/50.555/4.466 
<https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/daeaed-in-belgium_147514#8/50.555/4.466>


My question: is it possibile to import that database into 
openstreetmap and how is possible to check if the AED alredy exists.


Thank you for your help,
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Overpass turbo exporteren as png

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hello,

I think https://overpass-turbo.eu/master/ uses `master` branch from the 
Overpass Turbo repository (https://github.com/tyrasd/overpass-turbo) and 
that http://overpass-turbo.eu/ uses the last released version.


Which means that https://overpass-turbo.eu/master/ has all the latest 
fixes and http://overpass-turbo.eu/ is the last released version : 
2017-05-07 (https://github.com/tyrasd/overpass-turbo/releases).


Jonathan Beliën
GEO-6

Le 31-01-18 à 20:55, Jakka a écrit :



@glenn on the https://overpass-turbo.eu/master/ it works
but not on the http://overpass-turbo.eu/ strange and what is the 
difference between those two ?






Op 31/01/2018 om 15:44 schreef Glenn Plas:

It works now.  Tested on chrome Version 62.0.3202.94 (Official Build)
(64-bit)

Glenn


On 27-01-18 11:23, Jakka wrote:

Hi,

Trying to export a query map in png do not work.


    rendering map data <is hanging here
    rendering map tiles
    prepare map


Is this a known issue ?


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Réunion OSM à Arlon - OSM Meeting in Arlon - 16 January 2018 at 19.30

[Jonathan Beliën]

Actually, I already added this event to Meetup ... but on the 23rd of
January as announced previously ! 

Will there be 2 events (on the 19th and on the 23rd) ?

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Le 15/01/2018 12:35, Pieter Vander Vennet a écrit :

> I added this to the meetup page: 
> https://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/246831516/ 
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Pieter Vander Vennet 
> 2018-01-15 11:52 GMT+01:00 Pierre Parmentier <pierrecparment...@gmail.com>:
> 
>> To the OSM Mappers of the PLuxembourg province and around,
>> 
>> We shall meet on Tuesday 24 October 2017 at 19.30 in Arlon.
>> Already 4 subscribed! WiFi available.
>> Meeting at the taverne Les Arcades, place Léopold 5.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Salut à tous les cartographes OSM de la province de Luxembourg et alentour,
>> 
>> Mardi 24 octobre 2017, à 19.30 h, réunion à Arlon.
>> Déjà 4 inscrits ! WiFi disponible.
>> Rendez-vous à la taverne Les Arcades, place Léopold 5.
>> 
>> Pierre P. /// foxandpotatoes
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Réunion OSM à Arlon - OSM Meeting in Arlon - 24 October 2017 at 19.30

[Jonathan Beliën]

Done !

Published on Meetup : 
https://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/244198136/

Published on OSMBE calendar : http://www.osm.be/calendar.html
Published on Maptime Belgium : 
http://maptime.io/belgium/event/2017/10/24/meeting-arlon/


I put the "default" description ! Pierre, if you want me to change it, 
just send me the description you want :)


And thank you very much Pierre for organizing this meetup !



Jonathan

Le 14-10-17 à 11:18, joost schouppe a écrit :

This is great!

Would you mind adding it to the Meetup calender? (or I can do it for you)

Op 13 okt. 2017 6:37 p.m. schreef "Pierre Parmentier" 
>:


To the OSM Mappers of the Luxembourg province and around,

We shall meet on Tuesday 24 October 2017 at 19.30 in Arlon.
Already 4 subscribed! WiFi available.
Meeting at the taverne Les Arcades, place Léopold 5.

--

Salut à tous les cartographes OSM de la province de Luxembourg et
alentour,

Mardi 24 octobre 2017, à 19.30 h, réunion à Arlon.
Déjà 4 inscrits ! WiFi disponible.
Rendez-vous à la taverne Les Arcades, place Léopold 5.

Pierre P. /// foxandpotatoes

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Réunion OSM à Arlon - OSM Meeting in Arlon - 24 October 2017 at 19.30

[Jonathan Beliën]

Good morning Pierre,

Do you want me to publish your meetup on our Meetup page : 
https://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/ ?


I'll also publish it in OpenStreetMap Belgium calendar : 
http://www.osm.be/calendar.html


Wish you a pleasant weekend !


Jonathan


Le 13-10-17 à 18:36, Pierre Parmentier a écrit :

To the OSM Mappers of the Luxembourg province and around,

We shall meet on Tuesday 24 October 2017 at 19.30 in Arlon.
Already 4 subscribed! WiFi available.
Meeting at the taverne Les Arcades, place Léopold 5.

--

Salut à tous les cartographes OSM de la province de Luxembourg et 
alentour,


Mardi 24 octobre 2017, à 19.30 h, réunion à Arlon.
Déjà 4 inscrits ! WiFi disponible.
Rendez-vous à la taverne Les Arcades, place Léopold 5.

Pierre P. /// foxandpotatoes


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] How we deal with this kind of note

[Jonathan Beliën]

I think it's indeed Château de Miremont !

It apparently was at some point a place we could rent to organize events ; no 
idea if it's still the case.
https://www.pagesdor.be/entreprise/Seneffe/L11523167/Ch%C3%A2teau+de+Miremont/

Jonathan Beliën
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Envoyé : mercredi 4 octobre 2017 18:55
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It probably is Château de Miremont when checking the map.

On 04-10-17 18:50, Glenn Plas wrote:
> I can also see on the opposing side of the road a touristic sign that 
> points you toward what I think reads "Chateau de miracle" even though 
> it's blurred.
> 
> That hardly looks private.
> 
> https://www.google.be/maps/@50.5623311,4.2435211,3a,21y,117.34h,75.78t
> /data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sY7eetCLpKRiHgvO06v-M0Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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> GLenn

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] How we deal with this kind of note

[Jonathan Beliën]

I would say to put that road (from the main road to the house) as 
`access=private` and reply to the note saying the road is now marked as private 
and even if it's displayed on the map, no one will use that road (including GPS 
using OpenStreetMap data).

Wish you a pleasant day !

Jonathan Beliën
GEO-6

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Hi,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1161734#map=17/50.56332/4.24592=N
highway=service

"Ce chemin est un chemin privé, il n'a pas a être sur la carte."
door anoniem


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] strange styling of waterway=drain + intermittent=yes

[Jonathan Beliën]

In my case, I do not see those ugly black drains anymwhere (including 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.73476/4.22194).



So probably a browser cache issue, I think.

 

Jonathan Beliën

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De : joost schouppe [mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com] 
Envoyé : vendredi 9 juin 2017 13:22
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Yep, same here:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.73476/4.22194

 

So maybe not solved on all tile servers yet.

 

2017-06-09 11:03 GMT+02:00 Steven Clays <steven.cl...@gmail.com 
<mailto:steven.cl...@gmail.com> >:

No results here.

