Re: 9.2.0.8 - Keyboard shortcuts still don; t work from within an HTML message
Hello Stefan, Saturday, June 27, 2020, 10:16:33 AM, you wrote: > Version 9.2.0.8 RC2 with color groups loading fix is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.8-x32.7z As reported for several previous betas, this - at least for me quite annoying - issue still persists. Now in Mantis: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2043 > I have noticed that yesterday already, can reproduce it now: > 1. have an HTML message > 2a. click into the viewer, press Ctrl+Shift+F5: nothing happens > 2b. Click on the same message in the message list, do the same: reply > dialog comes up > 2c. Click on a text message, click into it, press Ctrl+Shift+F5: reply > dialog comes up > > It seems to me like the HTML viewer "eats" the keyboard events. Can anyone else reproduce it and/or possibly already reported it in the BT? -- Cheers Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz TheBat! 9.2.0.8 (RC2) Pro (x32, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.0.5 - keyboard shortcuts like Ctrl+Shift+F5 don't work from inside the HTML viewer
Hello Stefan, Monday, June 22, 2020, 12:20:21 PM, you wrote: > EXE file only (no CEF binaries): > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.5-x32.7z I have noticed that yesterday already, can reproduce it now: 1. have an HTML message 2a. click into the viewer, press Ctrl+Shift+F5: nothing happens 2b. Click on the same message in the message list, do the same: reply dialog comes up 2c. Click on a text message, click into it, press Ctrl+Shift+F5: reply dialog comes up It seems to me like the HTML viewer "eats" the keyboard events. Can anyone else reproduce it and/or possibly already reported it in the BT? Thank you! -- Cheers Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz TheBat! 9.2.0.5 (BETA) Pro (x32, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Hello TBBETA Members! It seems TB - or my system - has lost it's capability to handle keyboard shortcuts containing more than 3 keys. I assigned 3-key-shortcuts, which work. Alas, as a side effect now my keyboartd layout gets switched every time I use TB's system-wide shortcuts since the only way to get any at all is to assign Shift+Alt to any other key. Anybody an idea what I have to change where to get my 4-key shortcuts back to work? -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection. [Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York Times v. Sullivan] Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Hello Raymund! On Monday, August 16, 2010 at 2:33:35 PM you wrote: I guess that you added a second keyboard layout lately. Not so much lately, it has always been in place. Not unlike my TB system-wide shortcuts [remember, they worked without hitch for years till last week]. I had two reasons to assign 4-key shortcuts: a) to avoid this specific Windows conflict b) to avoid conflicts with other programs in general Hence, I am so unnerved by my set-up not working anymore though I didn't change anything. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request So, this is how liberty dies - with thunderous applause. [George Lucas through Senator Amidala] Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Hello TBBETA Members! I've investigating a bit further; NetVicious idea about TBuser.DEF didn't work out, I deleted it, a new one was created [essentially empty], system-wide shortcuts still showed up and were not re-creatable. But I found something rather curious ... Does anybody notice something about the shortcuts I use: http://screencast.com/t/NGRiODE1Mjgt -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Buss’s Third Law of Human Mating: For every mating adaptation in one sex, there exists at least one co-evolved adaptation in the other sex designed to manipulate and exploit it. Buss’s Fourth Law of Human Mating: For every co-evolved exploitative mating adaptation, there exists at least one co-co-evolved defensive adaptation designed to circumvent being manipulated and exploited. Buss’s Seventh Law of Human Mating: Never reveal your first two laws of mating, lest they be used to manipulate and exploit you. [David Buss] Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Hello TBBETA Members! I've investigating a bit further; NetVicious idea about TBuser.DEF didn't work out, I deleted it, a new one was created [essentially empty], system-wide shortcuts still showed up and were not re-creatable. But I found something rather curious ... Does anybody notice something about the shortcuts I use: http://screencast.com/t/NGRiODE1Mjgt I see that you are duplicating some of the ones the Bat already uses. You have one to create a new message when the Bat already uses control N. Same with Check mail for all accounts alt F2 -- Rick Necrophiliacs need love too! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Hello Rick! On Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 5:15:25 PM you wrote: I see that you are duplicating some of the ones the Bat already uses. You have one to create a new message when the Bat already uses control N. Same with Check mail for all accounts alt F2 That's the difference between system-wide and program-wide. Try Ctrl+n when you are in Word or any other program able to create new files. Can anybody try to create at least one of those shortcuts, I'd be very interested if you can create them at all. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request An elected official owes his constituents more than simple obedience to their desires. He owes them his full intelligence and judgment to make decisions. [Edmund Burke] Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
lunes, 9 ago 2010 at 19:14, it seems you wrote: Did you modified the menus ? No, I didn't. Strange. Ok, You could see in the menus the shortcut you're trying to use? I tried the double assignation and it runs the first menu on the list so it should do something if you have it double-assigned. Try this. Save your TBUSER.DEF in other folder. Delete it from the mail folder with the TB! closed and start another time TB!. It should create the default TBUSER.DEF. Try in this moment the shortcut you want to use. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.61 ALPHA Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.5.1 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Hello NetVicious! On Monday, August 9, 2010 at 5:31:59 PM you wrote: If you're having problems with the assignation of shortcuts you should try to edit the TBUSER.DEF to see if it has some problem. I have now had a look into TBUSER.DEF and didn't find anything out of the ordinary - well, considering I have no idea what to look for, the file looked quite right; it was lacking any evidence of syste,-wide defined shortcuts, while program-wide customised ones are there. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request To physically force your beliefs onto others with violence is not brave, but bullying. Doing so only serves to prove how weak those beliefs are. [Erik von Brunn] Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
sábado, 7 ago 2010 at 11:45, it seems you wrote: I didn't change anything in TB, I haven't ascribed the same shortcuts accidentally in any other program - to the contrary, I deleted a non-identical shortcut in another program. I am even unable to re-assign at least one shortcut [Shift+Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get mail for all accounts]. Any ideas? Did you modified the menus ? I had this problem when I removed some items from the menus. If you remove the item for get mail for all account the shortcut doesn't works until you re-add it and re-assing the shortcut. If you're having problems with the assignation of shortcuts you should try to edit the TBUSER.DEF to see if it has some problem. If you're using OTFE you have a big problem because Ritlabs don't allowed us to save an unencrypted copy of the TBUSER.EEF yet [1]. On this case you need to delete the TBUSER.EEF and start from scratch. [1] https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7794 -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.59 ALPHA Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.4.5 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Hello NetVicious! On Monday, August 9, 2010 at 5:31:59 PM you wrote: Did you modified the menus ? No, I didn't. If you're having problems with the assignation of shortcuts you should try to edit the TBUSER.DEF to see if it has some problem. Will have a look; luckily I have not succumbed to my paranoia, hence do not use OTFE. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Humor ist einfach eine komische Art, ernst zu sein.. [Sir Peter Ustinov] Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Hello TBBETA Members! Did anybody else have this happen to him: System-wide keyboard shortcuts defined in TB suddenly do not work anymore. I didn't change anything in TB, I haven't ascribed the same shortcuts accidentally in any other program - to the contrary, I deleted a non-identical shortcut in another program. I am even unable to re-assign at least one shortcut [Shift+Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get mail for all accounts]. Any ideas? -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they've exhausted all the other possibilities. [Sir Winston Churchill] Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4.2.25.1: Auto refresh of virtual folders and keyboard shortcuts broken
