Re: [!! SPAM] Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Gunivortus,

 URL Manager for Retrieval of HTML Images

 Maybe I need to clean my specs where do I find that
 URL Manager?

It is a bit tricky to find it at first. Since it only applies to HTML
messages with in-line images it is only accessible when you select and
view one such a message. Actually, and by default, it should pop up
automagically when you select the message. But if it doesn't, you should
get 'world with a question mark' icon to the right of the header pane.
Click on it.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.2 ALPHA

2007-12-23 Thread Livio
Hello Marek,
Saturday, December 22, 2007, 9:40:20 PM, you wrote:
 Hello all,
 Saturday, December 22, 2007, Livio wrote:
 I have the problem that you see in attached files.
 TheBat Pro with master password
 please add description of issue.

oh yes.. excuse my poor english..
when i open the tree of an account, the dimension of the column name 
increases
and moves the columns unread e total that hide; to see the columns I must
reduce it dimension  (open.gif);
when i close the tree, the column name reduce it and i see a blank space 
(close.gif).
I think that the column name must maintain the same dimension but it
doesn't.

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2 - Folder Tabs and address history

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello drifthat,

?1.) I noticed that when I use the Unread tab, the Account name is now
shown. Hurray! However, it is on the very right, and I would prefer
?it on the left, before the name of the folder. I couldn't find a way
to switch the order. Is there any?

 IMO, a treeview would be better, just like normal account tree pane

Fully agree.

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Jens,

  Headers and free space in windows have nice gradient background;

 'Nice' is just an opinion. Some of us think it is 'ugly'.

 I don't need this, i prefer a Uni-Color Background.

 See what i see:

I have no real problem with the header pane background because it allows
you to change it to your preferred colour. _My_ problem now is with Tab
bars in Message List, Preview and Folder Tree panes and with the Status
bar at the bottom of main window. There is (or I have not found) no way
to change those.

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Uwe,

 It looks like once you have Allowed/Blocked a URL the only option is to
 Block/Allow it. The Remove button doesn't seem to do anything.

 Confirmed - as a workaround you can edit urlmgr.xml in the mail
 directory.

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6569

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Suggestions for the new Addresses History Tab

2007-12-23 Thread Robert van der Hulst
I really like the idea of the Addresses History (AH) tab, but I have some
comments to it. I would like to share these with you and ask for some
feedback.

A I would like to see an option to show the addresses from my Address
Book rather than all the addresses collected from the message base.
The ones in the Address book are more valuable to me than the others.

B Sometimes people use more than one address. In the address book you
can add multiple addresses for one person. I would like to see these
people as one entry in the Addresses History. Would that be possible?
(if A is implemented then this is automatic)

C In the settings for the AH tab I have specified that it should
collect addresses for outgoing messages only. Yet I see :
- Addresses wit no 'Last Out Date'
- Addresses from messages that were send to me (i was in the CC list).
Some of these have a 'Last Out' date as well, but I never wrote to
these people
Is this a bug? Can others confirm this ?

D he 'AH Settings dialog allows you to specify the 'Folders to scan'.
The dialog for this does not allow you to mark a group of subfolders
by selecting a parent. I see that on more dialogs in TB (for example
also on the 'Select Folders' dialog for Virtual folders. On the
Message finder there are context menu options to select an entire
account of a folder and all its subfolders. I would like to see that
same functionality all over the system. That would make selecting
folders MUCH easiers.


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Re: URL download manager

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

  Where is the menu entry to access the URL download manager?

There isn't one. You will have to use Customiser if you want to have it
available in a menu.

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4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello all,

I have a couple of folders where I thread by Subject. In previous
versions (up to 3.99.29) I could select the 'group' and when hitting
Delete (or selecting it from menu) I would get a confirmation dialog
saying:

---
Delete messages
---
The selection contains groups. Do you really want to delete them?
---
Sí   No   
---

If if my answer was 'Yes', ALL messages in the group would be deleted.

