Re: 1.54b3 - Folder property options missing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 16:52:18 -0700, Januk thoughtfully wrote the following: ... AM Has anyone noticed that in the folder properties, only the general AM tab remains. All the other tabs where you can configure templates, AM sound and identity parameters are missing??!! JA Confirmed. It looks like they are gone for all folders at the same JA level as the Inbox, Outbox, Sent and Trash folders. All other folders JA are normal. They're missing for *all* my folders. I wonder if this has to do with my folder arrangement. My outbox is right after my inbox. I notice now that the nested folder properties are pretty much intact as you said. Most of my folders aren't nested and this is why it was immediately apparent to me. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) MUA: The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/3) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'Oxymoron: Team of Independents.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com iD8DBQE7WMYQV8nrYCsHF+IRAlXFAJ4up+4jb06jHaTxtLwPpVC+1Y+VeQCdFBMb FGh4sTCjnu9wWD4BYTSaDFQ= =kRwr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Divide by Zero error in new HTML viewer (was: Re: 1.54 Beta/3 ...)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:11:44 -0700, Januk wrote these comments: ... JA When I try to view the HTML portion of the attached message, TB JA generates a ton of Divide by Zero error dialogue boxes. The JA only way to clear them is to kill TB by the Close Program JA Dialogue in Win98SE. VERY nasty. Confirmed. JA Oh, and this is also a test of TB's handling of attached .msg files. The wrong icon is displayed in the attachments pane for .msg files. See attached .png file. JA In previous versions, when a .msg file was attached, it would be JA encoded, but the message viewer would not decode an encoded JA attachment. In other words, you may need to first save the file JA before viewing it. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) MUA: The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/3) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'Oxymoron: Steel wool.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com iD8DBQE7WNjkV8nrYCsHF+IRAhpPAKDBfIulgJkkqgihosfwxnuU3s/45QCg9NI8 PKR1zg8BFjZWdcl1U0VjE6Y= =/+Gm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] msgattach.png
v1.54beta/3 - HTML rendering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I decided to go through some archived messages of a dicussion list I subscribe where HTML messages are very common. The rendering seems fine except for the font sizes which are consistently prohibitively small. I'm running at a screen resolution of 1600x1200 and am using large screen fonts. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) MUA: The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/3) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'Always forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them so much.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com iD8DBQE7WN8pV8nrYCsHF+IRAtHDAKCqMbsvKZHE34ZoUNbkojqNle4Z3gCglmFO VtOtbCvNDZIToz3RfYCafaU= =Tkx2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.54b3 - Folder property options missing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 05:51:06 +0200, Avenarius wrote these words of wisdom: ... A God help us -- this looks like the armageddon. I always feared A one day there would come a Bat version that would start A eliminating previously vital functionality. A Are we now supposed to transfer all of our current first-level A folders into a sub-folder level?! A This is a tragedy, if it's not oversight but an effect intended A by Bat developers. I'm quite confident it's just a bug. :-) We should see this fixed in the next beta ... I can bet on that. g - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) MUA: The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/3) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com iD8DBQE7WP+1V8nrYCsHF+IRAn4VAKD36RUiMLGwYOoaVuRlx9te2W+KSACfS1fj GzIN0PkJcO86/UNjfLYy4Tg= =AkC5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Synchronisation creating a mirror image
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I wonder if it would be possible to make the synchronisation function mirror an installations folders settings etc. The present synchronisation process seems to only append/add messages that are not present to the installation being synchronised with the other. The problem with that is this: I've been using v1.53d for a while now and since then I've cleaned some of my archive folders of viruses etc. I've also archived away large amounts of messages from some of my folders that were reaching 4000 message capacity. The SecureBat! installation that I have has not been dealt with in this fashion at all. I'd therefore have to repeat the entire process after synchronisation. I'm wondering if there could be an option to make an exact image of the folder message bases as opposed to what the synchronisation process presently does. I do definitely see a need for the present functionality. I'm just wishing for that additional option of mirroring the message bases rather than just simply updating by adding messages/folders not present. I guess one solution would be to do a complete backup of the TB! installation, delete the accounts in SB! and then doing a full restore. This takes longer though. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53d) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'I can do without essentials but I must have my luxuries' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com iEYEARECAAYFAjtTJS0ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+J2JQCgoLwUm+fTQmFKqeSuABIqlD5L E2QAnj+8Ylc53PnrQVkxbc38jhKn8ZcU =vuae -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Bat! - bug report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:10:19 +0100, David contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... DE The bug description: DE Paste with auto format does not work correctly DE Steps to reproduce the bug: DE I have caught a funny little bug. This has been there for ages. I just couldn't reproduce it. DE (1) Set Auto-format on. DE (2) Create a sentence where you have a long word that is wrapped onto the DE next line, due to it's length. i.e. like the sentance below DE This is a sentence with a long word that is wrapped to the next line DE because it is long. DE (3) Create a shorter word that would have been on the line above. e.g. [as] DE (4) Highlight the short word and copy it to the clipboard. DE (5) Highlight the long word. DE (6) Paste over the long word the shorter word. What I get is You don't even have to do this. Simply highlighting the long word and overwriting it will make the cursor jump to the wrong position as you stated and the word you're typing will be inserted at the same incorrect point. DE How about you ? Very much confirmed!! Finally, I can reproduce the thing. :-) - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53d) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'Oxymoron: Random Order.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.80 Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://pubkey.ac-martin.com iEYEARECAAYFAjs8Xa0ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JI7ACgyVh0jdVDuM2QbwuvBsAMSUeL QA0An1xh4J4W/zQ1oqtVMNfKhN9K9mOm =12pF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Address Auto View
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:17:58 +0100, David wrote these comments: ... DE I have just started using the address auto View feature, (I am DE collecting photos from the rouges gallery and other places!) which DE have it set to always on top. DE What I would like is for it to minimise when I minimise The Bat!. What do DE other people think. I'm weary of all the windows. My wish is that I could somehow integrate it in the main window. I know this one is pretty wayward so I've kept my mouth shut. If it's integrated then it would get minimised as well. :-) - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53/iKey1000) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'FLOPPY DISK: Serious curvature of the spine.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build/06) Comment: Public Key available at http://key.ac-martin.com iQA+AwUBOyvL2lfJ62ArBxfiEQJm7ACfcI/55Iu6DFjaus/utR1Vz0zcQ6kAlj9s QeEvdVqhNANX+wbS9P0otv8= =0hnr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Address Auto View
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:32:53 +0100, David thoughtfully wrote the following: ... I'm weary of all the windows. My wish is that I could somehow integrate it in the main window. I know this one is pretty wayward so I've kept my mouth shut. If it's integrated then it would get minimised as well. :-) DE It might be wayward but it is a better suggestion that mine. I would DE like to place it below the account tree. Would you look at that? This is exactly what I was thinking. g - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53bis/iKey1000) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'PCMCIA: People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build/06) Comment: Public Key available at http://key.ac-martin.com iQA/AwUBOyvSmFfJ62ArBxfiEQKQBQCgxbE0iZDAQf4i/IMnysBsosZUp0kAn29k ULArEeIk5JFPiYkYxAvObBXs =82nJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are you sure Y/N?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:26:05 +0800, Thomas graced us with these comments: ... TF I always use deferred sending. I click on the icon put letter in TF outbox, which is the left-most on my box. TF Whenever I have finished typing a message and click on the icon to put TF it in the outbox, a query comes up: Do you want to saave the message? TF Y/N. When I hit Yes, the messages gets stored as draft in the Outobx TF and will not be sent. This is not what I want, otherwise I would have TF clicked the Save draft icon instead of Put in Outobx. TF So, each and every time the query comes up and I have to click No. Can TF I switch this superfluous query off somewhere? I cannot reproduce that here. Strange. Even if I switch to deferred delivery in the account settings I don't get a prompt when I send the message by placing it in the outbox with the 'place in outbox' toolbar button. I do get the prompts when I send using CTRL+Enter and 'deferred delivery' is enabled in the account settings. What delivery options do you use? Combined delivery? Immediate or deferred delivery? - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53bis) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'The first step to making a dream come true is to wake up' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build/06) Comment: Public Key available at http://key.ac-martin.com iQA/AwUBOyiRqlfJ62ArBxfiEQItvgCg2OD2HP+/kYkdJwOBMgB052v0RcgAoPYe +sdl0gs01wPMYOSEr4avXDv/ =AyrC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are you sure Y/N?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:55:16 +0200, Lars wrote these words of wisdom: ... LG I think the problem lies in the fact, that the message isn't saved LG when putting it in the outbox. I just checked, and I am asked the same LG thing when the message status is 'modified'. But when I wait for the LG autosave to take place before putting the message to the outbox, the LG message is not 'modified' and therefore TB! doesn't want to save it. LG It's definitely a bug, but it should be easy to fix. TB! just has to LG change the status to 'unmodified' when sending to outbox before actually LG closing the message edit window. Now that you've expanded on the details of the error, I can easily reproduce it. I was hitting the toolbar button with the message in an unmodified state. Once I modify it and hit the button, the pop-ups appear. - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53bis) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'Always proofread carefully to see if you any words out.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build/06) Comment: Public Key available at http://key.ac-martin.com iQA/AwUBOyiTblfJ62ArBxfiEQK1mgCg8ctuqU9ZtLKVyZhsPrj91NQ6PiYAn3Vd ks/E7R1GVlo4aJExx1tVTkL8 =L63U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Bat! - bug report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:19:18 +0100, David wrote these words of wisdom: ... DE The %text macro does not take the full text of the letter that you are DE replying to. DE Steps to reproduce the bug: DE I have been receiving forwarded messages from an OE user who has a cut mark DE on their signature. OE (and Novell Groupwise) have a nasty habit of quoting DE after the new message puts forwarded / original text below the signature. I DE needed to reply to all participants and comment on the forwarded / quoted DE material. DE This was discussed on TBUDL but I did not report it as a bug. I am DE reporting it as a bug because of the wording from the help file which DE states:- DE TEXT - insert the text of the original message I don't see where this behaviour can be deemed a bug because the %Text and %Quote macros will respond to signature delimiters, although the F4 command for quoting selected text shouldn't. What seems to be needed in your case is a macro to quote the full text ignoring the delimiters, such as %Fulltext or something of the sort. - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53 RC/4) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'A library is an arsenal of liberty.