Re[2]: fix all bugs
2. Users sometimes try to use IMAP as they use POP. It is completely wrong and it gives bad results. Right. However, I've been using IMAP for over a year now and I assure you that I no longer use it as I use POP. I still have issues with it. Even if all that it can do now works as it should without glitches etc., I'd still not be happy because of the POP legacy very slowly being relinquished. For the majority of people who get a few legitimate messages a week, which they delete after reading/responding, for those who are are just barely able to figure out how to turn a computer on, pop will remain the choice of most isps, I suspect. 3. Personally I couldn't reproduce most of the bugs reported. As a programmer you should know how it is to deduce the reason in the air. I don't know the nature of your test environment, but perhaps the problem starts there. A professional grade beta testing operation is a large overhead. Maybe that is why RIT relies so heavily on us. Mulberry and ThunderBird present themselves in a simpler way. The out of the box behaviour just works and they will not do some of the things TB! will. They don't need to. A low bandwidth connection cannot handle some of those off-line use type options, and yet a high bandwidth connection doesn't need them though they can handle them. I find setting synchronize to "headers only" helps with large folders. Getting a new list of folder contents is pleasantly fast. Some other email clients don't have this figured out nearly so well. Eudora, for instance, can take a half hour for the same operation over my high speed connection. Having TB default to downloading my 15,000 full message contents, many with large attachments would make a very poor impression if I were installing it for the first time. Pop is for those who are confused by options and would really rather they went away. IMAP is for those of us who need a lot more from email software and are willing to put in the time it takes to configure it correctly. Of course it is true, that those for whom pop is right probably don't know that and sometimes do wander into imap land unawares. You have to know who your customers are, and how much you should cater to the low end of the spectrum at the expense of the high end. Everybody is not going to be pleased no matter where you draw your lines. -- Gleason UsingTheBat!v3.5ReturnRC5onWindowsXP5.1Build2600 ServicePack2PrimarilyusingtheFastmail IMAPserverwhichusesCyrus. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP problems 3.5RC5
Hi, IMAP is still a show stopper for me in RC5. When I try to send a message a get the following error: "Cannot select the mailbox "Outbox". Server reports: Mailbox does not exist or must be subscribed to." When I click on the Inbox then the following message appears in the log: "Cannot list headers of the mailbox "Inbox". Server reports: Error in IMAP command received by server" This happens with different IMAP servers and all of my Imap accounts. -- Michael TheBat!3.5 RC5onWindows2000SP4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP problems 3.5RC5
Hello Michael, Sunday, May 8, 2005, 9:07:10 AM, you wrote: This happens with different IMAP servers and all of my Imap accounts. I suspect this is a problem with your setup. I access three IMAP servers perfectly OK using RC5. Sorry! -- Regards, Clive Taylor Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A minor issue with Customiser
Hello Costas, Costas Papadopoulos wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): If you merely open the Customiser and then immediately press Alt-F4 or the X at the right side to close it, you are warned that changes have been made and you are asked whether you want to save them. Can't confirm. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC5 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello Stuart, Stuart Cuddy wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): 2) When reading messages in the message list and using the space bar to move to the next message, it works for reading threads until you come to a new thread and then it ceases to work. Confirmed. 3) All Menu choices still not represented in Customize. ie. View/Display/Only Unread Messages. Confirmed. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC5 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Peter, M Fixed. Hmmm, I can't confirm this as being fixed. Still no undelete when using the Del key. Ops! You are very right. I wonder if I did use the Del key or if I did it from the menu. Sorry for the confusion. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 is now available
Hello Giampaolo, Yes, it is now resizable. Bust size is not saved and window must be resized every time. Ritlabs seems to hate that window :) Anyway, not a big issue, you don't customise toolbar every day. You are very right. I already have my two beloved shortcuts 'Space' and 'Return' and I don't think I'll be customising many other things. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC5: Search using previous conditions NO GO.
