NS Charleston #1-65%.mp3 (taterbugmando@googlegroups.com)

2011-01-28 Thread dasspunk

I've shared a document with you:

NS Charleston #1-65%.mp3
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B8KrIvg_Omq9MzI4ZGI4MjAtNDJlZS00YTM0LWJjMTgtN2NlZjU3YmQ4NmEwhl=en

It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this  
document, just click the link above.


I posted Mike's slowed down version of Charleston #1 for your listening  
pleasure...


For educational porpoises, of course :)

Fishy fish...
B

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2011-01-13 Thread dasspunk

I've shared a document with you:

TaterbugMandoGroup
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B8KrIvg_Omq9YjUwNjQ5YjAtYTIyNC00NjM3LTliMjItYjhlNjU0ZTk3MjU0hl=en

It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this  
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This is a test to see if I can share a google doc folder with the  
TaterbugMando Group... this is only a test... please no panicking or  
wagering.


Brian

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-17 Thread Dasspunk
Hat = ring...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeaLzXbmiYc

Brian

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Re: Tater on Prairie Home Companion

2010-11-16 Thread Dasspunk
Here's the audio... http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2010/11/13/

B


On Nov 13, 7:35 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone catch NBB with our favorite Tater on PHC? I was tuned in
 driving home from the weekend supply run to Gallup NM and caught some
 fabulous music, including that acapella gospel blues. Tater put some
 feeling into the lead singing on that one. Yessir.

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Re: Tater on Prairie Home Companion

2010-11-16 Thread Dasspunk
And Sir Bibs was holding out on me... I had to learn the extra part on
Fiddler's Pastime from Mr. Tom Schaefer... *sniff*.

B


On Nov 16, 9:31 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's the audio...http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2010/11/13/

 B

 On Nov 13, 7:35 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:







  Anyone catch NBB with our favorite Tater on PHC? I was tuned in
  driving home from the weekend supply run to Gallup NM and caught some
  fabulous music, including that acapella gospel blues. Tater put some
  feeling into the lead singing on that one. Yessir.

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  mandocellohttp://www.HillbillyChamberMusic.com

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Re: heart-piercing music

2010-10-08 Thread Dasspunk
I heart Red.

On Oct 8, 8:18 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Someone just sent me Red Allen's Seven Year Blues, and in my
 enthusiasm I'm stepping out from the lurker ranks to encourage you all
 to check it out. Totally beautiful. Great mandolin, stellar singing,
 really it has it all. Kind of cleans the palate, makes you remember
 why you do this. best, val

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Re: a new take on Squirrel Hunters

2010-10-03 Thread Dasspunk
I know I should shut up and let folks like what they want but this
particular tune is near and dear to my heart and this rendition stabs
at my soul. Maybe it's because I just returned from a lovely week in
Nashville but saw WAY too many folks in tight printed shirts and
pressed jeans, musically masturbating on each other. Either way, I
don't mean disrespect to anyone's musical taste but rather, I just
want to express an opposing view.

Squirrel Hunters is an old-time tune that has creeped into the
Bluegrass subconscious... and I'm grateful for it... so much so I
named my band after it. I see this tune as an opportunity for ensemble
play and most definitely not as a springboard for musical coitus. To
see it straightened out with a Bush-style chop in a circle jerk is,
IMO, an opportunity missed.

B

On Oct 2, 10:41 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 from some young guns...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDNcXxXJLk

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Re: Whoa Nellie

2010-09-24 Thread Dasspunk
Like.


On Sep 23, 7:11 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay. Here's what happens when a person stays open-minded and follows
 wherever the road leads...

 This year so far, I've had more work than I've had in a long time. The
 webcam lesson schedule fluctuates depending on the economy, babies
 being born, new marriages, new divorces, new jobs, lost jobs, families
 moving, illness, lost interest, etc. Sort of my own private
 abbreviated view of the 'big picture' we all deal with. But so far the
 last few months there's been at least a dozen new folks coming on and
 a number of old friends threatening to come back on board in a month
 or so.

 There's been a number of things on my plate this year, some old, some
 new.

 Still working with the NBB, though sparsely booked. A great band to
 work with and a smart bunch of guys. I always enjoy our gigs and being
 around those guys. The duet stuff with Joe Newberry and David Grier is
 a lot different from each other, but both fill a gap that I'd miss if
 I didn't have them. Plus, it's good to have the time to hang out with
 one's friends and I'm fortunate to count both of them as such. The
 Elvis Costello tour was a whirlwind and a hoot and an experience that
 I'll not forget. I had three months to get ready for the initial blast
 last year and I worked my ass off to memorize 40+ songs and it paid
 off. I am way better now at writing charts (partially in part to
 assistance from Matt Combs and Jeff Taylor's help and endurance of my
 many dumbass questions) and playing chord changes that aren't found in
 country stringband styles of music. Plus, I had to buy electric gear;
 amp, pedal board, pickups, a Randy Wood acoustic/electric mando, etc.
 and start figuring out what that's all about. It's like learning
 another language to me. But as Jerry Douglas says, There's money
 there. Enough said, Flux. Count me in.

 The year's count on workshops/seminars has been about half a dozen,
 most of which were week-long endeavors. This year's Monroe Mando Camp
 went over great. So improvements being made. Looks like next year is
 starting to shape up some for more camps and a better Monroe camp
 expected. Planning on it, at least.

 Now, more TBone work. On my doorstep appears less than one week ago 3
 CD's  of material to chart and learn. Plus, two files with 'greatest
 hits' material...you know, stuff we've all heard on the radio since
 high school. Heavily-orchestrated material. Now, here's the band
 situation for this hillbilly mandolin player: two drummers, two
 electric guitar players, one bass player, background singers, a horn
 section, and a mandolin player. Lord knows what else. Rehearsals for
 the material start Oct. 5 and last for two weeks. Then, about half a
 dozen concerts, some TV, etc. The lineup for the show is: Elton John,
 Leon Russell, Elvis Costello, John Mellencamp, Gregg Allman, Jeff
 Bridges, The Secret Sisters, Ralph Stanley, Karen Elson, Mark Ribo,
 Neko Case, Punch Brothers. Knowing what you know about me, figure
 where Bill Monroe's mandolin style figures into this mix. Or better
 yet, figure in where a derivative of Bill Monroe's mandolin style
 figures into this mix. Also take into consideration that I'm treading
 water fast as I can with just my eyeballs above water.

 Next year looks promising too. More duet work with Joe Newberry and
 Grier already on the books, solo work in Australia for about two
 months thanks to Paul Duff and associates. Will get to play with
 Bluegrass Parkway there and make a visit to the Gilchrist mansion on
 Lake Gnotuk. Also will get to play with two more of my oldtime heros
 down under, Bruce Molsky, Rafe Stefanini. Some NBB work booked for
 2011 and some work with Charlie Cushman and Dave Peterson playing some
 straight-forward bluegrass. Looking at probably getting some Hartford
 String Band stuff on the books. Also, it looks like there's probably a
 TBone production coming too. We'll see.

 Sure, it seems rosey and all that, and I'm glad, grateful to have it
 all. Still, with all this going on, it's hard to keep the car running,
 the mortgage paid, the groceries bought and always a chore to keep the
 middle-aged spread from spreading. But it could be a whole lot more
 uncomfortable. And maybe one of these days I won't be living from
 paycheck to paycheck.

 Keeping my mind open and doing the next thing that comes down the
 road...

 Tbug

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Re: Monroe Mando Camp Schedule 2010

2010-08-12 Thread Dasspunk
Mr. Bibs and I stayed in the Sleep Inn last year and it was fine. I
remember my room had a better corn view than his!

Brian

On Aug 10, 7:21 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark,
 I reckon you can stay at one of the fine lodging establishments in
 OwensboroG. Lots of stuff around Exit #4 I believe it is. It's the
 main (i.e. only) exit with a substantial offering. The rest of us
 have been put up at the Sleep Inn, complete with cornfield last year.
 I'm not sure. You should probably holler at the Museum staff for
 particulars. I'm just the mandolin guy :-) .

 Tbugger

 On Aug 10, 1:43 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:



  Speaking of camp.  If we come in on Thursday, is there lodging available?
  What's the lodging like for camp nights?

  Mark

  On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:27 PM, mistertaterbug 
  taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

   Howdy folks,
   The schedule for the Monroe Mandolin Camp 2010 is posted on the IBMM's
   website. Go check it out! The camp is expanded this year to include
   one more class per hour, plus we have luthiers Will Kimble and Paul
   Duff teaching a number of classes on how to build/stain/finish
   mandolins, plus we have scheduled a class on the history of Gibson
   mandolins which includes David Harvey, who is teaching the entire
   weekend as well. Hall of Famer Bobby Osborne returns to the camp, as
   does Skip Gorman, Richie Brown, and myself. This year's Monroe
   Mandolin Camp is looking better than ever, so sign up before slots run
   out. If you know anyone that might be interested in the camp, be sure
   and give them a holler.

   See you in Owensboro!
   Taterbug

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Re: Monroe Mando Camp Schedule 2010

2010-08-09 Thread Dasspunk
Unfortunately, not all mail apps mark quoted text correctly, thus
google's automation thinks it's part of the reply. So in these cases,
it's up to the person sending to self-prune the quoted text like I did
below...

Google is smart; not perfect.

Brian



On Aug 8, 9:04 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Brian,
 How can we cut out these long run-on messages that include everything
 that's been said previously? Gotta be something...
 Tbug


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Re: Monroe Mando Camp Schedule 2010

2010-08-03 Thread Dasspunk
Link police: http://www.bluegrass-museum.org/general/mandoCamps.php

B

On Aug 2, 8:27 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy folks,
 The schedule for the Monroe Mandolin Camp 2010 is posted on the IBMM's
 website. Go check it out! The camp is expanded this year to include
 one more class per hour, plus we have luthiers Will Kimble and Paul
 Duff teaching a number of classes on how to build/stain/finish
 mandolins, plus we have scheduled a class on the history of Gibson
 mandolins which includes David Harvey, who is teaching the entire
 weekend as well. Hall of Famer Bobby Osborne returns to the camp, as
 does Skip Gorman, Richie Brown, and myself. This year's Monroe
 Mandolin Camp is looking better than ever, so sign up before slots run
 out. If you know anyone that might be interested in the camp, be sure
 and give them a holler.

 See you in Owensboro!
 Taterbug

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Re: All about Mrs Haley

2010-06-21 Thread Dasspunk
I have both double CD sets (Forked Deer and Grey Eagle) and have
studied on 'em. I love playing duets with a fiddler--and do so often--
so these records are a road map to that destination. Like Mike
mentions, Ela does seem to be playing the melody with her right hand
which makes good sense. When playing with just a fiddle player, I feel
free to steal off any other typical instrument's role. I like to mimic
a claw hammer banjo with a kind of shifting chord melody, or steal off
guitar runs... double the melody, or whatever; but Ela's style is
definitely in there too.

Sign me up for trios too. Myself, my fiddler Paul and Bob Black sat
down one night and played as a trio for about 4 hours straight. With
no guitar player to hold us back, them were some lively tunes! Bob has
great rhythm sensibilities himself and it was a joy to play off each
other.

I also find it interesting that--for whatever reason--my love of the
duet seems to be shared with a number of folks on this list... it's
nice to know I'm not alone!

Brian


On Jun 18, 8:28 am, Mark Halpin tomas...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Some of my favorite Tater ventures have to be on 'The Speed of the Old
 Long Bow' and t'other John Hartford old-time-fiddler-tribute albums...
 i dont dance much but i knows they do make for fine jogging musics.

 From one of the old Co-mando interviews Mr. Tate tells that John
 Hartford was looking for something along the lines of what Ela Haley
 was doing on mandolin. Hers how its put in the interview

 'Haley's wife Ela played taterbug (or roundback for you yanks)
 mandolin on the recordings. She played simple chords with a heavy-
 handed rhythm and that's what John said he really wanted me to do. I
 thought it was a very primitive way to play mandolin until I started
 to notice Ela seemed to be playing the melody line, but with chords.
 In other words, her right hand played the melody, her left played
 chords. It's sort of the same thing tap dancers do I guess.'

 Now, given that those Ed Haley recordings seem to be both rare and
 pricey i have'nt much of chance to hear what exactly is going on with
 the original recordings, i'm actually just going through the some mp3
 samples at the moment and i'm beginning to hear the sound i associate
 from the Hartford albums.

 Now i'm wondering if anyone here, not just Mr Taterbug though it'd be
 interesting to hear his views, have paid much attention to Ela Haley's
 playing or have tried to adapt it into their own playing?

 If so, what attracts you to that style of playing, any observations
 about it,  in particular i'd wonder how do you think it sits with the
 Monroe style?

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Re: My approach to playing the mandolin was completely wrong!!!

2010-05-20 Thread Dasspunk
Spoken like a true fiddle player :)

But I disagree. While ignoring the chords may fly for fiddle, I don't
believe it does for mando; old-time, Bluegrass, whatever. Knowing the
chords points you to the melody and helps support the tune/other
players while your ear picks up the tune and teaches it to your
fingers.

B

On May 20, 10:30 am, solofiddle solofid...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Well, maybe that will work for Bluegrass, I don't know. With Old-
 Time, I would never place chords over melody in value. I learn most
 new tunes at jams, and the tune may end before you ever get all the
 chords. Better, I think, to IMMEDIATELY try to grab as much of the
 melody as possible, filling in gaps with each new pass of the tune. At
 least that way you might have an actual tune to take home instead of a
 bunch of chords. Ideally, I suppose it would be best to simply listen
 to the tune a few times, then work on chords if that is important to
 you, and then the melody, but there usually is not that luxury of time
 in jams. Also, I often don't care whatsoever what the chords are,
 unless I'm playing guitar or bass; most of the tunes I try to grab
 from jams are so danged crooked you'll be lucky to get the melody
 right. But that is always the goal - to get enough to be able to join
 in and have fun with the tune before it ends.

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Re: More listening suggestion requests...

2010-05-18 Thread Dasspunk
Link police!

Mac and Bob: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6RmZPc9Xpo (anyone got
links to recordings?)

Not sure who the Callahans are...

B



On May 18, 9:53 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nobody has mentioned Mac and Bob yet. They were the first to record
 the guitar/mando combo way back in the early 20's. If it weren't for
 them, there probably wouldn't have been Blue Sky Boys, Monroe
 Brothers, etc. Another great source for string band duets is the
 Callahan Brothers. Some outstanding singing and mando playing there.
 Check out their version of Sweet Thing. It is reported that Monroe
 got some his earliest arrangements from the Callahans. It is also
 evident that he got some from Mac and Bob.

 Taterboy

 On May 16, 2:44 pm, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:





  Amen Don they sure do!

  On May 15, 11:31 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

   Ginnie Hawker and Tracy Swartz do some real good music.

   On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:55 PM, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll throw Growling Old Men into the mix.  It's Ben Winship on Mandolin 
and
John Lowell on guitar.  Not bluegrass nor Oldtime but might be worth
checking out.

Also, Johnny Staats and Robert Shafer did a CD called Homecoming 
favorites
that's filled w/ gospel tunes.

Jason

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:49 PM, M. Marmot tomas...@yahoo.com wrote:

I have to say, that, i have also found myself gravitating to duo-trio
musical arrangements... more space for the instruments to sound but
also the beauty, challenge, and interaction of group work is on
readily display.

I'd also reccomend Mr. Norman Blake, especially his album 'Meeting on
Southern Soil' with Mr. Peter Ostroushko, thats a fine album that has
consistently been played here for years now. A more recent discovery
for me was the music of Jody Stecher and Kate Brislin, their albums
are stunning. Also, i'd reccomend some of Yank Rachell's earlier
recordings.

On May 13, 3:12 pm, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Hey all,
 I hope eveyone is staying safe and relatively dry/oil-free wherever 
 you
 might happen to be. Just a question

 I have found myself increasingly interested in duo/trio stringband
 music. It seems like the more I do it the simpler my own playing 
 becomes out
 of necessity. You don't have that dirge of fiddle/banjo/bass/guitar 
 to cover
 the flaws...of which there are unfortunately many. So I have been 
 doing a
 ton of listening in that vein--Stomp, live recordings of Mike and 
 David,
 The Foghorn Duo (Kaleb Clauder is an excellent mandolin picker), the 
 Kitchen
 Tapes, Skip Gorman and Richard Starkey...you get the idea. I am 
 hoping that
 folks might be able to throw out some similar suggestions for me.

 I also saw where Mr. Long will be doing a duo tour in July, so maybe
 someone can post some audio/video? David, I have relied heavily on a 
 bootleg
 recording of you and KC Groves. You pick some familiar tunes and it 
 is
 almost a Monroe double-stop seminar. Great picking.

 Anyway, thanks for any suggestions you folks might have. Amazon is 
 just
 dying for me to spend some money over there.
 Thanks,
 Steve

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   mandocellohttp://www.HillbillyChamberMusic.com

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Re: More listening suggestion requests...

2010-05-18 Thread Dasspunk
Thanks Fred, should have know Countysales would have it. Wish their
stuff would show up in searches more often...

B


On May 18, 10:35 am, Fred Keller fkel...@scicable.net wrote:
 On 5/18/10 10:32 AM, Fred Keller wrote: On 5/18/10 10:26 AM, Dasspunk wrote:
  Link police!

  Mac and Bob:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6RmZPc9Xpo(anyone got
  links to recordings?)

  Not sure who the Callahans are...

  B
 http://www.countysales.com/php-bin/ecomm4/products.php?category_id=p...

 Search for callahan at the same site for a recording.

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Re: Grisman/Rowan 1997

2010-04-07 Thread Dasspunk
I was asked to provide tech support on this one so here's the link for
the .wma file and setlist html...

http://ia311304.us.archive.org/1/items/DaveGrisman_Peter_Rowan1997-12-20/

I love SugarMegs but I wish they'd stop using wma files... icky icky
patang!

Brian



On Apr 7, 8:26 am, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Just wanted to pass along this show that's out on SugarMegs in the
 event anyone might have missed it. It is Rowan and Grisman from 1997,
 just doing some standards on mandolin and guitar. I have become a big
 fan of string duets and really like the minimal approach. The quality
 of the recording is excellent and Grisman seems to have his bluegrass
 shoes on for this one. The official tag is:
 DaveGrisman_Peter_Rowan1997-12-20

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Re: Monroe Camp 2010

2010-03-14 Thread Dasspunk
Having David McLaughlin on staff for the camp is awesome... for many
reasons!