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://key.ac-martin.com iEYEARECAAYFAjsknX4ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IA4wCdEa7rEJl57JrDvtu51hHlur53 5PwAoLzGGLtY1YHEDaebqc3LCda9orlB =O6VA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The more the merrier - or the crowdier?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:20:13 +0200, Günther graced us with these comments: ... GE OK, I smack myself ;-)) I will adjust the subject in the future, GE according to the form netiquette suggests: New Subject (was: Old GE Subject) [without a Re:]. Question: Do you guys here prefer deleting GE the reference headers when changing the subject (thus starting a new GE thread) or keeping them and thus keep the thread? If you're completely deviating away from the original topic of the thread, yes, this would be useful. If you're just clarifying the topic of the thread, no. - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53 RC/4) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'IBM: I've Been Misled' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://key.ac-martin.com iEYEARECAAYFAjskosoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KJMwCg9wYkDS2/p03qLsOjD2ZNsMF8 pssAnA01pYs8ZZJGlVqpZNzxc1rifhrT =wg+a -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help the help (was Re: New Message Button)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:48:39 +0200 (CEST), Marek graced us with these comments: ... MM RC/4 installed old the_bat.hlp file and new the_bat.cnt :-) Confirmed here. - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53 RC/4) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'Fascinating, said Spock, watching Kirk's lousy acting.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://key.ac-martin.com iEYEARECAAYFAjskpc8ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KkDACcCxi6UkuBER392g0LAWa1diz2 Z6oAoKcOlXnbATLpiTK524yosrGLmfCw =XEaF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Making the autoview pane size sticky.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:54:25 +0200, Avenarius wrote these comments: ... ACM Such a powerful client with such a basic snag in interface ACM usability. A It's maddening that there's been no word from RITlabs on this A particular problem that has been bugging many users for many months A now. They just fixed it. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53 RC/4) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'Variables won't; constants aren't.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://key.ac-martin.com iEYEARECAAYFAjsj7vgACgkQV8nrYCsHF+Lh/wCeNTjcfHlzkUl4rrfOshpckn2g mFUAnA5qZbhUJ2lnApuuMrUXUn9e71hd =7U3D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Unable to use GnuPG with RC2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:46:14 +0300, Maxim thoughtfully wrote the following: ACM I get Runtime error 210 at 0016A7EF and upon hitting OK for the popup ACM box, TB! disappears from the screen - crashes. MM This has been fixed in RC/3. Yes, and duly noted. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53 RC/3) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'Useless Invention: Anklet wristwatches for contortionists.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://key.ac-martin.com iEYEARECAAYFAjsic1oACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KGWgCfdYjUfgJe6QH7cutnYk+DetSK z8IAmwdNhLNoKgS0eHGSNijp1GBx9OSn =wpw3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: GnuPG- an address book trick/quirk to get it working with encryption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:26:46 +0800, Thomas contributed this to our collective wisdom: T Er... I'm using the internal PGP, and I would like the matching smart T enough to find the key pertaining to the email address, regardless of T whether there is a spelling difference in the real name. Anything else T is not matching instead of smart matching. Or am I missing T something? ;-) I think you're using an external PGP version with a plugin. Max is referring to the internal PGP version ... look in the tools/OpenPGP/choose PGP version options. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53/iKey1000) [OS: Win2K Pro (SP2)] - 'Ideas are not responsible for their followers!' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: For my public key visit http://key.ac-martin.com iD8DBQE7HTscV8nrYCsHF+IRAueQAKD1OS6KfrBtqUGnGGRteUTk7/kpHgCfSFCg C4vw8OolNnTERWVe0JnzCDw= =zx0J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How do I get the ctrl + working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:03:18 +0100, David wrote these comments: Have you try Option Preference System tab check the Autocomplete and choose History+All address book ? (CMIIW) DE Yes and all the other options. DE Can any one else confirm this ? It works fine for me using 'Input History'. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53/iKey1000) [OS: Win2K Pro (SP2)] - 'Insanity is hereditary. You get it from your kids.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: KeyID: 0x2B0717E2 (GPG sealed for security). iD8DBQE7GSKNV8nrYCsHF+IRAkdEAKDf21emjFq2vltXklvWtzCF7BDVOACgt9y4 e1tsuiawi6h3w1Kf5nh/TSA= =hRC3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How do I get the ctrl + working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:53:23 +0100, David thoughtfully wrote the following: It works fine for me using 'Input History'. DE Not for me. Are you sure it is not picking it up from your history. Yes, I'm sure. Ctrl+ and Ctrl- work perfectly here. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53/iKey1000) [OS: Win2K Pro (SP2)] - 'Efficiency takes time! Frugality: who can afford it?' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: KeyID: 0x2B0717E2 (GPG sealed for security). iD8DBQE7GTXtV8nrYCsHF+IRAtThAKDzZQwcLSqygbPB+7k7r5GZoXuKegCguawt O8pt4jzalhxxMOBXdNUVD30= =mETm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: It's the normal behaviour - although very wrong, IMHO.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 May 2001 09:31:25 +0200, MaXxX thoughtfully wrote the following: This option will prevent the problem of folder templates being used for web pages. The default templates for the account you assign as the default will always be used. M Yes, this IS a workaround (although not really a very logical and M consistent one), What's inconsistent about it? This option was introduced for the very reasons we're discussing. M but I cannot imagine ANYONE wanting their mailto: URLs clicked in a Web M browser to user the current folder templates... Why not. I used to do that, before I moved to address book templates. I'd click on the appropriate folder template and then hit the URL. For example, I have a folder that I store my registration information etc. I used to have templates designed for support associated with that folder. If I was at a website and wanted support, I'd select the folder and then hit the URL. M A new message is a new message, and - as folder templates ARE a M dangerous thing to do - they shouldn't really be used in this case. They're dangerous only when the %To macro is used in them. Using the address book favourites list and other features to fill in new message headers is the safe way. Using the %to macro in folder new message templates is touchy. Using the same macro in address book templates is without risk. M Wrong again. Suppose a user clicks someone's e-mail address in a folder M in which they have a folder template. The result is that the new M message is addressed to both the folder template's recipient and the M clicked one. Again, I wonder, WHO would want the folder templates to be M used when clicking a [EMAIL PROTECTED] clickable e-mail address?? This is M just plain dangerous, and with no real use whatsoever. Well that will only happen if a %To macro in the new message template for folders. M Anyway, I opt for using the default templates ALWAYS when invoking a M mailto: URL or a clickable e-mail address in a message. WITHOUT the M folder templates used. Reasonable. :-) - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53 Beta/11/iKey1000) [OS: Win2K Pro (SP2)] - 'Scaldophobia: Fear the toilet will flush while showering.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: KeyID: 0x2B0717E2 (GPG sealed for security). iD8DBQE7FNanV8nrYCsHF+IRAu+0AKD47WVVbfXFdUxxZRVvXPtT1mgMtgCgibfi /HpFKqsmlu/jp7CIepS4Xn0= =NUK4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT: SW piracy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 May 2001 18:12:55 +0800, Thomas thoughtfully wrote the following: T my reply is on the OT list. Thanks very much. I was about to interject that this discussion be moved elsewhere and that enough was said about it on the TB! beta list. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53/iKey1000) [OS: Win2K Pro (SP2)] - 'Oxymoron: Self-dependent.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: KeyID: 0x2B0717E2 (GPG sealed for security). iD8DBQE7FNoRV8nrYCsHF+IRAs4vAJ9OwHrmZ3q2k4QV13dojooKA4YHdQCg5wJn lI4VzfVmjTlBlkFLyoQsWS8= =siWX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Shortcut for next unread message in thread?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 May 2001 14:16:13 +0200, Alexander wrote these words of wisdom: AL Doesn't do anything for me... Nothing happens. I am inside of a thread AL with unread messages, one of those messages is open (as I'm reading it) AL and also the active window at the same time. Using the above shortcut AL there doesn't do _anything_. What's wrong? I might misunderstand AL something here, who knows... :-) Try these: Ctrl+Alt+Right arrow for moving to next unread. Ctrl+Alt+left arrow for moving to previously unread message. The shortcuts were recently changed. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53/iKey1000) [OS: Win2K Pro (SP2)] - 'I am Lancelot of Borg. Resistance is feudal.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: KeyID: 0x2B0717E2 (GPG sealed for security). iD8DBQE7FOWBV8nrYCsHF+IRAowRAJ4iEFs1aND77ebfRZyHJyfU/5VmNQCgkbHh UVIfXnB1/ocY6kpVFdztdJ0= =IbBx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Alt + Left Arrow
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 23 May 2001 09:15:22 -0400, Brian wrote these comments: ACM The alt+left arrow now works as a backbrowse button. It takes you ACM back to the messages you had previously read in the session. A ACM much needed feature for threaded view browsing. BC I see; that could prove to be handy I suppose. So what do we do when BC the list shifts over to the right now? (I'm not being sarcastic) BC Maybe that adjustment someone mentioned a while back -- where the BC message list dynamically adjusts to fit the frame in that situation? Yeah. Another unresolved issue. This is another of the many reasons why I browse messages mainly via the ticker virtual folder. The threads are not as deep because they contain only new messages so I don't have to contend with the frustration of the columns expanding out of view. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53 Beta/8/iKey1000) [OS: Win2K Pro (SP1)] - 'Reality is an obstacle to hallucination.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (MingW32) Comment: PGP KeyID: 0x2B0717E2 (PGP sealed for security). iD8DBQE7C/RbV8nrYCsHF+IRAs4IAJ9f0abcJZf97QAfluTipJLfnUxmRQCfWCBW uKeHqkP+zJgRqF5YhdgKX0s= =s2n6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: (bug?) Macros expanded regardless of %REM ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 23 May 2001 11:38:27 -0500, Dwight wrote these comments: DAC I suppose this is getting to the point where it's just pointless DAC argument, but I submit anyone who has ever written code for a living DAC expects comment lines to not be processed, and that this is a bug. DAC Why should a compiler be trying to interpret or execute comment DAC lines? It should not. You should be able to put anything in there DAC which helps you and others understand your coding now, or years from DAC now, or cause actions to not take place yet leave the code there for DAC later. DAC It's a bug. Agreed!! moderator note On that note I think we could declare this thread dead? :-) Thanks. \moderator note - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53 Beta/8/iKey1000) [OS: Win2K Pro (SP1)] - 'Linux, the choice of a GNU generation.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (MingW32) Comment: PGP KeyID: 0x2B0717E2 (PGP sealed for security). iD8DBQE7DAUkV8nrYCsHF+IRAnyGAKC1yiXPKxq0jqfV6DlR/Du+iHxihACguUpM pCZ47G6CvbleXhnOK8eHSbE= =tsE1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Keyboard shortcut inconsistencies (was: 1.53 Beta/8)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 21 May 2001 22:38:48 +0800, Thomas contributed this to our collective wisdom: ACM Oh yes, they still do. :-/ T How would you like to compile a list, along which Stefan and Max can T work (if they are so inclined)? ;-) I could do this but I wonder how much they'll do about it at this stage of TB!'s life considering that version 2 is on the way and which will allow you to map your own shortcuts. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53 Beta/8/iKey1000) [OS: Win2K Pro (SP1)] - 'Skiier: Someone who pays an arm and a leg to break them.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOwlu5VfJ62ArBxfiEQIpUACgqaV90GW9qSu+aJpbS1iXPYRHcbUAn19h MfeZovkoQQbtR1xZDB5znP/4 =uIlX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 small bugs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 16 May 2001 20:40:41 -0700, Screwyluie contributed this to our collective wisdom: S that's the annoyance, here's the bug. if you paste from file not S paste as quotation, the cursor isn't moved to the end of the file like S it should be, so when I when I do my (annoying) double undo to get rid S of the text it doesn't remove it all, just what's before the cursor, S leaving the last line of the file intact, an unremoved by the undo S because the cursor wasn't placed at the proper end of the new text. I can't reproduce this problem. S hmm odd, I just copied that out of the file and the used ctrl+v to put S it in here and even then the cursor wasn't placed at the end of the S line... odd that the cursor wasn't placed at the end of the line. S and it brings up another questions, shouldn't the word wrap wrap that S text? why's it letting it go all the way over there... I dunno... TB!'s editor doesn't soft or window wrap, so if a block of text contains no hard returns, it will be displayed as a single long line of text. If it re-wraps that pasted text, it would be reformatting the text, something most editor don't do without explicit instructions from the user (most will reflow using soft returns. Turn off wrap feature and see that the text isn't really re-formatted). You should check out the 'edit/paste formatted' option for wrapping pasted text. This should do what you would like to. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53 Beta/6) | Win2k (SP1) - 'Floggings will continue until morale improves.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOwOlUlfJ62ArBxfiEQIDoQCg06+LNrDauZh9hem8WptRzc4yqswAoI9n PvkXFiQuaCThIPFqWDrcoC8E =7Sp8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bleep
