3.5.24 MSI installer bug no #2
Hello, 1. Create virtual drive by subst in Windows XP: subst z: n:\ I created virtual z drive from all n drive - this is very reliable when I use TB in my 2 computers - TB is in other physical locations, but virtual paths in registry, configuration paths, etc is always Z:\. 2. Try to install TB in such drive (z) - this is impossible! 3. Try to install TB in n - physical location - this is impossible due to security violation. 4. Try to disconnect z drive (subst /d z:) - this is impossible due to bug described oin my previeus post 3.5.24 MSI installer bug no #1. The only solution to install TB is now disconnecting TB from subst and then mapping n as network drive and then install on z. -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v3.5.24, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 -- Twoje wlasne auto w zasiegu reki... http://link.interia.pl/f188b Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Connection Centre items are often not visible
On 6/1/05, Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To reproduce this bug you need to have a lot of accounts (50 is pretty well :-)). Well, I don't have 50 accounts, but I can confirm this bug. Of course, to some it might be a feature. After all, who needs that scroll bar anyway? And if anyone really wants it back, s/he can always restore it by this simple - though naturally hidden - technique. :-) -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.5.24 Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Change install dir
Hello Goos, On Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 6:59:10 PM Goos [G] wrote: G could you make it possible to let install TB in a different G directory, while recognizing at install the previous version and G take over from that one the configuration, inclusing the whole G messagebase files. PP Just do a 'Custom' installation, you should be able to select the PP destination folder. G But will it recognize the privious version in a different directory G and take over the whol configuration and messagebase files? I'd think it'll not *move* the message base, not. But it should recognize the values in your registry and configure itself accordingly. Moving the message base would be something you'd have to do manually. But I don't consider this a problem; for several versions now TB! puts message base in %APPDATA% by default and from there it does not need to be moved anywhere, just because the executable is put into a different directory. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.5.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) Now and then, an innocent man is sent to the Legislature. Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Compress/Expunge/Trash folders weirdness
On 01 June 2005 at 05:12, Allie wrote: Thanks for your response, Allie. It's helped me to understand what's going on. Sometimes I think my biggest problem is not knowing what all the options actually do. :) That's a bummer. I compress on exiting folders and this seems to work most of the time. I'm loathe to check that option as I don't want to expunge the messages until I've exited the program. I sometimes need to retrieve the deleted messages. good explanation snipped for brevity No. It would be better to just compress all folders intermittently or just after a startup or just before a shutdown of TB!. This is because compressing on exit isn't working for you. Seems like that's the route I'll have to take. more good explanation snipped for brevity I don't even know what to say here. AFAIK, the IMAP protocol makes the concept of a trash folder unnecessary. For example, Mulberry accounts don't carry trash folders. If you delete a message in IMAP, it's simply flagged as deleted. This is different from POP3 deletions. I know that for TB! POP3 deleted messages remain in the message base until you run a compress operation, but this isn't so for most other POP3 clients. As a result, trash folders are necessary. After your explanation of how it works, I can see that it's unnecessary for me to use a local trash folder. If I want to keep the messages since I can be a little delete happy at times, I uncheck the compress when moving between folders option and they'll be there until I manually compress or exit the program (assuming that gets fixed). If I want to keep them indefinitely, then I would also uncheck the option to compress folders on exiting at which time the messages would only be deleted when I manually compressed. Again, thanks so much for your explanation. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v3.5.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Compress/Expunge/Trash folders weirdness
Hi Manuel, On 01 June 2005 at 06:35, Manuel wrote: For me too, except the trash folder. All sent mailing lists mails get deleted by a outgoing filter and my trash folder grows and grows. This is a known bug. Some time ago it seemed to be fixed, but now it's still/again there. I haven't experienced this problem. Is that with a local trash folder or using one on IMAP? snipped for brevity Oh yes. Do you, Terry, really need full synchronisation? For me, TB! is useless with synchronisation. I get duplicate messages, reloading is poor slow, opening messages can take forever, if TB! is updating its list in the background. Since I turned synchronisation off, TB! works as good as TB! works with IMAP and I can work with it quite okay. I reported this problem and got some confirmations. Unfortunately I can't find it this time. Well, I don't know if I need full synchronisation now. IIRC, there was a problem with one of the very early betas of the 2.x, or 3 versions that I was able to overcome by using full synchronisation. Those settings have stayed with me. Perhaps it's time that I reviewed all my different account settings. I think this is another case of not knowing how all the settings really work. If I did, then I could determine what would be best. I would swear this is related to synchronisation. ;) Terry, what connection are you using? Fast or slow one? A fast one, I've got a 2MB ADSL connection. You're right, Allie. Since Stefan wrote they will focus on IMAP in the next beta cycle and said something about showing deleted messages in the normal message list, this would be a thing, we can point them to. When one is able to see deleted messages with a different colour or strike out or something in the message list, copying to trash folder is really useless. That would be incredibly helpful. Thanks for your response. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v3.5.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: Compress/Expunge/Trash folders weirdness
Hi Terry, -- 01.06.2005 08:09 +0100: For me too, except the trash folder. All sent mailing lists mails get deleted by a outgoing filter and my trash folder grows and grows. This is a known bug. Some time ago it seemed to be fixed, but now it's still/again there. I haven't experienced this problem. Is that with a local trash folder or using one on IMAP? Server side trash folder. Oh yes. Do you, Terry, really need full synchronisation? Those settings have stayed with me. Perhaps it's time that I reviewed all my different account settings. I think this is another case of not knowing how all the settings really work. If I did, then I could determine what would be best. Yeah, try to review your settings and give the no-sync a go. :) I would swear this is related to synchronisation. ;) Terry, what connection are you using? Fast or slow one? A fast one, I've got a 2MB ADSL connection. Huh, I thought it may be the same problem that Allie has at work. With a slow connection TB! needs simply to much time to fetch *all* headers off *all* messages in *all* folders. ;) When one is able to see deleted messages with a different colour or strike out or something in the message list, copying to trash folder is really useless. That would be incredibly helpful. Would be very nice, you're right. I like this behaviour in Mulberry. Thanks for your response. You're welcome. :) -- Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Little bug quoting when using RTV and Smileys