In current version, when selecting the 'group' the Delete key doesn't do
anything and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out) in menu.

If this a bug or a new intended behaviour? If not a bug, why the change?
I think that getting the confirmation dialog was safe enough, more
specially so when you also have the option to Undelete.

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Re: Resolved/Verify wait issues in Bugtraq

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Marek,

 please check Bugtraq and close/resolve bugreports, which are in
 Resolved/Verify wait status and You added note or reported it.

Can _you_ close https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1440 ?

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Saturday, December 22, 2007, MAU wrote:

 I fear CSAPI will be not supported for a long time, only very old
 dictionaries from Office 97 works now and there are licence
 limitations.

 That's what I use, my Office 97 dictionaries. They are much better than
 the ones included with TB. At least were so years ago when I started
 using them. Why remove CSAPI support?

as I know, something with licence of Microsoft

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Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 In current version, when selecting the 'group' the Delete key doesn't do
 anything and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out) in menu.

 If this a bug or a new intended behaviour? If not a bug, why the change?
 I think that getting the confirmation dialog was safe enough, more
 specially so when you also have the option to Undelete.


I had forgotten about the Thread/Delete (Shift+Ctrl+M) option. It still
works, but with no confirmation dialog. It just deletes the thread.

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Re: URL download manager

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, December 23, 2007, Peter Hampf wrote:

   Where is the menu entry to access the URL download manager?

it is not yet, I have asked already

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2 - Folder Tabs and address history

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, December 23, 2007, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 1.) I noticed that when I use the Unread tab, the Account name is now
 shown. Hurray! However, it is on the very right, and I would prefer
 it on the left, before the name of the folder. I couldn't find a way to
 switch the order. Is there any?

click to View | Folder tabs or with right mouse button on any folder tab and
select Configure tabs,You can select/unselect them, change order and edit
Favourite tabs

 2.) I played with Address History. Without folder tabs, I could find no
 way to go back to showing the account tree again, the only way was
 to exit TB! and restart. Esc should work here. With folder tabs shown, I
 could just click on the All folder.

click to View | Folder tabs | Switch to

 4.) Are you working on the HTML editor?

AFAIK on Microed

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Re: Resolved/Verify wait issues in Bugtraq

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, December 23, 2007, MAU wrote:

 please check Bugtraq and close/resolve bugreports, which are in
 Resolved/Verify wait status and You added note or reported it.

 Can _you_ close https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1440 ?

Resolved and Closed. Thanks

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4.0.0.2 - delete key still doesn't work

2007-12-23 Thread Peter Kaleve
Hello Maxim,

as reported with version 3.99.29 deleting messages using the delete key on the
keyboard doesn't work under NT4...

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Marek,

 I fear CSAPI will be not supported for a long time, only very old
 dictionaries from Office 97 works now and there are licence
 limitations.

 That's what I use, my Office 97 dictionaries. They are much better than
 the ones included with TB. At least were so years ago when I started
 using them. Why remove CSAPI support?

 as I know, something with licence of Microsoft

You are right. Googling for CSAPI I found this:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/262605

And yes, it clearly says:

,- [  ]
| Note: CSAPI may not be used to call into Microsoft's spell check engine
| and lexicon. For example, third-party developers who want to incorporate
| spell check capabilities into their own applications may not use CSAPI
| to access the spell check engine and lexicons that are installed by
| Microsoft Office. Microsoft does not currently provide spell check
| utilities for use in third-party products.
`-

I will certainly miss my Office 97 dictionaries when CSAPI support is
removed from TB :-(

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, December 23, 2007, MAU wrote:

 I will certainly miss my Office 97 dictionaries when CSAPI support is
 removed from TB :-(

Spanish Word List for SSCE has 288000 words, is it not enough? ;-)

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Marek,

 I will certainly miss my Office 97 dictionaries when CSAPI support is
 removed from TB :-(

 Spanish Word List for SSCE has 288000 words, is it not enough? ;-)

It's not only the number of words what counts, I probably just use a few
hundred regularly. The engine itself is more important and, for example,
how well it deals with 'variations' of a word, like with verbs (gender,
tens, etc.) in Spanish. I decide to use CSAPI because of that many years
ago, but I'll give SSCE a try one of these days. Once it is fixed for
4.0.0.X.