 

2017-06-08 14:36 GMT+02:00 Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshau...@gmail.com 
<mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> >:

Steven,

 

Look here for example: 
https://www.getfilecloud.com/blog/2015/03/tech-tip-how-to-do-hard-refresh-in-browsers/




Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen

 

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Steven Clays <steven.cl...@gmail.com 
<mailto:steven.cl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

How do you perform a hard refresh?

 

2017-06-07 15:37 GMT+02:00 Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshau...@gmail.com 
<mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> >:

Works here, maybe because I'm not in Belgium...

 

 

On 7 Jun 2017 12:37, "joost schouppe" <joost.schou...@gmail.com 
<mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com> > wrote:

They are definitely already on this, but I saw something about this being a 
nastier bug than you would expect. Hard refresh doesn't seem to work anyways.

 

2017-06-07 12:10 GMT+02:00 Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshau...@gmail.com 
<mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> >:

I think they fixed it already, try hard refresing the map...




Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen

 

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Pieter Brusselman 
<pieter.brussel...@tragewegen.be <mailto:pieter.brussel...@tragewegen.be> > 
wrote:

wrong link: the map looks like this: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/51.1085/3.8704.  

Pieter Brusselman
Cartografie ~ Projectmedewerker

 <http://www.tragewegen.be> 

A Kasteellaan 349 A, 9000 Gent
T 09 / 331 59 27
W www.tragewegen.be <http://www.tragewegen.be> 

 <http://www.facebook.com/tragewegen> 

ter info: tot eind juni werk ik niet op donderdag en vrijdag

Op 7/06/2017 om 11:38 schreef Pieter Brusselman:

According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:intermittent?uselang=nl the 
waterway=drain + intermittent=yes should be styled as a dashed blue line.  But 
now they look like this: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:intermittent?uselang=nl

It is very confusing to look at such a map.  Does anyone knows what happend 
here?

Grtz,
Pieter

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] WMS in ID

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hello Philippe,


You can't add "raw" WMS query directly to iD Editor.
You need to create an URL containing every parameters needed (layers, 
zoom level, projection, ...) to make it work.


If you tell me which layer(s) of this service you need, I can give you 
the correct URL to enter in iD !


Jonathan


Le 31-03-17 à 10:49, Philippe Casteleyn a écrit :


Ik  probeer de OSM fietsparkings van Brussel met de officiële te 
vergelijken.


Ik plak

http://data-mobility.irisnet.be/geoserver/bm_bike/wms?

in ID in de custom background.

Maar er gebeurt niets.



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Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Belgium] OSM + OsGeo

[Jonathan Beliën]

As promised, I added the next OSGeo Dev Evening to the Maptime Belgium chapter 
: http://maptime.io/belgium/

 

Your events will now automaticaly appear in OpenStreetMap Belgium calendar 
(http://calendar.osm.akoo.ovh/).

Still in development though ^^ 

 

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

 

De : Belgium [mailto:belgium-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] De la part de Maelle 
Vercauteren
Envoyé : dimanche 26 mars 2017 23:49
À : Jonathan Beliën <l...@jbelien.be>
Cc : OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org>; belg...@lists.osgeo.org
Objet : Re: [Belgium] [OSM-talk-be] OSM + OsGeo

 

Thanks Joost for you email and Jonathan for your enthusiasm ! :-)

I support your two propositions and we will certainly speak about these during 
the AG (and/or the OSGeodevEvening). By the way if some of you are free, they 
are more than welcome: it will be this Wednesday March 29th at 17:30 (building 
D, room DC6.126,.Campus Solbosch, Université libre de Bruxelles Avenue Franklin 
D. Roosevelt 50 - 1050 Bruxelles).

Cheers and I am pleased to strengthen our collaboration, 

Maë//e 

 

2017-03-26 21:57 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Beliën <l...@jbelien.be 
<mailto:l...@jbelien.be> >:

Could not have said it better !

As I use OSGEO tools and OpenStreetMap database on a daily basis, I could not 
be more happy if the two of us join our forces !

Maë//e told us you use you wiki page for your events : 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Belgium#2017
If you agree, I'll add your OSGEOBE events to Maptime Belgium 
(http://maptime.io/belgium/) starting by next OSGEODevEvening !

And I could help with events about web cartography (OpenLayers, Leaflet, 
MapServer, ...).


Jonathan

Le 26-03-17 à 21:15, joost schouppe a écrit :

Hi, 

 

Even though we're natural partners, we don't do that much together. After the 
National Mapathon, Jonathan, Maelle and myself had a few beers and a long talk. 
It convinced me that we could do more.

 

I would like to propose two things:

 

- at OSM Belgium, we use Meetup [1] to organize all our events. But we publish 
all of them at our Maptime [2] page too. How about we share the Maptime page to 
announce both OSM and OsGeo events?

 

- Maptime is actually supposed to be about easy events where you actually learn 
to do some webmapping. For example, learning how to make a Leaflet map. We 
would like to organize a little event where you can learn how to build a simple 
map with Overpass-Turbo [3], Umap [4] or Mapcontrib [5]. All very userfriendly, 
but still quite powerful. I think it would be an excellent thing to do 
together, because we could recruit people that tend more towards 
data-collection for OpenStreetMap Belgium and those that are more interested in 
open source software for OsGeo.

 

Also, I think it would be very fun to do.

 

Because it is within the scope of the Maptime project, we could get Free Pizza 
(sponsored by Carto, former CartoDB). Who doesn't like free pizza?

 

Anyway, share your thoughts, and efforts :)

 

 

1: https://meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/

2: http://maptime.io/belgium/

3: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_turbo

4: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UMap

5: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapContrib

 

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM + OsGeo

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Could not have said it better !

As I use OSGEO tools and OpenStreetMap database on a daily basis, I 
could not be more happy if the two of us join our forces !


Maë//e told us you use you wiki page for your events : 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Belgium#2017
If you agree, I'll add your OSGEOBE events to Maptime Belgium 
(http://maptime.io/belgium/) starting by next OSGEODevEvening !


And I could help with events about web cartography (OpenLayers, Leaflet, 
MapServer, ...).



Jonathan

Le 26-03-17 à 21:15, joost schouppe a écrit :

Hi,

Even though we're natural partners, we don't do that much together. 
After the National Mapathon, Jonathan, Maelle and myself had a few 
beers and a long talk. It convinced me that we could do more.


I would like to propose two things:

- at OSM Belgium, we use Meetup [1] to organize all our events. But we 
publish all of them at our Maptime [2] page too. How about we share 
the Maptime page to announce both OSM and OsGeo events?


- Maptime is actually supposed to be about easy events where you 
actually learn to do some webmapping. For example, learning how to 
make a Leaflet map. We would like to organize a little event where you 
can learn how to build a simple map with Overpass-Turbo [3], Umap [4] 
or Mapcontrib [5]. All very userfriendly, but still quite powerful. I 
think it would be an excellent thing to do together, because we could 
recruit people that tend more towards data-collection for 
OpenStreetMap Belgium and those that are more interested in open 
source software for OsGeo.


Also, I think it would be very fun to do.

Because it is within the scope of the Maptime project, we could get 
Free Pizza (sponsored by Carto, former CartoDB). Who doesn't like free 
pizza?