Hello Ming, Would you please add your note to it? TIA Done. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A minor issue with Customiser
Hello Costas, If you merely open the Customiser and then immediately press Alt-F4 or the X at the right side to close it, you are warned that changes have been made and you are asked whether you want to save them. This warning is, of course, unnecessary. Not here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP problems 3.5RC5
Hey Clive, just now (on 05/08/2005 at 11:32) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This happens with different IMAP servers and all of my Imap accounts. I suspect this is a problem with your setup. I access three IMAP servers perfectly OK using RC5. Sorry! Me too. I connect to three different servers, without problems, since I turned sync off. For me, with my settings and environment, I really *love* TB! in this state! -- Bye Bye, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5, Windows XP Prof. 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: fix all bugs
Hi Gleason, On 7/5/2005 11:19 PM -0700, you wrote: I don't know if you intended it, but all the lines in your messages are followed by an extra carriage return. See the block just below. I've reformatted the others. Even if all that it can do now works as it should without glitches etc., I'd still not be happy because of the POP legacy very slowly being relinquished. For the majority of people who get a few legitimate messages a week, which they delete after reading/responding, for those who are are just barely able to figure out how to turn a computer on, pop will remain the choice of most isps, I suspect. Agreed. I'm not sure why you write this now. I was referring to how some IMAP features are implemented. They are implemented based on POP features/architecture. One example is the filtering, and another, the sound alerts. Both have their problems/limitations as a result. I don't know the nature of your test environment, but perhaps the problem starts there. A professional grade beta testing operation is a large overhead. Maybe that is why RIT relies so heavily on us. Right. Many of us are beyond the stage of trying to use IMAP synchronizing all folders etc. We do form a great test bed. I find setting synchronize to headers only helps with large folders. Getting a new list of folder contents is pleasantly fast. Some other email clients don't have this figured out nearly so well. Eudora, for instance, can take a half hour for the same operation over my high speed connection. Having TB default to downloading my 15,000 full message contents, many with large attachments would make a very poor impression if I were installing it for the first time. Pop is for those who are confused by options and would really rather they went away. IMAP is for those of us who need a lot more from email software and are willing to put in the time it takes to configure it correctly. I beg to disagree with your latter point. IMAP is simply for those who wish to manage the same mail from multiple locations. There are many simple users I know who love webmail for that simple reason. They would use IMAP in a flash if they *knew* about it since the few I introduced to it immediately adopted it. IMAP is not mysterious and tedious, making it accessible only for those with the time to put into it. Of course it is true, that those for whom pop is right probably don't know that and sometimes do wander into imap land unawares. You have to know who your customers are, and how much you should cater to the low end of the spectrum at the expense of the high end. Everybody is not going to be pleased no matter where you draw your lines. There are more often those who rightfully wonder into IMAP land. However, they wish IMAP to work in the same way as POP since that's all they were previously familiar with. I've been there. Full synching is one such option, especially when done automatically and at regular intervals for all folders, something that TB! can be set up to do. The idea of having full synchronisation at all times is appealing and many try it only with frustration ... *even on high bandwidth connections*. However, not synching and using simple server count updating achieves a very good result in that you can easily browse your messages. Once you select the folder, there's a quick header update and then you can browse. [If TB! didn't have to work with all message headers , this could be even faster.] The messages are then retrieved as you select them with the connection being dedicated only to what you are specifically doing at all times. Even with 6 connections going on my LAN, TB! pauses when doing some things because it's busy doing something else. It's amazing how well I use an IMAP client at work now, and paradoxically, I use it with no caching between sessions or even between folder browsing. Each time I open a folder, a new cache is built!! This is with a relatively slow connection. Why? IMAP is fully developed in this client. You don't need all 15000 headers in the cache to browse the last 200 messages. You don't need all 15000 headers cached to search for a message or messages .. even a quick search. etc. etc. This is where I hope to see TB! eventually go. I suspect, it will. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Help endangered species - adopt a KGB operative. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP problems 3.5RC5
HelloClive, Sunday,May8,2005,11:32:58AM,youwrote: Isuspectthisisaproblemwithyoursetup.IaccessthreeIMAP serversperfectlyOKusingRC5.Sorry! Yes indeed, I have deleted and recreated all my IMAP accounts and that has solved the problems immediately. No idea why it has been working with previous releases. -- Bestregards, Michael Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix all bugs
Hello Allie, I don't know if you intended it, but all the lines in your messages are followed by an extra carriage return. See the block just below. I've reformatted the others. Even if all that it can do now works as it should without glitches etc., I'd still not be happy because of the POP legacy very slowly being relinquished. Not here Allie. See below the same paragraph you quote: Even if all that it can do now works as it should without glitches etc., I'd still not be happy because of the POP legacy very slowly being relinquished. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix all bugs
On Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 6:47:33 AM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote: Not here Allie. See below the same paragraph you quote: You misunderstood. I'm not referring to POP3 the way it is. I'm referring to the POP3 legacy that IMAP is built on. It's the root to a lot of the problems before and some that exist now. I'm referring to 9Val's comment: 9Val 1. TB! hasn't thought as IMAP client when was created (mostly fixed) Let me give you an example of what I meant: Currently, IMAP sound notification for new messages is a modification of sound notifications for POP accounts. While it works well for POP, it's a problem for IMAP. Right now, the sound is triggered for an IMAP folder if a folder count is done and messages are added. These are often messages already read using another client. No need to be notified about messages already read. However, TB!'s notification system cannot tell the difference. You see, for POP, there's only one way 'new' messages will end up there and it's if these are new messages that haven't been read. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Skiier: Avalanche looking for a place to happen. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A minor issue with Customiser
Hello Costas, Sunday, May 8, 2005, 8:43:29 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): If you merely open the Customiser and then immediately press Alt-F4 or the X at the right side to close it, you are warned that changes have been made and you are asked whether you want to save them. This warning is, of course, unnecessary. I have to qualify my above comment. Following a couple of replies that I received that what I experienced was not confirmed by others, I tried going through the above process, but instead of just closing the dialog, I clicked on the Yes button, to save the changes (note that I did not make *any* change to the customisation settings). There was an AV and The Bat! shut down, also offering to send an error message to Microsoft. After I restarted The Bat and repeated the exercise, the dialog closed _immetiately_ after I clicked on th X or pressed Alt-F4. Perhaps The Bat needed the hardening process of the AV before it would start behaving normally!! LOL -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix all bugs
On Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 7:00:07 AM [GMT -0500], Allie_M wrote: However, TB!'s notification system cannot tell the difference. You see, for POP, there's only one way 'new' messages will end up there and it's if these are new messages that haven't been read. I'm referring to what happens during a server check for new messages for POP3. So I'm not referring to manual filtering or moving of messages. :) -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Shift key? this keyboard is an automatic! Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV's while customising
Hi all, I was just fiddling with the customization of a few shortcuts. I've been exploring some single key shortcuts. I've been getting AV's and crashes while doing so, usually after hitting OK for the changes to be made. I captured two of them (someone mentioned selecting the av popup and copying the contents but that doesn't work). AV at address 00A94B6A in module thebat.exe. Read of address 0038 AV at address 000C. Read of address 000C -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?
Hello all, Friday, May 6, 2005, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Peter, On Fri, 6 May 2005 12:55:10 -0400 GMT (06/05/2005, 23:55 +0700 GMT), Peter Gannushkin wrote: PG Vam take na zdravi, panove. wow, this is nice too see my native language here :-) -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?
Hello all, Friday, May 6, 2005, MAU wrote: Then you have to try it one day. They even start to sell it here in the US under the name Czechvar, but the best place to have it is in Czech. Czech is one of the countries I have in mind to visit if I ever have the time and the money. good choice, You are welcome :-) -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?
Hetwasopzondag8mei2005om15:09uurdatjijietsschreefover'Anyonewantstotrymyyellowishicons?': HalloMarek, CzechisoneofthecountriesIhaveinmindtovisitifIeverhavethe timeandthemoney. MMgoodchoice,Youarewelcome:-) hmz... Czech is all Greek to me. :rofl: -- regards, Cees Whyareyoulookingdownhere?Thejokeisabove! ___ TheBat!:bat2angel::beta:3.5ReturnRC5[A12F0392]runningonWindowsXP5.1build2600ServicePack2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix all bugs
Hello Allie, Not here Allie. See below the same paragraph you quote: You misunderstood. No, I think you misunderstood me or I wasn't clear enough. I was referring to what you said: I don't know if you intended it, but all the lines in your messages are followed by an extra carriage return. See the block just below. I've reformatted the others. And I was trying to say that I did not see the extra CR. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix all bugs
On Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 8:20:08 AM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote: And I was trying to say that I did not see the extra CR. Yes. I don't see the effect when using TB!. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- It's easier to get older than it is to get wiser. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix all bugs
Hi MAU, --On Sunday, May 08, 2005 1:47 PM +0200 you wrote in part: I don't know if you intended it, but all the lines in your messages are followed by an extra carriage return. Even if all that it can do now works as it should without glitches etc., I'd still not be happy because of the POP legacy very slowly being relinquished. Not here Allie. See below the same paragraph you quote: Even if all that it can do now works as it should without glitches etc., I'd still not be happy because of the POP legacy very slowly the reason is that Gleason is sending HTML email to the list, and this shows an additional CR. -- Gary Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 is now available
