Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-03-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:46:29 +0100 GMT (01/03/2008, 01:46 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M Any confirmations/agreements?

 Behavior is confirmed as you describe.

 Confirmation and support

M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6873

 Not confirmed in 4.0.14.9: I can click with the mouse wherever I want
 and type there. See below my sig. Maybe they fixed it silently.

M Even several lines below your signature (actually below the last lines
M generated by your template, which could be blanks)? Not here, I have 
M just tried with 4.0.14.9.

I'm not getting the gist of the problem, then. The message ends where
it ends. Yes, I need to add more blank lines below the sig if I want
to add something beyond the end. But why is it a bug?

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-03-01 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 But why is it a bug?

Did you read the first message of this thread  where I wrote:

,- [  ]
| With previous editor (i.e. in 3.99.29) I could position the cursor
| anywhere, including any number of lines below the last line already
| written (whether by a template or myself.). But with the new editor, if
| I want to do the same, I have to position the cursor at the and of last
| line and then hit enter for the number of 'blank lines' that I want to
| include below the last one already written.
`-

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-03-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:35:29 +0100 GMT (01/03/2008, 21:35 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 But why is it a bug?

M Did you read the first message of this thread  where I wrote:

I did read it.

M ,- [  ]
M | With previous editor (i.e. in 3.99.29) I could position the cursor
M | anywhere, including any number of lines below the last line already
M | written (whether by a template or myself.). But with the new editor, if
M | I want to do the same, I have to position the cursor at the and of last
M | line and then hit enter for the number of 'blank lines' that I want to
M | include below the last one already written.
M `-

The behaviour has been changed, granted. I don't consider it a bug,
it makes sense to me. I always wondered why there never was an end to
a message.

Anyway, it doesn't matter to me. I hardly ever add something under my
sig.

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-03-01 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Thomas Fernandez« · 2008-03-01 · 16:15 h (CET)]

Moin, Thomas!

 But why is it a bug?

 ,- [  ]
 | With previous editor (i.e. in 3.99.29) I could position the cursor
 | anywhere, including any number of lines below the last line already
 | written (whether by a template or myself.). But with the new editor, if
 | I want to do the same, I have to position the cursor at the and of last
 | line and then hit enter for the number of 'blank lines' that I want to
 | include below the last one already written.
 `-

 The behaviour has been changed, granted. I don't consider it a bug,
 it makes sense to me. I always wondered why there never was an end to
 a message.

cynicism

Hey, man! It has worked always the other way and that's it!
Everything that behaves not like in older versions is definitely a
bug! — So if you change something, please make it optional!

/cynicism

SCNR ;-)

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:39:46 +0100 GMT (29/02/2008, 01:39 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:



M Hello Rick,

M Any confirmations/agreements?

 Behavior is confirmed as you describe.

 Confirmation and support

M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6873



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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:39:46 +0100 GMT (29/02/2008, 01:39 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M Any confirmations/agreements?

 Behavior is confirmed as you describe.

 Confirmation and support

M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6873

Not confirmed in 4.0.14.9: I can click with the mouse wherever I want
and type there. See below my sig. Maybe they fixed it silently.

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-29 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

M Any confirmations/agreements?

 Behavior is confirmed as you describe.

 Confirmation and support

M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6873

 Not confirmed in 4.0.14.9: I can click with the mouse wherever I want
 and type there. See below my sig. Maybe they fixed it silently.

Even several lines below your signature (actually below the last lines 
generated by your template, which could be blanks)? Not here, I have 
just tried with 4.0.14.9.

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4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-28 Thread MAU
Hello all,

With the advent of the new MicroEd the new 'Free caret positioning' 
option was introduced. This is not bad, I usually never complain about 
/optional/ configuration settings.

However, I expected free caret to behave exactly as it did before, when 
it was not optional, but unfortunately it doesn't.

With previous editor (i.e. in 3.99.29) I could position the cursor
anywhere, including any number of lines *below* the last line already
written (whether by a template or myself.). But with the new editor, if
I want to do the same, I have to position the cursor at the and of last
line and then hit enter for the number of 'blank lines' that I want to
include below the last one already written.

I don't know if this is a bug or WAD, but I really think the previous
behaviour was much more convenient, at least for me, and something to be
expected from a 'free caret positioning' (free cursor positioning)
option.

Any confirmations/agreements?

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-28 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello MAU,
  A reminder of what MAU typed on:
  Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 13:50:20 GMT +0100

M I don't know if this is a bug or WAD, but I really think the previous
M behaviour was much more convenient, at least for me, and something to be
M expected from a 'free caret positioning' (free cursor positioning)
M option.

M Any confirmations/agreements?

Behavior is confirmed as you describe.

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-28 Thread Rick Grunwald
 Hello MAU,
   A reminder of what MAU typed on:
   Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 13:50:20 GMT +0100

M I don't know if this is a bug or WAD, but I really think the previous
M behaviour was much more convenient, at least for me, and something to be
M expected from a 'free caret positioning' (free cursor positioning)
M option.

M Any confirmations/agreements?

 Behavior is confirmed as you describe.

Confirmation and support

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-28 Thread MAU
Hello Rick,

M Any confirmations/agreements?

 Behavior is confirmed as you describe.

 Confirmation and support

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6873

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-28 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello MAU,

M With previous editor (i.e. in 3.99.29) I could position the cursor
M anywhere, including any number of lines *below* the last line already
M written (whether by a template or myself.)

Actually, this is only true for positioning using the mouse. If you
move caret with navigation keys, the caret will be moved beyond the
EOF.


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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-28 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan,

M With previous editor (i.e. in 3.99.29) I could position the cursor
M anywhere, including any number of lines below the last line already
M written (whether by a template or myself.)

 Actually, this is only true for positioning using the mouse. If you
 move caret with navigation keys, the caret will be moved beyond the
 EOF.

being mouse oriented as I am I must admit I had not tried navigation
keys. However, if it works with nav keys (which is equivalent to hitting
enter at least in the number of keystrokes needed, I don't see why it
shouldn't work with mouse

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-28 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello MAU,

M being mouse oriented as I am I must admit I had not tried navigation
M keys. However, if it works with nav keys (which is equivalent to hitting
M enter at least in the number of keystrokes needed, I don't see why it
M shouldn't work with mouse

I don't see either, just added my $0.02 :-)

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

2008-02-28 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan,

M being mouse oriented as I am I must admit I had not tried navigation
M keys. However, if it works with nav keys (which is equivalent to hitting
M enter at least in the number of keystrokes needed, I don't see why it
M shouldn't work with mouse

 I don't see either, just added my $0.02 :-)

Come on, don't be a scrooge. $0.02 is not even a tenth of the price of 
a beer ;)

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