Hi Miguel Try it by replaying and quoting this line ;-) M Darn! I've just found out that it doesn't happen all the time. The line above M is quoted fine, smiley included. However, see the quote below from a message M from Mary Bull: That's how I recognize him, too! That, and his distinctly definitive accent! M It had an smiley at the end and it is not included when quoted. A different style of smiley, though: ;) instead of ;-) You also using regular expressions in your reply template? Could be this is causing your problem. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.5.24 on Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Smartbat - time/date stamp
Hello Nick, A reminder of what Nick Danger on TBBETA typed on: 31 May 2005 at 22:38:56 GMT +0200 Yeah, that's the easy part - can you make it stop though? I've often thought about that and asked for it quite a while ago. Every time you check it you end up with extra dates added on the end. What it needs is a button that adds the date stamp if and when you want to add a new entry, not automatically every time you open it just to read previous entries. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.24 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org pgpCY5PppbNZC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello MAU, A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on: 01 June 2005 at 01:41:00 GMT +0200 I can easily see it's you writing because I can _see_ you in the photo And what a good looking Sod in the photo it is ;) -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.24 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org pgpKvb0VkANOZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The most un-obvious things
Hello MAU, A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on: 01 June 2005 at 01:48:00 GMT +0200 And now, let's all go and have a beer. I'll even pay this time :) Now that is an offer we can't afford to miss... Might never happen again :) -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.24 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org pgpWwKU5U8cGs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello George, A reminder of what George M. Menegakis on TBBETA typed on: 01 June 2005 at 09:08:30 GMT +0200 Amen !!! Seconded ! Your about the fifth to second it. How many seconders do we need to get the idea implemented? -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.24 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org pgpAFbt59vRE9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
[Usability] Re: The most un-obvious things
Hi Tony MAU And now, let's all go and have a beer. I'll even pay this time :) TB Now that is an offer we can't afford to miss... Might never happen again :) I'm still puzzling over a message about beer being headed 'The most un-obvious things'. :) -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.5.24 on Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] Re: The most un-obvious things
Hello Natasha, A reminder of what Natasha V Pearce on TBBETA typed on: 01 June 2005 at 11:24:20 GMT +0200 I'm still puzzling over a message about beer being headed 'The most un-obvious things'. This is a Bat mailing list, you'll get used to it :) -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.24 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org pgpDTFsVwCvHd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Blanks.
Hello TBBETA, I keep getting blank pages when trying to view messages. I can view previous ones but sometimes not new ones in the list. No Message Loaded errors I can live with as I know it's because TB is trying to retrieve them from the server. Knowing the message is there but not displaying is another thing. TB! just sits there doing nothing and no message is displayed however long I wait. The messages in question get marked as read and I can even delete them but they don't display. See www.theboomclan.com/blank.png -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.24 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org pgprKqlayLwQC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Compress/Expunge/Trash folders weirdness
Hello Terry. --On 31 May 2005 23:24 +0100 you wrote about Compress/Expunge/Trash folders weirdness: Can anyone confirm, give me settings guidance, etc? Thanks. I can confirm all of it and you should have noticed I've been complaining about it for weeks. Can't confirm clearing the cache though, I can open another email client and still see the deleted messages that TB was supposed to expunge. Now that someone else has noticed it maybe RIT will believe me. -- Tony. M. pgp1YZZadkaHN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blanks.
Hello Tony, A reminder of what Tony Boom on TBBETA typed on: 01 June 2005 at 11:33:05 GMT +0200 The messages in question get marked as read and I can even delete them but they don't display. Forgot to say I can read them perfectly fine with Mulberry but even after restarting TB they still don't display, I even tried a complete PC reboot without joy. I'm desperately trying to stick with TB, even to the point of resigning myself to the fact I have to expunge manually with CTRL+C until RIT fix the problem. Thing is what can I do with messages that don't display at all? Hope they're not important and delete them or STILL have to rely on Mulberry? As one door closes, another one slams in your face! -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.24 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org pgpH0gBxIObxU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello Mary. --On 31 May 2005 18:54 -0500 you wrote about Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things: Even though, I myself don't see much use in signing to mailing lists. Unless it's a feature that doesn't work and it certainly doesn't work with The Bat. PGP is a pretty important thing in my eyes if TB has problems handling it then who else to I tell? Where else should we test it in order to get it to work? Pointless joining a PGP list if it's a Bat problem. a PGP key verification window popping up in my face automatically. :) ) Me too, that's why I've asked for an unobtrusive note on the header pane rather than having the whole PGP GUI pop up every time you click the button. -- Tony. M. pgp4PzD5Pj4pT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello MAU. --On 01 June 2005 02:09 +0200 you wrote about Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things: What do you mean _kid_ding? I'd say that at least in your case and mine we would have to say we are _gradparent_ing ;-) I think that's a grand idea :) -- Tony. M. pgpSIZtmTdLuo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: Compress/Expunge/Trash folders weirdness
Hello Terry. --On 01 June 2005 08:00 +0100 you wrote about Re[2]: Compress/Expunge/Trash folders weirdness: I'm loathe to check that option as I don't want to expunge the messages until I've exited the program. I sometimes need to retrieve the deleted messages. Expunging messages in TB when you switch folders is a very erratic experience for me, sometimes it works, most times it doesn't. In my opinion messages marked for deletion should at the very least be expunged totally when you exit the program. However when I suggested this the reply I got from 9val was: 9val It is not supposed to work on close program. So if switching folders don't work and you close TB down, all those messages you Thought were deleted are all still there on the server. For me that's unacceptable and the main reason I have very little if no faith at all in TB! at present. I occasionally get important confidential mail. When I do I make a local copy and delete it from the server... Well, I used to assume it was being deleted from the server, I have no faith in TB's ability to do that on it's own now though. -- Tony. M. pgpTlmsnRC8ds.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.5.25
