Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Howdy! Вы писали 05 октября 2023 г., 14:10:32: > On Thursday, October 5, 2023, 12:20:20, Георгий, Белрус wrote: >> This is wrong position. This is not an ugly Microsoft/Apple or dirty Adobe >> (that can kill Macromedia and then flash only because Apple says to them). >> Just html-viewer can't be a reason. And if ugly monopolies of shit-Chromium >> can kill Win7 support then needs to have some another html-viewer like in v8 >> TB! and shut off that chromium-shit for Win7 users. > If you're using end-of-life operating systems, you have to accept that at > some point you'll have to keep using old programs, too. > Writing a HTML viewer is far from trivial, and there's a good reason that The > Bat switched from internal viewer to CEF (though I'd still prefer if Edge > WebView2 was used instead, since that gets security updates from the OS, so a > new TB release wouldn't be needed due to CVE-2023-4863). Internal viewer is alive. I don't see any reasons to block new viewer for Win7 users and using old. For receiving new versions and for "old users". Just tell it this to users who's intalling updates of TB into old OS. Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
On Thursday, October 5, 2023, 12:20:20, Георгий, Белрус wrote: > This is wrong position. This is not an ugly Microsoft/Apple or dirty Adobe > (that can kill Macromedia and then flash only because Apple says to them). > Just html-viewer can't be a reason. And if ugly monopolies of shit-Chromium > can kill Win7 support then needs to have some another html-viewer like in v8 > TB! and shut off that chromium-shit for Win7 users. If you're using end-of-life operating systems, you have to accept that at some point you'll have to keep using old programs, too. Writing a HTML viewer is far from trivial, and there's a good reason that The Bat switched from internal viewer to CEF (though I'd still prefer if Edge WebView2 was used instead, since that gets security updates from the OS, so a new TB release wouldn't be needed due to CVE-2023-4863). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The more campaigning, the better. -- O'Brien's First Law of Politics TheBat! Version 10.5.0 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Howdy! > Thursday, October 5, 2023, 3:56:43 AM, you wrote: >>> Вы писали 04 октября 2023 г., 19:38:13: Hello The, BUG: Installer does not warn about incompatible OS Windows 7 And you need to update your Requirements page at https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php#windows https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#windows >>> You are not alone: >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/auth-forums/forum3/topic16158/message55642/?result=reply#message55642 >>> Hey, RitLabs! Is is true and Win7 isn't compatible for 10.5 or this is a >>> bug? >> RitLabs isn't a big brother and ugly monopolies, this is private >> company. I do think you need to have alternative for an old users >> with old OS to have new versions. What about some alternative >> html-viewers that don't care about Win7 with killing CEF installation for an >> old PC's? > The issue is being able to take advantage of new tech. There must come a > point where it is no longer > practical to support older os's. Some software providers have put out a last > version of their products for old os's that will > never be updated again. This is wrong position. This is not an ugly Microsoft/Apple or dirty Adobe (that can kill Macromedia and then flash only because Apple says to them). Just html-viewer can't be a reason. And if ugly monopolies of shit-Chromium can kill Win7 support then needs to have some another html-viewer like in v8 TB! and shut off that chromium-shit for Win7 users. As we know, in the future we will see TB for android, may be for linux too. Why all of that new and old OS'es won't be supported just because some idiots and bastards from monopolies decide that? Let them all fire in hell. This is RitLabs, not a some ugly vendors. Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Hello Белрус, Thursday, October 5, 2023, 3:56:43 AM, you wrote: > Howdy! > Вы писали 05 октября 2023 г., 10:19:09: >> Howdy! >> Вы писали 04 октября 2023 г., 19:38:13: >>> Hello The, >>> BUG: >>> >>> Installer does not warn about incompatible OS Windows 7 >>> And you need to update your Requirements page at >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php#windows >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#windows >> You are not alone: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/auth-forums/forum3/topic16158/message55642/?result=reply#message55642 >> Hey, RitLabs! Is is true and Win7 isn't compatible for 10.5 or this is a >> bug? > RitLabs isn't a big brother and ugly monopolies, this is private > company. I do think you need to have alternative for an old users > with old OS to have new versions. What about some alternative > html-viewers that don't care about Win7 with killing CEF installation for an > old PC's? The issue is being able to take advantage of new tech. There must come a point where it is no longer practical to support older os's. Some software providers have put out a last version of their products for old os's that will never be updated again. > Best Regards, George Salnik > RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator > > 'Using TBBETA' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best regards, Gleason 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Howdy! Вы писали 05 октября 2023 г., 10:19:09: > Howdy! > Вы писали 04 октября 2023 г., 19:38:13: >> Hello The, >> BUG: >> >> Installer does not warn about incompatible OS Windows 7 >> And you need to update your Requirements page at >> https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php#windows >> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#windows > You are not alone: > https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/auth-forums/forum3/topic16158/message55642/?result=reply#message55642 > Hey, RitLabs! Is is true and Win7 isn't compatible for 10.5 or this is a bug? RitLabs isn't a big brother and ugly monopolies, this is private company. I do think you need to have alternative for an old users with old OS to have new versions. What about some alternative html-viewers that don't care about Win7 with killing CEF installation for an old PC's? Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Howdy! Вы писали 04 октября 2023 г., 19:38:13: > Hello The, > BUG: > > Installer does not warn about incompatible OS Windows 7 > And you need to update your Requirements page at > https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php#windows > https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#windows You are not alone: https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/auth-forums/forum3/topic16158/message55642/?result=reply#message55642 Hey, RitLabs! Is is true and Win7 isn't compatible for 10.5 or this is a bug? Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Hello The, On Wed, 4 Oct 2023, at 12:36:10 [GMT +0300] (which was 11:36 where I live) Alexander wrote: > Versions with the auto-update feature: > 32-bit https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_32_10-5.msi > 64-bit https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_10-5.msi > … > Thank you for your input! BUG: Installer does not warn about incompatible OS Windows 7 And you need to update your Requirements page at https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php#windows https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#windows -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 10.5.0 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22621 ) pgpfBhH7yHZ1x.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