B


On Feb 26, 9:54 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy howdy howdy. The annual Bill Monroe Mandolin Camp is coming up
 in September. We're in the planning stages right now, recruiting,
 working on the teacher roster, curriculum, events, etc. I think this
 year we'll not dictate so much what is taught, but ask for electives
 from the teachers. Still, I'm curious what comes to mind as valid
 subject matter at a Monroe camp. Of course, there's tunes, how to play
 tunes and songs, hand usage, some Monroe theory, historic landmark
 solos, rhythm, tremolo, downstrokes, so on and so forth. What else?
 Seems to me that Bil's singing style is a valid topic as well. Plus,
 the overall band sound, the sho' nuff' bluegrass band sound.
 Historically speaking, of course. The old sound. What made it what it
 was? I suppose a course in bus mechanics would be useful too, but that
 would take more than one weekend. Anyway, I'd like to hear some
 thoughts from you buggers whether you've gone to the camp or not.

 ...and I'm a'thankin' yah...
 taterbug

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Re: Crickets.......

2010-03-10 Thread Dasspunk
Mark me down as a big fan of the LA way... I never did warm to the
Nashville sound. Clams are delicious!

B



On Mar 10, 8:41 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robin,
 The standard Nashville method is to lay down tracks and keep
 layering until the thing is done. Even with a band of people that play
 together, most of the time there's isolation so that if there are
 mistakes they can be fixed without bleed over from other instruments.
 I recently was privy to going about it the LA way, the old school
 style, which is cut the tracks live with all musicians, no isolation
 and take the track that has the best feel, clams and all.

 Perfection is not necessarily the point of making art...call me crazy.
 TBug

 On Mar 9, 9:36 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:



  Ok.
  Got practice tonight with my little group Los Cold Hearts - we are writing
  away and getting some songs ready with a view to recording, but how do you
  all record?

  When I did it before, with a rock band, it was a nightmarish process of
  doing it semi-live, then redoing everything until all track by track untill
  all my ability to tell whether it was good or not had vanished. Now I wonder
  if trying to do everything live would be equally nightmarish: doing take
  after take until you get energy and a version where nobody screws up...

  What do you all think? Oh, and do you do acoustic music in Dobly?

  On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
   I also noticed the tumbleweed, but I assumed it was just for ambiance.

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   *Subject:* Crickets...

   It is very quiet on the discussion front. Nothing left to discuss,
   apparently. Hello? Is anybody out there? Check, one...two...is this
   thing on?test...test...calling Rangoon...

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Don Stiernberg Trio

2010-02-14 Thread Dasspunk
Don Stiernberg came to town last night with his trio: Jim Cox (bass)
and Andy Brown (guitar). They were absolutely killing! I'd not heard
Andy Brown before... just an astonishingly beautiful player. Them boys
is SERIOUS.

Best jazz I've heard in a coon's age...

Brian

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Re: Tenor banjo strings on Mandolins

2010-02-14 Thread Dasspunk
Amen brother...

B

On Feb 13, 4:04 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yessir, that's why we take them OFF after tuning. It's a tuner, not a
 fashion accessory.
 TBoy

 On Feb 11, 10:43 pm, Don Christy mandolin...@gmail.com wrote:



  You know, those little clip on tuners will rattle and buzz sometimes too.

  On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:44 AM, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:
   Of course, nothing's more aggravating than a piece of corn stuck
   between your teeth...

   On Feb 11, 9:27 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
Val,
Seriously, that could be something as simple as a bad winding on a
string or some fuzz or dirt in your nut/saddle grooves. Could be that
the nut/saddle is binding or pinching the string, could be something
vibrating like a loose tuner button or screw, your truss rod cover,
something vibrating in your tailpiece or pickguard, maybe a groove in
your frets or even a loose fret. Might be time for a fret job, Val. It
might be that the truss rod is vibrating or the nut on the end if
there's no tension on it. I knew a fellow who filled the truss rod
cavity of his guitar with expandable foam once to get rid of the
noise. Eeeek...

I watched three of Gruhn's repairmen all laying hands at the same time
on one of my mandolins years ago trying to find the source of a
buzz. It looked a lot like a game of Twister and no progress was
made. I notice I get noises on #536 when I use steel strings even now.
I just deal with it because I like the sound of steel now and then.

What with all these little aggravations, seems like we'd just pile all
these mandolins up and start a nice fire...
Tburn

On Feb 11, 9:12 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Val--yeah, try out different sets 'cuz I was really surprised at
 how that MK opened up...I actually apologized to it one afternoon,
 outloud, in public. My bass player thought I was crazy. I bought the
 Dean Markelys strictly because I'd never tried them before, so try
 other brands out too, if possible. Of course in India your options
 might be limited, but there's always juststings.com  they have 19
 brands to choose from!

 Maybe somebody else is understanding it differently, but when I think
 buzzy I think the string is catching on something, either a fret or
 the fingerboard or something else (don't know what, tho). I know that
 for myself I press pretty hard so if my action is too low I can put a
 pair out of tune and get a buzzy sound just 'cuz the downward pressure
 is so much (think violin style vibrato). So without seeing and playing
 your instrument, I'm guessing you got an issue with your action, the
 string slot on your bridge or the slot on your nut, not your strings
 per se. Especially if the problem doesn't happen when you play open,
 that suggests to me that it's a setup issue (assuming you are fretting
 the note even half-way decently--in my opinion, buzzing can only be
 blamed 100% on operator error if the operator is a total beginner, in
 which case it's not blame, it's learning curve).

 One thing I've done in the past when I've gotten a weird buzz I can't
 explain and I can't get it to the shop right away is to put a piece of
 paper or thin cardboard in the nut or bridge slot. I've used notebook
 paper, the board they make cereal boxes out of and a paper match,
 depending on how high I'm trying to go. I first try this at the nut
 and then at the bridge. It's sort of a pain, because you need to
 completely loosen the string or strings, put your card in, then
 retighten and check it out. If it doesn't help then you gotta do it
 again with a thicker piece of something (too thick will make the
 string noticeably higher than the rest of your strings in which case
 you have to decide which is the lesser of two evils). This should
 raise the string enough that it's not buzzing on the frets.

 It looks funny and you're gonna have to explain yourself to everyone
 who sees your instrument, but in my experience, it works! Once four
 years ago I had a match in for two weeks and when it finally broke
 there was no more buzz. How come? I don't know and I don't care. So I
 hope this works for you, Val.

 Anyone else think of something different?

 erik

 On Feb 11, 1:09 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks so much, Erik. I'll try all these solutions (assuming I can
  find the Markely strings) and report what I find. It is the balance
  between tension and sound, I think. I really need to find the 
  optimal
  string choice for this mandolin. It has the potential to be very
   sweet
  yet with a good projection.
  As to my other problem: Do you (or anyone) have any clue about why
  getting the pairs in tune on a particular kind of 

Re: Tenor banjo strings on Mandolins

2010-02-10 Thread Dasspunk
Well I suppose it's good that you have extra strings David--12s or
otherwise--as you broke the 74s I brought you in less than a set. What
DO you do to that poor mando that makes it act out like that?

Whatever it is, keep doing it.

B


On Feb 3, 1:48 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote:
 This might be of interest to some.

 I don't know about some of you, but I frequently pick up my mandolin and am
 immediately struck with the slightest sense of annoy regarding tension and
 thickness of the E strings.  Then it hit me:  Why not a .012 gauge?  So I
 found some tenor banjo strings (.012) with loop ends and  BINGO!  Problem
 solved.  Maybe the luthiers on here could weigh in but they don't seem to be
 too heavy.  I'm using them with the Exp-J74s.

 My next experiment is the J-74's on the G and D's, 75's on the A's, and .012
 tenors on the E's.  Has anyone else ever tried this?

 Reporting live,
 Miles

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Re: Thought this might be of interest

2010-02-03 Thread Dasspunk
Perhaps you mean this: http://www.folkstreams.net/film,191

B

On Feb 2, 8:38 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 The video of the Irish players is good too, if you like that sorta
 thing...

 Tater O'Bug

 On Feb 2, 11:14 am, Pat Murphree  phreem...@comcast.net wrote:



  Finally got a chance to watch the Bill Monroe film last night. A couple 
  things struck me:
  -The economy of motion in Monroe's right and left hands. He barely raises 
  his fingers above the fretboard and the pick only travels as far as it 
  needs to.
  - He rarely goes up the neck. Usually just to hit a higher note on the E 
  string, not to show off.
  - When he hits extra open strings or double stops on a melody it sounds 
  right. When I do it, it sounds like a mistake!

  I'm sure there's more to learn from that film. I need to watch it again 
  several times.

  Murph

  - Original Message -
  From: Tud Jones tudjo...@gmail.com
  To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:46:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
  Subject: Thought this might be of interest

 http://www.folkstreams.net/film,210
  Lots of other great stuff up there as well if you browse around.
  Banjo Spirits:http://www.folkstreams.net/film,183hasDon Stover
  doing a beautiful version of Things in Life.
  Enjoy!

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Re: Forever has come to an end

2010-01-29 Thread Dasspunk
Okay... thanks Grier.

B


On Jan 28, 4:12 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark,
 You can thank David for Big Indian...(BIB for short; ironic, ain't
 it?). I had clean forgot about it pretty much. Just quit playing it
 altogether. It was his idea to resurrect it. I reckon I should thank
 him too, because I'm still playing it with Grier-san.

 Tbug

 On Jan 28, 10:24 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:



  I finally got to see this last night.  It's episode 399 on the Woodsongs.com
  archive.  Just amazing stuff, Tater.  Really well done.  And I also got a
  big kick out of the Big Indian Blues.  Great stuff.

  Mark

  On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Paul Duff pd...@globaldial.com wrote:
   This is one of the best pieces of songwriting I've heard in a long
   time. TBug, you already know it is one of my favourites; be it as a
   duet or solo. You play it with a lot of hurt, just right for this
   piece.
   Paul

   On Jan 26, 6:07 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
Jonas,
No sir, we didn't record it. It's a good song for sure. I do it as a
solo anymore, but the duet is always welcome. Seems to me it would
work well as a Carter Family style song too.

Tbug

On Jan 25, 3:23 pm, Jonas Mattebo jonas.matt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here's a question for Mike and/or David:
 When you recorded Stomp, did you also record a version of the Millers'
   tune
 Forever Has Come to an End? I know you played it on the Woodsongs
   show
 some time after, and it's a really smashing version of an already 
 great
 tune. It just suits your duet style great! Me and my wife play it all
   the
 time, we did it live last Friday and had comments afterwards about 
 that
   tune
 in particular.

 If you recorded it sometime somewhere, is it available? I would really
   like
 to hear a studio version of it...

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Re: Forever has come to an end

2010-01-28 Thread Dasspunk
Here's a link to the Woodsongs.com archive so you too can have a
listen...

http://www.woodsongs.com/showlist.asp

Or direct mp3 link:
http://128.163.130.14/woodsongs-audio/399hi.mp3

B



On Jan 28, 10:24 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 I finally got to see this last night.  It's episode 399 on the Woodsongs.com
 archive.  Just amazing stuff, Tater.  Really well done.  And I also got a
 big kick out of the Big Indian Blues.  Great stuff.

 Mark



 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Paul Duff pd...@globaldial.com wrote:
  This is one of the best pieces of songwriting I've heard in a long
  time. TBug, you already know it is one of my favourites; be it as a
  duet or solo. You play it with a lot of hurt, just right for this
  piece.
  Paul

  On Jan 26, 6:07 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
   Jonas,
   No sir, we didn't record it. It's a good song for sure. I do it as a
   solo anymore, but the duet is always welcome. Seems to me it would
   work well as a Carter Family style song too.

   Tbug

   On Jan 25, 3:23 pm, Jonas Mattebo jonas.matt...@gmail.com wrote:

Here's a question for Mike and/or David:
When you recorded Stomp, did you also record a version of the Millers'
  tune
Forever Has Come to an End? I know you played it on the Woodsongs
  show
some time after, and it's a really smashing version of an already great
tune. It just suits your duet style great! Me and my wife play it all
  the
time, we did it live last Friday and had comments afterwards about that
  tune
in particular.

If you recorded it sometime somewhere, is it available? I would really
  like
to hear a studio version of it...

/Jonas- Hide quoted text -

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Re: Sarah Jarosz

2010-01-24 Thread Dasspunk
She has very good taste in Bass players...

B

On Jan 20, 12:37 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thought some of you might want to take advantage of this deal.  Just saw it
 on Facebook.  Sarah Jarosz's album Song Up In Her Head is available NOW for
 $1.99, today and tomorrow only!http://bit.ly/5NV0lb
 Mark

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Re: Starting from scratch....sort of.

2010-01-20 Thread Dasspunk
Mr. Compton,

Ignorant ass clowns are an unfortunate part of life and there is
seemingly nothing to be done about them. If only there were some kind
of ointment... Perhaps their one plus side is that  they inevitably
stir self reflection. So to ass clowns everywhere, I guess I'll offer
my thanks, in addition to my foot to your groinal area.

Your playing, music and dedication is an inspiration to me musically
and otherwise. It's a constant reminder of how far one can go and what
it takes to do so. I can't thank you enough for this continuous gift
and am sorry as hell I can not return the favor.

Anyway, Mike, you are my friend and I support you and this manifesto.
I hope it leads to some self-induced musical inspirado. That said, I'm
also with David and wouldn't mind seeing you give yourself a break
from time to time :)

Attempting to show the love,
Brian

On Jan 19, 7:25 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, I've decided to go back to the drawing board. It's been looming
 on the horizon for some time, bugging me, nagging at me in the back of
 my mind, one of those things that I know needs doing. So here goes...

 While it's true that I've taken some flack of late from uneducated
 n'er-do-wells with snappy comments regarding the slop I play and how
 I'm apparently luckier than Kenny G in my musical success based upon
 my apparent lack of ability to be an actual musician, this is not the
 basis for my conclusion that things need to change. There's a lot of
 things that need changing around here really, and the musical aspect
 is only one of the pieces of the puzzle. I'm getting fed up with
 feeling like the weak link in so many chains, not all of them musical.
 Call it a delayed New Year's Resolution list, if you will.

 As middle age comes and settles in more firmly I find myself wanting
 to play better, to understand more, to feel a connection with what I'm
 doing that's not been there in quite some time. Yes, I've been winging
 it. But then I suppose I've not fooled everybody judging by the latest
 flurry of comments and my own personal feelings of musical unrest. I
 need a feeling of belonging to what I'm doing, I need to feel I'm
 doing it well, that it's a part of me.  So far, no cigar.

 I sat here today and played Black Joke w/Variations as I do every
 couple days(or so...there's part of the problem right there; lack of
 consistency and regularity) and made a greater effort to play the
 notes cleanly and with character. Egad. You'd think I never saw this
 exercise before. I used to play at it every day, every morning first
 thing, out on the porch with the mando and the 'dola to do my ritual,
 my mando-meditation. But now I'm playing it and paying attention to
 detail in a different way. I am reworking my right hand some due to
 feeling some wear and tear over the last 38 years and it's hard, REAL
 hard. I'm working on making it work smoothly and relaxed, but feeling
 strong and sure. I'm watching my pick angle. I'm watching how much
 motion I use to make the strokes, how I cross over strings to get to
 the next, listening to the sound of the notes, the evenness of the
 tremolo(or not, in this case), watching my pick angle, etc. Everything
 I can think of. And I know that the more I work, the more things will
 turn up that need attention.

 Truth is, I spend a lot of time working, but not efficiently. I waste
 30 minutes here, an hour there not focused on anything. Now I don't
 mean to say that putting one's brain out of gear now and again is not
 a good idea, but being on auto-pilot all the time, not filtering what
 goes in and comes out, is not really a good idea. So, the tune books
 are out, the paper is out, the iTunes list is open, lyrics are at easy
 reach. I'm not sure I even know how to accomplish what I want to get
 done. If I sit and ponder it too hard the task will just seem like too
 much of a mountain to climb. Maybe in pieces small enough to chew is
 the way to go, but I feel like now I have to chew all the time to get
 ahead and see real success, real progress. Real progress will instill
 passion for success.

 I find I've got a lot more things I want to get done, and feeling I'm
 playing at the level I think I should be is high on the list. I have
 raised my standards for myself. I have quite a collection of material
 I want to learn and explore. The list grows and I just sit and watch
 it without whittling any of it away. I know myself well enough to know
 that this will all nag me in the back of my mind until I do something
 about it. Here I go...

 mistertaterbug
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Re: Old Timey playing

2010-01-16 Thread Dasspunk
Though they've certainly not cornered the market, I've noticed some of
them MN old-timers are a bit on the crotchety side... but then again
Fred, y'all feel purple is a respectable color for a professional
sports franchise. Which is obviously incorrect :)

Still, I can see their point... at least to a point. And while some
people are just assholes, plain and simple, most are just trying to
honor the style and demand it be shown a little respect. Being a
Monroe player, I can absolutely empathize with this feeling...

My bright orange, f-style Duff doesn't especially help me when joining
unfamiliar circles... but listening and being respectful usually does
the trick. I'm very lucky though... many of the circles I join or
dances I play, include Chirps Smith. You could look a long time and
not find a nicer gent nor as good a fiddler. And it helps that he
started as a mando player... and a damn good one at that.

Brian



On Jan 15, 4:13 pm, Fred Keller fkel...@scicable.net wrote:
 rant mode on; ratcheted up to 11

 This kind of feedback from the so-called keepers of the flame of old
 time makes the gorge fairly well buoyant.  Who bequeathed them the  
 music and who told 'em  it was a fossil, fit only to stick under glass
 in a museum?  Real musicians don't often think this way about music nor
 did those first-gen folks whom they--and we--admire.

 Here's your mantra:

 Screw 'em
 Screw the fiddle mafia that makes six of them vs one of you a good jam
 Screw the lock-step jack-booted thugs who keep careful track of who's
 playing the wrong notes of the wrong version
 Screw the smug know-it-alls who insist on only one kind of old-time
 Play what you want and if they don't like...sc--well, you get the idea

 rant mode off; urge to killsubsiding

   ;^)...but only partially

 On 1/15/10 3:53 PM, Topher Gayle wrote:



  Once I was jamming on my mando at a small old time jam, pretty much
  playing backbeats. And after a couple tunes the fiddling gal sneered,
  how long have you been playing bluegrass? and that was the end of
  that.

  So I was a little bit nervous a couple years later when Brad Leftwich
  asked me to accompany him at a dance, with my mando. I asked him what
  he wanted me to do, and he said, whatever you want, but it would be
  nice to have a rolling strum. I didn't know what he meant, so he said
  something like dum-a-strum-a dum-a-strum-a, a little bit swung, but
  not much. That's kind of a guitar strum for me. I guess he liked it
  because he asked me to accompany him a few more times that week. It
  was really fun!

