Re: Setting Expand all threads is ignored when switching between two threading viewmodes
Hello mse, On Wed, 9 Nov 2011, at 22:01:14 [GMT +0100] (which was 22:01 where I live) mse wrote: For quite some time I observe that in a specific situation the threads are not expanded although this setting is enabled. This non-expanding always happens when the folder that was previously selected also has a viewmode assigned, that threads messages and expands these threads. However, expanding all threads works correctly when switching to a third folder with no viewmode or a non-threading viewmode in between. I can confirm this. See steps to reproduce here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8937 Bug confirmed in BT. -- Kind regards GwenDragon Webmistress Using The Bat! 5.0.26.10 (ALPHA) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Website: http://gwendragon.de/ E-Mail: g...@gwendragon.de E-Mail mit GnuPG signiert/Signed with GnuPG GnuPG-Signatur DSA/1024 Key-ID: 0x6E56AC7D4492AD16 Fingerprint: 0BC8 DDF7 E381 190B AF7D A327 6E56 AC7D 4492 AD16 pgp89LD5hpc20.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Setting Expand all threads is ignored when switching between two threading viewmodes
Hello all, In the settings for viewmodes you can specify, that when displaying messages in threads, all those threads shall be expanded (enable setting Expand all threads). For quite some time I observe that in a specific situation the threads are not expanded although this setting is enabled. This non-expanding always happens when the folder that was previously selected also has a viewmode assigned, that threads messages and expands these threads. However, expanding all threads works correctly when switching to a third folder with no viewmode or a non-threading viewmode in between. See steps to reproduce here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8937 Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.26.10 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 SP1 32Bit, without OTFE Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
First column in non-threading mode is still wide like in threading mode
Hello, is it really so hard to fix this? Why is empty place used for [+] icon displayed in mode without threading? -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.4 RC/4 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Still additional space in first column with no threading mode enabled
Hello, seems like first column in non-threading uses same column width like threading mode, but this is wrong. Please fix before final version. -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.142 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM int_1.jpg Current beta is 5.0.0.142 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Status bar counter includes groups when threading by Subject/Sender/Recipient
Hello, when is threading by Subject/Sender/Recipient enabled for particular folder, I expand all groups and select all messages in folder by Ctrl+A, counter Selected messages in Status bar includes groups too. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8473 -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.141 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
When displaying deleted messages, Subject is not crossed in Threading mode
Hello, when I enable Browse deleted messages, deleted messages are crossed in message list. When is threading mode disabled, everything including Subject is crossed, but in Threading mode, Subject is not crossed. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8266 -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.125 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.125 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message list Context menu group Thread is displayed in non-threading mode
Hello, I am playing with view modes and as I discovered, group Thread is included in context menu of Message list pane, even I have no threading mode enabled. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8268 -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.125 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.125 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changed threading behavior in 4.0.34.11
I am resending this as it is a serious aggravation and change in behavior that happened for the first time in this release (.11) Should I open a bug report? Formerly a thread from an earlier time would receive a new message and move to the top of the message list. The thread would stay there even if I deleted the new message Now, if you delete the new message it jumps back to it's former place in the message list. I am threading by references, expanding all threads, grouping by date, and new thread sorting. This is the way it was before and after upgrading to .11 - nothing else changed Confirm anyone? -- Rick GOP stands for Greed Over People v4.0.34.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changed threading behavior in 4.0.34.11
I have just noticed a change in behavior that I don't particularly care for. Formerly a thread from an earlier time would receive a new message and move to the top of the message list. The thread would stay there even if I deleted the new message Now, if you delete the new message it jumps back to it's former place in the message list. I am threading by references, expanding all threads, grouping by date, and new thread sorting. This is the way it was before and after upgrading to .11 - nothing else changed Confirm anyone? -- Rick Considering McCain? You're not doing the math! v4.0.34.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Thursday, February 28, 2008, 5:57:57 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: Your answer is in the word attachment. It is not a part of the message and bears no identity of the message. They are as different as apples and cucumbers. it sure is. just look at the size of the message. it just gets added differently. when it is gone the message is changed. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading issue
2/29/2008 12:30 PM Hi Dwight, On 2/29/2008 Dwight Corrin wrote: Your answer is in the word attachment. It is not a part of the message and bears no identity of the message. They are as different as apples and cucumbers. DC it sure is. just look at the size of the message. it just gets added DC differently. when it is gone the message is changed. It can also be stored apart from the message. The attachment is nothing more than a passenger who has hired a message to transport it. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Thursday, February 28, 2008, 5:57:57 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: Your answer is in the word attachment. It is not a part of the message and bears no identity of the message. They are as different as apples and cucumbers. it sure is. just look at the size of the message. it just gets added differently. when it is gone the message is changed. You have a point!! -- Rick Republicans - OUT! v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Thursday, February 28, 2008, 6:20:59 PM, MAU wrote: Seems to me that 'supplementary' is the key. If you are trying to maintain integrity of what was sent/received, then the attachment has to be considered part of that package. If we are worrying about evidentiary matters, then we have to worry about what was in the attachment as much or more than what was in the headers. You can doctor what was sent/received and where are we left. How you can restrict the sanctity of all this to one portion and still pretend that there is some moral imperative for the whole is beyond me. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Friday, February 29, 2008, 11:31:29 AM, Paul Van Noord wrote: It can also be stored apart from the message. For the sanctity of what was dispatched, this too should be eliminated. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.8 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Dwight, How you can restrict the sanctity of all this to one portion and still pretend that there is some moral imperative for the whole is beyond me. In my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], a reply to Rick Grunwald about editing Subject or nor, I wrote: ,- [ ] | It is and has been a long and endless discussion and it is not the first | time I say I will not support it. But I will not go wild either if the | option is ever implemented. :) `- :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 8:01:32 PM, MAU wrote: This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received message is maintained, including all the headers. What is with this obsession with the full integrity of received message? Maybe that is the least important aspect of the messages someone wants to edit. If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.7 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 8:01:32 PM, MAU wrote: This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received message is maintained, including all the headers. What is with this obsession with the full integrity of received message? Maybe that is the least important aspect of the messages someone wants to edit. If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment? When such passionate arguments are in process you aren't supposed to make so much sense :)) -- Rick Are we in the Post-Bush era yet? v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Dwight, This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received message is maintained, including all the headers. What is with this obsession with the full integrity of received message? Maybe that is the least important aspect of the messages someone wants to edit. Yes, maybe. If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/attachment ,- [ ] | a. A supplementary part; an accessory: /bought a vacuum cleaner with | several attachments/. See Synonyms at _appendage_. | | b. A supplementary document that is attached to a primary document: | /stapled two attachments to the memorandum/. `- Seems to me that 'supplementary' is the key. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading issue
2/28/2008 6:55 PM Hi Dwight, On 2/28/2008 Dwight Corrin wrote: DC If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate DC attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment? Your answer is in the word attachment. It is not a part of the message and bears no identity of the message. They are as different as apples and cucumbers. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading issue
2/27/2008 12:20 PM Hi MAU, On 2/26/2008 MAU wrote: M Why don't you forward it to yourself as a MIME attachment? You don't M even need to actually send it, just put it in Outbox and then move it to M appropriate folder. This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity M of received message is maintained, including all the headers. M This has also the side advantage that you can use the body of the M message to yourself for notes or comments about the received message M and, again, maintaining full integrity of the received message. I have M done this a few times instead of using the Memo field, which is not M readily visible and that is kept separately in the Index file and not as M part of the message itself. M And if the received message is part of a thread (for example a reply to M a previous one in a mailing list), and you'd like to maintain threading, M do a Reply to the the same 'previous' message and attach it. Again, this M will maintain full integrity of the originally received message. Actually I just drag the message to the Outbox, change the subject line and file it. The original subject is unimportant to me and threading is not an issue as I seldom use it. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Threading issue
I have a message that incorrectly threaded with another from last August. I cannot break the threading Can someone post the directions once again to make sure I am doing it correctly? I [shift] drag it to the left and get the message OK to remove the threading to which I answer OK but nothing happens -- Rick Republicans - OUT! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I have a message that incorrectly threaded with another from last August. I cannot break the threading Are you threading just by Reference, by Subject or by Reference plus Subject? Why do you think is it incorrectly Threaded? What is the Message-ID of the message it is threaded to? What is the 'In-Reply-To:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? What is the 'References:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? Could it be that you threaded it manually? Can someone post the directions once again to make sure I am doing it correctly? I [shift] drag it to the left and get the message OK to remove the threading to which I answer OK but nothing happens. You don't seem to be doing anything wrong but, the fact that threading is not removed may depend on your answer to above questions. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I have a message that incorrectly threaded with another from last August. I cannot break the threading Are you threading just by Reference, by Subject or by Reference plus Subject? Why do you think is it incorrectly Threaded? What is the Message-ID of the message it is threaded to? What is the 'In-Reply-To:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? What is the 'References:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? Could it be that you threaded it manually? Can someone post the directions once again to make sure I am doing it correctly? I [shift] drag it to the left and get the message OK to remove the threading to which I answer OK but nothing happens. You don't seem to be doing anything wrong but, the fact that threading is not removed may depend on your answer to above questions. I created a new email yesterday. I received a reply today. It attached to a message with the same subject but otherwise totally unrelated that was sent back in August. That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject One has References the older one does not The message IDs are totally different The only thing in common is the subject I have had things thread incorrectly before (very rare!) but I can't UNthread these -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject Change it to just by Reference. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
You don't seem to be doing anything wrong but, the fact that threading is not removed may depend on your answer to above questions. I just discovered that I CAN thread it to a different message. If I do that the one from August disappears back down the list. However if I remove the NEW threading, it is again threaded to the original from August The only way to break the threading is to thread it to something else. Odd ... -- Rick Make no mistake; The war in Iraq is a war to secure oil profits. Sadly it worked ... v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject Change it to just by Reference. Thanks - that fixed it but I remember when I first started using the Bat, an experienced user advised me to set it up reference + subject -- Rick Republican tax breaks for large corporations: Remember them the next time you see a CEO with hundreds of million$ in their golden parachute All that money came from somewhere. v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I just discovered that I CAN thread it to a different message. If I do that the one from August disappears back down the list. However if I remove the NEW threading, it is again threaded to the original from August Yes, that is the 'stupid' way threading by Subject works. Because it is NOT threading, it is and should be called 'Grouping' or something similar. The only way to break the threading is to thread it to something else. Odd ... Think of it, just for illustration purposes, as it was a virtual folder filtering on an specific subject. How can you prevent a message from appearing in such a 'folder' if it has the required subject? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I just discovered that I CAN thread it to a different message. If I do that the one from August disappears back down the list. However if I remove the NEW threading, it is again threaded to the original from August Yes, that is the 'stupid' way threading by Subject works. Because it is NOT threading, it is and should be called 'Grouping' or something similar. The only way to break the threading is to thread it to something else. Odd ... Think of it, just for illustration purposes, as it was a virtual folder filtering on an specific subject. How can you prevent a message from appearing in such a 'folder' if it has the required subject? Oh I understood when you gave the advice - that was a leftover from when I was new to the bat. BTW your last paragraph gave yet another EXCELLENT REASON to implement Subject editing in received emails :)) -- Rick Republicans - OUT! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject Change it to just by Reference. Thanks - that fixed it but I remember when I first started using the Bat, an experienced user advised me to set it up reference + subject I am sure it wasn't me, I would have never suggested that and now you know why :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject Change it to just by Reference. Thanks - that fixed it but I remember when I first started using the Bat, an experienced user advised me to set it up reference + subject I am sure it wasn't me, I would have never suggested that and now you know why :) The thing is it wouldn't let me BREAK the threading unless I threaded it to something else - they the original with the same subject would disappear -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, BTW your last paragraph gave yet another EXCELLENT REASON to implement Subject editing in received emails :)) Yes, and why not be able to also edit the Created date and time? Haven't you ver received a message with a 'wrong date' and that doesn't show properly if you are sorting by Created date? And, while we are at it, why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Or even, and while we are still at it, to change the name of an attachment so it will not be confused with one we received yesterday with the same name. And... :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, BTW your last paragraph gave yet another EXCELLENT REASON to implement Subject editing in received emails :)) Yes, and why not be able to also edit the Created date and time? Haven't you ver received a message with a 'wrong date' and that doesn't show properly if you are sorting by Created date? And, while we are at it, why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Or even, and while we are still at it, to change the name of an attachment so it will not be confused with one we received yesterday with the same name. And... :) All good points! However supporting editing the subject line is sufficient for this version https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 :)) -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, All good points! However supporting editing the subject line is sufficient for this version https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 :)) It is and has been a long and endless discussion and it is not the first time I say I will not support it. But I will not go wild either if the option is ever implemented. :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Guten Tag Rick Grunwald, am Dienstag, 26. Februar 2008 um 17:56 schrieben Sie: Hello Rick, I have a message that incorrectly threaded with another from last August. I cannot break the threading Are you threading just by Reference, by Subject or by Reference plus Subject? Why do you think is it incorrectly Threaded? What is the Message-ID of the message it is threaded to? What is the 'In-Reply-To:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? What is the 'References:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? Could it be that you threaded it manually? Can someone post the directions once again to make sure I am doing it correctly? I [shift] drag it to the left and get the message OK to remove the threading to which I answer OK but nothing happens. You don't seem to be doing anything wrong but, the fact that threading is not removed may depend on your answer to above questions. I created a new email yesterday. I received a reply today. It attached to a message with the same subject but otherwise totally unrelated that was sent back in August. That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject One has References the older one does not The message IDs are totally different The only thing in common is the subject I have had things thread incorrectly before (very rare!) but I can't UNthread these You should maybe be more exactly, because the Threading depends on the Reference of the Mail. Please post both Message-IDs (Example) [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the Headers of the wrong following Message (Example) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then everybody is able to see, if this Threading is ok. Otherwise, you should edit the following Mail. And: believe me, Users often use a old Message and start a new Thread by clicking reply on the old, if you then have threading, you are lost in space. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.7 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading issue
2/26/2008 1:57 PM Hi MAU, On 2/26/2008 MAU wrote: BTW your last paragraph gave yet another EXCELLENT REASON to implement Subject editing in received emails :)) M Yes, and why not be able to also edit the Created date and time? M Haven't you ver received a message with a 'wrong date' and that M doesn't show properly if you are sorting by Created date? And, while we M are at it, why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Or M even, and while we are still at it, to change the name of an attachment M so it will not be confused with one we received yesterday with the same M name. And... :) Well said! - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
2/26/2008 1:57 PM Hi MAU, On 2/26/2008 MAU wrote: BTW your last paragraph gave yet another EXCELLENT REASON to implement Subject editing in received emails :)) M Yes, and why not be able to also edit the Created date and time? M Haven't you ver received a message with a 'wrong date' and that M doesn't show properly if you are sorting by Created date? And, while we M are at it, why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Or M even, and while we are still at it, to change the name of an attachment M so it will not be confused with one we received yesterday with the same M name. And... :) Well said! But I will not go wild either if the option is ever implemented. :) WELL SAID! -- Rick Bush - 7 years of shame v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading issue
Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 1:21:22 PM you wrote: M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. -- Regards, Maggie Why not? Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.14 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Maggie, M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. Sorry my dear, but I don't wish :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 1:21:22 PM you wrote: M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. SUPPORTED! -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Guten Tag Rick Grunwald, am Dienstag, 26. Februar 2008 um 21:04 schrieben Sie: Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 1:21:22 PM you wrote: M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. SUPPORTED! Absolutely supported! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.7 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Guten Tag Rick Grunwald, am Dienstag, 26. Februar 2008 um 21:04 schrieben Sie: Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 1:21:22 PM you wrote: M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. SUPPORTED! Absolutely supported! ... and I support your support! MAU - it was your idea - do you want to open the whish item? :)) -- Rick Dare we hope? Vote for hope in 08 v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Jens, M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. SUPPORTED! Absolutely supported! Oh my goodness! You guys can't be serious! I leave you alone for a couple of hours and look what you have started! ;-) Isn't it much simpler, with no development required and with no fiddling needed with the headers of a message because your want to view it with your preferred profile which is defined for a different charset, to just use one profile (the default one, for example) that is NOT associated to any charset in particular? That way, all messages, no matter which charset is used, will be viewed with this profile. And then, if a language/charset is best viewed with a different font and profile, define one associated to that charset in particular. I really can't believe you are being serious. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading issue
Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 2:35:06 PM you wrote: M Hello Maggie, M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. M Sorry my dear, but I don't wish :) Guffaw!create a wish. -- Regards, Maggie You cannot kill time without injuring eternity. Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.14 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
I really can't believe you are being serious. We were just following your lead! :'( -- Rick The Mideast Oil Crusade did more for militant Islam than Osama EVER could have. v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, MAU - it was your idea - do you want to open the whish item? :)) Certainly NOT! See my reply to Jens :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I really can't believe you are being serious. We were just following your lead! :'( My 'lead', as you call it, and please don't anyone feel offended, was just to illustrate how 'ridiculous' I find the request to edit the Subject of received messages. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I really can't believe you are being serious. We were just following your lead! :'( My 'lead', as you call it, and please don't anyone feel offended, was just to illustrate how 'ridiculous' I find the request to edit the Subject of received messages. ... and you were having your leg pulled :)) -- Rick Republican tax breaks for large corporations: Remember them the next time you see a CEO with hundreds of million$ in their golden parachute All that money came from somewhere. v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading issue
2/26/2008 4:31 PM Hi MAU, On 2/26/2008 MAU wrote: M I really can't believe you are being serious. Me either. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading issue
2/26/2008 4:32 PM Hi MAU, On 2/26/2008 MAU wrote: I really can't believe you are being serious. We were just following your lead! :'( M My 'lead', as you call it, and please don't anyone feel offended, was M just to illustrate how 'ridiculous' I find the request to edit the M Subject of received messages. P. T. Barnum said there is one born every minute. 8-]} - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
M just to illustrate how 'ridiculous' I find the request to edit the M Subject of received messages. Actually Poco mail allows that and I found it to occasionally be VERY handy -- Rick If all life is sacred ... How can Republicans be pro life AND for capital punishment? v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading issue
2/26/2008 5:27 PM Hi Rick, On 2/26/2008 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Actually Poco mail allows that and I found it to occasionally be VERY RG handy Too many other challenges with Poco. I admit there are times I want to change the subject is a received message so I just redirect it to me with the changes. Takes little time and works well. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading issue
Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 4:08:32 PM you wrote: M Hello Jens, M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. SUPPORTED! Absolutely supported! M Oh my goodness! You guys can't be serious! I leave you alone for a M couple of hours and look what you have started! ;-) It's not our fault - there wasn't enough beer. -- Regards, Maggie Home is where the books are. Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.14 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Maggie, On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:34:59 -0500 GMT (27/02/2008, 06:34 +0700 GMT), Maggie Meister wrote: SUPPORTED! Absolutely supported! M Oh my goodness! You guys can't be serious! I leave you alone for a M couple of hours and look what you have started! ;-) MM It's not our fault - there wasn't enough beer. You should try one of my beer. According to MAU, it is good for your eyes too, as it will prevent you from having to look at the wrong font. -- Cheers, Thomas. I've heard people are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.7 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Paul, I admit there are times I want to change the subject is a received message so I just redirect it to me with the changes. Takes little time and works well. Why don't you forward it to yourself as a MIME attachment? You don't even need to actually send it, just put it in Outbox and then move it to appropriate folder. This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received message is maintained, including all the headers. This has also the side advantage that you can use the body of the message to yourself for notes or comments about the received message and, again, maintaining full integrity of the received message. I have done this a few times instead of using the Memo field, which is not readily visible and that is kept separately in the Index file and not as part of the message itself. And if the received message is part of a thread (for example a reply to a previous one in a mailing list), and you'd like to maintain threading, do a Reply to the the same 'previous' message and attach it. Again, this will maintain full integrity of the originally received message. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading - changed behavior?
On Thursday, February 14, 2008, at 18:07:11 [UTC-0500] (Thursday, February 14, 2008 00:07 my local time) Rick Grunwald wrote: Thanks for the quick reply. I had the sort on CREATED. I sorted by Received and there was no change in the order. The thread with the newest message was still in the same place has always been like this afair I don't think so. A new message used to drive the thread to the thread to the top of the list. Now it does not although a new message to a thread sitting in YESTERDAY'S mail will do as before: drive the thread to the top of today's mail I am sure the operation of New thread sorting was changed in 4.0.14 version. Previous behaviour was better for me due to quick move of the thread to the top of list. In 4.0.14.3 the rule still remains erroneous. Confirmed -- Is the message delimiter bug fixed yet? -- Rick Bush - 7 years of shame v4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading - changed behavior?
Thanks for the quick reply. I had the sort on CREATED. I sorted by Received and there was no change in the order. The thread with the newest message was still in the same place has always been like this afair -- Best regards, Carsten Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading - changed behavior?
Thanks for the quick reply. I had the sort on CREATED. I sorted by Received and there was no change in the order. The thread with the newest message was still in the same place has always been like this afair I don't think so. A new message used to drive the thread to the thread to the top of the list. Now it does not although a new message to a thread sitting in YESTERDAY'S mail will do as before: drive the thread to the top of today's mail -- Rick In Bush we trusted, now we are busted v4.0.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Threading - changed behavior?
I have threading set up to thread by references+subject and sort by date descending, sort new threads check. I BELIEVE that when a new message arrived and was threaded with another, it drove the thread to the top (I sort mail descending). That no longer seems to be the case. Is this changed behavior? -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 attachment: threading.jpg Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading - changed behavior?
On Tuesday, February 12, 2008, at 16:34:04 [UTC-0500] (Tuesday, February 12, 2008 22:34 my local time) Rick Grunwald wrote: I have threading set up to thread by references+subject and sort by date descending, sort new threads check. I BELIEVE that when a new message arrived and was threaded with another, it drove the thread to the top (I sort mail descending). That no longer seems to be the case. Is this changed behavior? Probably yes, I can confirm such change as well. RIT, please revert it to the original operation. Anyone else? I can make a bug tracker entry if there isn't already one out there ... -- Rick Republican tax breaks for large corporations: Remember them the next time you see a CEO with hundreds of million$ in their golden parachute All that money came from somewhere. v4.0.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading - changed behavior?