Hello Peter! On Sunday, May 08, 2005, 8:03 AM, you wrote: But, I couldn't notice any visual evidence of 'Compress all folders on exit' which is enabled here. Confirmed. No compression graph seen here. My settings are Empty trash and Compress all folders on exit, also. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV's while customising
Hello Allie, Sunday, May 8, 2005, 7:48:17 AM, you wrote: AM (someone mentioned selecting the av popup and copying the contents AM but that doesn't work). Yes I had typed a message to make this comment, but The Bat! crashed due to the AV I was trying to copy and I was unable to send it. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: fix all bugs
Het was op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 15:26 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'fix all bugs' : Hallo Gary, G the reason is that Gleason is sending HTML email to the list, and this G shows an additional CR. okay I'm trying to reply now with windows editor option. Normally I use the first option, plain text microed, but for testing purposes THIS editor does not wrap and quote as it should, see above. Additional question: can it not be arranged that the preferred editor can be chosen PER ACCOUNT? I have an emaillist on my gmailaccount which requires htmleditor. Pictures have to be included IN the message and not with the paperclip-option. So for that account I want htmleditor, for the other 3 I want to use plaintext. -- regards, Cees RUNTIME ERROR 6D at 417A: 32CF: Incompetent user ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: :beta: 3.5 Return RC5 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: fix all bugs
Het was op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 15:43 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'fix all bugs' : Hallo Cees, C okay I'm trying to reply now with windows editor option. Normally I C use the first option, plain text microed, but for testing purposes C THIS editor does not wrap and quote as it should, see above. this is odd... the previous message, to which I'm replying right now, looked like crap within the editor, but arrived apparently okay. Now I'm replying and again I see lines being cut-off and text without quote signs. Bet it arrives as it should, but this is confusing. ;) -- regards, Cees Buy Land Now. It's Not Being Made Any More. ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: :beta: 3.5 Return RC5 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP header wow
Hi Ya'll, I am going through this morning's mail in IMAP, and the major problem of bodies not showing up when new mail arrives, seems to have been eliminated for the most part. I still am getting email that I cannot open occasionally. However, I now click on an email and a different body shows up than the one that is in the list. So the email header in message list is associated with the wrong body, which happens to be the next one down on message list. Upon clicking on the two mixed emails, this does nothing... still shows incorrect body. -- Regards, Gary using rc5 on XP Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Quick Search in Windows98
Hello TBbeta, Is there anyone out there still using Windows 98 that could confirm the following: In Windows 98 when I use quick search in the message list if I want to find my name I have to type a capital S to start or it will not find my name. In other words the search is case sensitive. I believe this is not how it is supposed to be. It was suggested that I install unicows.dll, but this did not seem to correct anything. Is there anyone who has managed to fix this problem? -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: fix all bugs
G the reason is that Gleason is sending HTML email to the list, and this G shows an additional CR. okay I'm trying to reply now with windows editor option. Normally I use the first option, plain text microed, but for testing purposes THIS editor does not wrap and quote as it should, see above. Additional question: can it not be arranged that the preferred editor can be chosen PER ACCOUNT? I have an emaillist on my gmailaccount which requires htmleditor. Pictures have to be included IN the message and not with the paperclip-option. So for that account I want htmleditor, for the other 3 I want to use plaintext. I sure would appreciate that. This list is the only place where I can't send html (but I do always send both just in case). I am guilty of forgetting to switch to microed sometimes for messages here. -- Gleason Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Primarily using the Fastmail IMAP server which uses Cyrus. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix all bugs
Hi Cees, On Sun, 8 May 2005 15:43:45 +0200 UTC (5/8/2005, 8:43 AM -0500 UTC my time), Cees wrote: C okay I'm trying to reply now with windows editor option. Normally I C use the first option, plain text microed, but for testing purposes C THIS editor does not wrap and quote as it should, see above. this came through as plain text, not HTML or enriched. C Additional question: can it not be arranged that the preferred editor C can be chosen PER ACCOUNT? not that I am aware of. C I have an emaillist on my gmailaccount which requires htmleditor. C Pictures have to be included IN the message and not with the C paperclip-option. So for that account I want htmleditor, for the other 3 C I want to use plaintext. As far as I know, you would have to edit manually to change to HTML text for in-line pictures. -- Gary '...have you taken your Haldol today?' Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TBBETA Digest, Vol 158, Issue 137
Not sure if this reflects a change in TB, but all of a sudden today, the spam filter is doing a good job of catching spam. I sure am glad. -- Gleason Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Primarily using the Fastmail IMAP server which uses Cyrus. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV Cascade