Hello Tbbeta, [-] Removed some AVs www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb3525.rar www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-5-25.msi -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.24 MSI (has props.dll)
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 12:01:16 AM, you wrote: Everything went fine, but now I got a speller directory with 31 files, whereas my previous speller directory had 26 and I used 'complete' install on both moments. Didn't you have a file list left? I'd like to know exactly which files were missing. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.24 MSI installer bug no #1
Hello Prezes, Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 8:57:23 AM, you wrote: 1. Install TB in Netowrk drive Z. 2. Disconnect network drive z (or terminate connection). 3. Run MSI installer - MSI installer will fail to start with communicate, that there is no drive z. How do the other MSI-based programs handle that? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hello Maxim, A reminder of what Maxim Masiutin on TBBETA typed on: 01 June 2005 at 12:32:31 GMT +0200 [-] Removed some AVs I never had any to start with. 25 builds into the new beta cycle and still no IMAP improvements? -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org pgpR9cXsKR1UN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25 pro won't install correctly
Het was op woensdag 1 juni 2005 om 12:32 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.5.25' : Hallo Maxim, MM [-] Removed some AVs also something different in the installer my guess would be, since I cannot install. This is the error I got (wrote it down): Error 1901.Error attempting to read from the source installation database: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\37ca4a9.msi. Retry Cancel MM www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi Tried this one, with the above error as a result. So had to reinstall -24.msi since the installer had already deleted the orignal thebat.exe -- regards, Cees If I want your opinion, I'll ask you to fill out the necessary forms. ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5.24 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.24 MSI installer bug no #2
Hello Prezes, Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 9:02:59 AM, you wrote: 1. Create virtual drive by subst in Windows XP: subst z: n:\ What kind of error does the MSI gives? Could you please send me the installation log? MSIs are known to not install from mappep or substed drives. If you'll find an MSI that works fine in the conditions that you've described, please send it to me. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
25 builds into the new beta cycle and still no IMAP improvements? Are these /official/ betas? -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound as they fly by. - Douglas Adams pgp9ufnVT5BDr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi Seems OK so far. Mind you, Like Tony, I wasn't getting AVs with .24. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It is a good chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Bring your husbands. pgpwZRo7liJZo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.24 MSI installer bug no #1
How do the other MSI-based programs handle that? They don't, other than to allow you to browse for the file elsewhere. MS Office is a good example of that. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Lymph (v.), to walk with a lisp. pgprwFCMhu3bd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Compress/Expunge/Trash folders weirdness
On Wednesday, June 01, 2005 at 12:35:32 AM [GMT -0500], Manuel Breitfeld wrote: Yes. Looks like though the message list may be synchronized on startup, with that of the server, the cached message base itself isn't. As a result deleted messages remain locally until you run a compress in TB!. Hmm, not for me. I don't use synchronisation. I don't either. Open TB!, getting new messages, close TB! without reading them. Open Mulberry, reading new messages, deleting and expunging them, closing Mulberry. On reopening TB! still has the bold folder for some time. But after a while - say: after TB! has updated his whole message list for all folders - the message is away. However, are the messages still in the message base file, i.e., the .tbb file. I'd bet they are, and that they remain there until you run a compress operation on it. Remember that TB! uses two files for each mailbox, the .tbi file that is for the message list and the .tbb file that is for the actual message bodies. Oh yes. Do you, Terry, really need full synchronisation? For me, TB! is useless with synchronisation. I get duplicate messages, reloading is poor slow, opening messages can take forever, if TB! is updating its list in the background. Since I turned synchronisation off, TB! works as good as TB! works with IMAP and I can work with it quite okay. I agree here that TB! works best with no synchronisation. If you have a fast connection, you certainly don't need it, since you're likely on a broadband connection. If you have a slow connection and think you need full synchronisation, then it's still a problem unless you're willing to leave TB! synchronising for an hour or so before going back to read some mail. I agree that it's not really right, but that's how it works now. Expunging on the server using another client or tool, doesn't mean that TB! will update its cache on a restart. TB! depends on you to use its own compress operations. If you did so, the cache would be up to date and commensurate with what's happening on the server. I would swear this is related to synchronisation. ;) Terry, what connection are you using? Fast or slow one? Synching the message list doesn't mean that the message base is sync'd. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.24 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- One way to better your lot is to do a lot better... Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.25
Hello Tony, Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 1:40:37 PM, you wrote: 25 builds into the new beta cycle and still no IMAP improvements? We will let you know when we get back to IMAP. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blanks.
On Wednesday, June 01, 2005 at 4:19:03 AM [GMT -0500], Tony Boom wrote: I keep getting blank pages when trying to view messages. I can view previous ones but sometimes not new ones in the list. No Message Loaded errors I can live with as I know it's because TB is trying to retrieve them from the server. Knowing the message is there but not displaying is another thing. TB! just sits there doing nothing and no message is displayed however long I wait. The messages in question get marked as read and I can even delete them but they don't display. You could try one of two things when this pesky problem arises. You could try using the message reload option. It's in the popup menu for the message list. You could also empty the folder cache and allow it to be rebuilt. Is the problem occurring with a particular folder. For me, messages not loading occurs only in one circumstance and that is when I attempt loading a message when the mailbox is busily being updated. A message reload helps here. If you still have problems then this makes me wonder if you're experiencing that old bug where TB! fails to retrieve the message properly and what you have cached is the message without a message body. I think a TB! restart usually treated this, or a cache emptying and rebuild. Of course, none of these solutions are necessarily acceptable. However, how you manage to fix the loading could help lead to exactly what's happening. Reloading as a fix implies a simple retrieval problem. Cache rebuild implies a corrupted cache or corrupted message body retrieve. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.24 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- The best way to win an argument is to be right. Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.24 MSI (has props.dll)