  I think it's the same as any kind of social music. It's as loose or
  strict as the people involved want. I personally really like things
  loose. But sometimes that's not the scene.

  Topher
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Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-09 Thread Dasspunk
Hey Jonas,

I personally don't find the doorknob description useful. There's not
much turning in the wrist per se. And because I am immature, Mike's
use of the term rubbing out a note makes me giggle (I can't be alone
on this can I?). That being said, it is definitely useful.

I've been thinking about this a bit this morning and thought of
another comparison that might be helpful. Taking from Mike's
description, I can see it being similar to using the eraser on the end
of a pencil. Especially if one hold the pencil like you would a pick
(eg. between first joint of your index and thumb) and then pretend to
erase a small something. And keep your movements kinda tight as if you
were only erasing one character and didn't want to mess up the rest of
the word.

I would think this movement would come natural to most folks born
before computers. Because you're pressing down when erasing, you'll
have better balance; feel the weight of the erasing stroke... probably
feels natural and smooth. With practice, this will feel the same on
the mando. Same purposeful stroke back and forth. The pick barely or
never leaving the string; fluid, even strokes that kinda dance on the
string. When you get it right, each stroke gives your arm a tiny
fraction of a second of rest as it pushes through the string.

On days were your right hand is in the grove, the world seems a better
place :) Sun shines brighter; flowers smell better; peanuts even more
delicious. Them's good days... if you could buy those days we'd all be
broke. Soak 'em up when you can

Anyway, enough of my yakking... I hope this makes at least some sense
to someone besides me. It's a really tough subject to explain in
words...

Brian



On Jan 9, 5:27 am, Jonas Mattebo jonas.matt...@gmail.com wrote:
 'Picking' this up from the interview thread...

 I think I get the notion of 'rubbing out the notes' with the pick as was
 stated in the Mandolin Cafe interview with MC. I also get the pick grip, and
 use it. I have also heard that the hand motion when picking the mandolin
 should be as when turning a doornob (american I presume, the Swedish
 doornobs are a little different - not really changing the hand motion though
 when I think about it).

 Anyway, this is where I'm having troubles. When I'm playing, trying to
 'rubber' the notes out, my pick motion is driven by my underarm, not my
 wrist so much. I find it very difficult to get a controlled pick motion when
 using the wrist - door opening style.

 Can anyone on the list help me here? I think not getting this part of
 picking is a hinder for me when it comes to playing controlled and powerful
 at the same time. Maybe someone can make a video of the right wrist motion,
 or if there are good examples already, point me to them?

 Kind regards,
 Jonas
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Re: Alex playng Old Time

2010-01-05 Thread Dasspunk
Holy crap... that little girl has the stuff big time. I'm a bit
worried about Bluegrass but Old-time looks to be in good hands...

B


On Jan 4, 8:27 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:
 This Alex's sister, Tatiana. She is only 14 and got some chops too. She can 
 sing and play the banjo too. Kids!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPMXgTleSk

 Clyde Clevenger
 Just My Opinion, But It's Right
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Re: Old Daingerfield

2010-01-05 Thread Dasspunk
Agreed.

I usually look the other way when talented kids use a good tune as a
springboard to launch a flurry of self gratifying notes without regard
for their need or appropriateness within the tune. It's an extremely
common phenomenon that I call this --pardon the term-- musical
masturbation. I look the other way because they're kids after all and
it often takes a bit of age to go from being *able* to play really
well, to actually knowing *how* to play.

Unfortunately, I could probably guess who some of their teachers have
been and some, though they've not been kids for 30-40+ years, condone
and practice musical masturbation regularly.

I don't mean to pick on the kids but I would like to see this cycle
discontinued. The truth is I'm selfishly desperate for it to change
because I want to hear some new, truly great music and settling for
circus antics and musical masturbation is robbing me of the chance. I
would challenge these immensely talented kids to dig deeper and really
learn how to play.

Brian




On Jan 3, 6:49 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 No doubt all great players.  But, if I walked into the room while Joliff was
 playing the first tune on this clip, I would not have known it was
 Mississippi Waltz, and I play the tune!  And on Old Daingerfield with Alex,
 again really done well, but why the need to separate the 3rd part?  Because
 you can agree to do it?  It didn't add anything to what is a great tune.  I
 enjoyed a lot of the tune development within the tune, but to me it just got
 disjointed by creating that space.  But, that's just me... :)

 Mark



 On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ

  here is one such clip

   --
  *From:* Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com
  *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM
  *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield

   there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the
  youtube...

   --
  *From:* mandoho...@comcast.net mandoho...@comcast.net
  *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM
  *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield

  Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon.  Jake is a
  Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston.
  He plays in Joy Kills Sorrow with bunch of young musical terrorists, all
  very good, but the language is not
  familiar to me.  I know, I'm old.  Alex is a junior in high school from
  Corvalis, Oregon.  The poor kid doesn't even have a band
  of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished a
  nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band'  I just
  hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school.

   Clyde Clevenger
  Just My Opinion, But It's Right
  Salem, Oregon
  Old Circle http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle

  - Original Message -
  From: Terry Harvey terwaha...@gmail.com
  To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:53:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
  Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield

  We just saw Alex H. (the fiddler) with the David Grisman Quintet @ The
  Freight  Salvage in Beserkely on Dec 26th.
  That kid can bow a fiddle!!  Who's the mando wunderkind?

  On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Burnette bburne...@gmail.com wrote:

  Very impressive.

  Bill in Nashville

    On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:30 AM, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:

   This ain't exactly like Tater or Bill would have played this, but it
  was fun to see tonight.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMMK3QI4VHg

   Clyde Clevenger
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Re: Old Daingerfield

2010-01-05 Thread Dasspunk
Hey Trey,

Maybe it is harsh... it doesn't seem so to me because it's just my own
opinion and worth only that. But I didn't mean to single these folks
out necessarily either... they are fine musicians and there's some
reasonable playing in there. I was really talking in generalities.

Truthfully, my comment was partially fueled by a VERY similar
phenomenon in the basketball world that I was discussing this morning
(bare with me). On my beloved Bulls, we have a forward--we'll call him
Tyrus-- that is, as they say, a freakish athlete. The dude can jump
out of the gym, is 6'9, 235 and has more pure talent than anyone on
the team. He has all the tools to do anything he wants in the game.
Problem is, for every amazing thing he does on the court, he does two
completely stupid things which hurt the team. So the coach benches him
and plays a less talented guy that plays smarter.

Long story slightly longer, I love basketball because if you don't
play right, you sit. Always. It doesn't matter how great an athlete
you are if your team don't win. There's no grey area there... it's as
close to an absolute as I've found.

Unfortunately, this is not the case with music and everything is a
shade of grey. But not in my mind and not in my opinion :) I keep
score and call it like I see it. World beware!

Brian


On Jan 5, 10:48 am, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Seems pretty harsh to suggest these guys don't know how to play just because 
 their music doesn't move you.  I'm not particularly moved by this performance 
 either, other to notice that both of these guys have chops way beyond what I 
 can ever hope for, but I mean hey they may have really gotten to somebody and 
 sparked something that music hasn't ever hit before.

 
 From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 8:34:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield

 Agreed.

 I usually look the other way when talented kids use a good tune as a
 springboard to launch a flurry of self gratifying notes without regard
 for their need or appropriateness within the tune. It's an extremely
 common phenomenon that I call this --pardon the term-- musical
 masturbation. I look the other way because they're kids after all and
 it often takes a bit of age to go from being *able* to play really
 well, to actually knowing *how* to play.

 Unfortunately, I could probably guess who some of their teachers have
 been and some, though they've not been kids for 30-40+ years, condone
 and practice musical masturbation regularly.

 I don't mean to pick on the kids but I would like to see this cycle
 discontinued. The truth is I'm selfishly desperate for it to change
 because I want to hear some new, truly great music and settling for
 circus antics and musical masturbation is robbing me of the chance. I
 would challenge these immensely talented kids to dig deeper and really
 learn how to play.

 Brian

 On Jan 3, 6:49 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:





  No doubt all great players.  But, if I walked into the room while Joliff was
  playing the first tune on this clip, I would not have known it was
  Mississippi Waltz, and I play the tune!  And on Old Daingerfield with Alex,
  again really done well, but why the need to separate the 3rd part?  Because
  you can agree to do it?  It didn't add anything to what is a great tune.  I
  enjoyed a lot of the tune development within the tune, but to me it just got
  disjointed by creating that space.  But, that's just me... :)

  Mark

  On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ

   here is one such clip

    --
   *From:* Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com
   *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM
   *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield

    there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the
   youtube...

    --
   *From:* mandoho...@comcast.net mandoho...@comcast.net
   *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM
   *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield

   Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon.  Jake is 
   a
   Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston.
   He plays in Joy Kills Sorrow with bunch of young musical terrorists, all
   very good, but the language is not
   familiar to me.  I know, I'm old.  Alex is a junior in high school from
   Corvalis, Oregon.  The poor kid doesn't even have a band
   of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished a
   nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band'  I just
   hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school.

    Clyde Clevenger
   Just My Opinion, But It's Right
   Salem, Oregon
   Old Circle http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle

   - Original Message -
   From: Terry Harvey terwaha...@gmail.com

Re: How long to be a decent picker

2009-12-22 Thread Dasspunk
If you live long enough or if you apply enough Jack Daniels, I believe
we all become unconsciously incontinent.

B


On Dec 22, 6:43 pm, bo'weavil mar...@edmedia.com.au wrote:
 Somewhere along the line I was told of this learning pathway:
 1.      Unconsciously incompetent
 2.      Consciously incompetent
 3.      Consciously competent
 4.      Unconsciously competent
 Me I think I’m somewhere in step 2 and 3, for the most part (2) I know
 I haven’t nailed it but sometimes (3) I think yep that’s it and then
 instantly find myself back at step 2.  I have no idea when you get the
 step 4, I suppose you don’t know because it just is

 Bo'Weavil

 On Dec 23, 10:41 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:



  Chris,
  The way I heard it, it takes 7 years to make a fiddler. Owen Saunders
  says it takes at least 4 years to be a bad fiddler. G

  I really don't think that there is a time limit/expectancy on it. I've
  heard that Woody Herman was once told by a fan that it looked like
  playing music was easy for him, to which Herman replied something
  like, You go practice 8 hours a day for the next 10 years and then
  come talk to me about easy. It has a lot to do with what Raymond was
  talking about...obsession, an all-consuming drive to learn how to make
  that sound you've become acquainted with. There was a time that I
  NEVER saw David Grier without a guitar in his lap. There really is no
  end to the journey as long as you're drawing breath. Monroe kept the
  magic for the music until the day he died. And, as Robin mentioned,
  your ears hear things as you go along that you didn't hear before. You
  have to educate yourself as you go, learn little bits and use them,
  learn how they fit together. You have to learn how to listen. I'm
  still hearing new things in the music I've listened to for 30 years.
  I've heard the same thing from many other devotees of the old styles.

  I really think that it would be nearly impossible for working adults
  with family obligations to reach the heights some have simply because
  of the amount of time required by the music. It is my opinion that
  starting early before there are so many obligations is the key.
  Whether we become Monroes or Thiles or Hermans or Bakers or Reinhardts
  or whatever is not the point though. The point is to bath in the sound
  and enjoy it. Just for your own information, you are a lot better
  player now than you were two years ago when we met, so you must be
  doing it right. Keep after it.

  Taterbug

  On Dec 21, 8:41 pm, Raymond Huffmaster raymondhuffmas...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   Evenin;..
   Robin,if you're talking about Bluegrass Music being difficult to play
   right...I fully agree with you . And,you know,I think it's because of
   the
   central structure of the music as Monroe heard it...rhythm and
   timing .
   Without these two components it all goes right to he!!...
   If the rhythm and timing is there supporting the melody and you play
   the
   melody as simple as you can..wonderful...like gravy on a bisquit , no
   need
   for improvement..
   Bluegrass Music is very hard to play..but once you know you're doing
   it right
   It becomes easy as can be...and so satisfying,quite addictive...or it
   was/is to
   me...

   Loafer

   On Dec 21, 2:53 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:

Smart words. The longer I do this, and the more I hear, I get crazy
that  I can't play two notes together that make real sense. Luckily
though, my ear only gets trained a bit better than I can play,
otherwise I'd  get really irritated. I can't get over how difficult it
is to get right.
Fun though

2009/12/20, Raymond Huffmaster raymondhuffmas...@gmail.com:

 Evenin' Chris...
 I don't know where or who Out There is..but I will say
 that , in my opinion ,if you are burning up inside to play good..
 if it's really important to you...you never reach a point of total
 satisfaction . There is always another thing to learn,another
 phrase to use,another great player that you want to play with .

 I always wanted to play good enough to play with my heros...
 reached that point with some of 'em . Yet there are still things
 I hear, a lot from T-Bug , that I want to learn,I want to play with...

 Holding your ownmeans that you need to play better..to
 satisfy your own self...or it does to me...practice,my friend..

 Loafer

 On Dec 20, 1:16 pm, Chris Thomas christopher.s.tho...@cox.net wrote:
 I had the chance to attend the Blue Ridge Music Makers Guild
 Christmas Party (http://www.blueridgemusicmakersguild.com)theother
 night and enjoy some 'ol time music (in the Galax, Floyd, Woodlawn,
 Hillsville, Fries, Independence section of VA).

 One guy was 91 years old  sharp as a tack.  He could play ANYTHING 
 on
 the harmonica and also played his tie on fiddle tunes (it is
 corrugated metal and he has picks for his 

Re: Old Tennesse River

2009-12-16 Thread Dasspunk
Wait... Fiddlin' for Pap? I have Jimmy's Top of the Morning that has
Jesse on it. Digitized it from a cassette. I've not heard nor seen
Fiddlin' for Pap...

You sir are on both Young Opry Fiddler and Pieces of Time. And if you
played Northern White Clouds wrong, then I learned it wrong :) But I
couldn't say for sure either way 'cause the version I have with Bill
on it (Lincolnton Senior Citizens Center, 1992), Bill doesn't take a
lead on it... it's all Jimmy. Either way, I liked the way you did
it... wrong or otherwise and I enjoy playing it myself (as does Paul).

B



On Dec 16, 9:19 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jimmy had three albums; Fiddlin' for Pap, Young Opry Fiddler, and
 Pieces of Time. Grier and I played on one of the earlier ones, or
 maybe both. I forget now. Another good E tune, Northern White Cloud
 is on the second recording, I think. I played it in usual
 fashion...wrong.

 TuberBug

 On Dec 15, 9:35 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:



  Sorry Senor Patata, but I'm currently entertaining a flu... and as you
  might expect, it wore out it's welcome days ago but just won't take a
  hint.

  Old TN River is an excellent tune and as I've mentioned previously,
  the Jimmy Campbell records are must-owns.

  B

  On Dec 15, 8:38 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

   Well, where did it go? Says there's over 3M of it, but I only get a
   snippet and it's gone. Maybe this is a job for Computer Man...take it
   away, Brian.

   TB

   On Dec 14, 11:16 pm, johnhga...@aol.com wrote:

I uploaded Old Tenn River recorded at Nashcamp in 2001.  Jimmy Campbell 
on fiddle, Mike on mando, and Gene Bush on guitar.  This was the front 
port concert one night at the camp.  Its in the file area 
-http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando/files?sort=date

here's a link - hope this works:  

   http://taterbugmando.googlegroups.com/web/ole+tn+river.mp3?gda=9Xl77U...

John Gay
Memphis

-Original Message-
From: cooper4205 wesb4...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2009 4:00 pm
Subject: Re: Old Tennesse River

The album Ol' Tennessee River is on is Pieces of Time. It was his
econd (and last) album. It's well worth getting, if you can find it.
On Dec 14, 3:20 pm, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just heard this one and is going to be the new must learn Terry B
 does a fine job with it on the
 Tube.  I had been unfamiliar with it until last week and am in pursuit
 of the little rascal now.  I mentioned to Tater in an email that the
 Kick off gets my heart rate goin to paraphrase.

 The timing of the tremelo is so cool to me.  The end of the kick is
 almost not in time, almost in time and haunting all at the same time.
 Ha.

 The stops are pretty fun too.  One can really feel a story being
 told.  Not sure if I can post it on the file page been having trouble
 moving it from place to place as a friend emailed it to me and it is
 quirky process, let's leave it there.

 It is on a Jimmy Campbell recording.  I believe he has 2 recordings
 out.

 Tabbs
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Re: Old Tennesse River

2009-12-16 Thread Dasspunk
Well now I'm curious about this... Tunes on Top of the Mornin' are:

01 Top of the Mornin'
02 This  That
03 Turkey in the Straw
04 Jerusalem Ridge
05 Tennessee Hayride
06 Hop Light Ladies
07 Leather Britches
08 First Day in Town
09 Goin' Across the Sea
10 Cryin' Heart Waltz
11 Snowflake Reel
12 Carroll County Blues

Brian


On Dec 16, 11:11 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 The tunes on Young Opry Fiddler are:

 Fiddler's Heyday
 Northern White Cloud
 Smith's Reel
 She's Coming Around
 Chippewa
 Ahead of the Hounds
 Old Mountaineer
 New Five Cents
 Tombstone Junction
 We'll Meet Again Sweetheart

 I ain't found any discography for Fiddling for Pap, but there's some
 dandies on there. I reckon I can look some more...
 Puhtater

 On Dec 16, 9:19 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:



  Jimmy had three albums; Fiddlin' for Pap, Young Opry Fiddler, and
  Pieces of Time. Grier and I played on one of the earlier ones, or
  maybe both. I forget now. Another good E tune, Northern White Cloud
  is on the second recording, I think. I played it in usual
  fashion...wrong.

  TuberBug

  On Dec 15, 9:35 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

   Sorry Senor Patata, but I'm currently entertaining a flu... and as you
   might expect, it wore out it's welcome days ago but just won't take a
   hint.

   Old TN River is an excellent tune and as I've mentioned previously,
   the Jimmy Campbell records are must-owns.

   B

   On Dec 15, 8:38 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, where did it go? Says there's over 3M of it, but I only get a
snippet and it's gone. Maybe this is a job for Computer Man...take it
away, Brian.

TB

On Dec 14, 11:16 pm, johnhga...@aol.com wrote:

 I uploaded Old Tenn River recorded at Nashcamp in 2001.  Jimmy 
 Campbell on fiddle, Mike on mando, and Gene Bush on guitar.  This was 
 the front port concert one night at the camp.  Its in the file area 
 -http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando/files?sort=date

 here's a link - hope this works:  

http://taterbugmando.googlegroups.com/web/ole+tn+river.mp3?gda=9Xl77U...