Hi all, on Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:16:27 +0100GMT I wrote: PM in the latest Voyager the auto-refresh of virtual folders doesn't work PM any more. In addition, the keyboard shortcuts for refreshing VFs (esc PM or ctrl+R) don't work either. The only way to get a Refresh is the PM right-click menu. PM The keyboard shortcuts for Mark as read or Mark as Junk are also PM broken. I don't know what went wrong then, but it didn't occur again. It seems to be all right now. :) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v4.2.25.1 on a 2GB stick plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, several newsgroups via MyGate Current OS: Windows XP,v.5.1,Build 2600 Current beta is 4.2.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager 4.2.25.1: Auto refresh of virtual folders and keyboard shortcuts broken
Hi all, in the latest Voyager the auto-refresh of virtual folders doesn't work any more. In addition, the keyboard shortcuts for refreshing VFs (esc or ctrl+R) don't work either. The only way to get a Refresh is the right-click menu. The keyboard shortcuts for Mark as read or Mark as Junk are also broken. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v4.2.25.1 on a 2GB stick Current OS: Windows XP, v.5.1,Build 2600 Current beta is 4.2.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard shortcuts: Where?
Hi Tbbeta, I am looking for the editor where I can add/change keyboard shortcuts. The help file says The Shortcut Editor is available in most of The Bat!'s non-modal windows (such as main window, separate message browser, address book, message editor) - you can invoke it by using the View|Edit Shortcuts menu command of any of such window. Well, it's just not there anymore! No such entry in the View menu. Where is it gone? If I use the Menu Navigator to search for shortcuts or keyboard I don't get any results either. -- Best regards, Carsten Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keyboard shortcuts: Where?
Hi Volker, Friday, February 8, 2008, 12:03:03 PM, you wrote: Use the Customiser: Rightclick on a symbol bar - Customise... Cool! -- Best regards, Carsten Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard shortcuts: Where?
·---·-Date---· | QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] | 2008-02-08 | ·---·· [Reply to: »Carsten Guthardt-Schulz« · 2008-02-08 · 11:54 h (CET)] Hello, Carsten! I am looking for the editor where I can add/change keyboard shortcuts. Use the Customiser: Rightclick on a symbol bar - Customise... - Tab Shortcuts - choose entry - doubleclick entry - assign shortcut That's it! :-) Cheers! VA -- [1] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.7 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« - Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard shortcuts missing in menus
Some of the keyboard shorcuts are missing from the menus although they are working. Specifically Copy move to folder, Flag etc -- Rick The Bat Version 4.0.0.10 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 attachment: menu.jpg Current beta is 4.0.0.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard shortcuts missing in menus
Hello Perry On Monday, January 14, 2008 you wrote: Hi Rick and fellow beta testers, Monday, January 14, 2008, 11:28:13 AM, you wrote: RG Some of the keyboard shorcuts are missing from the menus although they RG are working. Specifically Copy move to folder, Flag etc Confirmed in the Message menu, however in the context menu, the keyboard shortcuts appear normally. See screenshot. Correct here also -- Rick The Bat Version 4.0.0.10 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard shortcuts missing in menus
Hi Rick and fellow beta testers, Monday, January 14, 2008, 11:28:13 AM, you wrote: RG Some of the keyboard shorcuts are missing from the menus although they RG are working. Specifically Copy move to folder, Flag etc Confirmed in the Message menu, however in the context menu, the keyboard shortcuts appear normally. See screenshot. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v4.0.0.10 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2attachment: Context Menu.png Current beta is 4.0.0.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M I also move 'old messages' to a folder in my password protected M Archive account. But I do this automatically by using the M Alternative deletion in the folder Properties. I have many M folders set up this way. I see what you mean. I was not aware of that alternative deletion mode. It's nice... maybe I'll give it a try. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Borg C++: Compiling is futile. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, M I also move 'old messages' to a folder in my password protected M Archive account. But I do this automatically by using the M Alternative deletion in the folder Properties. I have many M folders set up this way. I see what you mean. I was not aware of that alternative deletion mode. It's nice... maybe I'll give it a try. It is certainly one of the many nice features of TB. One further suggestion, if I may, if you decide to use it. With time, and specially if you have many folder, it is easy to forget which folders are set-up for Alternative Deletion. What I do is to assign these folders to a special Archive colour group. This way, aside of seeing these folders (the names) in a different colour in my folder tree while in All tab, I can also select to view the Archive tab with only these folders. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.8 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, I follow TBBeta threads on a folder where I receive everything received from the list and when that thread gets dead I move it to a folder related to the year the message arrived. I also have a folder for TBBeta (I'd assume most people do) and for every mailing list I'm subscribed to. But specially for mailing lists I do use threading by Reference because I find it much easier to follow the conversation the way it has been actually produced (i.e. with the different branches and sub-threads). Also because, when threading by Reference (that I call 'proper threading'), if someone modifies the Subject the thread is not broken. I also move 'old messages' to a folder in my password protected Archive account. But I do this automatically by using the Alternative deletion in the folder Properties. I have many folders set up this way. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Now, if you are threading by Subject (like I am assuming you do), then M you are darn right and Ctrl+V does move the entire group in 3.99.29 and M it doesn't in 4.0.0.7. Yes, I'm threading by subject. You're completely right. M But that is only if you are threading by subject and you select the M 'name of the group'. If you select any actual message in the group, only that M message is moved. M When threading by Reference, like I do in 99.99% of my folders, then M Ctrl+V does only move the first message of the thread (if that's the one M selected), and this is so in 3.99.29 and 4.0.0.x. Ok, point taken. M Now, no matter if threading by Subject or by Reference, if you select M ANY message in a thread (or group) and you use Shift+Ctrl+V, the entire M thread (or group) will be moved. And this was so in 3.99.29 and still is M so in 4.0.0.7. Ok. M With all of this, my opinion is that the behaviour in 3.99.29 (and M previous?) when using Ctrl+V on the name of a group was the buggy one, M and that it is working correctly now. It's just my opinion. I disagree! :) Ritlabs should work some way to have only ONE shortcut to move messages no matter if it was a single message, a subject *group* or a reference *thread*. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias I invented a cordless extension cord. s.w. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. MM no, Ctrl+V moves selected message or messages only, not messages in MM thread! then I must have been using a bug all this time. See my attachments. This is what I expect from the new version. It makes no sense to have a different shortcut to do exactly the same thing. What comes next? A new shortcut for when you select a even number of messages? MM there is entry Thread and functions for working with thread are there. Again, see the screenshots I sent. You see what the context menu show and I assure you that I ALWAYS have used CTRL+V to move both single messages and complete threads. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Don't get mad, get even. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, MM there is entry Thread and functions for working with thread are there. Again, see the screenshots I sent. You see what the context menu show and I assure you that I ALWAYS have used CTRL+V to move both single messages and complete threads. If we all now understand that when Marek talks about threads he's talking about proper threads (threaded by Reference) and that you are talking about subject groups, then neither of you is lying and both your statements are true. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, M With all of this, my opinion is that the behaviour in 3.99.29 (and M previous?) when using Ctrl+V on the name of a group was the buggy one, M and that it is working correctly now. It's just my opinion. I disagree! :) OK, I won't send you to jail for that :) Ritlabs should work some way to have only ONE shortcut to move messages no matter if it was a single message, a subject group or a reference *thread*. Not easy. If you select a single message in a proper thread, even if it is the first one, how can TB know if you want to move the whole thread or just the selected message? By asking with an options dialog? But I am beginning to think you may be right in one way. In the case of subject groups, if you select the group name, then there is no doubt if what you want to do is move a single message (because the group title isn't a message) or the entire group. Similarly to what Windows does when in Explorer you select a file or a folder and use Ctrl+X-Ctrl+V. Anyway, and in case you don't know, dragging the 'group name' of a subject group to a different folder does still move the entire thread (group). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M With all of this, my opinion is that the behaviour in 3.99.29 M (and previous?) when using Ctrl+V on the name of a group was the M buggy one, and that it is working correctly now. It's just my M opinion. I disagree! :) M OK, I won't send you to jail for that :) Good! :) Ritlabs should work some way to have only ONE shortcut to move messages no matter if it was a single message, a subject group or a reference *thread*. M Not easy. If you select a single message in a proper thread, even M if it is the first one, how can TB know if you want to move the M whole thread or just the selected message? By asking with an M options dialog? I don't know what's your definition of thread but lets assume that it a group of messages related by reference, subject, sender or any other in common characteristic. If you select the row that aggregates the thread it should interpret as a move thread. Anything else should be considered as a move message(s). M But I am beginning to think you may be right in one way. In the M case of subject groups, if you select the group name, then M there is no doubt if what you want to do is move a single message M (because the group title isn't a message) or the entire group. M Similarly to what Windows does when in Explorer you select a file M or a folder and use Ctrl+X-Ctrl+V. M Anyway, and in case you don't know, dragging the 'group name' of a M subject group to a different folder does still move the entire M thread (group). Yes it does but it's not as simple as using the shortcut. I would have to open the folder tree prior to move the messages. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Don't you sometimes wish taht there was a solution to ever Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, In another message in this thread you said: N Hi! Here Shift+Ctrl+V shows the move message(s) to folder dialog N correctly. I tested it and it runs perfectly. Maybe but why have to shortcuts to do the same thing? I prefer the one with fewer keys. Call me lazy... And in the message I'm replying to now: M Anyway, and in case you don't know, dragging the 'group name' of a M subject group to a different folder does still move the entire M thread (group). Yes it does but it's not as simple as using the shortcut. I would have to open the folder tree prior to move the messages. Can I ask you something? It's just curiosity but, about how many messages on the average you move per minute? OK, let's make it per hour. And complete threads? As I said, just curious ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Yes it does but it's not as simple as using the shortcut. I would have to open the folder tree prior to move the messages. M Can I ask you something? It's just curiosity but, about how many M messages on the average you move per minute? OK, let's make it per hour. M And complete threads? As I said, just curious ;-) Several time otherwise I wouldn't notice it. I follow TBBeta threads on a folder where I receive everything received from the list and when that thread gets dead I move it to a folder related to the year the message arrived. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias There are three things that come next, uh four. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Remember: No matter where you go; there you are. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. M Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Not in TB 3.99.29 and all previous... I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from my 3.99.29. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 attachment: Thread Move.png Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Goncalo, When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. M Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Not in TB 3.99.29 and all previous... M I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from M my 3.99.29. Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. Another thing that would be nice is to allow TB to fallback to the actual interface. I really don't like the new interface that much. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Show Girl : she's more show than girl.attachment: move_thread.PNG Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for selected message(s), not for threads. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo On Saturday, January 5, 2008 you wrote: In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Goncalo, When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. M Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Not in TB 3.99.29 and all previous... M I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from M my 3.99.29. Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. It's been shiftctrlV to move a thread since I first started using the Bat around version 3.3x -- Rick The Bat Version 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard shortcuts missing in Menus
COSMETIC: The keyboard shortcuts were added to the message context menu but some are still missing from the Message and Specials menus -- Rick The Bat Version 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Goncalo, Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. M Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for M selected message(s), not for threads. Go back to 3.99.29 and try with ctrl+v. It works. Now it doesn't. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias We humans have a streak of barbarism in us... Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from M my 3.99.29. Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. RG It's been shiftctrlV to move a thread since I first started using RG the Bat around version 3.3x Well, that's not what's in the context menu and CTRL+V did exactly the same thing as shft+ctrl+v since threads appeared (probably that's why I didn't knew about that other shortcut). And I using TB since version 2.x. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias You think I care which way you face? O'Brien Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, On 2008-01-05 you wrote: Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. Yes, but two lines above you can see the thread entry in the menu. When you expand it, you'll see that Shift+Ctrl+V is the shortcut to move threads (unless you have redefined it). Look at the screenshot Miguel has posted. -- Regards, Uwe Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, M Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for M selected message(s), not for threads. Go back to 3.99.29 and try with ctrl+v. I just did (see my signature below) and if I select the first message of a thread and hit Ctrl+V it just moves one message, the first one of the thread, which is the one I had selected. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.29 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