Hallo Maxim, On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:35:08 +0300GMT (1-6-2005, 12:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM Didn't you have a file list left? I'd like to know exactly which files were missing. This is the old list: 30-03-2004 12:41 7.691 SSCEBR.tlx 30-03-2004 12:41 314.248 sscebr12.clx 30-03-2004 12:41 7.784 ssceda.tlx 30-03-2004 12:41 304.042 ssceda2.clx 30-03-2004 12:41 8.139 SSCEDU.tlx 30-03-2004 12:41 571.551 SSCEDU2.clx 30-03-2004 12:4117.536 SSCEFI.tlx 30-03-2004 12:41 947.604 SSCEFI2.clx 30-03-2004 12:41 5.565 SSCEFR.tlx 13-04-2004 11:03 347.774 SSCEFR2.clx 13-04-2004 11:03 9.186 sscegn.tlx 13-04-2004 11:03 862.269 sscegn2.clx 13-04-2004 11:03 9.186 sscego.tlx 13-04-2004 11:03 865.832 sscego2.clx 30-03-2004 12:41 7.747 SSCEIT.tlx 30-03-2004 12:41 766.710 SSCEIT2.clx 30-03-2004 12:41 7.150 SSCENB.tlx 30-03-2004 12:41 311.021 SSCENB2.clx 30-03-2004 12:41 8.385 sscepb.tlx 30-03-2004 12:41 311.004 SSCEPB2.CLX 30-03-2004 12:41 4.975 SSCEPO.TLX 30-03-2004 12:41 376.283 SSCEPO2.CLX 30-03-2004 12:41 1.756 SSCESP.tlx 13-04-2004 11:03 819.704 SSCESP2.clx 30-03-2004 12:41 424 SSCESW.tlx 30-03-2004 12:41 293.783 SSCESW2.clx This is what I've got now: 14-04-2005 14:24 748 accent.tlx 14-04-2005 14:2410.493 correct.tlx 14-04-2005 14:24 7.691 Ssceam.tlx 14-04-2005 14:24 314.165 Ssceam2.clx 14-04-2005 14:23 7.691 SSCEBR.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 314.248 sscebr12.clx 14-04-2005 14:23 7.784 ssceda.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 304.042 ssceda2.clx 14-04-2005 14:23 8.139 SSCEDU.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 571.551 SSCEDU2.clx 14-04-2005 14:2317.536 SSCEFI.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 947.604 SSCEFI2.clx 14-04-2005 14:23 5.565 SSCEFR.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 347.774 SSCEFR2.clx 14-04-2005 14:23 9.186 sscegn.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 862.269 sscegn2.clx 14-04-2005 14:23 9.186 sscego.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 865.832 sscego2.clx 14-04-2005 14:23 7.747 SSCEIT.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 766.710 SSCEIT2.clx 14-04-2005 14:23 7.150 SSCENB.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 311.021 SSCENB2.clx 14-04-2005 14:23 8.385 sscepb.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 311.004 SSCEPB2.CLX 14-04-2005 14:23 4.975 SSCEPO.TLX 14-04-2005 14:23 376.283 SSCEPO2.CLX 14-04-2005 14:23 1.756 SSCESP.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 819.704 SSCESP2.clx 14-04-2005 14:23 424 SSCESW.tlx 14-04-2005 14:23 293.783 SSCESW2.clx 14-04-2005 14:24 179 userdic.tlx -- Groetjes, Roelof If at first you don't succeed, you must be using Windows. The Bat! 3.5.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpLY3pUKXTDh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
On Wednesday, June 01, 2005 at 4:02:56 AM [GMT -0500], Tony Boom wrote: Your about the fifth to second it. How many seconders do we need to get the idea implemented? I have mentioned this many times before, but since this is a current group effort, I'll put a word of solidarity in as well. ;) -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.24 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished! Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.25 pro won't install correctly
Het was op woensdag 1 juni 2005 om 12:59 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.5.25 pro won't install correctly' : Hallo Ian, C Error 1901.Error attempting to read from the source C installation database: C D:\WINDOWS\Installer\37ca4a9.msi. C Retry Cancel IAW Same here. The first time it came up with IAW C:\WINDOWS\Installer\b1bf2a.msi IAW I decided to try and install again, only this time it was IAW C:\WINDOWS\Installer\b1bf90.msi IAW So it is back to 3.5.24 :-( you can always dl the exe+prop.dll; I just did that. But the msi needs work, that much is for sure. ~:) -- regards, Cees I always wanted to be somebody, but I should have been more specific. - Lily Tomlin ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5.25 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hallo Maxim, On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:32:24 +0300GMT (1-6-2005, 12:32 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi Seems to work fine. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Innocent, the Eager, and the Doomed. The Bat! 3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpFuqRSe3Mvo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25 pro won't install correctly
Just a guess, but when you click on the link for the .msi file are you selecting 'Open' rather than 'Save'? If so try again but save it first and see how you get on. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Today's Stock Market News: Scott Tissue touched a new bottom as The Sun peaked at midday. pgpP7zbLUb484.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
On Wednesday, June 01, 2005 at 5:32:24 AM [GMT -0500], Maxim Masiutin wrote: [-] Removed some AVs This one installed fine. I haven't been having any AV's for the last 3 or so builds so I can't comment on the fix. However, the Add-Remove Programs panel is in order with only one entry for TB! with an updated version number. The program group is now where it should be, i.e., not in the startup group. :) The executable shortcut has nothing in the start-in field. Though this isn't necessary. Is this wise considering the problems we've had in the past while testing etc.? Will there be offers during installation whether or not the user wishes to have shortcuts on the 'Desktop', 'Quicklauch menu' or the 'Start Menu group'? -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.25 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it. Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: 3.5.25
Hello Maxim. --On 01 June 2005 13:55 +0300 you wrote about Re[2]: 3.5.25: We will let you know when we get back to IMAP. Oh dear, I thought you already said IMAP was going to have priority during this beta cycle? Perhaps I read it wrong and you said the next beta cycle or maybe the one after that. -- Tony. M. pgpDQX5tF12Xy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.25
Het was op woensdag 1 juni 2005 om 13:05 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.5.25' : Hallo Roelof, MM www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi RO Seems to work fine. Okay, so far: two people with installation problems and two without? SOMETHING is not right. And as far as I can see from your signature our machines, or at least our OS's are'nt that different. Nice puzzle for the developpers. :) -- regards, Cees Eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow they may make it illegal. ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5.25 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blanks.
