Re: Rally Masters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:23:02 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: If a mailto link is invoked externally, then it's quite obvious that the user wants the message addressed only to the mailto address. NA That is not any more obvious than when clicking a MailTo link in a NA message. Where they are found has nothing to do with their intent, NA and therefore they should be treated alike. For you they don't, but for others they may be different. I sited an example before. Let me give you another: Say for arguments sake, you and another person run a tech support system. You send a copy of all outgoing tech support messages to each other. You both thankfully use TB! g and manage the tech support messages from a single folder with special templates defined. You decide to send a copy of all messages to your associate by including %To="associates address" in all templates. You now get a tech support message with the author giving a mailto link for replies. You double click the link and your template is inappropriately overruled by the assumption that you want the message addressed only to the address defined in the mailto link. Gonk! Can you provide a practical example of why someone would want a message automatically addressed to some(one|where) else when using a maito link in an external location, like a browser or an 'about' pop-up box? It would seem natural that you'd want the message addressed only to the address defined in the mailto link, and furthermore, the message shouldn't be linked to a particular folders templates. Earlier in TB!'s development, there was a big, unified complaint about external mailto links being inappropriately associated with folder templates. I had to be checking which folder was selected when invoking an external mailto link. Sometimes I had to start TB! prior to invoking the mailto link just to check this. This is why the account option "This account is the default for 'mailto' URL's" was introduced. IOW's, I agree with Marck that it's not a bug but only TB! doing as the user instructs. NA Alright, I'll agree that it may not be a 'bug', but this is a case NA where TB! *is* assuming what the User wants, I disagree and am of the opinion that TB! is doing exactly what the user asks. You define the %To macro, so TB! faithfully honours it. NA simply by the way it handles MailTo's in two different NA circumstances. Different circumstances indeed and they should be treated differently. IMHO, external mailto links shouldn't be associated with folders and their templates at all. There are some who'd like to link them to folders so the option is there. NA If TB! treated message MailTo's the same way it handles external NA one's, Once you're working within a folder, the folder templates will apply. No assumptions. :-) So take another scenario. You have a folder for a friend with templates defined: Tutsy is his pet name that you decide to use for him instead of his real name. Your new message template goes like this: Hello Tutsy, %Cursor - -- Later, Nick %Cookie="path to file containing humourous statements" %To="Jasper Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Your friend provides a mailto link for technical support and you double click it. What should TB! do now? I'm sure you wouldn't want only the %To macro omitted, right. In fact, I'm sure you wouldn't want to use the entire template. So, I've given two examples where TB! would be wrongfully assuming that the %To macro should be ignored when invoking a mailto link in a message within the folder itself, and I've given an example where you're concern would not only be with the %To macro not being ignored when invoking the mailto link, but in fact the entire template! Proposing that TB! should automatically exclude or include components of templates in particular situations without the user explicitly deciding this opens a can of worms. NA I remember reading where Allie experimented by associating his AB NA with an LDAP Server, and ended up completely losing his AB if I'm NA not mistaken. But again, this has nothing to do with using address book templates. NA No, I realize that... what we were talking about, was how finicky NA the AB can be at times, potentially affecting the AB Templates. I'm a skeptic on the claim that the AB is finicky. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOe6TYfAXeSHuB5k3EQIQtwCgsvykCV0oVfE2a9udAXls04dUxd0An29E GsegORMq+SrsEsGltu6Q/XBz =kL0J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: I lost my mail ticker!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi BillG, On 19 October 2000 at 23:13:00 GMT -0400 (which was 04:13 where I live) BillG wrote and made these points on the subject of "I lost my mail ticker!": B anyone seen my mailticker?? g B Please help me find my lost mail ticker. I once lost a mailticker. I realised that it was off-screen and resorted to hacking the registry to change the left / top location. This has to be done with TB not running because the exit from TB re-write the values to the registry. If you want to check, see HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Ticker. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] The Bible was written by the same people who said the Earth was flat. TB! v1.47 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOe7AnDnkJKuSnc2gEQJOCQCfbtmKNFUlH3R3rGdVBdHT09ofIWoAnAqX VAFc18n0rZT5glrUZLyghsKl =ruit -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Im Disgusted in the Bat and the Developers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! on Wednesday, October 18, 2000 21:00:19, our bat friend MartianRover KF6KNC typed: MK I need a good calender program, I don't suppose they make one too? MK Anyone have any recommendations? I second that, i would also like to have recommendations for any such program. - -- /Krister email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Icq: 902032 Obtain my pgp keys by sending a mail to this address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Send_pgp_keys Using The Bat 1.46c under Windows 98, V4 10, build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOe7Ifzg5SXqDEzkLEQLnIwCgmmLz4paWTrkMcxmESqiC1bMDemAAnAkf lZ5o0Xok46MUzj0/S2CxFXFx =35rD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: backup filters and templates
