Re: Common folders - making them better
@ 02:18:11 +0100 [ Sun, 2 Dec 2001], Peter Meyns [PM] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... PM As Dwight said, it's a trash folder for mails from the common PM folders. So TB! regards common folders like an extra account with PM its own trash bin. I think common folders are useful for storing PM messages from different accounts centrally. The daily work will PM still be done from within the accounts. So you are saying that these common folders should be like virtual folders? ... In that the messages within the common folders are still linked to the accounts from whence they came? While using common folders for the first few days, I never deleted messages from any of them or replied to messages within any of them. I did hit the reply button on a few to see how it would be handled and the default account for mailto: URLs was the account associated with the message upon checking the status line in the editor window of the reply message. This would have been a good working solution. -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/14 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Common folders - making them better
On 2 Dec 2001, 6:43:47 AM, Allie C Martin wrote: While using common folders for the first few days, I never deleted messages from any of them or replied to messages within any of them. I did hit the reply button on a few to see how it would be handled and the default account for mailto: URLs was the account associated with the message upon checking the status line in the editor window of the reply message. This would have been a good working solution. That pretty much has to be the way it handles which account it uses to send replies. This is important for mailing list replies, since if it used a different account for replies many would bounce because sender would not be a subscriber. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Common folders - making them better
@ 07:17:21 -0600 [ Sun, 2 Dec 2001], Dwight A Corrin [DAC] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... While using common folders for the first few days, I never deleted messages from any of them or replied to messages within any of them. I did hit the reply button on a few to see how it would be handled and the default account for mailto: URLs was the account associated with the message upon checking the status line in the editor window of the reply message. This would have been a good working solution. DAC That pretty much has to be the way it handles which account it DAC uses to send replies. This is important for mailing list replies, DAC since if it used a different account for replies many would DAC bounce because sender would not be a subscriber. This problem can easily be fixed with address book templates and it's these address book templates that allow you to store discussion list *anywhere* without worrying about incorrect sender addressing upon replying. Of course SMTP server limitations may create another set of problems with sending mail via any account. But I'll always encourage those who use multiple remote POP accounts and don't have access to a remote SMTP server that readily relays messages, to run their own local SMTP server. It greatly enhances your flexibility. -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/14 (*) OS: Win2K SP 2] __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Common folders - making them better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alastair! On 30 Nov 2001 at 22:16:49 you wrote: Regarding sending, there are two ways to do this: (i) force the user to be inside an account when sending; (ii) [much better] have the concept of a default account so that, when the user creates a message when inside the common folders, it appears in the Outbox or Sent folders of that nominated account. (Without this concept, what will send it? ;) No, no. If I use a default account with its specific e-mail address I can use its own Outbox. If I have messages in different accounts to send, it is because different e-mail addresses of mine are used. So a common Outbox does not make much sense. Excellent idea - indeed, why are N Trash folders required for N accounts at the moment? Other than a common Trash folder, which would really be a good thing. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C The greatest end of life is not knowledge but action. (Thomas Henry Huxley) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPAiOEfTo1oA8g8dLEQLDSgCgq+AfT9gJDM445y50QEJagkk0+bUAn1O3 mxOmzrTDDJVWq0ddT9Pm3c+g =ekSz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Common folders - making them better
On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 19:01:52 +0100GMT (which was 19:01 +0100GMT where I live), Dierk Haasis presented us with these thoughts about Common folders - making them better: Dierk, it is easy to select any of your accounts by highlighting the From: line in editor and opening the menu. DH I know, but that isn't the point. Sorry Dierk, then I didn't get your point. You'll get one the first time you delete a complete common folder. ;o) DH Does it actually work as one? That is, does it carry all the deleted DH messages from the accounts? And can the account's folders be deleted, DH too? As Dwight said, it's a trash folder for mails from the common folders. So TB! regards common folders like an extra account with its own trash bin. I think common folders are useful for storing messages from different accounts centrally. The daily work will still be done from within the accounts. Just my 0.02 ... -- Cheers Peter * This message was created using The Bat!, version 1.54 Beta/14, under Windows 98, 4, 10, build 67766222, on a Pentium II machine at 200MHz, 64 MB RAM :-) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Common folders - making them better
In a message dated, Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:09:35 -0600, Dwight A Corrin [DAC] wrote: ... DAC It's difficult to imagine the point of an outbox or a sent folder DAC which cannot send mail. I can see that a common inbox might be an DAC alright idea, but how do things get in it. Interesting. I created my common folders by moving what were formally folders in an account to the common area. I then deleted the account which was basically created only for the said folders. I therefore don't have the redundant folders being mentioned. DAC If they do get in it what happens when one tries to reply to one DAC of them? The account assigned to handle the reply is your default account for mailto: URL's. In fact, the default account handles everything that the common folders may need an accounts services for, such as trash, storing sent mail etc. What I'm having problems with is the folder maintaining its column settings. The use default column settings is a bit confusing in the context of common folders. Is this the default column settings for the associated account? Or is it the default setting for the common folders. I can't really say since one of the folders will not retain the column settings that I assigned it. It keeps reverting to the TB! default when I re-start TB! DAC A common trash folder seems a good idea, and a way to regain DAC screen space IF one could replace all the trash folders in all DAC the accounts with one common trash folder. That, I think, would DAC be a good thing. Then one could just empty one trash folder and DAC compact one trash folder and gain in several ways. I personally prefer a trash folder per account. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/14 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
