Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 at 09:07:37 +0200, Roger wrote: Versions 4.2.44.2 and 5.0.22.3 and Windows7 all display 24hr times, and the TB versions display the day and time for the current week, and display the time only for the current day, all 24hr. Version 5.0.22.4 displays the full 12hr date and time for all messages. Not sure if this will resolve your problem, but I had that when I installed v4.2 on Win 7 for the first time. Roelof solved the problem for we with this suggestion You can set the time date/format with something: d mmm ,t That way you should get the default time format, when you set the time like hh:nn then you can force am/pm by adding the ampm parameter like this: hh:nn ampm, that implies that only hh:nn would give you the 24 hour format. The ampm parameter won't work with the t an tt settings I have hh:nn set on my version of TB and it forces 24 hr format. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.42 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current beta is 5.0.22.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:
On Tue, 24 May 2011 at 23:49:08 +0700, Thomas wrote: SH Not sure if I explained it enough. SH If you park on a message in the inbox and then press return or SH double click to open it into a new window then in v4 the focus was SH on the e-mail text pane No, it wasn't. Focus is on the message list in v4, too. There seems to be no change in behaviour. Sorry. Not in my version. If, when I open the new window, I have Show Message List ticked, the focus is on the message list. But if that option is not set (i.e. I had unset it the previous time) the focus is on the e-mail text pane. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.42 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current beta is 5.0.12.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:
On Wed, 12 May 2010 at 22:22:27 +0700, Thomas wrote: The Check Mail At Startup setting has been flaky for at least the past few builds. M For quite a few builds. See this BT report from 26-Apr-2007 M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6351 Thanks, I was looking for this bug report. I have just added a note that I still experience it *sometimes* with this version. That's interesting, because I *used* to experience that problem. It started for me with version 3.85 and stopped in one of the early v4 releases. I haven't seen it happen now for quite some time. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.1 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.2.33.3 Beta] Problem with Macros and Address-Book
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 at 13:44:49 +0100, Volker wrote: I do not know in which version it broke, but it *definitely* worked in previous versions: I use this macro in some templates: %If:%ToAddr=%ABToEmail:TEXT_A:TEXT_B This in general works fine as long as there is only *one* eMail-Address assigned to the corresponding address-book contact, i.e. TEXT_A is displayed. But if more than one eMail-Address is assigned to a contact and you choose the *secondary* Address, TEXT_B is displayed although it has to be TEXT_A. Can someone confirm this bug? I tried this in v4.2.23 and if the To address is a secondary address, I get TEXT_B displayed. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.23 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current beta is 4.2.33.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is this a Beta test list?
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 at 14:46:00 +1100, Ian wrote: But wait, there's more. Rather than go through the various versions in my folder, I decided to download the latest version on the RITLabs web site. Now you would think that being the publicly available download it would be a release version. That's what I thought, only after downloading and installing it, first execution sees it come up with an alert telling me that it is an ALPHA version and to accept the risks of using an ALPHA version. This is supposed to be the release version. I look at TBUDL and there is says that the current version (release version) is 4.2.23, only try and download it from the web site and you actually get 4.2.23.1 Alpha. My version (downloaded yesterday from the download site) doesn't tell me it is an alpha version. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.23 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current beta is 4.2.24.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question about exporting / importing message base
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 at 02:10:54 +0700, Thomas wrote: Hello Martin, I don't know anything about Vista. But my advice is to never use OTFE. It is simply impossible to recover messages that where mysteriously lost during during maintenance. If you need encryption, use a software that encrypts your particition or folder. This way, any *.bin file created by the maintenance center can be recovered within that partition or folder. And I reckon you can't go past TrueCrypt (www.truecrypt.org) for functionality at any cost. Besides which it's free. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.10.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current beta is 4.2.10.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Create Date in Message Search shown as UTC
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 at 01:13:21 +0700, Thomas wrote: JF This is calculated in the wrong direction, the Header means This Time JF Stamp is +1000 hours from UTC - not add +1000 to get to UTC! You confuse me here. You mean GMT+0100 (CET), not GMT+1000 (New Zealand time), right? Hey, that's Eastern Australian time, New Zealand is UTC+1200. You'd better be careful, Kiwis don't like being mistaken for Australians. Watch out for sheep in disguise lying in wait around the next corner! -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current beta is 4.2.9.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.2.6] Support of TNEF broken
