Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return is now available
Hey Matt, yesterday (on 04/13/2005 at 23:03) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm...auto-filtering on IMAP accounts appears to have stopped working with this beta. Worked fine on the prior betas. I have to go to my inbox and manually re-filter to get it going. Confirmed! Hope for a fast fix... -- Bye, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return, Windows XP Prof. 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 pgpi8EinEv1Bz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hi Peter, yesterday (on 04/13/2005 at 23:40) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newly encountered issue(s): - Auto-filtering in IMAP Accounts doesn't work. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, now for some good news: - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB sys-tray icon functionality: TB main window is open (leave it open). Select another program from taskbar (like windows explorer): After doing so you need to click (LMB) the sys-tray icon twice to get the TB main window on top again (i.e. TB is first minimised, then restored on top) Not fixed here! -- Bye, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return, Windows XP Prof. 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 pgpJ3Cv1jgFAm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
GPGrelay
Hi all, Next to the Bat! I use GnuPG 1.4.1, GPGshell 3.41 and GPGrelay v0.959 When I start the Bat! I regularly get an AV from GPGrelay. After restarting GPGrelay there are no problems anymore I also use maildispatcher at startup and during the further session. The problems happen since the last 2 betaversions. I have no idea what causes the conflict. Can anyone confirm? -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.9.15 Professional on Windows XP SP2 When your key is not certified with a trusted signature, keysigning is possible when you have a X.509 certificate from Thawte or CAcert with your name on it pgp8dPXFyrfAh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: An error occurred while reading the message base (IMAP)
--On 13 April 2005 19:39 -0600 Keith Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone help me with this, or are there any IMAP users left here? Has everyone, including Allie, abandoned ship? Well, as a sample of one, I've given up on TB. IMAP operation is a disaster - and the prog seems to be going backwards in this area. It's so slow and unreliable here as to be just unusable - I really don't understand why Mulberry, OE, Thunderbird and Outlook all perform to a good to excellent standard and TheBat acts like the earliest possible concept alpha (even on released versions). Now and again I install the latest beta and then lose patience and shut the prog down for a few more weeks. With v4 of Mulberry nearly ready and Thunderbird getting better it's unlikely that TheBat! will stay on my system for much longer. PS for all POP users out there, I think TheBat! is unsurpassed for this protocol! -- Clive Taylor Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return is now available
Hello 9Val, A reminder of what 9Val on TBBETA typed on: 13 April 2005 at 21:04:48 GMT +0200 9 IMPORTANT: 9 If you don't have any antivirus installed, uncheck all items in 9 Options/Preferences/Antivirus This should read Uncheck all items even if you DO have antivirus installed Every single message that comes in gives a Can't check for virus error even though NOD32 is installed. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.15 Return :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Customizing Menus
Hello Stuart, Stuart Cuddy wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): I was just trying to customize the menu bar, but you can only see the first level. Don't get you here. Also while trying to customize the menu I double clicked on the Message menu item and it disappeared. Don't get you here. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return is now available
Hello MAU, Mau wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): What about the problem with the column size of Folder names in the All Tab? You mean https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4353? I though he was referring to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, you're probably right. I'm sorry (and wondering why you can't reproduce, notice: you must have long foldernames (or small column) to see the auto expand). -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Move to next unread
Hello, In this version CTRL+RIGHT doesn't move to next unread and I really don't like using either CTRL+ALT+RT or CRTL+]. Can someone please explain how to customise so that I just get the keystroke assigned without any buttons or menu attributes. I'm afraid I find the customise section absolutely impossible to understand. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Does Search work in 15?
Hi TBBETA 15 looks a risky build - can anyone tell me if the Search facility is fixed in 15 (i.e. you can select folders using the right click options, the search account actually tries to find stuff, no AV's on trying to search etc etc. Without search I'm seriously considering going back to the last release version! -- Graham Windows XP 5.12600 The Bat!: 3.0.9.13 Return -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Does Search work in 15?
