hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread Mando Chef
Hey all,
I recorded a jam from the other day.  I have recorded myself with
other in the past but have never gotten used to hearing my self, the
mandolin I am used to, but me, no.

There are times that in the heat of the moment I feel there are some
great harmonies but when I listen back I hear inadequacies(sp?).
Maybe it's just a more careful listen, looking for errors or how to
improve for next time.  Whether or not I did my job properly vocally
rarely does it sound like me.

So here goes a more direct approach Do you ever get used to
hearing your own voice on recordings?

Adam

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Re: hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Seale
Hell, Adam, I can't stand to hear my voice on voicemail, much less singing!

M



On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,
 I recorded a jam from the other day.  I have recorded myself with
 other in the past but have never gotten used to hearing my self, the
 mandolin I am used to, but me, no.

 There are times that in the heat of the moment I feel there are some
 great harmonies but when I listen back I hear inadequacies(sp?).
 Maybe it's just a more careful listen, looking for errors or how to
 improve for next time.  Whether or not I did my job properly vocally
 rarely does it sound like me.

 So here goes a more direct approach Do you ever get used to
 hearing your own voice on recordings?

 Adam

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Re: hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread Topher Gayle
Over many years of hearing my recorded voice, I am resigned to
sounding must wimpier that I wish I did. I want to sounds liek Ray
Charles or Junior Brown and I sound like, well, not at all like
them...

But we play the cards we are dealt. We can improve our voices if we
work at it, but I don't. It's hard enough for me to remember the
words. So I remain the Ringo: of whatever band I'm in, singing the
comedy songs and backup, and mainly keeping my mouth shut!

Topher



On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Bill Burnette bburne...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think it's fairly common to be surprised how you sound on tape- and most
 people don't like it. I read a quote years ago from Vince Gill saying
 something to the effect that part of becoming a great singer is becoming
 comfortable with the sound of your own voice. I'm not there- I doubt I ever
 will be. Some people seem to really like my voice, others don't seem too
 impressed. I'm in the latter group...

 Bill from Nashville

 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hell, Adam, I can't stand to hear my voice on voicemail, much less
 singing!

 M


 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey all,
 I recorded a jam from the other day.  I have recorded myself with
 other in the past but have never gotten used to hearing my self, the
 mandolin I am used to, but me, no.

 There are times that in the heat of the moment I feel there are some
 great harmonies but when I listen back I hear inadequacies(sp?).
 Maybe it's just a more careful listen, looking for errors or how to
 improve for next time.  Whether or not I did my job properly vocally
 rarely does it sound like me.

 So here goes a more direct approach Do you ever get used to
 hearing your own voice on recordings?

 Adam

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Re: hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread Dasspunk
Chef,

Yes, you will eventually get used to hearing your own voice/mando.
That's not to say you'll be okay with it... just used to it :) I would
(and do) opine that one absolutely must listen to oneself play and
sing regularly in order to improve. Doing so is quite the ear opener
to be sure and is oftentimes painful, yes... I record all of my shows
and as the saying goes, the truth hurts... I'm still waiting for the
set me free part

I can think of a few folks whom I wish I could FORCE to listen to
themselves play ;)

Brian


On Dec 2, 10:10 am, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,
 I recorded a jam from the other day.  I have recorded myself with
 other in the past but have never gotten used to hearing my self, the
 mandolin I am used to, but me, no.

 There are times that in the heat of the moment I feel there are some
 great harmonies but when I listen back I hear inadequacies(sp?).
 Maybe it's just a more careful listen, looking for errors or how to
 improve for next time.  Whether or not I did my job properly vocally
 rarely does it sound like me.

 So here goes a more direct approach Do you ever get used to
 hearing your own voice on recordings?

 Adam

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Re: hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Seale
On that same note, I've recorded a few fiddlers' contests and judging them
real time is usually different than judging them from the recording.

The mind's a funny thing.

M
Speaking of which, the Texas Old Time Fiddlers Association annual convention
is this weekend in Nacogdoches, TX.  Come one, come all!