Anyway, share your thoughts, and efforts :)


1: https://meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/
2: http://maptime.io/belgium/
3: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_turbo
4: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UMap
5: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapContrib

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] talk: "responding to vandalism"

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hi guys,

I like the idea to validate edits coming from certain sources (Maps.me, 
...).


But even though there is some vandalism (aaah those PokemonGo players) 
and do not think we should validate everything and everyone (and that's 
ok if we miss some of that vandalism).
An important part of OSM strength is that freedom and that anyone can 
contribute directly ! I think we need to keep that strength.


That said, I'm a PHP/PostgreSQL developer and I already own a server 
dedicated to OSMBE (Tasking Manager [1], brand new registration form 
[2], ...) and I would be happy to try that lituanian tool (and why not 
contribute to improve it).


Good afternoon !

[1] : http://tasks.osm.be/
[2] : https://members.osm.be/

Jonathan


Le 19-03-17 à 22:33, joost schouppe a écrit :
Usually, I feel like Karel does. It is not really urgent to work on 
this, as it is not so very common. Still, there is some work to do: 
lots of newbie mistakes, the very occasional random vandal, sometimes 
damaging maps.me  mistakes, misguided Pokémon Go 
players.


Most of that work is getting done anyway, but sometimes we do miss 
things. It would be nice to have it a bit more structured.  Maybe that 
might lighten the load for those that are doing it now. The most 
important thing: it might help us prepare if ever bigger problems arise.




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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where has Brussels UrbIS 2015 aerial imagery gone?

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And I also submitted PULL REQUEST to update iD Editor baselayers : 
https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/pulls/jbelien


Just have to wait that those pull requests are "accepted".


Jonathan


Le 04-03-17 à 18:32, Jonathan Beliën a écrit :
I fixed every URL's for UrbIS (aerial + basemap) and added 2016 aerial 
imagery for JOSM settings : 
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Belgium



Jonathan


Le 03-03-17 à 14:06, Jonathan Beliën a écrit :

You're welcome ! :)

And indeed Ortho2016 is available :

wms:http://geoservices-urbis.irisnet.be/geoserver/ows/?SERVICE=WMS=1.3.0=GetMap=image%2Fpng=true=Urbis%3AOrtho2016={width}={height}=EPSG%3A3857=={bbox} 



Excellent idea to update 
https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/tree/gh-pages/sources/europe/be
It will be really useful because the quality of CIRB orthophotos is 
better than the one from AGIV (for Brussels only of course ^^). So I 
would set "best=true" for the Brussels area.

If you need any hlep with this, feel free to ask :)
Thanks !

Jonathan Beliën
GEO-6

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Envoyé : vendredi 3 mars 2017 13:46
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Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where has Brussels UrbIS 2015 aerial 
imagery gone?


Thanks a lot for this.  Indeed, not only does this URL work but 2016 
aerial views are now available too.
I am also following Joost’s suggestion and am preparing a GeoJSON 
file to upload onto the list of Belgian imagery (set as "best=false" 
to avoid clashing with other layers).


Cheers.
Yves


On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:09:26 +0100
Jonathan Beliën <j...@geo6.be> wrote:


Hi Yves,

If I remember correctly, I think you use the old URL.

The new URL should be :

wms:http://geoservices-urbis.irisnet.be/geoserver/ows/?SERVICE=WMS=1.3.0=GetMap=image%2Fpng=true=Urbis%3AOrtho2015={width}={height}=EPSG%3A3857=={bbox} 



:)

Jonathan Beliën

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gone?


Hello,

The most recent set of aerial imagery for Brussels comes from 
low-altitude flights commissioned by the Region.
Very useful to map public space in Brussels and it integrates 
perfectly in JOSM.
The layer with images taken during Spring 2015 used to be available 
here: 
wms:http://www.gis.irisnet.be/arcgis/rest/services/basemap/ortho2015/MapServer/export?f=image=jpeg=False={proj}=3857=3857={bbox}={width},{height}


It’s been a few days where this data seems to have been removed from 
their server.

Apparently, only the 2004 and 2012 aerial views are still available.
http://www.gis.irisnet.be/arcgis/rest/services/basemap

Does anyone know of an alternative location to get this data?
I wrote to CIRB-CIBG, the Brussels institute in charge of this, but 
no reply so far.



Cheers.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where has Brussels UrbIS 2015 aerial imagery gone?

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I fixed every URL's for UrbIS (aerial + basemap) and added 2016 aerial 
imagery for JOSM settings : https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Belgium



Jonathan


Le 03-03-17 à 14:06, Jonathan Beliën a écrit :

You're welcome ! :)

And indeed Ortho2016 is available :

wms:http://geoservices-urbis.irisnet.be/geoserver/ows/?SERVICE=WMS=1.3.0=GetMap=image%2Fpng=true=Urbis%3AOrtho2016={width}={height}=EPSG%3A3857=={bbox}

Excellent idea to update 
https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/tree/gh-pages/sources/europe/be
It will be really useful because the quality of CIRB orthophotos is better than the one 
from AGIV (for Brussels only of course ^^). So I would set "best=true" for the 
Brussels area.
If you need any hlep with this, feel free to ask :)
Thanks !

Jonathan Beliën
GEO-6

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Envoyé : vendredi 3 mars 2017 13:46
À : talk-be@openstreetmap.org
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where has Brussels UrbIS 2015 aerial imagery gone?

Thanks a lot for this.  Indeed, not only does this URL work but 2016 aerial 
views are now available too.
I am also following Joost’s suggestion and am preparing a GeoJSON file to upload onto the 
list of Belgian imagery (set as "best=false" to avoid clashing with other 
layers).

Cheers.
Yves


On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:09:26 +0100
Jonathan Beliën <j...@geo6.be> wrote:


Hi Yves,

If I remember correctly, I think you use the old URL.

The new URL should be :

wms:http://geoservices-urbis.irisnet.be/geoserver/ows/?SERVICE=WMS=1.3.0=GetMap=image%2Fpng=true=Urbis%3AOrtho2015={width}={height}=EPSG%3A3857=={bbox}

:)

Jonathan Beliën

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Envoyé : mercredi 1 mars 2017 13:48
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Objet : [OSM-talk-be] Where has Brussels UrbIS 2015 aerial imagery gone?

Hello,

The most recent set of aerial imagery for Brussels comes from low-altitude 
flights commissioned by the Region.
Very useful to map public space in Brussels and it integrates perfectly in JOSM.
The layer with images taken during Spring 2015 used to be available here: 
wms:http://www.gis.irisnet.be/arcgis/rest/services/basemap/ortho2015/MapServer/export?f=image=jpeg=False={proj}=3857=3857={bbox}={width},{height}

It’s been a few days where this data seems to have been removed from their 
server.
Apparently, only the 2004 and 2012 aerial views are still available.
http://www.gis.irisnet.be/arcgis/rest/services/basemap

Does anyone know of an alternative location to get this data?
I wrote to CIRB-CIBG, the Brussels institute in charge of this, but no reply so 
far.