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello MAU,

M I decide to use CSAPI because of that many years ago, but I'll give
M SSCE a try one of these days.

We are not going to give up CSAPI, anyway :-)

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan,

 We are not going to give up CSAPI, anyway :-)

That's a nice Christmas present. Thank you!! :-)

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2 - Folder Tabs and address history

2007-12-23 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Thomas,

TF 1.) I noticed that when I use the Unread tab, the Account name is
TF now shown. Hurray! However, it is on the very right, and I would
TF prefer it on the left, before the name of the folder. I couldn't
TF find a way to switch the order. Is there any?

Just right click the column headers :-)

TF 2.) I played with Address History. Without folder tabs, I could
TF find no way to go back to showing the account tree again,

It's still in the main menu's View|

Folder Tabs

TF 3.) I noticed that the Menu Navigator is gone. RIP or WIP?

It's TIP (T stands for thinking), actually :-)

TF 4.) Are you working on the HTML editor?

Not for .0 version. The 4.0 will include new MicroEd which will be
supporting proportional fonts and Unicode and lots of little helpful
additions (and - let's hope - no omissions).


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Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject

2007-12-23 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello MAU,


M In current version, when selecting the 'group' the Delete key doesn't do
M anything and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out) in menu.

M If this a bug or a new intended behaviour? If not a bug, why the change?

It's a bug, definitely.


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Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, December 23, 2007, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

M In current version, when selecting the 'group' the Delete key doesn't do
M anything and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out) in menu.

M If this a bug or a new intended behaviour? If not a bug, why the change?

 It's a bug, definitely.

seems other confirmations dialogs are not working too, TB stopped
displaying confirmation before saving message with empty subject,
I have it enabled.

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Marek,

 That's what I use, my Office 97 dictionaries. They are much better than
 the ones included with TB. At least were so years ago when I started
 using them. Why remove CSAPI support?

MM as I know, something with licence of Microsoft

The legal issue with CSAPI arises when one tries to use Microsoft's
dictionaries (though I still don't have any idea why a user should be
limited in use of the software she/he already paid for). When non
Microsoft dictionaries are used - no problem, AFAIK. This allows
Russian users to use the Orfo dictionary, for example.

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Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject

2007-12-23 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Marek,

MM seems other confirmations dialogs are not working too, TB stopped
MM displaying confirmation before saving message with empty subject,
MM I have it enabled.

Here, all confirmations are working... I wonder whether it has
something to do with Maxim's compilation...


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Re[2]: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Jens,

Sunday, December 23, 2007, 3:48:00, you wrote:

The HTML URL Download Manager is the Switch to allow downloads from
allowed URL _ALLWAYS_, not depending on the Mail.

I'd minimal like to select a AND Statement to an Sender oder
Destination E-Mail Adress.

The e-mail addresses are not trustworty unless a message have a digital 
signature.

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Re: Suggestions for the new Addresses History Tab

2007-12-23 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Robert,
Sunday, December 23, 2007, 3:57:35 AM, you wrote:

RvdH A I would like to see an option to show the addresses from my Address
RvdH Book rather than all the addresses collected from the message base.
RvdH The ones in the Address book are more valuable to me than the others.

Seems reasonable.

RvdH B Sometimes people use more than one address. In the address book you
RvdH can add multiple addresses for one person. I would like to see these
RvdH people as one entry in the Addresses History. Would that be possible?
RvdH (if A is implemented then this is automatic)

As you say if A then B.