Hi, I just exited TB! and this triggered a cascade of AV's. The address seemed the same for each popup so I tried taking it down, but TB! disappeared before I could get it all. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- My favourite mythical creature? The honest politician. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! Professional with eToken/iKey1000
Hello Tbbeta, We've just fixed utilization of eToken / iKey1000, please download tbb35rc6.rar from the regular location (just use direct beta download URL with the file name changed to tbb35rc6.rar). The Token Manager and Activation Utilitity remain the same. Just feel free to ask questions. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV Cascade
Hello Allie, A reminder of what Allie Martin on TBBETA typed on: 08 May 2005 at 17:22:24 GMT +0200 AM I just exited TB! and this triggered a cascade of AV's. The address AM seemed the same for each popup so I tried taking it down, but TB! AM disappeared before I could get it all. If it happens again try pressing PrtSc, you might be luck enough to get a screen grab of it. OT: Did you see the F1? Minardi? Just shows what a single software bug can do, even to a Million pound F1 racing car :) -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Professional with eToken/iKey1000
Bonjour Maxim, Le dimanche 8 mai 2005 à 17:23:16, vous écriviez : MM Hello Tbbeta, MM We've just fixed utilization of eToken / iKey1000, please MM download tbb35rc6.rar from the regular location (just use direct MM beta download URL with the file name changed to tbb35rc6.rar). The MM Token Manager and Activation Utilitity remain the same. Just feel MM free to ask questions. Could you please remind us where to download those two complementary software please ! Cordialement, -- Claude Renaud Skype : Name : renaud_claude Number : 0870445179 Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 is now available
Hello Mary! On Sunday, May 08, 2005, 8:32 AM, you wrote: But, I couldn't notice any visual evidence of 'Compress all folders on exit' which is enabled here. Confirmed. No compression graph seen here. My settings are Empty trash and Compress all folders on exit, also. I have to amend this report now. I unchecked the box in Account/Properties/Options and then checked it again, having looked at it just to verify that it was indeed checked. When I closed The Bat! in order to shut down the computer for awhile, the graph with the text Compressing folders did appear. TB!'s shutdown is working as expected for me. No idea why I hadn't seen this correct behavior earlier in running RC5. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Professional with eToken/iKey1000
Hello Claude, A reminder of what Claude Renaud on TBBETA typed on: 08 May 2005 at 17:39:48 GMT +0200 CR Could you please remind us where to download those two CR complementary software please ! http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC6 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! Professional with eToken/iKey1000
Hello Claude, Sunday, May 08, 2005, 18:38:50, you wrote: Could you please remind us where to download those two complementary software please ! For eToken - http://www.ritlabs.com/download/securebat/etoken/TokenMgrSetup.exe For iKey - http://www.ritlabs.com/download/securebat/ikey1000/TokenMgrSetup.exe -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV Cascade
Hi Tony, On 8/5/2005 4:35 PM +0100, you wrote: If it happens again try pressing PrtSc, you might be luck enough to get a screen grab of it. I guess I was like a dog staring at headlights. Frozen for a sec and then choose the wrong direction to run. ;) I chose the writing part after staring at the screen for a few moments as the sound stuttered away. It was afterwards that I thought of the print screen option. Having seen the dramatic cascade a couple times now and seeing that everything else is working fine on the system. I'll deal with it more calmly next time. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Shareware: forget the manual...phone the author at home! Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 is now available
Hello all, Saturday, May 7, 2005, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ [-] Other : AV on deletion today i get one AV error after deleting all filtered messages in folder in RC5. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV's continue on message deletion in RC5
Again, after reading a few messages and TBBeta in digest mode and hitting Shift and clicking the trash can I got another AV. --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 0040451E in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 24448300. --- OK --- -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV Cascade
Hello Tony, OT: Did you see the F1? Minardi? Just shows what a single software bug can do, even to a Million pound F1 racing car :) To _two_ 1 Million pound F1 racing cars ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Professional with eToken/iKey1000
Hello Maxim, One more issue: 1) when using eToken, Mail Ticker not showed automatically when new mail available. 2) When I set up to show Mail Tick always, it not scrolled when new mail available (shows only number of e-mails received). Sunday, May 8, 2005, 7:23:16 PM, you wrote: MM Hello Tbbeta, MM We've just fixed utilization of eToken / iKey1000, please MM download tbb35rc6.rar from the regular location (just use direct MM beta download URL with the file name changed to tbb35rc6.rar). The MM Token Manager and Activation Utilitity remain the same. Just feel MM free to ask questions. -- Best regards, Antonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5RC5 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello Stuart, Sunday, May 8, 2005, 5:03:43 AM, among other things, you wrote: SC Also Issues still a problem for me: SC 1) In Windows 98 when I use quick search in the message list if I SC want to find my name I have to type a capital S to start or it will SC not find my name. In other words the search is case sensitive. I SC believe this is not how it is supposed to