Hello Graham, Graham Foster wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): you can select folders using the right click options, This one is fixed, but I don't know whether the others are. (Guess not - see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello Peter, Peter Ouwehand wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Newly encountered issue(s): - If you have a (HTML)table in editor, chose a field and change alignment of it. Works a few times, but then it stops to work correct. (However, I can't give exactly steps to reproduce, just play around a bit). - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4370 Missing item Show Mail Ticker in Systray's context menu Non-fixed issues: - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Name column in account tree auto expand, which can't be stopped. This might be the reason for https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4353. Suggestion: Solve the problem with an option similar to the existing Limit expansion of the first column to [ ] levels -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.0.9.15 anti-virus plugin not working anymore
Hi, Since 3.0.9.15 I get errors that my anti virus plugin cannot be started. I use Avast and the avbatex.bav plugin, latest version. -- Peter Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.0.9.15 - Account log
1. Clicking 'highlights only' doesn't change the button so it always looks like it's on. 2. The icon column in the list is a little too narrow; the icon is slightly truncated. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.15 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Error: Error reading FAT record: Try the SKINNY one? (Y/N) pgpKa7JPgcywY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Test - Please ignore
Forgive the test; all will become clear in a moment. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.15 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Found on a CV: Note: Please don't misconstrue my 14 jobs as 'job-hopping'. I have never quit a job. pgpQ0Kxhpbx6d.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 anti-virus plugin not working anymore
Hi Peter, just now (on 04/14/2005 at 10:28) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since 3.0.9.15 I get errors that my anti virus plugin cannot be started. I use Avast and the avbatex.bav plugin, latest version. Please have a look at the following messages: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bye Bye, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return, Windows XP Prof. 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 pgpRcxOJ7BwiU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.0.9.15 - Outgoing Filter
I have the following outgoing filter for this list ... ,- [ ] | TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: | [03D30D8F.01C518CB.07220EE2.3E6B146C] Name: TBBETA Filter: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] SetColour 1486911337 | CopyMessage folder \5C\5CGmail\5CTB!\20Stuff\5CTBBETA IsContinue | IsActive Ignore endFilter `- It was working perfectly in .13; it's not working now. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.15 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. The main purpose of holding children's parties is to remind yourself that there are children more awful than your own. pgp8Nwcr5crpt.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Beta 15 is the first of this series that actually loads!!
Finally a beta that loads with no cascading AV's and a crash. Now I can see what has been happening. Great stuff, and special thanks to Charlene Ferrara for all the help. -- Best regards, Chris Wilson The Bat 3.0.9.15 Return on Windows 2000 5.0 Build Number 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 - Account log
2005-04-14|10:29 you wrote: 1. Clicking 'highlights only' doesn't change the button so it always looks like it's on. Not confirmed here. -- GH/P/SS d- s:+ a39 C++ L+ W+++ N++ K- w O-- M-- PS--- PE+ Y+ PGP++ t--- 5-- X R- b++ DI- D-- G e+++ h r+++ z+++ The Bat! Polish Support http://thebat.pl The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return, W systemie Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Dodatek Service Pack 2 np.: Tom Waits - Falling Down [pauza] Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Does Search work in 15?
can anyone tell me if the Search facility is fixed in 15 All the right-click stuff seems to work here. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.15 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Error: Error reading FAT record: Try the SKINNY one? (Y/N) pgpWPxy4jopdp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Move to next unread
In this version CTRL+RIGHT doesn't move to next unread Not confirmed. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.15 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. The Benefits of Being Over Sixty ( 8) : You enjoy hearing about other people's operations. pgpEmbogkup8a.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Move to next unread
Hello Stuart, A reminder of what Stuart Hemming on TBBETA typed on: 14 April 2005 at 10:42:20 GMT +0200 In this version CTRL+RIGHT doesn't move to next unread SH Not confirmed. Not confirmed here either. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.15 Return :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.15 - Filtering outgoing mails
Automatic filtering of outgoing mails does not work. I always have to re-filter the folder Sent Mail. Confirmed (confirmed elsewhere too, sorry about that). Gone back to .13 -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.13 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. A hangover is the wrath of grapes. pgpZ9CYvkyy9t.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Broken sorting on refresh VF
Hi there! I have VF age less than 1 days from some folders. I choose refresh for virtual folder to exclude old messages, and in this case a have broken sorting (see attached). Click again, click again and I have normal sorting back. Minor bug? Finally, can I simply exclude automatically old messages from such VF? What does mean Auto Refresh in VF properties? What events can cause refreshing VF? -- Best regards, Ivan The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 attachment: ClipBoard-2.png Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 anti-virus plugin not working anymore