 John Gay
 Memphis

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 From: cooper4205 wesb4...@gmail.com
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2009 4:00 pm
 Subject: Re: Old Tennesse River

 The album Ol' Tennessee River is on is Pieces of Time. It was his
 econd (and last) album. It's well worth getting, if you can find it.
 On Dec 14, 3:20 pm, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just heard this one and is going to be the new must learn Terry B
  does a fine job with it on the
  Tube.  I had been unfamiliar with it until last week and am in 
 pursuit
  of the little rascal now.  I mentioned to Tater in an email that the
  Kick off gets my heart rate goin to paraphrase.

  The timing of the tremelo is so cool to me.  The end of the kick is
  almost not in time, almost in time and haunting all at the same time.
  Ha.

  The stops are pretty fun too.  One can really feel a story being
  told.  Not sure if I can post it on the file page been having trouble
  moving it from place to place as a friend emailed it to me and it is
  quirky process, let's leave it there.

  It is on a Jimmy Campbell recording.  I believe he has 2 recordings
  out.

  Tabbs
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Re: Hey Tater.....any new projects?

2009-12-11 Thread Dasspunk
I had this same thought last year when we were booking the Sugar Maple
Fest here in MadTown. I talked to Norman's agent about coming up to
Wisconsin to do the fest and had Sir Spuddy in mind to pair him up
with if he came...

His agent wrote me back and said Norman would be happy to do the fest
as soon as we moved it to Georgia.

Good stuff...

B



On Dec 11, 11:46 am, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 The Mike and Norman Blake is at the top of my list, too, and you can get a 
 sort-of sample of that on Ralph Stanley's CD from just after Down From the 
 Mountain.

 I have gone to lengths to see if such a live recording existed, but no dice...

 
 From: sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:35:58 AM
 Subject: Hey Tater.any new projects?

 I was just wondering what's happening in Taterland.  I know you've
 been playing with Elvis and still do the duo with Grier.  But what
 else is going on?  Do you have any recordings coming out soon?  Either
 solo or ones you've played on??

 Also, somebody over on the anti-capo site was asking about dream
 concerts you wish you coulda seen.  Bill Monroe and Hot Rize with
 Sawtelle were two of mine.  But I also added a dream concert/recording
 I'd love to see is our own Puh-tatoe with Norman Blake.  Ever thought
 about doing something like that?

 Shaun

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Re: Cold Winter's Night

2009-12-09 Thread Dasspunk
Nice tune Mikey... I wouldn't worry about trying to make your tunes
fit the Monroe style... just keep studying, listening and writing and
it'll all take care of itself.

Man, what a day. I've Toroed 3 times today and it's supposed to drop
to 3 degrees tonight. I see your show down in MadTown got canceled
last night. 'Twas a good thing.

Give a shout when you hit town and stay warm!

B



On Dec 9, 11:00 am, Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's been snowing a lot up here in Minnesota and I just got a
 recording of an original mandolin tune I wrote so I figured I post it
 up here and see what you guys all thought.

 I'd love some comments on how to make it fit the style we're all
 studying. I tried to use downstrokes and tremolo for the melody. Don't
 know if Monroe had any tunes in Bm so I didn't have much to pull from.

 Here's the link

 www.sweetgrassband.com

 The Tune is: The Cold Winter's Night (Live)

 Stay Warm

 Mike Hedding

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Re: My Predicament

2009-12-06 Thread Dasspunk
FYI, this is one of the newer scams out there. Mr. Hill's email
account has been hacked and he needs to change his passwords. They
send this sort of email from your account to everyone in your contacts
list and try to get cash from your friends.

Brian


On Dec 6, 4:28 am, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm writing this message to you with sadness. I traveled down to London for
 a short vacation and unfortunately for me, i was mugged at Knife point last
 night at the park of the hotel where i lodged and all cash,credit cards and
 cell phone were all taken away.

 I've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues
 at all, My flight leaves in less than 5hrs from now and i am having problems
 settling the hotel bills.

 The hotel manager won't let me leave until i settle the hotel bills now am
 freaked out. I need a loan from you to return back home and i want you to
 get back to me if you will be able to help me.

 Thanks,
 Jason

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Re: Check out this guys technique

2009-12-06 Thread Dasspunk
This is only partially true. This board was started by a 50+ year old
curmudgeon... but myself personally, I only just turned 41 :)

Brian


On Dec 6, 12:50 am, Neal nealrcl...@gmail.com wrote:
 don't apologize. my god, sounds like there's nothing but a bunch of
 curmudgeonly 50 year old men on this board.  a bunch of noise...ha.  i
 mean, it's not my style either, but don't act like this kid doesn't
 have talent.  thanks linda.

 neal

 On Dec 5, 10:43 pm, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:



  Now my face is red...
  ha
  I could have put a link to one the young man wrote himself...would
  have been a better idea.
  Thanks for this link...now that is a tune!!
  Somebody needed to tell me..thanks..
  linda

  On Dec 6, 4:04 pm, Tud Jones tudjo...@gmail.com wrote:

   Here is Spoonful:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TwEYuues6Yfeature=fvw

   On Dec 5, 6:39 pm, morr...@aol.com wrote:

Thank you very much for sharing. Thats some mad skillz.

-Original Message-
From: Linda lj...@intas.net.au
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2009 5:46 pm
Subject: Check out this guys technique

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwbBGL8cFJw

Its great to see young people like this fella.

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Re: Check out this guys technique

2009-12-06 Thread Dasspunk
I find myself in complete agreement with Mr. Huffmaster... and own the
Puritan Sessions record that features Kenny (on guitar) and Josh
Graves. Excellent stuff.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GXO7RM/

B


On Dec 6, 8:57 am, Raymond Huffmaster raymondhuffmas...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Mornin'...
 Amazingly talented young man on a beautiful guitar.I reckon he
 left the melody to the song in the next county though.
 Some of you may know who Kenny Baker is...some of you may never have
 heard of himalong with being one of the worlds finest
 fiddlers..he's also one amazing guitar player..y'all find yourselves a
 copy of his guitar work and listenfine finger picking,fine flat
 picking and the melody is right there...timing too

 Loafer

 On Dec 6, 7:45 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:



  This is only partially true. This board was started by a 50+ year old
  curmudgeon... but myself personally, I only just turned 41 :)

  Brian

  On Dec 6, 12:50 am, Neal nealrcl...@gmail.com wrote:

   don't apologize. my god, sounds like there's nothing but a bunch of
   curmudgeonly 50 year old men on this board.  a bunch of noise...ha.  i
   mean, it's not my style either, but don't act like this kid doesn't
   have talent.  thanks linda.

   neal

   On Dec 5, 10:43 pm, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

Now my face is red...
ha
I could have put a link to one the young man wrote himself...would
have been a better idea.
Thanks for this link...now that is a tune!!
Somebody needed to tell me..thanks..
linda

On Dec 6, 4:04 pm, Tud Jones tudjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here is 
 Spoonful:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TwEYuues6Yfeature=fvw

 On Dec 5, 6:39 pm, morr...@aol.com wrote:

  Thank you very much for sharing. Thats some mad skillz.

  -Original Message-
  From: Linda lj...@intas.net.au
  To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2009 5:46 pm
  Subject: Check out this guys technique

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwbBGL8cFJw

  Its great to see young people like this fella.

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Re: hearing yourself

2009-12-02 Thread Dasspunk
Chef,

Yes, you will eventually get used to hearing your own voice/mando.
That's not to say you'll be okay with it... just used to it :) I would
(and do) opine that one absolutely must listen to oneself play and
sing regularly in order to improve. Doing so is quite the ear opener
to be sure and is oftentimes painful, yes... I record all of my shows
and as the saying goes, the truth hurts... I'm still waiting for the
set me free part

I can think of a few folks whom I wish I could FORCE to listen to
themselves play ;)

Brian


On Dec 2, 10:10 am, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,
 I recorded a jam from the other day.  I have recorded myself with
 other in the past but have never gotten used to hearing my self, the
 mandolin I am used to, but me, no.

 There are times that in the heat of the moment I feel there are some
 great harmonies but when I listen back I hear inadequacies(sp?).
 Maybe it's just a more careful listen, looking for errors or how to
 improve for next time.  Whether or not I did my job properly vocally
 rarely does it sound like me.

 So here goes a more direct approach Do you ever get used to
 hearing your own voice on recordings?

 Adam

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Re: A Blurb from The Music Lesson by Victor Wooten

2009-11-19 Thread Dasspunk
I'm glad you told me this came from Victor or I would have decided it
was rubbish before even reading it. This is of course true and I'm
also guilty. On the other hand, stereotypes are a real time-saver...

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33210

Brian


On Nov 19, 12:49 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I borrowed The Music Lesson from David Grier. It's a book filled
 with a lot of interesting insights of ways to look at music, how it
 relates to life situations and life in general and our interpretation
 of it or lack thereof. I find it to be enlightening in some ways and
 far-fetched in others, which may be a reflection of my own ignorance
 or resistance to what lies within the book's pages. I'd say it's worth
 a read though. Here's a quote that I came upon today that I must
 confess to being all too familiar with...

 ...Humans only hear what they want to hear. Play a record for a
 musician, and before he can listen to it he has to know who it is. And
 once he knows, he decides what it sounds like before he ever hears it,
 solely based on what he thinks he knows about the performer. What
 difference does it make who it is? What does it sound like and how
 does it make you feel? That is what is important. 

 Guilty as charged.
 Taterbug

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Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam

2009-11-18 Thread Dasspunk
And I'll be myself and give you shit about it regularly ;)

B

On Nov 18, 8:56 am, Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Alright at the advice of everyone I am going to just be myself then.

   I am keeping my tuner on my headstock and no one is going to stop me!

 Mike Hedding

 On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:53 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
 wrote:



  If anyone cares to, go to Remember the Cross and That Home Above
  by the Monroe/Flatt/Scruggs/Wise/Rainwater band. One is clearly B, the
  other B flat. But, they are both clearly played out of A. There are a
  number of other noteworthy cuts, The First Whippoorwill for one,
  that are played out of one key but are clearly not pitched in that
  key. So, did fucking Bill Monroe (to quote fucking Gaudreau) tune up
  or capo up? It's not tape drag. As Terry Bullin once said,Well, maybe
  he did it in the studio but surely he wouldn't have done it out in
  public. It's just silly. If the situation requires a different voice
  and the capo provides it, use it. When did it become against the rules
  to use the tools?

  I started using a capo now and then due to saving time and aggravation
  in the studio. Also, open tunings. I'd really love to use more open
  tunings. Listen to the cut on Dr. Ralph's recording of Lift Him Up.
  That's tuned open, but there were a few songs where we tuned open only
  to have TBone say that he'd like to go up a half step. Now, retuning 8
  strings on a mandolin every which way and expecting it to settle down
  in a few minutes is just unreasonable. Slapping on a capo is not,
  especially when time is money.

  As for working up solos and improvising...
  I think that maybe we can go back to the Father one more time and
  consider this approach. Over the years, if I listen to songs that
  Monroe did over a number of decades, such as Uncle Pen, On and On,
  Bluegrass Breakdown, etc, what I hear is a script, a framework over
  which variations are applied. I'm not talking about the construction
  of the song so much as I am the construction of his solos in the song.
  It seems that he worked out a solo that served as the basic pattern to
  follow, but changed small aspects of it occasionally as his whim
  dictated. But the basic script was predominantly the same. This may
  be helpful, maybe not. Just thought I'd throw it out there.

  I had a short conversation with Russ Barenburg the other day and the
  subject of improvisation came up. He said that he occasionally has
  people ask him about improvising, as do I. It's really an individual
  learning experience and there doesn't seem to be any one way to
  approach it or teach it. He said that to him it is ridiculous to
  assume that it is possible to whip out an improvised solo that rivals
  something that requires one sitting down and working it out and
  learning it over the course of say, several months. But that seems to
  be what some people assume they will be able to do with a few
  rules.  I think that it is easy to overlook the fact that the sound
  our heros have/had did not just appear overnight but took sometimes a
  lifetime of blood, sweat, and tears to acquire. There is too much
  impatience in us all.

  I think that Eric has a valid point, that being each song deserves a
  look to see what the best approach is. I agree with Eric too (Who is
  this Eric guy? He seems to know a lot of stuff...) regarding using
  tunings and capos, if a person wants a specific sound, go where it is
  regardless of how you need to get there. As John Hartford used to say
  (and I know I've quoted him saying this before...), This is art and
  there ain't no damned rules.

  Be bold, be yourself, be honest. The audience can spot a phony from
  the back row.

  Puhtater

  On Nov 17, 6:46 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:
  Ron Spears tells a very good Jimmy Gaudreau capo story. At a gig  
  somewhere, Jimmy put a capo on his mandolin and Ron
  gave him the hairy eyeball as only Ron can do and Jimmy got right  
  in Ron's face and says I ain't fucking Bill Monroe.
  Might even be true.

  Clyde Clevenger
  Just My Opinion, But It's Right
  Salem, Oregon
  Old Circle

  - Original Message -
  From: Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
  To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:36:23 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada  
  Pacific
  Subject: Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam

  I saw Jimmy Gaudreau use a capo on his mandolin at a bluegrass
  festival. It sounded great. It's a tool. Use it for a certain sound  
  or
  effect but not because you're too lazy to learn to play in Bb or B.
  Monroe style players play out of closed positions anyway even when
  they don't have to, right?

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Re: Deep at the Sydney Fish Markets!!

2009-11-14 Thread Dasspunk

That do sound killah... tight! That boy can build!

B

On Nov 14, 11:41 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why don't you ask the man what took us there? He's remember the name.
 Seems to me we were in Fremantle/Perth, right? By the way, I've just
 uploaded a couple pics of Senor Duffs new A5 creation. If you look on
 Youtube here...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQGs8NrllHI

 you can see/hear it. Man oh man, that's gonna be a REAL good mando.
 Alas, it's headed for Oz.
 Taterbug

 On Nov 13, 10:36 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:



  While down in OZ, we hit a place on the water that had the best fish
  'n chips I've had in my life. The fish started with a b... don't
  recall now. I also don't recall where we was... Mike would remember.

  Best. Ever.

  B

  On Nov 12, 2:36 am, Holstein st...@senatorgroup.com.au wrote:

   Howdy'all,

   I took the good family to the Sydney fish markets on Saturday morning
   and we had breakfast out for something different. No pancakes for us
   this weekend! As we sipped and crunched our way through a hearty start
   to the day, we talked about that night's menu which I was to prepare,
   a rarity these days but always fun when time allows. As we strolled
   past the various fishmongers, we selected some yummy Moreton Bay
   oysters for Kilpatrick, a dozen king prawns for garlic and chili
   prawns, and then we spied the fattest meanest looking mud crab in the
   box. He had a set of nippers on him big enough to scare the pants off
   any banjo player.

   After all this mouth watering selecting, we headed back to the car and
   what do I see?? I see Deep at Sydney's Fish Markets. Well we stopped
   and said hello and took a photo for the occasion.

   Photos IMG_1148.JPG and IMG_1154.JPG have been uploaded.

   EnjoyHolstein
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Re: Going in the bag this week...

2009-11-13 Thread Dasspunk

Or an H13?

:)

B

On Nov 12, 8:05 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yessir. I'd give a purty for one of those old J45's. Rather have a
 J35, but who can afford the going rate? Martins just don't have that
 dry thunk.

 TBug

 On Nov 12, 10:38 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:



  I love seeing a bluegrasser crank out the rhythm on an old Gibson.  I know
  that Martins have ruled the bluegrass scene, but I LOVE the sound of those
  old boxes in accompaniment.

  Mark

  On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:05 AM, mistertaterbug 
  taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

   Oh for crying out loud. Great singing. Who's the fat guy in the yellow
   shirt?
   Tubbytater

   On Nov 12, 8:49 am, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
...and that's a wicked kick-off.

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VIJtrnfC-U
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Re: Kenny Baker Tribute Shows

2009-11-10 Thread Dasspunk

Once again everyone, thanks. You're too kind...

I hope we do add some shows with this lineup as I would like another
chance to tighten things up. And I'm still waiting for the brutally
frank Taterreport.

Jonas, we were using my usual Shure KSM32 setup which is my play on
the one-mic setup. I have one pointed up and one pointed down on a
single stand. We also had two small condenser wing mics on each side
for whathaveyous... Bob was on one the whole night which explains his
dip in volume.

B

On Nov 10, 6:01 am, Jonas Mattebo jonas.matt...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's fine playing Brian! What was the mic setup like?

 /Jonas

 2009/11/10 Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com





  I finally got to listen to it. Great job. What a fine ensemble of
  musicians to play these tunes! Good on ya, son.

  On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

   Great stuff Brian, I have been looking closely at Kentucky Waltz.  I
   really liked the things you did with it. Very nice.
   Great tone, rhythm, and ..ideas.there.
   linda

   On Nov 10, 10:58 am, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
   Awesome job, man. Great picking all the way around.

   
   From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
   To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:29:58 PM
   Subject: Re: Kenny Baker Tribute Shows

   Thanks all for the kind words. I am lucky to have such players that
   are willing to put up with me. All the boys had such a great time
   doing these shows, we're thinking of doing more of 'em. We'll see.

   Thanks again everyone,
   B

   On Nov 9, 10:13 am, Joseph canit...@gmail.com wrote:

I accidentally hit 'reply to author' here's my question and Brian's
response...

Hey Brian,

You mentioned that all you played for the last few weeks was stuff off
the album.  What do you think that has done for your playing?  I'm
guessing that it has made you more of a disciplined player and
learner.

Great playing by the way, I especially liked your solo on Monroe's
Hornpipe.  Very sweet!

Peace,
Joe

Joe,

Thanks for the kind words. I definitely did notice an improvement in
my playing from having to focus in on the record. I also had to
prepare physically for it, as two sets of Monroe is challenging for
someone who doesn't play professionally. I played the album straight
through twice a day for most of the past week.

It really was a full ton of fun.

B
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Re: looking for pickers

2009-11-10 Thread Dasspunk

Dear Froderick,

I was just reading your thread and eating a fortune cookie that said:
Continue your present conversation for some valuable insight. I'm
hoping you can provide said insight because I'm not sure I can... but
I hate to see a message in a bottle go unanswered.

Finding a partner in crime is tough... you never know where they're
gonna come from. So I'd say this approach is as good as any. I
consider myself lucky to have found a few said criminals to cohort
with but none are pros. There's not a lot of folks trying to make it
with music in these parts but there's a few. I tip my cap (just
pretend I wear one) to y'all. It's tough love.