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 at 23:55:06 +0200, Volker wrote: I do not know how long it is broken, but in the current version the TNEF support does not seem to work, i.e. The Bat! does not extract Outlook's winmail.dat files. I have never succeeded in getting TB to display winmail.dat files. I always have to use an external program to display them. So although it works for some people, there must be something that prevents it working in some installations. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current beta is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.2.6] Support of TNEF broken
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 at 04:17:39 +0200, Marek wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 at 23:55:06 +0200, Volker wrote: I have never succeeded in getting TB to display winmail.dat files. I always have to use an external program to display them. So although it works for some people, there must be something that prevents it working in some installations. TB4 extracts winmail.dat/message.att automatically, but alas there is no way to know if was program successful or not If You have such file in a message and there is a text in body or other attachment available, TB successfully extracted TNEF file. I have emails where the contents of the winmail.dat file are different from the contents of the email itself. The email is a text body part and it is shown in TB. The content of the winmail.dat file is not shown. However, the winmail.dat file also has an attachment within it, and this attachment IS shown as an attachment to the email. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current beta is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 at 21:52:16 +0100, Volker wrote: But there are some reasons, why I do not want to use the RTV, e.g.: - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6937 - For the solution, which Francis mentioned, graphical icons for smileys in RTV have to enabled, but I *hate* these ones. ;-) So do I, so I renamed the directory with the default images. Problem solved in a way that I don't find onerous. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.11.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: storing new data entities
This is OT for TBBETA, so I have copied it to TBUDL and TBOT too. On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 at 11:21:47 +0100, Volker wrote: I have found that it's relatively easy to set up macros to use the Memo field to hold all sorts of useful information like that. Hey, that sounds good to me! :-) For instance I use the following structure in a Memo field: akaJoe/aka closingKind regards/closing closingnameJack Black/closingname receiptsread delivery/receipts ccjsm...@yahoo.com/cc bcctrevor.tur...@company.com.au/bcc How would such a macro look like? – Thanks in advance. As Miguel suggested, it relies on regex. So perhaps relatively easy depends upon your desire to play around with regex! The basic macro is very similar to the one that Maurice showed in mid:1974229872.20090304125...@hypercube.demon.nl The macro I use to extract the information from the memo field is [ Macro: Get_Memo_Attribute ] %Rem=' Usage: attribute value=%QInclude(Get_Memo_Attribute,Tag,Default_Value) This will return the value from a line in the address book memo field that looks like this: tagvalue/tag Or the Default_Value if no such line exists '%- %If:'%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^%_1%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo'='':'%_2'%- :'%If:+%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^(%_1/)%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo+++:++%- :+%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^(?:%_1)(.*?)(?:/%_1)%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo+'%- [ End Macro ] I use this in a set of more complex macros that specify what information to retrieve (by identifying the tag) and, if necessary, identifying a default value so that I can deal with the case of no value being set. The main complexity is that I have created macros that cater for a list of multiple recipients. The macros will parse the list of recipients and extract the attribute from each recipient's memo field and then take action depending upon how many recipients have a value in the attribute, how many different values there are, etc. For instance, if one of the multiple recipients has a read or delivery receipt set, it is applied to the message using this macro which recursively processes each address in the recipient list. [ Macro: SetReceipts ] %REM=^%- Set read or delivery receipt notification flags if the recipient's addressbook memo entry contains an attribute with the tag receipts with the value read or delivery respectively ^%- %- %REM=%- %_SR_Text stores the original list of recipients %_SR_Temp stores the list of recipients yet to be processed %_RR_Flag is set to 1 if read receipt required %_DR_Flag is set to 1 if delivery receipt required %- %- %If:#%_SR_FirstTime#=##%- :#%- %_SR_FirstTime=No%- %_SR_Text=%ToList%- %_SR_Temp=%_SR_Text%- %_RR_Flag=no%- %_DR_Flag=no%- %QInclude(SetReceipts)#%- :#%- %- %REM=*** Parse the Recipient List ***%- %- %If:'%setpattregexp=@%- %regexpmatch=%_SR_Temp'''%- :'%setpattregexp=(?i)^((?:.*?)@(?:.*?))(?:,|;)\s*(.*)?%- %regexpblindmatch=%_SR_Temp,%- %SetHeader(+To+,+%subpatt=1+)%- %_SR_Temp=+%Subpatt=2+%- %- %- %REM= *** Get the receipt attribute *** %- %- %_MemoAttribute=+%QInclude(Get_Memo_Attribute,receipts,)+%- %_RR_Flag=%If:+%SetPattRegExp=(?im).*Read%RegExpMatch=%_MemoAttribute+++:+yes+:+%_RR_Flag+%- %_DR_Flag=%If:+%SetPattRegExp=(?im).*Delivery%RegExpMatch=%_MemoAttribute+++:+yes+:+%_DR_Flag+%- %QInclude(SetReceipts)'%- :'%- %If:%_RR_Flag=yes:%ReadConfirm:%NoReadConfirm%- %If:%_DR_Flag=yes:%RcptConfirm:%NoRcptConfirm%- %SetHeader(To,%_SR_Text)#%- [ End Macro ] Other macros I use set the name(s) in the greeting at the top of the message, choose the sig used at the end of the message, allow me to automatically add CC or BCC addresses, etc -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: storing new data entities (was: Re: Reply to HTML Mail is HTML not Text)