Hi Manuel, Please have a look at the following messages: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, by now I did. Unchecking everything makes things work, but then nothing is checked by the plugin. And anyway i DO have anti-virus installed... When receiving mail however, I get the error message, but when I check the plug-in's log, it did check the incomming message... Apparently The Bat! does not understand plug-in return codes anymore... -- Peter Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 new-/non-/fixed issues
PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO 1. Open Message in a single window (message 1). PO 2. Select other message in the main window (message 2). PO 3. Select first window, with message 1. PO 4. Press Ctrl+Enter PO Result Replay for message 2. it's not work for me -- Best regards, Den V. Yafyasov. The Bat! v3.0.9.15 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Broken sorting on refresh VF
On Thursday, April 14, 2005, 10:52, Ivan wrote: I have VF age less than 1 days from some folders. I choose refresh for virtual folder to exclude old messages, and in this case a have broken sorting (see attached). Click again, click again and I have normal sorting back. Minor bug? Finally, can I simply exclude automatically old messages from such VF? What does mean Auto Refresh in VF properties? What events can cause refreshing VF? In a reply to me sent September 13th 2004 (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), 9val stated: ,- | MO I would like to know when a refresh is done if I select Auto refresh | MO for a VF. Is the folder refreshed every time a change occur in the | MO folder(s) the VF is watching? | | Here is a list: | 1. New message arrived (POP) | 2. Message attributes (flags) were changed | 3. Message was moved | 4. Message was deleted | 5. Importing of new messages | | MO At regular intervals independent of changes in the message base? | MO Both? | | No `- Since TB! does not check the message base at regular intervals, there is no way to notice when a messages has become to old. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello Peter, PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Customise PO - select a container (e.g.) Main Menu (menu bar) PO - select (Available Items) [MailerForm|Search] PO - Add it to current Items PO - selecet other item PO - select Search again PO - get lots of AV's. PO (see also mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) PO 3.0.9.15: no AV, but Search can be added more than once. Agree with Boris - what a problem with multiple-added items? PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Follow entry isn't disabled in context menu of message list. PO (of normal folders) PO 3.0.9.13 'Follow' has now completely disappeared. PO 3.0.9.13 Redefined: 'Follow' has completely disappeared from the VF PO message list pane context menu in the main window. PO 3.0.9.15: PO - in a 'normal' folder there's a blank entry between New and Reply PO - in a VF there's a blank entry between Follow and Reply That's problem with LNG file, it has nothing common with Follow entry :-) -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello Manuel, MB - Auto-filtering in IMAP Accounts doesn't work. MB mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Same roots as with non-working outgoing filters. BTW, it is already fixed -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Trout! (was: Re: Broken sorting on refresh VF)
On Thursday, April 14, 2005, 11:10, Marcus Ohlström wrote: I have VF age less than 1 days from some folders. I choose refresh for virtual folder to exclude old messages, and in this case a have broken sorting (see attached). Click again, click again and I have normal sorting back. Minor bug? Finally, can I simply exclude automatically old messages from such VF? What does mean Auto Refresh in VF properties? What events can cause refreshing VF? Trouting myself for over quoting... Won't happen again. Hopefully. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 new-/non-/fixed issues
AVs when closing the bat. Not confirmed here. I went in and out a few times before I changed back to .13 -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.13 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. If procrastinators had a club would they ever have a meeting? pgpo2T5mJokmo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello George, A reminder of what George M. Menegakis on TBBETA typed on: 14 April 2005 at 11:32:49 GMT +0200 GMM AVs when closing the bat. Reverted to 3.0.9.13 Not confirmed here. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.15 Return :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hi George, just now (on 04/14/2005 at 11:31) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AVs when closing the bat. Reverted to 3.0.9.13 Not confirmed. -- Bye Bye, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return, Windows XP Prof. 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 pgpSxsE39hnNm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello George, George Menegakis wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Newly encountered issue(s): AVs when closing the bat. Reverted to 3.0.9.13 Did you close Connection center before? Can't confirm. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Customizing Menus
Hello George, George Menegakis wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): If you try to customize the main menu on the Current Items only the name of the menu is displayed and not its contents. Thus it is not possible to customize Message, or Specials or any menu. Thanks for explaining. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GPGrelay
Hi Henk, On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:37:01 +0200 (2:37 AM here), Henk de Bruijn [HdB] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: HdB Next to the Bat! I use GnuPG 1.4.1, GPGshell 3.41 and GPGrelay HdB v0.959 When I start the Bat! I regularly get an AV from HdB GPGrelay HdB Can anyone confirm? I use exactly the same versions and have not experienced this problem. The only difference is that I do not use Mail Dispatcher. Perhaps the problem is caused by that. Not related, but when reading your message a pop-up window appeared stating: The anti virus has reported an error, the file cannot be check for viruses The strange part is that I don't use any AV plugins in The Bat!, I use Norton AV. -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v3.0.9.15 Return under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 (see kludges for my pgp key) pgpzBmriP4Jrw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Beta 15 is the first of this series that actually loads!!