Anyway, give a shout if you're in need of some gab.
B




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 Hey folks:

 I'm looking to start a side project and I'd like to find one or two
 like-minded people to work with.  I realize this sort of message in a
 bottle is a long shot but I gotta start somewhere.

 I'm hoping to find some folks as driven and passionate about old-time,
 old-school bluegrass, old blues...you know, the stuff we come to TB to
 learn...as I am.  Yes, I already have a band but those folks are
 definitely not in it up to their necks as I am--they've got day jobs,
 kids, etc.

 So I hope to put something together that's more focused on what I love
 and what I do best.  I like to work, arrange, write music, perform, get
 gigs, all that sort of stuff.  I'd like to find someone who wants to do
 it as much as I do and I think the rest of it (the instrumentation, the
 set list, the time and/or distance involved) will take care of itself.
 Give me a holler if you're interested.

 Thanks!

 Fred
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Re: Kenny Baker Tribute Shows

2009-11-10 Thread Dasspunk

Thank you sir. Kenny is a stud and I agree, that record is at the top
of all the lists.

B


On Nov 10, 12:05 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 Real fine pickin Brian and to the whole group.  That is one of the all-time
 great records in my opinion.  I've learned a great deal of fiddlin off that
 album.

 Mark



 On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Brian Ray dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well, I survived the two shows I had this weekend with the band that
  has since become known as the Kenny Baker Tribute Band. For the
  folks that don't know, this ensemble was concocted by various Sconnie
  (that's Wisconsin) boys (and one Iowan) to play the entire Kenny
  Baker Plays Bill Monroe record at a few shows. The band includes two
  Bluegrass Boys, including Bob Black (the banjo player on the original
  record) and Mark Hembree (Wisconsin's lone Bluegrass Boy). It was the
  brainchild of fiddler Paul Keinitz and also includes myself on mando
  and guitar player John Fabke.

  Well, I'm posting this kind of in answer to a few of the recent topics
  on the group. As I've been sweating and working on learning the album,
  I can attest that my practice time for the last few weeks has been
  listening to, and playing along with, this record and not much else. I
  can also say, that after only two shows, I'm totally exhausted but had
  as much fun as should be legal. Playing with these boys was a pleasure
  and an honor.

  (To steal Hembree's favorite saying) Anyway, here are a few tunes
  for last night's show at the Richland Center City Auditorium in
  Richland Center, WI. A couple hundred nice folks showed up to see us
  and were one of the nicer audiences I've had the pleasure to play for.

 http://dasspunk.com/music/kenny.tribute/

  Brian
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Re: Kenny Baker Tribute Shows

2009-11-09 Thread Dasspunk

Thanks all for the kind words. I am lucky to have such players that
are willing to put up with me. All the boys had such a great time
doing these shows, we're thinking of doing more of 'em. We'll see.

Thanks again everyone,
B



On Nov 9, 10:13 am, Joseph canit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I accidentally hit 'reply to author' here's my question and Brian's
 response...

 Hey Brian,

 You mentioned that all you played for the last few weeks was stuff off
 the album.  What do you think that has done for your playing?  I'm
 guessing that it has made you more of a disciplined player and
 learner.

 Great playing by the way, I especially liked your solo on Monroe's
 Hornpipe.  Very sweet!

 Peace,
 Joe

 Joe,

 Thanks for the kind words. I definitely did notice an improvement in
 my playing from having to focus in on the record. I also had to
 prepare physically for it, as two sets of Monroe is challenging for
 someone who doesn't play professionally. I played the album straight
 through twice a day for most of the past week.

 It really was a full ton of fun.

 B
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Re: The Ideal Gig

2009-10-29 Thread Dasspunk

Nice! I especially like the 1 drink limit. Maybe they do know
musicians :)

I hate weddings. The only thing worse than going to one is playing
one. All laws, common sense and social niceties are somehow abandoned
on their special day and they always try to stretch that day into a
week or more. What makes people think their wedding day is special to
anyone but those immediately involved? Have they ever been to another
wedding? What makes them think that *their* wedding will be the one
wedding in history that doesn't suck?

One Bridezilla last year, after hiring us--a Bluegrass band-- to play
her special day, proceeded to email and call me no less than 12 times
in the first month we were hired... which was 10 months before the
actual wedding. Each call/email required me to put together lists of
tunes with audio samples for her approval. After MANY changes, I was
about to pull the plug on the planning stage when she called and
wanted to--due to the mother-in-law's concerns--include other genres.
That is when I fired her.

I don't miss playing music for a living...

Brian

On Oct 28, 7:23 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy all. I *had* to post this to the group. It is a bit overboard,
 but not that out of line with a few of the gigs that one gets called
 on. It just goes to show the attitude that some people have regarding
 the job of musician. Of course, the language is lighthearted enough,
 but the underlying message is a bit ignorant of the trade...

 Come play our wedding for four hours for free, play music from every
 genre known to man (by request, probably) and if Granny wants to play
 the drums, then let her. You get a great meal and drink, provided
 you can consume it in some out-of-the-way place during the time when
 relatives are telling embarrassing stories about the bride and groom.
 You may give your CDs away for free to people who will lay them down
 on a coffee table or bathroom sink and leave them there. Tips?
 Really?

 There used to be a lot of conventions at the Opryland Hotel years ago,
 probably still are, that were somewhat like this. Bluegrass as dinner
 music. More than once we were told to turn down so that they could
 talk over catered suppers. Of course, there are a lot of great gigs
 that are nothing like the one described, but these really sting...Just
 imagine being asked to do whatever your occupation is under these
 terms. Sort of changes things, eh?

 Conventional Tater

 This ad actually appeared in a newspaper. Before you get ready to play
 this,
  read on... BAND WANTED



  Couple getting married in need of a band. Ideally, we'd like a 4-5 piece
  band that can play disco, funk, RB, Motown, rock, top-40, as well as some
  Jewish Ethnic songs like Hava Nagila. We'd need about four hours of music,
  from 6-10 PM with some breaks in between. We also need some light rock or
  jazz for the dinner music. Also: we need to use your microphone for toasts
  and speeches, etc. Pay: Unfortunately, we cannot afford to pay the band in
  money. But here's what we offer in return:

  (1) You and the band will be fed a great meal. (However, as we do need some
  quiet dinner music provided, you'll have to eat during the toasts.)

  (2) Each band member will get 1 free drink.

  (3) We will mention your band in the toasts, and you'll get a chance to pass
  out your business cards, and you can give away any band CDs you have. There
  will be some very high class people there, and you'll probably get some
  offers from this.

  (4) If you do well, we might hire you for a paid party later this fall

  (5) We will have a tip jar out for the band.

  (6) You'll get the great feeling of doing a good deed!

  One more thing: We do have a few family members that play drums and guitar,
  so we hope it'll be okay to let them sit in for a tune or two.
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Re: The Ideal Gig

2009-10-29 Thread Dasspunk

I totally agree Mike. I do enjoy playing DURING the wedding. It's
usually me and my fiddle player Paul playing a handful of tunes while
folks are seated, the march and the close out. I also don't mind
playing the cocktail set if paid well. Especially when we're invited
to partake.

B

On Oct 29, 8:27 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote:
 Contrarian that I am, I don't mind playing weddings, if there's a fat  
 check involved. Not receptions, mind you, but weddings, and playing  
 celtic, not bluegrass (I can't imagine a banjo at a wedding, but  
 that's just me). Show up 30 minutes early, take out our instruments in  
 the choir loft, no need to set up the PA or mics. In about an hour,  
 we're out the door, money in hand. I also like the acoustics playing  
 in church; lots of natural reverb. The main problem, as mentioned, is  
 the brides. They usually bug you to death. I always try to turn them  
 over to a woman in our band I have dubbed our wedding advisor. Flip  
 side is when the big day comes, they're so wrapped up in things they  
 don't even know you exist.
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Re: Ginny Hawker and Tracy Schwarz

2009-10-23 Thread Dasspunk

This is one of those where I can't believe I've missed them for so
long...

I had heard of both of these folks and have one of Tracy's fiddle CDs
but I'd not heard them together. Very nice. Ginny's Letters From My
Father is exceptional and will be delivered to me shortly...

Thanks for enlightening me!
Brian


On Oct 22, 11:53 am, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm goin to see these folks tomorrow, should be right up my alley.  I
 don't much care for that refined pop voice.  I like the ol timey
 sounds of Ralph stanley and the like.  Plus I don't have a refined pop
 like voice so maybe that is why I don't.  My kids call me pop and that
 is about as close as I get!  Any way I should be able to jam with them
 after the show so that should be fun.

 Here is a link for those unfamiliar.  There are loads of video on
 youtube of Ginny and of Tracy when he was with the New Lost City
 Ramblers and solo stuff.  Lot's of heart and soul...

 http://www.ginnyandtracy.com/CDs.html

 Time to get modal...
 Adam
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Re: Your weekend music plans

2009-10-12 Thread Dasspunk

Well we just added a second show out at the Richmand Center Auditorium
in Richmand Center, WI on Nov. 7th. So now I have two chances to get
it right ;)

B



On Oct 11, 3:06 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 You better play it right, boy...
 Bugs

 On Oct 9, 2:22 pm, Brian Ray dassp...@gmail.com wrote:



  I'll be practicing for this...

  Brian

  On Oct 9, 10:20 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:  Anybody
  have any plans for music this weekend? My plan is to do some  recording at
  home this weekend. Been working on a bunch of  instrumental tunes recorded
  on mando family instruments. It's time to  get them done.   What are you
  doing this weekend?

   Baker Plays Monroe-c.jpg
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Re: Monroe's Mandolins

2009-10-11 Thread Dasspunk

I wouldn't waste a precious damn on that... :)

B

On Oct 11, 3:04 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bill was given an Ibanez F5. I have/had a poster of him playing it at
 one time. Matter of fact, seems like Joe Stuart told me that Bill gave
 him one(probably his?). I don't know the model number. Just because
 there is a picture of Bill holding one doesn't make it worth a damn,
 now does it?
 Tbug

 On Oct 9, 10:22 am, Terry W. Harvey terwaha...@gmail.com wrote:



  Did Mr. Monroe ever have/play an Ibanez 527 model?  There is a fella
  over at the cafe that is using that as a sell point for his 526.  Just
  curious
  if anyone knows.  Tater?
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Re: recording tater cam lessons

2009-10-09 Thread Dasspunk

Leopard (10.5) and Snow Leopard (10.6) allow you to record iChats via
the Video Menu/Record Chat but both parties need to be on Leopard. I
believe LaBibbs is still on Tiger... We could fix this of course...

B


On Oct 8, 1:50 pm, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote:
 Warning: Conference recorder doesn't work with 10.6.1 -- Snow Leopard  
 or Snow Possum or whatever. Found that out the hard way. And the new  
 version of QuickTime allows you to record video chat ... but not with  
 Tater for some reason. If anyone has gotten this to work, please clue  
 me in. Meanwhile, I've been using Screenium, which costs money, to  
 make of video of the live video ...

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  comes to recording web chats.

  If you are using a MAC and Ichat then I use something called
  conference recorder (I can post a direct link if you want); it was
  dirt cheap and works like a charm. If you upgrade to QuickTime Pro
  (also cheap) you can mark little bits of video and repeat, slow down,
  speed up or even hear some backwards Tater licks
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Re: Mike and David Radio Interview

2009-10-07 Thread Dasspunk

There's a button you can push Mike... it's the one with a picture of a
pillow with a dollar sign on it.

B



On Oct 7, 10:50 am, Michael Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com wrote:
 screw my playing, I want to be coddled, is there an appropriate box I
 can check so you'll make the necessary adjustments in your teaching
 style?

 On 10/7/09, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote:





  I appreciate the encouragement.

  On Oct 8, 1:57 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
  I think you're letting yourself get in a stew here, ljt. I can't say
  that I understand quite what your aggravation is. We're all frustrated
  and overcome by the process of learning how to express ourselves with
  tones, no matter how far or short we've come. I can say that with
  confidence. I am in it up to my ears just like you are and have talked
  to some of the most respected people in the business who say the same
  thing. It appears that the art takes no prisoners regardless of level
  of accomplishment. There is always another tier, more questions, more
  answers.

  Enjoy the process and be fearless in your quest for more. If you hold
  back, you will not progress. If you are shy you will live to regret
  your decision to take that stance. I have fought holding back all my
  life. Don't let it overcome you. Just go for it, just do it, carpe
  diem or whatever the current phrase is.

  Socra-tater

  On Oct 7, 8:22 am, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

   I guess those poor dumb folks who fronted up with their money in hopes
   of learning something just have no dang reason to live ..what so ever.

   On Oct 8, 12:15 am, Will Dennis willard.den...@gmail.com wrote:

Does Grier normally do workshops? Being a great player does not
necesarrily equate to being a good teacher. (caveat before I get
slammed - I'm not specifically talking about Grier here.) I am also in
IT, and realize the challenges when someone wants to learn something
in 5 minutes that took me a year of plugging away at it before I fully
understood it. Sometimes you just have to learn by doing. I go to my
share of workshops, and you gotta admit, some of the questions posed
are kinda dumb sometimes... It's like the perennial what kind of pick
do you use question - like that's the key or something. (Aside - I
love the day-glo pick story in Richard Smith's Monroe book :)
Anyways, unless there's a real track record of rudeness, I'd let it
slide as a good person having a bad day. The man's musical ability
certainly speaks for itself.

Will
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Re: Compton and Grier - Oct 3rd - Madison, WI

2009-10-03 Thread Dasspunk

Word on the street is that the Midwest shows are going very well...
Well, tonight Mike and David will be in Madison, WI and its VERY
likely we'll be sold out when all is said and done. We sold over 60
advance tickets...

If you were planning on coming to the show and don't have tickets, I'd
get there as early as possible. Here's the info again...

Saturday, October 3rd @ 7pm
The Wil-Mar Center
953 Jenifer St, Madison, WI
Info: http://deadmessenger.com

See you at the show!
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Re: Compton and Grier - Oct 3rd - Madison, WI

2009-10-03 Thread Dasspunk

Mike,

Since Trent ain't bought a ticket yet (coughslaker/cough), I'll
save him $5 and just tell him to pay you the $15 for your ticket. You
will them of course be scalping your ticket for a penny profit.

You dig?
Huggy Bear



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 I bought a ticket to the Madison show but can't make it if anyone  
 wants it it's up for grabs.

 Mike Hedding

 On Oct 3, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:





  Word on the street is that the Midwest shows are going very well...
  Well, tonight Mike and David will be in Madison, WI and its VERY
  likely we'll be sold out when all is said and done. We sold over 60
  advance tickets...

  If you were planning on coming to the show and don't have tickets, I'd
  get there as early as possible. Here's the info again...

  Saturday, October 3rd @ 7pm
  The Wil-Mar Center
  953 Jenifer St, Madison, WI
  Info:http://deadmessenger.com

  See you at the show!
  Brian
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Re: Taterbug Specials are here!

2009-09-29 Thread Dasspunk

Two heavies please... mine is past the nub and headed for the holes!

B


On Sep 29, 1:22 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm up for one

 2009/9/29, ljt lj...@intas.net.au:



  I keep losing and finding mine and if I still have mine when the new
  one arrives, then might make this next one a Christmas gift for
  someone I know who already admires the one I have...he saw it for what
  is was straight away!

  On Sep 29, 11:23 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
  I forget who all put in requests for a Taterbug Special so I'm putting
  a blurb up here on the group to announce that a new batch is on its
  way. So if I've overlooked you, lemme know if you want one or two
  or...

  Taterbug

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Mike and David Radio Interview

2009-09-29 Thread Dasspunk

Mike and Mr. Grier are en route to the Midwest and will be doing a
radio interview at 10:30am (about 10 minutes from now) on WORT FM
(Madison, WI).

You can listen in free here: http://www.wort-fm.org/listen.php

Should be entertaining... :)

Brian

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Tater Group Update...

2009-09-29 Thread Dasspunk

All,

I think we're all kind of annoyed by the spam getting through to the
group--except the Sex Chat ones of course :). To combat this, I
thought we might try the Messages from new members are moderated
option and see if that helps. Therefore, if you're new to the group
and trying to post to tell me my playing is complete and utter crap
(which it is), it may take a while for that message to hit the group.

If this becomes more of an annoyance than the spam itself, we'll
punt...

Thanks,
Brian
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Re: New Skaggs CD

2009-09-27 Thread Dasspunk

How 'bout them Bears?

I must say I find this thread extremely interesting on a veritable
plethora of levels. Not the least of which is the fact that good,
honest discussion necessitates a few car crashes. And I applaud this
group for allowing for just such discourse... as we, the rubber-
necking witnesses, can now attest. I also have great respect for
Mike's willingness to leave a Road Master sized divot in any topic. I
do love that...

I also respect Nelson's reaction here. It is completely reasonable.
When someone you respect trashes someone else you respect, there is a
quandary.

And lest my comments seem too middle of the road I will say this... It
is my personal opinion that Mr. Skaggs' mandolin playing is complete
and utter shit. I find it trite, uninventive and just downright
terrible. It literally makes me cringe. I fast forward through his
solos on Bluegrass Album Band records as to not disrupt the otherwise
beauty, including Mr. Skaggs' fantastic singing. I would usually keep
comments about someone's playing to myself (or at least amongst
friends) but his obvious want to wear the crown sickens me and I feel
the need to say so. /rant

Now, that said, I also feel obliged to go listen to Skaggs' new record
because people I respect like it. This I will do.

Buckle up!
Brian



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 Nelson,
 I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to
 a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing
 intolerance for Ricky's attitude. I have been told by more than a few
 people that Ricky was downright rude to them in face to face
 situations, not to mention him talking down to an entire crowd. One
 member of this group was called sonny by Skaggs once in very
 condescending manner. Then, you have the damned ongoing father of
 bluegrass issue. Who in hell wants to hear that shit anymore? I tried
 for decades to play everything Bill played, only to find I can't do
 it. There's nothing I'd like better than to have his commitment and
 powerful musical mind, but I'm not a Bill Monroe. There was only one,
 there will only be ONE. Nobody else can play like the man, no one else
 (in the bluegrass field) had his creative depth and showmanship. Bill
 was king in his time. For the style of music he played and sang, no
 one else will come close. There are others, were others who stand as
 tall, I'm sure of it. But I don't have a list. Bill couldn't have been
 the only one. But Ricky is not one of them. He is very talented, yes.
 He damned well oughta be considering he's been doing this since he was
 a kid. No one is trying to deny Ricky his talents and achievements.
 Indeed, I'd like to have his level of success and position myself. I'd
 like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does.
 But you gotta know by now that putting one's life in the public eye
 requires being willing to take more than one's fair share of hits.