Hello Rick, RG I have threading set up to thread by references+subject and sort by RG date descending, sort new threads check. I don't see the arrow on the Received column, so sorting criteria is something unknown... -- Best regards, Stefan Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading - changed behavior?
Hello Rick, RG I have threading set up to thread by references+subject and sort by RG date descending, sort new threads check. I don't see the arrow on the Received column, so sorting criteria is something unknown... Thanks for the quick reply. I had the sort on CREATED. I sorted by Received and there was no change in the order. The thread with the newest message was still in the same place -- Rick In Bush we trusted, now we are busted v4.0.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replies not threading (WAS: Re: Found it)
Hello Ethan, I use the TB for my replies. ... ... So, at this time I have to cut and past a new message to participate in the conversation. OK, no problem. I was just curious about what was the reason for not threading. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Replies not threading (WAS: Re: Found it)
Hello Ethan, Sorry. Closing TB, removing the reg-key, restarting TB did not bring the Languages menu option back. TB still complains about selecting languages. Confirmed. Your last 3 replies will not thread. That is, they do not include an In-Reply-To or References header. Have you used TB for these replies? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Replies not threading (WAS: Re: Found it)
Hello , Your last 3 replies will not thread. That is, they do not include an In-Reply-To or References header. Have you used TB for these replies? Miguel: I use the TB for my replies. However, the digest has been blacklisted given the use of images and html files. Example: Content-Type: IMAGE/PNG; name=B_English.png Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=B_English.png So, at this time I have to cut and past a new message to participate in the conversation. Personally, I would prefer if html messages, encoding file attachments could be dropped. However, this is the best I can do at this time. Jerry -- Best regards, Ethan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject
Hello all, I have a couple of folders where I thread by Subject. In previous versions (up to 3.99.29) I could select the 'group' and when hitting Delete (or selecting it from menu) I would get a confirmation dialog saying: --- Delete messages --- The selection contains groups. Do you really want to delete them? --- Sí No --- If if my answer was 'Yes', ALL messages in the group would be deleted. In current version, when selecting the 'group' the Delete key doesn't do anything and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out) in menu. If this a bug or a new intended behaviour? If not a bug, why the change? I think that getting the confirmation dialog was safe enough, more specially so when you also have the option to Undelete. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject
Hello MAU, In current version, when selecting the 'group' the Delete key doesn't do anything and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out) in menu. If this a bug or a new intended behaviour? If not a bug, why the change? I think that getting the confirmation dialog was safe enough, more specially so when you also have the option to Undelete. I had forgotten about the Thread/Delete (Shift+Ctrl+M) option. It still works, but with no confirmation dialog. It just deletes the thread. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject
Hello MAU, M In current version, when selecting the 'group' the Delete key doesn't do M anything and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out) in menu. M If this a bug or a new intended behaviour? If not a bug, why the change? It's a bug, definitely. -- Cheers! Stefan ...The fault lies not with our technologies but with our systems. - Roger Levian Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject
Hello all, Sunday, December 23, 2007, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: M In current version, when selecting the 'group' the Delete key doesn't do M anything and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out) in menu. M If this a bug or a new intended behaviour? If not a bug, why the change? It's a bug, definitely. seems other confirmations dialogs are not working too, TB stopped displaying confirmation before saving message with empty subject, I have it enabled. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject
Hello Marek, MM seems other confirmations dialogs are not working too, TB stopped MM displaying confirmation before saving message with empty subject, MM I have it enabled. Here, all confirmations are working... I wonder whether it has something to do with Maxim's compilation... -- Cheers! Stefan ...Feel lucky??? Update your software! Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject
Hello Stefan, M In current version, when selecting the 'group' the Delete key doesn't do M anything and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out) in menu. M If this a bug or a new intended behaviour? If not a bug, why the change? It's a bug, definitely. And it has a BT number now: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6573 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject
On Sunday, December 23, 2007, 8:48:27 AM, Peter Hampf wrote: here it also prompts me when I try to save a message without a subject. I didn't get a prompt, but I can't find the spot to be sure it's set to do so. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject
Hello all, Sunday, December 23, 2007, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: MM seems other confirmations dialogs are not working too, TB stopped MM displaying confirmation before saving message with empty subject, MM I have it enabled. Here, all confirmations are working... I wonder whether it has something to do with Maxim's compilation... do not understand why, but registry entry Empty Subject Warning have allways 0 value, even I check this option in Preferences. And when I filled 1 manually and started TB, this options stays disabled... -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.2: Can't delete groups when threading by Subject
Hello all, Sunday, December 23, 2007, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: MM seems other confirmations dialogs are not working too, TB stopped MM displaying confirmation before saving message with empty subject, MM I have it enabled. Here, all confirmations are working... I wonder whether it has something to do with Maxim's compilation... I see confirmation when marking messages as read in account or folder, deleting parked messages or deleting message from preview, but do not see confirmation when deleting message groups or when saving message with empty subject. And all 6 options are checked. Strange, isn't it? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading Issues