Cheers.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where has Brussels UrbIS 2015 aerial imagery gone?

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You're welcome ! :)

And indeed Ortho2016 is available :

wms:http://geoservices-urbis.irisnet.be/geoserver/ows/?SERVICE=WMS=1.3.0=GetMap=image%2Fpng=true=Urbis%3AOrtho2016={width}={height}=EPSG%3A3857=={bbox}

Excellent idea to update 
https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/tree/gh-pages/sources/europe/be
It will be really useful because the quality of CIRB orthophotos is better than 
the one from AGIV (for Brussels only of course ^^). So I would set "best=true" 
for the Brussels area.
If you need any hlep with this, feel free to ask :)
Thanks !

Jonathan Beliën
GEO-6

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Envoyé : vendredi 3 mars 2017 13:46
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Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where has Brussels UrbIS 2015 aerial imagery gone?

Thanks a lot for this.  Indeed, not only does this URL work but 2016 aerial 
views are now available too.
I am also following Joost’s suggestion and am preparing a GeoJSON file to 
upload onto the list of Belgian imagery (set as "best=false" to avoid clashing 
with other layers).

Cheers.
Yves


On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:09:26 +0100
Jonathan Beliën <j...@geo6.be> wrote:

> Hi Yves,
> 
> If I remember correctly, I think you use the old URL.
> 
> The new URL should be : 
> 
> wms:http://geoservices-urbis.irisnet.be/geoserver/ows/?SERVICE=WMS=1.3.0=GetMap=image%2Fpng=true=Urbis%3AOrtho2015={width}={height}=EPSG%3A3857=={bbox}
> 
> :)
> 
> Jonathan Beliën
> 
> -Message d'origine-
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> Envoyé : mercredi 1 mars 2017 13:48
> À : talk-be@openstreetmap.org
> Objet : [OSM-talk-be] Where has Brussels UrbIS 2015 aerial imagery gone?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The most recent set of aerial imagery for Brussels comes from low-altitude 
> flights commissioned by the Region.
> Very useful to map public space in Brussels and it integrates perfectly in 
> JOSM.
> The layer with images taken during Spring 2015 used to be available here: 
> wms:http://www.gis.irisnet.be/arcgis/rest/services/basemap/ortho2015/MapServer/export?f=image=jpeg=False={proj}=3857=3857={bbox}={width},{height}
> 
> It’s been a few days where this data seems to have been removed from their 
> server.
> Apparently, only the 2004 and 2012 aerial views are still available.
> http://www.gis.irisnet.be/arcgis/rest/services/basemap
> 
> Does anyone know of an alternative location to get this data?
> I wrote to CIRB-CIBG, the Brussels institute in charge of this, but no reply 
> so far.
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> Yves
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where has Brussels UrbIS 2015 aerial imagery gone?

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Hi Yves,

If I remember correctly, I think you use the old URL.

The new URL should be : 

wms:http://geoservices-urbis.irisnet.be/geoserver/ows/?SERVICE=WMS=1.3.0=GetMap=image%2Fpng=true=Urbis%3AOrtho2015={width}={height}=EPSG%3A3857=={bbox}

:)

Jonathan Beliën

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Objet : [OSM-talk-be] Where has Brussels UrbIS 2015 aerial imagery gone?

Hello,

The most recent set of aerial imagery for Brussels comes from low-altitude 
flights commissioned by the Region.
Very useful to map public space in Brussels and it integrates perfectly in JOSM.
The layer with images taken during Spring 2015 used to be available here: 
wms:http://www.gis.irisnet.be/arcgis/rest/services/basemap/ortho2015/MapServer/export?f=image=jpeg=False={proj}=3857=3857={bbox}={width},{height}

It’s been a few days where this data seems to have been removed from their 
server.
Apparently, only the 2004 and 2012 aerial views are still available.
http://www.gis.irisnet.be/arcgis/rest/services/basemap

Does anyone know of an alternative location to get this data?
I wrote to CIRB-CIBG, the Brussels institute in charge of this, but no reply so 
far.


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapper meeting in Louvain-la-Neuve/reunion de mappeurs à Louvain-la-Neuve 24/03

[Jonathan Beliën]

Pour les plus francophones (ou les moins anglophones, au choix),

 

Excuses voor de nederlandstalige mensen, omdat de bijeenkomst plaats vindt in 
Louvain-La-Neuve, heb ik geen vertaling van dit bericht in het Nederlands, maar 
je bent natuurlijk van harte welkom! We spreken hier Nederlands, Frans en 
Engels !

 

Nous avons enfin notre « premier » meetup wallon !

Il aura lieu à Louvain-La-Neuve le 24 Mars à 19:00 !

 

Amis wallons, c’est le moment de vous manifester !

Nous sommes bien conscient que Louvain-La-Neuve n’est pas vraiment central (et 
probablement un peu loin de certains mappeurs wallons) mais il fallait bien 
commencer quelque part. Nous organiserons d’autres meetup en Wallonie, 
n’hésitez pas à nous contacter si vous voulez que cela s’organise dans votre 
ville !

 

Nous parlons anglais, néerlandais mais aussi français bien évidemment.

Si vous n’êtes pas à l’aise avec la langue de Vondel et/ou celle de 
Shakespeare, nous nous ferons un plaisir de discuter avec vous d’OpenStreetMap 
en français.

 

Nous espérons vous y voir nombreux !

Toutes les informations se trouvent ici : 
https://www.meetup.com/fr-FR/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/238062854/?eventId=238062854
 

 

Bonne journée.

 

 

 

Jonathan Beliën

 

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Hello, 

 

We've just created the meetup for the next meetup in LLN (Louvain-la-Neuve) on 
Friday the

24st of March at La Crêperie Bretonne - La Mère Fillioux (remember -> delicious 
pancake and beer !), I hope it will attract more people ! ;-)

 

Everybody is more than welcome to come! 

 

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Looking forward seeing you there! 

 

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapper meeting in BXL/reunion de mappeurs à BXL 21/02

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Thanks Marc !

 

I updated the Maptime page : http://maptime.io/belgium/

 

See you there.

 

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

 

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Envoyé : vendredi 3 février 2017 12:31
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org>
Objet : [OSM-talk-be] mapper meeting in BXL/reunion de mappeurs à BXL 21/02

 

Hello,

I've just created a meetup for the next meetup in BXL on Tuesday the 21st of 
February at the sister café near the Grand Place

Everybody is more than welcome to come!

https://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/237424260/

 

Looking forward seeing you there!

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wrong tagging of name bicycle_rental

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hello,

Indeed the full address in the name is not very sexy on the map...

Here is the station you mentionned : 
* http://www.villo.be/Toutes-les-stations/Carte-des-stations/%28id%29/357
* https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3905108607

I would 
1. add only "Station n° 357" for the name (or something like "Villo! Station 
357") ;
2. Add ref:villo = 357
3. Maybe add the address (in this case, it's an intersection) in the 
description tag ?

That is what I would do, but I'll be to learn how it "should" be tagged :D

Good afternoon everyone !


