Re: Memo's

2000-10-01 Thread Nick Andriash

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On October 1, 2000, at 3:25:57 AM, Gary Mort Wrote:

 You can display a memo in the message list view, you can even click on the memo
 column and sort by that field.

When you say "message list view", are you talking about the preview pane,
or are you double clicking on a message to open it? What steps are you
taking to display that Memo? I have "Memo Auto-view" checked under View,
expecting the memo to pop up whenever the message was highlighted. What I
have to do, is uncheck it, then re-check it for the memo to show.

There must be an easier way.


Nick


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Re[2]: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread Graham

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On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:16:04 +0800
Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

TF Can you point me to the URL? Is ZoneAlarm free, or how much does it
TF cost? I understand it's still being developed?

Yes, Zone Alarm is totally free.  The URL for this is:

http://www.zonelabs.com

There are two versions (ZoneAlarm and ZoneAlarm Pro, which you
have to pay for and adds some enhancements).  I am happy with the
free version.

ZoneLog Alalyser is a separate program and can be obtained from:

http://zonelog.co.uk

Its still in Beta testing, but very stable and very interesting. 
It also is free.


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Re[2]: Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas

On 01 October 2000, at 06:13, you wrote

TF Hallo Charlie,

TF On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 21:38:39 +0100 GMT (01/10/2000, 04:38 +0800 GMT),
TF Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote:

CTc Ok, here's something else to think about. My firewall is set up to ask
CTc for permission when any new installation attempts to communicate for
CTc the first time. Every program I've installed since setting up the
CTc firewall has fired this rule and asked for permission, that is all
CTc except oneTB!

CTc cue X-files music
TF  LOL

TF I don't have this problem, because the app doesn't need to ask for
TF permission. If any tries anything, and it is not explicitely permitted
TF in the over 100 rules that I have set up for the firewall, I will be
TF asked. Otherwise, if a firewall depended on the app to actively report
TF there actions to the firewall, it would be conveniently easy to write
TF an app to bypass the firewall and cause damage or disclose
TF confidential information, if you are so inclined.

TF I guess somewhere in the myriad of rules there is one that permits
TF "any application" to make a POP connection and an SMTP connection. I
TF had to permit these for TB in the beginning.

Some URL's re security that I've found useful. They may be of interest to
your good self and others in the list:
www.aks.com/esafe/enterprise/sandbox.asp
http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=1565921240
http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=1565924258
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-1999-02.html
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/Ie/security/default.asp
http://www.eeye.com/database/advisories/ad06081999/ad06081999.html
http://www.securityfocus.com/

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Re[3]: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread Gerd Ewald

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Hello Graham !


On Sun, 01 Oct 2000 09:05:54 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was 01.10.2000, 10:05 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote:

TF Can you point me to the URL? Is ZoneAlarm free, or how much does it
TF cost? I understand it's still being developed?

 Yes, Zone Alarm is totally free.  The URL for this is:

 http://www.zonelabs.com

 There are two versions (ZoneAlarm and ZoneAlarm Pro, which you
 have to pay for and adds some enhancements).  I am happy with the
 free version.

I totally agree with Graham: Zonealarm works perfectly and I never had any
problems with any program. Nevertheless you should be informed that Zonealarm
uses true vector technology which might be dangerous as some say in various
newsgroups (comp.security.firewall.something-I-can't-remember; software might
transmit data from your computer to zonelabs). As many others in that
newsgroup I can't confirm this (Zonealarm never phoned home g) and IMHO there
is always a possibility to abuse technology; but this does not necessarily
mean that Zonelabs does use its technology for espionage.

Another info: you might have a blue screen of death telling you some problems
with VSMON32.DLL (not sure about the proper name). If so, delete Zonelabs from
autostart-group and start it manually when necessary. The error happens AFAICS
when Zonealarm and some anti-virus programs are started in auto-start (OT: when
do you english-speaking people use "program" and when "programme" ??)


 ZoneLog Alalyser is a separate program and can be obtained from:

 http://zonelog.co.uk

 Its still in Beta testing, but very stable and very interesting.
 It also is free.