Hello Allie. --On 01 June 2005 05:57 -0500 you wrote about Re: Blanks.: You could try one of two things when this pesky problem arises. Three things. You could try using the message reload option. That occasionally works but only 10% of the time. I think a TB! restart usually treated this, I even tried a complete PC reboot with no luck. I hate being forced into the third option but at least it works, Cest La Vie. -- Tony. M. pgpIXwhHddgWP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25 pro won't install correctly
On 6/1/05, Ian A. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C also something different in the installer my guess would be, since I cannot C install. This is the error I got (wrote it down): C Error 1901.Error attempting to read from the source C installation database: C D:\WINDOWS\Installer\37ca4a9.msi. Installed fine for me, although - you guessed it - the CC still opens in the background when selecting an account from the dropdown menu on the toolbar. One other possibility for your problem - just a guess - is that you downloaded the home version when you need the pro version or vice versa. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.5.24 Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hallo Cees, On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:14:17 +0200GMT (1-6-2005, 13:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi RO Seems to work fine. C Okay, so far: two people with installation problems and two without? C SOMETHING is not right. Yes and it's save to say that it's on your side. :gdr: C And as far as I can see from your signature our machines, or at least our C OS's are'nt that different. I even guess they're using the same language. C Nice puzzle for the developpers. :) So here's the procedure I followed: Clicked on the link Downloaded the pro msi Closed all programs Closed this xp user account switched to an xp account with admin rights Ran the downloaded msi Switched accounts again Started TB The switching of accounts shouldn't matter, but I prefer to have XP running in a restricted user account, that's why I'm doing that. Are you doing anything different? Like running the .msi from the internet or while TB is open. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, vidi, vacuum, (I came, I saw--nothing.) The Bat! 3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpLui9j7Wuy9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.25
Het was op woensdag 1 juni 2005 om 13:26 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.5.25' : Hallo Roelof, RO Seems to work fine. C Okay, so far: two people with installation problems and two without? C SOMETHING is not right. RO Yes and it's save to say that it's on your side. :gdr: thank you :banshee: C And as far as I can see from your signature our machines, or at least our C OS's are'nt that different. RO I even guess they're using the same language. I'm using US version. C Nice puzzle for the developpers. :) RO So here's the procedure I followed: RO Clicked on the link RO Downloaded the pro msi RO Closed all programs RO Closed this xp user account RO switched to an xp account with admin rights RO Ran the downloaded msi same here, except for the switching of accounts. RO Switched accounts again RO Started TB RO The switching of accounts shouldn't matter, but I prefer to have XP RO running in a restricted user account, that's why I'm doing that. Are RO you doing anything different? Like running the .msi from the internet RO or while TB is open. Nope... of course I closed tb :rofl2: But to be on the save side: I'll try again! -- regards, Cees More should be written! Much! Much! More! I'm stealing taglines... :) ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5.25 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: 3.5.25
Het was op woensdag 1 juni 2005 om 13:31 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.5.25' : Hallo Cees, C But to be on the save side: I'll try again! and never again :-) Same problem! I rest my case: something is definitely wrong and not on my side. -- regards, Cees It's a fine night to have an evening. ___ The Bat! :bat2angel: 3.5.25 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.25
Hello Allie, Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 2:09:55 PM, you wrote: Will there be offers during installation whether or not the user wishes to have shortcuts on the 'Desktop', 'Quicklauch menu' or the 'Start Menu group'? We will try to do that in future. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.25 pro won't install correctly
Hello Ian, Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 1:59:44 PM, you wrote: Same here. The first time it came up with C:\WINDOWS\Installer\b1bf2a.msi Did you try to verify the digital signature of the file? If the signature was invalid, please donwload the file again. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hi Maxim, On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, at 13:32:24 [GMT +0300] (which was 12:32 where I live) you wrote about: '3.5.25' [-] Removed some AVs www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb3525.rar www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-5-25.msi I installed tb3525.rar but it does not have solved my External Exception 0x8003 problem. This time I received one at memory address 0068332e. Back to 3.0.2.10. :-( I hope you can fix this. I really like some of the new features, but stability is more important than new features. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.25
Hello Robert, Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 2:59:52 PM, you wrote: I installed tb3525.rar but it does not have solved my External Exception 0x8003 problem. This time I received one at memory address 0068332e. Back to 3.0.2.10. :-( When does it ocur, on enter, or on exit, or during the work? Do you have any plugins? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Little bug quoting when using RTV and Smileys
Hello Natasha, You also using regular expressions in your reply template? Could be this is causing your problem. No, no RegExp in my templates. Its is not _my_ problem because I normally don't use RTV. What I did yesterday was to verify that there is a problem and that this problem explains why some other people do not include smileys when quoting. As an example, take mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from Tony Boom yesterday. He was replying to me and I noticed that, when quoting me, the ;-) I had included in my message was not quoted. Tony, if you read this, do you normally use RTV? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, at 13:32:24 [GMT +0300] (which was 12:32 where I live) Maxim Masiutin wrote: www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi Up and running! Have not had any AV with 3.5.24 though ;-) -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.5.25 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x6C9F6CE78C32408B Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpLgwCTqty3n.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hello Maxim, www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi Installed and up and running smoothly. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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How to create the X-Rogue: header
You can do that with this macro:
%SetHeader('X-Rogue',':your_handle:')%- in your templates for
this and other tb-lists.
However, the macro alone won't do the trick.
TB'll say: 'Hey, that's not any RFC822 header I know about', so
you'll have to define it as such:
Options .. Preferences .. Messages .. Message headers .. 'Add'
Now you'll get a pop-up to define the header
Display as: X-Rogue (or whatever, it isn't very important)
RFC header: X-Rogue
Uncheck: 'This field is an address list' (because it isn't)
Check: 'Allow this field to be edited in the message editor'
Uncheck: 'Display this field in the scrollable part of the
header pane'
Now you're done and every TB-user can see your lovable face when
they've installed the roguemoticons.
For you to see peoples faces:
To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. Fetch
the following file:
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip
Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation
directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images
You should now have a directory called 'rogues' containing many
images as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory.
Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now
hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus. This will re-fetch
TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images.