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chef,

 Yes, you will eventually get used to hearing your own voice/mando.
 That's not to say you'll be okay with it... just used to it :) I would
 (and do) opine that one absolutely must listen to oneself play and
 sing regularly in order to improve. Doing so is quite the ear opener
 to be sure and is oftentimes painful, yes... I record all of my shows
 and as the saying goes, the truth hurts... I'm still waiting for the
 set me free part

 I can think of a few folks whom I wish I could FORCE to listen to
 themselves play ;)

 Brian


 On Dec 2, 10:10 am, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey all,
  I recorded a jam from the other day.  I have recorded myself with
  other in the past but have never gotten used to hearing my self, the
  mandolin I am used to, but me, no.
 
  There are times that in the heat of the moment I feel there are some
  great harmonies but when I listen back I hear inadequacies(sp?).
  Maybe it's just a more careful listen, looking for errors or how to
  improve for next time.  Whether or not I did my job properly vocally
  rarely does it sound like me.
 
  So here goes a more direct approach Do you ever get used to
  hearing your own voice on recordings?
 
  Adam

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Re: Tis the Season

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Seale
nice!  I like the way that Gil is coming alive.

M



On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:28 PM, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Howdy

 I put the TAB to this Christmas tune up in the files section last year
 and finallly got around to making a YouTuber...it's sort of the
 opposite of Old Ebeneezer Scrooge and not very Monroe like :)

 Anyhow I posted this on that anti-mandolin capo site too so pardon if
 you've seen :)

 http://www.youtube.com/user/mcmule2007#p/u/0/tz3nCOFsYHc

 Perry

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Re: hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread Robin Gravina
Horrible experience yesterday singing the harmony part to 'another
night'. I thought I sounded mountain, but in fact it was the yowling
of a pained soul. Likewise the mandolin. It's not a pretty way to
learn, but you can't argue with the recording: stops delusions in a
moment,

2009/12/2, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net:
 I have recently started doing this as often as possible and it is pretty
 revealing. I've had the opportunity to both wince and pat myself on the
 back, so I recommend it for anyone who is intent on learning to improvise in
 this style. My .1 cents worth.




 
 From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 2:55:33 PM
 Subject: Re: hearing yourself

 Chef,

 Yes, you will eventually get used to hearing your own voice/mando.
 That's not to say you'll be okay with it... just used to it :) I would
 (and do) opine that one absolutely must listen to oneself play and
 sing regularly in order to improve. Doing so is quite the ear opener
 to be sure and is oftentimes painful, yes... I record all of my shows
 and as the saying goes, the truth hurts... I'm still waiting for the
 set me free part

 I can think of a few folks whom I wish I could FORCE to listen to
 themselves play ;)

 Brian


 On Dec 2, 10:10 am, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,
 I recorded a jam from the other day.  I have recorded myself with
 other in the past but have never gotten used to hearing my self, the
 mandolin I am used to, but me, no.

 There are times that in the heat of the moment I feel there are some
 great harmonies but when I listen back I hear inadequacies(sp?).
 Maybe it's just a more careful listen, looking for errors or how to
 improve for next time.  Whether or not I did my job properly vocally
 rarely does it sound like me.

 So here goes a more direct approach Do you ever get used to
 hearing your own voice on recordings?

 Adam

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Re: hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread mistertaterbug
Chef,
I will concur with a few of these lads and say that you will probably
not gain a fondness for the sound of your voice/playing coming back at
you, but you will eventually get used to what you sound like. Hartford
used to record everything he did and listen to it later. Mark O'Connor
used to practice with a tape recorder too. It's just that you can't
really get a good idea of what you really sound like behind the box
until you hear what you sound like in front of it. Like Steve says,
you will have a mix of attaboys and wincing. It's all good. And as
Robin said, you absolutely can't argue with a recording. So use it to
your advantage. It will point out technique flaws, timing flaws, pitch
flaws(singing), tone goobers, etc.

Be brave, grasshopper.
Taterbug

On Dec 2, 3:09 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Horrible experience yesterday singing the harmony part to 'another
 night'. I thought I sounded mountain, but in fact it was the yowling
 of a pained soul. Likewise the mandolin. It's not a pretty way to
 learn, but you can't argue with the recording: stops delusions in a
 moment,

 2009/12/2, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net:



  I have recently started doing this as often as possible and it is pretty
  revealing. I've had the opportunity to both wince and pat myself on the
  back, so I recommend it for anyone who is intent on learning to improvise in
  this style. My .1 cents worth.