Alexander, Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 12:26:29 PM, you wrote: ASK Try to use threading by reference and subject (combined). ASK Press ALT+5 in the messagelist to activate it, or by ASK reference alone (ALT+1). Its not a cure-all, but usually ASK better than threading by subject alone. For me, this isn't much better. In fact, all of the threading options just scatter messages about in different ways, probably due to the fact that no two email programs agree on how to address the darn things. sigh ASK Add a supporting note to this wishlist item, please: ASK http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5152 Added. Hope we get more votes... I hope everyone else on this list checks it out to see if they agree it is worthwile (or not)... ASK Notifying those people about their irritating behaviour is ASK like being Don Quixote fighting the windmills. Just like trying to teach parents about computer security... smile ASK You can always re-thread messages (was implemented in some v3 of TB): ASK drag drop a message onto a thread to re-thread it, shift-drag to ASK un-thread it. Well, at least there's a manual way to fix TB's mess... -- Steve Vallière | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Threading Issues
Because different email software authors have different ideas on how to prefix replies (i.e.: * some add one re: and no more * others always ad an additional re:, sometimes resulting in subjects like re: re: re: re: News * and some, like TB, use a numbering scheme such as re[3]: ) threaded views a rarely correctly organized (except in groups like this one where everyone is using the same email program). I'd like to suggest/request an option for the threading model to either do whatever it is doing now (for those who like it) *OR* to have it skip over all known forms of the 're' prefixes. Perhaps even allowing the user to specify a regular expression for what constitutes the various types of 're' prefixes that are to be ignored when trying to match subject lines for threading. I'm attaching a screencap from one of the worst threaded folders I have as an example. There should be 11 threads but there are 25 visible (and more farther down the list). Also note that some of the threads contain messages from DIFFERENT THREADS! As the example shows, TB's current threading model is not usable when multiple correspondents all use different email software. Especially when the various packages all prefix replies differently. TB just gets totally lost and even starts making things up. -- Steve Vallière | th 3.85.02 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tb-thread-bug.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Threading Issues
Hello Steven, A reminder of what Steven P Vallière typed on: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 at 07:46:10 GMT -0400 SPV I'd like to suggest/request an option for the threading model SPV to either do whatever it is doing now (for those who like it) SPV *OR* to have it skip over all known forms of the 're' prefixes. Have you tried threading by reference. I find it works much better than threading by subject. Not perfect, as you say when differnent mailers are used, but usually better than threading by subject. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.85.03 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Threading Issues
Hello Steven P Vallière everyone else, on 27-Sep-2006 at 13:46 you (Steven P Vallière) wrote: threaded views a rarely correctly organized (except in groups like this one where everyone is using the same email program). Try to use threading by reference and subject (combined). Press ALT+5 in the messagelist to activate it, or by reference alone (ALT+1). Its not a cure-all, but usually better than threading by subject alone. Threading by reference fails when there are no references. Crappy webmailers like hotmail, aol and whatnot simply leave out these headers. Outlook 2003, when sending directly over an ISPs smtp server, even leaves out the message-id. You can't possibly thread these messages correctly. These mailers are RFC-ignorant, but as long as the RFC only says should and not must in the specs for references and in-reply-to headers (as well as the message-id), there's not much to do about it but re-thread the wrongly or un-threaded messages. I'd like to suggest/request an option for the threading model to either do whatever it is doing now (for those who like it) *OR* to have it skip over all known forms of the 're' prefixes. Perhaps even allowing the user to specify a regular expression for what constitutes the various types of 're' prefixes that are to be ignored when trying to match subject lines for threading. Add a supporting note to this wishlist item, please: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5152 Also note that some of the threads contain messages from DIFFERENT THREADS! If threads contain different messages, its usually not because TB makes an error here, but because the users are too ignorant. When they want to write a new message, they choose the reply function instead (because they are too lazy to type in the list address, for example) and most of them are completely unaware of these references headers - they don't know that, even if they change the subject, the reference to the original message is still part of the reply. Notifying those people about their irritating behaviour is like being Don Quixote fighting the windmills. You can always re-thread messages (was implemented in some v3 of TB): drag drop a message onto a thread to re-thread it, shift-drag to un-thread it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The trouble with today's individuals is that they're getting harder and harder to tell apart. -- Carl Antczak Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Threading
Hallo Stuart, On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:10:35 +0100GMT (10-8-2006, 15:10 , where I live), you wrote: SH It's also true that the mechanism it uses is different from the SH brain-dead client that most other people use, ie Outlook. SH WIBNI there was a use Outlook Threading Model option, ideally on a SH folder-by-folder basis? Outlook threads by subject, doesn't it? I don't believe so, no. It appears to use the Headers Thread-Topic and Thread-Index. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.81.10 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Apparently heard by a doctor during a colonoscopy: I usually don't do this on the first date. pgpYzASuwqsut.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Threading
It's true that the threading in TB! works nicely. It's also true that the mechanism it uses is different from the brain-dead client that most other people use, ie Outlook. WIBNI there was a use Outlook Threading Model option, ideally on a folder-by-folder basis? Or are you all going to tell me I'm missing something else? -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.81.10 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It is a good chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Bring your husbands. pgpTLu0TrIih7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Threading
Hallo Stuart, On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:10:35 +0100GMT (10-8-2006, 15:10 , where I live), you wrote: SH It's also true that the mechanism it uses is different from the SH brain-dead client that most other people use, ie Outlook. SH WIBNI there was a use Outlook Threading Model option, ideally on a SH folder-by-folder basis? Outlook threads by subject, doesn't it? You can select that for TB too, you can set the threading option in a view mode and set the view mode per folder. Or isn't that what you meant. -- Groetjes, Roelof Hi, I'm a tagline. When I grow up I'm gonna be a novel! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpOvo7rCRpAW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Threading