On Wednesday, October 18, 2000, 9:12:59 AM, David wrote: Is there a way to backup your filters and templates? Filters are stored in ACCOUNT.SRX under each account's home directory. Account templates are stored in ACCOUNT.CFG, folder templates in ACCOUNT.FLX, quick templates in ACCOUNT.QTN, all in the same directory. AB templates are, of course, in your AB files (*.ABD). The best way is to backup everything under your account's home directory. Of course, it's advisable to backup your mail as well. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB Memory usage(was: Re: Im Disgusted in the Bat and the Developers)
On Wednesday, October 18, 2000, 4:20:49 PM, Karin wrote: This was a big problem that was reported in ver. 1.44 or ver.1.45. I thought they had fixed it, but obviously not completely. It sems they haven't. Within a few hours of having restarted the computer and using TB, memory usage has increased from +8 Mb to +9 Mb. I can't say if it's completely fixed or not, but I don't see it happening. Memory usage under Windows is a complex matter. Most applications allocate memory dynamically, and Windows' memory management is pretty complicated. The total of applications and services in use, the pagefile size, the amount of data TB has to handle or cache, just to name a few, all have a impact on TB's memory usage at a given time. The fact TB is using more memory than when it started doesn't mean much. From a database point of view, TB uses many virtual tables (mail ticker, folder view, different threading, etc.), so it has to cache a lot of data. TB started yesterday at around 6 MB footprint, later it shrink to about 5 MB, when I get up this morning (my wife was doing her work while I was asleep, so neithere the computer nor TB was idling around), it's at 4 MB! After some uses, it's now at, let me check, 11 MB. I usually leaves TB running for days. If there's a memory leakage, it should swell indefinitely, but that's not the case here. Of course, it's still possible TB leaks. It might happen in some program modules I don't use (mail ticker, e.g.), so I never see it happens. It might also happen in some versions of Windows, but not others. (In general, my experience is Win2k manages memory better than NT4 and Win95/98.) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
AB Search Peculiarity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello BatListers, If I search my AB on the parent folder [I have 4-5 group subfolders] TB! does not return any name listed in a subgroup. This doesn't make much sense to me. What am I doing wrong or is this just the way it is? If so, what's the logic behind this? Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOe28dJccVS5MnN+dEQIo7QCg6OLwFk9wasd/Z+jItnDXnoDWZqsAoJ+2 SXBgCv9AVb/E9wOhK8+a9LxN =Tw1Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Common component?
On Wednesday, October 18, 2000, 6:37:19 PM, Don wrote: I've been testing The Bat! off an on for several days and am very impressed with the software. However, I'm a user who likes for mail for all accounts to share a common "destination" -- it all arrives in one inbox for further sorting as I need it. The easiest way to do this is to enable the "Allow local delivery" option in "Options | Network Administration". Then create a filter for each account (other than the main account) that *redirects* (NOT moves) mail to the main account. Normally, a redirected message would be re-sent out to the Internet, but the "Allow local delivery" option would cause TB to deliver it locally, without using your smtp server. If you set the filter to *move* mail to the Inbox of the main account, filters of the main account won't apply. With re-direction, however, it's handled as received mail and filtered accordingly. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Slow when downloading mail
Anyone else noticed that when The Bat! is actually downloading mail their whole machine slows right down? Even downloading a 2k email seems to momentarily slow it down to a crawl. Andy D Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Which HTML format to choose?
Hello TBUDL, I am subscribed to some mailing lists where I can choose formatting of messages. The options are usually something like: Outlook Express Netscape Eudora WebTV Web based email (HotMail) Other web enabled mail reader Plain text Sometimes there are even more options. To get the best HTML formatting within The Bat! which formatting would be the best to choose? I mean, does anyone know what The Bat!'s HTML rendering resembles and what would be the best option? (And please don't tell me to use plain text even though you may be a e-mail format "purist". I *want* HTML in these cases :) -- Best regards, Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://christian.dysthe.tripod.com ICQ: 3945810 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: using %QUOTESTYLE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi BatListers. In a post time stamped 17:01:15 -0500 re: using %QUOTESTYLE A. Curtis Martin wrote: ACM The %quotestyle macro must precede the %quotes macro in your ACM template. If not, it will not work. When ready to place the ACM quotes macro, do it like this: ACM %Quotestyle="F"%Quotes Can %QUOTESTYLE work with "clipboard"? An example of this usage would be this post. TB! folder is set to reply using %QUOTESTYLE="F"%QUOTES. Now Mr. Martin uses "A. Curtis Martin" so the first name "ACM" appear. I might have wanted to use "Curtis" or "Mr Martin". Could I implement this , if so, how? Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOe8MZpccVS5MnN+dEQJtZQCdGEmjVAHaI14TWhgMA9jN3/8S3LoAoLOc OZQIbpPj6wOziupyGn5mUvNF =VKEc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: using %QUOTESTYLE
In Reference to "using %QUOTESTYLE" From Jan Rifkinson: " J Can %QUOTESTYLE work with "clipboard"? Here's my post from a few days ago on this very subject: Here's something someone wacky as myself might find handy In trying to find a way to use the quoting prefix in a particular way for a couple of my customers, but without having to make a bunch of special reply templates I fell across this combo: %QUOTESTYLE="=%CLIPBOARD" Quite handy to swipe the customer's first name, or business abbreviation, or other special designation you might want to use and then let the reply rip. Not for everyone that's for sure, but it works quite nicely for my particular nitch I was trying to fill. To "cancel" it out I either give the clipboard a quick clear, or CP a blank space for a fast little one space indent. -- ò¸ó Nick [MUA: TB! 1.47 Beta/7] Danger [OS: Win98 4.10 1998] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Clean up formatting?