be. It was suggested that SC I install unicows.dll, but this did not seem to correct anything. It may be just be a Windows 98 issue. Definitely not case sensitive in XP here. SC 2) When reading messages in the message list and using the space bar SC to move to the next message, it works for reading threads until you SC come to a new thread and then it ceases to work. Again it may be just be a Windows 98 issue., it works OK in XP. SC 3) All Menu choices still not represented in Customize. SC ie. View/Display/Only Unread Messages. Confirmed. -- Best regards, Roger Flying with The Bat!, version 3.5 Return RC5, with antispam BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: 3.5RC5 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello Roger, Sunday, May 8, 2005, 10:50:54 AM, you wrote: SC 1) In Windows 98 when I use quick search in the message list if I SC want to find my name I have to type a capital S to start or it will SC not find my name. In other words the search is case sensitive. I SC believe this is not how it is supposed to be. It was suggested that SC I install unicows.dll, but this did not seem to correct anything. RP It may be just be a Windows 98 issue. Definitely not case sensitive RP in XP here. Yes I agree that this is strictly Windows 98 and maybe ME. It has something to do with handling Unicode in Windows 98. Still looking for someone else to confirm. SC 2) When reading messages in the message list and using the space bar SC to move to the next message, it works for reading threads until you SC come to a new thread and then it ceases to work. RP Again it may be just be a Windows 98 issue., it works OK in XP. This one is not just in Windows 98. I also have this in Windows 2000. In threaded view with threads expanded. Here if I use the space bar to move between messages as long as the next message is in the same hierarchy or lower the space bar works. If the next message is in a higher hierarchy then the spacebar fails to move. +ABC +ABC OK +ABC OK +DEF Will not move here from previous message. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV Cascade
Hello MAU, A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on: 08 May 2005 at 19:07:38 GMT +0200 M To _two_ 1 Million pound F1 racing cars ;-) Yes, they travelled 10 foot and then both got Access Violations... To the track! I bet the software engineer got the sack? Still he could apply for a job at RIT :) -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC6 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC5 new-/non-/fixed issues
Peter, On 08-05-2005 00:45, you [PO] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO View mode option: New thread sorting is broken as mentioned in PO mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. PO Peter Fjelsten (and others): is this still broken for you? Sorry for not responding but I have been away (been to the middle of nowhere in south-eastern France). This now appears to work just as well as before this beta series*. Thank you, Ritlabs! ___ * I still get some weird sortings once in a while but this only happens rarely. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5 Return RC5 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP header wow
Hello Gary, On 08 May 2005, 14:49 you wrote: However, I now click on an email and a different body shows up than the one that is in the list. So the email header in message list is associated with the wrong body, which happens to be the next one down on message list. Upon clicking on the two mixed emails, this does nothing... still shows incorrect body. I'm sure this was resolved in an earlier beta or RC... I haven't seen it for some time. Perhaps you need to clear the cache and start over? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 Whoever sets the agenda controls the outcome of the debate. NOAM CHOMSKY ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC5 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Professional with eToken/iKey1000
Hi Maxim, Sunday, May 8, 2005, 4:23:16 PM, you wrote: MM We've just fixed utilization of eToken / iKey1000, please MM download tbb35rc6.rar from the regular location (just use direct MM beta download URL with the file name changed to tbb35rc6.rar). The MM Token Manager and Activation Utilitity remain the same. Just feel MM free to ask questions. 2 Qs.. 1. why isnt it listed off the download list of the usual URL, coz copy, paste, edit.. grr.. :P 2. I cant find the token manager and activation thing.. :( -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 is now available
Hi Peter Ouwehand, Sunday, May 8, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : CF The shutdown-bug seems to be fixed: closing windows now leads CF to a smooth shutdown, all active tasks are terminated even if one CF of them is an active TB. I have tried this a few times, so far so good. Me, too meanwhile -and now it always works well. But, I couldn't notice any visual evidence of 'Compress all folders on exit' which is enabled here. I am not sure, but this may be a thing that Rit had to do due to the timeout limit at shutdown. BTW: if it only happens at a dirty shutdown, who cares? Next time all folders will be compressed at regular exit, isn't it? Or did I get you wrong? -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! Professional with eToken/iKey1000
Hello Liz, Sunday, May 08, 2005, 22:33:03, you wrote: 1. why isnt it listed off the download list of the usual URL, coz copy, paste, edit.. grr.. :P 2. I cant find the token manager and activation thing.. :( This beta is for people who have already used SecureBat! with eToken or iKey, and have experience in using the tokens with our software. As soon as they confirm that it is OK, I'll post the detailed instructions here how to activate the token to use with our software. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Professional with eToken/iKey1000
Hi Peter, Sunday, May 8, 2005, 8:56:55 PM, you wrote: PH It's listed here: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, I thought Id read all that lot looking for it.. but obviously not. Thanks -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP header wow