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 13 May 2001 13:58:33 +0100, David thoughtfully wrote the following: DE It is looking like the way that The Bat! is developing is the result DE of whoever is shouting the loudest! This is like the majority being DE ruled by the loudest minority. DE I don't want to start a flame war but I feel that some one should point DE this out. :=)) IMO, the real advantage of being involved in beta testing is not to get a free license g, but to get the opportunity to test the software in evolution and make your voice be heard. The developers won't know how you feel unless you make it known. If you don't say anything then it will mean that you're indifferent about it or in agreement with what's happening, or enough have said what you intended to say. I've seen features added where there was strong feelings on either side to implementation. To my surprise, the features were implemented in a compromising fashion. The example that comes immediately to mind is the quoting of selected text upon replying. That's done using F4 after selecting text instead of simply hitting reply after selecting the text block. It was interesting how the implementation evolved. :-) I personally find the current method of moving across folders better. Afterall, the shortcuts function is to move you to the next unread message. It surprised me when I was moved to an already read message when the feature was just implemented. It was un-intuitive and I found myself rereading an already read message a few times before I picked up the pattern. Not to mention, the extra key stroke that is repeatedly needed to get to the next unread message upon moving to the next folder. It began getting to me. :-) ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53/iKey1000)293FF-929OB | Win2k (SP1) - 'Solution: A more subtle problem.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOv6vgFfJ62ArBxfiEQIdbACg+djPkLuZljudSvBsUHwXSvqOdggAoIa5 j7rzWCpXhqr5z3hPZau4IWZ7 =jgqa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bleep
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 13 May 2001 18:44:24 +0100, David contributed this to our collective wisdom: The developers won't know how you feel unless you make it known. DE So do you want me to do a reply to everything saying me to or Not DE for me. :-) Sure, especially if no one has yet made the objection or agreement you wish to. Of course, some discretion needs to be exercised and it's prudent not to post a me too if it has adequately been expressed by others. DE Yes but what I see is a small minority of this list jumping up and DE down. And it appears that one voice is enough to change the behaviour DE of the program. One voice is certainly good enough especially if it speaks sensibly and goes unopposed in opinion. :-) DE There are also times when I can not access the list for a period of DE time and something that I do not consider to be a bug is fixed and I DE do not have time to reply. Well, this will always be a problem. DE Also English is my first language but I am badly dyslexic and have DE considerable trouble in getting my thoughts written down in a coherent DE fashion. This means that I don't always reply when I think that I DE should. (I know that this is my problem.) I understand. I personally find the current method of moving across folders better. DE I prefer the original implication but I can live with it as it is now. DE However I do miss the bleep when changing from folder to folder, to me this DE was very useful. Agreed. BTW, I've noted that the preview window has again overtaken the folder view window in this regard. It's my opinion that the browse across folder option should be made optional, and also be made functional via the view folder windows. The beep would then come in very handy when browsing multiple folders via the view folder window. Just my $0.02 worth. :-) ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53/iKey1000)293FF-929OB | Win2k (SP1) - 'Conformity obstructs progress.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOv7Nz1fJ62ArBxfiEQLkqgCgq0emfC88vRGr89lkFqbSapNTByEAoPrt G3Obt0DptlbnWvUli31nN4N/ =NSt/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: If you sent as many bugreports as I did...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 12 May 2001 18:03:10 +0200, MaXxX thoughtfully wrote the following: M And there's yet another thing - the betatesters of various programs M usually get special FREE licenses for the testing purposes, so that M they don't have to buy the program to help with its development. Here, M the testers HAVE to pay for the program (or else it'll stop M functioning), AND they won't benefit in any way from the hard testing M work they do, AND they're rarely listened to. Ritlabs betas of TB! are public. They are free for anyone to try and report bugs *if they wish*. You were not specifically asked the favour of beta testing (am I wrong on this?). I therefore don't see why you're necessarily entitled to something in return, of monetary value, such as a free license. The last time that I was actually *asked* to beta test, I did in fact get a free license. :-) Just recently, PMView's beta testing was closed and when it was finished ... no free license for me. I've also beta tested many other public betas with no free license forthcoming. I see nothing wrong with Ritlabs position in this regard. Once there's no official agreement ... no freeby. :-) As to the rest of your sentiments, I tend to agree, although they tend to be more than a bit unreasonably sweeping. TB! does tend to harbour a lot of bugs. As soon as you fix some, they are replaced by new ones and this is largely because new features are being added so rapidly which introduce a new set of bugs. Since my using TB! in April 1999, they've fixed a huge quantity of bugs that we have indicated to them on this very beta list. I do share your view that it's best that they slow down on the not so necessary feature add-ons and concentrate more on fixing some more of those older and also, more recent nasty bugs. My two pet bugs which I am wary of constantly, and which have affected my use of TB! for ages are: a) the one where an incoming message filtered and dynamically added to the folder which you're browsing can lead to you're replying to the wrong recipient when you generate a reply to the message your reading when the new message comes in b) Using %cookies recursively with the %Qinclude macro leads to some interesting effects when multiple cookies are being used within the same template. Both have been documented on this list so I won't go into detail on them. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53/iKey1000)293FF-929OB | Win2k (SP1) - 'Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOv3NClfJ62ArBxfiEQLv8ACfRmTOwmnSN5ppbYOLpWuYWmJy0XAAn1DR RdmIcSY+AHd/gsQds/tdRYdZ =UKYW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Address Book Macro list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 12 May 2001 17:37:58 -0600, Quin contributed this to our collective wisdom: QS I'm addressing this to TBBETA only because I don't know if the QS problem just appeared or if it's been around for a while. QS Select an entry in your Address Book. Click Properties and go to QS Forward tab. Then click the Macros button. The list is way QS off-screen to the right. QS Do you confirm or is this peculiar to my system? There's a new beta released that's supposed to fix problems with the address book. Perhaps you should try that one. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using SecureBat! (v1.53/iKey1000)293FF-929OB | Win2k (SP1) - 'I do this kind of stuff to him all through the picture.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOv3NhlfJ62ArBxfiEQIvnACfTNHb7GYGJfLz8wBqyCzCJxVbx1AAn1mM JzXL2AyaROHvX0a0ICklsaBQ =lCZI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: DAMN. Bugfixes or new features!? Now which is it!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 1 May 2001 03:43:43 +0200, MaXxX graced us with these comments: ST How exactly? I need step-by-step instructions of how to reproduce ST what you mean. I did not experience any problems with Undo for years. M I've been trying to make it bug every time, but to no avail. I have M only a few suspections - as it seems to happen most often with deleting M and undoing the deletion of a BIG block of text. M Try this one, it seems to work MOST of the time: select a line of text, M CUT it (ctrl+x), select another, cut, select another cut, and like this M a few times. Then try to undo all those cuts. I'm not talking about M hitting the undo buffer limit - it should undo more than six or seven M such cuts, right? Hmmm. Seems to work fine here. I cut out ten single lines and undid them fine. I then cut out 10 clips of variable length and undid them again. The undo hasn't really failed me. I personally have created some text formatting macros and sometimes I often have to undo them and this has never been a problem. ST Here nicknames are working perfectly. I use them many times every ST day. Details, please. M Okay, this one goes for you. Looks like I'm an ex-Netscapish moron... M Let's say that I have a friend with an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a M nickname jonny. I type jo and I see [EMAIL PROTECTED] appended for me. M Fine, but it only recognized my typing in an email address. I want it to M recognize a nickname - so I continue to type, jonny, and. nothing M appears. M I _know_ that hitting TAB or DOWN will make Bat recognize the nickname, M but what if I don't remember its correct spelling? The way Netscape M does it is much more useful: a partially typed nickname is M automatically suggest-expanded the way email addresses are now in The M Bat, or a list of possible nicknames and email addresses appeard M somewhere below the entry field... This sounds like a feature request, rather than bug fix. I agree that it would be good to have. M * deleting unread threads sometimes results in mistakes in folder's M message count ST Sometimes is a bad word for bug reports. :-) So, could you please be ST more specific on this because I could not reproduce it? M I still can't pin the sucker down, but it's acting like this: M - I receive a bunch of messages, possibly some mailing lists M - I enter some folder with a few new messages M - I read some of them, I delete the whole threads with other ones M - In the end, I have no more unread messages in the folder (even CTRL+] and M CTRL+[ refuse to find any remaining unread messages) but still the message M counter says that I have 1 or 2 unread msgs! M - Exiting and entering a folder brings the counts back to normal M I doesn't ALWAYS do this, so I'll have to watch my message counts more closely M to produce a 100% replayable bug. This one eludes me as well. There's one particular folder from which I delete threads quite a lot while reading but I haven't seen unread message counts when there really aren't any unread messages. There's probably some ingredient to produce the problem that you haven't mentioned. :-/ ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Hackers have kernel knowledge.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOu5hdVfJ62ArBxfiEQJOugCeNhU1Sw9JQ8paFWQ/SIxMAO5EcX8AoPdA jY92zjGvr3EwqafaHNWtZLL6 =g8Sd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: DAMN. Bugfixes or new features!? Now which is it!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 1 May 2001 12:02:26 +0600, Alexander wrote these comments: ACM OK. A Win98 user doesn't have the problem. AL Sad, but true - they have too, and some reported, what they have AL troubles even with my (and I never can't see this bug) videocard and AL _my_ drivers. Maybe resolution, maybe font size additionally make our AL systems different Well it looks as if this one will take a long time to be pinned down, if ever. :-/ ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'I'm Not Schizophrenic, And Neither Am I.