Het was op donderdag 14 april 2005 om 10:45 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Beta 15 is the first of this series that actually loads!!' : Hallo Chris, CW Finally a beta that loads with no cascading AV's and a crash. Now I can CW see what has been happening. Great stuff, and special thanks to Charlene CW Ferrara for all the help. it DID actually ended with an AV. No antivirus option now old things I mentioned before still not fixed, so I switched back to good ol' no 13, my lucky number. -- regards, Cees So many pedestrians, so little time. ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.0.9.13 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Quick templates problem with beta 15
Try to add a quick template to a message and get the errors Quick template with the handle 'ERROR' is not found, or Quick template with the handle '' is not found. The templates ARE there, viewable, linked to the correct account and copy / pastable. Anyone else? -- Best regards, Chris Wilson The Bat 3.0.9.15 Return on Windows 2000 5.0 Build Number 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return is now available
Hello Boris, Ah, you're probably right. I'm sorry (and wondering why you can't reproduce, notice: you must have long foldernames (or small column) to see the auto expand). I have long enough names to the point that some are only displayed partially and ending with ..., but the Name column does not autoexpand. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Does Search work in 15?
Hello Graham, On Thursday, April 14, 2005, 3:54:52 AM, you wrote: G 1no AV's on trying to search etc etc. I'm still getting two AVs on entry. After that it seems to work. -- Best, Richard Richard Newman -- Using The Bat!3.0.9.15 Return under Windows XP 5 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99GHz - Visit our website @ http://www.newmangroup.com and win the prize! Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.15 new-/non-/fixed issues
On Thursday, April 14, 2005 @ 2:12:05 AM [-0700], 9Val wrote: MB - Auto-filtering in IMAP Accounts doesn't work. MB mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Same roots as with non-working outgoing filters. BTW, it is already fixed I like these already fixed messages. Too bad there aren't any silent auto-updates to existing betas! -- Matt Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: An error occurred while reading the message base (IMAP)
Clive Taylor wrote: Well, as a sample of one, I've given up on TB. I just went through the last few days of IMAP posts, and it looks like there might actually be six or seven of us still around IMAP operation is a disaster - and the prog seems to be going backwards in this area. It's so slow and unreliable here as to be just unusable - I really don't understand why Mulberry, OE, Thunderbird and Outlook all perform to a good to excellent standard and TheBat acts like the earliest possible concept alpha (even on released versions). This has been my impression, too. It seems as though every new version fixes a few things and breaks more. Now and again I install the latest beta and then lose patience and shut the prog down for a few more weeks. Exactly my experience, as well, but it's stretched into months at this point. Every time I install a new version, I experience some initial excitement and then suddenly it becomes unusable again. With v4 of Mulberry nearly ready and Thunderbird getting better it's unlikely that TheBat! will stay on my system for much longer. I've reached just about the same point. I'm ready to start testing the Mulberry beta. I'm not ready to uninstall TB! (I have too much of an investment in time and money in it to completely give up), but I think I'll restrict myself to testing major releases only--unless and until IMAP begins working properly (although there hasn't been a big difference between betas and released versions lately). PS for all POP users out there, I think TheBat! is unsurpassed for this protocol! Agreed. I've almost found myself wishing lately that I hadn't switched to IMAP, but I can never go back to POP3. It's looking more and more like it's going to be impossible for RIT to continue to patch a POP3 client and eventually create a successful IMAP client. Not only is it unreliable, but there are still important IMAP features missing (such as labels), and there appears to be no interest in adding them. Good luck to you. Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
new
Het is donderdag 14 april 2005 en 18:14:50 uur : Hallo tbbeta, just playing Huey Lewis And The News with: I Want A New Bat :-)) sorry, teensy bit, well... frustrated is a big word. But font in messagewindow also keeps appearing too tiny with beta 15. And still needs the Options-Preferences-OK trick. Forgot to mention that in an earlier message. Untill the next beta arrives, I'll pass on no15. -- groeten, Cees OLLIE NORTH VIRUS: Causes your printer to become a paper shredder. ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.0.9.13 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: An error occurred while reading the message base (IMAP)
Keith, On 14-04-2005 03:39, you [KR] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: KR Can anyone help me with this, or are there any IMAP users left here? KR Has everyone, including Allie, abandoned ship? I have not jumped ship but I am using 3.0.1.33 which seems to work OK for me. It does not work perfectly but with minor issues. When some of the other bugs have been ironed out of this beta series, I will start beta testing again. When (if?) TB! grows better with IMAP, I want to move all my accounts to IMAP but I dare not at the moment. But for me TB! is more important than IMAP - for me Mulberry and Thunderbird are not an option due to missing functionalities: macros, RegExp, etc. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GPGrelay
