Re: SpamPal and Voyager
Hallo Richard, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:50:46 +0100GMT (28-11-2005, 9:50 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RW Is it possible to have SpamPal working on the USB stick with Voyager or RW is it a no no as settings are stored in the Registry? When spampal needs to be installed with settings in the registry it's no good idea to use it with Voyager. -- Groetjes, Roelof Power corrupts. Absolute power is kinda neat, though... The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpOqLavrBUHB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager away from home
Hallo Richard, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:47:02 +0100GMT (28-11-2005, 9:47 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RW I am now going to show my ignorance! Don't worry, happens to all of us. RW When I go back to the UK for 2 weeks at Christmas and take my USB RW stick with Voyager on it, is there anything specific that I have RW to do when going on line from another ADSL link (BT Internet in RW this case) or does it work exactly the same as plugging it in here RW at home with my Wanadoo connection? Nothing special, just make sure that Voyager doesn't think it needs to use a dial-up connection: Options - Network Admin - 'Network' tab - LAN or manual connection This is just to make sure, over here (The Netherlands) we've got ADSL modems that act like Routers (internet via LAN) and those that act as dial-up modems. I don't know your connection type nor those of your relatives, so just take care that there is a connection before you use Voyager. -- Groetjes, Roelof Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpeFjWWstAgs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icon still shows you've replied after deleting
Hallo Richard, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:53:12 +0100GMT (28-11-2005, 8:53 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RW I think you misunderstand what I wrote in my original post. Reply to a RW message and put it in the Outbox. It doesn't matter whether you save as RW draft or just save it. I think it's just a bit too much to ask from TB to keep the link between the saved message/draft and the original message and wait till you decide what to with it. When you save it to the outbox, the original is marked, that's the best moment I guess. When you want that to happen on sending, TB needs to search your message base for the message you replied to and that'll take more time for sending, especially for those with tens or hundreds of thousands messages. -- Groetjes, Roelof Function call to load Windows: here_piggy_piggy_piggy_piggy The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpK9SDRKAYNp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Folder template configuration suggestion
Hallo Alexander, On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:08:21 +0100GMT (29-11-2005, 22:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ASK Would anyone support this if I filed a wish for that? Yes! -- Groetjes, Roelof !sdohtem noitpyrcne devorppa-tnemnrevog troppus I The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpj7n6wBptq7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) is now available
Hallo Peter, On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:30:51 +0100GMT (30-11-2005, 20:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PH All 8 messages for tbbeta sat in the inbox rather than in the tbbeta folder PH after importing. Can't confirm. What condition are you using? I'm using: Header field | Reply-to | contains | tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com It's an account filter -- Groetjes, Roelof Encyclopedias for sale. Never used. I know everything. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgphgjataL3rJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) is now available
Hallo Vili, On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:27:50 -0500GMT (30-11-2005, 23:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Header field | Reply-to | contains | tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com V Just a note: why the Recipient contains tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com is not V good for youy? That's easy. When a message is crossposted to tbot, then the recipient contains both tbbeta and tbot, but I'd like a copy in the folders for both lists, therefore I'm using a header that's being added by the list server. (Like Reply-To, List-ID, etc) I use the Reply-To, because that's used by all lists I'm subscribed too. Uniformity makes easy maintenance. -- Groetjes, Roelof I have seen the future and it is now the past. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpASScZtVDrO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: Voyager spec...)
Hallo Graham, On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 12:47:58 + (UTC)GMT (2-12-2005, 13:47 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GF What am I missing? GF Graham moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Graham. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Bother! said Pooh, and he twit filtered his moderator. pgpZKIEXXSdmM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager spec...
Hallo Graham, On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 12:47:58 + (UTC)GMT (2-12-2005, 13:47 +0100, where I live), you wrote: GF b) If the answer to a) is no not really - then why bother with it. Why not GF just put the INI file features into mainstream TB! and have this extra GF (useful) feature in the main product? Here we're getting to the same old discussion. Using an ini file means you've got to store it somewhere. Find me a location for that ini file that doesn't force different users to use the same settings (so you can't use the programdir like Voyager), doesn't store it in documents and settings (because that won't work with the Voyager idea) and still makes it possible to put my message base wherever I want. For a multi user environment on one system the registry is the most logical place to store settings per user. For a one multi-pc setup like voyager it's the programdir. -- Groetjes, Roelof Fatal System Error: (A)bort (R)etry (G)et OS/2 The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpVxukjGtRNt.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.62.14 (and maybe later): filter based on address books presence
Hallo Vili, On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 20:35:32 +0100GMT (3-12-2005, 20:35 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V When I make a new filter and the condition is: Address Book V (extended), selecting any Address book, that returns some complicated V ID numbers to that editbox that shows the selected address books... Confirmed. V Is it a bug? Don't know. I'm using OTFE and maybe it's just a translation of the name. (Just guessing...) It doesn't keep it from functioning though. -- Groetjes, Roelof XT Nostalgia? Run Windows The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpkNTrz91rL1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - mobility?
Hallo Nick, On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 09:18:37 -0600GMT (3-12-2005, 16:18 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ND I have Voyager up and running but when I took my USB drive and plugged ND it into another computer and then ran Voyager all I got was a plethora ND of error messages that it couldn't open folders as it was looking for ND a drive letter that didn't exist. Can't confirm. Just used the latest version of Voyager on two systems. first one had it running from N: and the second had it running from J: No problem whatsoever. Are you trying to run a plug-in from voyager? Or do your templates call files from disk? -- Groetjes, Roelof It takes about ten years to get used to how old you are. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpL33WqIcxlJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A TBV preference question
Hallo Claude, On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 16:26:03 +0100GMT (3-12-2005, 16:26 +0100, where I live), you wrote: CRWhen we select to check one of several checkboxes on the CR preferences/applications/Associate The Bat! Voyager with specific file CR types/URLs, their state are not saved in the CR global.ini setting file, why ? Haven't tried that. But I think that whole tab should be removed from Voyager. When I'm using a mobile mail client, I don't want to change the settings for the PC I'm using at that moment. It's a bit ridiculous to associate file types and the like with a program that you're taking from that computer right away. The page is a bug, not the fact that doesn't do anything with the settings. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof How wise are they that are but fools in love! Cooke The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp4VQ6tupKad.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - QuickTemplate Error
Hallo Nick, On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 09:34:15 -0600GMT (3-12-2005, 16:34 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ND When I try to add/edit a quick template I get the following error: ND Ancestor for 'TBXPopupMenu' not found. What version are you using? I had that error while using TBV 3.63.2.0 -- Groetjes, Roelof Don't worry, I'm gong t bckup tdæ!%#~% The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpEWIzmnDtyW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - mobility?