Wow, Graham thanks for that URL. I wasn't active in firewall-NG for some time,
so this might explain why I didn't know about this tool. This is really great
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Re: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Gerd,

On 01 October 2000 at 11:57:10 GMT +0200 (which was 10:57 where I
live) Gerd Ewald wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication":

GE OT:  when  do  you  english-speaking people use "program" and when
GE "programme" ??

When  I write or use a computer program or when I watch a TV programme
or "get with the programme".

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Re[2]: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread Gerd Ewald

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Hello Marck D. Pearlstone !


On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 11:15:03 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was 01.10.2000, 12:15 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote:

GE OT:  when  do  you  english-speaking people use "program" and when
GE "programme" ??

 When  I write or use a computer program or when I watch a TV programme
 or "get with the programme".

Aaahhh ! Thanks Marck ! German seems to be a bit simple minded then: we use the
same word for both; well, at least one can't make a mistake in spelling the
word ;-)

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Re: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Gerd,

and also Graham and Ceejay: thanks a lot for all this info. I will
check all this out and let you know if I have further questions, or
made a decision.

On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 11:57:10 +0200 GMT (01/10/2000, 17:57 +0800 GMT),
Gerd Ewald wrote:

GE (OT: when do you english-speaking people use "program" and when
GE "programme" ??)

"Program": American English. Commmonly used in Computer English, too.
In some programming languages (Pascal springs to mind), even a keyword.

"Programme": Proper (British) English. I make it a point in my
university essays to write about "computer programmes", and they
cannot mark it even as a spelling mistake, because I use British
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OT: Program - Programme [WAS: Re[2]: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication]

2000-10-01 Thread Gerd Ewald

Hello Thomas Fernandez !


On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:10:11 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was 01.10.2000, 13:10 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote:

[...]

 "Programme": Proper (British) English. I make it a point in my
   
   Ooops ? I won't argue with this; I only learned English at
   school; my relatives speak English and our friends do speak
   something different in West Yorkshire and Scotland (Glasgow),
   but this is supposed to be English ;-)

 university essays to write about "computer programmes", and they
 cannot mark it even as a spelling mistake, because I use British
 English throughout. ;-)

Hihi ! LOL

[...]

In fact your mail means, both is used for the same things (other than Marck
said ? He is British, isn't he) but in two different countries !

Ok, point taken ! Learned something new !

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Re[2] Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread ClueBusDriver

Hello Thomas,

Sunday, October 01, 2000, 1:16:26 AM, you wrote:

TF Hallo ClueBusDriver,

TF On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 14:02:40 -0700 GMT (01/10/2000, 04:52 +0800 GMT),
TF ClueBusDriver wrote:

C What firewall software are you using? I have Sybergen's ( it's now
C free for personal use) and TB can't get through it. I give it
C authorization though..

TF I use AtGuard, but since it is not being further developed anymore, I
TF would be interested in looking into Sybergen. Do you have a URL? Is it
TF still being developed?

You can find it at www.sybergen.com . Just follow the links around for
"Sygate Personal Firewall," and you'll get to the D/L page. They used
to sell it for $40 I believe, then, they started giving it away to
individuals.

There's another free one called Zonealarm. I used it for awhile and it
was ok until I installed an SP on my win2k machine. The
Zonealarm/Service Pack1 combo were incompatable and cost me several
hours of work resolving an inbound packet issue.

One footnote from our local Cable Internet group:

/paste on/

If you are running Windows 98 1st edition:

Before even trying to configure the Sygate Personal Firewall (
http://www.sybergen.com ), save yourself a major headache and check for the
following:

IPHLAPI.DLL version 5.00.1952.1

If your copy of this file on your HD is the above version, the file MUST be
updated to a newer version before the Firewall will protect your system.  I
spent over 3 hours trying to figure out why the Sygate website was reporting
my system as being open on ports 139 (NetBios) and port 8 (ping) before I
read a FAQ at their website concerning this file.

/paste off/

Good luck!



C I'm a first-time poster to this list...we'll see if it goes.

TF Welcome then. :-)




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Re: OT: Program - Programme [WAS: Re[2]: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication]

2000-10-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Gerd,

On 01 October 2000 at 13:44:36 GMT +0200 (which was 12:44 where I
live) Gerd Ewald wrote and made these points on the subject
of "OT: Program - Programme [WAS: Re[2]: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication]":

GE In fact your mail means, both is used for the same things (other
GE than Marck said ? He is British, isn't he) but in two different
GE countries !