sábado, 5 ene 2008 at 10:58, it seems you wrote: Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Hi! Here Shift+Ctrl+V shows the move message(s) to folder dialog correctly. I tested it and it runs perfectly. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello NetVicious, Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Hi! Here Shift+Ctrl+V shows the move message(s) to folder dialog correctly. I tested it and it runs perfectly. Yes, I know. Have you seen the rest of the thread? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : US Hello Goncalo, US On 2008-01-05 you wrote: Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. US Yes, but two lines above you can see the thread entry in the menu. US When you expand it, you'll see that Shift+Ctrl+V is the shortcut to US move threads (unless you have redefined it). Look at the screenshot US Miguel has posted. I didn't -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias If it wasn't so cool out today, it would be warmer. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : N sábado, 5 ene 2008 at 10:58, it seems you wrote: Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? N Hi! Here Shift+Ctrl+V shows the move message(s) to folder dialog N correctly. I tested it and it runs perfectly. Maybe but why have to shortcuts to do the same thing? I prefer the one with fewer keys. Call me lazy... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Real Trekkers work out at the He's Dead Gym. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello all, Saturday, January 5, 2008, Goncalo Farias wrote: Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. no, Ctrl+V moves selected message or messages only, not messages in thread! This is what I expect from the new version. It makes no sense to have a different shortcut to do exactly the same thing. What comes next? A new shortcut for when you select a even number of messages? there is entry Thread and functions for working with thread are there. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for M selected message(s), not for threads. Go back to 3.99.29 and try with ctrl+v. M I just did (see my signature below) and if I select the first message of M a thread and hit Ctrl+V it just moves one message, the first one of the M thread, which is the one I had selected. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Another image to clarify. Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. This is what I expect from the new version. It makes no sense to have a different shortcut to do exactly the same thing. What comes next? A new shortcut for when you select a even number of messages? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Abort, Retry, Ignore, plan a Funeral Service?attachment: move_thread.PNG Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Another image to clarify. Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. I think I know where our mutual misunderstanding comes from. You are 'threading by Subject', aren't you? If so, I have always maintained that it should be called 'grouping by Subject' to avoid misunderstanding and because only threading by Reference display _proper_threads_. Actually, when threading by subject, as I assume you are doing, if you select the first message of the thread (which is actually only the name (subject) of the group) and you hit the Delete key you get the following warning: --- Delete messages --- The selection contains groups. Do you really want to delete them? --- Sí No --- which, as you can see, refers to *groups*. Now, if you are threading by Subject (like I am assuming you do), then you are darn right and Ctrl+V does move the entire group in 3.99.29 and it doesn't in 4.0.0.7. But that is only if you are threading by subject and you select the 'name of the group'. If you select any actual message in the group, only that message is moved. When threading by Reference, like I do in 99.99% of my folders, then Ctrl+V does only move the first message of the thread (if that's the one selected), and this is so in 3.99.29 and 4.0.0.x. Now, no matter if threading by Subject or by Reference, if you select ANY message in a thread (or group) and you use Shift+Ctrl+V, the entire thread (or group) will be moved. And this was so in 3.99.29 and still is so in 4.0.0.7. With all of this, my opinion is that the behaviour in 3.99.29 (and previous?) when using Ctrl+V on the name of a group was the buggy one, and that it is working correctly now. It's just my opinion. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.29 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard Shortcuts
The keyboard shortcuts dialogs seem to be missing from the menus although the keys work. Flags and Parked specifically -- Rick The Bat Version 4.0.0.5 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unkillable bat with no keyboard shortcuts
Howdy Flying Rodent fans, Ok. I hope this isnt just me. Or there is another explanation other than my own stupidity. In .09 my keyboard shortcuts do not work. Not one of them. Then when I try to exit have to kill through task manager. Not a one off... put up with it last night... but it has stayed the same tonight. Have checked my keyboard, it works in other apps, so i can only conclude that it is the bat. Confirmations or suggestions as to options that i havent checked? -- Have Fun, Stan the Almighty! [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.63.08 (Beta) falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM During the chariot scene in Ben Hur, a small red car can be seen in the distance (and Heston's wearing a watch). Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unkillable bat with no keyboard shortcuts
Hello Ben, Ok. I hope this isnt just me. Or there is another explanation other than my own stupidity. In .09 my keyboard shortcuts do not work. Not one of them. Then when I try to exit have to kill through task manager. Not a one off... put up with it last night... but it has stayed the same tonight. Have checked my keyboard, it works in other apps, so i can only conclude that it is the bat. Confirmations or suggestions as to options that i havent checked? Quite strange, I don't have a clue. I see in your signature that you used 3.63.08 to send you post, do your shortcuts work with .08? -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Unkillable bat with no keyboard shortcuts
Howdy MAU, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 7:39:43 PM, MAU wrotened: Ok. I hope this isnt just me. Or there is another explanation other than my own stupidity. In .09 my keyboard shortcuts do not work. Not one of them. Then when I try to exit have to kill through task manager. Not a one off... put up with it last night... but it has stayed the same tonight. Have checked my keyboard, it works in other apps, so i can only conclude that it is the bat. Confirmations or suggestions as to options that i havent checked? M Quite strange, I don't have a clue. I see in your signature that you M used 3.63.08 to send you post, do your shortcuts work with .08? Perfectly. Forgot to mention that I had moved back a beta. But not a one with .09. Strange... Its one of things that doesnt make sense. -- Have Fun, Stan the Almighty! [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.63.08 (Beta) falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM The Guinness Book of Records holds the record for being the book most often stolen from public libraries. Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Unkillable bat with no keyboard shortcuts