Hallo Vili, On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 07:05:39 +0100GMT (4-12-2005, 7:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V You and beta testers mentioned that it still stores something in the V registry... If it is totally mobile, why does it store anything in the V registry? Because it's not fully rewritten yet. At least that would be my assumption. -- Groetjes, Roelof As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp8moIrFsclC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.62.14 (and maybe later): Account, Properties, Settings, Detailed log
Hallo Vili, On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 10:01:56 +0100GMT (4-12-2005, 10:01 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V So, what is the checkbox in the subject good for? I don't have a Account - Properties - Settings - Detailed log Do you mean Account - Properties - Options - Verbose log? Without this enabled you get logs like this: ,- [ ] | 4-12-2005, 10:05:11: FETCH - Received message from Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 3945 bytes, subject: Re: Voyager - mobility? | 4-12-2005, 10:05:11: FETCH - received message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3945 bytes) (processed by TBBeta lijst), URL: msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] `- With verbose enabled you something like this: ,- [ ] | 4-12-2005, 10:12:00: FETCH - Received message from Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 3723 bytes, subject: Re: HTML editor in 3.62.14 | 4-12-2005, 10:12:00: ANTIVIRUS - Examining the incoming POP3 mail message for viruses | 4-12-2005, 10:12:00: ANTIVIRUS - No virus found in the examined object | 4-12-2005, 10:12:00: FETCH - Received message from [EMAIL PROTECTED], tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com to tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com, encrypted: No, size: 3723, date: zondag 4 december 2005 10:07:34, subject: Re: HTML editor in 3.62.14 `- It's a pity that enabling this option means that the log doesn't mention the used filter anymore. -- Groetjes, Roelof Everyone is entitled to my opinion. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpOYhveN43D6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - mobility?
Hallo Vili, On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 10:05:22 +0100GMT (4-12-2005, 10:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V That was my assumption, too. The question wanted to reflect to the V opposite of mobile use vs. registry use, while TBV says it is mobile V while still using the reg. It doesn't really need the things stored in the registry, it functions perfectly when you delete them everytime. -- Groetjes, Roelof I was the kid next door's imaginary friend. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpVFJz59hp8z.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - Filters
Hallo Nick, On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 10:27:00 -0600GMT (4-12-2005, 17:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ND Can anyone tell me what file the filter information (specifically common ND filters) is kept in for Voyager? account.erb (.srb for TB without OTFE) Common filters are stored in the mail directory, account filters are stored in the account directories. -- Groetjes, Roelof When you go to the market, use your eyes, not your ears. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpsMbCh8jlMY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - mobility?
Hallo Nick, On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 08:27:27 -0600GMT (4-12-2005, 15:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ND In looking at the home directory in the configuration for my accounts ND it references I:\TB\mail\gmail. Might that be a directory you specified in one of your templates, for a cookie file or something? -- Groetjes, Roelof It is easier to catch flies with honey than with vinegar. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpXfdza7o9Qv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - I'm crying Uncle.
Hallo Nick, On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:09:42 -0600GMT (5-12-2005, 18:09 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ND When trying to restore a backup from my main TB! program Voyager ND insists on writing the directories using the original path. Can't confirm that. Not the first time I restored a backup and not just now. Created a new instance of Voyager (this time on my local drive and not my USB drive) and restored my weekly backup. Everything went ok. ND So in my original mail folder I end up with all the normal files ND along with encrypted folders along side. If I make the original ND path unreadable all I get is errors in Voyager telling me it can't ND write to it - which it shouldn't be doing anyway! So you weren't using OTFE, that's a difference with me. Did you have all of your accounts stored in the same mail directory or were they in different locations? ND I have not been able to get any common filters copied over to it. Can't comment on that as I don't use those. ND If I just copy the folders from my main program over to the USB drive ND and try to point Voyager to use that as the home for a new account it ND doesn't recognize any of the content in those folders and just creates ND a new empty account. I guess that could be because of the unencrypted format of your current accounts, because that's what I did for test purposes just now. You should realize though that Voyager needs the account directory to be stored in a subdirectory MAIL of the programdir. I tried it and got the message that a message base for Secure Bat! was encountered in the MAIL directory nd that it had a different encryption key (not true, same key) and subsequenty it was being opened just fine. ND On some fresh installs I would end up with a program that wouldn't ND allow any additions to filters. Any changes I made were lost between ND sessions. What version did you use? All of my tests were run with the first voyager.zip extracted and the latest beta put on top of it. While running these tests I finally came up with two instances of Voyager installed on the same HDD, this didn't cause me any troubles. What I also tried was to run two instances of Voyager (from different locations) but that didn't work. Running Voyager and TB at the same time causes me no problem whatsoever. -- Groetjes, Roelof It is easier to catch flies with honey than with vinegar. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpiXqqS3LhEM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager threads
Hallo Matt, On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:59:05 -0800GMT (5-12-2005, 17:59 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MT Not sure if it's been mentioned yet (couldn't tell through all of the MT Voyager related chatter) but now that Voyager seems to be a hot topic, MT shouldn't we create a VoyagerBETA list? Don't think that's necessary. I guess there's a lot of Voyager related stuff just now, but that's just starters trouble. IIRC Max told us that TBV was only supposed to be released with public releases of TB, so when Ritlabs has a decent release for TBV it should be business as usual. -- Groetjes, Roelof 4 aces beats full house. Smith Wesson beats 4 aces. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpUjSl2cH5C9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.63.07 some questions
Hallo Henk, On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:43:40 +0100GMT (5-12-2005, 16:43 +0100, where I live), you wrote: HDB How do I get other languages than English to work within Voyager. I HDB tried to place a copy of thebat.lng in the main directory and in the HDB maildirectory but no... Well, you were supposed to extract the original voyager.zip and that would have given you voyagerlng, an SSC5132.dll and a speller subdirectory in TBV's programdir. HDB Are there intentions of implementing GPG (like Mobility Email)? Because HDB now I have to install that on my USB-stick as well. I hope so, because I really need something like that. -- Groetjes, Roelof Oops. - Most feared word in Nuclear Physics and Brain Surgery... The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpuMSYS6GotW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - I'm crying Uncle.