English  *and*  a computer programmer with formal computing education.
Trust me g!

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Re: Re[2] Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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On Sun, 01 Oct 2000 05:49:05 -0700, ClueBusDriver wrote:

C There's another free one called Zonealarm. I used it for awhile and
C it was ok until I installed an SP on my win2k machine. The
C Zonealarm/Service Pack1 combo were incompatable and cost me several
C hours of work resolving an inbound packet issue.

There's a patch available for download at Zonelabs which fixes the Win2k
SP1 problem. Interestingly, not only does it fix the SP1 problem, but it
also fixes the problem that existed with TB! when ZoneAlarm was run
with high security settings where one had to be restarting TB! for each
server connection attempt.

ZoneAlarm Pro which was released after Win2k's SP1 does not have a
problem with Win2k with SP1 installed and it also works perfectly with
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Problem in setting copy to: folder (in other account) in Sorting Office

2000-10-01 Thread JMReichow

Hello TBUDL,

I am having problems to set the following | Action(s) | in the
Sorting Office / Filters menu:

[checkbox] Create a copy of message in another folder

Can  anyone  confirm  that selecting a destination folder by using the
Browsing  [tree-symbol] button does NOT work? Mine does allow browsing
the  complete  folder structure tree but neither /double-/clicking nor
pressing  OK  selects  the  folder.  The window is one of the few that
remains greyed out, by the way.

I  have  noticed  this is only a problem when creating copies from one
_account_  into  a  folder on another one. Browse-selection works fine
within one and the same account. A file name problem?
(This kind of browse-selection _does work_ across multiple accounts on
the first tab page, for  Move messages to folder. I notice \\ plus the
actual account name are being inserted automatically after selection -
unlike in which I have described above).

Give it a try, please.

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Re:mailto: [link] opens active folder's template instead of general account template

2000-10-01 Thread JMReichow

Friday, September 29, 2000, 7:37:22 PM, scriptur:

 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:07:04 +0200
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 Subject: Re: mailto:[link]  opens active folder's template instead of general 
account template


 Any mistake in my settings maybe?

 under account-settings, check the
 'this account is the default for "mailto:" urls'

 That'll do the trick

Thanks  - indeed a _trick_: either somewhat unintuitive a solution (if
using  an  _account_  and  its template is the opposite/alternative of
having  TB just use any open _folder_'s settings...) or the punishment
for  those  users  (like myself, admittedly) who don't care to specify
_how_  (and in which of their accounts) they want their mail client to
be invoked.

(  Funny  the  same  question came up on the German TB list during the
discussion  of  the  new MAPI.DLL; it seems the /default/ account (and
its templates) are, logically, the ones invoked through MAPI from e.g.
Forté  Agent.  Which  also means, getting back to my initial report on
the  behaviour  when  not  selecting a default, that _any open folder_
and its template could be addressed/invoked through MAPI.   Which I'll
need to try... )

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Re: OT: Program - Programme [WAS: Re[2]: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication]

2000-10-01 Thread Tony Boom

This message: 01/10/2000 13:24 GMT.

Hello Gerd,


  A reminder of what Gerd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on:
  01 October 2000 at 13:44:36 GMT +0200

 "Programme": Proper (British) English. I make it a point in my
GE
GEOoops ? I won't argue with this; I only learned English at
GEschool; my relatives speak English and our friends do speak
GEsomething different in West Yorkshire and Scotland (Glasgow),
GEbut this is supposed to be English ;-)


  I was going to comment on this point as well.

  As any native speaking Englishman will tell you, especially if they
  come from the south, it's easier to understand Navajo Indian than it is
  a Scotsman.

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Re: OT: Program - Programme [WAS: Re[2]: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication]

2000-10-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Marck,

On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:49:07 +0100 GMT (01/10/2000, 20:49 +0800 GMT),
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

GE In fact your mail means, both is used for the same things (other
GE than Marck said ? He is British, isn't he) but in two different
GE countries !

MDP English  *and*  a computer programmer with formal computing education.
MDP Trust me g!

