Re: My first video post

2010-10-07 Thread Mark Halpin
Good on you sir!

On Oct 1, 4:33 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 All,

 After going to Monroe Camp this year and (again) being too shy to jam,
 I came up with a multi-faceted plan to make myself get better and more
 comfortable with people hearing my playing.  Part of that plan is a
 commitment I made to myself to post a YouTube video on the last day of
 each month whether it is ready or not.  This provides an incentive for
 me to keep a steady work pace and to get accustomed to criticism.

 My first attempt is herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4Chu3iR7M

 I will admit that it is still a bit rough, but I am keeping my pledge
 to myself and welcome any honest comments you have.

 Thanks,
 Nelson

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Re: My first video post

2010-10-03 Thread mistertaterbug
Yea Nelson. I knew you'd get it. Try playing a bit more of a rhythm
accent in your tremolo line. That should even you out some. And tuck
that index finger in. It'll change the angle your wrist will do the
work.

Tbug

On Sep 30, 9:33 pm, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 All,

 After going to Monroe Camp this year and (again) being too shy to jam,
 I came up with a multi-faceted plan to make myself get better and more
 comfortable with people hearing my playing.  Part of that plan is a
 commitment I made to myself to post a YouTube video on the last day of
 each month whether it is ready or not.  This provides an incentive for
 me to keep a steady work pace and to get accustomed to criticism.

 My first attempt is herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4Chu3iR7M

 I will admit that it is still a bit rough, but I am keeping my pledge
 to myself and welcome any honest comments you have.

 Thanks,
 Nelson

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Re: My first video post

2010-10-02 Thread taurodont
Old Daingerfield in A is good.  I bet Terry's on board with that one.
Perhaps an E or G or D or C or F tune next...

Terry, glad you didn't skin your sidearm on me for not maintaining
proper speed.  Lucky I just got off with a warning...


On Oct 2, 12:01 am, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 I like John's suggestion of a list.  I'd like to nominate Old Daingerfield as 
 the first one.  Is that o.k.?
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



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 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 20:33:43
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 Subject: Re: My first video post

 I have huge problems finding folks I can sit in with cause they all
 play so fast, tunes I don't know, mainly old time tunes, the list is
 so big I don't know where to start, and their take is not how I hear
 it sometimes too.  I am finding playing along with Monroe a great
 boon.  Agree too about learning a few tunes in each key and learning
 the licks and playing from chord positions is a great way to go.
 There are some speed freaks out there who think its only good at top
 speed, while I tend to think the right speed for the tune is the goal
 (local observation).

 I have been working on Old Ebenezer Scrooge for about a year, and
 finally am close to something worth recording, also Arkansas Traveler,
 but have not heard a Monroe version of that.  Just about have Lonesome
 Moonlight Waltz and would love to work on a list as suggested, for a
 year to see what can be achieved.

 Thank you Nelson for starting this thread and sharing and thanks also
 to everyone contributing, good insights for developing players, who
 need to build enough to feel good enough to sit in with others.  Its
 no good to just sit there completely overwhelmed and lost.  The
 comments are all so supportive and positive.  So good to see.  Seems
 video production could help with performance issues like turning into
 wood when someone is watching, etc.  The best thing I have done for
 myself there is to just play, anyway, and wear it, warts and all, get
 over it and move on.  Waiting here for the day I can saybeen
 there, done that...and am totally over it
 Linda

 On Oct 2, 12:14 pm, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Good job Nelson!

   I agree with Don, just do it!  The best way to learn is to play with 
  people.  If you mess up, so what?  Everybody does.  Hell, I mess up more 
  than I get right.  That's just part of the learning process. 

  I also agree with John.  Try playing along with Monroe or Mike on a 
  recording.  It will help you with your timing.  That cd isn't going to stop 
  if you  goof, so you'll learn to keep up.  You can slow it down if you need 
  to in order to learn the tune, but after you do,  practice at full speed.  

  Also, try learning several tunes in each key.  G, C. D, A, ect.   By 
  learning that many tunes you will remember licks from each key.  Then if 
  you are jamming and they play a tune in G that you really don't know, you 
  might can use some of the licks you remember from the ones you do know.   A 
  lot of the stuff you did in Bluegrass Special, you will find in other 
  Monroe tunes if you listen. 

  And for John.  I will no longer remark about the speed of tunes.  I am no 
  longer a speed cop..I'm retired!..lol

  Just my .02 for what its worth.