10/19/2000 at 11:59 AM One of the things that I really miss from using Eudora, was Eudora's word wrap plug-in- that let you cleanup the broken formatting in a message that you were trying to read. I am finding that I often have incorrect returns in messages that I am trying to read in the Bat!, especially ones that have been forwarded a number of times before I get to see them. Is there a way similar to the "word wrap" Eudora plug-in to cleanup and remove extraneous carriage returns in the Bat!? Thanks. -- -Nick+ (The Rev.) W. Nicholas Knisely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trinity Episcopal Church[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bethlehem, PA www.trinitybeth.org Information wants to be anthropomorphized. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Rally Masters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On October 19, 2000, at 7:40:47 AM, Ming-Li Wrote: I'm constantly amused by how we expect TB to do things in a certain way without thinking how others might want it differently, and how on earth TB could distinguish them from us. :) I couldn't agree with you more Ming-Li... and that is why TB! shouldn't even try. It should simply adopt the standards as laid out in RFC 2368 which clearly defines a MailTo link: "The mailto URL scheme is used to designate the Internet mailing address of an individual or service. In its simplest form, a mailto URL contains an Internet mail address." ...RFC 2368 It requires no further addressing on the part of the MUA, and it would be presumptuous to do otherwise. The MUA should simply create the message to the *designated* address, and allow the User to edit the message, send this message unedited, or choose not to send the message. :o) Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.47B7 | PGP 7.0 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ___ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Join PGP-Basics at http://www.egroups.com/group/PGP-Basics iQA/AwUBOe8b/MUChHR7o/3OEQJgFQCgpYiQuNnGrMj5abOLOHfV8Aw3fC4AoOLA SWFoyyE2+gmGZHR6Wye5UoBc =f5XZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Clean up formatting?
On 19-10-2000 at 18:02, Nick Knisely kindly wrote: One of the things that I really miss from using Eudora, was Eudora's word wrap plug-in- that let you cleanup the broken formatting in a message that you were trying to read. All you need to do is selct the offending paragraph and press alt-L: it will reformat. - K - -- Being an artist is not a profession. It is a dilemma. - Performer and artist Ulay -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Clean up formatting?
All you need to do is selct the offending paragraph and press alt-L: it will reformat. Is there also a way to get a whole email to reformat without losing the paragraphs? I tried selecting the whole email text, but that causes all the paragraphs to run together. I'd like to keep the paragraph structure but format within the paragraphs without having to do each one separately. Thanks. Mike Greenbaum -- JANUS BOOKS, LTD. Post Office Box 40787 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 Fax: 815-333-2938 Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover accepted. Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Replying to message dated Thursday, October 19, 2000, at 9:25 AM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, October 19, 2000,9:25:01 AM, you wrote: Hello Karin, KS On 19-10-2000 at 18:02, Nick Knisely kindly wrote: One of the things that I really miss from using Eudora, was Eudora's word wrap plug-in- that let you cleanup the broken formatting in a message that you were trying to read. KS All you need to do is selct the offending paragraph and KS press alt-L: it will reformat. This doesn't seem to work when _reading_ messages. All my computer does is beep when I select a paragraph and hit alt-L. Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows 98se 4.10 On an AMD K6/3 450 w/128mb RAM - PGP Key ID: 0x49DAB350 PGP key available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendPGPKey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOe8kCwtFPzpJ2rNQEQLljACgs18NegmJ4uAF9AR1I74/6RvTUEoAoMEj 3igiUa8COz8Y7ReprfpA5h3X =usnL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Rally Masters
On Thursday, October 19, 2000, 9:06:23 AM, Nick wrote: I'm constantly amused by how we expect TB to do things in a certain way without thinking how others might want it differently, and how on earth TB could distinguish them from us. :) I couldn't agree with you more Ming-Li... and that is why TB! shouldn't even try. It should simply adopt the standards as laid out in RFC 2368 which clearly defines a MailTo link: Looks like we are reaching different conclusion from the same starting point. :) "The mailto URL scheme is used to designate the Internet mailing address of an individual or service. In its simplest form, a mailto URL contains an Internet mail address." ...RFC 2368 Home come I got the feeling that you're stretching a little bit. :) It requires no further addressing on the part of the MUA, and it would be presumptuous to do otherwise. The MUA should simply create the message to the *designated* address, and allow the User to edit the message, send this message unedited, or choose not to send the message. :o) Well, the RFC doesn't say anything about template, does it? In TB, it has to honor the folder template, which is a specified order from the user. As I said, it would be nice if TB could make available an additional option where the folder template (or even all templates) could be ignored under such circumstances. But I don't agree TB *should* simply disregard my templates when I click on a mailto link. I don't think the RFC *requires* that, however you stretch it. :-) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Im Disgusted in the Bat and the Developers
