Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
On Saturday, September 27, 2008, 11:46:36 PM, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: I read a thread in TBUDL that this is not working in 4.0.24. Checked this in this version and found out that it is not working with this version either. Confirmations? I still don't understand what isn't working. incoming or outgoing -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.34.11 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP Flags/ Keywords/ Labels (Was: Re: 4.0.34.11)
Hello Maxim, Friday, September 26, 2008, 5:35:21 PM, you wrote: What's new in 4.0.34.11 since 4.0.34.8: [!] New message base index for support message base files larger than 2G bytes and possibility to have multiple user flags Does this mean that there is a chance that IMAP Flags/ Keywords/ Labels will be supported? See: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6523 -- Best regards, Robertmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Discussion on how to upgrade successfully to the new version (was: Re: 4.0.34.11)
The internal is the default backup. TBManager also backup Windows register keys and some settings from program directory. Now the TBManager site is stolen from porn spammer but you can find info and download here http://thebat.zetema.de/tools.html#tbmanager M. Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, at 17:28:57 [GMT +1000] (which was 9:28 where I live) Ian A. White wrote: - On Sunday, September 28, 2008, 2:46:36 PM, you (Henk M. de Bruijn) wrote: HMdB I read a thread in TBUDL that this is not working in 4.0.24. HMdB Checked this in this version and found out that it is not HMdB working with this version either. I have been following the discussion on TBUDL, but using an Australian expression, it is as clear as mud in a beer bottle! What is not working? You see, I request reading receipts with the messages I send out (except to these lists), and I get receipts back. Of course some recipients choose not to send receipts. Hello Ian, Having become curious after reading the thread in TBUDL I tried to test it myself by sending a message from one account to another and I could not get it to work. Up till checking it always has worked as designed. -- Regards, Henk M. de Bruijn _ The Bat! Natural Email System version 4.0.34.7 on Windows XP SP3 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 3.0.0.9 CSAPI Hunspell spellchecker English Dutch Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail! pgp5cVEd3EgS4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
exceptions log for .11
Hello Max, attached the log file for 4.0.34.11. I am back to .7 because all messages are invisible with .11 -- Best regards, Peter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] thebat_Exceptions.rar Description: Binary data Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
Hello Ian, There is of course one quirk. You only get asked if you want to send a receipt WHEN YOU LEAVE THE MESSAGE. The 'Reading Confirmation Receipt' is sent (or queued to Outbox) when the message is 'marked as READ'. Now, when is a message marked as Read? That depends on a couple of configuration options: 1.- In Account-Properties-Options - Mark the message as read when it is being read for X Secs - Mark the message as read only when it is open in a separate window 2.- In Options/Preferences/Message List - Go to the next unread message with the SmartSpace reading - Mark the current message as read when navigating away from it In my case I have none of the four options ticked because I want to decide when I have read each message. So, I use the shortcut 'Ctrl+M' (actually 'Space', which I have configured in Customiser). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 12:18 schrieb MAU: The 'Reading Confirmation Receipt' is sent (or queued to Outbox) when the message is 'marked as READ'. Did you actually test it, did it work? In my case I have none of the four options ticked because I want to decide when I have read each message. So, I use the shortcut 'Ctrl+M' (actually 'Space', which I have configured in Customiser). Ah, ok, i have Mark Message read when opened in a seperat Window. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
Hello Jens, The 'Reading Confirmation Receipt' is sent (or queued to Outbox) when the message is 'marked as READ'. Did you actually test it, did it work? Yes, of course I did. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 14:00 schrieb MAU: The 'Reading Confirmation Receipt' is sent (or queued to Outbox) when the message is 'marked as READ'. Did you actually test it, did it work? Yes, of course I did. I found the Problem!!! My Options under reading-confirmation say send imediately and prompt before action. All the Confirmations i found in the Outbox, they were not send. And of course, this is a BUG. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.34.11)
Hello Robert, Sunday, September 28, 2008, 9:26:23, you wrote: Does this mean that there is a chance that IMAP Flags/ Keywords/ Labels will be supported? Yes, we are planning to support it. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
On Sunday, September 28, 2008, 7:17:05 AM, Jens Franik wrote: And of course, this is a BUG. but not new? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.34.11 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 14:41 schrieb Dwight Corrin: And of course, this is a BUG. but not new? As i already stated: It used to work for me, but now it does not work any more. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
shut down error