  Terry
  --- On Fri, 10/1/10, taurodont jgardin...@roadrunner.com wrote:

  From: taurodont jgardin...@roadrunner.com
  Subject: Re: My first video post
  To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 9:03 PM

  Looks like you held out on us at Monroe camp Nelson.  I don't think
  that will happen again. This sounds good for the most part. Has the
  bounce.  The tremolo needs loosened up some, which is very hard at
  that speed.   I don't think I could do it quite like I'd like to hear
  it myself.  The timing is great buts gets a little waggly during that
  part.  Try playing with a Monroe recording and doing some double-stop
  tremolo over the whole thing and inject the Monroe pulse in the
  tremolo, to keep that groove going.  Does Mike sanction this pick
  grip?  Good job Nelson.  If I ever get a chance to record some I'll
  expect similiar treatment.

  Got an idea for a Nelson jam skewering next year: Pick about 8-10
  songs you will be comfortable playing by next year.  They don't have
  to be full speed, unless Terry is watching. Some Monroe wrote, some
  trad. tunes he did, etc.  Let us know so we can work 'em up too.
  We'll do them all in one sitting and in between each one we will throw
  in one you don't know.  Equal parts familiarity and unfamiliarity.
  Life is too damn short not to jam.  Just have to embrace that feeling
  of falling flat on your ass for a while.  It even happens to the very
  best although much less often. John

  On Oct 1, 1:10 pm

Re: My first video post

2010-10-01 Thread Linda
I like your plan Nelson, I too have been kinda scared of the vid thing
but am thinking on doing something like you ready or not...its fun to
watch someones fingers getting it done..hey?

linda

On Oct 1, 3:29 pm, diptanshu roy diptanshu@gmail.com wrote:
 nice...:)

 On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.comwrote:

  Awesome!

  On Sep 30, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Nelson wrote:

   All,

  After going to Monroe Camp this year and (again) being too shy to jam,
  I came up with a multi-faceted plan to make myself get better and more
  comfortable with people hearing my playing.  Part of that plan is a
  commitment I made to myself to post a YouTube video on the last day of
  each month whether it is ready or not.  This provides an incentive for
  me to keep a steady work pace and to get accustomed to criticism.

  My first attempt is herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4Chu3iR7M

  I will admit that it is still a bit rough, but I am keeping my pledge
  to myself and welcome any honest comments you have.

  Thanks,
  Nelson

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Re: My first video post

2010-10-01 Thread Mike O
Nothing to be shy about there... good one.

Mike O'

On Oct 1, 8:28 am, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:
 I like your plan Nelson, I too have been kinda scared of the vid thing
 but am thinking on doing something like you ready or not...its fun to
 watch someones fingers getting it done..hey?

 linda

 On Oct 1, 3:29 pm, diptanshu roy diptanshu@gmail.com wrote:

  nice...:)

  On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Mike Hoffmann 
  mikehoffma...@gmail.comwrote:

   Awesome!

   On Sep 30, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Nelson wrote:

    All,

   After going to Monroe Camp this year and (again) being too shy to jam,
   I came up with a multi-faceted plan to make myself get better and more
   comfortable with people hearing my playing.  Part of that plan is a
   commitment I made to myself to post a YouTube video on the last day of
   each month whether it is ready or not.  This provides an incentive for
   me to keep a steady work pace and to get accustomed to criticism.

   My first attempt is herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4Chu3iR7M

   I will admit that it is still a bit rough, but I am keeping my pledge
   to myself and welcome any honest comments you have.

   Thanks,
   Nelson

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Re: My first video post

2010-10-01 Thread 14strings
Sounds good Nelson! Also you kept a good groove going; not easy to do
when playing single notes or chords for that matter

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Re: My first video post

2010-10-01 Thread Mark Seale
Mighty fine Nelson!!!

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.netwrote:

 All,

 After going to Monroe Camp this year and (again) being too shy to jam,
 I came up with a multi-faceted plan to make myself get better and more
 comfortable with people hearing my playing.  Part of that plan is a
 commitment I made to myself to post a YouTube video on the last day of
 each month whether it is ready or not.  This provides an incentive for
 me to keep a steady work pace and to get accustomed to criticism.

 My first attempt is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4Chu3iR7M

 I will admit that it is still a bit rough, but I am keeping my pledge
 to myself and welcome any honest comments you have.