Hello A. Curtis Martin, On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:19:07 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, October 19, 2000, 10:19:07 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, A. Curtis Martin wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:59:15 -0400, Rich wrote: A Very interesting. How much RAM does your system pack? R 256MB also.. 3*128 mb strips, P3-700 crunching at around 900 14 accounts, not all in use, main one has about 2 messages. Wow! That was unexpected. g A For me TB! is usually hovering between 9 and 12MB of RAM, but I have A a lot of RAM ... 256MB. TB!'s RAM usage tends to be somewhat A dynamic. R Seems that wayMine stays pretty stable, It's never been over 5mb R on my machine. Windows 2000 with SP1 with 256MB. SP1 here as well. Wow! That's even more unexpected. A couple more things then. How many accounts do you have and approximately how many messages do you have in them? Do you store your attachments as a part of your messages or separately in the attachments folder? My attachments are separate I personally store attachments in message bodies and I have three accounts with a total of 40K messages. A couple of my folders contain over 6,000 messages. I'm quite convinced that the disparity in RAM usage has to do with having to do with the accounts/folder structure, and message bases. Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.47 Beta/5 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Replying to message dated Thursday, October 19, 2000, at 9:25 AM
On 19-10-2000 at 18:40, Wayne Black kindly wrote: Thursday, October 19, 2000,9:25:01 AM, you wrote: KS All you need to do is selct the offending paragraph and KS press alt-L: it will reformat. This doesn't seem to work when _reading_ messages. All my computer does is beep when I select a paragraph and hit alt-L. Indeed, formatting only works when the editor is active. - K - -- A virus is only doing its job. It's trying to live its life. The fact that it's destroying you by doing so is not its fault. - David Cronenberg in an interview -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Replying to message dated Thursday, October 19, 2000, at 9:25 AM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On October 19, 2000, at 9:40:24 AM, Wayne Black Wrote: This doesn't seem to work when _reading_ messages. All my computer does is beep when I select a paragraph and hit alt-L. Alt-L, or Utlilities/Format Block is a function of the Editor, and will only work when replying to a message, and not when viewing in the preview pane, or reading an opened message like you can in Eudora. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.47B7 | PGP 7.0 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ___ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Join PGP-Basics at http://www.egroups.com/group/PGP-Basics iQA/AwUBOe8otsUChHR7o/3OEQIxiQCdFAOdIiOjcm4M0wmUZTY5XM64VFEAnA57 Fyf7eg4dTTDZYiDoXq8LgdYg =hXDh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Rally Masters
On October 19, 2000, at 9:44:06 AM, Ming-Li Wrote: As I said, it would be nice if TB could make available an additional option where the folder template (or even all templates) could be ignored under such circumstances. Ok, I'll go along with that. ;o) Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.47B7 | PGP 7.0 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ___ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Replying to message dated Thursday, October 19, 2000, at 9:25 AM
At 12:40 PM 10/19/2000, you wrote: One of the things that I really miss from using Eudora, was Eudora's word wrap plug-in- that let you cleanup the broken formatting in a message that you were trying to read. KS All you need to do is selct the offending paragraph and KS press alt-L: it will reformat. This doesn't seem to work when _reading_ messages. All my computer does is beep when I select a paragraph and hit alt-L This is the problem I'm having. I can reformat messages as I compose them, but I can't reformat messages that I am reading. Since in my line of work, I often get long position pieces forwarded to me, composed in who-knows-what email editor, the way they appear in the Bat! is highly variable. Eudora let's me clean them up for reading, I can't find a similar ability in the Bat! (The Rev.) W. Nicholas Knisely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trinity Episcopal Churchwww.trinitybeth.org Bethlehem, Pennsylvania -But you've taken the Universe out of context! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Slow when downloading mail
Hello Andrew, On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:58:22 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, October 19, 2000, 9:58:22 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Andrew wrote: Anyone else noticed that when The Bat! is actually downloading mail their whole machine slows right down? Even downloading a 2k email seems to momentarily slow it down to a crawl. Shouldnt unless your download east resources need for other things. ie how much ram left, hard disk space, anti virus reunning etc etc. Andy D Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.47 Beta/5 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Which HTML format to choose?