Hi Kevin, On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:00:25 -0400GMT (14-4-2005, 15:00 +0100, where I live), Kevin Coates wrote: KC On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:37:01 +0200 (2:37 AM here), Henk de Bruijn KC [HdB] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: HdB Next to the Bat! I use GnuPG 1.4.1, GPGshell 3.41 and GPGrelay HdB v0.959 When I start the Bat! I regularly get an AV from HdB GPGrelay HdB Can anyone confirm? KC I use exactly the same versions and have not experienced this problem. KC The only difference is that I do not use Mail Dispatcher. Perhaps the KC problem is caused by that. ...snip Thanks for responding. I unchecked the maildispatcher option for all my accounts and the problem does not occur anymore! So maybe maildispatcher is causing a (memory?) conflict??? BTW I use Norton Internet Security 2005 but I have unchecked all the options in the Bat! and have no problems with that. -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.9.15 Professional on Windows XP SP2 When your key is not certified with a trusted signature, keysigning is possible when you have a X.509 certificate from Thawte or CAcert with your name on it pgpF79QzUQogT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Beta 15 is the first of this series that actually loads!!
Hi Chris Wilson, Thursday, April 14, 2005 you made my cheeks turn red by saying : Great stuff, and special thanks to Charlene Ferrara for all the help. Always welcome, Chris! :-) I hope you always get your engines started in half the time we needed to pull TB out of the box onto the runway and up in the air :-) -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
strange mails
Hello TBBETA, anybody seen these strange mails? There is no subject and no from entry in the message list window. The date of the messages is set on 30 Dez 1899, 00:00, both received and created. But the messages are readable in the message view window. See strangemails.png Got these mails with TB! v 3.0.9.13 Return and also with v 3.0.1.33 -- Best regards, Stefan Dorscht mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Written with TheBat! v 3.0.9.13 Return \ Windows XP Service Pack 2 Attachments / Dateianlagen: ++ [1] strangemails.png ++ attachment: strangemails.png pgpQHbBvgV2si.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GPGrelay
Hi Henk, On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:05:20 +0200 (2:05 PM here), Henk de Bruijn [HdB] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: HdB Thanks for responding. I unchecked the maildispatcher option for HdB all my accounts and the problem does not occur anymore! HdB So maybe maildispatcher is causing a (memory?) conflict??? I would say that's probably the cause. I've rarely used the Dispatcher and not at all with this version. Perhaps the dispatcher's direct connection with the ISP conflicts with GPGrelays attempted connect. HdB BTW I use Norton Internet Security 2005 but I have unchecked all HdB the options in the Bat! and have no problems with that. I read a message after I sent my reply to you indicating all AV options should be unchecked if you don't use a plugin. I did that and the problem has not returned. I guess I should read the announcements thoroughly. :) -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v3.0.9.15 Return under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 (see kludges for my pgp key) pgpPJpoWIjxWA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: An error occurred while reading the message base (IMAP)
Hi Peter, On 14/04/2005 07:32 PM +0200, you wrote: When some of the other bugs have been ironed out of this beta series, I will start beta testing again. This is my current position, though this position may be worsening as I get more acquainted, through Mulberry, with what a fully functional and implemented IMAP protocol can offer. TB! has some way to go. When (if?) TB! grows better with IMAP, I want to move all my accounts to IMAP but I dare not at the moment. But for me TB! is more important than IMAP - for me Mulberry and Thunderbird are not an option due to missing functionalities: macros, RegExp, etc. For me, my fundamental wish is that the protocol works reliably and robustly, in that it works well across different environments. It's more than a little frustrating using TB! at home while using another client elsewhere. You wish your clients to be equally capable in terms of protocol handling so that you can really spread your wings with it and not be in limbo doing the basics and hoping on and on and on and on that things will get better. What doesn't help that hope is that when comments are made about quirky or flaky implementation of a feature, we're told that there are limitations based on the POP3 base TB! is built on. To work with a beta and tolerate the shortcomings, I have to see a bright future. I used to have faith that there was one, but now I don't. Though changes have been made, the overall progress has been very slow for the last several months since attempts to fix one problem brings on other problems/issues. There's this constant grappling with basic efficiency with mail retrieval/reading etc. My basic problems: A properly functioning outbox that will work as a draft folder. You can keep unfinished mail there without problems. A couple claiming they have no problems with the current situation doesn't help. Labelling needs to be implemented. I can easily label messages as important etc. and expect to