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOu5jiFfJ62ArBxfiEQK6igCfQqynoga0PXzNakBLIwB8MWjsJ20AoJOf BeOfQCpovcMWCtuMXocPUXND =XN81 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: DAMN. Bugfixes or new features!? Now which is it!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 1 May 2001 03:02:29 -0400, Brian thoughtfully wrote the following: MH I can reproduce it here. My hardware is a Dell Latitude laptop P3 MH 550. Display adapter is an ATI Rage Mobility-M1 AGP 2X (I don't know MH if that's relevant). BC That makes Matrox, ATI and Diamond cards. I just tested this on the BC machine beside this one -- an old Gateway 266 with one of my old BC Matrox Millennium 2Mb cards. I have an NVidia based card here and had one before that. I could never reproduce the problem since I heard about it many moons ago. I had a RIVA TNT and now I have a GeForce 2 MX. As Alexander mentioned, he can't reproduce the problem while others using the same card has he does with the same drivers can reproduce it. :-/ ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Wait! Clinton's How to Serve Taxpayers -- it's a COOKBOOK!' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOu5mqFfJ62ArBxfiEQLLJwCffTth6L6eE5Z9gqIPMRfPV9DDzlIAn1Zk MH1p8Sbe5vvSuPfvWPmFPnUm =uzVr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering Cc'd Messages ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:11:05 -0700, Nick contributed this to our collective wisdom: NA I received two messages this morning that were both filtered to my NA GnuPG Folder. What I cannot understand is how on earth I can filter NA those two messages so one goes into my Inbox, and still allow the NA second message through to be filtered into the GnuPG Folder? NA To: Nick Andriash [EMAIL PROTECTED] NA Cc: GnuPG Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] NA To: Nick Andriash [EMAIL PROTECTED] NA Cc: GnuPG Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] NA Is not the above a typical example of how you would construct a message to NA a Discussion Forum and Cc: a copy to a Member of that Forum? How do the NA rest of you filter messages addressed as such? To avoid this sort of problem, filter discussion list mail based on the Reply-To: header. Most Listserv's will include a 'reply-to' header in all messages coming from them. For example for every TBUDL message, you'll see in the headers: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will not appear in the message that is CC'd privately to you. Therefore check if such a header line exists for your GnuPG list mail: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and make that entire line your filter string and the location the Kludges. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Using yesterday's technology to solve today's problems, tomorrow' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOurv7FfJ62ArBxfiEQJr8gCgo+/zKZyOjrTLZLnF0Bt15+qY+VcAoNmL biZZdyilD5nKm8ZTchWeq0E3 =MbLm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Signature Delimiters?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 07:49:23 +0100, David contributed this to our collective wisdom: As you can see above Allie, it left the Begin PGP... line? DE I use one that leaves everything in before the normal cut line. DE I have at least one person who does not cut and respond to the DE relevant lines but just puts his reply at the top of my message. if i DE then have to reply to him all i get is my original message without his DE writings. This happens to me occasionally and in such a situation, I select the senders text and hit F4. Far more of my correspondents either don't quote or trim their quotes than those who quote everything at the end of their messages. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/11 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'I'm Not Schizophrenic, And Neither Am I.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuawClfJ62ArBxfiEQIDbwCeIsUggo+sBib9JyRKceg600RrbXAAoKnJ kNfEcTtj9X5RaftgUepZ4M4E =pDO/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: GnuPG Installation File for Windows Users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:24:47 +0200, Juergen contributed this to our collective wisdom: JFBTW: Look at my GnuPG installation guide. It's updated. JFwww.jfrisch.de/GPG-Install/ For us limited unilingual (English) speakers it's http://www.jfrisch.de/GPG-Install/Seiten-englisch/index.html - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) =- The Bat! v1.52 Beta/10 | Win2k (SP1) -- '9 out of 10 serial killers own cats.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/05.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuM5NlfJ62ArBxfiEQJLdgCeN67esidfoKlEbslDovkKGlriGC0Anjl3 ww8b+MrPJ1t1oO6K+Y3AiEzn =A2p0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Unable to Switch between Dial-up and LAN settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've been unable to switch between LAN and Dial-up Networking connection settings in the Network and Administration configuration panel since beta 4. The problem has persisted into the current beta. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin «» List Moderator (and fellow end-user) =- The Bat! v1.52 Beta/10 | Win2k (SP1) -- 'Matrimony isn't a word, it's a sentence.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/05.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuLa1VfJ62ArBxfiEQKE7wCfSE0jWyLlfdPEu0+c63aCokzcGVcAoNbo Rk2TuTgDDhSWiZmk5bHG7eZA =hZlU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Beta/4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 17:04:30 +0200, Peter thoughtfully wrote the following: PH with beta/4 I cannot select any external PGP option. Only "Internal" PH is available, the others are gray and it's impossible to select them. DvZ Not confirmed here. PH look at http://www.hampf.de/tb/tb_pgp.gif I'm not seeing this. I'm able to select the PGP version as usual. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOtB/7VfJ62ArBxfiEQKR7gCfR5rFhGRQ4YpsrZfVVdYUdnzX9tMAoKo2 g6a91EWpf3XKDnj4gVDEiX/9 =pZ3o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer able to verify signatures with PGP plugin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:07:55 +0300, Maxim graced us with these comments: ACM Is it me or is this new beta unable to verify signatures via the PGP ACM plugin? MM What version of PGP did you select to use? PGP 6.0.x/6.5.x plugin. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOtCAlVfJ62ArBxfiEQJDawCgqCr4NBA79aHkDGc9JSFOjIthThsAoLld QfUh+UE84gd5H+p15CvOKwrT =Xy6m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another small feature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:06:04 +0100, David graced us with these comments: DE If you receive an email which has been encrypted with PGP and the DE option to view in a secure viewer was set The Bat! plug-in overrides DE it and does not tell you!! DE Can this be confirmed with other versions of PGP apart from PGP DE 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01)? If you wish to use the secure viewer you need to use PGP tray. This has always been the case. TB!'s plugin will always decrypt messages by creating a duplicate message containing the deciphered text. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/3 | Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsxYuVfJ62ArBxfiEQJxkQCfZtBiuI/LL+ykVaY+Wp2R2DOnc+MAn3Pu Xve4AAO9uuOXfo+hOLOMqAvP =E5uB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another small feature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:04:19 +0100, David wrote these comments: If you wish to use the secure viewer you need to use PGP tray. DE That is exactly my point. DE If I send you something and encrypt to to the secure viewer only there DE is a reason for that. You as the receipted should not be able to DE override the sender wishes. How do you encrypt to a secure viewer? That option in the PGP options to only decrypt to the secure viewer is a local user option only and has nothing to do with what the user at the other end does with his encrypted messages. DE Otherwise what is the point in the sender stating that it should be to DE the secure viewer only! It's an option for you and not the recipient of your encrypted messages. DE A reason that the sender will want the message to the secure viewer is DE so that it can not be cut out and pasted. The Bat! can by pass this DE security restriction. Again that's up to the recipient and the level of security he wishes to exercise locally. DE IMHO this not correct. I have configured separate shortcuts for decrypting with the PGP Tray as opposed to TB!. If I wish to decrypt with the secure viewer I use the tray shortcut. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/3 | Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsxi3FfJ62ArBxfiEQL62ACgnnUiq7vY+3jGd23fQ50Q7di1yI0AnRBZ VuszFadQMpSicWrhbBKu0gVy =eX+7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another small feature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:19:40 -0500, A. contributed this to our collective wisdom: DE If I send you something and encrypt to to the secure viewer only there DE is a reason for that. You as the receipted should not be able to DE override the sender wishes. ACM How do you encrypt to a secure viewer? ACM That option in the PGP options to only decrypt to the secure viewer is a ACM local user option only and has nothing to do with what the user at the ACM other end does with his encrypted messages. Ignore that reponse there David. I see what you mean. I don't normally see the key selection dialog appear when sending encrypted messages since most of my recipients have only one key and PGP simply uses it automatically. Upon checking, I do see the option to which you refer and I now agree with you. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/3 | Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsxk5lfJ62ArBxfiEQIc8wCfRL6W5dQ+jfKr9ia9j0TOC+F/aXwAoMpl NqLcCU0A/lE/lmFPSjntGKIE =BiNs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beta/3 is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:17:00 +0200, Lars wrote these words of wisdom: LG I just played around a bit and found out that if you enter a birthday LG for an AB entry and you start TB! on that date (I just changed system LG date :-), you'll see a window saying that there are birthdays today LG and it asks you if you want to write birthday greetings. Are you saying that from your test, those who leave TB! running all the time will not benefit from this feature? - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | List Moderator (and fellow end-user) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/3 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsjSn1fJ62ArBxfiEQIV5ACePXRygb4gwuo0BEyo079JqjXE6NEAnRl+ VXSUNjsTrxvgW2JZsJViVGoS =FvSF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ritlabs The Bat! - bug report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:52:00 +0100, Marck contributed this to our collective wisdom: MDP Steps to reproduce the bug: Open a folder view into a folder MDP containing messages with attachments. Make the icon panel MDP wider. Switch to another message and back. Note that the MDP margin on the right is at least that of the panel. Repeat MDP process of widening and switching until you say: "Ah-ha! MDP That's wrong". Hmmm. I have text that flows out to the edge of the window when I resize the panel, switch away and then switch back. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | Moderator(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOr+5lFfJ62ArBxfiEQL0RQCfa7RAQUelDy50pM7E1vN4HYGZl+sAn3Dq OLN3J4+bveOM7NLrO3L36eYx =zfAd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ritlabs The Bat! - bug report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:23:14 +0100, Marck contributed this to our collective wisdom: ACM Hmmm. I have text that flows out to the edge of the window when ACM I resize the panel, switch away and then switch back. MDP My text definately reflows shy of the right window edge by the MDP width of the icon panel. I wonder if it's anything to do with MDP screen drivers? I don't know. :=/ Could be I guess. I did some further checking and don't see the problem. The text reflows to wrap at the screen edge. MDP Mine's S3 Savage MX at 1024x768 32bit TrueColor on an ASUS MDP HiGrade laptop. I'm presently using an ELSA Gladiac GeForce 2 MX at 1600x1200 32bit TrueColor .. Intel mobo. PS// Aren't the graphics board names just hilarious? - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | Moderator(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOr/a4lfJ62ArBxfiEQL8jQCg9tLXJhrUjuKL5V9sDlLPOwmrnH8AnRec aKr84OOK3rUuCPTPAjK2gQ5C =8pRu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ritlabs The Bat! - bug report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:23:34 -0500, Brian graced us with these comments: BC At first I didn't quite understand what you meant either, but now BC I can say that I'm not getting that result - due to your fine BC ASCII art representation! :) BC Diamond Viper TNT2 Ultra 32Mb Hmmm. I was wondering if it could have something to do with the editor settings, so I fiddled with some of my settings and cannot reproduce the problem. The reason for the link is that the editor settings do affect the message viewer settings. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | Moderator(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOr/vnFfJ62ArBxfiEQLUlACfZPVXh6N6tFmIpHj9DF8V620RM3sAoPuG nB2Q9bXRqaWUBe0f+gSYsFXO =0tFj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Test message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This is just a test message for the list which seems to have been down. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | Moderator(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOr1QRVfJ62ArBxfiEQL7/ACfSPwJ6cvKhR1xwZ3MlWiL7FeiFhMAoPY/ 8xUPyXwXJ5q+OW3oTo+lYRYf =znfP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: unacceptable cookies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:34:12 +0800, Thomas wrote these comments: T I don't think the tagline was offensive, but that's the deal with T moderated lists: if the moderates feel it was, then that's it. I personally don't find it offensive Thomas, but what *I* think is pretty much besides the point in the context of a public UDL. A moderator has to think of the whole list membership. The simple solution is to avoid posting such statements which may very well offend, annoy or make others uncomfortable, especially since it isn't useful information. T Those members who did find it offensive will not post their opinion T here; so never mind how many people say it was OK, the mods have T spoken. sigh ;-) :=) moderator note Let's close this thread now or continue it off-list. I think it has had it's due share of bandwidth. \moderator note - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49e | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOnkz+lfJ62ArBxfiEQLp1gCfUNuDvzoFXXPpdkY8rb+BZ+FyLdMAoL7v Y1ajPB7J8cO+WXEnrwkAlgl2 =94as -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.49d