RvdH C In the settings for the AH tab I have specified that it should
RvdH collect addresses for outgoing messages only. Yet I see :
RvdH - Addresses wit no 'Last Out Date'
RvdH - Addresses from messages that were send to me (i was in the CC list).
RvdH Some of these have a 'Last Out' date as well, but I never wrote to
RvdH these people
RvdH Is this a bug? Can others confirm this ?

I  am  set  up  to  only  show  Outgoing addresses, otherwise the list
becomes unmanagable.

RvdH D he 'AH Settings dialog allows you to specify the 'Folders to scan'.
RvdH The dialog for this does not allow you to mark a group of subfolders
RvdH by selecting a parent. I see that on more dialogs in TB (for example
RvdH also on the 'Select Folders' dialog for Virtual folders. On the
RvdH Message finder there are context menu options to select an entire
RvdH account of a folder and all its subfolders. I would like to see that
RvdH same functionality all over the system. That would make selecting
RvdH folders MUCH easiers.

Yes would be easier, although, see my answer to C.


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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.2 ALPHA

2007-12-23 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Maxim,
 
the Verify OpenPGP Signature button is not visible under w2k.

see attach [1]

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.2 ALPHA

2007-12-23 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Miroslav,

on Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:32:49 +0100GMT (23.12.2007, 15:32 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MF the Verify OpenPGP Signature button is not visible under w2k.

Confirmed.

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Re: 4.0.0.2 - delete key still doesn't work

2007-12-23 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Peter,

PK as reported with version 3.99.29 deleting messages using the delete key on 
the
PK keyboard doesn't work under NT4...

Confirmed, but there is a problem - we cannot debug TB! under NT 4 :-(


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Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan,

M In current version, when selecting the 'group' the Delete key doesn't do
M anything and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out) in menu.

M If this a bug or a new intended behaviour? If not a bug, why the change?

 It's a bug, definitely.

And it has a BT number now:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6573

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4.0.0.2: Why ask for password each time a folder is moved to a password protected account?

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello all,

Because end of year I am moving a number of folders from my main account
to my password protected Archive account.

To 'Alt+drag' the folder(s) to where I want within the Archive account
folder tree, I have to first open it (and type password) so I can see
its folder tree. Anyway, each time I move (Alt+drag) a folder (and once
I select where I want it moved) I am asked for the password again.

Bug or feature?

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.2 ALPHA

2007-12-23 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Maxim,
 
The Bat! 4.0.0.2 ALPHA does not start under Win98.

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2 - Folder Tabs and address history

2007-12-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek,

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:23:41 +0100 GMT (23/12/2007, 18:23 +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:

 1.) I noticed that when I use the Unread tab, the Account name is now
 shown. Hurray! However, it is on the very right, and I would prefer
 it on the left, before the name of the folder. I couldn't find a way to
 switch the order. Is there any?

MM click to View | Folder tabs or with right mouse button on any folder tab and
MM select Configure tabs,You can select/unselect them, change order and edit
MM Favourite tabs

You  misunderstood: I didn't mean the order of the tabs, but the order
of the columns in the Unread tab. Stefan has already pointed me into
the right direction.

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2 - Folder Tabs and address history

2007-12-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:18:58 +0100 GMT (23/12/2007, 16:18 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

?1.) I noticed that when I use the Unread tab, the Account name is now
shown. Hurray! However, it is on the very right, and I would prefer
?it on the left, before the name of the folder. I couldn't find a way
to switch the order. Is there any?

 IMO, a treeview would be better, just like normal account tree pane

M Fully agree.

Yes, I would second that too.

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2 - Folder Tabs and address history

2007-12-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stefan,

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:54:00 +0200 GMT (23/12/2007, 20:54 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

TF 1.) I noticed that when I use the Unread tab, the Account name is
TF now shown. Hurray! However, it is on the very right, and I would
TF prefer it on the left, before the name of the folder. I couldn't
TF find a way to switch the order. Is there any?

ST Just right click the column headers :-)

Thanks, that did the trick!