Hallo Nick, On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:10:28 -0600GMT (5-12-2005, 20:10 +0100, where I live), you wrote: I guess that could be because of the unencrypted format of your current accounts, ND Probably. So... what's the trick to converting to OTFE in Pro? Unfortunately converting to OTFE almost is like switched to Voyager. However here it comes. Create an internal back-up with TB, including everything. Now copy your complete message base to a safe location (that's not needed for the transition, but just in case) Export the TB registry settings to a safe location (The full HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! tree) Uninstall TB Delete your message base (The uninstall shouldn't do that, but just in case it does you already have got your backup) Install TB pro On running it'll ask you whether you want to use OTFE, answer yes and pick a password (that's needed for en/decryption) Next it'll ask whether you want to create a new account or restore from backup, select the backup option and restore everything. Note that this won't restore any spam dictionaries you might have put in your mail directory too or cookie files, but basically this restores and encrypts everything. You've got to close and open TB again before it loads the restored registry settings. When it doesn't work as you want, uninstall TB again. Delete the message base Install TB, but don't run it. Copy your original message base back to its old location Restore TB's old registry settings (just open the exported file) Start TB and everything is back to normal. One note: When you're using a restricted user account in Windows, you can't (un)install TB, so you've got to that that from an admin account. This means that TB's registry settings in the account you're using TB won't be deleted with uninstalling it. (Makes kind of sense) So you've got to delete those settings via regedit. Yes, this means that it's possible to run an encrypted message base in one user account under Windows and plain under an other account. (Yes, I'm doing that, my guest account has a plain message base) -- Groetjes, Roelof Cleanliness is next to clean-limbed, in the dictionary. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpw9rILP4qs3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Long standing bug in scheduler still not fixed
Hallo tbbeta, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3157 When you create a new event in the scheduler with a message that's supposed to be sent to all linked contacts, TB creates a new message all right, but addresses it to Max 0, Stefan 0, Alexander 0, 9Val 0, etc. It inserts 0 for every address, so the Rit-guys didn't an invitation for my birthday party. It would be nice if they finally could get it to function properly. After all the issue has been submitted to bugtrack on 20 June last year and it still hasn't been assigned to anybody. Can anybody confirm this bug and add a note? After all, what's the use of a scheduler in a mail client when you can't schedule mails. -- Groetjes, Roelof Sometimes, when it's quiet, you can hear the brain cells die. --- SLR The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpk5Uxu70GPk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Again: lost folders in folder-list!
Hallo Martin, On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:27:55 +0100GMT (6-12-2005, 10:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MS I'm running TB Prof with OTFE, so folder names are encrypted on the hard MS disk. Yuck, try to encrypt their names. MS Also Shift-Crtl-Alt-L does not work (but this is for IMAP only, MS right?). It's supposed to work for pop accounts too, but you need to have the focus on the account tree when using it. Never tried it with OTFE though. Okay, I tried. Deleted a folder, kept the message base intact and pressed Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L and didn't get it back. MS 1) Folders are missing. That's bad MS 2) With over 100 folders I don't even know what folders are missing. That's even worse. Well, I've got this idea. Create a backup with TB. Install Voyager. Restore your backup into Voyager with the same password, that's what I did and guess what. The directory names are the same. Presuming that TB doesn't backup unknown folders, you've got to concentrate on the folder names that are lacking Voyager. BTW You don't need an USB device to install Voyager, a directory on your harddisk will do fine. -- Groetjes, Roelof I love my country; it's my government that scares me. The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpgqHQnnEWQZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager cookies
Hallo Nick, On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 13:41:13 -0600GMT (6-12-2005, 20:41 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ND Is there any way to refer to a text file for cookies in Voyager ND without specifying a drive designation? %ProgramDir -- Groetjes, Roelof In God we trust. All others we monitor... A Naval Intelligence The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpNq3IszIvH2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager cookies
Hallo Nick, On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:59:13 -0600GMT (6-12-2005, 22:59 +0100, where I live), you wrote: %ProgramDir ND Odd. It works fine when called directly, but doesn't seem to work when ND nested and called via a %QINCLUDE macro. Could you specify the way that you used it? Over here it runs just fine when called from a nested QT. You don't mean you tried to use it by calling an external template, would you? After all you'd need the %Include macro for that... -- Groetjes, Roelof Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy of Windows95. - Satan The Bat! Voyager 3.63.07 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpWodJ9nZWPa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: SMTP/POP3 Port Numbers for Gmail?
Hallo Nick, On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 11:10:47 -0700GMT (9-12-2005, 19:10 +0100, where I live), you wrote: NA Anyone know what the SMTP and POP3 ports numbers are to configure TB for NA use with GMail? TB is not one of the Mail Clients listed in Google Mail NA with all the port numbers to use. Use he same port numbers as listed for OE. -- Groetjes, Roelof Being right too soon is socially unacceptable. -- Heinlein The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgphdWaTFdRIo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.09 and the Outbox Protection Feature
Hallo Jernej, On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:43:59 +0100GMT (11-12-2005, 23:43 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JS Invalid pointer operation. Confirmed With OTFE and POP3 -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vegi. (I came, I saw, I had a salad) The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpofzwzgKqR4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.09 and the Outbox Protection Feature
Hallo Roelof, On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:32:51 +0100GMT (12-12-2005, 1:32 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JS Invalid pointer operation. RO Confirmed With OTFE and POP3 Though the same voyager versions runs fine on the same system and practically the same message base. -- Groetjes, Roelof Power corrupts. Absolute power is kinda neat, though... The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp2MiXChJgdn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.63.09: You cannot leave To: field blank
Hallo Miguel, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:58:13 +0100GMT (13-12-2005, 1:58 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M Please look at attached GIF, I got this warning when clicking Send. M Annoying, ain't it? Personally I prefer the old text: --- Confirm --- The subject field is empty. Though this field can be left empty, it is recommended to type something in there because it shows your respect to the Netiquette. Do you wish to continue? --- Yes No Cancel --- -- Groetjes, Roelof The Innocent, the Eager, and the Doomed. The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpyJzBsRlD8h.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Reply for new thread (was: Voyager Versions)
Hallo Paul, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:46:33 -0500GMT (13-12-2005, 12:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PVN Is there a 3.63.08 version of Voyager available? If so, can you PVN provide a link? moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Paul. ' Please don't use reply to start a new thread. Your question has been posted at the bottom of an unrelated topic. The Bat! is a threading mail client. See View | View threads by | Reference to see where it ended up. The result is that it will only be seen by those reading that thread instead of by all users. I recommend that you post your question again using a New message if you want to see more replies to your query. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Oops : A technical term widely used by sysops and moderators pgptfh0TFgODy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager Versions
Hallo Paul, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:46:33 -0500GMT (13-12-2005, 12:46 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PVN Is there a 3.63.08 version of Voyager available? No. -- Groetjes, Roelof 4 aces beats full house. Smith Wesson beats 4 aces. The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpUEdindcctV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available
Hallo 9Val, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:51:49 +0200GMT (14-12-2005, 21:51 +0100, where I live), you wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Well, it's running over here. The previous version didn't. -- Groetjes, Roelof Taglines: bumper stickers for computer nerds. The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpRNB1D0t6Gu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available
Hallo Jernej, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:02:21 +0100GMT (14-12-2005, 22:02 +0100, where I live), you wrote: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: JS Invalid pointer operation. JS Are you planning to fix this at all? They did for me. I couldn't run the previous either, but this one works. What's the difference between your and my config? (see sig) -- Groetjes, Roelof The Innocent, the Eager, and the Doomed. The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpc3CmrmRetc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Outbox bug that over-rides macros for OpenPGP in Address Book templates