Hello Christian, Thursday, October 19, 2000, 5:30:28 PM, Christian Dysthe wrote: (And please don't tell me to use plain text even though you may be a e-mail format "purist". I *want* HTML in these cases :) Exactly. HTML is NOT an e-mail standard. It's non-official extension only. Just use M$ Word RTF for e-mail format... Joke... Outlook lets use this. Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
pgp complete msg signing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hello batlisters! if i use the template option "%signcomplete" i get an error when trying to send the message. the error looks like the following after confirming my passphrase: "there is no certificate of signature for account" and "no valid certificate of signature found. message can not be signed with s/mime." both are tb! error notifications, not pgp's. if i sign the msg manually with pgpi ver6.5.8 there's no problem. anybody help? Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] um meinen PGP key zu erhalten, schicke eine email an folgende adresse: to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOe8hXEEJciaSUjmtEQIX9gCgnxGzy5OBkFpsrFzejFCybXt9eFwAoIGg Bu1NEdr0yOUmH5j5DIDYbjtp =cGdN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Which HTML format to choose?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Christian, Thursday, October 19, 2000, 4:30:28 PM, you wrote: CD To get the best HTML formatting within The Bat! which formatting CD would be the best to choose? I mean, does anyone know what The CD Bat!'s HTML rendering resembles and what would be the best option? CD (And please don't tell me to use plain text even though you may be a CD e-mail format "purist". I *want* HTML in these cases :) Sorry, but that's exactly what I'm going to tell you. I use TB's filtering to delete all posters who regularly post in HTML to the mailing lists I subscribe to. You may want HTML but does everyone else? I just don't see the posts of HTML posters once they have sent their first message. :o) - -- Best regards, Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [PGP Key ID: 0x3A11C042] [The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOe8xKSDffic6EcBCEQJn/ACfd44Q8WSNsHfnoDWdHBcJYEZ1jzgAnR32 5mFuPaoXUlRL+swzWXzSQ1IE =oNtO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Which HTML format to choose?
Christian Dysthe wrote: I am subscribed to some mailing lists where I can choose formatting of messages. The options are usually something like: Outlook Express Netscape Eudora WebTV Web based email (HotMail) Other web enabled mail reader Plain text Sometimes there are even more options. To get the best HTML formatting within The Bat! which formatting would be the best to choose? I mean, does anyone know what The Bat!'s HTML rendering resembles and what would be the best option? Well, I would guess that Netscape HTML is the best option. Just try the different options and report the results! :) (And please don't tell me to use plain text even though you may be a e-mail format "purist". I *want* HTML in these cases :) I receive some *newsletters* too which really look better in HTML, i.e. much more newspaper-like. In general, I hate HTML e-mails, but a weekly/monthly newsletter in HTML is fine. -- Christian Gassmann The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 6, RC 1.5 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: pgp complete msg signing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Salut Kari, jeudi 19 octobre 2000, 19:29:30, tu discourais: KJ if i use the template option "%signcomplete" i get an error when KJ trying to send the message. the error looks like the following KJ after confirming my passphrase: KJ "there is no certificate of signature for account" KJ and KJ "no valid certificate of signature found. message can not be signed KJ with s/mime." KJ both are tb! error notifications, not pgp's. KJ if i sign the msg manually with pgpi ver6.5.8 there's no problem KJ anybody help? I have the same problem with sign (and crypt) when completed, I have the same message. But, I have found a solution, in my "Privacy" menu the option "Enable S/MIME" is all the time ON, and when i make this option OFF, I can send mails with PGP. My problem is that this option is all the time ON, I must at each mail make OFF this option . what can I do ? The problem is appear with the 1.46 version. A+ Did, - - -- Ligue d'Alsace de Course d'Orientation http://www.multimania.com/alsaceco ICQ 3606331 - - -- Clé publique PGP envoyée sur simple demande -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOe8tLGeN9qg0/Bp0EQIwywCeLKfA2myh4xflEFfG/8/jOQDo0qMAoOM3 XG5hPNkBZm0+Rg4kw/j/hXX5 =zJFl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: pgp complete msg signing
Thor wrote: [S/MIME] My problem is that this option is all the time ON, I must at each mail make OFF this option . what can I do ? Go to Account Properties/Options and turn S/MIME off there. HTH -- Christian Gassmann The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 6, RC 1.5 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Im Disgusted in the Bat and the Developers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello MartianRover! On Wednesday, October 18, 2000 at 9:00:19 PM you wrote: I need a good calender program, I don't suppose they make one too? Anyone have any recommendations? Maybe this can help: http://www.ThomasGross.de/pdk.htm - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.46d Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Silence is the virtue of fools. (Francis Bacon) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOe8x0vTo1oA8g8dLEQJVpwCgzONxPGI9CxIOZwvaVHyOleSdLWwAn0oC 1DrvO27AVTqZCy+X5vNPKJrK =ZPC2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Stack Overflow in TB.exe - Help, please.