 You might also consider the fact that I asked Ricky repeatedly to
 contact me about coming to the Monroe Mando Camp this year. After I
 hounded him (and his father-in-law Buck White) to call me about
 stepping up to the plate and show us all his best father of
 bluegrass impersonation, he sent me two lines on his cell phone in a
 text message saying that he was working on three projects and would
 not be able to make it. Do you suppose he was so busy that he could
 not spare part of one weekend to honor the very person whose image he
 seeks to emulate?

 If you are easily impressed by people who can play more than one
 instrument, I can point you to a dozen here just in my own neighborhood
 (I am NOT one of them, by the way). If Ricky touches a nerve in you,
 then by God, I say buy everything the man's put out, send him a Xmas
 card and go hang out on his doorstep. Good for you. But you needn't
 chastise the rest of the us for having opinions about the man's
 motives. As far as addressing things in this group, we do not have nor
 need a mediator. That's one of the reasons I set it up this way.
 Everybody says what they want to. Period. If one of us smells
 something he/she thinks smells like shit, then it's fair game. By the
 same token, you brought us something that you liked and we're grateful
 for it. I'm sure that even some of the ones commenting here will go
 out and buy the album.

 If you want a kinder gentler crowd, I'm sure Commando's door is open.
 Best I remember, they were nice and PC over there.

 Instiga-tater

 On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:



  Some of the nastiness in this thread makes me think some of us need to
  contact that BDSM lady for a spanking or two!

  On Sep 23, 8:28 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote:

   And you thought Skaggs knew now to turn a buck!

   On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Dasspunk wrote:

Wow, bigevemusic.com [NWF] has really gone through some changes...
eek!

B

Re: New Skaggs CD

2009-09-23 Thread Dasspunk

Wow, bigevemusic.com [NWF] has really gone through some changes...
eek!

B

On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, Bigevemusic bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yep Reporting live from Bean Blossom.

 Miles

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com  
 wrote:





  Izzatchoomiles?

  On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote:
  How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly  
  fatuous
  notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require  
  any sort
  of leadership whatsoever?

  Song list:

  Under My Thumb
  I'm the Boss of This Here House
  Loser (Beck)
  Follow ME

  You get the picture.
  David

  On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug  
  taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

  My lands, what's next?
  Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made  
  Momma
  Cry...

  Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits.  
  But
  I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer.

  Taterfly

  On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
  I hope this is o.k. to address in this group.

  I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been  
  listening
  to it quite a bit.  It is really very good.  The personal nature of
  the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there  
  is a
  simplicity to it that appeals to me.

  There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are
  limited to one or two instruments on most tracks.

  It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might
  say.

  No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message.  Maybe
  next time
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Re: New Skaggs CD

2009-09-22 Thread Dasspunk

Ricky, I'm really happy for you, and I'm gonna let you finish, but
Bill Monroe was the best Father of Bluegrass of all time!

B



On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote:
 How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous
 notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort
 of leadership whatsoever?

 Song list:

 Under My Thumb
 I'm the Boss of This Here House
 Loser (Beck)
 Follow ME

 You get the picture.
 David

 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug 
 taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:





  My lands, what's next?
  Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made Momma
  Cry...

  Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits. But
  I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer.

  Taterfly

  On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
   I hope this is o.k. to address in this group.

   I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening
   to it quite a bit.  It is really very good.  The personal nature of
   the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a
   simplicity to it that appeals to me.

   There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are
   limited to one or two instruments on most tracks.

   It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might
   say.

   No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message.  Maybe
   next time
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Re: New Duff 'Dola

2009-09-15 Thread Dasspunk

You're gonna need them boxers!

On Sep 15, 11:05 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...looks like Paul threw in a free pair of boxers too...

 On Sep 15, 11:00 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:



  Howdy Folks, howdy.
  I just got some pics of a new 17 scale mandola by our Mr. Paul Hello
  Dahling Duff. He says it's very balanced and alive. Check out the
  pics on the file page.

  Can't wait to get my grimey hands on it!
  Taterboy
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Re: Compton and Grier - Oct 3rd - Madison, WI

2009-09-11 Thread Dasspunk

I'm very excited to see these boys touring the Midwest... finally! 5
shows; no waiting. Gonna be great. Get yer tickets now!

Sept 29th - House Concert - St. Louis, MO
Sept 30th - Redstone Room, Davenport, IA  - 
http://www.redstoneroom.com/calendar.php#560
Oct 2nd - Stepping Stone Theater, St. Paul, MN -
http://www.whistlepigs.com/compton/comptonshow.html
Oct 3rd - Wil-Mar Center, Madison, WI - http://deadmessenger.com
Oct 4th - Down Home Guitars, Frankfort, IL -
http://www.downhomeguitars.com/html/david_grier___mike_compton1.html

See you at the show!
Brian


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Re: Monroe Bear Family Disks

2009-09-03 Thread Dasspunk

This reminds me... I saw Mike play, not one but two, two Grateful Dead
songs with Elvis Costello. Neither of which was China Cat Sunflower...
but still :)

Brian

On Sep 2, 3:18 pm, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sort of like some of those gem Grateful Dead shows from the early to  
 mid 90's.  I like older (more recent) Monroe as well.  He could play  
 better then than I ever will and his timing and phrasing are still  
 more than enjoyable.   Every time I hear Monroe talk it reminds me of  
 my grandpa; this is even more true when I listen to some of the  
 recordings of Monroe from the 80's and 90's.  The first Monroe  
 recording i listened to at any length was a cassette (live at the  
 Grand Ole Opry) from the 90's and it was beautiful.

 On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Dasspunk wrote:





  Maybe I'm the odd duck, but I love the Monroe discs from the 80s+. The
  old man just kept getting better and better IMHO. And I also love all
  of the Jimmy Campbell records (Pieces of Time, Young Opry Fiddler and
  the rare cassette tape Top of the Morning). MAN that boy could play!
  One of the best...

  B

  On Sep 2, 8:55 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Jimmy Campbell's Pieces of Time is one of those out of print CDs.
  Monroe plays mandolin on all of it, I think, and it's one of the last
  recordings Monroe made. It contains The Chilly Winds of Shannon and
  a blues tune Bill wrote for one of Jimmy's sons.

  The 50's Monroe recordings with Jimmy Martin rate right up there.
  Monroe's power/downstroke playing really grabbed me early on when I
  was starting in on his style and it still does.

  On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:59 AM, 14stringsperrypale...@gmail.com  
  wrote:

  I agree..the 50-58 period has some mean sounding stuff on
  itthe Sally Jo
  on there is unlike any other Monroe cut I've heard. 59-69 starts to
  get a more polished sound when Rowan, Keith and Greene enter the
  scene. The first one with the Monroe Brother's and The Band is
  essential too.

  Neil Rosenberg's book seems to be the source when it comes to  
  tracking
  this stuff.
  According to that book there are quite a few cuts (some of those
  obscure latter day fiddle tunes) that Monroe guested. But sadly many
  of those records are out of print.
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Re: Monroe Bear Family Disks

2009-09-02 Thread Dasspunk

Maybe I'm the odd duck, but I love the Monroe discs from the 80s+. The
old man just kept getting better and better IMHO. And I also love all
of the Jimmy Campbell records (Pieces of Time, Young Opry Fiddler and
the rare cassette tape Top of the Morning). MAN that boy could play!
One of the best...

B


On Sep 2, 8:55 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jimmy Campbell's Pieces of Time is one of those out of print CDs.
 Monroe plays mandolin on all of it, I think, and it's one of the last
 recordings Monroe made. It contains The Chilly Winds of Shannon and
 a blues tune Bill wrote for one of Jimmy's sons.

 The 50's Monroe recordings with Jimmy Martin rate right up there.
 Monroe's power/downstroke playing really grabbed me early on when I
 was starting in on his style and it still does.



 On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:59 AM, 14stringsperrypale...@gmail.com wrote:

  I agree..the 50-58 period has some mean sounding stuff on
  itthe Sally Jo
  on there is unlike any other Monroe cut I've heard. 59-69 starts to
  get a more polished sound when Rowan, Keith and Greene enter the
  scene. The first one with the Monroe Brother's and The Band is
  essential too.

  Neil Rosenberg's book seems to be the source when it comes to tracking
  this stuff.
  According to that book there are quite a few cuts (some of those
  obscure latter day fiddle tunes) that Monroe guested. But sadly many
  of those records are out of print.
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Re: Compton/Grier

2009-07-24 Thread Dasspunk

That's right Don, the boys will be donning (pun) their blue smocks and
rolling back the tunes down at the Wal-Mart. We could use a few
greeters... you available? :)

B

On Jul 24, 11:29 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Was that a typo? Wal-Mart Center?



 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Dasspunkdassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Correction: closed.

  Mike and Mr. Grier will be performing live, and in person, in lovely
  Madison, WI on Saturday, October 3rd at Wil-Mar Center.

  Feel free to contact me for more info...
  Brian

  On Jul 23, 12:13 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Closing in? Damn, Orangina.

  Usually David and I play two sets. We start together, then split off
  and do seperate mini sets. David has historically done his set first
  and then I join him on the end, take a break, then same scheme on the
  second with me doing a mini set in the middle. Easy greasy. I'm
  looking forward to it.

  Been doing a LOT of playing up here in the woods. Playing a bunch with
  Rich DelGrosso, Carol McComb, Evo Bluefield. Some great pickers up
  here. Fun stuff from David the man with the hair Keenan and his
  honky tonk sound. Lots of great swing, gypsy, fingerstyle guitarists.
  Outstanding jazz singers too, Jennifer Scott of note.

  Yee haw,
  Spuds

  On Jul 21, 1:47 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

   No worries... I am still on the hunt for a proper room to have them
   boys down in Madison. I'm closing in!

   B

   On Jul 21, 7:58 am, Fred fkel...@scicable.net wrote:

My Bad!  It was definitely Friday, October 2nd.

Dasspunk wrote:
 Hey Fred,

 You booked Sat the 3rd or Fri the 2nd? Now I can't remember :)

 B

 On Jul 20, 7:20 pm, Fred fkel...@scicable.net wrote:
 Well some details are still being ironed out but I don't think it's 
 too
 early to announce that the Whistlepigs are dragging their sorry
 carcasses up to St. Paul on October 3rd--one night only at the 
 Stepping
 Stone Theater.  I'll keep you all posted as to when tickets are
 available for purchase.

 Mike Hedding wrote:
 Anyone catching any of these shows coming up? I heard they're 
 going to
 be out westwas hoping someone could post a set list or tell me
 what kind of stuff they're playing these days. I got to start
 practicing.
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Re: Compton/Grier

2009-07-21 Thread Dasspunk

Hey Fred,

You booked Sat the 3rd or Fri the 2nd? Now I can't remember :)

B


On Jul 20, 7:20 pm, Fred fkel...@scicable.net wrote:
 Well some details are still being ironed out but I don't think it's too
 early to announce that the Whistlepigs are dragging their sorry
 carcasses up to St. Paul on October 3rd--one night only at the Stepping
 Stone Theater.  I'll keep you all posted as to when tickets are
 available for purchase.



 Mike Hedding wrote:
  Anyone catching any of these shows coming up? I heard they're going to
  be out westwas hoping someone could post a set list or tell me
  what kind of stuff they're playing these days. I got to start
  practicing.
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Re: Squirrel Hunters

2009-06-09 Thread Dasspunk

We start and end every show with it... it's our Watermelon on the
Vine... so to speak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADyDCvH_F1A

Or perhaps this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4delyWU-oV0

B



On Jun 8, 10:17 pm, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I didn't notice the pumpkin at first, but now I spy it. You gotta play
 that tune if your band's named after it.



 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Dasspunkdassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  And I like Squirrel Hunters so much, I named my band after it...

 http://titsh.com

  B

  On Jun 8, 2:30 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you don't mind my asking, how long did the good folks tell you the wait
  was going to be?

  M

  On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:35 AM, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote:

   Nice job on Sq Htrs Don!

   I'm on the list for one of those Model 1's..love those flamed
   looking sides!
   I also love the plain jane look of them; sort of like a wolf in
   sheep's clothing :)

   I have a slightly different picture courtesy of the starchy one...
   how do you post the picture in the body of your message like that?

   On Jun 8, 12:20 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
Steve sent this out to the folks attending his building clinic at the
Mandolin Symposium this year.

Enjoy.  If you know someone waiting on this year's batch, it's likely 
one
   of
these.

Mark

-- Forwarded message --
From: Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Squirrel Hunters
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com

Where's that picture of the model 1's?

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Mark Sealemark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good job Don.  I'm loving that Gil Oval hole.  I recently saw a pic 
 of
this
 year's batch of Model 1's.  16 instruments in a rack waiting on final
 setup.  Droool..

 I'm going to have to add this tune to the to-do list.

 Mark

 On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Don Grieser 
   adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Here's my take on the Squirrel Hunters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8bV4cbBI4A

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Re: Squirrel Hunters

2009-06-08 Thread Dasspunk

Mine is in that picture as well... it's the pumpkin one!

http://dasspunk.com

B



On Jun 8, 11:20 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 Steve sent this out to the folks attending his building clinic at the
 Mandolin Symposium this year.

 Enjoy.  If you know someone waiting on this year's batch, it's likely one of
 these.

 Mark

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Squirrel Hunters
 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com

 Where's that picture of the model 1's?

 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Mark Sealemark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
  Good job Don.  I'm loving that Gil Oval hole.  I recently saw a pic of
 this
  year's batch of Model 1's.  16 instruments in a rack waiting on final
  setup.  Droool..

  I'm going to have to add this tune to the to-do list.

  Mark

  On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  Here's my take on the Squirrel Hunters.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8bV4cbBI4A

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Re: Squirrel Hunters

2009-06-08 Thread Dasspunk

And I like Squirrel Hunters so much, I named my band after it...

http://titsh.com

B



On Jun 8, 2:30 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you don't mind my asking, how long did the good folks tell you the wait
 was going to be?

 M

 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:35 AM, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote:

  Nice job on Sq Htrs Don!

  I'm on the list for one of those Model 1's..love those flamed
  looking sides!
  I also love the plain jane look of them; sort of like a wolf in
  sheep's clothing :)

  I have a slightly different picture courtesy of the starchy one...
  how do you post the picture in the body of your message like that?

  On Jun 8, 12:20 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
   Steve sent this out to the folks attending his building clinic at the
   Mandolin Symposium this year.

   Enjoy.  If you know someone waiting on this year's batch, it's likely one
  of
   these.

   Mark

   -- Forwarded message --
   From: Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
   Date: Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:04 AM
   Subject: Re: Squirrel Hunters
   To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com

   Where's that picture of the model 1's?

   On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Mark Sealemark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
Good job Don.  I'm loving that Gil Oval hole.  I recently saw a pic of
   this
year's batch of Model 1's.  16 instruments in a rack waiting on final
setup.  Droool..

I'm going to have to add this tune to the to-do list.

Mark

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Don Grieser 
  adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
wrote:

Here's my take on the Squirrel Hunters.

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8bV4cbBI4A

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Re: New Presto (Crush) Case

2009-03-06 Thread Dasspunk

Yeah, but how does it taste? Try boiling it down and adding some
potatoes, leeks and a touch of nutmeg...

B


On Mar 5, 5:57 pm, Paul Duff pd...@globaldial.com wrote:
 Sir Tate

 As you know I'm one for carrying out stingent research and testing on my
 products and Brian's case has already gone through this process. It has been
 trialed as a nose wheel chock for a 747 and a bollard in the parking lot of
 the airport. It did surprisingly well at each task and I must say the colour
 was a real hit with the Qantas air hostesses.
 It wasn't much work to get it back up to shape ready for Brian's Orange
 Crush F5. It's amazing what you can do with superglue these days! It does
 have mains power, however it runs at 240 volt, sorry about that.

 PD

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 Subject: Re: New Presto (Crush) Case

 Paul,
 Ain't there no USB port on the danged thing? Where do I plug in my
 tuner? Will it make a grilled cheese? I think that one of the
 durability tests you might include would be to go over to Perth
 airport and have some of the baggage boys dribble one of those
 Prestos across the tarmack like they do here in the US. Matter of
 fact, we could use Brian's case beings it looks so much like a
 basketball. G

 Taterboy

 On Mar 5, 5:27 pm, Paul Duff pd...@globaldial.com wrote:
  Hi Mark

  I worked with Presto on the design of this case and one of my priorities
  was to add 1/2 either side of the peghead to eliminate any outside chance
  of the mandolin receiving the 'involuntary Monroe option'. The pockets
  also holds a set of mandolin strings laying flat. It has lots of space for
  other stuff too.

  Paul

  - Original Message -
  From: Mark Seale
  To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:56 PM
  Subject: Re: New Presto (Crush) Case

  That's a good looking case. I've heard horror stories about the Calton and
  headstock rearrangements. Does this case suffer from the same or is the
  interior design different?

  Mark

  On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Brian Ray dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Mr. Duff has sent me pictures of my new Presto case (Orange Crush
  style). These are the new shaped cases with all the accoutrements...
  It's coming soon stuffed full of Vegemite!

  Anyway, thought y'all might be interested in a peek. I'm not sure how
  the group handles picture attachments, so if the images are not
  below, I'll upload and link in a subsequent post.

  Brian
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Re: New Presto (Crush) Case

2009-03-05 Thread Dasspunk

I'll let you know Mark...

B

On Mar 5, 8:56 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's a good looking case.  I've heard horror stories about the Calton and
 headstock rearrangements.  Does this case suffer from the same or is the
 interior design different?

 Mark

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Brian Ray dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Mr. Duff has sent me pictures of my new Presto case (Orange Crush
  style). These are the new shaped cases with all the accoutrements...
  It's coming soon stuffed full of Vegemite!

  Anyway, thought y'all might be interested in a peek. I'm not sure how
  the group handles picture attachments, so if the images are not
  below, I'll upload and link in a subsequent post.

  Brian
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Happy Birthday Mr. Tate R. Bug

2009-02-27 Thread Dasspunk

Since it is not a leap year, Sir-Spuds-A-Lot will be officially one
year older tomorrow.

Happy early birthday Mike.

Brian


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Re: Mobile Website Geekdom

2009-02-25 Thread Dasspunk

Does that mean I am master of half I survey?

That == Cool!

B



On Feb 25, 1:45 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Spunkie,
 Unless I recall incorrectly, you are 1/2 'taterdom'.
 Bugs

 On Feb 24, 8:21 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks all for the help everyone. And thanks for the bug reports. It
  was a good learning project... it will be funny if folks ever bump
  into it and it's interesting to see who has mobile sites set up.

  The funny thing about the tornado warning was that just after our set,
  there was a tornado a few miles down the road :) It's not totally
  obvious in the video but the wind was WHIPPING. Funny stuff.

