Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-27 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Thomas,

Thanks for jumping in, as intended. You quoted me and wrote:

MS It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think
MS this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to
MS delete or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time
MS ago, maybe?

 PMFJI.

 I think this is the logical way. The most recent address is actually
 most likely the one that I use most often, and therefore most likely
 the correct address.

MS I'd prefer to have it sorted alphabetically.

 Please no! I  would ensure that it always shows a non-desired address
 first. I think I would disable autocomplete from history then (and
 grieve for it).


I think this is a misunderstanding, because in the email before that I
wrote:

MS I can, however, delete the entry this way when I use the above
MS mentioned button on the right side of the address field to open the
MS list, go down with the cursor key and hit enter.
MS
MS BTW: This list shows all entries in a non alphabetic order, so it can be
MS hard to find the entry to delete. What order is used there?

So I thought it was obvious that I did *not* mean the list that pops
up as soon as you start typing (let's call it the autocomplete
list). There, I agree, the last used item should be on top.

Instead I meant the list of manually entered addresses (let's call it
the manual address list, that's the one that opens when you click
the down-arrow-button on the right of an address field). I think an
alphabetic list would make more sense there, since this is just a list
of all addresses I ever typed in manually, so it would be more easy to
find an item. Or am I getting something wrong here?


MS Hm, but I guess that's something that depends on taste and the way
MS you use that list. I use it only to delete erratic or unused
MS entries.

 And I use the autocomplete function to autocomplete email addresses -
 there you see how people use it differently. ;-)

That's right again. I too use the autocomplete list to autocomplete, and
the manual address list for managing manually entered addresses ;-)


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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-27 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello MAU,

 You are darn right! I was pretty sure that worked or at least it did in
 the past. But I am now not sure because, since a long time ago, I only
 auto-complete from AB and not History.

That's what I think, too. Maybe that never worked, I can't remember
either.

But as it works somehow to delete items this is ok for me. Too lazy to
file a bug report here...again :-} maybe Art will do? :-)


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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Martin,

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:00:40 +0100 GMT (27/02/2008, 19:00 +0700 GMT),
Martin Schuster wrote:

 Please no! I  would ensure that it always shows a non-desired address
 first. I think I would disable autocomplete from history then (and
 grieve for it).


MS I think this is a misunderstanding, because in the email before that I
MS wrote:

MS I can, however, delete the entry this way when I use the above
MS mentioned button on the right side of the address field to open the
MS list, go down with the cursor key and hit enter.
MS
MS BTW: This list shows all entries in a non alphabetic order, so it can be
MS hard to find the entry to delete. What order is used there?

MS So I thought it was obvious that I did *not* mean the list that pops
MS up as soon as you start typing (let's call it the autocomplete
MS list). There, I agree, the last used item should be on top.

We agree on the last item to be on top.

MS Instead I meant the list of manually entered addresses (let's call it
MS the manual address list, that's the one that opens when you click
MS the down-arrow-button on the right of an address field). I think an
MS alphabetic list would make more sense there, since this is just a list
MS of all addresses I ever typed in manually, so it would be more easy to
MS find an item. Or am I getting something wrong here?

Hm. In my understanding, this actually *is* the history list. To make
my point, my addressbook in the office is completely empty, I use
*only* the history.

MS Hm, but I guess that's something that depends on taste and the way
MS you use that list. I use it only to delete erratic or unused
MS entries.

 And I use the autocomplete function to autocomplete email addresses -
 there you see how people use it differently. ;-)

MS That's right again. I too use the autocomplete list to autocomplete, and
MS the manual address list for managing manually entered addresses ;-)

I am referring to the manually added addresses, i.e. the history,
which I use to autocomplete. ;-)

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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-26 Thread MAU
Hello Art,

 I'm not sure when it stopped working in the 4.0 process, but you were able to
 delete addresses that appear in the Autocomplete drop down box in the To, CC,
 BCC fields in a message.  Previously, all you had to do was scroll down with
 the down arrow, and hit delete on the one you wanted to delete.

Cannot confirm. It is still working as expected here.

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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-26 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Art,

 I'm not sure when it stopped working in the 4.0 process, but you were able to
 delete addresses that appear in the Autocomplete drop down box in the To, CC,
 BCC fields in a message.  Previously, all you had to do was scroll down with
 the down arrow, and hit delete on the one you wanted to delete.

I am not sure what you mean by down arrow: the cursor down-key on
your keyboard or the TB!-button on the right side of the
address-field with the arrows pointing downwards?