 Thanks,
 Nelson

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Re: My first video post

2010-10-01 Thread Trey Young
Good job Nelson!





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Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 11:18:16 AM
Subject: Re: My first video post

Mighty fine Nelson!!!


On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:

All,

After going to Monroe Camp this year and (again) being too shy to jam,
I came up with a multi-faceted plan to make myself get better and more
comfortable with people hearing my playing.  Part of that plan is a
commitment I made to myself to post a YouTube video on the last day of
each month whether it is ready or not.  This provides an incentive for
me to keep a steady work pace and to get accustomed to criticism.

My first attempt is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4Chu3iR7M

I will admit that it is still a bit rough, but I am keeping my pledge
to myself and welcome any honest comments you have.

Thanks,
Nelson

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Re: My first video post

2010-10-01 Thread Don
Nelson,

If you can play that difficult a tune that well, you can jam too.
Nothing to be shy about. You'll learn more by taking chances, getting
lost, making flubs, and recovering in a jam than you do by playing
perfectly. If anyone looks down their nose at you, it's their problem
not yours IMHO.

I've been participating some in the Song A Week group on the mando
cafe (more like one a month for me), and I've learned a lot by
recording videos of my playing. I think you have a good plan, Nelson.

Don

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Re: My first video post

2010-10-01 Thread Terry Bullin
Good job Nelson! 

 I agree with Don, just do it!  The best way to learn is to play with people.  
If you mess up, so what?  Everybody does.  Hell, I mess up more than I get 
right.  That's just part of the learning process.  

I also agree with John.  Try playing along with Monroe or Mike on a recording.  
It will help you with your timing.  That cd isn't going to stop if you  goof, 
so you'll learn to keep up.  You can slow it down if you need to in order to 
learn the tune, but after you do,  practice at full speed.   

Also, try learning several tunes in each key.  G, C. D, A, ect.   By learning 
that many tunes you will remember licks from each key.  Then if you are jamming 
and they play a tune in G that you really don't know, you might can use some of 
the licks you remember from the ones you do know.   A lot of the stuff you did 
in Bluegrass Special, you will find in other Monroe tunes if you listen.  



And for John.  I will no longer remark about the speed of tunes.  I am no 
longer a speed cop..I'm retired!..lol

Just my .02 for what its worth. 


Terry
--- On Fri, 10/1/10, taurodont jgardin...@roadrunner.com wrote:

From: taurodont jgardin...@roadrunner.com
Subject: Re: My first video post
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 9:03 PM

Looks like you held out on us at Monroe camp Nelson.  I don't think
that will happen again. This sounds good for the most part. Has the
bounce.  The tremolo needs loosened up some, which is very hard at
that speed.   I don't think I could do it quite like I'd like to hear
it myself.  The timing is great buts gets a little waggly during that
part.  Try playing with a Monroe recording and doing some double-stop
tremolo over the whole thing and inject the Monroe pulse in the
tremolo, to keep that groove going.  Does Mike sanction this pick
grip?  Good job Nelson.  If I ever get a chance to record some I'll
expect similiar treatment.

Got an idea for a Nelson jam skewering next year: Pick about 8-10
songs you will be comfortable playing by next year.  They don't have
to be full speed, unless Terry is watching. Some Monroe wrote, some
trad. tunes he did, etc.  Let us know so we can work 'em up too.
We'll do them all in one sitting and in between each one we will throw
in one you don't know.  Equal parts familiarity and unfamiliarity.
Life is too damn short not to jam.  Just have to embrace that feeling
of falling flat on your ass for a while.  It even happens to the very
best although much less often. John

On Oct 1, 1:10 pm, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 Thank you, Don.
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 Nelson,

 If you can play that difficult a tune that well, you can jam too.
 Nothing to be shy about. You'll learn more by taking chances, getting
 lost, making flubs, and recovering in a jam than you do by playing
 perfectly. If anyone looks down their nose at you, it's their problem
 not yours IMHO.

 I've been participating some in the Song A Week group on the mando
 cafe (more like one a month for me), and I've learned a lot by
 recording videos of my playing. I think you have a good plan, Nelson.

 Don

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Re: My first video post

2010-10-01 Thread Linda
I have huge problems finding folks I can sit in with cause they all
play so fast, tunes I don't know, mainly old time tunes, the list is
so big I don't know where to start, and their take is not how I hear
it sometimes too.  I am finding playing along with Monroe a great
boon.  Agree too about learning a few tunes in each key and learning
the licks and playing from chord positions is a great way to go.
There are some speed freaks out there who think its only good at top
speed, while I tend to think the right speed for the tune is the goal
(local observation).