Hello Martin, I'm sure this was resolved in an earlier beta or RC... I haven't seen it for some time. Perhaps you need to clear the cache and start over? Well, it reappeared here, too. But only after you clicked on a new mail before TB, was ready for it. That was the first thing Gary described, clicking on the mail and no message body appears. After that you get the wrong message body shown, if you use the folder view. I wrote something about that, a while ago. So Confirmed. -- Regards, Raymund Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP header wow
On Sunday, May 8, 2005 @ 6:49:31 AM [-0700], Gary wrote: However, I now click on an email and a different body shows up than the one that is in the list. So the email header in message list is associated with the wrong body, which happens to be the next one down on message list. Upon clicking on the two mixed emails, this does nothing... still shows incorrect body. How about a RMB - Reload? I have had similar issues and the reload usually works. -- Matt Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC7 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Peter, IMAP: = I really find that show stoppers. No normal user will see the connection between the dial up and the IMAP commands. So they will think TB! is worthless, and that a show stopper, isn't it? -- Regards, Raymund Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GUI: Outbox bold
Thomas, On 05-05-2005 12:13, you [TF] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: TF In this version, the Outbox is also bold when there are parked TF (drafted) messages. This is not good. It should only be bold when TF there are messages that are waiting to be sent, like in the TF previous versions. Has been so for a long time. I have reported it here on the list (or to 9Val in PM). Should be as before. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5 Return RC5 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC7 a preview of issues to be tested
Peter, On 08-05-2005 21:42, you [PO] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PO User Interface: PO === (cut) PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Edit Mail Message PO window [Spell Checker | Dictionaries] shows American English PO although British English is selected in [Spell Checker | Language] (Present since the new Customize dialogue was introduced:) Other installed languages are not available in Customize - this makes it impossible to assign a keyboard shortcut for them so languages can be changed via the keyboard. Also, here the bug with collapsing the message tree does not automatically scroll up is still present: If you have a long opened message tree, scroll to the bottom and collapse the branches, TB! does not automatically move three downwards so all folders/accounts are visible. The top-most ones are out of view as it is now. I know this was reported on TBBeta before. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5 Return RC5 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP header wow
Hello Raymund, On 08 May 2005, 21:29 you wrote: I'm sure this was resolved in an earlier beta or RC... I haven't seen it for some time. Perhaps you need to clear the cache and start over? Well, it reappeared here, too. But only after you clicked on a new mail before TB, was ready for it. That was the first thing Gary described, clicking on the mail and no message body appears. After that you get the wrong message body shown, if you use the folder view. Do you use syncronisation? For me, I get best results with no synchronisation. Only when I browse messages is the body retrieved; this includes attachments 10kB. However, the server is on my LAN...so I'm going to try TB! with a remote IMAP server in the next few days. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 How often misused words generate misleading thoughts. HUBERT SPENCER ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC5 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
RC5: Can't set Priority from Status bar
Hello all, I don't send many High Priority messages and, when I do, I usually select this by clicking on the Status bar icon at the bottom of the Edit window. My surprise today was when I tried this and instead of changing the icon, I got the menu that should come up with a right click. But this is not all, please see attached PNG. The menu shows High Priority as selected and it isn't as the icon shows. But this is not all, clicking again on the High Priority menu entry does nothing. So, the only way to select High Priority is to select Options/High priority from the to menu, or on the lower menu (which should not appear with a left click) select Normal or Low and then High. Can anybody confirm? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 attachment: Priority.png Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC7 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Raymund, Raymund Tump wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): I really find that show stoppers. No normal user will see the connection between the dial up and the IMAP commands. So they will think TB! is worthless, and that a show stopper, isn't it? On the other hand, I can't see that every IMAP user is affected with this. Furthermore not beeing able to reproduce the bug (because of not using IMAP) makes it difficult to sag whether it's a show stopper or not. Personally, I'd like to all these bugs in BugList fixed before the release of final. However which bugs will be fixed, and which bugs are really a show stopper don't decide I nor Peter, but only Ritlabs. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC7 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Peter, Peter Fjelsten wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): (Present since the new Customize dialogue was introduced:) Other installed languages are not available in Customize - this makes it impossible to assign a keyboard shortcut for them so languages can be changed via the keyboard. Think it's same like: - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] All Menu choices still not represented in Customize. ie. View/Display/Only Unread Messages. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC7 a preview of issues to be tested