Hallo Mary, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:17:25 -0600GMT (14-12-2005, 21:17 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB It is about the long-standing bug in the Outbox behavior that causes MB it to over-ride Address Book template macros for OpenPGP and instead MB uses the setting in Account/Properties/Options/Message-editor. That's no bug. That's because macros are only executed when you start to edit the message body. When you edit the text and afterwards you alter the To: header you're not complaining that the macro driven salutation isn't adapted? Same as when you use the %Attachments macro, it's only used when you start to edit the text, when you add an attachment later, then your text is adapted. This is the same only more so. To alter this behaviour you should need macros that are executed at sending, at saving, etc. The %NoUsePGP macro sets an editor property, but as soon as you close that editor your properties get lost and on opening a new editor the account settings are used. Basically what you ask for is a complete new macro engine. That's no bugfix, but a new feature. Mind you, I don't mind such a new feature, after all I run into this myself every once in a while, but add it to the wishlist and not as a bug, because that means that you don't understand TB's macro system. -- Groetjes, Roelof It is dangerous to confuse children with angels. The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpfpYwNCH9HS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available
Hallo Jernej, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:29:49 +0100GMT (14-12-2005, 22:29 +0100, where I live), you wrote: What's the difference between your and my config? (see sig) JS A lot Yep, about everything, I see. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Hey, I'm not paranoid! Which of my enemies told you this? The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpslmQwA3JHy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Outbox bug that over-rides macros for OpenPGP in Address Book templates
Hallo Mary, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:48:16 -0600GMT (14-12-2005, 22:48 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB Well, I have been writing about this for two days, ever since it Yes, I noticed, but I didn't have the time to reply to it before. MB In my logical, commonsense amateur view, the Outbox should respect MB the address in the To Field and Address Book templates should prevail MB over Account templates. Listen carefully what you're saying now. You're talking about address book templates and account templates, but it's no account template that's bugging you, it's either a general setting. When you're opening a written message there is no template that can be interpreted, because when that would happen, you'd lose the text you'd already written. You can't have half of the template to be interpreted again and the other half to be neglected. MB So, whether it's a failure in design or a bug in the design workings, MB it is something I deal with--not every once in a while, as you do--but MB every day. In that case I can only suggest that you finish your messages without saving them as draft. You could change the general setting when it's bothering you that much, but I guess that would mean that when you're writing a message you don't want to sign, will prompt you for a signature. MB It is not a new feature that I'm asking for. Yes, it is a new feature. Just because you don't understand what's causing the issue, doesn't mean it's a bug. MB It is for the MicroEd to work when called from the Outbox the same as MB it does when called from Write a message to this address or when MB called from a Reply button or Reply shortcut key. No, you don't want that, because that would mean that you'd start with an empty message and you don't want that. -- Groetjes, Roelof Wizard's Guild Parking Only: Violators will be Toad. The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpuKlZXgNFqN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: HTML use (was: X-Rogue is broken; Roguemoticons not displayed)
Hallo Roland, On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:12:01 +0100GMT (15-12-2005, 15:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RB Hi Peter, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Roland. ' Please do not send HTML messages to the list except for purposes of testing. While the merits of HTML are debatable, and have been discussed numerous times on the lists, the list rules prohibit HTML e-mail. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Write complaints about moderator rules between the two lines: =. pgpCJPJ2YPjmC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: HTML use
Hallo Roland, On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:41:33 +0100GMT (15-12-2005, 17:41 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Please do not send HTML messages to the list except for purposes of RB Sorry for that! I didn't find anything to make special settings for newsgroups! It RB cannot be that I have always to change settings for private mails and RB mails to mailinglists! If I want to point out something, I use normally RB an other color! Or is there any possibility and I have not seen it? You could use AB templates for mailinglists with these macros: %SETEDITOR=1 for Plain text Microed %SETEDITOR=2 for Plain text Windows editor %SETEDITOR=3 for HTML / Plain %SETEDITOR=4 for HTML only I've never tried them myself as I don't use HTML. (That makes the frowning part as moderator a little bit easier. g) But Marek Mikus told the list that they were working. -- Groetjes, Roelof Second star to the right, and straight on 'til morning. - Kirk The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpVfiZc4mU8y.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.63.13 is totally UNUSABLE for me
Hallo Miguel, On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:29:57 +0100GMT (17-12-2005, 0:29 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M Back all the way to 3.62.14 Confirmed. 3.63.13 inserts the following blank headers: X-Mailer: Organization: X-Priority: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: -- Groetjes, Roelof As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpu9nC99VOOh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Suggestion: Option for Basic/Full menus
Hallo Miguel, On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:09:51 +0100GMT (17-12-2005, 12:09 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M Based on the suggestion/wish in 5475 I think it would be useful for M novice users and users evaluating TB, if there was an option (i.e in M Configuration toolbar or Options menu) to easily switch from a set of M Basic or Reduced menus to a Full set including all available menu M options. I guess that could be implemented easily, just by providing a couple of tbuser.def's that you can switch between and a menu option that enables you to switch. The difficult part is what to exclude in the easy config and what not. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows: written entirely by and for blondes The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpvdY9eVODVc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Voyager mail base with Tb Pro
Hallo Claude, On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:15:04 +0100GMT (18-12-05, 16:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR I have TB Pro and Tb Voyager and I would like to know, as TBV mail base CR is encrypted, if it is possible, on the same machine to install both CR products and access tbv mailbase with tb pro and how to set up tb pro CR in order to do it : do we have to use OTFE or should we have to specify CR some special settings ... ? I suppose it's possible to do what you're suggesting, but I'm not sure whether that would make any sense. Remember that it's most likely that you install TBV on a mobile piece of equipment, like a USB stick. When you want to access that stick with TB pro, you'd need to have that stick in your pc and why should you use TB as you've TBV available on the same stick. Apart from that, when you're stick isn't available your copy of TB pro will generate errors, as it hasn't (all of) it's accounts available. However, as I've already done the opposite from what you're suggesting (accessing a backup from my encrypted TB message base with a test copy of TBV) I'm sure that you can convince TB pro to access a TBV message base. Provided of course that you're using the same password on both setups, because the encryption is password dependant. -- Groetjes, Roelof The shortest distance between two Points is a BossNode. The Bat! Voyager 3.63.07 (BETA) Windows 98 4.10 Build A 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current beta is 3.63.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Rethreading doesn't function when treading on ref+sub
Hallo tbbeta, When threading on ref+sub I can't re-thread. (I only tried adding messages to a thread) I've tried this with 3.62.14 and 3.63.14 and it doesn't work for either of them. When threading on references only it's working just fine. Any confirmations without POP3, OTFE an WinXP? -- Groetjes, Roelof The longer the title, the less important the job. The Bat! 3.63.14 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpwtpPGlIXru.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hallo Maxim, On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:43:38 +0200GMT (19-12-2005, 14:43 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MM Your ideas about this help are very welcome. The full alphabetic list of macros isn't complete. SetEditor is missing. -- Groetjes, Roelof I was the kid next door's imaginary friend. The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpufMIFOzw0L.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TBV 3.63.15 still writes to the registry
Hallo tbbeta, Well, the subject says it all. Voyager still writes to the registry. can't think of why -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vedi, Vomitus. (I came, I saw, it made me sick) The Bat! Voyager 3.63.15 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: Sorting folders?)