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 at 18:29:26 +0100, Roelof wrote: RO | %ReplyTo=%ABToBusZIP%- TF But why oh why did you choose the ZIP code of the recipient's TF Business address? I don't use any business addresses in my address book and I use this kind of constructs often and I prefer to use different fields for different functions, so my templates don't bite one another. I have found that it's relatively easy to set up macros to use the Memo field to hold all sorts of useful information like that. For instance I use the following structure in a Memo field: akaJoe/aka closingKind regards/closing closingnameJack Black/closingname receiptsread delivery/receipts ccjsm...@yahoo.com/cc bcctrevor.tur...@company.com.au/bcc to say: * Use Joe as the person's name in the email (instead of Joseph which is in the address book FName) * sign off the email with Kind regards Jack Black * set read and delivery receipts * automatically include Joe's personal (Yahoo) address in the CC and my partner Trevor Turner in the BCC It would be simple to include a new tag like busaddr to mark the business address and use that in your templates. That way you can define as many special data entities as you want, store them all in a single place and not risk mixing functions up. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing AV re resource leaks
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 at 08:20:20 +0200, Roger wrote: If I shut down my computer with TB running I get the attached AV. Can anyone confirm this behaviour? I have certainly had similar messages, particularly after leaving TB running for a long time. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search for Folder named XYZ not possible
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 at 21:24:37 +0100, Jens wrote: Another Problem with the Quick Search i found out is: It does not fetch down into Subfolders only maxdepth=1 even not, if the tree is open to view. Here it goes down to a depth of 3 subfolders (which is the most I have). -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Double Click on Header E-Mail Adresse failed
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 at 14:03:37 +0100, Jens wrote: if i double click on the E-Mail Adresse in Headers, i used to get the Adress in the Adressbook. Now this fails and the second double click makes it. I have to click once to change the focus to the header, and then a double-click will activate it as required. This has been the case for a lng time (no idea how long though). -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the Subject Line
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 at 20:22:19 +0100, MAU wrote: What it does is: It exports the currently selected message to a .MSG file which is then opened in Notepad for editing. Once editing is completed and I save changes and exit Notepad, the edited message is imported into Inbox. If you export as a Unix mailbox it retains the date received as well which, as I recall, the .MSG file doesn't. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Double Click on Header E-Mail Adresse failed
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 at 22:57:37 +0100, Jens wrote: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 at 21:53, Robin Anson wrote: I have to click once to change the focus to the header, and then a double-click will activate it as required. This has been the case for a lng time (no idea how long though). If i have the Message opened in Detailed View, i can click directly double to the Headers and it works... Ha! You are quite right. I just always do it in the preview pane. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: resolve the issue of empty folders after index conversion
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 at 15:56:41 +0100, MAU wrote: BTW, we are also thinking about renaming a TBI file to a file with BAK extension rather than deleting it. What do you think about it? .BAK only may be misleading. How about .TBI.BAK or .TBI.OLD? Or perhaps TBI.v4-x-y -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Resource leak when closing TB
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 at 12:21:02 +0100, Jernej wrote: Yesterday when I closed The Bat, I got the following message after it finished compressing folders: --- Application Error --- Exception ERandHandleLeak in module thebat.exe at 002B29D8. Resource leak: 1 instance(s) of RandHandle left. --- OK --- Similar problem here today, with the following error message --- Application Error --- Exception EThreadListLeak in module thebat.exe at 0006A448. Resource leak: 130 instance(s) of TInterfaceList left Caller addresses listed below: 0012FD5C 0012E70C 0012E5DC 0012E45C 0012E3EC 0012E35C 0012E2BC 0012E20C 0012E1FC 0012E15C 0012E0AC 0012E03C 0012DF9C 0012DF5C 0012DF1C 0012DEFC 0012DEBC 0012DE7C 0012DE4C 0012DE1C 0012DDDC 0012DD7C 0012DD2C 0012DCFC 0012F75C 0012F58C 0012F58C 0012F58C 0012F58C 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F3E8 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F518 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F350 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F3E8 0012F3E8 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 0012F3E8 0012F480 0012F480 0012F480 --- OK --- -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All accounts polling at start up
