Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hello Greg, M Ever since many years ago I moved to TB from my beloved Virtual Access I M have missed a feature VA had, Bookmarks. You have my vote. :) I expected it, thanks :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hello Thomas, The colour groups are assigned by filters. Or just manually my friend, or just manually :) The virtual folders are search results, a way of filtering just for display, but filtering nevertheless. These filters also have conditions. I didn't know that ;) If I understand you correctly, message A should have both colour group 1 and colour group 2 assigned, so you can see it when I search for CG1 and also when you search for CG2. You might even have VFs that look for CGs accordingly, so you don't need to start the search manually every time. I guess you didn't understand me correctly, maybe because I didn't explain it clearly enough. Say I'm looking at a message that I subjectively consider both 'important' and 'for reference' and that I have two Colour Groups called *Important* and *For Reference*. Do you know of any way I can assign those 2 CGs to the message? That's what I'm looking for and that I could do that with Bookmarks in VA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hello Paul, Can you create a virtual folder [For Reference] and a Color Group [Important], or: Use the Flag for Important and use a Color Group for Reference. Both methods work well for me. I use flags for other purposes. Anyway, what if I want to 'flag' a messages as 'Important', 'For Reference', 'Action Pending','Fwd2David' and, in general, 'Category X', 'Category Y', etc.,etc.? With Bookmarks, I can create as many 'categories' as I want and if I want to (because I subjectively think so) assign a message to all of them. That can be done with watch folders right now, I can 'watch for replies' to a message in as many Watch (chat) Folders as I want to, and later on remove the watch separately from each folder. For example, I can easily remove it from the 'Action Pending' one because I have taken whatever action was needed, but the message will still show in the 'Important' and 'Category X' bookmarks (watch folders). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hello MAU, On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:31:18 +0200 GMT (23/10/2006, 15:31 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: The colour groups are assigned by filters. M Or just manually my friend, or just manually :) The point I overlooked. M I guess you didn't understand me correctly, maybe because I didn't M explain it clearly enough. M Say I'm looking at a message that I subjectively consider both M 'important' and 'for reference' and that I have two Colour Groups called M *Important* and *For Reference*. Do you know of any way I can assign M those 2 CGs to the message? That's what I'm looking for and that I could M do that with Bookmarks in VA. OK. I do this by copying the message to an appropriate folder. For example, I receive seafreight rates to Tokyo. Of course, they belong in the Japan folder. I manually copy the mail into the seafreight rates folder where all seafreight rates regardless of destination are kept. What you want to achieve sounds more elegant. -- Cheers, Thomas. My old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, You're next! They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hi MAU and fellow beta testers, Monday, October 23, 2006, 6:16:29 AM, you wrote: M With Bookmarks, I can create as many 'categories' as I want and if I M want to (because I subjectively think so) assign a message to all of M them. What you are describing is called by Gmail labels. They are exceedingly useful because they are tantamount to putting a copy of the message into numerous folders but without the overhead of the increased storage required for multiple copies of the message in multiple folders. I also support your wish and have just added my note to the wish at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6057 -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hello Thomas, M Say I'm looking at a message that I subjectively consider both M 'important' and 'for reference' and that I have two Colour Groups called M *Important* and *For Reference*. Do you know of any way I can assign M those 2 CGs to the message? That's what I'm looking for and that I could M do that with Bookmarks in VA. OK. I do this by copying the message to an appropriate folder. I did that a long time ago, but it is a bit more cumbersome to use (copy and select the folder), it has the overhead of multiple copies of a message (including attachments), the copies do not reflect the changes to flags (replied, forwarded, flag and keep) of the original, you cannot easily go to the original from one of the copies (you have to remember or guess where the original is), etc., etc. What you want to achieve sounds more elegant. And more practical and easy to use. See attachments :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Bmk_tbar.png Description: PNG image Bmk_menu.png Description: PNG image Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hello Perry, M With Bookmarks, I can create as many 'categories' as I want and if I M want to (because I subjectively think so) assign a message to all of M them. What you are describing is called by Gmail labels. They are exceedingly useful because they are tantamount to putting a copy of the message into numerous folders but without the overhead of the increased storage required for multiple copies of the message in multiple folders. I'm not familiar with Gmail but, from what you say, it looks like 'labels' is what I call 'bookmarks'. Thanks for the support note :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hello Paul, comprendo, You are a little more complex than me in your organization. Your suggestion is to have a Groups type of function for messages that works similar to the Groups in the Address Book, yes? Yes, you are right. I had not thought about it but yes, it is somewhat similar (equal?) to AB groups. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hello MAU, On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:57:21 +0200 GMT (23/10/2006, 18:57 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: OK. I do this by copying the message to an appropriate folder. M I did that a long time ago, but it is a bit more cumbersome to use (copy M and select the folder), it has the overhead of multiple copies M of a message (including attachments), the copies do not reflect the M changes to flags (replied, forwarded, flag and keep) of the original, M you cannot easily go to the original from one of the copies (you have to M remember or guess where the original is), etc., etc. True, true. What you want to achieve sounds more elegant. M And more practical and easy to use. See attachments :) You have convinced me. I have added my support to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6057 I like the concept of multiple labels (call them bookmarks if you want), rather than just the Flag, which is a yes/no label. -- Cheers, Thomas. Apple - Typically a device to seduce men, usually equipped with a display screen. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hello Thomas, What you want to achieve sounds more elegant. M And more practical and easy to use. See attachments :) You have convinced me. I knew I would, I'm stubborn :) Thanks for the supporting note. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Have you ever missed the possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?
Hello MAU, On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:35:59 +0200 GMT (22/10/2006, 23:35 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M The difference is that in TB you assign Colour Groups to messages and in M VA you assigned messages to Bookmarks. And what this actually means is M that you can ONLY assign one Color Group to a message while in VA you M could assign a message to several Bookmarks. M I have about 20 Color Groups defined in TB and there are many times that M I would want to assign 2 or 3 (or more) C.G. to a message and this way M appear in 2 or 3 (or more) of the Common VFs that I use to display all M messages in a CG. Why can't a message belong to the categories (Color M Groups) 'Important', 'Waiting Response', 'For Reference?, 'Offers', or M whatever? The colour groups are assigned by filters. These filters have filtering conditions. The virtual folders are search results, a way of filtering just for display, but filtering nevertheless. These filters also have conditions. If I understand you correctly, message A should have both colour group 1 and colour group 2 assigned, so you can see it when I search for CG1 and also when you search for CG2. You might even have VFs that look for CGs accordingly, so you don't need to start the search manually every time. Why don't you just create a virtual folder that searches for / filters on the conditions that you use to assign CG1 *or*/*and* (whichever is applicable in your case) CG2? Or better, just create a VF that searches for the conditions in CG1 and another that searches for the conditions in CG2? This way, a message can be found by both filters and will be shown in both VFs, without even the need of the intermittent step of assigning the CGs in the first place (unless you like colours). M What I have done is create several Common Chant Folders, one per There are some typing mistakes that I really like. ;-) M The only drawback I have found, so far, using this method is that M _replies_, if they come, will also be displayed in bookmark folders as, M after all, they are Watch Folders. Also, having to select 'Watch M replies in...' is not too intuitive. You won't have this problem if you create the virtual folders the way I suggest above. -- Cheers, Thomas. You should never kiss a girl unless you have enough bucks or buy her a big ring and her own VCR, 'cause she'll want to have videos of the wedding. (Jim, 10) http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