TF 2.) I played with Address History. Without folder tabs, I could
TF find no way to go back to showing the account tree again,

ST It's still in the main menu's View|

ST Folder Tabs

True, but too hidden. I was lost and actually closed and restarted
TB!, and I'm not a novice user. Suggestions:

a.) When folder tabs are not shown and the user finds himself in the
Address History, make the tabs visible automagically, so that the
useer sees how he can get back.

b.) Allow the esc key to go back to All. This is actually what I
expected when I couldn't go back, so it would be my favourite
solution.

TF 3.) I noticed that the Menu Navigator is gone. RIP or WIP?

ST It's TIP (T stands for thinking), actually :-)

;-)

TF 4.) Are you working on the HTML editor?

ST Not for .0 version. The 4.0 will include new MicroEd which will be
ST supporting proportional fonts and Unicode and lots of little helpful
ST additions (and - let's hope - no omissions).

Fair enough, important editor improvements. However, an HTML editor
becomes increasingly important in today's business world, and it is
one of the drawbacks of using TB! in the office.

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Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject

2007-12-23 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Sunday, December 23, 2007, 8:48:27 AM, Peter Hampf wrote:

 here it also prompts me when I try to save a message without a
 subject.

I didn't get a prompt, but I can't find the spot to be sure it's set
to do so.

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Uwe,

@23-Dec-2007, 00:36 +0100 (22-Dec 23:36 here) Uwe Steinfeld [US] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to MAU:

 It looks like once you have Allowed/Blocked a URL the only option is to
 Block/Allow it. The Remove button doesn't seem to do anything.

US Confirmed - as a workaround you can edit urlmgr.xml in the mail
US directory.

Not asking you necessarily, but generally to the list and specifically
to Max and Marek, will the urlmgr.xml include wildcards in blocked /
allowed URLs? For instance, I get a Web specials email from my fave
gadget supplier and would like to approve any image from the specials
images folder but block anything that uses the tracking script.

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Re[2]: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread Valerye Bostan

 It looks like once you have Allowed/Blocked a URL the only option is to
 Block/Allow it. The Remove button doesn't seem to do anything.

US Confirmed - as a workaround you can edit urlmgr.xml in the mail
US directory.

This is fixed and should be available for testing soon.

MDP Not asking you necessarily, but generally to the list and specifically
MDP to Max and Marek, will the urlmgr.xml include wildcards in blocked /
MDP allowed URLs? For instance, I get a Web specials email from my fave
MDP gadget supplier and would like to approve any image from the specials
MDP images folder but block anything that uses the tracking script.

Wildcard editing is planned and will be introduced in a developed version
of current URL Manager.

Other features on todo list regarding URL Manager are:
o UI to set up proxy settings (at this moment feature available
by manually changing urlmgr.xml proxy host= port= enabled=1/
key)
o UI to clear local cache, set download options.
o maybe some other tweaking options.
o signed email sender trusting (for image downloading)

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Re[2]: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread Valerye Bostan
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, at 10:32:18 [GMT +0100] (which was 11:32 where I
live) you wrote:

  Headers and free space in windows have nice gradient background;

 'Nice' is just an opinion. Some of us think it is 'ugly'.

 I don't need this, i prefer a Uni-Color Background.

 See what i see:

M I have no real problem with the header pane background because it allows
M you to change it to your preferred colour. _My_ problem now is with Tab
M bars in Message List, Preview and Folder Tree panes and with the Status
M bar at the bottom of main window. There is (or I have not found) no way
M to change those.

Please, dont get stressed by this alpha's new features, like gradient
controls, yet - I will urge to tell, that contrast color schemes for
such controls are close todo list items. This includes system
standard background/foreground colors, look simplicity, and narrator
support.

Btw, those items are somewhat skinnable, if user provides similar
sized art parts, widely customizable soon in a way similar to program
icons.