Hello Stuart Hemming everyone else, you waved the red flag for me, Stuart... :-) on 10-Aug-2006 at 15:10 you (Stuart Hemming) wrote: It's true that the threading in TB! works nicely. I don't think so. The mixed threading by reference and subject often fails and sorts messages wrong. This works better in other clients. WIBNI there was a use Outlook Threading Model option, ideally on a folder-by-folder basis? There is no Outlook Threading Model. Outlook uses its own proprietary Thread-Index header to sort conversations in a threaded view. This only works in Outlook, it is part of the Exchange transfer protocol. Its a proprietary MS invention. Apparently, it was too difficult for MS to implement threaded views using existing techniques with in-reply-to and references headers. Whatever. Whats worse is that Outlook 2003 does not create message IDs itself (and it does not break the RFC by doing so), this *should* be done by the mailserver if no msgid is present (which for example Exchange does), but many SMTP servers out there (I mean ISPs) don't do that. So, if you're trying to thread messages coming from Outlook, you'll fail with any other client but Outlook. And TB's threading mechanism fails on such messages indeed. The re-threading doesn't work propperly either. You can't re-thread an Outlook message into its appropriate position in a thread. I've discussed this in a BT note and was told it ain't possible any other way. And whats worse is that Outlook DOES create an in-reply-to header. Which means: if you are the originator of a message and an Outlook user replies to it, his message will be threaded correctly. But when you reply to his (or her) reply again, the references header contains only your message IDs (because the Outlook message has no msgid), and your reply ends in TBs threaded view under your very own originating message. It should be like this: TB message (#1) +-Outlook message (#2) +-TB message (#3) But TB shows it like this: TB message (#1) +-Outlook message (#2) +-TB message (#3) I'd be surprised if Outlook 2007 will behave more nicely, but I doubt it. And I don't feel the urge to try the Office 2007 beta. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) A judge is a law student who marks his own examination papers. -- H. L. Mencken Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: broken threading [was Re: (no subject)]
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 17-Dez-2005 at 04:35 you (Mary Bull) wrote: And they fixed my nickname/address book problem. A feature that I may be the only one here using. But I had missed it fiercely. Oh no, you're not. I'm also making use of this. I'm also still on .08 for obvious reasons. The betas after .08 feel like Its friday, I'm tired, it compiled, lets release it for me. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) 10 out of 5 doctors think it's OK to be schizofrenic. Current beta is 3.63.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: broken threading [was Re: (no subject)]
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, December 17, 2005, 5:21 AM, you wrote: And they fixed my nickname/address book problem. A feature that I may be the only one here using. But I had missed it fiercely. Oh no, you're not. I'm also making use of this. Oh, great! If you or anyone spoke on-list about it, besides MAU's comment that he hadn't known about the feature before my complaining post, I missed it. And I don't miss very much here--I try to read every post and mostly succeed at that. Thanks for saying now. I'm also still on .08 for obvious reasons. Me too. ;) The betas after .08 feel like Its friday, I'm tired, it compiled, lets release it for me. Oh, I hope that's not the scenario! :( -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
broken threading [was Re: (no subject)]
On Friday, December 16, 2005, 8:09:34 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: [-] (#0005456) %CURSOR=BODY macro was not functional Well, there is a little good news. This seems to actually be fixed. going back to .08 now. threading is also obviously broken, because I replied to 9val's announcement, and it isn't threaded there here. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: broken threading [was Re: (no subject)]
On Friday, December 16, 2005, 8:20:27 PM, Peter Ouwehand wrote: V3.63.13 is not fit for beta testing. fully concur. used it only long enough to confirm that they did fix the %cursor problem -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: broken threading [was Re: (no subject)]
Hello Dwight! On Friday, December 16, 2005, 9:03 PM, you wrote: V3.63.13 is not fit for beta testing. fully concur. used it only long enough to confirm that they did fix the %cursor problem And they fixed my nickname/address book problem. A feature that I may be the only one here using. But I had missed it fiercely. X-Rogue and the other customized macros are still broken, however. And in general the header functions are a mess. :( So I'm running v. 3.63.08. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re-Threading fails
Hello, this is a pretty old thread but I stumbled across the problem just now again... on 24-Sep-2005 at 11:46 I wrote: has anyone else occasional problems with the re-threading? I seem to be unable to attach a reply to a message that has no message ID. Maybe other factors apply, I don't know. I've filed a bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5294 Thanks for looking. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) All you need in life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure. -- Mark Twain Current beta is 3.62.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re-Threading fails
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else, on 25-Sep-2005 at 00:29 you (Roelof Otten) wrote: ASK IIRC correct the message-ID isn't absolutely mandatory, RFC2822 says that it should be inserted by the mta when the mua doesn't do so. That's rather mandatory, isn't it? Another day, another message... What I find in RFC 2822 is: .- | Though optional, every message SHOULD have a Message-ID: field. |Furthermore, reply messages SHOULD have In-Reply-To: and |References: fields as appropriate, as described below. `- Can you point me to the exact location of your findings about this? I have a similar topic open in the support forum of my domain/mail provider, would be nice to point them to the article. :-) I furthermore wonder how TB should behave when replying to messages without msg-id, especially if the message without msg-id already IS a reply, and does contain an in-reply-to header (thats what Outlook 2003 does, can you believe it?). As it is now, TB's picks the in-reply-to header and adds the content to the references header list - but it can't set a new in-reply-to header, because there's no msg-id to refer to. So, the threading information of the references list is broken, and viewing threads by references leads to a wrongly sorted message tree. Shouldn't it be omitted altogether? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If you see a man approaching you with the obvious intention of doing you good, you should run for your life. Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re-Threading fails
