Agreed. I usually look the other way when talented kids use a good tune as a springboard to launch a flurry of self gratifying notes without regard for their need or appropriateness within the tune. It's an extremely common phenomenon that I call this --pardon the term-- musical masturbation. I look the other way because they're kids after all and it often takes a bit of age to go from being *able* to play really well, to actually knowing *how* to play.
Unfortunately, I could probably guess who some of their teachers have been and some, though they've not been kids for 30-40+ years, condone and practice musical masturbation regularly. I don't mean to pick on the kids but I would like to see this cycle discontinued. The truth is I'm selfishly desperate for it to change because I want to hear some new, truly great music and settling for circus antics and musical masturbation is robbing me of the chance. I would challenge these immensely talented kids to dig deeper and really learn how to play. Brian On Jan 3, 6:49 pm, Mark Seale <mark.se...@gmail.com> wrote: > No doubt all great players. But, if I walked into the room while Joliff was > playing the first tune on this clip, I would not have known it was > Mississippi Waltz, and I play the tune! And on Old Daingerfield with Alex, > again really done well, but why the need to separate the 3rd part? Because > you can agree to do it? It didn't add anything to what is a great tune. I > enjoyed a lot of the tune development within the tune, but to me it just got > disjointed by creating that space. But, that's just me... :) > > Mark > > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Trey Young <email_t...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ > > > here is one such clip > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Trey Young <email_t...@yahoo.com> > > *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield > > > there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the > > youtube... > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* "mandoho...@comcast.net" <mandoho...@comcast.net> > > *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield > > > Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon. Jake is a > > Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston. > > He plays in "Joy Kills Sorrow" with bunch of young musical terrorists, all > > very good, but the language is not > > familiar to me. I know, I'm old. Alex is a junior in high school from > > Corvalis, Oregon. The poor kid doesn't even have a band > > of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished a > > nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band' I just > > hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school. > > > Clyde Clevenger > > Just My Opinion, But It's Right > > Salem, Oregon > > Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Terry Harvey" <terwaha...@gmail.com> > > To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:53:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > > Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield > > > We just saw Alex H. (the fiddler) with the David Grisman Quintet @ The > > Freight & Salvage in Beserkely on Dec 26th. > > That kid can bow a fiddle!! Who's the mando wunderkind? > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Burnette <bburne...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Very impressive. > > >> Bill in Nashville > > >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:30 AM, <mandoho...@comcast.net> wrote: > > >>> This ain't exactly like Tater or Bill would have played this, but it > >>> was fun to see tonight. > > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMMK3QI4VHg > > >>> Clyde Clevenger > >>> Just My Opinion, But It's Right > >>> Salem, Oregon > >>> Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle> > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Taterbugmando" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > >>> legroups.com> > >>> . > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Taterbugmando" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > >> legroups.com> > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > -- > > "Its never too late to be what we might have been" > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > legroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > legroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > legroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > legroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Taterbugmando" group. 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