retain these labels across locations. Performance despite having multiple connections support is still disappointingly poor. It's faster, but still not good enough. I found myself pruning folders down just to accommodate this. I shouldn't have to be doing this. The way to solve this is having the ability to retrieve only a set quantity of the most recent messages from each folder. With this ability, Mulberry is the fastest solution I've used with my connection at work. It works better even though it doesn't keep a cache between restarts. Another method of efficient bandwidth use is the downloading of only that much information as is needed per message. You select a message, and only the message body is downloaded. You select an attachment for viewing and only that attachment and no other attachments in the message is downloaded. I'm enjoying being able to selectively download one among several attachments within a single message without having to retrieve the rest of the attachments and with a high degree of reliability. Filtering needs to be better so that I can easily filter from low bandwidth locations. The sound support is flaky. After a long break from TB!, I'll open it to a cocophony of new message sounds and there are no new messages. I've already read the new messages from another client! All I ask for is a debugged protocol with attention to efficiently, *reliably* and properly operating basic functions. I'm not prepared to work with quirky implementations that work to some extent or in some sort of a way thanks to the great efforts behind shoe-horning around the POP3 code base. I'm not being sarcastic about 'great efforts' either. I know that there are efforts being made. No doubt about that. I'm just wondering if TB!'s IMAP will reach a level that would make want to stick with it for the long haul. I'm seeing a situation of one having to tolerate mediocre IMAP in exchange for the appeal/lure of the non-protocol specific features like templates etc. I've been totally detoxed from the addiction of templates and MicroEd. That took a long time, but in the end, those are tools to augment the basic requirement which is the working protocol behind them. For me, they fade into insignificance without the working protocol. Though they make some things easier for me, I manage better with better IMAP than flaky IMAP and the TB! additions. I wasn't managing that well with ThunderBird, since it lacks too many things. However, Mulberry isn't bad at all with the other features and since getting accustomed to it, I'm more settled with e-mail than I've ever been in MANY months since I have Mulberry working really well at both locations. I'm still reading the lists and see that there are many issues still amiss with the new beta that's not protocol specific. I need to see that pass before rejoining the fray. I also need to have a rekindle of faith in what TB! IMAP is planned to be like. Otherwise, I will continue to feel like
Re: An error occurred while reading the message base (IMAP)
Allie Martin said the following on 04/14/2005 15:07: When some of the other bugs have been ironed out of this beta series, I will start beta testing again. This is my current position, though this position may be worsening as I get more acquainted, through Mulberry, with what a fully functional and implemented IMAP protocol can offer. TB! has some way to go. Ditto to everything Allie said. Since the advent of v3, I have quit using TB! altogether as I'm not going to pay another license fee for a product which has not improved one bit since my previous license fee. I have followed TBBETA in hopes of someday returning to TB! when IMAP problems are repaired. However as I've grown more accustomed to TBird (while it may be lacking in many respects, it does IMAP smoothly and reliably -- like Allie, that is my priority), I'm beginning to think I have probably left TB! behind permanently. Interesting comments about Mulberry, Allie. I tried it once for a while but didn't feel as comfortable with it as with TBird. Maybe I'll have to give it another try. -- Dave Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: strange mails
Good evening Stefan, on Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:44:07 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: SD There is no subject and no from entry in the message list window. is this by any chance on an IMAP folder? If so, I can confirm it - it's a long standing IMAP bug (at least here) and the main reason why I don't use TB with IMAP. (At least not on a regular basis.) -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.9.15 Return (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: strange mails
Hi Stefan, Thursday, April 14, 2005, 8:44:07 PM, you wrote: SD anybody seen these strange mails? SD There is no subject and no from entry in the message list window. SD The date of the messages is set on 30 Dez 1899, 00:00, both received SD and created. SD But the messages are readable in the message view window. I see them once in a blue moon on my pop3 connection, I came to the conclusion its some form of parsing error in the bat, as the mail list on the box has no such message and when it occurs lists message count in the bat - 1 messages. -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: strange mails
Hello Stefan, Thursday, April 14, 2005, 10:44:07 PM, you [SD] wrote: SD anybody seen these strange mails? I can confirm this with all 3.0.9.13, 3.0.9.14 and 3.0.9.15. SD There is no subject and no from entry in the message list window. SD The date of the messages is set on 30 Dez 1899, 00:00, both received SD and created. SD But the messages are readable in the message view window. I got rid of these messages by choosing Folder | Refresh or by clicking the Clear cache now -button of the corresponding folder. Thanks, Tero -- Tero Ripattila Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: An error occurred while reading the message base (IMAP)