Hi TBers, If I try to email to anyone at earthlink.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TB stalls and I get the following error message: "Exception E Stack Overflow in module THEBAT.EXE at 7DEF3037 Stack Overlow" This is a new phenomenon. It follows right on the heels of a recent infection of my system by the Win32.Mtx virus which came through TB as an email attachment. (Yes, yes, I know I was an idiot for opening it, but it came from a trusted source, seemed appropriate in the guise in which it discuised itself, and all the other usual chagrined excuses.) I cleaned the system -- successfully, I thought, and so my AV program reports -- but I am left now with this inability to mail to anyone at earthlink.net. Can anyone help? Thanks, Jerry -- Here's a typical RFC (one that causes the stack overflow) if it's of any aid: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net ([207.217.121.50]) by mtiwgwc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 22:34:51 + Received: from earthlink.net (user-2ive66s.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.24.220]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14138 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 18:37:22 + From: IsraelDavid Fishman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Mundis Letter: "Solvency/Making Peace with Money" References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: pgp complete msg signing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Salut Christian, jeudi 19 octobre 2000, 20:33:21, tu discourais: CG Go to Account Properties/Options and turn S/MIME off there. Tank you for you answer, it's work fine ! A+ Did, - -- Ligue d'Alsace de Course d'Orientation http://www.multimania.com/alsaceco ICQ 3606331 - -- Clé publique PGP envoyée sur simple demande -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOe8zymeN9qg0/Bp0EQJg2wCfQCq+5ma/YGxwMB+nKfgupvksVOYAoMr/ ZMkIxO2rBNmPY9SN7Z0URBsX =f7bA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Which HTML format to choose?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Paul! On Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 7:39:45 PM you wrote: CD (And please don't tell me to use plain text even though you may be a CD e-mail format "purist". I *want* HTML in these cases :) Sorry, but that's exactly what I'm going to tell you. I use TB's filtering to delete all posters who regularly post in HTML to the mailing lists I subscribe to. You may want HTML but does everyone else? I just don't see the posts of HTML posters once they have sent their first message. :o) I am sorry, too, but you are way beyond his point. I don't like HTML in e-mail or usenet either but he will not *write* HTML as far as I understand him. He just wants to *read* it, at least I hope so. I agree with Christian, there are some newsletters which use HTML to their advantage (i.e. clever index as links in the newsletter with additional links to homepage). An example would be the german newsletter "PCWelt". - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.46d Windows 95 4.0 1212 C There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, and statistics. (Benjamin Disraeli/Mark Twain) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOe80WvTo1oA8g8dLEQJG9ACdGY8+/ucXfVxlZUwcwJ0ZnRynZdoAoIti 9dtviC5Kb7jxV0a+GRPfVvSM =6hqF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: pgp complete msg signing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thor! On Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 8:19:39 PM you wrote: My problem is that this option is all the time ON, I must at each mail make OFF this option . what can I do ? The problem is appear with the 1.46 version. Account-Properties-Options, here just uncheck S/MIME and leave options for PGP on as you need them. With 1.46 S/MIME was introduced and - sadly - enabled as standard; my own preferences are for PGP (discussions of this point are found endlessly in the Net, so I don't go into it - now and never). - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.46d Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. (Samuel Butler) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOe8zVvTo1oA8g8dLEQLmlgCgrNqv96CgCOm9+018K2EmvBLwrgMAoJyE Ozk0B8ksIe/cLBrdUEDmzxK7 =zBsr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Which HTML format to choose?
Hello Paul, at least these lists have options. I choose HTML in some cases and do not need to be told what I *should* prefer. Plain text is great for most e-mail correspondence I do, but some newsletters are easier to deal with being somewhat formatted. For instance, reading long tables in plain text is a drag. Having them formatted make them much easier to deal with. Geesh, I *knew* I would have to defend my preference for HTML mail after this posting. I just knew it! But I am happy for you having these filters set punishing people using html mail by not reading their posts! ;) Thursday, October 19, 2000, 12:39:45 PM, you wrote: PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- PW Hash: SHA1 PW Hello Christian, PW Thursday, October 19, 2000, 4:30:28 PM, you wrote: PW Sorry, but that's exactly what I'm going to tell you. I use TB's PW filtering to delete all posters who regularly post in HTML to the PW mailing lists I subscribe to. You may want HTML but does everyone PW else? I just don't see the posts of HTML posters once they have sent PW their first message. :o) PW - -- PW Best regards, PW Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PW [PGP Key ID: 0x3A11C042] PW [The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7] PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- PW Version: PGP 6.5i PW iQA/AwUBOe8xKSDffic6EcBCEQJn/ACfd44Q8WSNsHfnoDWdHBcJYEZ1jzgAnR32 PW 5mFuPaoXUlRL+swzWXzSQ1IE PW =oNtO PW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Best regards, Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://christian.dysthe.tripod.com ICQ: 3945810 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Which HTML format to choose?
Hello Michal, Thursday, October 19, 2000, 12:05:55 PM, you wrote: MK Hello Christian, MK Just use M$ Word RTF for e-mail format... Joke... Outlook lets use MK this. I use e-mail for all kinds of business correspondence. I can't dictate how major companies who also are my clients compose or deliver their mail. I live in the real world and have to deal with what's thrown at me. The Bat! is a fantastic e-mail package for professionals. I am so glad that formatting politics hasn't prevented The Bat!'s development team from implementing an html reading option. 'nuff said! :) MK Best regards -- Best regards, Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://christian.dysthe.tripod.com ICQ: 3945810 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Which HTML format to choose?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Christian, Thursday, October 19, 2000, 9:03:26 PM, you wrote: CD Geesh, I *knew* I would have to defend my preference for HTML CD mail after this posting. I just knew it! If you are *receiving* HTML newsletters then that is fine by me. I'm sorry if I misunderstood your original e-mail. CD But I am happy for you having these filters set punishing CD people using html mail by not reading their posts! ;) The main reason I filter them out is because on a couple of lists that I subscribe to these posters are repeatedly asked *not* to post in HTML yet continue to do so. They are even threatened with being banned from the list! Most of them seem to be using Outlook Express and probably do not know how to change the settings. As you may know HTML is enabled by default :o) - -- Best regards, Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [PGP Key ID: 0x3A11C042] [The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOe9Z3iDffic6EcBCEQIdiwCff9vb7lpA/RegknUUmhD5RxB3BYwAoLZ4 6NTCpKIRUsAseGNzkEPm9sF/ =t/Dm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Which HTML format to choose?