Jonathan Beliën

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Envoyé : mardi 31 janvier 2017 16:47
À : talk-be@openstreetmap.org
Objet : [OSM-talk-be] Wrong tagging of name bicycle_rental

What must be done here? finding the mapper ? or organisation?
The mapper puts into the "name" tag the adress...I thought adress are in adress 
tagfor sure example this node... See also the relation 271476 of the 
rentals...
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.83401997926138/4.457859929800588
Are these the correct names or was it to show it on the maps..
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] OpenStreetMap meeting in Bruxelles on January, 16

[Jonathan Beliën]

And on our Maptime chapter : http://maptime.io/belgium/

 

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

 

De : joost schouppe [mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com] 
Envoyé : vendredi 16 décembre 2016 11:42
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] OpenStreetMap meeting in Bruxelles on January, 16

 

Added to the main calendar > 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Calendar

So it will appear in WeeklyOSM

 

2016-12-16 10:12 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Beliën <j...@geo6.be>:

Published on Twitter :)

 

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

 

De : Bessières, Marc [mailto:marc.bessie...@mykolab.com] 
Envoyé : jeudi 15 décembre 2016 21:22
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : [OSM-talk-be] OpenStreetMap meeting in Bruxelles on January, 16

 

Hello,

Here is the meetup for an OSM meeting in Bruxelles on January the 16th:

https://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/236264469/

 

If someone could help me and post it on the wiki, and maybe on twitter?

I posted it on Facebook too.

Cheers,

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] OpenStreetMap meeting in Bruxelles on January, 16

[Jonathan Beliën]

Published on Twitter :)

 

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

 

De : Bessières, Marc [mailto:marc.bessie...@mykolab.com] 
Envoyé : jeudi 15 décembre 2016 21:22
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : [OSM-talk-be] OpenStreetMap meeting in Bruxelles on January, 16

 

Hello,

Here is the meetup for an OSM meeting in Bruxelles on January the 16th:

https://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/236264469/

 

If someone could help me and post it on the wiki, and maybe on twitter?

I posted it on Facebook too.

Cheers,

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping Hackaton en préparation les 25,26/03 & 01/04 au Pianofabriek

[Jonathan Beliën]

Bonjour Laurent, 

Je viens de jeter un coup d'œil à votre projet qui a l'air fort intéressant.
J'essayerai d'être présent au hackathon, faut-il s'inscrire quelque part ?

Par contre, j'ai déjà une remarque sur votre application cartographique : votre 
certificat SSL pour "maps.dewey.be" est expiré depuis le 12 Décembre.

Bonne journée.

Jonathan Beliën
GEO-6

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Envoyé : mercredi 14 décembre 2016 23:37
À : talk-be@openstreetmap.org
Objet : [OSM-talk-be] Mapping Hackaton en préparation les 25,26/03 & 01/04 au 
Pianofabriek

Bonsoir,

Pour info, Dewey.be (à l'origine du projet Belgique Mode d'Emploi) prépare un 
mapping hackaton les 25, 26 mars ainsi que le 1er avril 2017.
L'événement aura lieu au Pianofabriek à St-Gilles

Une première réunion s'est tenue ce soir même. Si vous êtes intéressés soit de 
participer soit de vous impliquer dans l'organisation, vous pouvez contacter 
Mathieu : mathieu.simon...@gmail.com

BàV

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

[Jonathan Beliën]

Haha,

Awesome ! Let's make a LEGO version of OSM \o/
But I think I'm disgressing from the current topic...

I'm not good at art stuff and I'm definitely not a designer but I'm sure we
can manage to do something good (or not too bad) anyway.
Any designer available in OpenStreetMap crew ?


Jonathan

Le mar. 13 déc. 2016 à 17:18, Glenn Plas <gl...@byte-consult.be> a écrit :

> Hey Jonathan,
>
> On 13-12-16 17:05, Jonathan Beliën wrote:
> > Hi Glenn,
> >
> > We didn't really discuss about that last Sunday but I'll be happy to
> help with PHP/JAVASCRIPT/HTML/CSS !
>
> Thanks Jonathan, we seem to share a lot of interests (*) ;-)
>
> I didn't really yell for help on Sunday, probably should have.  I will
> send you the details asap and where I'm at.  It would be awesome to not
> have to worry about GUI stuff, I'm not a artistic person, I'm visually
> challenged in CSS.
>
> Glenn
>
> * : http://bricks.stackexchange.com/users/1122/glenn-plas
>
> >
> > Good afternoon.
> >
> > Jonathan Beliën
> >
> > -Message d'origine-
> > De : Glenn Plas [mailto:gl...@byte-consult.be]
> > Envoyé : mardi 13 décembre 2016 16:44
> > À : OpenStreetMap Belgium
> > Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th
> >
> > On 13-12-16 14:18, Santens Seppe wrote:
> >> Looking forward to it!
> >>
> >> I had a quick look at the documentation and tried the tools, but I
> >> don’t feel confident enough to have a go at it. A short training would
> be nice.
> >
> > The tool will also be updated before we start, since it's a R version
> right now.  A v2 version is on the way, the source code is public too.
> > It will be a lot more user-friendly, less-nerdy.  I'm about halfway
> through merging functionalities.
> >
> > We will organise workshops to get everyone aligned.  The meeting was
> quite productive and rather fast as well.  We have a main strategy and 2
> backup strategies to get this proposal accepted.
> >
> > Looking at my schedule, it will probably be ready mid januari but I'm
> swamped in paid work so this target is optimistic.  with all the festivit
> >
> > If anyone who knows some php/javascript/css (or even the Laravel
> > framework) and you want to help, please contact me and I will get the
> ball rolling.  I could use a CSS expert to assist me in making it pretty
> and functional on the GUI side.
> >
> > Thanks for the patience and also thanks for showing restraint in
> importing data when you are not sure, it's an excellent decision in the
> context and timing of this project.
> >
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Seppe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Van:*Ben Abelshausen [mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com]
> >> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 13 december 2016 14:10 *Aan:*OpenStreetMap
> >> Belgium
> >> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We are working on a blogpost... :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Ben Abelshausen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Any chance we see a list of accomplishments somewhere ?
> >>
> >> regards
> >>
> >> m
> >>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

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Hi Glenn,

We didn't really discuss about that last Sunday but I'll be happy to help with 
PHP/JAVASCRIPT/HTML/CSS !

Good afternoon.

Jonathan Beliën

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Envoyé : mardi 13 décembre 2016 16:44
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On 13-12-16 14:18, Santens Seppe wrote:
> Looking forward to it!
> 
> I had a quick look at the documentation and tried the tools, but I 
> don’t feel confident enough to have a go at it. A short training would be 
> nice.

The tool will also be updated before we start, since it's a R version right 
now.  A v2 version is on the way, the source code is public too.
It will be a lot more user-friendly, less-nerdy.  I'm about halfway through 
merging functionalities.

We will organise workshops to get everyone aligned.  The meeting was quite 
productive and rather fast as well.  We have a main strategy and 2 backup 
strategies to get this proposal accepted.