Hallo paul, On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:20:26 +GMT (19-12-2005, 23:20 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PM existence of such an option? PM Thanks, PM Paul PM PM Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out paul. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #2: Policy is whatever we say it is. pgphPlccJM81Q.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sorting folders?
Hallo paul, On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:20:26 +GMT (19-12-2005, 23:20 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PM I could have sworn that I saw an option somewhere, maybe on a PM right-click menu when clicking on the folder tree, which allowed PM you to sort all of the folders in the tree alphabetically. Maybe PM it's my imagination, can anyone confirm the existence of such an option? Click on the 'Name' bar in the account tree pane and you'll get it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Ventilate (I came, I saw, I opened a window) The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpt7rE0x714G.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sorting folders?
Hallo paul, On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:36:06 +GMT (19-12-2005, 23:36 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Click on the 'Name' bar in the account tree pane and you'll get it. PM Thanks for the reply, I've clicked on the name bar as well, PM however there seems to be no Sort option there either. Try a left click. -- Groetjes, Roelof Never, ever, pinch a sorceress on the butt. ribit The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpad8wJflzkL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Christmas Edition
Hallo Dwight, On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:03:34 -0600GMT (21-12-2005, 19:03 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DAC Happy to report that the MSI ran fine here, since we never got to test DAC it. Confirmed. -- Groetjes, Roelof KEYBOARD - An instrument used for entering errors into a computer. The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpRpXW2rBONW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Christmas Edition
Hallo Henk, On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:10:25 +0100GMT (21-12-2005, 20:10 +0100, where I live), you wrote: HDB I wonder if there comes one for Voyager as well? So do I. I've given the site a thorough search, but maybe they don't think TBV finalised, with all the registry entries it creates... -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 010 Reserved for future mistakes by our developers The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp2tXWWf0lqJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.64
Hallo Maxim, On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:20:22 +0200GMT (22-12-2005, 1:20 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MM Voyager 3.64 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install.exe Too bad you can't find it straight from the menu pages. A link from products/voyager could come in handy. Unless you still consider this a beta. (Though it doesn't say that on startup) MM Unfortunately, 3.63.15 did contain an error in the activation MM procedure, and if you've activated that version, you will need to activate it again. Confirmed. -- Groetjes, Roelof How wise are they that are but fools in love! Cooke The Bat! Voyager 3.64.01 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.64
Hallo Roelof, On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:34:53 +0100GMT (22-12-2005, 2:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM Voyager 3.64 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install.exe RO Too bad you can't find it straight from the menu pages. A link from RO products/voyager could come in handy. Unless you still consider this a RO beta. (Though it doesn't say that on startup) The writing to the registry that this version does, argues for it still being a beta. -- Groetjes, Roelof I'd Have Written Sooner But I Thought I Owed You Money. The Bat! Voyager 3.64.01 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: Feature request for the next version)
Hallo Claude, On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:48:25 +0100GMT (22-12-2005, 20:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR Greetings, CR Claude Renaud moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Claude. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #4: Warnings are for wimps, cut links! pgpyZ4jh6azUd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ESC for closing Filter message list tab and selecting All message list tab stopped working
Hallo Marek, On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:06:13 +0100GMT (22-12-2005, 16:06 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MM When I enter text to Quick Search and hit Enter, messages are MM filtered, new tab in message list pane is created. When I used ESC in MM previous versions, tab was closed and All tab was selected, so all MM messages were displayed. Now ESC stopped working. Can't confirm. -- Groetjes, Roelof Evolution: God's way of issuing updates. The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpfBtTKDT8bN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Retrieving lost registration information
Hallo Claude, On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:40:15 +0100GMT (26-12-2005, 8:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: CR I'm a registered user of TB Pro. CR I have the registration key but unfortunately I lost the corresponding CR order number and I'm unable to find the way to reobtain it. CR Could someone tell me how to proceed ? CR I would like to retrieve this information to install the latest CR version of tbv... Use 7 as order number, use the matching activation key to activate TBV and afterwards use your registration key for TB pro to register TBV. -- Groetjes, Roelof Fatal System Error: (A)bort (R)etry (G)et OS/2 The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpvf7DpvAopD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Retrieving lost registration information
Hallo Claude, On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:10:36 +0100GMT (26-12-2005, 9:10 +0100, where I live), you wrote: CR Do you know how could I retrieve my complete registration information ? You could send a friendly enquiring mail to the folks at Ritlabs... -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows 95: Making Windows work just like a Mac did 10 years ago! The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpBwzUYv3K0J.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Jumping headers when filling the TO field
Hallo Alexander, On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:40:58 +0100GMT (27-12-2005, 11:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ASK OK, I found it. Its the font size that matters. ASK Tahoma 8, 9 and 10 are no problem. Tahoma size 11 makes the lines jump up ASK down by one pixel. Confirmed with Tahoma size 12, I didn't experience the problem with size 8 (the default, I guess) -- Groetjes, Roelof Ga Naar WINDOWS 95. Ga Niet Langs DOS. Ontvang Geen f 2,- The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Jumping headers when filling the TO field
Hallo Thomas, On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:27:18 +0700GMT (27-12-2005, 13:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TF I have nothing against the drop-down, but it seems to take a second or TF two to appear. That's slow. Only here? After I've typed the second letter of the recipient the drop down list appears on the count of two. It may have something to do with the size of the AB (1147 entries over here) and the speed of the system. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, vidi, vacuum, (I came, I saw--nothing.) The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpwovgWSoW04.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message from 1899 on TBUDL?
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:29:11 +0100GMT (27-12-2005, 18:29 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PM I get a strange display of this message on TBUDL: PM mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PM Can anyone take a look at this message and tell me how it is displayed PM there? Shows just fine over here. Apart from the server added headers I saw no differences in the header source. -- Groetjes, Roelof A vote on the tally sheet is worth two in the box. The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDbihZYpdLC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message List drifting to left still happening
Hallo Allie, On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:19:23 -0500GMT (27-12-2005, 18:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: AM Even worse, when the drifting of the list to the left occurs, there's no AM horizontal scrollbar to use to bring it back into view. Confirmed. -- Groetjes, Roelof If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you! The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp5FZWEMs0n4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: Jumping headers when filling the TO field)
Hallo steverio2k, On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:54:29 -0800GMT (27-12-2005, 19:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: S Confirmed...Tahoma size 11 makes the lines jump while typing the S address manually. S S Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out steverio2k. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators need love, too Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message from 1899 on TBUDL?