Hello TBBetaListers, It's not realy related to this beta, but I got this since 4.0.24.19 : TheBat_Exceptions.log.txt : last exception in 4.0.34.11 any idea ? -- Regards, Alain :aggy: :flag-france: The Bat! 4.0.34.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Date: 28 Sep 2008 01:47:55 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 555/1022 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1914/2047 MB Address: 0072B87B ClassName: EAccessViolation Message: Access violation at address 0072B87B in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 6BF4 IsOSException: 1 Modules: 0040 20080926152316 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 0072B87B [0040] 00B938D5 [0040] 00AAE1F0 [0040] 00AAE1C2 [0040] 00AA9B2A [0040] 00AACE7E [0040] 0071138E [0040] 00712DEB [0040] 00712156 [0040] 00711898 [0040] 00404E64 [0040] 00710A07 [0040] 00403248 [0040] 00407113 [0040] 007108D9 [0040] 00404E64 [0040] 0070E35A [0040] 0070E497 [0040] 00404E64 [0040] 00702FF9 [0040] 00748E83 [0040] 00C57B46 [0040] 0040322C [0040] 00405EAC [0040] 0040322C [0040] 00405EAC [0040] 00406583 [0040] 00403248 [0040] 00405E21 [0040] 00C56A1E [0040] 00C5A973 [0040] 00C5A9E0 [0040] 00C5FCF0 [0040] Date: 28 Sep 2008 01:47:55 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 554/1022 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1915/2047 MB Address: 00460357 ClassName: EAccessViolation Message: Access violation at address 00460357 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0008 IsOSException: 1 Modules: 0040 20080926152316 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 00460357 [0040] 004608A7 [0040] 00711268 [0040] 008E293D [0040] 00405271 [0040] 0053156E [0040] 00556989 [0040] 00531594 [0040] 00556989 [0040] 0055DD75 [0040] 0074B3EB [0040] 0046A77F [0040] 00442970 [0040] 00442980 [0040] 004603B7 [0040] 0045F9B9 [0040] 0045FC71 [0040] 005519DD [0040] 00556989 [0040] 0055DD75 [0040] 00556989 [0040] 004E35FD [0040] 00556989 [0040] 004E286A [0040] 004E3BFD [0040] 00556989 [0040] 00531594 [0040] 00532671 [0040] 0053268C [0040] 0046A6F7 [0040] 0053038B [0040] 0053DEB5 [0040] 00C583CB [0040] 0040322C [0040] 00405EAC [0040] 0040322C [0040] 00405EAC [0040] 00406583 [0040] 00403248 [0040] 00405E21 [0040] 00C56A1E [0040] 00C5A973 [0040] 00C5A9E0 [0040] 00C5FCF0 [0040] Date: 28 Sep 2008 01:47:56 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 554/1022 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1915/2047 MB Address: 00702F20 ClassName: Exception Message: Resource leak: 25 instance(s) of TPropertyCollection left Caller addresses listed below: 0012FF3C 0012E88C 0012E75C 0012E5DC 0012E54C 0012E4AC 0012E3FC 0012E3EC 0012E34C 0012E29C 0012E22C 0012E18C 0012E14C 0012E10C 0012E0EC 0012E0AC 0012E06C 0012E03C 0012E00C 0012DFCC 0012DF6C 0012DF1C 0012DEEC 0012FCD4 0012FCBC IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20080926152316 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 00702F20 [0040] 00702F1B [0040] 00C5863B [0040] 0040322C [0040] 00405EAC [0040] 0040322C [0040] 00405EAC [0040] 00406583 [0040] 00403248 [0040] 00405E21 [0040] 00C56A1E [0040] 00C5A973 [0040] 00C5A9E0 [0040] 00C5FCF0 [0040] Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
Hello Jens, The 'Reading Confirmation Receipt' is sent (or queued to Outbox) when the message is 'marked as READ'. Did you actually test it, did it work? Yes, of course I did. I found the Problem!!! My Options under reading-confirmation say send imediately and prompt before action. All the Confirmations i found in the Outbox, they were not send. And of course, this is a BUG. Maybe not. What is your setting in Account - Properties - Transport - Delivery type? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
On Sunday, September 28, 2008, 8:09:19 AM, Jens Franik wrote: As i already stated: It used to work for me, but now it does not work any more. well, you also said that your settings were wrong, and someone said it was useless and never worked. for me, it is working exactly the same as it has been working as long as I can remember. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.34.11 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 16:33 schrieb MAU: My Options under reading-confirmation say send imediately and prompt before action. All the Confirmations i found in the Outbox, they were not send. And of course, this is a BUG. Maybe not. What is your setting in Account - Properties - Transport - Delivery type? Immediate - this is for any Account (that means for all Accounts) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 16:43 schrieb Dwight Corrin: As i already stated: It used to work for me, but now it does not work any more. well, you also said that your settings were wrong, and someone said it was useless and never worked. for me, it is working exactly the same as it has been working as long as I can remember. I belive you, but i have a different situation here. I found them, but they are not sent as the Properties are set to. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changed threading behavior in 4.0.34.11
I am resending this as it is a serious aggravation and change in behavior that happened for the first time in this release (.11) Should I open a bug report? Formerly a thread from an earlier time would receive a new message and move to the top of the message list. The thread would stay there even if I deleted the new message Now, if you delete the new message it jumps back to it's former place in the message list. I am threading by references, expanding all threads, grouping by date, and new thread sorting. This is the way it was before and after upgrading to .11 - nothing else changed Confirm anyone? -- Rick GOP stands for Greed Over People v4.0.34.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.34.11] Receipt and reading confirmation
Hello Jens, Immediate - this is for any Account (that means for all Accounts) See my last reply in TBUDL. :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TBBETA Mission Statement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Greetings Beta Listers,
This is your monthly message from the moderation team to remind you
of the primary purpose of this discussion list.