I trust you Marck, and so I looked it up. The course material which I
receive from The Open University in England (www.open.ac.uk) uses both
spellings; I believe it depends on the particular author. A Laurie
Keller (she wrote the Course Units for MZX881: Architecture of
Computing Systems, which I am about to finish) uses "programme". Roger
Pressman, Ph.D. and of M880 course book fame, uses the spelling
"program". But then, he is American.

The different spelling in the US and the UK was created by a guy named
Abraham Lincoln. He wanted to simplify the spelling and created
confusion instead. Some examples of his rules are: Words ending on
-gramme were changed to end on -gram. Words ending on -logue were
changed to end on -log (dialog/dialogue). And so on; silent endings
were just cut off. Some of his further suggestions, such as night/nite
or light/lite didn't quite catch on; you'll find it in ads sometimes,
as in "Cola Lite". - Funny thing is, Canada (the anglophone part)
writes British and speaks American English.

My degree in English doesn't make me British, so, Marck, you'll have
the last word on this. It is just that I have come across this
particular word "program/programme" in a computing context quite often
these past months. ;-)

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Re: Problem in setting copy to: folder (in other account) in Sorting Office

2000-10-01 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:18:49 +0200, JMReichow wrote:

J I am having problems to set the following | Action(s) | in the
J Sorting Office / Filters menu:

J [checkbox] Create a copy of message in another folder

J Can  anyone  confirm  that selecting a destination folder by using the
J Browsing  [tree-symbol] button does NOT work?
snip

J I  have  noticed  this is only a problem when creating copies from one
J _account_  into  a  folder on another one.
snip

J Give it a try, please.

OK, I tried it.

When I select a folder in another account and hit OK, the destination
folder selection field remains blank. However, the selection has been
successfully made though there's no visual confirmation of this unless
you refresh the field. Go to another filter rule and then come back.
You'll now see the destination field appropriately filled in.

The failure of the field to be visually filled immediately, without
having to do a refresh seems to be a bug, yes.

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Re: Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread Oliver Sturm

Hi Thomas Fernandez,

On Sunday, October 01, 2000 at 7:27:08 AM you wrote:

 This is the info I just pasted from the log:

 Quote

 This one time, the user has chosen to "block" communications.  Details:
 Inbound TCP connection 
 Local address,service is (163.31.23.50,nbsession)
 Remote address,service is (163.31.23.191,1163)
 Process name is "C:\PROGRAM FILES\THE BAT!\THEBAT.EXE"

 Unquote

 I'm running AtGuard V.3.2. If there is more info somewhere, let me
 know where to look.

I don't know that software... I just don't understand what meaning the
process   name  is  supposed to have in this context. There's only one
situation  I can imagine where any local process would have to do with
the  connection:  if that local process had a listening socket open on
the  port  in  question.  But TB doesn't open any listening sockets at
all,  AFAIK  (why  should  it?),  so this really can't be the case. Or
maybe  the  word  "incoming"  is  wrong  here?  Which  of those two IP
addresses belongs to your system?


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Re: Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread Ming-Li

On Saturday, September 30, 2000, 10:25:51 PM, Thomas wrote:

ML I have no idea about your question, but this got me curious.
ML Yet here my NSLookup tells me the address belongs to Hinet (the
ML domain name is h191.s23.ts31.hinet.net).

 Where did you look this up? I look at
 www.nic.com/nic_info/whois.htm. It only says Ministry of
 Education. I get a lot of warning for attempted inbound from that
 range of addresses.

The Ministry of Education is the IP administrator for Taiwan. I
guess you'll find all IP addresses belong to it in NIC's whois
database.

Any NSLookup utility should give you the actual registered domain
name at the moment, and that's what I found.

I didn't know Hinet's IP comes from the Education Ministry, however.
I've always thought the Ministry only regulates domain names ended
with .tw country code. I was obviously wrong.

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Re: Sticky sticks off-screen

2000-10-01 Thread Roel

Hi Thomas

On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 18:36:16 +0800GMT
   (which was 30/09/2000, 12:36 +0100GMT for me),

you wrote:

TF Now I just enabled "sticky" again, and the pop-up windows venture
TF offscreen again. It seems the old (wrong) values for each window for
TF each account are still stored somewhere. Does anybody know where and
TF what the default values for "center stage" are?