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Re: 3.5.25
On Wednesday, June 01, 2005 at 6:13:44 AM [GMT -0500], Tony Boom wrote: Oh dear, I thought you already said IMAP was going to have priority during this beta cycle? Perhaps I read it wrong and you said the next beta cycle or maybe the one after that. This seems to be a fix cycle rather than an all out new features/enhancements cycle. :) What seemed to start this series was the problems that arose with the initial service release for v3.5. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.25 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Reality is always more conservative than ideology. Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hæ! Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 12:32, Maxim Masiutin wrote: www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi Are you sure the file is up for download? I get a 404 error. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.5.24 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows XP Pro (v5.1.2600) Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25 pro won't install correctly
When I did it, it was Save. Well, as I said, it was a guess. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. pgpaWfukJ1lSU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hæ! Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 14:00, MAU wrote: Installed and up and running smoothly. I only get to the 404 - HTTP not found page. No Pro nor Home-MSI available. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.5.24 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows XP Pro (v5.1.2600) Listening to: Deutschlandradio Kultur Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
On 6/1/05, George M. Menegakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 6:44:38 PM, Ming Chang wrote: Maybe it is confusing but it is the way it should be. It's good that each Software should never be confusing. Especially something as fundamental as an MUA. At the end of the day, it's just a tool that is supposed to facilitate productivity. I don't really have any strong feelings on this one since I don't often use templates, but if it's confusing, it's a valid usability complaint I would think. -- Kevin Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hi Thorvald, On 01/06/2005 02:29 PM +0200, you wrote: Are you sure the file is up for download? I and others have downloaded and installed it, so I guess it must be there. :) -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects. Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Re: 3.5.25
Hello Thorvald, Installed and up and running smoothly. I only get to the 404 - HTTP not found page. No Pro nor Home-MSI available. Yes, I downloaded fine but there seems to be some problem now. I just tried and get a The page cannot be displayed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: (no subject)
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, at 14:44:10 [GMT +0200] (which was 14:44 where I live) Renate Brentjes wrote: unsubscribe http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.5.25 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x6C9F6CE78C32408B Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpJU4eYrdoRN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.5.25 - the new download URL
Hello Tbbeta, www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-5-25.msi -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.25
Hello Thorvald, Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 3:29:25 PM, you wrote: www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi Are you sure the file is up for download? I get a 404 error. I apologize, I've just changed the URL. The correct URL is www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-5-25.msi -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.25 pro won't install correctly
Hello Ian, Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 3:27:52 PM, you wrote: Same here. The first time it came up with C:\WINDOWS\Installer\b1bf2a.msi MM Did you try to verify the digital signature of the file? I'll ask. How does one do this? I did not receive any warning when I tried to install it. If you click right mouse button on the MSI file in Windows Explorer and choose Properties, there will be Digital Signatures tab. You'll be able to check the signature there. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hi Thorvald, --On Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:29 PM +0200 you wrote in part: www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi Are you sure the file is up for download? I get a 404 error. same for me. I cannot download the msi ... 404 -- Gary Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25 - the new download URL
Hi Maxim, --On Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:56 PM +0300 you wrote in part: www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi I get an immediate AV. TB! will not run. -- Gary attachment: av.jpg Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: (no subject)
Hello Renate. --On 01 June 2005 14:44 +0200 you wrote about (no subject): unsubscribe The thought had crossed my mind as well. -- Tony. M. pgpBlA6BLxMZa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Inside Tony's mind [Was: no subject]
Reply to message sent 6/1/2005, @ 14:10:12 (8:10 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Tony, The thought had crossed my mind as well. As if. It's your form of irritainment. You'll never give it up. -- t'hy'la, ò¸ó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.5.25] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Little bug quoting when using RTV and Smileys
Hello MAU! On Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 7:51 PM, you wrote: I have just noticed that if someone using RTV and Use smiley icons in HTML viewer replies to a message quoting a paragraph that includes a smiley, the smiley is not quoted. Yes. It has been this way since 3.0.1.33. I got into a misunderstanding right here on TBBETA because of it. The bug turned up in the pre-3.0 series, was somehow fixed in 3.0, and then returned in the 3.0.1.33 fix version. The smiley will be quoted in the middle of a line, but not at the end, or standing alone on a separate line. In a discussion here, one of the developers told me that it couldn't be fixed. So I've been using the work-around of switching briefly to PTV before quoting a message with smileys in it. (Thankful for the context menu for message bodies allowing an easy switch between PTV and RTV!) No one seemed to be bothered by this little bug except me, so I shut up about it. But it does have the potential to do some harm in inter-personal relationships, besides simply being confusing. Try it by replaying and quoting this line ;-) Didn't even need to try! Knew all along--but didn't think about it in connection with Liz's missing your smiley. You don't even need to send the reply, you will see it in the editor window. True!! But even if one has noticed the smiley, one may not notice the failure to quote it, unless sensitized to it, as I am. Now I understand why Liz misunderstood Tony's reply to my joking about his digital signature. Using RTV but _not_ the Use smiley icons in HTML viewer option, the ASCII smiley is quoted just fine. Yes, but then the smiley images--which I do still enjoy seeing in messages--are not displayed in the original message; only the ASCII text which calls the images. Confirmations? Fully confirmed. I do indeed wish there were a way this could be fixed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.24 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Little bug quoting when using RTV and Smileys
Hello MAU! On Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 8:14 PM, you wrote: Darn! I've just found out that it doesn't happen all the time. But I can't find a pattern of why it fails some times and some other times not. Oh well, it's late here. Maybe tomorrow :) Also confirmed. Maybe that's why the developers told me it couldn't be fixed. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.24 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Little bug quoting when using RTV and Smileys
Hello MAU! On Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 8:04 PM, you wrote: Try it by replaying and quoting this line ;-) Darn! I've just found out that it doesn't happen all the time. The line above is quoted fine, smiley included. However, see the quote below from a message from Mary Bull: The line above wouldn't quote for me when I replied to your original message just now. But--same line of text--it did quote (from RTV, with Use Smiley ... ticked) just fine. Go figure. That's how I recognize him, too! That, and his distinctly definitive accent! It had an smiley at the end and it is not included when quoted. Yes. I am absolutely buffaloed by this random behavior. :woe: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.24 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello George! On Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 2:07 AM, you wrote: I'd like an auto PGP verification notice in the header pane instead of having to click an icon and a separate window appear. Amen !!! Seconded ! Not me. I like it the way it is. So, choice of which way should be optional, IMHO. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.24 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Little bug quoting when using RTV and Smileys