Howdy Ben, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:06:25 PM, Ben wrotened: BA Howdy MAU, BA Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 7:39:43 PM, MAU wrotened: Ok. I hope this isnt just me. Or there is another explanation other than my own stupidity. In .09 my keyboard shortcuts do not work. Not one of them. Then when I try to exit have to kill through task manager. Not a one off... put up with it last night... but it has stayed the same tonight. Have checked my keyboard, it works in other apps, so i can only conclude that it is the bat. Confirmations or suggestions as to options that i havent checked? M Quite strange, I don't have a clue. I see in your signature that you M used 3.63.08 to send you post, do your shortcuts work with .08? BA Perfectly. Forgot to mention that I had moved back a beta. But not a BA one with .09. BA Strange... Its one of things that doesnt make sense. Ohh ctrl + enter works... lets see about the rest -- Have Fun, Stan the Almighty! [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM Life is a mixture of proteins and preservatives all trapped into a pale, green, gelatinous goo. Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts
Peter, On 23-09-2005 20:54, you [PM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PM Would be a nice feature. I use a third party program for this, PM PowerPro, which lets you use the keyboard approach to, e.g., PM changing the interface language of The Bat! by the click of a PM button. I meant of the spell checking language... :-) PM Have a look at http://www.ppro.org. I have used PPro for years. Excellent program! -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.61.06 Echo (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~12 POP3, 4 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts
Hello Peter, So are we going to see keyboard shortcuts for the direct selection of a language any time soon? I want to be able to hit Alt+D for Danish and Alt+U for British English. Define a QT for each language you'd like to use with the %LANGUAGE macro and, in the Options tab of each QT, define your preferred shortcut. I've just tried Alt+B for my British English and works fine. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.06 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts
MAU, On 26-09-2005 10:29, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: M Define a QT for each language you'd like to use with the %LANGUAGE M macro and, in the Options tab of each QT, define your preferred M shortcut. I've just tried Alt+B for my British English and works M fine. Thanks, I will try that. But it's still a workaround. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.61.06 Echo (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~12 POP3, 4 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts
Hi Peter, on Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:00:13 +0200GMT (22.09.2005, 15:00 +0200GMT here), you wrote: PF So are we going to see keyboard shortcuts for the direct selection of a PF language any time soon? Would be a nice feature. I use a third party program for this, PowerPro, which lets you use the keyboard approach to, e.g., changing the interface language of The Bat! by the click of a button. Have a look at http://www.ppro.org. I would prefer it from within The Bat! too. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Keyboard shortcuts
Hello beta testers. So are we going to see keyboard shortcuts for the direct selection of a language any time soon? I want to be able to hit Alt+D for Danish and Alt+U for British English. This getting-customization-up-to-speed has been too long IMO. BTW the same is true for the direct selection of colour groups. Also, another new UI bug I will be happy to see gone is the not-scrolling up automatically when all accounts/mails are closed bug mentioned in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4805. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.61.06 Echo (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~12 POP3, 4 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.61.06 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts
Hello Peter, I want to be able to hit Alt+D for Danish and Alt+U for British English. This getting-customization-up-to-speed has been too long IMO. In the meantime use quick templates for that -- Vili The Bat 3.61.06 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.06 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. Can anyone tell me what happened to Edit Shortcuts? I've had so many problems over the past few months that I've never gotten to the shortcuts, and now I cant find them anywhere in the menus. -- Keith Using The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on a 2.4 GHZ Pentium IV with 512 MB. Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts
Dear Keith, @23-Aug-2005, 00:18 -0600 (23-Aug 07:18 UK time) Keith Russell [KR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBBETA: KR Can anyone tell me what happened to Edit Shortcuts? I've had so KR many problems over the past few months that I've never gotten to KR the shortcuts, and now I cant find them anywhere in the menus. They have been usurped by the new king ... Customise All menus and toolbars can now be customised and shortcuts are assigned that way. Sadly, old redefinitions have been completely discarded in the changed method. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgphQztN0Uqyc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts
Thanks a lot for clearing this up, Marck. They have been usurped by the new king ... Customise All menus and toolbars can now be customised and shortcuts are assigned that way. Sadly, old redefinitions have been completely discarded in the changed method. That isn't a big problem for me, because I hadn't redefined much in the past, anyway. Once you'd reminded me, I did remember the discussions of Customize in the distance past--all of which I'd ignored because I wasn't ready at the time. Before I posted my earlier message, I had searched Help, which pointed me to View | Edit Shortcuts, which of course isn't there. Menu Navigator didn't turn up anything for Shortcuts, either. After receiving your message, I searched Menu Navigator for Customise, and still didn't find it. Searching through the menus manually, I did finally find it (not where I expected). Now, after spending most of the morning reading through all the old threads relating to Customise (many of which, of course, are no longer relevant), I'm almost starting to understand how to view and change keyboard shortcuts, although sometimes it works for me and other times it doesn't. Now, I do have a couple more questions: 1. How does one find existing keyboard assignments? I can think of three ways: wading through the Customize dialog, digging into tbuser.def, and just entering a keyboard combination in various contexts to see what happens. None of these seems like a very satisfactory way to accomplish this. 2. Where do I find the shortcuts for expanding and collapsing threads? I don't see them anywhere! -- Keith Russell . Bugs come in through open Windows. Using The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on a 2.4 GHZ Pentium IV with 512 MB. Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts
Dear Keith, @23-Aug-2005, 12:24 -0600 (23-Aug 19:24 UK time) Keith Russell [KR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: KR 1. How does one find existing keyboard assignments? I can think KR of three ways: wading through the Customize dialog, digging into KR tbuser.def, and just entering a keyboard combination in various KR contexts to see what happens. None of these seems like a very KR satisfactory way to accomplish this. They aren't - but I don't know of another way to do it. KR 2. Where do I find the shortcuts for expanding and collapsing KR threads? I don't see them anywhere! These are as they ever were - Ctrl-Num+, Ctrl-Num-, Ctrl-Num* -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp9v5kMKth1h.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts
Dear Keith, @23-Aug-2005, 12:54 -0600 (23-Aug 19:54 UK time) Keith Russell [KR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: KR 2. Where do I find the shortcuts for expanding and collapsing KR threads? I don't see them anywhere! These are as they ever were - Ctrl-Num+, Ctrl-Num-, Ctrl-Num* KR And what if I wanted to change them? Erm ... out of luck? :( -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpUHbOpJ2mAi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello, Marck. On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 12:31:52 PM, you wrote: KR 2. Where do I find the shortcuts for expanding and collapsing KR threads? I don't see them anywhere! These are as they ever were - Ctrl-Num+, Ctrl-Num-, Ctrl-Num* And what if I wanted to change them? -- Keith Russell ...When a New Yorker looks as if he's suntanned, it's probably rust. Using The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on a 2.4 GHZ Pentium IV with 512 MB. Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Keyboard shortcuts (was: Persistant bugs.)