TF I would like to reset them and then stick my windows again where I
TF want them. Thanks for your help.

I've had this too a few months ago...
The way I solved it:
- put 'sticky' on
- minimize all windows
- invoke the mail-checks (line disconnected, so you've got some time
  untill they time-out)
- 'start-menu' - rightclick  choose 'cascade windows'
that'll put them all in the upper-left corner...

there's probably a registry setting for it, but this is faster :-)

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Re: Regarding your post in TBUDL

2000-10-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hello Angel,

On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 07:04:44 -0700 GMT (01/10/2000, 22:04 +0800 GMT),
Angel wrote:

A I did a search on Sam Spade. I work on a search engine and use it
A quote frequently, and got sort-of-different results that what was posted in
A the list. You might want to give it a try /or bookmark it? It's never let
A me down thus far. Oh! I am sending you this via non-list cos it's,
A well, quite long LOL
A Here is what I got:

[...]

Thanks for your research. Hinet is the biggest ISP in Taiwan, and it
is owned by Chungwa Telecom, or Taiwan Telecom, the state-owned
telecom provider. Actually, Hinet is one of my local service provider
too (see my SMTP stamp).

A (Whois queries for .net domains can be performed at 
http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois)

Thanks, I didn't know that.

A whois -h whois.crsnic.net hinet.net

Will try this next time on the unix server.

A You can visit SamSpade @: http://samspade.org/t/

Very useful indeed. :-)

What surprises me is that AtGuard said it is TB that had started the
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Re: Re[3]: Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread Graham

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Hello Graham !


On Sun, 01 Oct 2000 09:05:54 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was 01.10.2000, 10:05 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote:

TF Can you point me to the URL? Is ZoneAlarm free, or how much
does it
TF cost? I understand it's still being developed?

 Yes, Zone Alarm is totally free.  The URL for this is:

 http://www.zonelabs.com

 There are two versions (ZoneAlarm and ZoneAlarm Pro, which you
 have to pay for and adds some enhancements).  I am happy with the
 free version.

I totally agree with Graham: Zonealarm works perfectly and I never
had any
problems with any program. Nevertheless you should be informed that
Zonealarm
uses true vector technology which might be dangerous as some say in
various
newsgroups (comp.security.firewall.something-I-can't-remember;
software might
transmit data from your computer to zonelabs). As many others in
that
newsgroup I can't confirm this (Zonealarm never phoned home g) and
IMHO there
is always a possibility to abuse technology; but this does not
necessarily
mean that Zonelabs does use its technology for espionage.

I understand from Steve Gibson (who wrote Optout and is one of the
gurus in the "spyware" area) that Zonelabs have part of the true
vector technology in Zone Alarm, but it DOES NOT "phone home".  In
fact, Steve actually RECOMMENDS Zone Alarm on his website
www.grc.com.  I have Ad-Aware on my system from www.lavasoft.de for
some time; this has taken over the mantle from OptOut at detecting
"spyware" and it specifically looks for keys from true vector
programs.  Ad-aware has never found spyware in Zone Alarm.  That's
good enough for me.

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changing colour of folders in The Bat?

2000-10-01 Thread epp

I sow in screenshot on TheBat web pages that folders (inbox, outbox..) are
in different colours. Can I and how can I do that?
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Re: changing colour of folders in The Bat?

2000-10-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi epp,

On 01 October 2000 at 23:19:33 GMT +0200 (which was 22:19 where I
live) epp wrote and made these points on the subject
of "changing colour of folders in The Bat?":

e I sow in screenshot on TheBat web pages that folders (inbox, outbox..) are
e in different colours. Can I and how can I do that?

By  having  unread  /  unsent  mail  in  them  ;-). They change colour
automatically - Inbox (and others) to blue, Outbox to green.

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Re: changing colour of folders in The Bat?

2000-10-01 Thread Jason Thompson


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Hello epp and everyone else...

e I sow in screenshot on TheBat web pages that folders (inbox, outbox..) are
e in different colours. Can I and how can I do that?

It has something to do with "glyphs", a term which I can not really
define other than a group of icon graphics to be used in the TB
interface. An alternate set of glyphs can be put into TB, changing
many of the icons.