Looking at my schedule, it will probably be ready mid januari but I'm swamped 
in paid work so this target is optimistic.  with all the festivit

If anyone who knows some php/javascript/css (or even the Laravel
framework) and you want to help, please contact me and I will get the ball 
rolling.  I could use a CSS expert to assist me in making it pretty and 
functional on the GUI side.

Thanks for the patience and also thanks for showing restraint in importing data 
when you are not sure, it's an excellent decision in the context and timing of 
this project.


Glenn

> 
>  
> 
> Seppe
> 
>  
> 
> *Van:*Ben Abelshausen [mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com]
> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 13 december 2016 14:10 *Aan:*OpenStreetMap 
> Belgium
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th
> 
>  
> 
> We are working on a blogpost... :-)
> 
>  
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
> 
> Ben Abelshausen
> 
>  
> 
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Any chance we see a list of accomplishments somewhere ?
> 
> regards
> 
> m
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] introducing OSM

[Jonathan Beliën]

Even better !
It would be indeed really awesome to use Markdown to generate our
presentations and use the repository to store those Markdown files.

Jonathan

Le sam. 19 nov. 2016 à 15:22, Ruben <talk-be.ru...@janmaes.com> a écrit :

> On 9 November 2016 13:30:33 CET, "Jonathan Beliën" <j...@geo6.be> wrote:
>
> We can indeed start with a list of links in the README file. Let’s try to
> organize this list the best way possible (Introduction to OSM, iD related
> presentations, HOT related presentations, …).
>
>
>
> But I think it would be great to store those presentation in the
> repository too ; versioning of those presentation (that’s what GIT is
> for :D) could be useful.
>
>
>
> Jonathan Beliën
>
> GEO-6
>
>
>
> *De :* joost schouppe [mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com]
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 9 novembre 2016 13:12
> *À :* OpenStreetMap Belgium
> *Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk-be] introducing OSM
>
>
>
> I created https://github.com/osmbe/presentations/
>
>
>
> Maybe we can just add links in the Readme?
>
>
>
> In that case, if you already have an account, you can go straight to:
>
>
>
> https://github.com/osmbe/presentations/edit/master/README.md
>
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> recently discovered and I intend to use for all my simple presentation
> slideshows in the future. It makes PDF slides from a Markdown source. You
> can present those with any PDF presenter (my personal favourite is pdfpc:
> https://pdfpc.github.io/).
>
> Speaking about versioning with Git, this is ideal since you write your
> presentation in Markdown (which is also very, very easy to learn if you
> don't know it) and can have useful diffs.
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[OSM-talk-be] Tasking Manager - HTTPS Status

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hi guys,

I did some research about the HTTPS problem between the Tasking Manager and
JOSM.
To make it short ... it doesn't work ! (technical details below if you're
interested)

So to make our Tasking Manager usable I disabled the HTTPS.
You can access the Tasking Manager here : http://tasks.osm.be/ and HTTPS
requests will be redirected to HTTP.
I do not like it ... at all ... but hey, it's better if users can actually
use the Tasking Manager !

Feel free to contact me if you have any issue with the Tasking Manager. I
will follow https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2 to update it
whenever it needs to !


Now, for the geeky ones, here are some technical details :

First information, it's not (totally) related to the Tasking Manager but
it's rather JSOM related.
Bad news, the issue was raised back in 2014 and apparently, there still is
no fix.

For those who does not know the difference between HTTP and HTTPS, it's
pretty simple : the S stands for SECURED. Everything is encrypted between
the client (you) and the server (the Tasking Manager). In this case, it's
no big deal if it's not encrypted but in my own opinion, in 2016, it's easy
to encrypt so everything should be !

There is actually 2 issues here :
1. When the client use an encrypted connection (HTTPS), the browser blocks
everything that is not encrypted.
2. The browser also blocks everything that is encrypted but not encrypted
witch a certificate trusted by a Certification Authority (CA)

To make the link between the Tasking Manager and JOSM, the Tasking Manager
opens a page with an HTTP request (so NOT secured) [http://127.0.0.1:8111/]
that asks to JOSM to download data, imagery, ... Since the request is NOT
secured and the Tasking Manager is, the browser blocks the request and then
appears the well known message "Editing failed - make sure JOSM or
Merkaartor is loaded and the remote control option is enabled".
https://www.openstreetmap.org/ found a solution to that problem : it opens
a page with an HTTPS request [https://127.0.0.1:8112/] but ...

Here comes the second problem : the browser blocks every HTTPS requests
that uses a certificate that is not trusted by a CA.
There is a solution though : if you manually accept the certificate, it
will work ... but not very convenient for standard users.

I will keep an eye about it and enable HTTPS again when it is fixed (if it
is fixed).


Good night everyone !

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] introducing OSM

[Jonathan Beliën]

We can indeed start with a list of links in the README file. Let’s try to 
organize this list the best way possible (Introduction to OSM, iD related 
presentations, HOT related presentations, …).

 

But I think it would be great to store those presentation in the repository too 
; versioning of those presentation (that’s what GIT is for :D) could be useful.

 

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

 

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Envoyé : mercredi 9 novembre 2016 13:12
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] introducing OSM

 

I created https://github.com/osmbe/presentations/

 

Maybe we can just add links in the Readme?

 

In that case, if you already have an account, you can go straight to:

 

https://github.com/osmbe/presentations/edit/master/README.md 

 

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] introducing OSM

[Jonathan Beliën]

I think a new repository on https://github.com/osmbe for 
documentations/presentations could be  a good (and « easy ») way to store (and 
organise) that sort of things.

But it will maybe be a little bit too « nerdy » for some people …

 

Jonathan Beliën

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Envoyé : mercredi 9 novembre 2016 11:08
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Objet : [OSM-talk-be] introducing OSM

 

Hi,

 

Several of us have done presentations to introduce OSM. What we tell exactly 
depends on the public, of course. But it would be nice to collect some of these 
efforts.

 

Any suggestions for a place where we could share these presentations?

 

I try to keep mine here:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xsr4ed9w5dwgzab/AAAMeTT-bpnt7BLmvt7OSYWUa?dl=0


 

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Missing Maps, in Belgium

[Jonathan Beliën]

Thanks Ben !

 

Well, another solution is to use Potlatch ! Right Joost ? :D

 

Jonathan Beliën

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Envoyé : mercredi 9 novembre 2016 10:53
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Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] Missing Maps, in Belgium
Importance : Haute

 

Some more info:

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/735




Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen

 

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Glenn Plas <gl...@byte-consult.be> wrote:

On 09-11-16 09:28, Jonathan Beliën wrote:
> Oops, I’ll try to fix that this weekend !

afaik, it's not really fixable on the website, it's because your browser
uses the method you use to visit the website.  So if you want remote
control to work, you can offer the task manager unencrypted which could
give you problems with osm oauth2 logins. It's been a while since I
tested such a setup, not 100% sure.

since remote control that listens on both localhost/8111(non-ssl) and
localhost/8112(ssl) does not let the call pass using ssl (your browser
in fact), due to certificate issues (on your pc)

>
> @Glenn : I already use Let’s Encrypt certificate for the Task Manager ;-)

I use it everywhere.  +1 for your SSL choices :)

> Sorry for the inconvenience !
>

not your fault.  It's how it is.  to fix this, you need to get some
certificates installed locally (self-signed)

see: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Preferences/RemoteControl

and: "In addition you may need to tell your browser to accept the
self-signed JOSM HTTPS certificate"

Give that a try

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Missing Maps, in Belgium

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Oops, I’ll try to fix that this weekend !