I have been working on Old Ebenezer Scrooge for about a year, and
finally am close to something worth recording, also Arkansas Traveler,
but have not heard a Monroe version of that.  Just about have Lonesome
Moonlight Waltz and would love to work on a list as suggested, for a
year to see what can be achieved.

Thank you Nelson for starting this thread and sharing and thanks also
to everyone contributing, good insights for developing players, who
need to build enough to feel good enough to sit in with others.  Its
no good to just sit there completely overwhelmed and lost.  The
comments are all so supportive and positive.  So good to see.  Seems
video production could help with performance issues like turning into
wood when someone is watching, etc.  The best thing I have done for
myself there is to just play, anyway, and wear it, warts and all, get
over it and move on.  Waiting here for the day I can saybeen
there, done that...and am totally over it
Linda





On Oct 2, 12:14 pm, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Good job Nelson!

  I agree with Don, just do it!  The best way to learn is to play with 
 people.  If you mess up, so what?  Everybody does.  Hell, I mess up more than 
 I get right.  That's just part of the learning process. 

 I also agree with John.  Try playing along with Monroe or Mike on a 
 recording.  It will help you with your timing.  That cd isn't going to stop 
 if you  goof, so you'll learn to keep up.  You can slow it down if you need 
 to in order to learn the tune, but after you do,  practice at full speed.  

 Also, try learning several tunes in each key.  G, C. D, A, ect.   By learning 
 that many tunes you will remember licks from each key.  Then if you are 
 jamming and they play a tune in G that you really don't know, you might can 
 use some of the licks you remember from the ones you do know.   A lot of the 
 stuff you did in Bluegrass Special, you will find in other Monroe tunes if 
 you listen. 

 And for John.  I will no longer remark about the speed of tunes.  I am no 
 longer a speed cop..I'm retired!..lol

 Just my .02 for what its worth.

 Terry
 --- On Fri, 10/1/10, taurodont jgardin...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 From: taurodont jgardin...@roadrunner.com
 Subject: Re: My first video post
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 9:03 PM

 Looks like you held out on us at Monroe camp Nelson.  I don't think
 that will happen again. This sounds good for the most part. Has the
 bounce.  The tremolo needs loosened up some, which is very hard at
 that speed.   I don't think I could do it quite like I'd like to hear
 it myself.  The timing is great buts gets a little waggly during that
 part.  Try playing with a Monroe recording and doing some double-stop
 tremolo over the whole thing and inject the Monroe pulse in the
 tremolo, to keep that groove going.  Does Mike sanction this pick
 grip?  Good job Nelson.  If I ever get a chance to record some I'll
 expect similiar treatment.

 Got an idea for a Nelson jam skewering next year: Pick about 8-10
 songs you will be comfortable playing by next year.  They don't have
 to be full speed, unless Terry is watching. Some Monroe wrote, some
 trad. tunes he did, etc.  Let us know so we can work 'em up too.
 We'll do them all in one sitting and in between each one we will throw
 in one you don't know.  Equal parts familiarity and unfamiliarity.
 Life is too damn short not to jam.  Just have to embrace that feeling
 of falling flat on your ass for a while.  It even happens to the very
 best although much less often. John

 On Oct 1, 1:10 pm, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:



  Thank you, Don.
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  -Original Message-
  From: Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com

  Sender: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 10:48:10
  To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Reply-To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: My first video post

  Nelson,

  If you can play that difficult a tune that well, you can jam too.
  Nothing to be shy about. You'll learn more by taking chances, getting
  lost, making flubs, and recovering in a jam than you do by playing
  perfectly. If anyone looks down their nose at you, it's their problem
  not yours IMHO.

  I've been participating some in the Song A Week group on the mando
  cafe (more like one a month for me

Re: My first video post

2010-10-01 Thread nelsonpeddycoart
I like John's suggestion of a list.  I'd like to nominate Old Daingerfield as 
the first one.  Is that o.k.?
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From: Linda lj...@intas.net.au
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 20:33:43 
To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: My first video post

I have huge problems finding folks I can sit in with cause they all
play so fast, tunes I don't know, mainly old time tunes, the list is
so big I don't know where to start, and their take is not how I hear
it sometimes too.  I am finding playing along with Monroe a great
boon.  Agree too about learning a few tunes in each key and learning
the licks and playing from chord positions is a great way to go.
There are some speed freaks out there who think its only good at top
speed, while I tend to think the right speed for the tune is the goal
(local observation).