About two months ago, Tony Boom posted an alternate set of glyphs on
TBOT. I can send it to you if you like as an example. If graphic
editing is your thing, you will see they are extremely easy to tweak.
:-)

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Accounts Question

2000-10-01 Thread Michael S. Greenbaum

I have just downloaded The Bat and am setting it up for the first
time.

I have two different email addresses I use.  I'd like to be able to
choose between them in the From window, but the only way I can find to
do this is by setting up two accounts for them.  This means two
inboxes which seems kind of clumsy since every time I check my mail, I
must remember to check both inboxes.  Is there a way to have all mail
go to the same inbox?

Meanwhile I have set up two accounts, but when I hit the check mail icon,
it checks only for the account which is highlighted, not for both accounts.
I did finally locate a menu item under Tools which says Check Mail for All,
and I know I can use the Alt-F2 key to do the same thing.  But is
there any way I can change the icon so that it will check mail for
both accounts?

Hope I won't get too annoying with these newbie-type questions, but I
did check the FAQ first and found nothing there.

Thanks.

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Re: Accounts Question

2000-10-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Michael,

On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:33:03 -0700GMT (02/10/2000, 11:33 +0800GMT),
Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG I have two different email addresses I use.  I'd like to be able to
MSG choose between them in the From window, but the only way I can find to
MSG do this is by setting up two accounts for them.

"Two email addresses" and "two accounts" is synonymous in The Bat!.

MSG This means two inboxes which seems kind of clumsy since every
MSG time I check my mail, I must remember to check both inboxes.

When you look at the icon closely, you will see that there is a little
arrow at the right. If you click that arrow, you will see that you can
choose which account to check, or you can click on "Check Mail for
All". ;-)

MSG Is there a way to have all mail go to the same inbox?

Yes. Have you checked out the filters yet? You can filter an incoming
email to go into any folder, even across accounts. Check out the
filtering section in the FAQ.

MSG But is there any way I can change the icon so that it will check
MSG mail for both accounts?

Already there (see above).

MSG Hope I won't get too annoying with these newbie-type questions, but I
MSG did check the FAQ first and found nothing there.

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Re: changing colour of folders in The Bat?

2000-10-01 Thread Nick Andriash

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On October 1, 2000, at 7:39:54 PM, Jason Thompson Wrote:

 About two months ago, Tony Boom posted an alternate set of glyphs on
 TBOT. I can send it to you if you like as an example. If graphic
 editing is your thing, you will see they are extremely easy to tweak.
 :-)

Jason, can you send me a copy of that Glyph file? I have no experience
with editing graphics, but I would like to try and experiment with them.
What I am after, is changing only a few of the existing icons.


Nick


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Re: Accounts Question

2000-10-01 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Michael,


On  Sunday, October 01, 2000  at  20:33:03 GMT -0700 (which was 8:33 PM
where I live) witnesses say Michael S. Greenbaum typed:

 I have just downloaded The Bat and am setting it up for the first
 time.

Welcome.  I hope you enjoy your experience with TB.

 I have two different email addresses I use.  I'd like to be able to
 choose between them in the From window, but the only way I can find to
 do this is by setting up two accounts for them.

You could create a quick template containing the macro
%From="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Give it a handle like
sa

Then when you're in the message editor, all you need to do is type
sactrl-space

 This means two inboxes which seems kind of clumsy since every time I
 check my mail, I must remember to check both inboxes. Is there a way
 to have all mail go to the same inbox?

The best way to do this is choose the minor account and set up an
incoming filter to redirect all mail to your primary account.  Then
enable Local delivery under Options - Network  Administration.

You will lose the original To: address if that's important.  The only
alternative is if your primary account doesn't use too many filters,
then you could simply have the filter *move* the incoming messages
into the primary account.  There are drawbacks to this idea too.  In
this case, your primary account will *not* refilter the moved messages
automatically.

 Meanwhile I have set up two accounts, but when I hit the check mail icon,
 it checks only for the account which is highlighted, not for both accounts.
 I did finally locate a menu item under Tools which says Check Mail for All,
 and I know I can use the Alt-F2 key to do the same thing.  But is
 there any way I can change the icon so that it will check mail for
 both accounts?

Not yet.  I too would like this feature.