  
  From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
  To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 2:55:33 PM
  Subject: Re: hearing yourself

  Chef,

  Yes, you will eventually get used to hearing your own voice/mando.
  That's not to say you'll be okay with it... just used to it :) I would
  (and do) opine that one absolutely must listen to oneself play and
  sing regularly in order to improve. Doing so is quite the ear opener
  to be sure and is oftentimes painful, yes... I record all of my shows
  and as the saying goes, the truth hurts... I'm still waiting for the
  set me free part

  I can think of a few folks whom I wish I could FORCE to listen to
  themselves play ;)

  Brian

  On Dec 2, 10:10 am, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey all,
  I recorded a jam from the other day.  I have recorded myself with
  other in the past but have never gotten used to hearing my self, the
  mandolin I am used to, but me, no.

  There are times that in the heat of the moment I feel there are some
  great harmonies but when I listen back I hear inadequacies(sp?).
  Maybe it's just a more careful listen, looking for errors or how to
  improve for next time.  Whether or not I did my job properly vocally
  rarely does it sound like me.

  So here goes a more direct approach Do you ever get used to
  hearing your own voice on recordings?

  Adam

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Re: hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread sgarrity
I can't sing.  Not a lick and I've tried.  I just can't tune my
voice.  I've played the fiddle, I can hear when my mando or guitar is
out of tune but I can't sing.  I have however been recording video
myself on the Macbook playing my various instruments.  Some of them
make it to YouTube and some don't.  I've always thought I had a pretty
good sense of timing.until I watched some of these videos.  It was
eye opening.  I do pretty good in a jam/band setting but playing by
myself my timing needs some work.  Like Don said in another thread,
That metronome can't keep time worth a damn!   LOL

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Re: hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread Linda
Just recently I took a risk and sang 'cluck old hen' with band backup
at a local open mic night.  Someone recorded it so I got to hear it.
I can say, my voice quality is living room average.  It was nice to
know I can sing in time and tune, I did remember all the lyrics, its a
tongue twister to sing, but that went ok too.  I thought my voice
quality was ...fair at best but what really got me was the
accent...that old Michigan twang just can't be beat out of a person..I
suppose.

So then ..a spate of voice lessons...to find what what I might could
do about it.
Did get a couple of worthwhile tips, fact is the voice is like another
instrument me thinks.
Still it was fun.

I really liked being alone at the mic, feeling the warmth of the
audience, the feeling of doing it.

I figure some folks always sound better in a harmony part thing rather
than a solo.  One thing I really don't like, no matter the sound of
the voice...is ..if the words being sung can't be heard
clearly...making a mush sound...that to me seems the worst thing, why
bother to sing if nobody can understand what the story is??  I suppose
there are exceptions to that too..

My voice is very average and unremarkable.  I thought it was better
than it is and that it was distinctive - wrong.  So now I know.  I
like to listen to distinctive voices that hang around in the auditory
memory...


linda

On Dec 3, 12:15 pm, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I can't sing.  Not a lick and I've tried.  I just can't tune my
 voice.  I've played the fiddle, I can hear when my mando or guitar is
 out of tune but I can't sing.  I have however been recording video
 myself on the Macbook playing my various instruments.  Some of them
 make it to YouTube and some don't.  I've always thought I had a pretty
 good sense of timing.until I watched some of these videos.  It was
 eye opening.  I do pretty good in a jam/band setting but playing by
 myself my timing needs some work.  Like Don said in another thread,
 That metronome can't keep time worth a damn!   LOL

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Re: New R.Wood mandos

2009-12-02 Thread john malayter
I like my beer like I like my women. Dark and warm..




On Dec 2, 12:12 am, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well you ain't got much else to do!

 On Dec 1, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Fred wrote:

  You're dead wrong there.  What with the time dilation effect of the  
  THC
  you ought to have all the time in the world to practice...just not  
  well.

  Robin Gravina wrote:
  Its hard to be a real pothead and have time to practice!
  Just theorising.

  2009/12/1, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
  No problem, John. Glad to see you're so easy to please. Nah, it  
  ain't
  a pot leaf. I asked him to take it off because lord knows if I was
  flashing that headstock around sooner or later I'd be invited to
  partake of the evil weed and I wouldn't be able to hold up my end. I
  tried for years to be a bonafide pothead and I just couldn't get the
  hang of it. So, on to other things like overpriced beer and quarter-
  cask Laphroaig. Whe!