Here I can NOT delete an entry when I start typing the first letters,
the list pops up and I use the cursor to go down the list, and hit
delete.

I can, however, delete the entry this way when I use the above
mentioned button on the right side of the address field to open the
list, go down with the cursor key and hit enter.

BTW: This list shows all entries in a non alphabetic order, so it can be
hard to find the entry to delete. What order is used there?


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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-26 Thread MAU
Hello Martin,

 What order is used there?

I'd say it's last used on top.

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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-26 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello MAU,

 What order is used there?

 I'd say it's last used on top.

;-) I'd say obviously my English is not good enough to express
sarcasm...that sort order you mention was my first guess, too. But I
don't think its a good solution. I should better have said:

It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think
this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to
delete or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time
ago, maybe?

I'd prefer to have it sorted alphabetically. Hm, but I guess that's
something that depends on taste and the way you use that list. I use
it only to delete erratic or unused entries.

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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-26 Thread Art
Hi Martin, 

On 2/26/2008, 11:45 AM, Martin Schuster wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I am not sure what you mean by down arrow: the cursor down-key on
 your keyboard or the TB!-button on the right side of the
 address-field with the arrows pointing downwards?

I mean the cursor down key on the keyboard, sorry for the confusion...

 Here I can NOT delete an entry when I start typing the first letters,
 the list pops up and I use the cursor to go down the list, and hit
 delete.

I think you may be experiencing similar behaviour that I am.. 

 I can, however, delete the entry this way when I use the above
 mentioned button on the right side of the address field to open the
 list, go down with the cursor key and hit enter.

It seems a bit erratic to me the way that it works. Sometimes it will delete 
the entry, and other times it won't. Just seems a bit unintuitive.

The only sure way I've found for it to work is if you use the mouse, and
select the entry you want to delete, then hold the left mouse button down 
and hit the delete key at the same time.

Art

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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-26 Thread MAU
Hello Martin,

 It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think
 this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to
 delete...

If I know which address I want to delete, I just start typing it in the
corresponding field and the drop down list will open displaying only
those addresses that match what I have so far typed. At any moment, I
can use the down arrow key to get into the list, scroll if needed, and
delete.

 ...or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time
 ago, maybe?

If you can't remember it, how are you going to look for it? ;-)

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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-26 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello MAU,

 It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think
 this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to
 delete...

 If I know which address I want to delete, I just start typing it in the
 corresponding field and the drop down list will open displaying only
 those addresses that match what I have so far typed. At any moment, I
 can use the down arrow key to get into the list, scroll if needed, and
 delete.

Yes, that would be nice, and that is exactly what's not working here
and on Art's computer! As soon as the list opens automatically (and
not by me pressing on the button on the right) I can't delete an
entry!

 ...or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time
 ago, maybe?

 If you can't remember it, how are you going to look for it? ;-)

Can't remember *exactly*, that's what I meant.

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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-26 Thread Rick Grunwald
 If you can't remember it, how are you going to look for it? ;-)

 Can't remember *exactly*, that's what I meant.
That happens as you get older ... :)) :)) :)) :))
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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-26 Thread MAU
Hello Martin,

 If I know which address I want to delete, I just start typing it in the
 corresponding field and the drop down list will open displaying only
 those addresses that match what I have so far typed. At any moment, I
 can use the down arrow key to get into the list, scroll if needed, and
 delete.

 Yes, that would be nice, and that is exactly what's not working here
 and on Art's computer! As soon as the list opens automatically (and
 not by me pressing on the button on the right) I can't delete an
 entry!

You are darn right! I was pretty sure that worked or at least it did in
the past. But I am now not sure because, since a long time ago, I only
auto-complete from AB and not History. I tried with 3.99.29 and it 
doesn't work either. So, maybe it never worked the way I said and I 
can't check because the oldest version I can revert to ATM is 3.99.29.

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Re: Address Autocomplete

2008-02-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Martin,

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:02:19 +0100 GMT (27/02/2008, 00:02 +0700 GMT),
Martin Schuster wrote:

MS It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think
MS this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to
MS delete or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time
MS ago, maybe?

PMFJI.

I think this is the logical way. The most recent address is actually
most likely the one that I use most often, and therefore most likely
the correct address.

MS I'd prefer to have it sorted alphabetically.

Please no! I  would ensure that it always shows a non-desired address
first. I think I would disable autocomplete from history then (and
grieve for it).

MS Hm, but I guess that's something that depends on taste and the way
MS you use that list. I use it only to delete erratic or unused
MS entries.

And I use the autocomplete function to autocomplete email addresses -
there you see how people use it differently. ;-)

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