Hello Christian, On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 at 10:30:28 GMT -0500 (which was 8:30 AM where I live) witnesses say Christian Dysthe typed: To get the best HTML formatting within The Bat! which formatting would be the best to choose? I mean, does anyone know what The Bat!'s HTML rendering resembles and what would be the best option? My guess is most of them should work fine. I would suggest that you should choose the option based on your browser. As you probably know, TB will not search the net for images and that sort of thing. To view these types of messages properly, I just launch the HTML part in my default browser. It's easy enough if you disable HTML autoview in TB. Then by default, TB shows the plain text part with an attachment containing the HTML part. A quick double click launches my default browser and I'm off to the races. I *want* HTML in these cases :) I can think of lots of cases where HTML is more appropriate. To avoid a large debate, I recommend anyone interested in this topic should take a look at A. Curtis Martin's post: Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 16:45:22 -0500 From: A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Replying to your message dated Thursday, September 14, 2000, at 9:54 AM You can view it in the archives by visiting: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg13805.html This is a very well written overview of this debate. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Rally Masters
Nick Andriash Said about "Rally Masters": NA If it's a matter of 'focus', is there no way to remedy the problem so NA one can use Folder Templates without fear or worry? You can suppress problems with folder templates and mailto, if you calling The Bat! from your browser with following command: /focusf="\\MyAccount\Inbox" mailto:%a Zeljko -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Rally Masters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:40:47 -0700, Ming-Li wrote: ML Given the frequency such mistake is made, however, I think it would ML be a good idea for RIT to address it with an additional option ML (something like "don't use folder template when clicking a mailto ML link"). Eh, does it have to be a per-folder setting? :) There's such an option but only for external mailto links. In the account properties, there's an option 'this account is the default for mailto: URL's'. If you enable this option, the default template for the account and not folder templates will be applied. Unfortunately this option doesn't apply for mailto: URL's in messages within TB! folders. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "1200 bps used to seem so fast " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOe9itfAXeSHuB5k3EQIgxgCfcOuHe/wu4VSn/kZfqsBLXVmvRyMAoMiJ AuHT4EA82szHOhZ+8fFOtuFA =LENc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Odd problem just recent
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/10/2000 11:05 : Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:08:06 -0400 From: Jason Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the info, but I can't see that that's it. For one thing, I am running across a network, not via dial-up. Though I do have TB set to download mail automatically, I do not have the specific network settings option that you mentioned enabled. But I agree - it seems to happen after there's been a connection glitch (when our mail server hangs or the network drops packets for a few minutes when TB is trying to check mail), so your assumption it has something to do with that is a good one - well, ever since you started this thread, Jason, I've been experiencing the 'blip' constantly(!) - it's driving me crazy too. You must've somehow remotely influenced my TB! settings ...g :) I've now set the Network settings to "LAN or manual connection", but it still keeps popping up ... at least it now appears *in front* of TB so I can easily spot and cancel it. I just keep fiddling with *all* the settings, hoping I'll stumble across the answer. Cheers, Friday, 20 October 2000 08:49 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Rally Masters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/10/2000 12:14 : Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 15:51:28 -0700 From: Nick Andriash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folder level Templates are by far more convenient to use. They seem the 'natural' choice to me, too. Cheers, Friday, 20 October 2000 09:16 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Rally Masters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/10/2000 11:25 : Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:57:31 -0500 From: A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't use the %To macro in your folder templates you don't have to worry about anything. thanks Curtis - you're right, I've never used the %TO macro :) Friday, 20 October 2000 09:03 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: IMAP folders do not appear!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/10/2000 12:14 : Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:47:48 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Winn) In my view, this is one place where OE has it right and TB! has it wrong. What MS understood and TB! creators might be missing is that IMAP isn't just a POP replacement as far as a protocol for transferring mail, it is truly a remote-messaging system, so that all information should be stored on the server, and it should all always be available to all clients. This is the basic philosophy of IMAP which isn't catered to very well by TB!'s interface or operation. I must say I agree with this entirely. My webhost just recently implemented IMAP4 and those users with OE5 are able to access those features, as you described. Quite apart from the fact that properly functioning IMAP mail would be of tremendous help to me, I find the thought *unbearable* that OE can boast a feature that's better than in TB! Enough to make me weep g ... Regards, Friday, 20 October 2000 09:10 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Rally Masters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/10/2000 11:05 : Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:20:08 +0100 From: "Marck D. Pearlstone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you only ever reply to messages in their folders and never through the ticker or search virtual folders then there's