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 at 10:46:48 +0100, MAU wrote: Hello Robin, About one month I closed a BT report about this problem because I had not seen it for quite some time (months). But I have just re-opened so you can add a note about it. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6351 For what it's worth, I have added my 2 bobs worth. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing v4.1.5
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 at 09:07:21 +1100, I wrote: I downloaded the latest version from the Ritlabs download page, v 4.1.5 and installed it over my v 4.0.38. It seemed to install correctly, and it correctly updated 4 of my 5 accounts. However one account seemed to have lost all the old mails and only have the ones downloaded with this latest version. Each time I started TB! I also got an error message saying something like it had found old index files and that this seemed to indicated an older version had been run since the new version had been installed. I'm afraid I can't remember the exact wording. I have now downloaded and installed v4.1.7, and this problem did not happen again. It seems to have installed successfully. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing v4.1.5 - Correction
Maxim On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 at 14:11:32 +0200, Maxim wrote: Hello Robin, Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 8:44:02, you wrote: However, when I looked at the folders in the affected account, I noticed that the *only* folders affected were three that had received mail as v4.1.5 started up for the first time. Do you mean that if an account have an option to receive mail at startup, the index conversion doesn't go properly and the messages are lost? I don't have any account set to receive mail at startup, but often (about 1 in 5 startups) all my POP accounts will connect to the POP server immediately upon startup. This has been a problem for a long time - since the first v3 I think. When I did the conversion, all 4 of my POP accounts connected to their respective POP servers, but the problem only appeared in one of these accounts. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.38 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing v4.1.5
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 at 14:00:45 +0200, Maxim wrote: Hello Robin, Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 1:46:50, you wrote: I had 4.0.38 installed - the last public release version. What verion was installed there before 4.0.38? I think it was 4.0.34 - the previous public release version. Did you install any beta before 4.0.38? No, I haven't installed any beta versions in this development cycle, i.e. since the first v 4.0, perhaps even since before an earlier v3.x release. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.38 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing v4.1.5
Maxim On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 at 06:58:05 +1100, I wrote: I had 4.0.38 installed - the last public release version. What verion was installed there before 4.0.38? I think it was 4.0.34 - the previous public release version. I have now got access to my previous installation files so I can correct that previous statement - it was v4.0.28.3, and prior to that v4.0.24 Did you install any beta before 4.0.38? No, I haven't installed any beta versions in this development cycle, i.e. since the first v 4.0, perhaps even since before an earlier v3.x release. The only beta I have ever installed was v2.12.03. At least, I think that was a beta release. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.38 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem installing v4.1.5
TBBETAs, I downloaded the latest version from the Ritlabs download page, v 4.1.5 and installed it over my v 4.0.38. It seemed to install correctly, and it correctly updated 4 of my 5 accounts. However one account seemed to have lost all the old mails and only have the ones downloaded with this latest version. Each time I started TB! I also got an error message saying something like it had found old index files and that this seemed to indicated an older version had been run since the new version had been installed. I'm afraid I can't remember the exact wording. Fortunately I had done a backup before installing the new version and was able to restore my previous set of data and version 4.0.38. Anyone got any ideas what went wrong?? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.38 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.5.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing v4.1.5
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 at 01:27:29 +0200, Maxim wrote: However one account seemed to have lost all the old mails and only have the ones downloaded with this latest version. Did you install any beta version since 4.0.34? I had 4.0.38 installed - the last public release version. Was it POP3 or IMAP account where the messages were lost? It was a POP account. My IMAP account seemed to be updated fine. Did you use OTFE? Do you use password protection for account or account prompt at The Bat! startup? No, no and no. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.38 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.5.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem installing v4.1.5 - Correction