Hi Wolfgang, Of course this post was intended to be private but I now and then slip up really badly and just hit F4 without thinking. My sincere apologies for this blunder. I had told Marck that I'd encrypt these sorts of messages to avoid problems and have faltered in this practice. Again, my apologies. On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:16:52 +0100, Wolfgang wrote these words of wisdom: ..rest snipped.. WK Of course this was a private note, not a moderator comment ;-) Great post there Wolfgang though there was one incident where Stefan officially announced the beta *before* it had been fully uploaded to the server. :=) But as always, one incident is blown out of proportion and suddenly Ritlabs is said to be notorious for doing it. It's nice to see you posting again. Do you mind my asking what caused the sudden increase in your participation? :=) - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49e | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.49d
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:16:52 +0100, Wolfgang wrote these words of wisdom: ..rest snipped.. WK Of course this was a private note, not a moderator comment ;-) Great post there Wolfgang though there was one incident where Stefan officially announced the beta *before* it had been fully uploaded to the server. :=) But as always, one incident is blown out of proportion and suddenly Ritlabs is said to be notorious for doing it. It's nice to see you posting again. Do you mind my asking what caused the sudden increase in your participation? :=) - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49e | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOnk7gVfJ62ArBxfiEQJomgCfWw/Kt7qKIK76PmWzOQwkrH8h9iEAoJEn gQccKkH0TEcapTuP6kYFglnO =fJWP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Where's BC: ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrew, On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, at 22:45:21 [GMT +1100] you wrote: I just went to create a message which I wanted to keep semi-private by Blind Carbon copying the recipients email addresses, but there is no BC: option? Only To: and CC: I would like a BC: Window just like the To: and CC: ones please. In the editor window, go to View - Blind CC and enable the option. The BCC field will appear for you to use. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49b | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOmWuAFfJ62ArBxfiEQJl6ACg/ZoHo5KolTp9gNJiGnPFdTHl1MAAn1eW pR+DEk48J/hbYhS69xqBCn3O =Bi6n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Access viloation in Beta/2 on exit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:57:33 +0100, Marek thoughtfully wrote the following: MM when I want to exit TB 1.49 Beta/2, TB display following error MM message: MM Access Violation at address 0052D07C. Read of address 416A7C03. Closes just fine here. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49 Beta/2 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOlRDRFfJ62ArBxfiEQL7OwCeOCCmnseTR0CIKm2BkoN3I/qB8fUAnjp9 FsTRNZ1xQOCAv65CaUE5y/8K =J83h -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.49 Beta/2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:17:00 +, Leslie Costar wrote these comments: LC Unless I'm missing something, I can't see these options in the LC Macros options.. Since I've been using TB! (since March 1999), only a few macros have been added to the Macro options lists in the template editor. LC Typing them in manually works fine. LC Is there a full list of all Macros that are available? In the help. Open the help contents and go to Message Templates | The Complete List of Template Macros. This has basically all the macros. The %MsgID and %OMsgID macros have just been introduced so you will not see them in this list. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49 Beta/2 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOlRe6FfJ62ArBxfiEQKQzgCgtg7NV2WFq9NjpYlX07cTeqBYyFIAoNSq rrzq/hIUBS6KB2G32LG5ZHeI =vwZt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - bug report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.48h Serial Number CCA4F9B8 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 and would like to report a bug The bug description: The %ABxxxppp macro is broken in the latest beta, version 1.49b2. I had to go back to the latest full release version to get them working again. Steps to reproduce the bug: I use the following macro in one of my address book groups reply template: %ABtoHANDLE="%ABtoFIRSTNAME" I noted just now that no name was being extracted from the address book. I went back to version 1.48h and things are back to normal. Regards, Allie Martin - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.48h | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOlTlrVfJ62ArBxfiEQIEbwCg4ZYULy4P5BzJ/lxvxIs4FHJ3TfAAoL9S 3STEdcac9YLCMAXfmLNqIEs8 =aE8Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Paste as formatted quotation anyone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The option to paste as formatted text is nice. What about its natural partner which is to paste text as a formatted quotation. I wish the quote prefix could also be customised via a dialog so that one could emphasize excerpts as the example below: » The moderators and list administrators are not affiliated with RIT » Labs or the development of TB, although the developers are, themselves » members of the list and will sometimes chip in. If you wish to contact » the developers, please use The Bat! main menu "Help .. Feedback" » options or, if you need to write to the programmers directly, send » mail to: - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.48h | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOk3hNlfJ62ArBxfiEQIFVgCgl3x6ET3jCMbiVHyZ07tLgf3t6RcAoK8u esSbaE6wnXQfC3PokwTOyhf8 =852g -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:33:35 -0500, Brian Clark wrote these words of wisdom: [...] BC Add to that: .. "when a folder or account is selected/highlighted in BC the folder list" BC In that situation, Ctrl+Enter doesn't do anything anyway. Or, at least BC on my machine it doesn't. :) What would you like it to do? Open a new message? CTRLN already does that consistently throughout the interface. BC I could have sworn it did this before I upped to one of the BC Betas. You mean open a new message. I've never noticed that. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ 'The future isn't what it used to be.' __ TB! v1.48d | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOjrN3lfJ62ArBxfiEQK0vQCgyTcsc7IqxgZKPHr98D/RcNrE0iQAninQ Tr2KDJ7+pzkIk+wVm+UOsvqH =ztRv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Fwd: Dial-Up Monitor jumping all over
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When I saw Thomas's message about " Dial-Up Monitor jumping all over ", I felt like making these comments: TF It's now so extreme that the top half of my dial-up monitor is almost TF always outside the screen and I cannot grab it at all. TF I do think the problem started with this beta series, maybe b7 or b8, TF that why I repost it on this list. I don't have this problem. Are you using any desktop enhancing software such as WindowBlinds or a virtual desktop manager. These may cause troublesome interactions and I've since stopped using them because of this. I assume you know how to retrieve the drifting window, i.e., click on it and hit altspace, select move from the drop down menu and moving the window with the arrow buttons. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ 'If your attack is going well, then it's an ambush..' __ TB! v1.48 Beta/11 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOjOJLFfJ62ArBxfiEQKXFwCfTk9KcBfHlMpPICm4Y70u9hzm+ssAnRL2 KGYKA0ZH45xtWwcWO961l9l1 =0XBB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Grid Index Out of Range Error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14 November, 2000, 9:51 AM, I saw Thomas's comments made on Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:14:09 +0800, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth: TF I'm not sure you got a reply to this (there wasn't one on the list), TF but it doesn't happen to me any more. TF Does anybody know when or if this was fixed? Wow! The second folder I tried it on came up with the "Grid Index out of bounds error". :-( I managed to continue the filtering but the message lists were all messed up and I had to restart TB!. - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "If your attack is going well, then it's an ambush.. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhFR7PAXeSHuB5k3EQLluQCgp+vSIadBLI2bw3x/+jizBQDzGxoAoKw+ XKIUpjiTwyVQDvJv6VMnGBuL =50nx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.48 Beta/4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 23:29:30 +0200, Maxim Masiutin wrote these comments about '1.48 Beta/4': MM [*] Improved Mail Dispatcher - it is now possible to select multiple MM messages and sort by clicking the column header. At last :-) Definitely a solid reason for me to update to this new beta and it works nicely. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Gambling: The sure way of getting nothing for something. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/4 (S/N CCA4F9B8) Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOgsswPAXeSHuB5k3EQL+BwCg1KAAqPKQ9TPvmCK5JurBCTdByIcAoKPS AaEO/ZpFvxYbIkrpMCHNZa/Y =pwH5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bug with using multiple Cookies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When I saw Ming-Li's message about "Bug with using multiple Cookies ", I just had to make these comments: ML Not confirmed, unless I'm misunderstanding your question. You didn't, as seen below. ML Here's my New template for a test folder: ML =Start of template= ML %COOKIE="g:\tmp5\cookie1.txt" ML %COOKIE="g:\tmp5\cookie2.txt" ML %COOKIE="g:\tmp5\cookie3.txt" ML =End of template= ML Is it what you described? Yes. ML If so, I tried to create new messages with it a few times, and the ML results were always correct. I did what you did and couldn't reproduce the problem. Very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to do this Ming. :-) Anyway, it would seem that it occurs when other macros are used in conjunction. If I place the %cookie macros one after the other then things are fine. If I use them practically in my reply templates the problem occurs. I'll have to narrow it down and find out exactly what's causing the problem. I'll get back to you on that after doing some more testing. For example, here's my reply template to this list: == %QINCLUDE="%COOKIE=""L:\Program Files\The Bat!\Cookies\udlintro.txt""" %Cursor %Quotestyle="I"%QINCLUDE="sigstrip" - -- %Qinclude="tbudl" %singlere %To=""%To="""%OFROMNAME on TBBETA"" [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and the output will look like this (I placed a comment in it): === On 05 November, 2000, 8:46 AM, I saw Ming-Li's comments made on Sun, 5 Nov 2000 05:17:43 -0800, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth: - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "intro5 " commentNote that my usual tagline should be here but a QT handle from the cookie file 'udlintro.txt' is inserted instead!!comment _____ TB! v1.47 Halloween Edition (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 = - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Writer's Rule #2: About those sentence fragments. " _ TB! v1.47 Halloween Edition (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOgVmE/AXeSHuB5k3EQJ1SgCg3MfdZLYPoTISdEuBsCcBJjPIxpEAninY VgWMrRVRxaW+CCu4s0N+rbNT =yFzD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bug with using multiple Cookies
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On Sun, 5 Nov 2000 05:17:43 -0800, Ming-Li wrote these
words of wisdom:
ML Not confirmed, unless I'm misunderstanding your question.