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4.0.0.2 - AV on exit during compressing folder

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello,
I got this AV now when TB finishes compressing of folders

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Access violation at address 008ADD67 in module 'Thebat.exe'. Read of address 
0008.
---
OK   
---
  

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Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, December 23, 2007, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

MM seems other confirmations dialogs are not working too, TB stopped
MM displaying confirmation before saving message with empty subject,
MM I have it enabled.

 Here, all confirmations are working... I wonder whether it has
 something to do with Maxim's compilation...

do not understand why, but registry entry Empty Subject Warning have
allways 0 value, even I check this option in Preferences.

And when I filled 1 manually and started TB, this options stays
disabled...

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Re: 4.0.0.2 - AV on exit during compressing folder

2007-12-23 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Marek,

on  Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:21:06 +0100GMT (23.12.2007, 18:21 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM Hello,
MM I got this AV now when TB finishes compressing of folders

MM ---
MM The Bat!
MM ---
MM Access violation at address 008ADD67 in module 'Thebat.exe'. Read of 
address 0008.
MM ---
MM OK   
MM ---

I just ran Purge  Compress on all folders - no AV. hmm

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Question on the Spell Checker

2007-12-23 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Sunday, December 23, 2007

Any thoughts on when we will see a test version with the Spell Checker
in place?

Thanks!

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Stefan,

Sunday, December 23, 2007, 2:53:15 PM, you wrote:

 We are not going to give up CSAPI, anyway :-)

Thank you! Without CSAPI I cannot use spell check for Greek!

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Re: 4.0.0.2 - AV on exit during compressing folder

2007-12-23 Thread Cees
Het was zondag 23 december 2007 om 18:21 uur dat jij iets schreef over '4.0.0.2 
- AV on exit during compressing folder' :

Hallo Marek,

MM I got this AV now when TB finishes compressing of folders
MM Access violation at address 008ADD67 in module 'Thebat.exe'. Read of 
address 0008.

 cannot confirm it.

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Re: Question on the Spell Checker

2007-12-23 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Ethan,

Sunday, December 23, 2007, 7:54:16 PM, you wrote:

 Sunday, December 23, 2007

 Any thoughts on when we will see a test version with the Spell Checker
 in place?

 Thanks!

 Jerry

Hello,

I have seen other messages about spell checker, but here it works like a
charm both for English and Greek!

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Maxim Masiutin,

am Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2007 um 15:24 schrieben Sie:

The HTML URL Download Manager is the Switch to allow downloads from
allowed URL _ALLWAYS_, not depending on the Mail.

I'd minimal like to select a AND Statement to an Sender oder
Destination E-Mail Adress.

 The e-mail addresses are not trustworty unless a message have a digital 
 signature.

Thats right :-) I am able to talk telnet to Mailservers too ;-)
But it could be a help, if you get E-Mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you
say allow URL Downloads with [EMAIL PROTECTED] and *.dom.ain

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Re: 4.0.0.2 - AV on exit during compressing folder

2007-12-23 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Marek,

Sunday, December 23, 2007, 10:21:06 AM, you wrote:

 Hello,
 I got this AV now when TB finishes compressing of folders

 ---
 The Bat!
 ---
 Access violation at address 008ADD67 in module 'Thebat.exe'. Read of address 
 0008.
 ---
 OK   
 ---
   

I cannot confirm.  Folder maintenance works perfectlyfor me.

Win XP, SP 2 (32-bit windows, 64 bit AMD processor).

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Re[2]: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Jens,

Sunday, December 23, 2007, 10:10:12 PM, you wrote:

 The e-mail addresses are not trustworty unless a message have a digital 
 signature.

 Thats right :-) I am able to talk telnet to Mailservers too ;-)
 But it could be a help, if you get E-Mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you
 say allow URL Downloads with [EMAIL PROTECTED] and *.dom.ain

A spam message has arbitrary addresses in the From: line, taking
from the same database as the destination address. For example, I'm
getting a lot of spam with *riltabs.com in the From: line. I don't
understand how the telnet to Mailservers relates to this issue. As a
rule, a particular sender, like [EMAIL PROTECTED], uses particular http
servers for images, so you will only need to allow these http servers.