 

@Glenn : I already use Let’s Encrypt certificate for the Task Manager ;-)

 

Sorry for the inconvenience !

 

Jonathan Beliën

 

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Envoyé : mardi 8 novembre 2016 16:49
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Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] Missing Maps, in Belgium

 

I did some tests and remote control doesn't work in JOSM, probably because we 
use HTTPS. I tried with tasks.hotosm.org but no HTTPS there.

There is an HTTPS option in JOSM but that also doesn't work. Can we update our 
taskingmanager to trigger JOSM's remote control using HTTPS?




Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen

 

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Glenn Plas <gl...@byte-consult.be> wrote:

I do agree, for more widespread things like missing streets, it's
probably quite useful.  En per 'theme' like shops, it's excellent.  I
didn't know you could not-use the squares, but like I said, my R was
on task manager 1, and I understand it's at major version 2 now.

But for GRB (and that is the kicker of my solution)  You don't need a
task manager as the diff's between GRB to-be-imported data and the
existing data is solved in the browser itself.  So that's a seamless
situation.  You can do it per building(s) (when I'm done adding that
small functionality). It's now using the view bounding box to limit the
data.

Since JOSM is the catalyst in this solution, we benefit from all things
JOSM brings (validation/mapcss etc.) to the table.

The missing roads is probably on the top of the list of (want)todo's.

@marc : I've seen some of 'his/her' work too and there are indeed some
small issues from time to time.  But this person is willing to change
his habits too, I've had some comments in the past (slow roads/trage
wegen) and he made hist tagging more consistent so (s)he's open for
suggestions.

Glenn



On 08-11-16 12:59, joost schouppe wrote:
> Honestly I wasn't thinking about organizing your work with this tasking
> manager :)
> If you enjoy your heavy surveying or your efficient imports, I
> absolutely agree there is no extra value in a tasking manager.
> I'm more interested in tools that help finding new mappers, help them on
> their first steps and hopefully turn a few of them into mappers as crazy
> as you guys.
>
> Here's how I'm using it myself in the example task:
> - map those roads that are present in Wegenregister and clearly missing
> in OSM
> - make fixme notes for cases where it isn't quite clear
> - When this is done, I mark the task as "ready". Then I load the data to
> my Osmand, and go for a walk where I check some fixme's in the field
> (there's a layer for that in Osmand).
> - When the findings are incorporated into the data, I can finally
> "validate" the tile.
>
> This is useful to me because it allows me to keep focused on the task at
> hand (I've been known to wander), make sure I cover the entire territory
> and go out surveying efficiently (I don't really go out surveying, I
> walk the dog in areas where I haven't been yet). And Wegspotter mapped a
> few squares yesterday, so now I can skip straight to the dog-walking
> part in that area.
>
> In other tasks, this flow could be entirely different. For the "shops
> with mapillary in Brussels" example, you could easily have a flow where
> beginners do the labour of translating mapillary images into shops. The
> validation would then be to check the tagging and mark spots where the
> imagery wasn't complete enough. A last surveying phase would be to grab
> a mobile editor and add those last shops. But that would then be
> possible on a quick walk - you wouldn't have to be using the clumsy
> mobile editor or walking paper all the time. A lot of people are turned
> off by surveying because you're collecting so much data that the mapping
> afterwards takes way too long. In this little idea, you could map in the
> field without freezing to death.
>
> On a technical note: you don't have to use squares. You can also upload
> a custom task division. For city mapping, neighborhoods would be
> perfect. For Missing Maps Wallonia, it could be "residential areas
> without buildings". For a GRB import, it could be tiny tiny squares, or
> a custom division of Flanders into areas with similar numbers of buildings.
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] a slightly more formal meetup

[Jonathan Beliën]

MapTime does indeed seems very cool.

Warn us when « our » chapter is ready :D

 

MolenGeek is not that far :

· 6 minutes from « Gare Centrale » (METRO 1)

· 16 minutes from « Garde du Nord » (TRAM 4 + METRO 1)

· 18 minutes from « Gare du midi » (TRAM 51 or METRO 6 + 1)

But indeed, it requires to use STIB/MIVB ^_^

There is probably good places near the city center (but I do not know any).

 

 

 

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Envoyé : mercredi 12 octobre 2016 13:53
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This maptime thing is quite cool, Jorieke.

More info here: http://maptime.io/about/

I went ahead and created a chapter :)

Really something we should do together with OSgeo.

 

The best date from the poll was Monday, November 21st. So let's pin that one.

 

For a location:

- who has good contacts at ESI? Otherwise, I'll ask our prospective mapathon 
contact there.

- Molengeek looks really cool, but rather far from the railway stations.

- during SotM, I wrote down the names of two more cool things similar to 
Molengeek. And I lost them! Anyone have an idea what they could have been?

 

 

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] a slightly more formal meetup

[Jonathan Beliën]

Thanks guys :D

 

ESI could indeed be a good place ;

 

I have good contacts with MolenGeek, a startup incubator in Molenbeek ; great 
people and they have meeting rooms we could probably use (I did not asked yet).

Could be good to put Molenbeek back on the « good guys » map :D

 

 

 

 

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GEO-6

 

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Envoyé : mercredi 5 octobre 2016 09:51
À : Jo Hannes; OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] a slightly more formal meetup

 

I think we can do ESI. Good location and we already have some contacts there.

 

Also, I was just kidding, poor Jonathan.

 

2016-10-05 9:47 GMT+02:00 Jo <winfi...@gmail.com>:

 

 

2016-10-05 9:28 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Beliën <j...@geo6.be>:

Seems like Jonathan will organize the whole thing :)

 

Yeaaah … Well … Uuuuh … :D

 

We have your back. It would be great if you can find a suitable venue. Part of 
the reason why I'm not organizing much myself anymore is that the search for a 
venue in another city like Lier is also quite an effort.

 

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] a slightly more formal meetup

[Jonathan Beliën]

Seems like Jonathan will organize the whole thing :)

 

Yeaaah … Well … Uuuuh … :D

 

Jonathan Beliën

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Envoyé : mercredi 5 octobre 2016 09:09
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] a slightly more formal meetup

 

I think we have our speakers :)

(I myself would love to talk about GR mapping, Wegenregister and some of the 
subjects Marc mentioned)

 

About the language thing: of the 155 people who opened our newsletter, 13 
clicked through to the French translation, and 4 to the Dutch (it was the very 
first link in view). I think that's really a lot of effort for little gain. If 
we have more volunteers organizing stuff, I do agree it makes sense to talk to 
people in their own language. Being extremely local does work: when I did a 
meetup here in Halle, someone came from a small town 45 minutes away, because 
he preferred going to something in a small town, rather than in nearby 
Mechelen. But at this time, I think there's real value in doing things that are 
open to both Brussels and Flemish people. Especially as we have Flemish 
volunteers who have been working a little too hard, and a lot of energy in 
Brussels right now.