  TITSH is great fun (for it's members anyway) and I'm lucky to have
  found some good folks to pick with.

  Anyway, thanks again. And now, back to our regularly scheduled
  Taterdom...

  B

  On Feb 24, 7:02 pm, Terry W. Harvey terwaha...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hey Brian,
   Very cool indeed, am on my ipod touch right now, site works great.
   Nice job on Southern Flavor!!

   On Feb 24, 10:32 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

But I find myself an extremely flexible (and downright handsome)
customer. I listen to almost everything I say!

B

On Feb 24, 12:30 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

 No sir. I said I hate designing...

 B

 On Feb 24, 10:56 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

  Design? Did he say design? I thought you told me you couldn't
  design, boy. Nabbed!
  T

  On Feb 23, 8:30 pm, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

   As you suspected, it looks great on an iPhone and kicked to the 
   mobile
   site without hesitation. The only feedback is that the gallery 
   kicked
   me to my picasa acct with my own gallery and I didn't see an 
   option to
   get to your gallery.

   The design looks great.

   Jason
   On 2/23/09, sec...@bellsouth.net sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Works great on my CDMA Motorola Q.
 -- Original message from Dasspunk 
dassp...@gmail.com:
--

I bought an iPod Touch this past weekend and then decided to 
create a
mobile website for (This is the) Squirrel Hunters. Anyway, if 
there
are any mobile websurfers here in the land of Tater, might 
y'all take
a peek and see that it works okay for you?

The main site (http://titsh.com) should detect a mobile device 
and
kick you tohttp://titsh.com/m/.

It probably only looks good on an iPhone/Touch... but I'm 
curious how
it handles other devices. And if you're NOT on a mobile and it 
kicks
you to the /m/ folder, I'd want to know for sure.

Thanks,
Brian
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Re: Mobile Website Geekdom

2009-02-24 Thread Dasspunk

No sir. I said I hate designing...

B

On Feb 24, 10:56 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Design? Did he say design? I thought you told me you couldn't
 design, boy. Nabbed!
 T

 On Feb 23, 8:30 pm, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

  As you suspected, it looks great on an iPhone and kicked to the mobile
  site without hesitation. The only feedback is that the gallery kicked
  me to my picasa acct with my own gallery and I didn't see an option to
  get to your gallery.

  The design looks great.

  Jason
  On 2/23/09, sec...@bellsouth.net sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:

   Works great on my CDMA Motorola Q.
    -- Original message from Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com:
   --

   I bought an iPod Touch this past weekend and then decided to create a
   mobile website for (This is the) Squirrel Hunters. Anyway, if there
   are any mobile websurfers here in the land of Tater, might y'all take
   a peek and see that it works okay for you?

   The main site (http://titsh.com) should detect a mobile device and
   kick you tohttp://titsh.com/m/.

   It probably only looks good on an iPhone/Touch... but I'm curious how
   it handles other devices. And if you're NOT on a mobile and it kicks
   you to the /m/ folder, I'd want to know for sure.

   Thanks,
   Brian
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Re: Mobile Website Geekdom

2009-02-24 Thread Dasspunk

But I find myself an extremely flexible (and downright handsome)
customer. I listen to almost everything I say!

B



On Feb 24, 12:30 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 No sir. I said I hate designing...

 B

 On Feb 24, 10:56 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

  Design? Did he say design? I thought you told me you couldn't
  design, boy. Nabbed!
  T

  On Feb 23, 8:30 pm, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

   As you suspected, it looks great on an iPhone and kicked to the mobile
   site without hesitation. The only feedback is that the gallery kicked
   me to my picasa acct with my own gallery and I didn't see an option to
   get to your gallery.

   The design looks great.

   Jason
   On 2/23/09, sec...@bellsouth.net sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Works great on my CDMA Motorola Q.
 -- Original message from Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com:
--

I bought an iPod Touch this past weekend and then decided to create a
mobile website for (This is the) Squirrel Hunters. Anyway, if there
are any mobile websurfers here in the land of Tater, might y'all take
a peek and see that it works okay for you?

The main site (http://titsh.com) should detect a mobile device and
kick you tohttp://titsh.com/m/.

It probably only looks good on an iPhone/Touch... but I'm curious how
it handles other devices. And if you're NOT on a mobile and it kicks
you to the /m/ folder, I'd want to know for sure.

Thanks,
Brian
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Re: Mobile Website Geekdom

2009-02-24 Thread Dasspunk

Thanks all for the help everyone. And thanks for the bug reports. It
was a good learning project... it will be funny if folks ever bump
into it and it's interesting to see who has mobile sites set up.

The funny thing about the tornado warning was that just after our set,
there was a tornado a few miles down the road :) It's not totally
obvious in the video but the wind was WHIPPING. Funny stuff.

TITSH is great fun (for it's members anyway) and I'm lucky to have
found some good folks to pick with.

Anyway, thanks again. And now, back to our regularly scheduled
Taterdom...

B


On Feb 24, 7:02 pm, Terry W. Harvey terwaha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Brian,
 Very cool indeed, am on my ipod touch right now, site works great.
 Nice job on Southern Flavor!!

 On Feb 24, 10:32 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  But I find myself an extremely flexible (and downright handsome)
  customer. I listen to almost everything I say!

  B

  On Feb 24, 12:30 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

   No sir. I said I hate designing...

   B

   On Feb 24, 10:56 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

Design? Did he say design? I thought you told me you couldn't
design, boy. Nabbed!
T

On Feb 23, 8:30 pm, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

 As you suspected, it looks great on an iPhone and kicked to the mobile
 site without hesitation. The only feedback is that the gallery kicked
 me to my picasa acct with my own gallery and I didn't see an option to
 get to your gallery.

 The design looks great.

 Jason
 On 2/23/09, sec...@bellsouth.net sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:

  Works great on my CDMA Motorola Q.
   -- Original message from Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com:
  --

  I bought an iPod Touch this past weekend and then decided to 
  create a
  mobile website for (This is the) Squirrel Hunters. Anyway, if there
  are any mobile websurfers here in the land of Tater, might y'all 
  take
  a peek and see that it works okay for you?

  The main site (http://titsh.com) should detect a mobile device and
  kick you tohttp://titsh.com/m/.

  It probably only looks good on an iPhone/Touch... but I'm curious 
  how
  it handles other devices. And if you're NOT on a mobile and it 
  kicks
  you to the /m/ folder, I'd want to know for sure.

  Thanks,
  Brian
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Re: regionalism (long-winded and rambling)

2009-02-18 Thread Dasspunk

Personally, I'm a fan of mustard greens... and had many a helping as I
carpet bagged down in the land of Tater (old times there are not
forgotten, look away...).

If you are what you eat... do you play what you hear? That is to say,
playing a style well, requires listening to the style. If this is so,
I would think this collared greens theory would have had more merit
back in the day... before recordings and such. Recordings would allow
more non-regional folk, and even more interestingly, more not-yet-
living folk, to listen and learn. To this, I would like to thank those
sons-a-bitch recording pioneers that screwed nice musical folk out of
royalties and such for their own gains... and my gain 'cause it allows
me to own the recordings. Thanks bastards!

And this will be nothing to what the web can offer. Take Mr. Tate R.
Bug for example. That boy's been given lessons over them internets for
years now. I'd call him a trailblazer (among other things). Who'd a
thunk it (besides me I guess)? He's spreading his collared greens all
over the world, live and in person... and all this without having to
leave his house. Amazing really...

B



On Feb 18, 12:18 pm, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mike H, if you ever get a chance to catch The secret lives of
 banjos, you should. It's a show put together by Jody Stecher and Bill
 Evans and includes a great story about Arctic explorations, banjos and
 penguins ... It also shows the broad reach of the instrument. They use
 something Iike 27 banjos in their show and demonstrate convincingly
 that the banjo has a wild and well-traveled history.

 Meanwhile, for my $.02, I think we can play outside our immediate
 zones, just as we listen outside those zones, given sufficient will
 and passion/obsession. It's a matter of relating to the underlying
 emotion. Music really is generated from just a few main themes --
 love, death, god, events, work  -- mixed and matched as appropriate,
 and we can relate to these themes, even if the specifics (collard
 greens) are foreign. Granted there is music that is outside my ken
 (Chinese opera, for example), but I suspect that if I wanted to and
 had a spare lifetime to mess around with it, I could tackle anything
 that moved me. But being moved by it is the key. Just look at some of
 our Japanese old-time musician friends who play great, with scrupulous
 regard for the channels the music has come through. Of course, the
 farther you are from the source, the harder it is to pick up the
 nuances, rhythmic and otherwise, but I don't buy the you-gotta-have-
 been-born-there notion, nor do I think the music died with some past
 generation. Many young people are playing it well, with great
 attention to detail and history, and not-so-young people like me are
 still working at playing it, and that's a good thing, I think. But
 then I've spent much of my life in zones where the frost-free date
 skated to the end of June (or where other climatic realities dominate)
 so I'm hardly any sort of argument for regional authenticity. best,
 val

 On Feb 18, 11:19 am, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote:

  Tater tater tater tater tate-
  Your post was about ethnic groups and then there was a sentence about
  Chicago.  I drank a cup of coffee and read a big chunk of a book (Making the
  second ghetto - race and housing in chicago 1940-1960) that I really should
  have already finished yesterday before working on music.  The chapter I left
  half finished was on white ethnic neighborhoods in Chicago.  Then the coffee
  actually started working and I picked up my mandolin and was playing and
  listening to stuff on my computer whence I should have been doing homwork.
   That lead to reading this mailing list and thus your post, reminding me
  about white ethnic groups and Chicago and that I should be reading that
  book.  I guess I should have just left the response in my head!  Sorry for
  leading us off track.

  On another note, I was once told that NJ was a hotbed of classical banjo
  activity.  I also just read an account of a North Pole expedition that
  mentioned banjos AND accordions playing home sweet home while in the arctic.
   I think banjos were everywhere.  Fred Van Eps and Vess Ossman both lived
  here and played extensively in Asbury Park, but certainly not old-time
  music.  My dad always calls our local area banjo land because he gets
  frustrated at the inability to think liberally at school board meetings and
  such.  I always get mad and remind him that it takes a large mind to play a
  banjo.  The banjo gets pigeonholed as a rural, southern thing.  Even a lot
  of the minstrel stuff was written in NYC, and it certainly romanticized the
  south.  There is something about fantasizing about the South for us
  Northerners.  Even Dixie was written up North.  Maybe that is why old-time
  music is so popular up North in New England, MN, and Wisconsin specifically.
   It's cold and in the south it is so warm.  I get jealous 

Re: Success is the best revenge

2009-02-12 Thread Dasspunk

On my scale, a Grammy weighs in about the same as a modicum of belly
button lint. Besides a shiny mantle piece, they are best used to
preface an artist in a speech, article or introduction. And in this,
it is indeed almost exactly the same honor as just being nominated.
Eg. It is my pleasure to introduce, the Grammy nominated, Mr. Tater
Bug. That said, you could win the award for biggest horses ass (but
you'd have to take it from me first) and end up with May I present...
the award winning... Dass Punk. To quote a saying from my youth...
same diff.

What's important to me is not how much money you make but how you
play. I also believe who you are comes through in your music... so
there's that too I guess. And just so there's no misunderstanding...
hell yeah I keep score!

But as is the case with so many things... your millage may vary.
Brian


On Feb 12, 11:06 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Skaggs won the Grammy. So did Alison Krauss and Robert Plant(I hear
 they left Stuart at home, though he certainly was an integral part of
 the sound...ooops. He did get a thankyou). The Steel Drivers got
 left out and they're a damned good band. There you go. Some people
 could break wind and get a hand. Go figger...
 Agi-tater
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Re: Personal YouTube Videos

2009-02-09 Thread Dasspunk

Uh... I've seen some of these videos that include folks' faces and I
would disagree that it's more enjoyable :) And this goes double for
myself.

Brian


On Feb 9, 3:25 pm, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I've done a handful of videos now and people seem to like the videos
 that show more than just a headless mando player.  It's a little more
 enjoyable for the viewer if they can see all of you.

 I'm working on trying to get three tunes recorded and posted.  Hope to
 have them all done by the end of the week but we'll have to wait and
 see.  They are:

 Dusty Miller
 Monroe's Farewell to Longhollow
 Woodchopper's Reel (or Breakdown)

 Feel free to post what you're working on or pick one of those tunes
 and give it a whirl.

 Whaddya think?
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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-04 Thread Dasspunk

I will tell Chirps howdy for you Val.

I've learned a number of tunes just to learn 'em and they've not been
heard from since. I'm sure I'm not alone. Then there are tunes that
I've tried learning only to find I don't care for my version :)
Cumberland Gap was one such tune. I don't care for the 'Grass version
but when I heard Chirps' version, I totally loved it (and talk him
into playing it as often as possible). Arkansas Traveler was the
same... until I heard Rhys Jone's version... now I love it. It took me
forever to find a Sally Goodin I liked... mine's somewhere between
Bill's with a hint of Clarence White. I try and steal from the best
(emphasis on try).

Long story only slightly longer...  you never know what you'll like
tomorrow.

Brian



On Feb 4, 11:27 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Say hi to Chirps for me. He has great tunes. He plays a really good
 Greensleeves (not the tune you think), with the G run down to E. And
 is no slouch on mandolin.

 On Feb 4, 8:20 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  There are two tunes that I refuse to play any more. Blackberry Blossom
  and Whiskey Before Breakfast. These tunes are butchered daily at jams
  everywhere and make my skin crawl. I don't mind when folks play
  them... it's fine beer break music.

  But if the point of having a repertoire is to know songs that you can
  play with others, then those two are probably at the top of the
  list.

  Eek! I just looked at that list on mandozine... sure enough, those are
  some of the most popular tunes I've ever heard at jams. And of course
  my two *favorites* are on there. Whatever... learn 'em all and decide
  for yourself which ones you like.

  I'm currently learning a couple tunes for a dance I'll be playing this
  weekend with Mr. Lynn Chirps Smith. I absolutely love Snake River Reel
  and his tune Mississippi Palisades. Also on tap are Cumberland Gap (OT
  version), Little Dutch Girl (which Sadie Compton does a nice version
  of) and Squirrel Heads And Gravy (which I'm finding difficult to
  transfer to mandolin).

  Brian

  On Feb 3, 1:16 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

   Nelson,
   It seems to me that the list varies depending on where a person hangs
   his hat (which includes geographical location, chosen era of
   'bluegrass', and age group). Dennis comments in jest. I told him once
   that if I had to listen to Red Haired Boy once more time I was going
   to go out and kill something. There are a few more on *that* list as
   well. I will say though, without looking at anyone else's list, that
   some of the more common oldtime fiddle tunes seem to hold up across
   the board, plus there are a few Monroe tunes that seem to carry over.
   I don't think I have a really good grasp of what might be an up-to-
   date list of popular 'bluegrass' tunes because I engage so heavily in
   eclecticism.

   Bugs

   On Feb 3, 1:04 pm, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

Nelson,

Mandozine lists what they consider to be essential mandolin tunes to 
learn.
Here's the link:http://www.mandozine.com/music/essential/

Jason
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Re: hush nbb

2009-02-01 Thread Dasspunk

I dig this song too. I saw the boys do this at the first SuperGrass
out in CA (now defunct). Because of this song, I bought the record
Twenty Year Blues.

B



On Jan 31, 10:37 pm, roy...@aol.com wrote:
 mike, love hush on youtube, where can i get the recording of this, is it on 
 one of the albums

 Denny Wilson
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Re: Secrets of Stradivarius violins discovered

2009-01-23 Thread Dasspunk

Maybe it'll turn orange... :)

B



On Jan 23, 10:04 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm headed to Kroger to get a box of 20 Muleteam Borax and rub on my
 Gilchrists RIGHT NOW...
 Tater

 On Jan 23, 9:13 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Joseph Nagyvary, a professor emeritus of biochemistry at Texas AM
  University, has spent 33 years trying to prove his theory that
  chemicals used on the instruments are responsible for the distinctive
  sounds of the violins, the university reported.

  Tests showed numerous chemicals in the wood, including borax,
  fluorides, chromium and iron salts.

  The presence of these chemicals all points to collaboration between
  the violin makers and the local drugstore and druggist at the time,
  Nagyvary said Thursday in a release. Their probable intent was to
  treat the wood for preservation purposes. Both Stradivari and Guarneri
  would have wanted to treat their violins to prevent worms from eating
  away the wood because worm infestations were very widespread at that
  time.

 http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2009/01/22/Secrets_of_Stradivarius_vi...
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Re: Micing a mandolin for recording

2009-01-21 Thread Dasspunk

Lol... I warned you :)

I've played around with many a mic but for the money, I've not found
anything that sounded better, nor was more versatile than the Shure
KSM32. I bought one and fell in love with the sound. I've seen them in
use almost everywhere and for good reason. They sound great on a
variety of instruments and vocals. I'm a geek for mics but only for so
far. Eventually, I just want them to work and sound great. These mics
work for me in that capacity.

For our live one mic setup, we use two. One up and one down. The
band loves 'em. I love 'em. Done deal. But as always, your millage may
vary...

Brian



On Jan 21, 7:24 am, Jonas Mattebo jonas.matt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting!
 What is so special about this mic? I am intruiged!

 (The photos were truly a little creepy...)
 /Jonas

 2009/1/20 Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com



  Taking the advice from Spruce (Bruce) that frequents the Mando Cafe, I
  tried, and love, a Shure KSM32 mic 4 from the 12th fret. I love these
  mics on almost everything and I use a pair of them for shows... as can
  be seen in these somewhat creepy photos from a show last Thursday:

 http://picasaweb.google.com/dasspunk/TITSHLiveAtTheFrequency#

  Brian

  On Jan 20, 3:06 am, Jonas Mattebo jonas.matt...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi there,
   I have recently gotten some home recording equipment and am planning to
   record some music, mandolin included. So, I just thought I'd ask some of
  the
   folk here how to mic a mandolin to get the best sound? What kind of mic
  to
   use, how many mics, placement, effects (compressor, reverb and so on)?

   I really like the mandolin sound on 'Stomp', maybe Mike or David
  remembers
   how the mandolins where recorded for that project?

   Thanks for any input,
   /Jonas
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Re: Something to think about...

2009-01-20 Thread Dasspunk

Besides their delicious sea urchins, vegemite, kangaroo scrotes,
monkey paw plants, blow holes, treetop walks, mexican bed bugs,
luggage delivery times, and overall pleasantness, there's not too much
oddness I guess. I mean, there's certainly nothing dickie about
Dickie's pies.