  Toasted Tater

  On Nov 29, 8:15 am, john malayter malagr...@gmail.com wrote:
  That headstock will attract a lot of attention!

  LOL

  Thanks man it made my day

  JM

  On Nov 28, 9:30 pm, mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:

  That's a good look. My Gibson MM has the black buttons.
  Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
  -Original Message-
  From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
  Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:25:58
  To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: New R.Wood mandos
  Also, we talked about using the Elite tuners with the black  
  buttons.
  Sexy.
  TBug
  On Nov 28, 1:06 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
  wrote:
  Okay, here's a link to some pix of the R.Wood two-points...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45096...@n04/
  TBug
  On Nov 27, 4:56 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
  wrote:
  Here's a link to the electronics...
 http://www.kksound.com/mandolintwininternal.html
  Electri-tater
  On Nov 27, 10:48 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
  wrote:
  Here's a link to the first blurb regarding this subject:
 http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=737946#post737946
  The whole deal? This new Randy Wood mandolin design will be
  modeled
  after the Randy Wood two-point design that I played on for a  
  few
  years
  whilst with Hubert Davis. The original has a long scale and one
  piece
  back and top, snakehead design with rosewood overlay. The new  
  ones
  will be a faithful reproduction of the old #1, and will  
  include a
  pickguard and possibly an Allen tailpiece with Randy Wood's
  signature.
  The only significant difference will be that it will have a KK
  pickup
  system installed which will make the instrument acoustic/
  electric.
  The
  pickups are glued to the underside of the top and are two brass
  discs/
  diaphragms with wires attached. The only sign of the pickup  
  is the
  endpin jack. I tried out two prototypes in Randy's shop last
  weekend
  and the pickups are quite sensitive and sound surprisingly
  like...you
  got it...a mandolin. This system allows for playing the  
  mandolin
  and
  using the natural dynamics of the box.
  The two prototypes have compound radiused fingerboards, I  
  believe
  beginning at a 12 radius and ending with 18 which seems a lot
  more
  flat at the bridge, but still I'm not used to that feel, so  
  I've
  asked
  for a flat board. I believe Randy has used a very thin  
  lacquer for
  the
  finish.
  The two prototypes are for sale at $5K, one a pumpkin top and  
  the
  other sunburst. The sunburst neck is larger than the pumpkin.
  Randy
  says that each is offered with a money-back, no-questions-
  asked
  guarantee. I will be putting pics up of the two before long.  
  For
  all
  you folks who are in need of one of these, keep your eyes  
  peeled.
  I am looking forward to getting ahold of one of the finished
  models
  and trying it out. It will sure make my life easier in the  
  coming
  months, what with the EC sessions and tour. I think Randy said
  that we
  will be looking at a $6K pricetag, so that is well within the
  realm of
  possibility for folks wanting a top-notch  acoustic/electric.
  Taterbug
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RE: New R.Wood mandos

2009-12-02 Thread Dennis Fehling

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 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:53:46 -0800
 Subject: Re: New R.Wood mandos
 From: malagr...@gmail.com
 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 
 I like my beer like I like my women. Dark and warm..
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 2, 12:12 am, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well you ain't got much else to do!
 
  On Dec 1, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Fred wrote:
 
   You're dead wrong there.  What with the time dilation effect of the  
   THC
   you ought to have all the time in the world to practice...just not  
   well.
 
   Robin Gravina wrote:
   Its hard to be a real pothead and have time to practice!
   Just theorising.
 
   2009/12/1, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
   No problem, John. Glad to see you're so easy to please. Nah, it  
   ain't
   a pot leaf. I asked him to take it off because lord knows if I was
   flashing that headstock around sooner or later I'd be invited to
   partake of the evil weed and I wouldn't be able to hold up my end. I
   tried for years to be a bonafide pothead and I just couldn't get the
   hang of it. So, on to other things like overpriced beer and quarter-
   cask Laphroaig. Whe!
 
   Toasted Tater
 
   On Nov 29, 8:15 am, john malayter malagr...@gmail.com wrote:
   That headstock will attract a lot of attention!
 