{snip}
ML Here's my New template for a test folder:
{snip}
ML If so, I tried to create new messages with it a few times, and the
ML results were always correct.
OK Ming, I managed to narrow it down.
If I create a cookie file consisting of QT handles and recursively call
these QT's using the %Qinclude and %cookie macros, this creates the
problem.
So if I define the following template:
%Qinclude="%Cookie=""path to QT handles list"""
%Cookie="cookie file"
The outputting of the second %cookie macro will be affected in that it
will take a cookie from the initial %cookie macros cookie file. A QT
handle will therefore be seen.
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Re: Bug with using multiple Cookies
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On Sun, 5 Nov 2000 07:14:47 -0800, Ming-Li wrote these
words of wisdom:
ML Confirmed.
You don't even need to be using three or more %cookie macros as I
thought. You only need to use two to see the problem, with the
%Qinclude="%Cookie=""cookie file""" preceding the other %cookie
macro.
ML I also found if you switch the two lines, the QT included won't be
ML seen at all. I.e., only the cookie from the "cookie file" would be
ML there.
Oh dear. The plot thickens. I confirm this.
ML Another observation: if you insert another line of %cookie between
ML the two lines, like this:
{snip}
ML then the second line would show the QT handle, but the third line
ML would be correct. So before RIT fixes it, this may serves as a
ML workaround, albeit awkward for You'll have to delete the wrong
ML cookie by hand.
This is exactly what I've been doing. I didn't delete what I
normally would this time around. :-)))
intro
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Re: Macro question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When I saw Andreas's message about "Macro question ", I just had to make these comments: AS I want to create a macro that automatically includes the time I AS received the mail I am replying to, Since this is not information easily extractable from message headers or message bodies, then one cannot be created using a regex. AS like "On November 5 at 21.00 you send me the following lines which I AS received on November 6 at 7.00 ..." Although there are macros for AS the current time and date and for the time a message was created, I AS can't find a macro for the time of receival. Am I blind or just too AS dumb to see or does this macro (still) not exist? Presently, AFAIK, TB! only provides macros for a) the present date and time when the macro is executed and b) macros to generate the original message time which is the message creation time corrected to your time zone. There is no supported macro to generate the time the message was locally received by TB!. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "The future isn't what it used to be. " _ TB! v1.47 Halloween Edition (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOgYgH/AXeSHuB5k3EQJ/ogCdHA09vejCPJterkF24kmqaXG3zksAn2ra Zb5A8lIebVTlprvvRP48AqJl =EFus -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: AUTH-UNSUB qMrHhefGtOnYhdLT45HJ6OeBzN3pmseP25vhgdHY18bYyozNYOvG2eTYoMjTjQ==
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:15:57 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote : [snip] MDP Nope. Nothing to do with mailto. Mailto links /can/ be affected by MDP the issue, but that is not the point. MDP It is *entirely* to do with what happens when you reply to a MDP message in a folder when you have a %TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" macro present MDP in that folder's reply template. If you look at the addressing of Manfred's message, you'll see To:"[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBETA" [EMAIL PROTECTED] He had the macro : %To=""%To="""%OFROMNAME on TBBETA"" [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the reply template for his TB folder. He gets his unsubscription confirmation notice which is filtered to his TB folder and generates the reply message: a) The %To="" cleans away the rightful address. In this case [EMAIL PROTECTED] B) The %To="""%OFROMNAME on TBBETA"" [EMAIL PROTECTED]" inserts the wrong address. It indeed has nothing to do with mailto: links. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "I know it all. I just can't remember it all at once. " _ TB! v1.47 Halloween Edition (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOfsddPAXeSHuB5k3EQIa8gCcC0/YI4CBufRlXm8rLyt7pEZDkmIAoN/v 1o7mgC1kIZvovSw9SgPT1D3N =2u/j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: AUTH-UNSUB qMrHhefGtOnYhdLT45HJ6OeBzN3pmseP25vhgdHY18bYyozNYOvG2eTYoMjTjQ==
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:57:03 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote these comments about 'AUTH-UNSUB qMrHhefGtOnYhdLT45HJ6OeBzN3pmseP25vhgdHY18bYyozNYOvG2eTYoMjTjQ==': [snip] MDP One more time: Don't use %TO macros in folder templates. MDP THIS IS NOT A POINT OF DISCUSSION ANY MORE. THIS IS AN INSTRUCTION. I hear and feel your pain Marck. However, I got a couple messages protesting your perhaps overbearing stance on the issue. :-) I hear their pain as well. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle buttons " _ TB! v1.47 Halloween Edition (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOfspB/AXeSHuB5k3EQJPYgCcC0cMUJ2ud7lNwRlolLGIRF5Up+AAoLcY OU8YMi2ExkkzPsF/Lt10PQx4 =nMuo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: AUTH-UNSUB qMrHhefGtOnYhdLT45HJ6OeBzN3pmseP25vhgdHY18bYyozNYOvG2eTYoMjTjQ==
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:29:11 -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote : ACM [snip] MDP One more time: Don't use %TO macros in folder templates. MDP THIS IS NOT A POINT OF DISCUSSION ANY MORE. THIS IS AN INSTRUCTION. ACM I hear and feel your pain Marck. ACM However, I got a couple messages protesting your perhaps overbearing ACM stance on the issue. :-) ACM I hear their pain as well. :-) My apologies to the list and to Marck for this. This was not intended for the list. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "He who sitteth on an upturned tack shall surely rise. " _ TB! v1.47 Halloween Edition (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOfs6DfAXeSHuB5k3EQKjhwCfTNMkSClfim92g45eZZ5/YFRwSGIAnAm8 w8USjZJr7IfPXa8QmTaMcvgh =LUT1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %TO in folder templates (was: Re: AUTH-UNSUB ...)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:50:36 +0200, MaXxX wrote these comments about '%TO in folder templates (was: Re: AUTH-UNSUB ...)': MDP So what happens when /you/ click on the un-subscribe link below? I'll MDP wager it gets changed to the wrong address g. See what I mean now? M Then the wage is mine. I get a new message window, clearly addressed M to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I sent it just to test, and M received the confirmation request. I didn't reply to it, of course, M but the reply would get sent to mdaemon@whatever, with no problem :) Do you have 'This account is the default for mailto: URL's' enabled in one of your accounts? - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Tact: making a point without making an enemy. " _ TB! v1.47 Halloween Edition (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOfs/gvAXeSHuB5k3EQLJ/QCeLMeKXcwzj5oX3LKIpWVyPbZec0UAn1um cNCSDDrMIzrbM4zX7cQwZKR7 =vL5a -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: dragging messages to folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 15:39:34 -0600, Quin Selman wrote: QS Thanks for the list of drag messages to folders procedures. Finally, QS I'm not confused about them :-) You're welcome. Thanks for the verification note. At least I know it was not in vain. g - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Never draw fire, it irritates everyone around you " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOe4cLPAXeSHuB5k3EQJZ5QCglrFWrgjkWi+1MiThu2wjczInxAkAnR8U A2OOIxzbVDSrad10fc9woqzL =Mb5e -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: S/MIME Auto-Responder by Entrust
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:49:08 +0200, Christian Gassmann wrote: CG "EntrustFileSMIME constructor returned error (-790) The certificate is CG no longer valid. It has expired." Don't you have to annually renew your certificate? - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Sergeant Major. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOer6jPAXeSHuB5k3EQLCBQCgtl790X63EBT494TDGz90yM/XqzsAnjQX 0cWXoDrnZ2LvqWbBokb2lrZs =fNuY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: unsubscribe
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:21:12 -0700, Januk Aggarwal wrote:
JA unsubs?c?r?i?b?e?Subject Yes
JA Enable Regular Expressions and have it moved to the trash. The '?'
JA characters are there so that typos would be caught. Can anyone think
JA of a better way to catch typos?
unsub([scribe]{0,7})? should do it. This would allow the mixing up of
letters and an occasional extra letter or missing letters. :-)
But I wonder how worthwhile the regex is considering they're hitting the
mailto: link.