B



On Jan 19, 6:22 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pray tell, oh Wizard of Weirdness, what IS the oddest thing about Oz?
 Sir Spudz

 On Jan 19, 4:48 pm, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Funny, that was heavily requested in the Mormon town of Ramah too. Hmmm.

  On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Paul Duff pd...@globaldial.com wrote:

   Yes it's true, I destinctly remember learning this song at primary school.
   These lyrics, of course set an ethos that has made this great country what
   it is today. A burgeoning nation with 'rivers of alcohol' searching for 
   the
   'jerk who invented work'. Is that odd?

   PD
   - Original Message -
   From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
   To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:54 AM
   Subject: Re: Something to think about...

   We have a winner! Big Rock Candy Mountain... but only because they
   were taught the song as kids and sang along to it. And this is NOT the
   oddest thing about OZ by any means.

   B

   On Jan 18, 6:38 pm, Paul Duff pd...@globaldial.com wrote:
   Well, having been there I think there may have been a couple. Big Rock
   Candy Mountain'?, Sitting' On Top Of The World'? For me though, the big
   'Killer' number was (and I must say Mr T does it so well it hurts)
   'Forever
   Has Come To An End'. Ouch! It's good.

   Paul

   - Original Message -
   From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
   To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:31 AM
   Subject: Re: Something to think about...

   Yea, I'm sort of curious what it was too...
   Tater

   On Jan 13, 1:26 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
Song selection is funny stuff. What would you guess was the big hit
song while Monsignor Tater was down-stroking down under (I'm talking
about Australia... mind out of the gutter!)?

That said, song selection, IMO, is the most underrated attribute of
great musicians. I can think of a number of players that burn up the
fretboard but that can't pick a song to save their life (or their
show... or their records).

Brian

On Jan 12, 2:49 pm, jimberke...@gmail.com jimberke...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Long time lurker. First time poster. I've had a few lessons at the
 Tater Institute of Technology.

 I spent the summer busking on Church Street Marketplace in 
 Burlington,
 VT with my mandolin, guitar, banjo-uke, and harp. It was a great
 experience that I recommend to any performer. You have to audition to
 get a license to play. There were musicians, mimes, jugglers,
 acrobats, sketch artists, and even a poet for hire. The music ranged
 from a husband and wife clarinet/tuba dixieland combo to fiddle and
 banjo to solo guys like me. No amps were allowed. I had a little
 folding camping stool that I sat on. Some days where tough because I
 would end up on the same block as the guy who rode his unicycle on a
 high-wire while juggling. That's when I would think of Mr. Bell.

 I usually did about two hours before my voice gave out. Without a PA
 you really have to project your playing and singing to get over the
 ambient city noise. After a while I figured out that there were
 certain songs that were big money makers.

 You Are My Sunshine on the mandolin was huge. It would be
 interesting to see if Tater played it whether you would have a Joshua
 Bell situation where people would be completely oblivious to what was
 going on.

 Boston has a lot of music at the T(subway) stops. High turnover of
 customers. When I was younger I used to watch this little blonde girl
 named Mary Lou Lord at Park Street sing Syd Barrett songs. She told 
 me
 about her boyfriend in Seattle and that I should meet him when he 
 came
 to Boston with his band to play. I never made the show but when the
 mood struck him he played a old D-18 and did a pretty mean version of
 In the Pines :)

 Regards,
 Jim Berkeley

 On Jan 12, 10:52 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is a very astute point. Setting up in the subway where your
  potential
  listeners are bound to a schedule isn't a recipe for general
  success.
  But,
  if you set up in an area where people are spending free time, you
  stand a
  much better chance of catching their less focused attention. Some 
  of
  the
  biggest fiddlers' contests we've had, in terms of listeners, have
  been
  in
  shopping malls.

  On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Trey Young email_t

Re: Micing a mandolin for recording

2009-01-20 Thread Dasspunk

Taking the advice from Spruce (Bruce) that frequents the Mando Cafe, I
tried, and love, a Shure KSM32 mic 4 from the 12th fret. I love these
mics on almost everything and I use a pair of them for shows... as can
be seen in these somewhat creepy photos from a show last Thursday:

http://picasaweb.google.com/dasspunk/TITSHLiveAtTheFrequency#

Brian



On Jan 20, 3:06 am, Jonas Mattebo jonas.matt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there,
 I have recently gotten some home recording equipment and am planning to
 record some music, mandolin included. So, I just thought I'd ask some of the
 folk here how to mic a mandolin to get the best sound? What kind of mic to
 use, how many mics, placement, effects (compressor, reverb and so on)?

 I really like the mandolin sound on 'Stomp', maybe Mike or David remembers
 how the mandolins where recorded for that project?

 Thanks for any input,
 /Jonas
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Re: It Was Bound to Happen Sooner or Later...

2009-01-04 Thread Dasspunk

1/8th inch mandolin crop circles do happen all the time, they're just
not widely reported.

:)

Brian



On Jan 3, 2:10 pm, malagrass malayt...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 A friend loaned me his Ratliff F5, he never played it and it was brand
 new. He wanted me to open it up for a while, apparently he bought it
 as a show piece. Anyway, I didn't really like the instrument and only
 took it out of the case a couple times although it was in my home for
 a while. The day I was to return the mandolin I wanted to make sure it
 was clean and found 10 holes about 1/8 deep in its back...talk
 about a sick feeling. At first I thought that maybe they were there
 from when I picked it up. Wrong..

 I still don't know how they got there but I strongly suspect my 4 year
 old daughter and her rudimentary mechanical skills.  I offered to buy
 it, unbelievably I still have it while the gibby's in the shop and its
 turning out to be a nice instrument. I'm actually surprised how much
 its opened up over the last month.

 I guess mas strikes when you least expect it.

 JM

 On Jan 1, 10:33 pm, Paul Duff pd...@globaldial.com wrote:

  TBug

  After careful consideration and much thought, I have decided to (for a small
  fee of course) put in the extra effort and supply the first gouge to any new
  orders that may request it.

  Options may includeThe 'Involuntary Monroe Option', the 'Beer Craze',
  the 'Jilted Girlfriend/Lover nail varnish remover splatter'.

  All 'First Ding' options come with a guaranteed cringe factor and will
  provide years of guilt free playing.

  Paul

  - Original Message -
  From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
  To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 3:56 AM
  Subject: Re: It Was Bound to Happen Sooner or Later...

  I was told a story about a fellow up north of here that owns/owned a
  pre-war Martin D45...yea, one of the real ones...pristine, mint
  condition. Well, he babied the guitar to a fault. I mean, who wouldn't
  really, considering what they're worth? Anyway, his toddler daughter
  had been trying really hard one day to get his attention and he just
  kept messing with that Martin. So somewhere along the way she spotted
  his car keys laying around and she picked them up and hurled them at
  him to get his attention. You guessed it...they landed square in the
  middle of the top of his D45. Can you say gouge boys and girls? I
  think the guy's priorities changed right on the spot, especially when
  he found himself holding his daughter up in the air. It is, after all,
  only a guitar.

  These things get REAL complicated sometimes, and right quick too G.
  Spec Tater

  On Dec 28, 5:21 am, SteveV st...@senatorgroup.com.au wrote:
   I'm expecting a new 2009 Duff in a few months and just can't wait but
   it's always hairy waiting for that first 'scratch' or ding. I was on a
   music trip in New Zealand last May and the van we had was packed to
   the rafters. We arived at our hotel for the night and with band and
   family in the van, the small things got crammed in the back. Luckily I
   only had a rough A model with me because as soon as someone
   carefully opened the back door, out she popped to the road and it
   sounded bad. It was just inside a padded bag and on closer inspection,
   the cracks were there. It got me through but I was huffin and puffin
   that night! Luckily it wasn't the new (at the time)Eastman.

   The Holstein Kid

   On Dec 21, 6:09 am, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:

One of the advantages to pickin' on a nice A5!! ;-)

Sorry to hear that Tater. I haven't put a good scratch or dentin mine
just yet. But I kow it's coming!
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Re: Jenny Lind

2008-12-18 Thread Dasspunk

I'D buy one of them Jenny Lind bills from you Jonas, if I might

Brian


On Dec 18, 1:04 am, Jonas Mattebo jonas.matt...@gmail.com wrote:
 50 kronor is about 7 US dollars. I can get you one if you'd like!

 /Jonas

 2008/12/18 mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com



  Hey Jonas,
  How much is a kronor? I'll take one of those Jenny Lind bills...
  Tater

  On Dec 16, 12:12 pm, Jonas Mattebo jonas.matt...@gmail.com wrote:
   Cool! I never knew that. I gotta learn that tune now!
   She is also pictured on our Swedish 50 kronor bills:

    pastedGraphic.tiff
   1303KViewDownload

   16 dec 2008 kl. 17.39 skrev Fred:

Jah man--that's the one.  Extraordinarily famous woman in her time. PT
Barnum had her in his show for a time.  She even had a locomotive
named
for her:

   http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RAjenny.htm

The article itself is quite interesting but this bit about a famous
soprano named Jenny Lind was especially interesting. This would have
to be the Jenny Lind that inspired the fiddle tune of the same
name... no? Anyone?
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Re: Southern Flavor

2008-12-16 Thread Dasspunk

Southern Flavor is one of my favs... but as Sir-Spuds-Alot would point
out, I am playing it wrong :)

B



On Dec 14, 12:23 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Terry,
 You're right about the stage routine. It sort of turned into part of
 the act after a while. I'm not sure when the tune was actually
 written, but it's from around in there. I'd have to check to be sure.
 Did you ever learn it?
 Tater

 On Dec 10, 4:24 pm, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Not sure, but I think it was written around 1988.   Tater may know for sure.
   
  I don't think the mic. slipped down.  Bill used to do that in his shows.  
  He would move the mic down and then bend over as he was playing the last 
  round of Southern Flavor and the other members of the band would ask each 
  other what he was doing.  Then the last one would say He's getting down 
  just as he played the last part of the song.  I guess they forgot to do 
  their part on this show.

  --- On Wed, 12/10/08, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

  From: Linda lj...@intas.net.au
  Subject: Southern Flavor
  To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 4:49 PM

  I just watched this You Tune video again...
  I love this tune.

 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=9NcCgsAMxhsfeature=related

  Something happens mid-tune and Monroe ..in his advanced years... bends
  down right spry like to get his mandolin in the right spot for the
  microphone to pick up his sound.  I guess the microphone must have
  slipped down.  Shows just how professional he was.   I wonder if there
  was a big laugh after or some colorful language?  Does anyone know
  when this tune was written??
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Jenny Lind

2008-12-16 Thread Dasspunk

I was reading an interesting article over at the Newstatesman about
the trials and tribulations musicians have faced throughout history...
and I came across an interesting tidbit...

http://www.newstatesman.com/music/2008/12/public-century-composers

In the course of the 19th century, ever- growing markets, bigger
spaces for music and better communications allowed many more
performers to make much more money. Sopranos, especially, became rich
beyond the dreams of avarice of even the most famous singers of the
past. Between September 1850 and June 1851 Jenny Lind, the Swedish
Nightingale, gave 95 concerts in the United States, earning $176,675
net of all expenses. Moreover, all along the way she was feted as a
queen. Had she lived long enough to take advantage of the invention of
recording, her colossal fortune might well have been multiplied many
times over. In 1914, Enrico Caruso was earning £20,000 a year from
world sales of his records, which may even have increased ten fold
after 1918.

The article itself is quite interesting but this bit about a famous
soprano named Jenny Lind was especially interesting. This would have
to be the Jenny Lind that inspired the fiddle tune of the same
name... no? Anyone?

Bueller?

B
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Re: subject Worst fiddle tune name...

2008-12-08 Thread Dasspunk

My favorite would have to be Shove The Pig's Foot a Little Further
Into the Fire. Great name for a great tune. Translates well to mando
too!

This, from the guy who named his band (This is the) Squirrel
Hunters.

B



On Dec 8, 8:07 am, mistertaterbug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes ma'am. There are a lot of made up and somewhat off-color song
 titles floating around out there (such as Sweet Ass in the Piney
 Woods the old Lonesome Pine Fiddlers tune) and of course bastardized
 titles of known fiddle tunes. Some don't bear repeating in polite
 company. I mean, if you're in the middle of a 10-12 hour drive and
 looking for things to do, it's fun to come up with your own titles.
 Say the tunes Spider Bit the Baby or Indian Killed a Woodcock  or
 Monkey in the Dogcart. Take a look at the formula...Noun, verb,
 noun. Or you might want to go with more detail as in Jenny Ran Away
 in the Mud in the Night. I also hear that Bob Wills and band wrote a
 lot of verses to Take Me Back to Tulsa that are a bit racy. Boys
 will be boys...

 Tater

 On Dec 8, 12:18 am, Linda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yes Indeed, I bet you have more interesting titles up your sleeve than
  a centipede has legs.
  sir.

  On Dec 8, 3:25 pm, mistertaterbug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Uhm, I better just stay outa this oneG.
   Tater

   On Dec 6, 7:34 pm, Mandoyak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ha! That easily trumps!

On Dec 6, 4:49 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My favorite one is still Dog Shit A Rye Straw.

  On Sat 12/ 6/08 11:32 AM , Mandoyak [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

  Stumbled across these fiddle tunes:

  Maggots In The Sheep Hide and Snouts  Ears of America

  Uh...gross. Neat tunes, bad names.
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Re: Charlie Poole

2008-11-16 Thread Dasspunk

Agreed. You can get box set for cheap over at tower records:

http://www.tower.com/you-aint-talkin-me-charlie-poole-roots-country-cd/wapi/105908753

You won't be disappointed... great stuff.

Brian



On Nov 16, 2:10 am, Mike Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the JSP box set will about do the trick.  It is the kind of thing that you
 just have to hear!  The letter that never came, he rambled, don't let your
 deal go down, the baltimore fire, milwaukee blues, I'm the man that rode the
 mule around the world, mountain reel, ragtime annie, you ain't talking to
 methe group recorded a ton of music and it is all great, most of it is
 on the JSP box.  The box set is called You Ain't Talking To Me and is
 named after the song of that name which has some of the best words ever
 written.
 On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Sally and Nelson Peddycoart 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I know there are some big fans of this guy on the group, but I have to
  admit, that I am not familiar with him.

  I started reading about him yesterday.  The article I read said that he
  was a direct influence (vocally) on Hank Williams and Bill Monroe, two of my
  big favorites.

  Would anyone be willing to offer info on him?  What should I know, what
  are the must have cds, etc?

  Thanks,

  Nelson
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Re: Top mandolin must-listen tracks

2008-11-12 Thread Dasspunk

I never get tired of hearing stories about Hartford.

B

On Nov 12, 10:19 am, mistertaterbug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mike,
 One more thing on Hartford and I'm done...
 I spent about 2/3 of the time I worked for John either being primary
 or secondary bus driver. More times than not, we'd drive to find a
 fiddle jam someplace before the day was out. If we were anywhere near
 a riverboat or an oldtime fiddler, that's where we went before the
 gig. If there was no gig for the day, we might spend all day in a
 fiddle jam or riding down the river. I was privileged to meet some of
 the legends in both oldtime and contest fiddle styles thanks to John's
 love and pursuit of it. I only wish I'd paid closer attention to what
 I was being exposed to.

 John told me that when he first got the bus, he wouldn't put his name
 in the marquis up front and he wouldn't park near the gigs because he
 was self-conscious of the spectacle the bus provided and he had to
 more or less grow into it. For us, the bus was our home on wheels. We
 didn't get hotels. We lived on the bus once we left John's driveway.
 It's where all the instruments and clothes and coffee pot and and
 songbooks and derbys and toilet was. Should it have been left down the
 block so as to not appear haughty?

 Tater

 On Nov 11, 6:16 pm, Mike Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This past week my friend played me a version he worked up of Sweet Petunia
  Stomp on the banjolin, and tater, it was butt-kicking!  I think he learned
  it from Bogan Martin and Armstrong.
  About the bus.  I brought up John Hartford as the number one reason I got
  into playing music and old-time in particular at an old-time jam here in
  Jersey and the fellow I was talking with lost respect for John Hartford
  when he saw him play at the local community college and John showed up in a
  bus.  I related my feelings on the issue.  If I were to write gentle on my
  mind and wanted use that money stream to drive around the country playing
  music for people I would definitely want to do it comfortably and in a large
  bus.  You are right tradition can be guarded too much.  r

  Frank wakefield gave me a key one time to playing comfortably in different
  keys.  It was the chord shape like this.  For the key of C, first finger on
  the first string third fret (g) and third finger on the second string
  seventh fret (e)  out of this position a melody can be played ending with
  the pinky on the c note on the first string and you can also work easily
  down to the first finger on the third fret of the second string (c) and the
  second finger on the d string fifth fret (g)

  After learning this he taught me some stuff in F with the same chord
  position moved vertically up a set of strings.  I went back home and watched
  a fiddler playing in f using his pinky instead of third finger to get the
  note in that first double stop and reasoned that the pinky can be played
  out of like that in c too.  When I just started learning E-Flat I took this
  position in F and moved it back towards the nut two frets.  the second
  double stop that I like in this position in Eb is the first finger on the
  d string first fret (Eb) and the second finger on the g string third fret
  (Bb)  that g-string gets a lot of play with the open g note, Bb note third
  fret, C note fifth fret, and blues note sixth fret and open d string.

  Boy that all made sense in my head.
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Re: The Devil's Box

2008-10-10 Thread Dasspunk

Like a fox...



On Oct 9, 10:44 am, mistertaterbug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone ever heard the story going around that one of the prominent
 classical composers supposedly wrote Fisher's Hornpipe on a
 commission due to being in a tight and needing cash? Seems like I
 heard it from John Hartford and I forget which one of the lot he said
 wrote the tune for Mr. Fisher(who else). The tale goes that the job
 was taken under the stipulation that the composer's name never got
 mentioned because he simply loathed that type of music, considered
 it low class. I don't know if there's any truth in it, but it's a fun
 story nevertheless.

 Sort of like having to play Fox on the Run or Orange Blossom
 Special for the 500th time...
 Tater

 On Oct 8, 2:48 pm, 14strings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Seems like a bunch of us are into old time fiddlin' so I thought I
  might mention a great book on the subject: The Devil's Box by the
  late Charles Wolf. You may know Charles Wolf from various Monroe
  writings. He's got a great easy-going writing style.

  I was amazed by how many 'sides' those guys used to sell and the
  popularity of fiddling contests back then. Thousands of spectators
  would show up

  Talk about key changes...Clayton McMichen used to run Fisher's
  Hornpipe through F, Bflat, G, D, and back to F in one performance!

  I'm dizzy thinking about it :)

  Perry
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