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Alternate Glyph for v4.0.x available

2007-12-23 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi folks,

the new version of the Minimal Design Glyph is now adapted to the new
changes in version v4.0.x. The icon set is optimized and tested for
Win2000, WinXP and Vista.

Enjoy...

Preview: http://thebat.zetema.de/minimal.html

 
Download including splash screen [169 KB]:
http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/minimal_batskin_v400.zip 

Download without splash screen [66 KB]:
http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/minimal_batskin_v400_no_splash.zip


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Re: Alternate Glyph for v4.0.x available

2007-12-23 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Miroslav,

on  Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:27:54 +0100GMT (23.12.2007, 22:27 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MF the new version of the Minimal Design Glyph is now adapted to the new
MF changes in version v4.0.x. The icon set is optimized and tested for
MF Win2000, WinXP and Vista.

MF Enjoy...

MF Preview: http://thebat.zetema.de/minimal.html

Thank you. It looks fine here! :)

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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.1 ALPHA

2007-12-23 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


MM Hello all,
MM Saturday, December 22, 2007, Goncalo Farias wrote:

 Actually,  they  don't  seem to work at all. I have 3 tabs on my account tree
 and 6 on my Message List they don't navigate.

MM if are all tabs visible, nothing will happen.

If some of the tabs are not visible, what's the point of navigate with
the buttons? Enlight me, please.


 Another  thing,  these  new  blue bars seem to be immune to themes. No
 matter  which  theme  I  select they stay blue. I really don't like it
 this way.

MM do not think, it will be possible to use themes for this.

It's possible but theme colors do not change those blue bars. Should I
picture this?

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.1 ALPHA

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, December 23, 2007, Goncalo Farias wrote:

MM if are all tabs visible, nothing will happen.

 If some of the tabs are not visible, what's the point of navigate with
 the buttons? Enlight me, please.

I will not, because I agree, they have no sense then.

 Another  thing,  these  new  blue bars seem to be immune to themes. No
 matter  which  theme  I  select they stay blue. I really don't like it
 this way.

MM do not think, it will be possible to use themes for this.

 It's possible but theme colors do not change those blue bars. Should I
 picture this?

no, we must wait what will developers tell about this.

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Alpha: Filtermanager Display Problem

2007-12-23 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag The Bat! Beta,

the Filtermanager is going to mix Entrys or Display with lot of Space
between or if you resize the Window it Displays actual Entry over
other Entry, see:

Cut off the Beginning, with a long line
http://www.de2all.de/thebat/Filtermanager1.jpg

Display Space between, after Scroll down
http://www.de2all.de/thebat/Filtermanager2.jpg

Display actual entry over old Entry, after Resize
http://www.de2all.de/thebat/Filtermanager3.jpg

Mix up actual with old Entry after edit (delete)
http://www.de2all.de/thebat/Filtermanager4.jpg

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Re: What's new in 4.0.0.2

2007-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Valerye,

M I have no real problem with the header pane background because it allows
M you to change it to your preferred colour. _My_ problem now is with Tab
M bars in Message List, Preview and Folder Tree panes and with the Status
M bar at the bottom of main window. There is (or I have not found) no way
M to change those.

 Please, dont get stressed by this alpha's new features, like gradient
 controls, yet - I will urge to tell, that contrast color schemes for
 such controls are close todo list items. This includes system
 standard background/foreground colors, look simplicity, and narrator
 support.

OK, I'll be patient :)

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Re: Alpha: Filtermanager Display Problem

2007-12-23 Thread Jens Franik

Here is the missing Operating System Data...

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Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, December 23, 2007, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

MM seems other confirmations dialogs are not working too, TB stopped
MM displaying confirmation before saving message with empty subject,
MM I have it enabled.

 Here, all confirmations are working... I wonder whether it has
 something to do with Maxim's compilation...