no problem. You must be able to guarantee that you will check all addresses on new messages, whether generated from the AB favourites list, from a generic new message command or from an external mailto click, any of which can be randomly affected by whichever folder currently has the focus in the TB main window. In the long run, AB templates are *much* safer by an order of magnitude. thanks - I get the message :) I'll keep an eye on things. Basically, I have my mailbox accounts set up with specific templates; I only use folder templates for two folders related to mailing lists, where I only ever reply to mail within those folders. I guess I haven't used AB templates much because I don't really need lots of different templates just for different individual email addresses; and I haven't used the Group feature a lot in the AB, so far. I'm assuming that when you talk about AB templates, you mean mainly ones for address groups (rather than individuals)? Regards, Friday, 20 October 2000 08:56 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.46d ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Replying to message dated Thursday, October 19, 2000, at 9:25 AM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:40:24 -0700, Wayne Black wrote: [snip] KS All you need to do is selct the offending paragraph and KS press alt-L: it will reformat. WB This doesn't seem to work when _reading_ messages. All my computer WB does is beep when I select a paragraph and hit alt-L. TB! doesn't allow you to reformat a received message from the message viewer. You have to move the message to the outbox, open it in the TB! editor and then do the reformat from there. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "He who sitteth on an upturned tack shall surely rise. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOe9px/AXeSHuB5k3EQKhZQCgiSYbnqcA7Z5KqIVaJMfD0FZbqO8AoOY6 Iupz/RStnSGdb1nbK5orqLaC =mXo6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: I lost my mail ticker!
Yep - That was it! I had been experimented with different screen resolutions - that pushed my ticker into a far corner, so when I switched back to my default, it was gone! Thanks Marck! Bill Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: B Please help me find my lost mail ticker. I once lost a mailticker. I realised that it was off-screen and resorted to hacking the registry to change the left / top location. This has to be done with TB not running because the exit from TB re-write the values to the registry. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Clean up formatting?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:35:27 -0700, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: MSG I tried selecting the whole email text, but that causes all the MSG paragraphs to run together. I'd like to keep the paragraph structure MSG but format within the paragraphs without having to do each one MSG separately. No, you can't format everything in one shot with TB!. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Political panjandrums prologize pedantic paronomasia. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 (S/N CCA4F9B8) «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOe9pP/AXeSHuB5k3EQJ0NQCgj+L0ltLNPRuRqpUNqx24FI4CdvAAn0FC FBR6NVDBOAG2V1dEsHuYuy6/ =jUHo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Rally Masters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Britta, On 19 October 2000 at 09:01:09 GMT +1300 (which was 21:01 where I live) Britta wrote and made these points on the subject of "Rally Masters": B I'm assuming that when you talk about AB templates, you mean mainly B ones for address groups (rather than individuals)? I use both, with "Group" level templates covering the "norm" and then singling out individual addresses for extra special treatment. My "Moderator" signature, reserved for TBUDL and TBBETA is replaced by a "Consultant Software Engineer" version of essentially the same sig. block for general "Contacts" and "Colleagues", while "Friends" and "Family" get variants of a "Love from" type sig and no professional accreditations. Since these "Contacts" are spread around various project folders, and friends and family have individual folder repositories having folder templates is the long-hand way of maintaining it. The lists I belong to are each treated differently because of the way I use reply attribution so each has an individual AB entry bearing the required template. AB templates is a much tidier way to go for me. It strikes me that most people would have similar requirements, hence my advocacy of AB templates over folder templates. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Kids Stuff: In looking at a drop of water under a microscope, we find there are twice as many H's as O's. TB! v1.47 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOe9vODnkJKuSnc2gEQK9vwCg+ps9ct6l1mQnU1JIBzWVxe0GxdIAn3ry 9u5KPF856FSFMXT2aD4p7/GL =NGir -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
Really, Curtis? Is that a fix that has happened since ver 1.45? I use the %quotes macro in my reply template, but as you can see, I still get the blank lines. I am using version 1.45. Please tell me that this problem is fixed in 1.46d! I will upgrade immediately! Thanks Bill Grant A. Curtis Martin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:14:05 +1300, Britta wrote: Do you use the %quotes macro to quote text for your replies or do you always manually copy and paste as quote? B I have the %QUOTES macro in my Reply template; but for mailing list B replies (because I'm mostly on digests and they tend to be long) I B normally copy+paste just the bit I want to reply to. Manual copy and pasting as quote will lead to blank lines being quoted. However, quotations generated using the quotes macro will not have blank lines being quoted. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Im Disgusted in the Bat and the Developers
I had been having numerous Access Violation errors every day while running TB under win98SE. I have 15 accounts (8 real accounts 7 send-only/sorting accounts). I keep all attachments in the mail messages so I always have them handy. Total messages are over 23,000. I just wanted to say that I installed Win2000 Pro two days ago and so far have had not one Access Violation from TB. I did a completely fresh install so that I would not have any junk from win98 left behind. -Troy -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