Hallo Alexander, On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:46:52 +0200GMT (24-9-2005, 12:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: ASK has anyone else occasional problems with the re-threading? I seem to be ASK unable to attach a reply to a message that has no message ID. Maybe other ASK factors apply, I don't know. Never had any, but my server inserts a Message-ID when it's missing. So I tested it. I exported a message to .msg deleted the msg-id with a text editor imported it in tbbeta tried to re-thread your message to it and it didn't work re-threaded your message to another message (that went fine), tried to re-thread your message afterwards to the one without msg-id and your message surfaced without a thread Then I copied the same message, but with msg-id to tbbeta and the threading went just fine, so I guess the problem is the msg-id. ASK (Outlook 2003, when sending directly via SMTP and not over Exchange server, ASK creates no message ID) Never noticed that, but now you mention it, it does so indeed. -- Groetjes, Roelof That was then, this is now. The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpUd79SvMNNz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re-Threading fails
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else, on 24-Sep-2005 at 23:46 you (Roelof Otten) wrote: Then I copied the same message, but with msg-id to tbbeta and the threading went just fine, so I guess the problem is the msg-id. Thank you for your tests. IIRC correct the message-ID isn't absolutely mandatory, but on the other hand, it is of course vital for threading. But then again, the re-threading was implemented for messages that fail normal threading. I wonder what to do now :-) ...report it as a bug, or curse at Microsoft? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Military justice is to justice what military music is to music. -- Groucho Marx Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re-Threading fails
Hallo Alexander, On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:09:44 +0200GMT (25-9-2005, 0:09 +0200, where I live), you wrote: ASK Thank you for your tests. You're welcome. ASK IIRC correct the message-ID isn't absolutely mandatory, RFC2822 says that it should be inserted by the mta when the mua doesn't do so. That's rather mandatory, isn't it? ASK but on the other hand, it is of course vital for threading. But ASK then again, the re-threading was implemented for messages that ASK fail normal threading. I wonder what to do now :-) ... That's easy. ASK report it as a bug, or curse at Microsoft? Both. And complain with your ISP that their smtp server doesn't include a message-id. -- Groetjes, Roelof Blessed our young they will inherit our national debt. The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpHdvaoBqWW7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re-Threading fails
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else, on 25-Sep-2005 at 00:29 you (Roelof Otten) wrote: ASK IIRC correct the message-ID isn't absolutely mandatory, RFC2822 says that it should be inserted by the mta when the mua doesn't do so. That's rather mandatory, isn't it? OK, I see. ASK report it as a bug, or curse at Microsoft? Both. :) And complain with your ISP that their smtp server doesn't include a message-id. If I understand this correctly, any mta that finds a message that does not contain a msg-id should add one. The problematic message I found went from a friends computer with Outlook2003 thru the smtp of his freemail provider, to a listmailer, then to my inbox. That makes three mta's that did not add the msg-id. Looks like a lot of work. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The first thing every child learns is that he is not the entire universe. -- Robert Silverberg Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP threading on receiving new messages
On Wednesday, August 31, 2005 at 2:16:27 PM [GMT -0500], Martin Webster wrote: Messages aren't threaded when receiving messages into local cache Threading only occurs after switching between folders. See attached images. Possibly won't notice this if you keep TB! open all day long. Can anyone confirm? Confirmed. I'd be reading TBBETA. My own post arrives and it's not threaded. It's when I move to another folder and get back, that my message now threads with the others. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.60.06 Forerunner (Beta) System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- Oxymoron: Bosnian Cease-Fire pgpWFYDUSqFvP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.60.07 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP threading on receiving new messages
Hello Curtis Michael, On 01 September 2005, 10:47 you wrote: Messages aren't threaded when receiving messages into local cache Threading only occurs after switching between folders. See attached images. Possibly won't notice this if you keep TB! open all day long. Can anyone confirm? Confirmed. I'd be reading TBBETA. My own post arrives and it's not threaded. It's when I move to another folder and get back, that my message now threads with the others. I've created a bug track entry: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5076. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 He that complies against his will Is of his own opinion still. SAMUEL BUTLER ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.60.07 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.60.07 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP threading on receiving new messages
Hello tbbeta, Messages aren't threaded when receiving messages into local cache Threading only occurs after switching between folders. See attached images. Possibly won't notice this if you keep TB! open all day long. Can anyone confirm? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. STANISLAV LEE ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.60.03 Forerunner (Beta) IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2)attachment: Capture2.jpg attachment: Capture1.jpg Current beta is 3.60.07 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP threading on receiving new messages
Hi Martin, Am Wednesday, August 31, 2005, 9:16:27 PM, schreibst du: Messages aren't threaded when receiving messages into local cache Threading only occurs after switching between folders. See attached images. Possibly won't notice this if you keep TB! open all day long. Can anyone confirm? Confirmed. Michael -- Nbg, 31.08.2005, 21:22 TheBat! 3.60.07 - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Abrüsten, sonst knallt's! PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! pgprOVGUdGwSS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.60.07 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
End of Vili threading problems
Just let you know, I have changed to gmail :) -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: End of Vili threading problems
Hello Vili, Vili wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Just let you know, I have changed to gmail :) Thank you. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: End of Vili threading problems
Howdy Vili, Friday, July 1, 2005, 12:55:58 PM, Vili wrotened: V Just let you know, I have changed to gmail :) ok i'll try and remember -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.5.36 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM Live within your income, even if you have to borrow to do so. Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wrong threading (Was: Re: Distributed AS IS)
Hello MAU. --On 15 June 2005 01:33 +0200 you wrote about Wrong threading (Was: Re: Distributed AS IS): Can you or anybody explain what happened here? Don't look at me, it's nothing to do with me this time. I have to admit to sporting a wry, almost smug smile though when I see you quote the headers :) -- Tony. M pgpbuIAQfmLmC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/