And don't forget there is a huge international community in Brussels, for whom 
often both French and Dutch are quite exotic. 

 

So please do sign up on the framapad, and let's pick a date. Seems like 
Jonathan will organize the whole thing :)

Seriously though, let me know if you're interested to help out and I'll keep 
you in the loop.

 

 

 

 

2016-10-05 9:03 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Beliën <j...@geo6.be>:

Hi everyone,

 

Awesome idea !

 

Not very comfortable (yet ?) to give a talk ;

But I live in Brussels so I could totally help to organise the thing (find a 
place, …) !

 

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

 

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Envoyé : mardi 4 octobre 2016 19:59
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : [OSM-talk-be] a slightly more formal meetup

 

Hi,

 

I'm very happy to see another bar meetup in Brussels! [1] You should all come :)

 

But would anyone be interested in a little more formal thing? I believe it was 
in Hungaria where they frequently do meetups with two or three presentations, 
roughly related to OpenStreetMap. They always get about 50 participants, which 
sounds great. Don't worry, there would be beers and lemonades afterwards. 

 

The logical place would be Brussels, as it is the most central location. It 
takes a little more time and effort to organize, but I think some of the 
amazing Brussels based people might be interested to help out.

 

Anyway, I made a framadate to check if anyone is interested, and if so, when 
[2]. Interested to find out if anyone is willing to help or present something.

 

We can of course discuss the idea over a geuze at the next Brussels meetup.

 

 

1: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/234599761/

2: https://framadate.org/74wPQ5W8AVKNUhjp

 

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM in French and Dutch

[Jonathan Beliën]

The only cost would be the cost of the hosting server.

 

The cost will depend on the use of the « service » : do we want a « tile » 
server that could be used by everyone 24/7 or is it only a « test » service 
(that we may only use for testing and development) ? The first use case will 
need a more powerful server (so more expensive server) obviously.

We could begin small of course.

 

The volume of data is important in the cost calculation. I think full OSM is 
approximately 50 Go, right ?

 

Once the date is processed, the tiles are saved on the disk. These tiles also 
costs volume but it is mostly the amount of those tiles (around 100.000.000.000 
tiles for the whole world : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Zoom_levels) 
that can be a problem.

 

I use OVH services ; the server I suggest to begin with would be :

· A could server (more flexible) : 
https://www.ovh.com/fr/cloud/instances/ram.xml = 35.00 EUR HT/month 
(+additionnal disk depending on the area covered)

· A dedicated server (more « robust ») : 
https://www.ovh.com/fr/serveurs_dedies/hosting/ = 59.99 EUR HT/month

 

There is of course other provider but I only worked with OVH so far and I am 
very happy with it.

On the other hand, I have absolutely NO idea if those 2 servers could handle 
100.000.000.000 files :D

I can ask them.

 

 

For demo purpose I could host it on one of my servers (but limited to Belgium 
^^).

 

 

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

 

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Envoyé : mardi 9 août 2016 13:09
À : Jonathan Beliën
Cc : OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM in French and Dutch

 

Hi Jonathan,

 

That would be extremely cool. Do you have an idea of the costs involved in 
setting this up for the area you mention and for the whole world?

 

I think if we can have a demo by SOTM, we might find someone to sponsor it 
there.

 

Joost

 

2016-08-09 12:39 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Beliën <j...@geo6.be>:

Hi everyone,

 

Good point indeed.

 

It’s not very complicated to generate a custom rendering. For example, I did it 
for BeNeLux + France + Germany using imposm 3 (https://imposm.org/ ) and 
MapServer + MapProxy for rendering. 

 

My rendering use « default » names but I could have used NL name or FR names as 
needed.

 

It works quite well and it’s not too complicated (even with a recurring 
update). The only problem is the disk space those « tiles » use on the server. 
It’s already quite big for the small area I cover (BeNeLux + north of France + 
west of Germany) ; I can’t imagine the number of tiles if we want to cover the 
whole world.

 

I do not know how to organize that but we could have a « Belgium OSM rendering 
FR » and a « Belgium OSM rendering NL » created, hosted and maintained by « 
OSM.be ».

 

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

 

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Envoyé : mardi 9 août 2016 11:38
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Objet : [OSM-talk-be] OSM in French and Dutch
Importance : Haute

 

Hi,

 

Someone asked on Twitter about a rendering of OSM in Dutch and French to avoid 
the clutter of bilingual names in the standard rendering.

 

https://twitter.com/iciBrussels/status/762743820358418432

 

The French render is easy, OSM France provides it. But how about a Dutch 
rendering? Do you know of one?

 

It might be cool to create a little webmap on OSM.be with the three official 
languages. If you help me find a Dutch rendering, I can make that (I've just 
learned the basics about leaflet).

 

It looks rather easy to make a style with mapbox, but you need to extract the 
data through Overpass for exotic languages like Dutch, so it would be a bit of 
a job to keep that up to date.


 

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM in French and Dutch

[Jonathan Beliën]

Hi everyone,

 

Good point indeed.

 

It’s not very complicated to generate a custom rendering. For example, I did it 
for BeNeLux + France + Germany using imposm 3 (https://imposm.org/ ) and 
MapServer + MapProxy for rendering. 

 

My rendering use « default » names but I could have used NL name or FR names as 
needed.

 

It works quite well and it’s not too complicated (even with a recurring 
update). The only problem is the disk space those « tiles » use on the server. 
It’s already quite big for the small area I cover (BeNeLux + north of France + 
west of Germany) ; I can’t imagine the number of tiles if we want to cover the 
whole world.

 

I do not know how to organize that but we could have a « Belgium OSM rendering 
FR » and a « Belgium OSM rendering NL » created, hosted and maintained by « 
OSM.be ».

 

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

 

De : joost schouppe [mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com] 
Envoyé : mardi 9 août 2016 11:38
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : [OSM-talk-be] OSM in French and Dutch
Importance : Haute

 

Hi,

 

Someone asked on Twitter about a rendering of OSM in Dutch and French to avoid 
the clutter of bilingual names in the standard rendering.

 

https://twitter.com/iciBrussels/status/762743820358418432

 

The French render is easy, OSM France provides it. But how about a Dutch 
rendering? Do you know of one?

 

It might be cool to create a little webmap on OSM.be with the three official 
languages. If you help me find a Dutch rendering, I can make that (I've just 
learned the basics about leaflet).

 

It looks rather easy to make a style with mapbox, but you need to extract the 
data through Overpass for exotic languages like Dutch, so it would be a bit of 
a job to keep that up to date.


 

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