Allie, On 14-04-2005 22:07, you [AM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AM For me, my fundamental wish is that the protocol works reliably and AM robustly, in that it works well across different environments. It's AM more than a little frustrating using TB! at home while using another AM client elsewhere. As it is now I use 3.0.1.33 at work. I probably get 10-20 mails a day. For this, that version's IMAP is adequate. It's not good (I have to use a local outbox, re-select messages with attachments, problems with bolding of folders and so on), but OK. I am on a very fast connection. Also to my those of my personal mailboxes I test with IMAP. I believe you are on a slow connection so your experiences are different. AM You wish your clients to be equally capable in terms of protocol AM handling so that you can really spread your wings with it and not be AM in limbo doing the basics and hoping on and on and on and on that AM things will get better. I agree. This is my hope, too. AM To work with a beta and tolerate the shortcomings, I have to see a AM bright future. I used to have faith that there was one, but now I AM don't. Though changes have been made, the overall progress has been AM very slow for the last several months since attempts to fix one AM problem brings on other problems/issues. There's this constant AM grappling with basic efficiency with mail retrieval/reading etc. I agree. IMO, the focus for me seems wrong. I could care less for skins and all the other bells and whistles. What Ritlabs need to do is to pour a large number of development hours into getting IMAP to work - since the current state will just create more and more disgruntled users. Look how many - myself included - complained about the version 3 scheme: IMAP was promised in the series 2 - but now, 20+ builds after series 3, it still does not work. That is just going to tick even more people off. And all the people trying TB! because it claims IMAP will quickly feel TB! is flaky - and due to this they might not even want to use TB! for POP. AM A properly functioning outbox that will work as a draft folder. You AM can keep unfinished mail there without problems. A couple claiming AM they have no problems with the current situation doesn't help. Actually, for my Mailmax server, this seems to work fairly OK. Does not work with my Exchange (IMAP) account at work. AM Labelling needs to be implemented. I can easily label messages as AM important etc. and expect to retain these labels across locations. Good idea. Not vital to me, but if it's part of IMAP, I'm all for it. AM Performance despite having multiple connections support is still AM disappointingly poor. After 3.0.1.33, IMAP has become completely unusable for me: hanging connections and so on. I hope the new beta series will improve this significantly. 9Val has contacted me in order to get my input. AM It's faster, but still not good enough. I found myself pruning AM folders down just to accommodate this. I shouldn't have to be doing AM this. As written above, my connection is so fast that this is no problem for me. Connection lock-ups is a much larger issue. AM Filtering needs to be better so that I can easily filter from low AM bandwidth locations. I agree that filtering needs to improve. AM The sound support is flaky. After a long break from TB!, I'll open AM it to a cocophony of new message sounds and there are no new AM messages. I've already read the new messages from another client! OK, I have never had this. AM All I ask for is a debugged protocol with attention to efficiently, AM *reliably* and properly operating basic functions. I'm not prepared AM to work with quirky implementations that work to some extent or in AM some sort of a way thanks to the great efforts behind shoe-horning AM around the POP3 code base. I agree. Ritlabs should never have embarked on IMAP if they do not want to Do It Right and Do It Completely. AM I've been totally detoxed from the addiction of templates and AM MicroEd. That took a long time, but in the end, those are tools to AM augment the basic requirement which is the working protocol behind AM them. For me, they fade into insignificance without the working AM protocol. Though they make some things easier for me, I manage AM better with better IMAP than flaky IMAP and the TB! additions. Yes. I think the fundamental difference between you and me is that IMAP is vital to you and it is important to me (OK it's vital at work but here I don't get that may messages and the connection is 100 MBit). Here at home (mainly POP - but I'd like to move to IMAP) I have so many things that depend on macros and RegExp, that switching to another client hardly is an option at the moment. AM Otherwise, I will continue to feel like I'm testing for just AM testing, rather than testing towards a final product that I'll end AM up really continuing to use in the end. I understand you completely. I hope what I have written above will show why I
Re: 3.0.9.15 - Outgoing Filter
Hallo George, On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:05:29 +0300GMT (14-4-2005, 11:05 +0200, where I live), you wrote: It was working perfectly in .13; it's not working now. GMM Outgoing filters are not working in the latest beta. Confirmed -- Groetjes, Roelof What garlic is to salad, insanity is to art. The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpEmxxUb28Xa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 anti-virus plugin not working anymore