   LOL
 
   Thanks man it made my day
 
   JM
 
   On Nov 28, 9:30 pm, mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   That's a good look. My Gibson MM has the black buttons.
   Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
   -Original Message-
   From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
   Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:25:58
   To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: New R.Wood mandos
   Also, we talked about using the Elite tuners with the black  
   buttons.
   Sexy.
   TBug
   On Nov 28, 1:06 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
   wrote:
   Okay, here's a link to some pix of the R.Wood two-points...
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/45096...@n04/
   TBug
   On Nov 27, 4:56 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
   wrote:
   Here's a link to the electronics...
  http://www.kksound.com/mandolintwininternal.html
   Electri-tater
   On Nov 27, 10:48 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
   wrote:
   Here's a link to the first blurb regarding this subject:
  http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=737946#post737946
   The whole deal? This new Randy Wood mandolin design will be
   modeled
   after the Randy Wood two-point design that I played on for a  
   few
   years
   whilst with Hubert Davis. The original has a long scale and one
   piece
   back and top, snakehead design with rosewood overlay. The new  
   ones
   will be a faithful reproduction of the old #1, and will  
   include a
   pickguard and possibly an Allen tailpiece with Randy Wood's
   signature.
   The only significant difference will be that it will have a KK
   pickup
   system installed which will make the instrument acoustic/
   electric.
   The
   pickups are glued to the underside of the top and are two brass
   discs/
   diaphragms with wires attached. The only sign of the pickup  
   is the
   endpin jack. I tried out two prototypes in Randy's shop last
   weekend
   and the pickups are quite sensitive and sound surprisingly
   like...you
   got it...a mandolin. This system allows for playing the  
   mandolin
   and
   using the natural dynamics of the box.
   The two prototypes have compound radiused fingerboards, I  
   believe
   beginning at a 12 radius and ending with 18 which seems a lot
   more
   flat at the bridge, but still I'm not used to that feel, so  
   I've
   asked
   for a flat board. I believe Randy has used a very thin  
   lacquer for
   the
   finish.
   The two prototypes are for sale at $5K, one a pumpkin top and  
   the
   other sunburst. The sunburst neck is larger than the pumpkin.
   Randy
   says that each is offered with a money-back, no-questions-
   asked
   guarantee. I will be putting pics up of the two before long.  
   For
   all
   you folks who are in need of one of these, keep your eyes  
   peeled.
   I am looking forward to getting ahold of one of the finished
   models
   and trying it out. It will sure make my life easier in the  
   coming
   months, what with the EC sessions and tour. I think Randy said
   that we
   will be looking at a $6K pricetag, so that is well within the
   realm of
   possibility for folks wanting a top-notch  acoustic/electric.
   Taterbug
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Re: New R.Wood mandos

2009-12-02 Thread mistertaterbug
Does that carry over to other species, Dennis? Nevermind. Forget I
asked you that.
Taterater

On Dec 2, 8:17 pm, Dennis Fehling denpamc...@msn.com wrote:
 any color and breathing is ok with me.

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  Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:53:46 -0800
  Subject: Re: New R.Wood mandos
  From: malagr...@gmail.com
  To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com

  I like my beer like I like my women. Dark and warm..

  On Dec 2, 12:12 am, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote:
   Well you ain't got much else to do!

   On Dec 1, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Fred wrote:

You're dead wrong there.  What with the time dilation effect of the  
THC
you ought to have all the time in the world to practice...just not  
well.

Robin Gravina wrote:
Its hard to be a real pothead and have time to practice!
Just theorising.

2009/12/1, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
No problem, John. Glad to see you're so easy to please. Nah, it  
ain't
a pot leaf. I asked him to take it off because lord knows if I was
flashing that headstock around sooner or later I'd be invited to
partake of the evil weed and I wouldn't be able to hold up my end. I
tried for years to be a bonafide pothead and I just couldn't get the
hang of it. So, on to other things like overpriced beer and quarter-
cask Laphroaig. Whe!

Toasted Tater

On Nov 29, 8:15 am, john malayter malagr...@gmail.com wrote:
That headstock will attract a lot of attention!