Hi Alexander, on Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:22:18 +0200GMT (01.07.2005, 19:22 +0200GMT here), you wrote: ctrl+M marks all messages of a folder as read when the focus is on the folder pane. Still works as it used to. ASK OK. I have the focus on the message list usually. Me too. But shift+tab quickly reverses it, when I assume that there is nothing left that I want to read. :-) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5.36 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Sex is never the answer. Sex is the question. And the answer is YES! Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Persistant bugs.)
A Bat-fellow, Peter Meyns, wrote on Friday, 1st July 2005 at 20:06:04 (GMT +0200), which was ditto in Bratislava -- ctrl+M marks all messages of a folder as read when the focus is on the folder pane. Still works as it used to. OK. I have the focus on the message list usually. Me too. But shift+tab quickly reverses it, when I assume that there is nothing left that I want to read. :-) I don't want to spend my life quickly reversing something that should have been automatic. It bugs me no end you need to switch the focus to the folder pane when marking all messages in a folder as read. It bugs me even more that there's an inane confirmation dialog every single time you do that, and equally enervating is the fact that if you also want to mark all messages in all the current folder's subfolders as read, you need to do that via a checkbox that does not remember its last-used state (checked / unchecked). Thus, I spend many minutes every day performing operations in The Bat! that should be intuitive and automatic. There may have been times when Ritlabs' motto Save Your Time, Extend Your Life may have rung true, but it sounds like an old-fashioned song from the previous century today. -- Yours, Alex. of Slovakia www.avenarius.sk [flying with The Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 amd athlon 2400 mhz 704 mb ram] Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Persistant bugs.)
Hello Peter Meyns everyone else, on 01-Jul-2005 at 20:06 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: ctrl+M marks all messages of a folder as read when the focus is on the folder pane. Still works as it used to. ASK OK. I have the focus on the message list usually. Me too. But shift+tab quickly reverses it, when I assume that there is nothing left that I want to read. :-) I do that on a per-thread basis with Shift+Ctrl+M... :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. (Winston Churchill) Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hello Thomas, As Dwight mentioned, the food alone is worth it. Yes, I've heard that before. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.28 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.28 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hello MAU, On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:32:20 +0200 GMT (17/06/2005, 02:32 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: All beer gets warm during transport - don't you have fridges in Spain? ;-) M Of course we have fridges, but they are already completely full of M beers. No room for more ;-) You need to *work* on it my consuming the beer in the fridge to make space. Beer is not a collectible item, it's a consumable! Fridges need inventory turnover, after all. M I'd really like to go to Thailand, even is there was no beer :) As Dwight mentioned, the food alone is worth it. And the 12 months of summer per year we enjoy. -- Cheers, Thomas. Never give yourself a haircut after three margaritas. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.27 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hello MAU, On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 01:30:44 +0200 GMT (16/06/2005, 06:30 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: I shall ask for Spain too... ;o) M Nahh, don't worry. They would be too warm by the time they got here ;-) All beer gets warm during transport - don't you have fridges in Spain? ;-) M Just wait till I make it to Germany some time :) We have cold beers in Thailand too, you know. -- Cheers, Thomas. This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us. -- Western Union internal memo, 1876. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hello Thomas, M Nahh, don't worry. They would be too warm by the time they got here ;-) All beer gets warm during transport - don't you have fridges in Spain? ;-) Of course we have fridges, but they are already completely full of beers. No room for more ;-) M Just wait till I make it to Germany some time :) We have cold beers in Thailand too, you know. I'd really like to go to Thailand, even is there was no beer :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.27 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
On Thursday, June 16, 2005, 2:32:20 PM, MAU wrote: I'd really like to go to Thailand, even is there was no beer :) The food there must be outstanding, but would also be helped by the beer. By the way, earlier in this thread I wanted to ask about England and ice. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.27 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.5.27 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hello Dwight A Corrin everyone else, on 16-Jun-2005 at 21:43 you (Dwight A Corrin) wrote: The food there must be outstanding, but would also be helped by the beer. By the way, earlier in this thread I wanted to ask about England and ice. I koew you wouldn't want to ask about England and food... ;-) SCNR -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) At last they are beginning to take me seriously. This imposes a terrible burden on me. I must redouble my laughter. -- Lawrence Durrell Current beta is 3.5.27 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hi Natasha, on Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:59:16 +1200GMT, you wrote: PM The keyboard shortcut for Maintenance in the Folder menu is lost. M Why don't you assign your preferred shortcut using Customise? NVP I notice at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4759 you mention you want to NVP start your maintenance via PowerPro. Why not use TB's internal scheduler? I don't want my folder maintenance done at a certain time, but with one click of a button, automatically selecting Kill dupes, Purge and Compress and starting. Miguel's suggestion helped me achieve it. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5.26 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1012 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hi MAU, on Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:32:56 +0200GMT, you wrote: The keyboard shortcut for Maintenance in the Folder menu is lost. We had a short discussion about it in May starting with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] but the shortcut is *still* missing. M Why don't you assign your preferred shortcut using Customise? Ok. It's not quite the same, but it works. Thanks for the idea. :-). BTW, after I assigned a shortcut, the View -- Toolbars menu shrunk to no contents. It returned after a restart of TB!. Known issue? -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5.26 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1012 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hello Peter, M Why don't you assign your preferred shortcut using Customise? Ok. It's not quite the same, but it works. Thanks for the idea. :-). A beer, you owe me a beer ;-) BTW, after I assigned a shortcut, the View -- Toolbars menu shrunk to no contents. It returned after a restart of TB!. Known issue? I think so. At least I seem to recall similar reports. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hello Natasha, I notice at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4759 you mention you want to start your maintenance via PowerPro. That was Peter, not me. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hi MAU, on Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:25:42 +0200GMT, you wrote: M A beer, you owe me a beer ;-) Right, and it's not the first one. :) I'll be back home next week, and I'm about to check out the conditions to send a case of German beer to a friend in Minnesota. I shall ask for Spain too... ;o) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5.26 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1012 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hi Mary, on Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:14:19 -0500GMT, you wrote: BTW, after I assigned a shortcut, the View -- Toolbars menu shrunk to no contents. It returned after a restart of TB!. Known issue? MB Known issue... MB One work-around, if you don't want to re-start The Bat!, is a MB right-click anywhere on the tool bar. That context menu displays the MB same thing as the missing drop-down menu. Oh, thanks a lot. This is sufficient not to care about the bug... ;-) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5.26 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1012 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hello Peter! On Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 11:23 AM, you wrote: M A beer, you owe me a beer ;-) Right, and it's not the first one. :) I'll be back home next week, and I'm about to check out the conditions to send a case of German beer to a friend in Minnesota. I shall ask for Spain too... ;o) Oh, my! Think also about Tennessee, please!! Just kidding, actually. I wouldn't ask that of you for all the world. I do have the opportunity, occasionally, to ask someone to take me for the great food and the dark draft at Nashville's Gerst Haus. I know I'm OT here, so, apologies to everyone. Couldn't resist commenting. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.26 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hi Peter and Miguel P The keyboard shortcut for Maintenance in the Folder menu is lost. M Why don't you assign your preferred shortcut using Customise? N I notice at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4759 you mention you want N to start your maintenance via PowerPro. Why not use TB's internal scheduler? M That was Peter, not me. Apologies. Too much reliance on QTs over here, and not enough on the brain. :) P I don't want my folder maintenance done at a certain time, but with one click P of a button, automatically selecting Kill dupes, Purge and Compress and P starting. Miguel's suggestion helped me achieve it. Good answer. :) I had a feeling I'd regret asking that question. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.5.26 on Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hello Peter, I shall ask for Spain too... ;o) Nahh, don't worry. They would be too warm by the time they got here ;-) Just wait till I make it to Germany some time :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hi all, I'm on a small vacation, so I finally found time to file a bug report about a tiny issue, that bothers me since the beginning of the 3.x series: The keyboard shortcut for Maintenance in the Folder menu is lost. We had a short discussion about it in May starting with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] but the shortcut is *still* missing. So please add your support to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4759 -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5.26 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1012 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hello Peter, The keyboard shortcut for Maintenance in the Folder menu is lost. We had a short discussion about it in May starting with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] but the shortcut is *still* missing. Why don't you assign your preferred shortcut using Customise? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in folder menu
Hi MAU PM The keyboard shortcut for Maintenance in the Folder menu is lost. M Why don't you assign your preferred shortcut using Customise? I notice at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4759 you mention you want to start your maintenance via PowerPro. Why not use TB's internal scheduler? -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.5.26 on Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Keyboard shortcuts in NFS
Hello All, I don't know whether this bug was already mentioned before, I can't find a bugtrack... The keyboard shortcuts in NFS doesn't work anymore. You can't use the keyboard shortcuts for copypaste or undo/redo. Introduced in v3.0.9.1, no problems in v3.0.2.10. -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in NFS
Hello Miroslav, The keyboard shortcuts in NFS doesn't work anymore. something was wrong with the 'tbuser.def', after I killed this file, the shortcuts returned. -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Keyboard shortcuts, sub-menus
Hello beta testers. How do you get to the menu items that are placed in submenus, like e.g. View Show Connection Centre (these ones)? I don't want to move them or anything, just assign shortcuts to them... I do not know how I get to them in the Customize dialogue. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.9.19 Return Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts, sub-menus
Hello Peter, PF How do you get to the menu items that are placed in submenus, like PF e.g. View Show Connection Centre (these ones)? I don't want to move PF them or anything, just assign shortcuts to them... PF I do not know how I get to them in the Customize dialogue. Impossible now -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts, sub-menus
9Val, On 27-04-2005 18:01, you [9] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 9 Impossible now OK, that was easy... :-( -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.9.19 Return Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts, sub-menus
Hello 9Val, PF How do you get to the menu items that are placed in submenus, like PF e.g. View Show Connection Centre (these ones)? I don't want to move PF them or anything, just assign shortcuts to them... PF I do not know how I get to them in the Customize dialogue. Impossible now Correct. The first time I tried to enter a sub-menu I what I did was to double-click on the menu entry and, to my surprise, what happened was that the menu entry was removed just like if I had clicked on the left arrow. A potentially dangerous situation if you do not notice the entry is removed and changes are saved. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts, sub-menus
Hi MAU, M Correct. The first time I tried to enter a sub-menu I what I did was to M double-click on the menu entry and, to my surprise, what happened was Robo currently works on supporting container editing, so please wait :) -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: One-key keyboard shortcuts (was: Feature Request - Collapse Quotes)