I have been working on Old Ebenezer Scrooge for about a year, and
finally am close to something worth recording, also Arkansas Traveler,
but have not heard a Monroe version of that.  Just about have Lonesome
Moonlight Waltz and would love to work on a list as suggested, for a
year to see what can be achieved.

Thank you Nelson for starting this thread and sharing and thanks also
to everyone contributing, good insights for developing players, who
need to build enough to feel good enough to sit in with others.  Its
no good to just sit there completely overwhelmed and lost.  The
comments are all so supportive and positive.  So good to see.  Seems
video production could help with performance issues like turning into
wood when someone is watching, etc.  The best thing I have done for
myself there is to just play, anyway, and wear it, warts and all, get
over it and move on.  Waiting here for the day I can saybeen
there, done that...and am totally over it
Linda





On Oct 2, 12:14 pm, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Good job Nelson!

  I agree with Don, just do it!  The best way to learn is to play with 
 people.  If you mess up, so what?  Everybody does.  Hell, I mess up more than 
 I get right.  That's just part of the learning process. 

 I also agree with John.  Try playing along with Monroe or Mike on a 
 recording.  It will help you with your timing.  That cd isn't going to stop 
 if you  goof, so you'll learn to keep up.  You can slow it down if you need 
 to in order to learn the tune, but after you do,  practice at full speed.  

 Also, try learning several tunes in each key.  G, C. D, A, ect.   By learning 
 that many tunes you will remember licks from each key.  Then if you are 
 jamming and they play a tune in G that you really don't know, you might can 
 use some of the licks you remember from the ones you do know.   A lot of the 
 stuff you did in Bluegrass Special, you will find in other Monroe tunes if 
 you listen. 

 And for John.  I will no longer remark about the speed of tunes.  I am no 
 longer a speed cop..I'm retired!..lol

 Just my .02 for what its worth.

 Terry
 --- On Fri, 10/1/10, taurodont jgardin...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 From: taurodont jgardin...@roadrunner.com
 Subject: Re: My first video post
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 9:03 PM

 Looks like you held out on us at Monroe camp Nelson.  I don't think
 that will happen again. This sounds good for the most part. Has the
 bounce.  The tremolo needs loosened up some, which is very hard at
 that speed.   I don't think I could do it quite like I'd like to hear
 it myself.  The timing is great buts gets a little waggly during that
 part.  Try playing with a Monroe recording and doing some double-stop
 tremolo over the whole thing and inject the Monroe pulse in the
 tremolo, to keep that groove going.  Does Mike sanction this pick
 grip?  Good job Nelson.  If I ever get a chance to record some I'll
 expect similiar treatment.

 Got an idea for a Nelson jam skewering next year: Pick about 8-10
 songs you will be comfortable playing by next year.  They don't have
 to be full speed, unless Terry is watching. Some Monroe wrote, some
 trad. tunes he did, etc.  Let us know so we can work 'em up too.
 We'll do them all in one sitting and in between each one we will throw
 in one you don't know.  Equal parts familiarity and unfamiliarity.
 Life is too damn short not to jam.  Just have to embrace that feeling
 of falling flat on your ass for a while.  It even happens to the very
 best although much less often. John

 On Oct 1, 1:10 pm, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:



  Thank you, Don.
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  -Original Message-
  From: Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com

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  Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 10:48:10
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  Subject: Re: My first video post

  Nelson

Re: My first video post

2010-09-30 Thread Jim Roy
Nelson, way to go.  I'm new to the group and really enjoy seeing and
hearing how accomplished in the Monroe style you all are. Stick with
your plan.  It's working!

Jim



On Sep 30, 7:33 pm, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 All,

 After going to Monroe Camp this year and (again) being too shy to jam,
 I came up with a multi-faceted plan to make myself get better and more
 comfortable with people hearing my playing.  Part of that plan is a
 commitment I made to myself to post a YouTube video on the last day of
 each month whether it is ready or not.  This provides an incentive for
 me to keep a steady work pace and to get accustomed to criticism.

 My first attempt is herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4Chu3iR7M

 I will admit that it is still a bit rough, but I am keeping my pledge
 to myself and welcome any honest comments you have.

 Thanks,
 Nelson

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