I see confirmation when marking messages as read in account or folder,
deleting parked messages or deleting message from preview, but do not see
confirmation when deleting message groups or when saving message with empty
subject.

And all 6 options are checked.

Strange, isn't it?

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Ctrl+M expands folder tree instead marks as read

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello,
when folder contains unread messages and I hit Ctrl+M, it asks (if option
checked) for marking them as read.

But when there are no unread messages, contect menu entry mark messages as
read is disabled and when I hit Ctrl+M, folder tree is expaded.

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Re: Alpha: Filtermanager Display Problem

2007-12-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens,

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:45:35 +0100 GMT (24/12/2007, 06:45 +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:

JF the Filtermanager is going to mix Entrys or Display with lot of Space
JF between or if you resize the Window it Displays actual Entry over
JF other Entry, see:

This is not new. Ever since the New Filtering System (NFS) was
introduced, TB! makes some unnecessary loops in the code and uses too
many Windows handles. The display will loop through all conditions if
you add one, and some other bugs. This will become apparent the more
conditions you have. There is more than just the display, as you will
see when you have more conditions (my filters have between 2 and 100
conditions).

Workaround: Instead of:

Sender contains Parameter1
OR Sender contains Parameter 2
OR Sender contains Parameter 3
OR ...

use only one condition:

Sender contains any of
   Parameter1
   Parameter2
   Parameter3
   ...

This will also cure the display problem you have discribed.

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Thomas.

Und heisst Du nicht Willi, dann rauch' ich im Wald.
http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

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Re: Alternate Glyph for v4.0.x available

2007-12-23 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Miroslav,

Sunday, December 23, 2007, 2:27:54 PM, you wrote:

 Hi folks,

 the new version of the Minimal Design Glyph is now adapted to the new
 changes in version v4.0.x. The icon set is optimized and tested for
 Win2000, WinXP and Vista.

 Enjoy...

 Preview: http://thebat.zetema.de/minimal.html

  
 Download including splash screen [169 KB]:
 http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/minimal_batskin_v400.zip 

 Download without splash screen [66 KB]:
 http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/minimal_batskin_v400_no_splash.zip

I went to the first link above and liked the appearance!  However, all
of the labels were in German.  I have the English language version of
TB 4.02.  If I install your Minimal Design glyph, will the English
labels for the icons/buttons appear?  And is the change in glyphs easy
to uninstall, if I try it and don't like it?

And congratulations for your very creative work on the glyphs (a new
term to me).

I found this definition for glyphs in the tech world:

glyph

In information technology, a glyph (pronounced GLIHF; from a Greek
word meaning carving) is a graphic symbol that provides the appearance
or form for a character. A glyph can be an alphabetic or numeric font
or some other symbol that pictures an encoded character.The following
is from a document written as background for the Unicode character set
standard.

An ideal characterization of characters and glyphs and their relationship 
may be stated as follows:

   1. A character conveys distinctions in meaning or sounds. A
   character has no intrinsic appearance.

   2. A glyph conveys distinctions in form. A glyph has no
   intrinsic meaning.

   3. One or more characters may be depicted by one or more glyph
   representations (instances of an abstract glyph) in a possibly
   context dependent fashion.

Thank you for any help,

Take Care,

 Bob Riley in Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA

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Re: Alternate Glyph for v4.0.x available

2007-12-23 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Bob,

on  Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:43:06 -0700GMT (24.12.2007, 05:43 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

 the new version of the Minimal Design Glyph is now adapted to the new
 changes in version v4.0.x. The icon set is optimized and tested for
 Win2000, WinXP and Vista.

 ...

BR I went to the first link above and liked the appearance!  However, all
BR of the labels were in German.  I have the English language version of
BR TB 4.02.  If I install your Minimal Design glyph, will the English
BR labels for the icons/buttons appear?  And is the change in glyphs easy
BR to uninstall, if I try it and don't like it?

The labels will be in your selected language. To uninstall the
glyphs just delete or rename batskin.xml.

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