To review the list rules, follow the link at the end of this message.
Before posting a question to the list, please check The Bat! User's
FAQ at: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html and the list
archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To
join the list, send a message to
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBBETA Mission statement
The TBBETA list has been set up for the purpose of discussing The
Bat! officially released Beta test versions and related issues. For
general topics of a more simple nature regarding full release
versions, refer to TBUDL. For more complex topics refer to TBTECH.
An 'officially released' beta version is one which has been
announced *by RITlabs* on the TBBETA list, usually with a list of
changes.
Simply send messages to tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com to send it to
the whole list.
See the notes at the end of this message for details about how to
manage your list membership or to leave the list.
It would probably be a good idea for you to set up a folder to keep
TBBETA messages in. If you do this, the next most useful thing to
have in place is an automatic filter to move mail from your inbox
into your TBBETA folder.
Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for:
Header Field [Reply-To] Contains [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Roguemoticon Project
It's nice to see your contact's face in the header ... and for them
to see yours. That's what roguemoticons are all about. If you wish
to add yourself, then you'll need to visit this site
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat
What this place will do for you is to allow you to create an
account, add your image and then let you download a .ZIP file
containing all the files you'll need to be able so see people's
faces without having to send or receive any real images in any
messages.
To trigger the roguemoticon display in the message header for anyone
reading your message using TB, you have the choice of using the
X-Rogue: header or a signature trigger.
How to use a signature trigger
The image is triggered by a 'Handle' you've defined in your
account, and when that Handle appears in a message it gets
replaced on the client side by the corresponding image. A handle
could look like anything you want it to look like pretty much.
For example:
:Marck_Pearlstone:
Just add this text to your standard message signature block.
How to create the X-Rogue: header
You can do that with this macro:
%SetHeader('X-Rogue',':your_handle:')%- in your templates for
this and other tb-lists.
However, the macro alone won't do the trick.
TB'll say: 'Hey, that's not any RFC822 header I know about', so
you'll have to define it as such:
Options .. Preferences .. Messages .. Message headers .. 'Add'
Now you'll get a pop-up to define the header
Display as: X-Rogue (or whatever, it isn't very important)
RFC header: X-Rogue
Uncheck: 'This field is an address list' (because it isn't)
Check: 'Allow this field to be edited in the message editor'
Uncheck: 'Display this field in the scrollable part of the
header pane'
Now you're done and every TB-user can see your lovable face when
they've installed the roguemoticons.
For you to see peoples faces:
To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. Fetch
the following file:
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip
Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation
directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images
You should now have a directory called 'rogues' containing many
images as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory.
Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now
hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus. This will re-fetch
TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images.
TBOT - The Bat off topic discussion list
One of our members has created a list for those occasional off topic
discussions of public interest. Please feel free to join this list,
where many of our readership currently participate.
Addresses:
Post message: [EMAIL
Re[2]: Discussion on how to upgrade successfully to the new version (was: Re: 4.0.34.11)
Hello Jens and Mackley, Saturday, September 27, 2008, 3:59:09 PM, you wrote: am Samstag, 27. September 2008 um 17:39 schrieb Mackley: and with TBManager http://www.freeware-archiv.de/TBManager-eMail.htm Mackley: thank you for the link! The Manufacturers URL points to a Site which offers Phone Sex. I did not test, if the Program itself is downloadable. My German is not so good ... darn, I missed it!. OK, I found it, but too expensive from USA LOL. Anyway, this is a very cool little program and I will try it out. I have had TB backup fail before using OTFE and it would be nice to have another Bat backup program! -- Neal Using TheBat! v4.0.34.5 on Windows XP Service Pack 3 AntispamSniper OTFE enabled Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.34.11
Hello Maxim, Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:35:21 PM, you wrote: [!] New message base index for support message base files larger than 2G bytes and possibility to have multiple user flags Using OTFE (work) completed the conversion with no errors. The ex_log.txt remained untouched. However all folders appeared empty and I had to rollback. Using the non-OTFE version (home) the conversion was successful and works like charm. -- George M. Menegakis Using The Bat v4.0.34.11 on Windows XP Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