Hello Thomas, I, too, am in favour of one-key keyboard shortcuts, such as n for Next or r for Reply. I don't use many keyboard shortcuts but those few that I use frequently I have changed to one-key. For example I use space to mark a message as read and enter to jump to next unread. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
One-key keyboard shortcuts (was: Feature Request - Collapse Quotes)
Hello Richard, On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:52:08 +0100 GMT (26/01/2005, 02:52 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: HdB Then you have my vote. RW I thank you. I, too, am in favour of one-key keyboard shortcuts, such as n for Next or r for Reply. The quicksearch function is a nice gimmick, but I go to the next message or reply to a message *much* more often then I use the quicksearch. -- Cheers, Thomas. If you don't like the news, go out and make some. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Keyboard shortcuts mayhem
Hello TBBETA Members! Some time back I sat two keyboard shortcuts for Mark as Junk and Mark NOT as Junk, the only once I ever set. I had to set them differently for the Message window and the Main window, which I found rather ... wrong. Today I tried to print a message from the Message view by invoking the universal Windows shortcut (Ctrl+p if anybody forgot). It parked the message. So I opened the Shortcut Editor and found that parking a message was assigned to Ctrl+j, which I had used for Mark as Junk. I changed my shortcuts to something other (no warning colour shown), and tried to print again. And again the message was parked. I closed and restarted TB, same all over again. BTW, Ctrl+p is actually shown as the correct shortcut for printing in TB. The main problem actually lies within two different Shortcut Editors sometimes allowing, sometimes not to assign the same (or different) shortcuts to the exact same function. I was unable to assign Ctrl+j to Park Message in the Shortcut Editor invoked from the Message window after I did assign it to the same function, even the same place, in the Shortcut Editor invoked from the Main window. 1. We do need one Shortcut Editor. 2. By default every function that is the same but accessible from two or more places (menu items) should have the exact same keyboard shortcut. 3. As long as warnings are shown and a conflict pane is there we need to be able to change a shortcut whenever we want. 4. We need to delete shortcuts (why should I have KS for features I rarely or never use?). 5. The Shortcut Editor needs to be accessible under Preferences! -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request If a creature, computational or biological, makes eye contact with a person, tracks her gaze, and gestures with interest toward her, that person will experience the creature as sentient, even capable of understanding her inner state. (Sherry Turkle) Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts mayhem
Hello Dierk, On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DH 1. We do need one Shortcut Editor. DH 2. By default every function that is the same but accessible from DH two or more places (menu items) should have the exact same DH keyboard shortcut. DH 3. As long as warnings are shown and a conflict pane is there we DH need to be able to change a shortcut whenever we want. DH 4. We need to delete shortcuts (why should I have KS for features I DH rarely or never use?). DH 5. The Shortcut Editor needs to be accessible under Preferences! I heartily agree with every point you've made. I gave up assigning my own shortcuts a while ago because the whole set up is so confusing that I really had no idea where I was with what setting in whatever situation. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.2.10 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7401 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE pgpmH8gbJcS8j.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts mayhem
A Bat-fellow, Dierk Haasis, wrote on Sunday, 9 January 2005 at 12:32:36 (GMT +0100), which was ditto in Bratislava -- 4. We need to delete shortcuts (why should I have KS for features I rarely or never use?). You can delete keyboard shortcuts using the present editors, just press the Delete key when an action is highlighted in the editor. It's just that, there are so many simultaneous keyboard shortcuts editors absurdly hidden within TB!'s several View menus that you sometimes have to delete a shortcut in four various places in three various editors before the shortcut really becomes available for a different action that you prefer. ;-))) All of this mayhem is, nevertheless, very much preferable to TB! 1.x versions that offered no option to modify default keyboard shortcuts. 1. We do need one Shortcut Editor. Yes. There are superb keyboard shortcut editors in, for instance, EditPlus and even Microsoft Word. There is a *bad* keyboard shortcut editor in, for example, Opera, in that it (just like TB!) prevents you (unless you manually edit the *.ini file) from setting several keyboard shortcuts for the same action -- and that is a must! For instance, I've been moving messages around in TB! via the F8 key for ages -- however, why am I not allowed to keep the default shortcut CTRL+V for that action at the same time? The Opera keyboard shortcut editor, though bad, has one excellent feature: the ability to switch on-the-fly between various sets of customized keyboard shortcuts, including the default set. So, give us MS Word's keyboard shortcut editor in TB! with Opera editor's ability to switch on-the-fly between various sets of shortcuts, and everything will be fine. (And enable the ESC key, along with all other special keys, for keyboard shortcuts in TB!, as right now the ESC key closes the editor instead of being assigned to an action.) -- Yours, Alex. of Slovakia www.avenarius.sk [flying with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 amd athlon 2400 mhz 704 mb ram] Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts mayhem
Sunday, January 9, 2005, 6:32:36 AM, you wrote: 1. We do need one Shortcut Editor. 2. By default every function that is the same but accessible from two or more places (menu items) should have the exact same keyboard shortcut. 3. As long as warnings are shown and a conflict pane is there we need to be able to change a shortcut whenever we want. 4. We need to delete shortcuts (why should I have KS for features I rarely or never use?). 5. The Shortcut Editor needs to be accessible under Preferences! Is this correction on the development time line for the next release? -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Keyboard shortcuts mayhem
Hello Ethan, Monday, January 10, 2005, 12:48:51 AM, you wrote: 1. We do need one Shortcut Editor. ACK. Is this correction on the development time line for the next release? Not that I know of. -- Best regards, Thomas. Using TBv3 under Xandros and Crossover. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts mayhem
Hello Dierk! On Sunday, January 09, 2005, 5:32 AM, you wrote: 1. We do need one Shortcut Editor. 2. By default every function that is the same but accessible from two or more places (menu items) should have the exact same keyboard shortcut. 3. As long as warnings are shown and a conflict pane is there we need to be able to change a shortcut whenever we want. 4. We need to delete shortcuts (why should I have KS for features I rarely or never use?). 5. The Shortcut Editor needs to be accessible under Preferences! I agree wholeheartedly. If no one objects, I shall write up a request for BugTracker about this. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