Hello Natasha! On Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 3:17 AM, you wrote: M It had an smiley at the end and it is not included when quoted. A different style of smiley, though: ;) instead of ;-) This I can affirm is not significant. Quoting or failing to quote happens randomly, no matter the style. If it is set to call an image from the Default smiley folder in The Bat!, it will randomly fail to quote at the end or in a line to itself. This happens both in a full quote of the message body text or in a selected quote, no matter how carefully the highlighting positioning is done. You also using regular expressions in your reply template? Could be this is causing your problem. Could you explain how this might play into the mix? I do have regular expressions in my reply template. P.S., OT: I enjoyed so much your comment on my postings to the OT tongue-twister/woodchuck thread. I would have replied, but was afraid of saying too much, in OT mode. Anyway, belated thanks for that. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.24 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Subject text is jumping
Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 12:52:11 AM, (Internet Time - @286) you wrote: Hello Prezes, P Hello, P Subject text is jumping: P 1. Create new mail, but not add anything (like recipient, etc). P 2. Add any attachement. P 3. By TAB go to Subject field - write anything, like subject. P 4. Press TAB (selections goes to attachement) and then TAB - P selection goes to messages body, but subject is jumping :-) P https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4671 Confirmed. Happens in 3.5.25 also... -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.5.25 On Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello Tony! On Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 5:06 AM, you wrote, in part: a PGP key verification window popping up in my face automatically. :) ) Me too, that's why I've asked for an unobtrusive note on the header pane rather than having the whole PGP GUI pop up every time you click the button. Ah. Okay. I didn't understand that part. If it's unobtrusive, I don't mind a bit it's being handled this way. It's only on mailing lists that I don't care whether a sig verifies or not. When I'm using PGP in private mails, I do agree, it's important both that it verify and that it decrypt stably, accurately, and reliably. PGP's functioning with The Bat! indeed should be done correctly. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.24 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
On 05-06-01 (12:32), you wrote:
www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi
404 - HTTP not found
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Re: 3.5.25
Hi Maxim, On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, at 15:05:43 [GMT +0300] (which was 14:05 where I live) you wrote about: '3.5.25' When does it ocur, on enter, or on exit, or during the work? Do you have any plugins? It occurs when I am reading messages (using the new spacebar feature). It could be possible that in the background TheBat makes a connection, I don't know. Did not pay attention. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.25
Hello all, Wednesday, June 1, 2005, Robert van der Hulst wrote: [-] Removed some AVs www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb3525.rar www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-5-25.msi I installed tb3525.rar but it does not have solved my External Exception 0x8003 problem. This time I received one at memory address 0068332e. do You have updated props.dll included in tb3523.rar? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.5.24 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Inside Tony's mind [Was: no subject]
Hello Nick. --On 01 June 2005 08:17 -0500 you wrote about Re: Inside Tony's mind [Was: no subject]: It's your form of irritainment. You'll never give it up. I know, your right, I couldn't give it up. But that's more to do with the people and the community on here rather than the reason we're all supposed to be on here... The Email client. For me, after approx four to five years of using TB I now find that it's crap with no sign of improvement. Also I hate the fact I'm forced into using a client I'd never heard of 2 weeks ago just to be able to get some degree of reliability into my email experience. If I thought something was being done to improve things I'd be a bit more amicable of the situation. Trouble is I'm being totally ignored in favour of missing icons, AV's that don't appear to exist and MSI's. Just as I think I've found a temporary solution and decide to persevere a bit longer, something else equally annoying happens and my confidence in the product takes another dive. They seem more worried about getting a Microsoft product to work rather than their own. -- Tony. M. pgpO06rZzFUhm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25 - the new download URL
Hello Maxim, www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi the message databases furthermore aren't removed if I uninstall TB!. see also: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello Mary. --On 01 June 2005 08:45 -0500 you wrote about Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things: Ah. Okay. I didn't understand that part. If it's unobtrusive, I don't mind a bit it's being handled this way. This is the sort of thing I mean, a simple extra line in the header pane. -- Tony. M.attachment: pgp.png pgpXLASm6Bj9l.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25 - the new download URL
Hello Maxim, www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi I get the error message The anti-virus has reported an error... furthermore in v3.5.25 - there are no problems in v3.0.1.33. see also: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Little bug quoting when using RTV and Smileys
Hello Mary, Yes. It has been this way since 3.0.1.33. I got into a misunderstanding right here on TBBETA because of it. The bug turned up in the pre-3.0 series, was somehow fixed in 3.0, and then returned in the 3.0.1.33 fix version. Thanks for confirming and for the whole explanation. But it does have the potential to do some harm in inter-personal relationships, besides simply being confusing. Yes, there is where I see there may be a problem. Now I'm quite sure this is what happened to Liz yesterday, she was just seeing Tony's message where the quotation of what I had written did not include the smiley. I guess I'll have to find an alternative to the use of smileys to indicate that I am not being serious some times. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello George, Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 2:56:28 PM, you wrote: GMM Maybe it is confusing but it is the way it should be. It's good that each GMM folder and each person has the ability to use different templates. Yes, so how about give us the ability to choose predefine template or input folder/contact/account specified template. Just like the scheduler, the create/send message action, it can use predefine QT as well as inputted template. -- Best regards, Ming Changmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translator of Chinese The Bat! Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Windows 2000 Advanced Server (v5.0.2195, Service Pack 4) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25 - the new download URL