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Re: The Bat! - suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:45:06 +0200, Christian Lange wrote: Signal String: String : ^In-reply-To.+@kasnet\.com$ Location: Kludges Presence: Yes CL wouldn't this still trigger for any reply to someone at your ISP? Yes it would. But it would be extremely unusual for this to be of practical concern. You can restrict the filter by adding other conditions as I Marck and I indicated in subsequent messages. eg: adding: String : Reply-To.*tbudl@ Location: Kludges Presence: yes will restrict the catch only to tbudl messages. You may add even more string matches to cone things down even further. CL IMHO the problem is, that the domain part in hte message ID is taken CL from the email address in the account settings. I think better CL solutions would be to take the doamin from the network settings or CL make it configurable. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Wicked Good. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeRyN/AXeSHuB5k3EQJmlQCaAg+hJ0pT1myxdFIuiI05g+o1/yYAmgLO XdS/y9T3rG8qliQHIhCwr3L2 =/LTC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:38:10 +0200, Christian Lange wrote: Yes it would. But it would be extremely unusual for this to be of practical concern. CL I disagree here. I am on more than one mailing list, with quite active CL members who share the same ISP. And even though I wouldn't sound an CL alarm I would like to colour threads I am involved different. I said 'unusual', not 'impossible'. :-) Your situation is indeed rather unusual. I agree that in your case the filter wouldn't be selective enough. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeR/7/AXeSHuB5k3EQLIZACfcmnxRYqGBtO4N+GIiJZ916BsqZQAoJVP cPJ6JiPENWM08Sf/vcCn3ndU =pyTE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:06:57 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF That's what I'm saying g. While I personally filter only messages TF "from" myself (to mark them read), not messages "to" myself, I think TF it would work only if my name actually is in the TO field. Again, this will not always be the case for discussion list mail. Many of the messages that are replies to mine, do not have my name in the To: field but simply the listserv address. The only way my name will appear in the To: field is if the 'Do not use From name for Reply-To Address' option is disable in the account options, or the special macro %To=""%To="%OFromNameTBUDL%thebat.dutaint.com" is used. TF In-reply-to cannot be used, unless 1.) everybody uses an email TF client that uses the ehader, and 2.) everybody uses a different ISP TF (just see how many people on this list alone are on GMX, Hotmail, or TF Yahoo to make Christian's point). Neither solution is ideal in all instances. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Vuja De - The Feeling You've Never Been Here " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeSIy/AXeSHuB5k3EQLyRQCgtdcTO/IudZ+FHl8qJ75pMDlMck8An2yR YdMW+jWMsvX+L5nb3zJWsYHJ =MmMK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Thread watchers (was: The Bat! - suggestions)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:54:59 -0700, Ming-Li wrote: ML That's even better. If you're serious in getting a newsreader ML (haven't you got one already?), though, I would suggest you start ML with Gravity or XNews, both having the same or similar capability. If you're interested in offline reading, then Gravity is the better of the two. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Trust me, I'm a lawyer.. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeSZtvAXeSHuB5k3EQLt4wCdH+gcr5CL2bZDIdlUhkVSCLAM8hEAn18v fGKnzhMc+8epZRcCwzvg8mKp =CJj8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: LDAP Searching
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 09:13:56 +0100, Graham Foster wrote: GF I've not tried exactly what you are doing - but the 'IS this book GF tied to an LDAP directory' option gives TB! permission to store all GF search results in this 'address book' - To do that - every search GF scrubs down the previous search results - and starts with a new GF query on the remote LDAP directory. I see. Well, it certainly will not do that again. GF The address book is therefore just a 'work area' for TB! to store GF stuff in (who to access it - last search details, search results etc) GF Sorry you lost stuff . I had a backup. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "The buck doesn't even slow down here! " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeG40vAXeSHuB5k3EQLPOQCg41xb0Mig/BE4Wf42ARK5O1m6WM4AniP6 oL7hOMQ8FbF/zykRw/+of6wn =iG8B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Bug in %signcomplete macro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:37:18 -0700, Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA I wonder if the %clear macro would help here? I don't have any of JA this security stuff installed to test it, but it might be worth a JA shot. I wouldn't expect that it would work, but given some of the JA strange macro behaviour being described, who knows? Nifty idea Januk, but it doesn't work. :-( - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "A good pun is its own reword. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeJboPAXeSHuB5k3EQIkBACgoh7oV/7ZsXH32QBZeEr9h+6Un6AAn0SQ fL6GreG6+joAJRKaoDbojQ1i =ZFsK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: beta/6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:31:44 +0200, Maxim Masiutin wrote: I've noted a bug in this new beta. When I open the account properties, a macro editor menu appears. When I select any item or click anywhere on the screen for that matter, the account properties appears. MM [+] Hint pop-up appears when moving a mouse pointer over a folder MM name, which was shortened in a list of folders of a main window. Nice. This also works when one of the message tally columns are out of view. You can now move one of them out of view as I have done with the total messages column. When you pass the mouse over a folder, the total messages is displayed. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Wait! Clinton's How to Serve Taxpayers -- it's a COOKBOOK! " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/6 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOd22OfAXeSHuB5k3EQIHjwCfQk/qvz/98iBkNXPCnhpiN0XZEvAAnA12 M21nkutEYNU/E1ra8UgxevXU =SLkd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: [Wish] Disable all online activity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:26:23 +0100, Chris Wilson wrote: I don't use TB's auto-dial, but NT's own auto-dial. Thus, this option doesn't work for me. CW Likewise. I use ISDN under NT. I want TB to do nothing unles a CW connection is already up. In which case I want it to check for mail CW every X minutes. Once off line again I want it to realise this and not CW try to check mail with no connection to the net, nor try to initiate CW one, if you see what I mean? The TB! network settings option 'No automatic dialling for periodic checking' does it for me. In order to use this option you have to have 'dial-up networking connection' enabled as well. I always have periodic checking enabled in the account options and when I disconnect, TB! never attempts to check or start a reconnection. As Thomas said earlier, remember that these settings may be made account specific and that the account specific options will override the default if being used. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "You're not paranoid if everybody is really after you. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOd0oLPAXeSHuB5k3EQLgVgCfYOweAQrZS4QYSBPrwNmkQQ/0yfQAoIJO yQRNZef8R/ZotiAvBa+gs6wT =u3vs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: MAPI tests with new DLL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:11:33 -0600, Quin Selman wrote: snip ML If this is the first time you have ever installed TB's MAPI support, ML then I have no idea what is going on, since Stefan just clarified ML the issue. QS What was the clarification? I didn't see it. I know most people were QS saying that the switch should be used only if mapistub.dll was not QS present. There was a dissenting voice or two saying that it should be QS used regardless. Since nothing worked for me without the switch, I QS used it even though the stub file was present in my system. Then MAPI QS worked. Quin, you're not alone on this. This was my exact experience. Despite the mapistub.dll being on my system as well. TB!'s MAPI worked properly for me only after running /INSTALLMAPI. :-/ QS I have only Office97 installed. Let me clarify just what is mailed QS using Excel as an example. You tell me if it's MAPI that's doing its QS thing. QS I open a tab-delimited database in Excel. I can then do what I want QS with formatting, etc. I then Send to Mail Recipient. The Bat! opens up QS an new Edit Mail Message window, attaches the TXT file and sends it. QS So it's the original tab-delimited text file that's sent. QS Or, I save the formatted database in Excel in Workbook format. I thn QS open the resulting XLS file in Excel and Send to Mail Recipient. The QS XLS is sent by TB! as an attachment. QS Is that MAPI doing that? Yes it is. QS Is that how it's supposed to work? I'd say yes. :-) QS I'm still a bit confused. I do know that prior to installing TB!'s QS MAPI, Office97 apps would only tell me I need to configure Exchange QS if I tried to Send to Mail Recipient. You seem to have MAPI working well with Excel. It's pretty clear to me now that each persons track record seems to very somewhat. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdO34PAXeSHuB5k3EQJXQQCcDx4Ggt+TSLd9snfB6faSKZ8ALUEAoJQl p61HzE8kRiZrSohKOt7X66Ao =KFFd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: MAPI working apps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:08:03 +0200, Andreas Rumpenhorst wrote: AR Here are the working applications with TB!-MAPI as for now: Thanks Andreas. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Never test for an error you don't know how to handle. " Using TB! v1.46d Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdPLTfAXeSHuB5k3EQKSUQCffftlWj3t4WTwOZqW1+5oui4/QL8An1/A zKrUFynnt+PvUyRkokuEt0z6 =qy54 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: tb1.47b2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:32:24 -0500, Chuck Mattsen wrote: CM And it's RAR'ed, too ... that really frosts me for some reason. :-) CM Heck, might as well start distributing the list in .pdf all of a CM sudden and require everyone to download that, too. I hear your cry. :-) However, for what it's worth, this compression format is saving you in the order of 250KB less download for this executable. Now for the cable/DSL/T1 connection toting fans, this is negligible but for me, it's significant. There's a free UNRAR utility at RARSoft. Only 88KB in size. You can get it at ftp://rarsoft.ti.sk/pub/rar/unrarw32.exe - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Every morning is the dawn of a new error... " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/2 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOcaA2PAXeSHuB5k3EQIvCgCgko07+Qs9f1zA46T5AsYXSccz/GQAn0II lXzA1rlfxnriojKz6jkDNi6o =YybM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: The Bat! version 1.46 - previw mode copying
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:54:40 +0100, Graham Foster wrote: GF Even AFTER the modifier key is released, the selection mode remains GF active until another modifier key is selected. Now this is OK in the GF message editor as there is an indicator in the status bar.. there is GF no such indicator in the message preview list.. Hmmm. Can't duplicate the problem here. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "A proverb is the wisdom of many and the wit of one. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOcH+pfAXeSHuB5k3EQJQ/gCdHuXUAevti0p9GpGAvpi03w0dAu8AoJUv mhutiv8ajVHaULGvS0n8noSw =x9ly -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: V2 under Linux (was: beta/6)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:29:10 +0100, Deryk Lister wrote: It's difficult to declare this sort of issue a dead horse. It will crop up a lot, and really aught to be addressed even briefly on each occasion. :-) DL Never know these days, have to tread carefully on the lists "ph34r DL da tr0ut" ;) ;-D Well, we don't keep a trouting record. Trouting isn't meant to stifle you too much. :-) DL There are still many things to learn about it, what about all the DL hidden keys :) A couple of fan sites with all the hidden keys listed DL don't count as documentation IMNSHO Granted. But it's the lack of documentation that make these keys 'hidden'. Also, you don't have to learn the keys either to operate TB!. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOcIDIPAXeSHuB5k3EQLyMACdHrEL6pc5SspHdPhlQE8+ZhxD2JoAoIAR M2qKf/rywPUgKUTzD1T9i00m =GXvS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: BUG: Message list colour editor problem.