Boris, On 08-05-2005 23:06, you [BA] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: BA Think it's same like: BA - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BA All Menu choices still not represented in Customize. BA ie. View/Display/Only Unread Messages. Yes. You are right. My issue is a part of this. Sorry for the duplicate. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5 Return RC5 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC5: Can't set Priority from Status bar
Hello MAU, Mau wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Can anybody confirm? Open editor Set priority in to high Close editor Open editor Do a click on the priority in status bar: Priority high is selected in context menu, also it should be normal (and icon also shows normal). Select to high again doesn't set priority to high, you must select another priority first. BTW: Left click on priority in status bar shouldn't open context menu but only switch priority. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC7 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Peter, Peter Fjelsten wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] All Menu choices still not represented in Customize. ie. View/Display/Only Unread Messages. Yes. You are right. My issue is a part of this. Sorry for the duplicate. No problem at all. Maybe the BR get's a supplement? -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC5: Can't set Priority from Status bar
Hello MAU! On Sunday, May 08, 2005, 4:03 PM, you wrote: ... select ... [High Priority] by clicking on the Status bar icon at the bottom of the Edit window. My surprise today was when I tried this and instead of changing the icon, I got the menu that should come up with a right click. ... Confirmed. ... But this is not all, please see attached PNG. The menu shows High Priority as selected and it isn't as the icon shows. ... Confirmed. ... But this is not all, clicking again on the High Priority menu entry does nothing. So, the only way to select High Priority is to select Options/High priority from the to menu, or on the lower menu (which should not appear with a left click) select Normal or Low and then High. Yes. This is exactly how it behaved for me. I had never tried to use any of these functions before, but I understood your description and easily replicated here what you found. Can anybody confirm? Indeed. Confirmed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP header wow
Hi Martin, On Sun, 8 May 2005 20:14:47 +0100 UTC (5/8/2005, 2:14 PM -0500 UTC my time), Martin Webster on tbbeta wrote: However, I now click on an email and a different body shows up than the one that is in the list. So the email header in message list is associated with the wrong body, which happens to be the next one down on message list. Upon clicking on the two mixed emails, this does nothing... still shows incorrect body. M I'm sure this was resolved in an earlier beta or RC... I haven't M seen it for some time. Perhaps you need to clear the cache and start M over? Cache is cleared upon close, and this was a new start of TB! -- Gary Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP header wow
Hi Matt, On Sun, 8 May 2005 13:29:21 -0700 UTC (5/8/2005, 3:29 PM -0500 UTC my time), Matt Thoene wrote: However, I now click on an email and a different body shows up than the one that is in the list. So the email header in message list is associated with the wrong body, which happens to be the next one down on message list. Upon clicking on the two mixed emails, this does nothing... still shows incorrect body. M How about a RMB - Reload? I have had similar issues and the reload M usually works. reload did not work, and one should not have to reload to read email in IMAP :) -- Gary Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP header wow
Hi Martin, On Sun, 8 May 2005 22:01:29 +0100 UTC (5/8/2005, 4:01 PM -0500 UTC my time), Martin Webster on tbbeta wrote: M Do you use syncronisation? For me, I get best results with no M synchronisation. Only when I browse messages is the body retrieved; M this includes attachments 10kB. However, the server is on my M LAN...so I'm going to try TB! with a remote IMAP server in the next M few days. none of my folders are synced, as I have 2 IMAP servers (one XP, and one FreeBSD) on the LAN. -- Gary Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Biometric Authentication
Hello Tbbeta, If you would like to use biometric authentication, i.e. get the messages from server upon presenting a finger to a fingerprint reader or voice sample to the microphone, just install Dekart BIO API: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/dkbioapi.rar The Bat! Professional and the BatPost server do support this way of authentication. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP header wow
On Sunday, May 8, 2005 @ 4:24:45 PM [-0700], Gary wrote: and one should not have to reload to read email in IMAP :) Agreed. I am just pretty used to finding some workaround for the various IMAP quirks we run into with TB! -- Matt Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC5: Can't set Priority from Status bar
Hallo MAU, On Sun, 8 May 2005 23:03:04 +0200GMT (8-5-2005, 23:03 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M this is not all, please see attached PNG. The menu shows High Priority M as selected and it isn't as the icon shows. But this is not all, M clicking again on the High Priority menu entry does nothing. So, the M only way to select High Priority is to select Options/High priority from M the to menu, or on the lower menu (which should not appear with a left M click) select Normal or Low and then High. M Can anybody confirm? Partially confirmed. You can select 'normal' and afterwards 'high' and the icon will change. It's a bug, nevertheless. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows: written entirely by and for blondes The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpMgWcPPBJdl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