LOL

Thanks man it made my day

JM

On Nov 28, 9:30 pm, mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:

That's a good look. My Gibson MM has the black buttons.
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
-Original Message-
From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:25:58
To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New R.Wood mandos
Also, we talked about using the Elite tuners with the black  
buttons.
Sexy.
TBug
On Nov 28, 1:06 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
wrote:
Okay, here's a link to some pix of the R.Wood two-points...
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/45096...@n04/
TBug
On Nov 27, 4:56 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
wrote:
Here's a link to the electronics...
   http://www.kksound.com/mandolintwininternal.html
Electri-tater
On Nov 27, 10:48 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
wrote:
Here's a link to the first blurb regarding this subject:
   http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=737946#post737946
The whole deal? This new Randy Wood mandolin design will be
modeled
after the Randy Wood two-point design that I played on for a  
few
years
whilst with Hubert Davis. The original has a long scale and one
piece
back and top, snakehead design with rosewood overlay. The new  
ones
will be a faithful reproduction of the old #1, and will  
include a
pickguard and possibly an Allen tailpiece with Randy Wood's
signature.
The only significant difference will be that it will have a KK
pickup
system installed which will make the instrument acoustic/
electric.
The
pickups are glued to the underside of the top and are two brass
discs/
diaphragms with wires attached. The only sign of the pickup  
is the
endpin jack. I tried out two prototypes in Randy's shop last
weekend
and the pickups are quite sensitive and sound surprisingly
like...you
got it...a mandolin. This system allows for playing the  
mandolin
and
using the natural dynamics of the box.
The two prototypes have compound radiused fingerboards, I  
believe
beginning at a 12 radius and ending with 18 which seems a lot
more
flat at the bridge, but still I'm not used to that feel, so  
I've
asked
for a flat board. I believe Randy has used a very thin  
lacquer for
the
finish.
The two prototypes are for sale at $5K, one a pumpkin top and  
the
other sunburst. The sunburst neck is larger than the pumpkin.
Randy
says that each is offered with a money-back, no-questions-
asked
guarantee. I will be putting pics up of the two before long.  
For
all
you folks who are in need of one of these, keep your eyes  
peeled.
I am looking forward to getting ahold of one of the finished
models
and trying it out. It will sure make my life easier in the  
coming
months, what with the EC sessions and tour. I think Randy said
that we
will be looking at a $6K pricetag, so that is well within the
realm of
possibility for folks wanting a top-notch  acoustic/electric.
Taterbug
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Re: New R.Wood mandos

2009-12-02 Thread mistertaterbug
Nothing else to do? Have you forgotten how many potato chips there are
in the world?
Taterbug

On Dec 1, 11:12 pm, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well you ain't got much else to do!

 On Dec 1, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Fred wrote:

  You're dead wrong there.  What with the time dilation effect of the  
  THC
  you ought to have all the time in the world to practice...just not  
  well.

  Robin Gravina wrote:
  Its hard to be a real pothead and have time to practice!
  Just theorising.

  2009/12/1, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
  No problem, John. Glad to see you're so easy to please. Nah, it  
  ain't
  a pot leaf. I asked him to take it off because lord knows if I was
  flashing that headstock around sooner or later I'd be invited to
  partake of the evil weed and I wouldn't be able to hold up my end. I
  tried for years to be a bonafide pothead and I just couldn't get the
  hang of it. So, on to other things like overpriced beer and quarter-
  cask Laphroaig. Whe!

  Toasted Tater

  On Nov 29, 8:15 am, john malayter malagr...@gmail.com wrote:
  That headstock will attract a lot of attention!

  LOL

  Thanks man it made my day

  JM

  On Nov 28, 9:30 pm, mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:

  That's a good look. My Gibson MM has the black buttons.
  Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
  -Original Message-
  From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
  Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:25:58
  To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: New R.Wood mandos
  Also, we talked about using the Elite tuners with the black  
  buttons.
  Sexy.
  TBug
  On Nov 28, 1:06 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
  wrote:
  Okay, here's a link to some pix of the R.Wood two-points...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45096...@n04/
  TBug
  On Nov 27, 4:56 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
  wrote:
  Here's a link to the electronics...
 http://www.kksound.com/mandolintwininternal.html
  Electri-tater
  On Nov 27, 10:48 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
  wrote:
  Here's a link to the first blurb regarding this subject:
 http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=737946#post737946
  The whole deal? This new Randy Wood mandolin design will be
  modeled
  after the Randy Wood two-point design that I played on for a  
  few
  years
  whilst with Hubert Davis. The original has a long scale and one
  piece
  back and top, snakehead design with rosewood overlay. The new  
  ones
  will be a faithful reproduction of the old #1, and will  
  include a
  pickguard and possibly an Allen tailpiece with Randy Wood's
  signature.
  The only significant difference will be that it will have a KK
  pickup
  system installed which will make the instrument acoustic/
  electric.
  The
  pickups are glued to the underside of the top and are two brass
  discs/
  diaphragms with wires attached. The only sign of the pickup  
  is the
  endpin jack. I tried out two prototypes in Randy's shop last
  weekend
  and the pickups are quite sensitive and sound surprisingly
  like...you
  got it...a mandolin. This system allows for playing the  
  mandolin
  and
  using the natural dynamics of the box.
  The two prototypes have compound radiused fingerboards, I  
  believe
  beginning at a 12 radius and ending with 18 which seems a lot
  more
  flat at the bridge, but still I'm not used to that feel, so  
  I've
  asked
  for a flat board. I believe Randy has used a very thin  
  lacquer for
  the
  finish.
  The two prototypes are for sale at $5K, one a pumpkin top and  
  the
  other sunburst. The sunburst neck is larger than the pumpkin.
  Randy
  says that each is offered with a money-back, no-questions-
  asked
  guarantee. I will be putting pics up of the two before long.  
  For
  all
  you folks who are in need of one of these, keep your eyes  
  peeled.
  I am looking forward to getting ahold of one of the finished
  models
  and trying it out. It will sure make my life easier in the  
  coming
  months, what with the EC sessions and tour. I think Randy said
  that we
  will be looking at a $6K pricetag, so that is well within the
  realm of
  possibility for folks wanting a top-notch  acoustic/electric.
  Taterbug
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Re: New R.Wood mandos

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Hoffmann
Believe me Tate, I searched the whole world over, I slept out in the  
clover and I still can't find that perfect chip!

But seriously that is a nice mandolin - one day I'll be in the market  
for a tool like that!



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Re: hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Hoffmann
I really enjoy hearing myself and I try to carry around a cassette  
recorder at festivals and parties.  It is painful to hear those things  
that you wish never existed, but it is also a good way to catch them  
and learn from them, i.e. ignore the temptation next time.  I also  
sometimes finding myself listening repeatedly to something that i was  
involved in which always makes the soul feel good.

What is really nice is to hear that NOBODY likes the way their own  
voice sounds speaking.   If we recognize that maybe some of the  
restricting feelings that come when we think about our own playing are  
universal and even the greats have to fight them maybe we can learn to  
be confident!

Hoff - not the one who was just put in a psych ward!

On Dec 2, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Steve Cantrell wrote:

 I have recently started doing this as often as possible and it is  
 pretty revealing. I've had the opportunity to both wince and pat  
 myself on the back, so I recommend it for anyone who is intent on  
 learning to improvise in this style. My .1 cents worth.

 From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 2:55:33 PM
 Subject: Re: hearing yourself

 Chef,

 Yes, you will eventually get used to hearing your own voice/mando.
 That's not to say you'll be okay with it... just used to it :) I would
 (and do) opine that one absolutely must listen to oneself play and
 sing regularly in order to improve. Doing so is quite the ear opener
 to be sure and is oftentimes painful, yes... I record all of my shows
 and as the saying goes, the truth hurts... I'm still waiting for the
 set me free part

 I can think of a few folks whom I wish I could FORCE to listen to
 themselves play ;)

 Brian


 On Dec 2, 10:10 am, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey all,
  I recorded a jam from the other day.  I have recorded myself with
  other in the past but have never gotten used to hearing my self, the
  mandolin I am used to, but me, no.
 
  There are times that in the heat of the moment I feel there are some
  great harmonies but when I listen back I hear inadequacies(sp?).
  Maybe it's just a more careful listen, looking for errors or how to
  improve for next time.  Whether or not I did my job properly vocally
  rarely does it sound like me.
 
  So here goes a more direct approach Do you ever get used to
  hearing your own voice on recordings?
 
  Adam

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