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 at 09:07:21 +1100, I wrote: TBBETAs, I downloaded the latest version from the Ritlabs download page, v 4.1.5 and installed it over my v 4.0.38. It seemed to install correctly, and it correctly updated 4 of my 5 accounts. However one account seemed to have lost all the old mails and only have the ones downloaded with this latest version. I have just gone through the data after its conversion by v 4.1.5 and noted that the above statement is not exactly correct. The problem I experienced is restricted to one account (as I stated). As I noted in a reply to Maxim, this is POP account, I am not using OFTE, and there is no password on that account. Only one of my accounts is password protected. That account is used as an archive and the password protection prevents it being scanned at start up time. However, when I looked at the folders in the affected account, I noticed that the *only* folders affected were three that had received mail as v4.1.5 started up for the first time. These were the inbox, and 2 TB! mailing list folders that had incoming emails automatically filtered into them. All the other folders appear to be intact. One of the other POP accounts also received email when v4.1.5 started up for the first time, but it *didn't* have all the previous emails deleted. I also noted that in several folders across more than one account an occasional email was incorrectly noted as being unread. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.38 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.1.5.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Marking text with Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow begins in position where cursor was placed by mouse previously
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 at 15:38:27 +0200, Marek wrote: this is some versions old bug and today I was finally able to find conditions to fully reproduce it. Write some text in Microed editor, click to this text, write additional text and hit Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow - as You can see, TB marks text beginning position where cursor was placed by mouse, not from current cursor position. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7265 Confirmed here in v 4.0.34 -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.34 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.34.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 at 16:21:23 -0400, Maggie wrote: Hi Jens, On Monday, October 06, 2008 at 3:09:55 PM you wrote: JF Will they guide me to Hogwart? :) JF I found no hidden Info, Hints, Magics in the Headers... That's because it's written in invisible ink... Of course, so if I want to read it I should reveal the text by heating my screen gently with a blow torch or by ironing it for a few minutes on a low setting? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.34 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.34.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Check mail at startup?
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 at 08:29:04 -0400, Steven wrote: It looks to me like The Bat! is no longer respecting my setting for Check mailbox at start-up (which I have UNCHECKED). TB always gets an error if it checks at start up, because I use POPfile, which typically starts after TB. Until recently, this always worked fine, but this morning after a reboot, I noticed a FETCH error within a few second of TB starting. I have had this problem for some years with many versions of TB! I have set TB! to never check at start up, but occasionally it does so. The problem seems less frequent with v4 than it was with v3. I have never been able to resolve the problem. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.34 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.34.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.26.0 View Mode
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 at 21:29:50 -0400, Richard wrote: M Maybe a naive question but, what is your setting for View/Global View M Mode? Don't know why it would be a naive question. Generic mode is the Global View Mode. Isn't that the problem? If you set Global View Mode to No View Mode does it fix the issue? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.26.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: First line disappearing
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 at 10:37:17 +0400, Eugene wrote: Hi, Try to repeat: 1. Start writing a new message. 2. Remove everything in the body of the message. 3. Type a few characters and press the Down arrow. In my case the vertical scroll bar appears and the first line gets hidden in spite of plenty of space below it. And I think this is wrong. Any confirmation? Confirmed -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.20 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 at 10:30:26 -0400, Vili wrote: I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of the mail... I see the same problem. If I export the file to unix mailbox, edit the HTML to replace all references to Estrangelo Edessa with Arial, it displays fine. It seems to be a problem with the missing font. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.20 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ToolBars
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 at 06:15:14 +0200, Jay wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Art, I regret to say that it is not completely fixed in 4.0.18.2. I keep my Search toolbar on the same line with the Menu toolbar. After moving it (intentionally or accidentally), I cannot get it back next to the Menu toolbar in 4.0.18.2. So I am hanging on to my 4.0.14.2/3. By the way, this might not be such a problem if there were some way to lock the toolbars. As things stand now, it is easy to move the toolbars by mistake. That is actually how I first noticed this problem. Try this, it worked for me. Firstly go to View-Window Split Mode and put the screen into Vertical Split. Then put the menu and search toolbars above the account tree window, and the button bars (standard and configuration toolbars) above the message list window. Now the Window Split Mode back to your preferred configuration and you _should_ find it looks the way you want it to. Of course, YMMV. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.18 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.18.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ToolBars