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:18:50 +0100GMT (27-12-2005, 21:18 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PM Thank you and Zeynel. So I'll file it under just another unsolved PM mystery... ;-) I guess that's the best. Same as those incidental times that I can't read Cees' messages while nobody else has trouble reading them. And then without me changing a thing they turn readable. -- Groetjes, Roelof In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpwjvDRpdHTu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Christmas Edition
Hallo Peter, On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:35:47 +0100GMT (29-12-2005, 14:35 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PF Jernej also gets them. As I wrote to Paul - I have changed nothing PF between everything ran OK to when they begun. As you can see, I am PF running .14 - here there is no problem. Nor in 3.62.12. Others in PF between give me AVs. PF All I do is exchange the exe. What happens when you run TBV with a restored backup from your message base? (The back-up is just to make sure that TBV uses the same message base, so that differences in the base don't invalidate the results) -- Groetjes, Roelof I'd Have Written Sooner But I Thought I Owed You Money. The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpdZvH4skzkX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Christmas Edition
Hallo Peter, On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:42:32 +0100GMT (29-12-2005, 21:42 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RO What happens when you run TBV with a restored backup from your RO message base? PF Is TBV and Pro the same? What would it tell us? TBV and Pro are not quite the same, but they've got a lot in common. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 010 Reserved for future mistakes by our developers The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpaeDt1WkYPT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.64.02
Hallo steverio2k, On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:27:01 -0800GMT (4-1-2006, 2:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: S For me, for some reason, TBV does not associate itself with a mailto: S by setting preferences there in the program. Even so, it does not list S itself in the registry as a recognized mail client. In order for IE6 TBV isn't supposed to list itself in the registry whatsoever. It should leave the registry alone. Therefore it should not be able to install itself as the default mail client. The only thing that's wrong is that it offers the (non-functioning) option to do so. The preferences for this should be deleted, but I guess their presence has something to do with the similarity in code between TB and TBV. -- Groetjes, Roelof Sometimes, when it's quiet, you can hear the brain cells die. --- SLR The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpRhiiH1jBVd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Smiles bug
Hallo Den, On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 00:38:52 +0400GMT (6-1-2006, 21:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MM The Bat v3.64.03 BETA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36403.rar DVY no smiles. only error picture (smiles.png). DVY on 3.64.01 all ok (smiles_ok.png). Can't confirm, they're fine over here. (Whenever I enable them) -- Groetjes, Roelof Yawn: The only time some men get to open their mouths. The Bat! 3.64.03 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp1UxC6Y0T9M.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug when creating and deleting a colour group
Hallo Vili, On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:15:09 +0100GMT (8-1-2006, 14:15 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V Solution: when a color group is deleted, I think all the mails should V be checked and set the color group to GENERIC if the mail has the V deleted coor group... That's ridiculous. What if you don't have a generic colour group? Like me for instance. I suppose you've created your generic colour group yourself. -- Groetjes, Roelof If the water is clean, you see the bottom, if dirty, you see yourself. The Bat! 3.64.03 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpm1YDXN7Jpn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug when selecting other account as sending account
Hallo Vili, On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:08:09 +0100GMT (8-1-2006, 14:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V 3. I open the mail, the sender field shows Account1, but the statusbar V on the bottom of the screen shows Account2... Bug? No. Intended behaviour. Dragging messages from one account to another deletes all associations with the old account. Similar behaviour is encountered with common folders. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows:(n.)3. The solution to a problem that didn't exist. The Bat! 3.64.03 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDNsGQSzswV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug when creating and deleting a colour group
Hallo Vili, On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:24:59 +0100GMT (9-1-2006, 15:24 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V Sorry, I should have written that the color group 'NONE' should be V assigned to the mail. Well, that would be another issue. V Because now you can see that not even the None is assigned to a V mail if you delete a color group. Confirmed. V IT IS A BUG... Is it? I don't know about that, because when you create a new colour group with the same name, it's being assigned again to the same messages. I find that kind of neat. After all you didn't assign the message to colour group NONE, but merely misplaced the colour group. -- Groetjes, Roelof A liberal is one who lies about the past, and then tries to repeat it The Bat! 3.64.03 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpZxf7WGgfgh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug when creating and deleting a colour group
Hallo Vili, On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:37:02 +0100GMT (9-1-2006, 16:37 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V Should I file a bug report? No. I wouldn't like TB to go through all of my folders and messages in order to find messages assigned to an unused colour group that I want to delete. -- Groetjes, Roelof I love my country; it's my government that scares me. The Bat! 3.64.03 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgptBsoQMaST1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.65 MSI
Hallo Maxim, On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:37:28 +0200GMT (10-1-2006, 18:37 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-65.msi Won't run after install. First time it asked me for the master password (I'm running OTFE) and gave me: --- Application Error --- Exception ERangeError in module thebat.exe at 6FB6. Range check error. --- OK --- Put 3.64.03 back, and TB ran fine. Deleted the .exe and repaired the install. (So I had 3.65 back) TB ran, asked me for the password and complained afterwards that there was no account. Told it to create a new account. On selecting the mail directory I saw that TB remembered my current (non default mail directory. On creating the account I got: --- The Bat! --- Range check error. --- OK --- Went back to 3.64.03 -- Groetjes, Roelof Wait a minute! Strike that! Reverse it. Thank you. The Bat! 3.64.03 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current beta is 3.65 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.65.01 beta?
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:05:03 +0100GMT (10-1-2006, 22:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MDP There is no further release to 3.65 because there are no bugs being MDP reported. No bugs? It doesn't run! PH sorry, but I definitely consider it a BIG bug that TB does not recognise my PH database and insists on creating a new account. Yep. Definitely a show stopper. Is there anybody at all with OTFE for whom it runs? -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows! The magic of turning a 486 into a Gameboy! The Bat! 3.64.03 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpgeTFbIGyGe.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.65 MSI
Hallo Marck, On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:21:06 +GMT (10-1-2006, 22:21 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MDP That's better! A full report. :) Actually, it's a sad report. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows: written entirely by and for blondes The Bat! 3.64.03 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp2qOeZPMeLC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: QTs in AB templates--strange behavior
Hallo Mary, On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:02:50 -0600GMT (9-1-2006, 21:02 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB But the QT AB entry for me is still not working, even after dropping MB back. My first guess would be that he somehow put you more than once in his AB. That's the most common cause for this kind of problem. -- Groetjes, Roelof If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good. - B Gates The Bat! 3.64.03 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp9uVh8a01Bi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.65.01 is now available
Hallo Alto, On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:10:47 +0100GMT (13-1-2006, 18:10 +0100, where I live), you wrote: AS But it's not possible to activate a view mode based on the machine used AS to view an account, only based on the account being viewed. If that's AS the same and the machines are different, all the workarounds don't AS really work. What you could do, is to enable message list tabs. Next you assign your different machine dependant view modes to their own tab. When you're running on a certain machine, you pick the tab that's configured for that view. When you switch between folders the same message list tab will stay selected, so that's almost what you want. -- Groetjes, Roelof and that is how we know the Earth is banana-shaped. The Bat! 3.65.01 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpgeXK89y6yK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: The Bat! 3.65.01 is now available)
Hallo Alto, On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:10:47 +0100GMT (13-1-2006, 18:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AS the same and the machines are different, all the workarounds don't AS really work. AS RU! AS -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- AS Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Alto. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof GUTS: Putting the name MODERATOR in your TWIT filter. pgpnwVDr8cgQZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: File Conversion from old TB!