Hello Maxim! On Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 7:56 AM, you wrote: www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi Up and running. No problems so far. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.25 (Professional) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hello Allie. --On 01 June 2005 06:58 -0500 you wrote about Re: 3.5.25: This seems to be a fix cycle rather than an all out new features/enhancements cycle. :) Thing is Allie, I'm not asking for new features or enhancements. These just add dozens of new bugs. All I'd like is for existing features to be fixed and working before adding new ones. Take the MSI installer issue. What happened to the old installer? It worked perfect! I don't remember there ever being installation problems with it. What happened to the old adage If it ain't broke don't fix it? That seems to have been translated by RIT into If it ain't broke dump it in favour of something that is then spend months sodding about with it at the expense of everything else We had a *perfectly good* installer and it's been removed in favour of something that is far from working at all let alone being anywhere near good! Par for the course though isn't it? -- Tony. M. pgpYhSDYdmkyh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello Tony! On Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 9:01 AM, you wrote: Ah. Okay. I didn't understand that part. If it's unobtrusive, I don't mind a bit it's being handled this way. This is the sort of thing I mean, a simple extra line in the header pane. I would not mind that. My header pane is already two inches deep in the Message View window, anyway. grin All the better to see your Roguemoticon pic. LOL -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello Mary. --On 01 June 2005 09:24 -0500 you wrote about Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things: I would not mind that. Neither would I but I'd rather they get IMAP working first. -- Tony. M. pgpRljKjwL1Dg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hi Marek, On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, at 15:50:56 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:50 where I live) you wrote about: '3.5.25' do You have updated props.dll included in tb3523.rar? Yes. Here are the file details: Thebat.exe version 3.5.25.0June 1 2005, 13:18 Verisign DateJune 1 2005 12:17:55 Props.Dllversion 1.16.0.0May 30, 2005 23:24, Verisign Datemay 30 2005 19:13:17 -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Little bug quoting when using RTV and Smileys
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 9:04 AM, you wrote: ... The bug turned up in the pre-3.0 series, was somehow fixed in 3.0, and then returned in the 3.0.1.33 fix version. Thanks for confirming and for the whole explanation. It's a subject close to my heart. smiling But it does have the potential to do some harm in inter-personal relationships, besides simply being confusing. Yes, there is where I see there may be a problem. Now I'm quite sure this is what happened to Liz yesterday, she was just seeing Tony's message where the quotation of what I had written did not include the smiley. Yes. I think so, too. Although, I had understood from previous conversations with Tony that he keeps the Smiley function disabled. However, if he was using selected quoting, just a misfire of the highlighting (omitting the end of the line) would result in the same unfortunate truncation. I guess I'll have to find an alternative to the use of smileys to indicate that I am not being serious some times. Ah, I hadn't until this minute focused on the double and triple quoting which goes on in our mailing list threads. Once a person posts, whether the smiley stays with his quote is out of that person's hands. Well, it's not nearly so convenient, but stage directions in brackets are a style that I borrow occasionally from Leif. grin The optimum solution would be for the developers to spot where things are breaking down and fix it. But I guess they don't have time, and, as you say, this is a little bug, compared to all the feature-enabling and Big Bug fixing that is on their plates. smiling sadly At any rate, I'm glad to have a little bit of TBBETA list attention to it, presently. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello Tony! On Wednesday, June 01, 2005, 9:32 AM, you wrote: I would not mind that. Neither would I but I'd rather they get IMAP working first. I look for that to be happening. Stefan has said it is a goal. I think you'll be seeing some betas relating to IMAP in the near future. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
v3.5.25 bug: Customisation vindow 2.
It relates to the whole v3.5 line: View, Toolbars, Customise: the items on this Windows does not support national characters like u and o (8859-2). At least not using English Windows. -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
v3.5.25 bug: Customisation vindow 1.
It relates to the whole v3.5 line: View, Toolbars, Customise: the names of the Available items are rather old Egypt hieroglyphs than something you would expect to give users who would like to USE the email client and dont want to spend their time finding out what is going on... -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
v3.5.25 bug: Color groups and shortcuts
Maybe I just dont find it... My previous shortcuts to mark a message with one of the Colour group easily (i.e. just pressing a shortcut) is gone after upgrade... to v3.5.25. Opening View, Toolbars, Customise, it is not possible to set shortcut for a specific colour group. -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25
Hallo Tony, On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:22:42 +0100GMT (1-6-2005, 16:22 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TB Take the MSI installer issue. What happened to the old installer? It worked TB perfect! I don't remember there ever being installation problems with it. It didn't work perfect, in fact it stopped working for me on my previous system, somewhere around v2.10 In order to install TB I had to extract the files manually wit WinRar. -- Groetjes, Roelof I love animals...they're delicious! The Bat! 3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgprwbYss7kh1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Suggestion: HTML templates
I suggest to Ritlabs to implement HTML templates. Customization of interface is just scratching a surface, the real improvements effects the main majority of the users. 10% or so will customize the surface, only the hardcore TB! users... Like users on this list. But we have to keep in mind, we are not the majority. Competition (PocoMail etc.) are watching and is very strong, TB! can be on top if it always include something really new, really user friendly stuff. Like macros were... And RELIABILITY. Building new stuff is good. But reliability should be ALWAYS in focus... Sorry, I did not want to preach... :)) -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: v3.5.25 bug: Color groups and shortcuts
Hallo Vili, On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 15:02:31 GMTGMT (1-6-2005, 17:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TBS My previous shortcuts to mark a message with one of the Colour group TBS easily (i.e. just pressing a shortcut) is gone after upgrade... TBS to v3.5.25. Opening View, Toolbars, Customise, it is not possible TBS to set shortcut for a specific colour group. That was impossible as soon as the new customization model was introduced. However, you can work around this problem by creating a filter with your color group as action. You can still assign shortcuts to filters. -- Groetjes, Roelof Everyone is entitled to my opinion. The Bat! 3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpIO00d5XbDw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.5.25: SMTP server settings
I guess, this issue was around a long-long time ago... When someone use TB!, the SMTP server is always the same (some exception possible). When I am on the road, I would like to use a different provider, so I have to go to each account's setting and set the SMTP server. Or, what I can do is, use a SMTP server software. But some email client think then that I am a spammer... So: why is not a Global SMTP server setting somewhere in the program? I guess, this would be USEFUL, a REAL improvement... Many of use use laptops, some of us on the road, connecting motels' wireless network... Why do we have to use webmail? -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: v3.5.25 bug: Color groups and shortcuts
TBS My previous shortcuts to mark a message with one of the Colour group TBS easily (i.e. just pressing a shortcut) is gone after upgrade... TBS to v3.5.25. Opening View, Toolbars, Customise, it is not possible TBS to set shortcut for a specific colour group. That was impossible as soon as the new customization model was introduced. However, you can work around this problem by creating a filter with your color group as action. You can still assign shortcuts to filters. Thank you, Roelof! I dont understand, why we have to LEARN new techniques to get old things working ALL THE TIME a new major version is out :( I guess, it is a lack of vision and plans... -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello Mary. --On 01 June 2005 09:43 -0500 you wrote about Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things: I think you'll be seeing some betas relating to IMAP in the near future. Until that time I think I'll carry on studying telepathy :) -- Tony. M. pgpuPtWVnmtwQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