 Hope I won't get too annoying with these newbie-type questions,

We were all newbies at one point.  Besides, even some of the
"old-timers" are still learning new things on a daily basis.
Questions are encouraged.

 but I did check the FAQ first and found nothing there.

That's great.  Checking the FAQ is a good thing.  :-)

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Re: Accounts Question

2000-10-01 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Thomas,

On  Sunday, October 01, 2000  at  11:49:25 GMT +0800 (which was 8:49 PM
where I live) witnesses say Thomas Fernandez typed:

 "Two email addresses" and "two accounts" is synonymous in The Bat!.

I'd like to disagree.  You can set addresses on a folder by folder and
a template by template basis.  You do not need an account for every
address that you want to use in the From field.

You need multiple accounts in TB to *check* mail from multiple
POP/IMAP accounts or to send from multiple SMTP servers.

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Re[2]: changing colour of folders in The Bat?

2000-10-01 Thread epp

JT About two months ago, Tony Boom posted an alternate set of glyphs on
JT TBOT. I can send it to you if you like as an example. If graphic
JT editing is your thing, you will see they are extremely easy to tweak.
JT :-)

Yes, please send me and I will try it. :-) thanks.
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Re: changing colour of folders in The Bat?

2000-10-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Jason,

On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:39:54 -0700GMT (02/10/2000, 10:39 +0800GMT),
Jason Thompson wrote:

JT About two months ago, Tony Boom posted an alternate set of glyphs on
JT TBOT. I can send it to you if you like as an example. If graphic
JT editing is your thing, you will see they are extremely easy to tweak.
JT :-)

Why don't you just upload it to the files area of TBOT, so anybody can
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Re: Accounts Question

2000-10-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Januk,

On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 21:12:54 -0700GMT (02/10/2000, 12:12 +0800GMT),
Januk Aggarwal wrote:

 "Two email addresses" and "two accounts" is synonymous in The Bat!.

JA I'd like to disagree.  You can set addresses on a folder by folder and
JA a template by template basis.  You do not need an account for every
JA address that you want to use in the From field.

JA You need multiple accounts in TB to *check* mail from multiple
JA POP/IMAP accounts or to send from multiple SMTP servers.

I agree with you on both counts, but I thought Michael did want to
check both email address (accounts) for email, not merely check one
but u8se different "fromn" addresses. Since he wants the message to
end up in one inbox, I further assumed that he wants to reply only
from one email address.

I have this situation as I have two "main" private accounts, one of
which I want to phase out now, and I filter everything from the "old"
one into the appropriate folders of the "new" one. So, when I reply or
send any messages, I always actually use the new account, not just the
"from" address.

Should anybody by mistake still use the old email address, it's no big
deal, I hardly notice. ;-)

JA Hope that helps clear things up.  :)

I'm not sure about Mike's purpose of wanting his messages to end up
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Re: Accounts Question

2000-10-01 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Thomas,

On  Sunday, October 01, 2000  at  12:32:52 GMT +0800 (which was 9:32 PM
where I live) witnesses say Thomas Fernandez typed:

 Since he wants the message to
 end up in one inbox, I further assumed that he wants to reply only
 from one email address.

Fair enough.  I wanted to make sure everything was totally clear.  I
use a number of forwarding addresses with all the Unix accounts I
have.  Although they all end up in the same POP account, I sometimes
want to send mail from those addresses.  That's when the difference
shows up.

 I'm not sure about Mike's purpose of wanting his messages to end up
 all in *one* inbox.

Some people want to simplify their mail systems.  For me that means
lots of filters, folders and accounts for various purposes.  For
others that means one account and one folder to read all of their
mail.  A lot depends on the volume and type of mail that you get, not
to mention user preference.

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Re: changing colour of folders in The Bat?

2000-10-01 Thread Jason Thompson



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Hello Thomas and everyone else...

JT About two months ago, Tony Boom posted an alternate set of glyphs on
JT TBOT. I can send it to you if you like as an example. If graphic
JT editing is your thing, you will see they are extremely easy to tweak.
JT :-)

TF Why don't you just upload it to the files area of TBOT, so anybody can
TF download it if they wish? ;-)

Ah, good idea. Why didn't I think of that? (no comments please!) ;-)

The file is now uploaded.

http://www.egroups.com/files/tbot/

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