Hallo Eddie, On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:39:55 +0100GMT (13-1-2006, 21:39 +0100, where I live), you wrote: EC As I can recall there was a Version where the File Structure or EC something like that has chanced. The conversion, I can remember, was EC going smooth. But now I need to convert this old Account so as I can EC access the Data. Wasn't that somewhere around 1.49 or 1.53 IIRC you had to use one specific version to update the message base. Try to find something about five years old. -- Groetjes, Roelof To err is human. Obviously, humans have bugs in the source code. - SLR The Bat! 3.65.01 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpKKtmJ9TAA4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: File Conversion from old TB!
Hallo Eddie, On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:12:08 +0100GMT (13-1-2006, 22:12 +0100, where I live), you wrote: EC As I can recall there was a Version where the File Structure or EC something like that has chanced. The conversion, I can remember, EC was going smooth. But now I need to convert this old Account so EC as I can access the Data. Wasn't that somewhere around 1.49 or 1.53 IIRC you had to use one specific version to update the message base. Try to find something about five years old. EC Thanks. I think it was some where 2004/2005 but not 5 years back as EC much as I can remember. I thought that you meant the file structure of the message base, that was about five years ago. The other changes were v1 - v2 folder info changed from account.flx - .flb (Sept 2003) v2 - v3 account info changed from account.cfg - .cfn (Sept 2004) sorting office changed from account.srx - .srb AFAIK the changes implemented by v3 can still be done automatically by v3, but I'm not absolutely sure about that. Anyway, I don't know whether you still remember the account settings, but the messages can be imported with: Tools - Import... -- Groetjes, Roelof ERROR: 001 Windows loaded. System in danger. The Bat! 3.65.01 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpndb4mtQR7r.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: File Conversion from old TB!
Hallo Eddie, On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:21:42 +0100GMT (13-1-2006, 22:21 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Any Idea how to reach this? Create your new account and then import each folder with: Tools/Import messages/From The Bat2 message base v1 or v2 as appropriate EC Thanks Miguel - but in that Account I have over 60 folders. Isn't EC there a simpler way? Create a new account Close TB Copy the the old folders into the matching account directory Start TB Select the account tree pane Press Ctl-Alt-Shift-L -- Groetjes, Roelof As long as I can remember, I've had amnesia. The Bat! 3.65.01 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpHnD0kxq2KI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: File Conversion from old TB!
Hallo Eddie, On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:39:55 +0100GMT (13-1-2006, 21:39 +0100, where I live), you wrote: EC I have an old Account I like to use. Creating it by pointing to the Apart from everything else. This is not really a beta issue. Please take these kind of things to tbudl the next time. I guess we should have an official moderating message for this. Maybe that'll happen some time. -- Groetjes, Roelof Sometimes, when it's quiet, you can hear the brain cells die. --- SLR The Bat! 3.65.01 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpLFDRtSXXeE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.65.02 (addresses Exchange and Outlook issues only) is now available
Hallo Maxim, On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:40:31 +0200GMT (13-1-2006, 23:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36502.rar Runs ok. -- Groetjes, Roelof Computer: Tea, earl gray, hot. In a cup this time! The Bat! 3.65.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpl8t2HaWJMp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [HINDRANCE] - Processing Folder stucks
Hallo Eddie, On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:49:33 +0100GMT (15-1-2006, 20:49 +0100, where I live), you wrote: EC When the Cursor is pointing to a Folder in the Folder Pane and I check EC for Duplications it does what it should but the 'Process Folder EC Window' stays open (like it would hang) for at least 15- 40 seconds EC depending the amount of mails in the folder, CPU activities raise to EC anywhere from 75% to 85%. During this 'unknown' activity I can see EC that duplicates are removed. After the 'process Window' closes the EC right amount of removed Duplicates are shown. EC Can anyone confirm? (see Sys Env. below) Can't confirm, but that's with XP in stead of 2000 -- Groetjes, Roelof When I was a boy, when Fortran was only Twotran The Bat! 3.65.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgprBVku554vs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! 3.65.X
Hallo Goncalo, On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:04:56 +GMT (15-1-2006, 14:04 +0100, where I live), you wrote: GF IMHO, the beta site should be the place to start looking for new beta GF versions. I don't think that being a list member is a requirement to GF access the beta site but I could be wrong. Well, you're supposed to subscribe to be able to access the beta site and then you're being told that this list is the only official means to talk about betas. At least that was how it was when I subscribed. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, VCR - I came, I saw, I videotaped it The Bat! 3.65.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgprDZxaUvGtZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: HTML use (was: 3.65.03 - IMAP)
Hallo oldfat, On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:19:41 -0600GMT (17-1-2006, 8:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: O Hello Clive, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out oldfat. ' Please do not send HTML messages to the list except for purposes of testing. While the merits of HTML are debatable, and have been discussed numerous times on the lists, the list rules prohibit HTML e-mail. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators need love, too pgpNmMXLscmJL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filtering using 3.65.04
Hallo Roland, On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:34:58 +0100GMT (19-1-2006, 18:34 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RB Instead of Eingang they are set to Inbox and instead of RB Versandt they are set to Sent! Seems to me that it's working okay. No matter whether I'm using the Dutch, German or English interface. -- Groetjes, Roelof Sharewear (n.) -- Used clothing. The Bat! 3.65.04 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpHpKfj0fJMT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: The Bat! 3.70.02 Qigong is now available)
Hallo Alto, On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:46:58 +0100GMT (24-1-2006, 17:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AS There was a beta version released and I reported bugs in it. Actually you reported that a discontinued feature was discontinued for the umptieth time. Please consider that topic dead horsed. The rest of the thread with with the above mentioned subject can continue. AS Do you have a problem with that? moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Alto. ' This topic has become far too heated and I am forced to pronounce it dead. We, the moderators, pride ourselves on keeping the tone of this list one of sensible exchange of opinion and peer support. This thread no longer conforms to either basic tenet. Please take it off-list or to TBOT. For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof It's all a moderator conspiracy, it is... pgpJjFTvMQfH1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.02 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: The Bat! 3.70.02 Qigong is now available)
Hallo Alto, On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:05:11 +0100GMT (24-1-2006, 19:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: AS Any due respect nonwithholding, What part of ,- | This topic has become far too heated and I am forced to pronounce it | dead. `- was too difficult to understand? I'm seeing a thread of twelve messages on my moderating message and looking to the tone of those messages I don't like them at all. I tried to explain the reason for my dead horsing and not adding to the discussion, but I appear to have failed in that. But please stop. -- Groetjes, Roelof Unbelief in one thing springs = blind belief in another. The Bat! 3.65.04 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgphy8DyE74re.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.02 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Authenicating StarTls
Hallo Robert, On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:22:54 -0500GMT (25-1-2006, 19:22 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RD TB does something different even if I select StarTLS You shouldn't use starttls as OE doesn't use that either. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vegi. (I came, I saw, I had a salad) The Bat! 3.70.02 Qigong(Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpsGDYVEljw5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.02 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) is now available