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:58:06 -0700, Ming-Li wrote: If you wish to change/modify the colour in one of the message list colours that you have defined, it can be annoyingly tedious because when you open the colour editor dialog, it doesn't start with the colour already defined. Instead it starts with black all the time! ML Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I can't confirm this. When I try to ML edit any of the existing color group, TB always show me the current ML color designation. Hehehe. I saw the lack of clarity in what I wrote and decided that I'd clarify as needed. The problem occurs with custom colour changes. You can create a new message colour for experimentation. Create an arbitrary custom colour. You now test it, decide that it's too dark and wish to lighten it a bit. You go back to message colour properties, hit the colour edit button. It doesn't start at the present colour but on black. In fact, if you have any custom colours defined at present, try to make a small change to the colour in one of them. The editor doesn't start with the colour defined but with black. This doesn't happen with the editor custom colours. -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "Even in this corner of the galaxy, Captain, 2+2=4 ... Spock " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: BUG: Advanced filtering fails
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 13:28:03 +0100, John Sullivan wrote: JS This isn't important by the way - the same happens whatever message I JS have selected - I just mention it to identify the results. JS I want to display only those messages from RIT themselves, so I choose View-Display-Advanced Filtering... All flags are initially turned JS off (I double check this), so I switch to Header, and select "The JS sender's name" "Contains" either "ritlabs" or "ritlabs.com" (same JS effect on either). JS When I hit OK, there is a single message displayed: a message from JS Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED], Message-ID: JS [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Hmm. JS I escape out, search for the last message from Stefan and Alt-Click JS his name. The drill-down shows about 180 other messages, all sent from JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] None of these were shown by the filter I tried to JS apply, and the one message that was shown in no way mentioned ritlabs JS in any of the Sender fields. As far as I can see here, the display (advanced message filtering) uses the info that's displayed in the message listing. IOW's, if a message is from Stefan Tanurkov [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Stefan Tanurkov will be displayed in the message list and this is all that you'll be able to use in the advanced filtering. It seems to filter the message list and not the messages. This is why it's so *quick*. If you need to do the type of search you desire you have to use the formal search applet. Redo the search and this time look for messages with the sender name containing 'stefan' and you should have your list. If I stick to this concept of using strings that only occur in the message list then it works everytime. :-) It's the same with the quick search and the alt-click listing. If there is no match when the filtering is done, only the last message in the list is displayed. This is a bug, IMHO, because it confuses the user into thinking that it's a match. -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "Constant change is here to stay. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Ticker VF message list column settings problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've been using the ticker since the colour coding is now working in the ticker virtual folder listing. What I've noticed is that the tickers virtual folder (VF) doesn't have it's own message list column settings. It uses the message list column settings for the folder view message list in which the first message being viewed resides. Take for example, I have new messages in my Inbox, TB Lists and PGP Basics folders. I fire up the ticker VF and all new messages are displayed *together* in a single list for browsing. To open the ticker VF, I have to double click on *any* message in the ticker. If I double click on a PGP Basics message, the ticker VF's message list will have the same column settings as the view-folder message list for the PGP folder. The same happens if I double click on a TB List message. The ticker VF adopts the same message list settings as the TB list folder's view-folder window. The ticker VF needs it's own message list settings. In this way, I can have the 'Folder' column enabled which will tell me where each message actually is. What I have to be doing now is adding the Folder column to all the folders view-folder settings. This doesn't however fix the fact that some view-folder windows are set to thread messages while others aren't. :-( - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Skiier: Someone who pays an arm and a leg to break them. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBObo1N/AXeSHuB5k3EQIr+QCg4z9aTKzIMK932xjHJWi3yqs4BnEAoP3q OtDbrr9PEanjBAsPX78h5tdU =sxbh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: BUG: Advanced filtering fails
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 14:19:50 +0100, John Sullivan wrote: IOW's, if a message is from Stefan Tanurkov [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Stefan Tanurkov will be displayed in the message list and this is all that you'll be able to use in the advanced filtering. It seems to filter the message list and not the messages. This is why it's so *quick*. JS There's no reason why the full sender/recipient information JS shouldn't be available to searches, with no noticeable loss in JS speed. (We're talking about header information, not the mesage body JS which I agree could slow it down considerably.) You mentioned that it fails to work. I'm clearing this up by indicating that it *does* work once you know what it really does. How it is implemented to work is a different matter. I personally have no problem with how it works at present, since the formal search applet is pretty much there for you to use as well and it supports full header and whatever searching that you like. It will display the results in a message list fashion etc. It is in fact consistent behaviour if you ask me. Among the *message list* display options is an advanced display filtering option which intuitively implies that it's filtering strings in the message list display. I personally didn't expect it to work otherwise. I guess the developers and I are on the same wavelength. shrug JS And this also fails to address the fact that a single message JS remains visible, that in no way at all satisfies the filter JS criteria! Well, I did say that I considered that to be a bug. :-) See: ACM If there is no match when the filtering is done, only the last ACM message in the list is displayed. This is a bug, IMHO, because it ACM confuses the user into thinking that it's a match. -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "Hard work must have killed someone! " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: BUG: Advanced filtering fails
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 07:44:36 -0700, Ming-Li wrote: ML To achieve this, the information has been pulled from the headers of ML individual messages to form a virtual database (table). Information ML not available in this virtual database (e.g., message id) can't be ML used in a display filter. Since only the "real name" part of the ML sender is displayed in the message list (and exists in the virtual ML database), it's not possible to filter messages based on the email ML address part. Trying to go through the headers of all messages would ML indeed slow down the process. More importantly, trying to do that ML would make the display filter function identical to the Search tool, ML which doesn't make sense. Agreed. ML You may, however, suggest RIT to include the email address part in ML the message list virtual database, so it can be used in display ML filters. Why? Hit F7 and the search tool is there in front of you. It opens with the appropriate folder already selected for the search. Just tick sender and type in the string and you're done. Hit Esc just like with the main window to get rid of the display. ML Of course, others may want to suggest other header fields to be ML included as well. It would ultimately be up to RIT to decide what to ML include and what to leave out, trying to strike the best balance ML between memory usage, speed, convenience, and flexibility. I'm glad ML it's not my job. :) I really don't see the point in mirroring a function that's already there. If it was more convenient I'd agree but it really isn't. The advanced filtering is placed among the message list display choices for a reason. Because it only searches for strings in the message list. The 'quick search' does this as well. And this also fails to address the fact that a single message remains visible, that in no way at all satisfies the filter criteria! ML I think Curtis has made it clear that (he thinks, and I agree) it's ML a bug. Yup! ;-) -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "An error? Impossible! My modem is error correcting. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
BUG: Message list colour editor problem.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, If you wish to change/modify the colour in one of the message list colours that you have defined, it can be annoyingly tedious because when you open the colour editor dialog, it doesn't start with the colour already defined. Instead it starts with black all the time! This is in contrast to Explorer and the TB! editor preferences where if you wish to modify any defined colours the colour editor starts you off at the colour that is presently defined. This makes fine tuning the desired colour much easier. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "To test a man's character, give him power. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBObpmxfAXeSHuB5k3EQLAgACfTZWQcfnhSUKeLxbdJOjYWG8hrZsAoJqm 5/JjYCfG13K6Yg5+bbJbSDHg =8dIt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: BUG: Advanced filtering fails
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:57:09 +0100, John Sullivan wrote: JS Think about what you're actually trying to achieve by Alt-Clicking on JS one of the address columns. Not what you expect, within your JS experience, a computer program to do, but what you really want it to JS do. (Within my experience it could do anything right up to making JS dragons fly out of your nose. Do you think that's too cynical?) Yes. The introduction of sarcasm of this nature illustrates a certain level of disregard and lack of respect for what I may think. I have read your opinion and it's duly noted. Let's drop this shall we? I have no desire to further to discuss this if this is what is happening. I felt the beginnings of it a long time before. -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "The meek shall inherit the earth, if that's OK with you " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.46b4
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:58:07 -0400, Peter Gannushkin wrote: PG Does anybody know what is new in just released 1.46b4? I just noticed it myself and downloaded it. I haven't noted anything obvious. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46/4 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "The world is a cynic's playground. " -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problems with forward
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:22:22 +0400, Drunin wrote: D Could somebody please provide me with some information on 'Couldn't D export message' message. It seems to happen again and again when I D forward mail with attachments, but I failed to reproduce it. Is this MIME forwarding that you're referring to? D Where to look? What are common problems which can prevent TB! from D exporting? I have never had a problem in this regard. It will likely have a problem if the attachment which is required for exporting isn't where it should be or has been deleted somehow. Had you moved your mail accounts folder to another location on disk or moved the message which you are trying to export to another account? D The most awful thing is that attachments disappear from the D attachment pane and are wiped from the disk after I unsuccessfully D tried to forward the message. D Original message has also lost it - files just disappeared from the D attach folder. Really disappointed. Hmmm. Never experienced this. Is this attachment type specific because you are implying that this is a sporadic event. D This is a record from original message source (files were D MIME-attached) -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "And the only thing the Borg left was this Macintosh... " -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problems with forward
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:01:03 +0400, Drunin wrote: snip ACM Hmmm. Never experienced this. Is this attachment type specific because ACM you are implying that this is a sporadic event. D I have just tried to repeat it since I store my mail on server for two days. D There is something interesting. D I have very short autosave delay, 30sec. D I forward the message, edit a message then wait until Modified flag will D blank out. Send message = Cannot export, attachments deleted D RITs recently changed the way they are naming attaches while autosaving D (previously they just incremented file postfix). Now it results in slight D changing its names when TB! autosave message. Probably, references D to attached files in original message and in the forwarded (being edited) D somehow interfere. Hmmm. May I suggest turning off the auto-save feature and seeing if you lose attachments. If not, then it's likely to be the auto-save feature that is deleting the attachments. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "What you enjoy is much more important than what you have. " -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:37:12 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP Write a message with "Sign when complete" checked. Park it as a MDP draft then click into the outbox and uncheck the "draft" flag on MDP the message. If this message is unsigned, the your bug is confirmed. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Daddy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C: mean? " -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Lift bar
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:33:45 -0700, Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA Nope, we were just discussing this problem (and various incarnations JA of this bug) on TBUDL. There are three scenarios where the scroll JA bar disappears (what you called the lift bar. Scroll bar is just JA more general.) JA 1. The bug you described. I've seen this on occasion. JA 2. Something very similar. Create a new message, (or a reply, it JA doesn't matter) type a couple of lines so it all fits into one JA window. Now use the arrow keys, page up/down keys or scroll wheel JA mouse to scroll down (or horizontally). The scroll bars do not JA appear. For me the scroll-bars appear as soon as I start typing after moving the cursor down or sideways. JA 3. If %Cursor is *after* %Quotes in your reply template, scroll bars JA will not appear. I have tried this and the scroll-bars appear. :-/ The plot thickens. Is this an OS specific problem? I'm using Win2k. Could be a Win98 issue. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "From my brain, an organ with a mind of its own. " -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Reading messages issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:06:12 -0700, Ming-Li wrote: ML I often wonder about that myself. The rule of thumb is to see if a ML bug or feature exists only in beta software. In reality, however, ML I've found myself using beta software most of the time, and not sure ML when a potential bug was introduced. Accordingly, I've always used ML TBUDL unless I'm "sure" something is related only to the betas ML (S/MIME, e.g.). To avoid any confusion, if you are using a beta version of TB!, you should confine bug reports to the beta list. Feature requests are of course welcome or suggestions for improved or changing present implementation of features is welcome on TBUDL. However, suggestions or questions on recently added features that are present only in beta versions should be done only on the beta list. I understand what you're saying though Ming. The beta's have been so common that it's difficult to keep in one's mind a precise boundary between what features/fixes are still in beta and what are not. The only way to deal with this is to lay down black and white rules as above. :-) - -- - -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "The best defense is to stay out of range. " -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 Comment: Included for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOZy1ffAXeSHuB5k3EQL01gCbBBZVpx90Ydm/SjvJktzOhgXYrQQAoIYK pBD07P6i8kFjZW5QK0C43wSi =oiDi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report - Bug in Attachment sending!
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:20:50 +0200, Dirk Heiser wrote: DH If i compose a new message, attach a File (with DragDrop), delete DH the File from the HDD and Send the message. The Result is that the DH message send with an empty Attachment. DH Settings are: DH - Store Attachments in message Bodys. DH - Bind Attchmants only while send mails out are _not_ checked. These are my settings as well. snip DH Create a new message, attach a file with DragDrop, delete this DH file from the HDD, send the message to yourself and try to open DH the attachment. Opened OK here. :-/ Hmmm. I can't reproduce this bug. I sent myself attachments using drag and drop and also using the attachments toolbar button. I deleted the files from the source directory and then sent the messages. Both attachments were there on checking. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "I'm not tense, just terribly A*L*E*R*T!! " -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report - Bug in Attachment sending!
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:29:52 +0200, Dirk Heiser wrote: ACM Opened OK here. :-/ ACM Hmmm. I can't reproduce this bug. I sent myself attachments using drag ACM and drop and also using the attachments toolbar button. I deleted the ACM files from the source directory and then sent the messages. Both ACM attachments were there on checking. DH I use the "Send Now" Button from the message Editor (The Tool Bar DH Button), perhaps there are the difference. Yes, this is the difference. Put the message in the outbox before deleting the attachment source. Apparently the attachment isn't bound before the message reaches the outbox. This may be implementation and not a bug. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Brevity is the soul of lingerie. " -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:46:16 +0400, Alexander Drunin wrote: AD Sometimes I think that I like TB! mostly because of bugs :-) ..At AD least I find myself enjoying some of them. Feh! That's not sounding too good. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "My favourite mythical creature? The honest politician. " -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