Hallo Peter, On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:28:13 +0200 (CEST)GMT (14-4-2005, 10:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PH Since 3.0.9.15 I get errors that my anti virus plugin cannot be started. I PH use Avast and the avbatex.bav plugin, latest version. Same here with AVG. -- Groetjes, Roelof Conscience is the inner voice that warns us somebody is looking The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpN17iHxJnBi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: strange mails
Hello Peter Hampf, on Thursday, April 14, 2005 at you wrote: is this by any chance on an IMAP folder? Nope. Its POP3 on a yahoo-account. If so, I can confirm it - it's a long standing IMAP bug (at least here) and the main reason why I don't use TB with IMAP. (At least not on a regular basis.) Seems to be a bug mutant, jumping from IMAP to POP3. :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Dorscht mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Written with TheBat! v 3.0.9.13 Return \ Windows XP Service Pack 2 pgpVqbdeXcoKo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: strange mails
Hello Tero Ripattila, on Thursday, April 14, 2005 at you wrote: I got rid of these messages by choosing Folder | Refresh That doesn't work on my side. or by clicking the Clear cache now -button of the corresponding folder. Where ist that button? Can't find it.. -- Best regards, Stefan Dorscht mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Written with TheBat! v 3.0.9.13 Return \ Windows XP Service Pack 2 pgp3OjOvTFyew.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: strange mails
Hello Liz, on Thursday, April 14, 2005 at you wrote: SD There is no subject and no from entry in the message list window. SD The date of the messages is set on 30 Dez 1899, 00:00, both received SD and created. I see them once in a blue moon on my pop3 connection, I came to the conclusion its some form of parsing error in the bat, as the mail list on the box has no such message and when it occurs lists message count in the bat - 1 messages. While deleting these mails, they changed received and created date and time to the actual time and date. That could confirm your conclusion, couldn't it? -- Best regards, Stefan Dorscht mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Written with TheBat! v 3.0.9.13 Return \ Windows XP Service Pack 2 pgpQZtgPJXoW5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.15 greater-than sign printed as gt;
Hallo Peter, On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:21:22 +0200GMT (14-4-2005, 20:21 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PO see attachment. Odd PO Happens when printing to a HP-LJ-4L and to a 'PDF printer'. Not on my system, not on my OKI and when I realized I had the same HP4L as you (a bit of an oldie) I tried that one too, no problems. I'm on XP though, in stead of 2000. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 010 Reserved for future mistakes by our developers The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpTBnlXQSiUC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: strange mails
Good evening Stefan, on Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:39:42 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: SD Seems to be a bug mutant, jumping from IMAP to POP3. :-) :-))) You made my day, or better: my night bg. -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.9.15 Return (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: strange mails
Good evening Stefan, on Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:45:00 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: SD Where ist that button? Can't find it.. it's IMAP related. -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.9.15 Return (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return is now available
jueves, 14 abr 2005 at 00:28, it seems you wrote:
You mean https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4353?
Yes, it's the problem I have. Thanks
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Re: An error occurred while reading the message base (IMAP)
Hi Peter, On 14/4/2005 11:30 PM +0200, you wrote: I understand you completely. I hope what I have written above will show why I will continue to help with testing IMAP. Yes, I understand and can see 'eye to eye' with all your comments. As with all imperfect choices, we choose the one that will work best for us at a given time. I can actually get by with TB! at home since my IMAP server runs on my working system. The connection is therefore as fast as it can be. The connection speed just overcomes any inefficiencies with sheer speed. ;) However, I've had enough for the time being with just 'getting by'. However, I appreciate that your situation allows you to make the decision you made, i.e., to carry on, and I'm happy for that because I'm sitting here thinking that TB! IMAP needs testing in different environments to improve. :) There lies the dilemma. However, I need good evidence of commitment to really get the thing working soon without explanations that we have to make do because of POP3 architecture getting in the way as well as priority issues putting IMAP on the backseat even for a while. I know that this may be the reality and I understand it from a development POV. I'm not being suggesting anything to RITLabs. If I can't get this, I've given a lot of time and am not yet prepared to give more with the uncertainty. I may get a second wind yet, and start actively testing again. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes. Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