Hallo 9Val, On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:36:23 +0200GMT (25-1-2006, 20:36 +0100, where I live), you wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb37003.rar 9 Here is a short list of changes: 9 [*] IMAP: message list list retrieval optimizations 9 [*] IMAP: overall stability improvement And it even says that on startup. Neat. -- Groetjes, Roelof I'd Have Written Sooner But I Thought I Owed You Money. The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpzoxRRKiqRn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.02 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) is now available
Hallo Charlene, On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:42:47 +0100GMT (25-1-2006, 20:42 +0100, where I live), you wrote: CF At first exit I got: CF Control '' has no parent window. Can't confirm. -- Groetjes, Roelof Modem. A deterrent to phone solicitors. The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpVPIlfyoOD7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.02 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TB 3.70.03 doesn't remember the interface settings (OTFE)
Hallo tbbeta, On using 3.70.03 for the first time it didn't show any toolbars (as configured). On starting it for the second time, it showed my toolbars and it doesn't use my customized shortcuts. Using OTFE here, might be related. On the second run, I deleted the toolbars again, but the third run had them show up again. The tbuser.eef file has been updated though. (Bad idea, I know, probably means that I've lost my original customization.) -- Groetjes, Roelof '95 - The number of calls to tech support before you can get it to run The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpARG810IIAM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB 3.70.03 doesn't remember the interface settings (OTFE)
Hallo Peter, On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:51:05 +0100GMT (25-1-2006, 21:51 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PH BTW2: When I start the customisation and immediately exit it without PH changing anything, it tells me that there are unsaved changes and asks PH me to save them. ?-) Can you confirm this? Can't confirm that. No matter what I do, close it with 'ok', 'cancel' or the top right x, it simply closes. But that may have something to with the fact that I already deleted my toolbars. -- Groetjes, Roelof Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact, are transmission errors only!! The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpwvj9y1QWDy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB 3.70.03 doesn't remember the interface settings (OTFE)
Hallo Roelof, On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:28:40 +0100GMT (26-1-2006, 0:28 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PH BTW2: When I start the customisation and immediately exit it without PH changing anything, it tells me that there are unsaved changes and asks PH me to save them. ?-) Can you confirm this? RO Can't confirm that. RO No matter what I do, close it with 'ok', 'cancel' or the top right x, RO it simply closes. But that may have something to with the fact that I RO already deleted my toolbars. No, doesn't matter. After a fresh start it's still not asking. -- Groetjes, Roelof Before we go any further, do you love me? The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDHA8HspUSB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add Address in .02 .03
Hallo Richard, On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:46:10 -0500GMT (26-1-2006, 23:46 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RN When you click on adding an address from a message header, the Group RN Selection Box is empty. When adding from the address book directly, RN the groups appear in the Selection Box. I'm not sure what you mean. The address picker behaves as always over here. -- Groetjes, Roelof May we kiss those we please, and please those we kiss. The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpyR31Dx4SzD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add Address in .02 .03
Hallo Richard, On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:27:07 -0500GMT (27-1-2006, 17:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RN 5) Group Selector pops up and is empty. There are no groups to RN select when in fact there are groups in the address book. Can't confirm -- Groetjes, Roelof Postscript: The only thing of interest in some letters. The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpgGxOCP0IGk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BCC bug
Hallo Jon, On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:08:25 -0500GMT (27-1-2006, 21:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JP I have address book entries with more than one address AND JP Automatically add secondary addresses to BCC field checked. When JP creating a new message, only the primary address is used. As in all versions (AFAIK) this only works when you're creating a new message from the AB. Just tested it with 1.62 and even then it was like that. So I don't think it's a bug, but just different than what you expected. -- Groetjes, Roelof If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you! The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpdLDHdABsxm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) is now available
Hallo Cees, On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:35:45 +0100GMT (28-1-2006, 14:35 +0100, where I live), you wrote: C I noticed since the previous release that my shortcuts to mark/unmark a C message as junk have gone. (alt-J and alt-shift-J) The same here (though different keys) Didn't surprise me though. As I noticed that my tbuser.eef was overwritten. (Timestamp was newer.) C Will those be put back in a future release or would I have to do C that myself? I suppose you've got to do that by yourself. Over here I won't create them again, because I've stopped using a anti-spam plug-in. The built in spam filter in my mail server is way better. -- Groetjes, Roelof User - a technical term used by computer pros. See idiot. The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp5Zx62sOav6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) is now available
Hallo 9Val, On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:22:42 +0200GMT (28-1-2006, 16:22 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PH But if I want to mark a folder as read that contains subfolder, it still PH asks me! This is e.g. true for the tbbeta folder which holds two virtual PH subfolders. Can you include an option to suppress this question as well? 9 Sure, will be available in next beta Great. -- Groetjes, Roelof Experiencing synaptical difficulties; Please stand by. The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpwjSbvcm2Ta.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AB entries in Instant address box
Hallo paul, On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:11:45 +GMT (30-1-2006, 21:11 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PM I have a single contact with four email addresses in the AB. This PM contact only appears once in the AB. The Add this address to the PM instant address pop-up menu option for this contact in the AB is PM ticked. However when I create an email and type in the first name PM of the contact (into To:) only two of the contacts addresses PM appear in the drop down, two are missing! Also one of the addresses appears twice. Not a beta issue. You're mistaken about the function you selected. That adds the contact to the drop down list before you create a new message. On the toolbar, next to the new message button, you'll find a downwards arrow. Press it and you'll see all of your favourite contacts. (Only their primary address) The drop down list that you're talking about is the list belonging to the autocomplete feature and my guess is that you've configured it to complete both from the history as the AB. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vacate (I came, I saw, I left) The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgphzLdRYhSnY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Folder Refresh Issue
Hallo Randy, On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:45:22 -0800GMT (1-2-2006, 18:45 +0100, where I live), you wrote: R Sorry if this has been covered before but I've noticed that when new R messages appear in the currently opened folder, I have to navigate to R another folder and then back again before the message list updates. Can't confirm with OTFE and POP. Are you on IMAP? -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows '95 = Mac O/S '84 The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpsXTZTwqnVd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.70.06: Duplicate address in CC field when replying to all
Hallo Miguel, On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:13:28 +0100GMT (1-2-2006, 17:13 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M From: Me M To: Someone M CC: Addr1, Addr2, Addr2 It's even worse, I tred it with a message with four CC recipients and the reply to all had the last three CC's twice in the CC header, like: From: Me To: Whatever CC: Addr1, Addr2, Addr3, Addr4, Addr2, Addr3, Addr4 I don't know if it matters, but in this case addr4 was the same address as my From: header. (An alias, not the from address of my account) -- Groetjes, Roelof Every person constructs their own bed of nails. The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpucBxorQlfW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