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 at 13:52:37 -0400, Vili wrote: JW On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The toolbar locations appear not be positioning correctly. On 4.0.14.3 it works fine ie. you can position/snap the tool bars correctly. From 4.0.14.4 and on you cannot and they will only snap into the message list pane, or the folder list pane; this means that they cannot go across the full width of the Program Window. To fix my toolbars, I had to run 4.0.14.3 and reposition them, and then move back to running 4.0.14.7. JW Confirmed in 4.0.18.1. Art's workaround - reverting to 4.0.14.3 - also JW confirmed. JW This is a bug... and a constantly annoying one at that (if you don't JW know or cannot use Art's workaround). I can still move my tool-bars here. I've just tried it again now. :-( Try to move the Menu from it's original place. Can you put it back where it belongs? I did manage it, but it was a pain, and required lots of trial and error. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.18 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.18.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.18: Two TB! entries in Task Manager
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 at 07:24:53 +1100, Ian wrote: I have two entries for The Bat! in the task manager under Tasks. There is only one entires under Processes. Is that normal? MM known and reported for Vista, I can not confirm for XP Confirmed here for XP. Not evident here though. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.18 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.18: Two TB! entries in Task Manager
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 at 13:49:37 +1100, Robin wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 at 07:24:53 +1100, Ian wrote: I have two entries for The Bat! in the task manager under Tasks. There is only one entires under Processes. Is that normal? MM known and reported for Vista, I can not confirm for XP Confirmed here for XP. Not evident here though. Opps, my mistake, I just reread the problem. I DO have two entries under Applications and one under Processes. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.18 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What happened to multi select / F4?
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 at 18:22:52 -0500, Rick wrote: My small oder Newsletter program doesn't work under Vista well, so I thought, I could easily use TB for it, 'cause in the Help is a 'tutorial' for mass mailings. Wow, that's far to meagre. It's ment for sending everytime the same mail to a group of people, I want once a month sending a new newsletter. Then there's nothing helpfull like some wizard, as f.i. with the creating of a new account. Making new quick No you didn't really, that's just what was in my clipboard! Either my v4.0.14 works differently to your v4.0.16.1 or there is something outside the program that is affecting this. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What happened to multi select / F4?
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 at 13:40:56 -0600, Stuart wrote: Hello Rick, RG I don't know when it disappeared but you can no longer select RG multiple different lines, hit F4 and have them quoted in a new message When using PTV and CTRL select I can select multiple areas and use F4 to reply. Does not work in RTV. H'mm I'd never tried selecting multiple areas like that, but you are correct. Interestingly, if I don't select anything and just press F4 TB inserts the contents of my clipboard! That could be either be dangerous or a powerful tool. Not sure which. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.16.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What happened to multi select / F4?
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 at 23:46:08 +0100, Marek wrote: Hello all, Saturday, March 8, 2008, Robin Anson wrote: Interestingly, if I don't select anything and just press F4 TB inserts the contents of my clipboard! That could be either be dangerous or a powerful tool. Not sure which. by default, F4 insert selected text to reply, not clipboard. It works here as it should. Yes, but if you have not selected /any/ text ... I get the clipboard pasted in my reply. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.16.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain Text
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 at 22:45:10 -0600, Bill wrote: I usually read with Micro-Ed in rich text. I have a shortcut to switch between this and plain text. With these recent version of TB, plain text eliminates smileys, as before, but keeps proportional font. The correct behavior is to switch to non-proportion font when switching to plain text. Something appears to be broken. There was a similar question on TBUDL a couple of days ago, and in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez answered: ,- | New in v4 is that we don't have seperate viewers from plaintext and | richtext any more, but we have one viewer which can display all. The | viewer has been completely rewritten and thoroughly beta-tested. | However, the idea of different fonts is now implemented differently | from before: | | In order to display different fonts for different messages, you can | define different profiles. Go to | | Options / Preferences / Viewer/Editor / Message Viewer/Editor | | At the top of this window you see Profile and a drop-down box which | shows only Default now. You set the fonts at the bottom for the | different parts of the mail, as you used to do with the richtext | viewer. My default profile has the same font which I used to have in | my plaintext viewer before, and I set it for all parts of the message. | | Next to Default, click on New. You can now define another profile | with a different font, and with different fonts or colours for | message text, signature text, and so on. | | When vieweing a message, you can easily switch between viewer | profiles by right-clicking within the message body. `- -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
