Re: Digest (02/24/2001 22:42) Special Issue (#2001-859)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On Saturday, February 24, 2001 at 6:28:02 PM you wrote: When I use GMX's SMTP server, I just set TB to POP before SMTP. I never changed anything in the options on the GMX web interface. Works fine. You don't have to change anything through their web interface. When GMX implemented SMTP authentication I checked this in TB! and never did anything on the web. And it worked. Then someone posted that you have to change the option at GMX, well, I did, and it works still. Conclusion: Doesn't actually matter what you check or uncheck on the homepage of GMX. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.49 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wenn rger im Menschen ist, so macht er selten das Klgste, sondern gewhnlich das Dmmste. (Jeremias Gotthelf) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOpiuSfTo1oA8g8dLEQKykACg2Aj/+PvqTGJlF9ixnwPPfQ4z3NUAoObd rMDsQUPqsOpFI+qnC++yOsiS =Ubl9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 6:14:23 AM you wrote: How do you do that? Mine runs and runs and runs and runs... like an old VW. If I'd knew ... I asked here two times - once last summer for an office machine with an age old ATI graphics adapter under Windows 98, a second time a few weeks ago for my own comp with a Matrox G400 DH - and only got one answer telling me "Confirmed". Well, what ever the prob is, look at the archives where I elaborated a bit for technical details. Since I don't have an all-day-open line now (and enter my password every time I fetch or send mail), for the moment the MT is not that important to me. Adding in a side note: I really like the feature and will use it some day, when it runs smoothly and telephone and Internet rates are better in Germany (last so called flat rate has just been cancelled). - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.49 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C I never think of the future. It comes soon enough. (Albert Einstein) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOpix/vTo1oA8g8dLEQKHXgCg5qiAfW8ccHfdrbQOof/bXa4wyOkAn2aU eI/IlzQ8ug0iZg+FFOy4UdXs =aK58 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Problems - Can someone HELP ME?
Hello TBUDL, Today I had to reinstall theBat and by accident when the pop-up window asked if I wanted to delete my mail folders, I must have said yes. Sadly, I have not backed up any of these and now they are gone. Is there any way to get them back. Also, when I click on the hyperlink in messages, theBat does not engage my browser. This is why I reinstalled, thinking that something wasn't configured properly. Now theBat will not open up my browser. What do I do? Lastly, this all started because I was having difficulty getting mail from my Yahoo! account. Everything was working fine, but yesterday for some unknown reason, theBat will not download them to my desktop. I have asked Yahoo! for help but have not received a reply. I asked my ISP if they started blocking external mail accounts but they said No. What gives? I could sure use some help right now - especially trying to re-capture my lost mail folders. -- Best regards, janets83 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders
Hello TBUDL, I am using theBat Version 1.49 with Win95. Earlier I sent a message asking for help but had not read the full rules of posting here. I shouted in the Subject Line and now I understand I ought to have written *help*. Please accept my appologies. Now that I know better, I will repost in the proper form. Today I had to reinstall theBat and by accident when the pop-up window asked if I wanted to delete my mail folders, I must have said yes. Sadly, I have not backed up any of these and now they are gone. Is there any way to get them back? Also, when I click on the hyperlink in messages, theBat does not engage my browser. This is why I reinstalled, thinking that something wasn't configured properly. Now theBat will not open up my browser and I have to "copy" and "paste". Over the long hall this is going to be extremely annoying. What do I do? Lastly, these problems all started because I was having difficulty getting mail from my Yahoo! account. Everything was working fine, but yesterday for some unknown reason, theBat would not download them to my desktop. I have asked Yahoo! for help but have not received a reply. I asked my ISP if they started blocking external mail accounts but they said No. What gives? I am truly having a major, problem day and need to fix this somehow. I could sure use some help right now - especially trying to re-capture my lost mail folders. By the way, I am not all that clear on what happens after I send this. Does it go to the main discussion group and someone answers if and when they have seen this; or does it go straight to someone's desktop and they will respond as soon as possible. I guess you can tell this is my first time here and I'm sorry if I am not following protocol, but I will learn as I go along. Thanks -- Best regards, Jan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders
Hallo Jan, On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 01:48:19 -0800 GMT (25/02/2001, 17:48 +0800 GMT), Jan wrote: J Earlier I sent a message asking for help but had not read the full J rules of posting here. I shouted in the Subject Line and now I J understand I ought to have written *help*. Please accept my J appologies. Now that I know better, I will repost in the proper J form. No prob. ;-) J Today I had to reinstall theBat and by accident when the pop-up J window asked if I wanted to delete my mail folders, I must have said J yes. Sadly, I have not backed up any of these and now they are J gone. Is there any way to get them back? Are they still on the harddsik? If not, they are probably gone. It is always better to make regular updates, and especially when you reinstall the software. J Also, when I click on the hyperlink in messages, theBat does not J engage my browser. This is why I reinstalled, thinking that J something wasn't configured properly. Now theBat will not open up J my browser and I have to "copy" and "paste". Over the long hall this J is going to be extremely annoying. What do I do? What happens when you double-click? If the file type is associated with your browser in Windows, it should work. BTW, what browser is that? J Lastly, these problems all started because I was having difficulty getting J mail from my Yahoo! account. Everything was working fine, but J yesterday for some unknown reason, theBat would not download them to J my desktop. I have asked Yahoo! for help but have not received a J reply. I asked my ISP if they started blocking external mail J accounts but they said No. What gives? I am truly having a major, J problem day and need to fix this somehow. Haven't heard anything, but my free webmail providers (gmx and kimo) also are unreachable sometimes for a day or two. No reason to panic and reinstall software. It's the price you pay for "free" services. J By the way, I am not all that clear on what happens after I send J this. Does it go to the main discussion group and someone answers J if and when they have seen this; or does it go straight to someone's J desktop and they will respond as soon as possible. I guess you can J tell this is my first time here and I'm sorry if I am not following J protocol, but I will learn as I go along. This list is a user discussion list. Many TB users lurk around here and help each others. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. -I'm really enjoying not talking to you, so let's not talk again real soon, okay? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders
Hello Jan, Are they still on the harddsik? If not, they are probably gone. It is always better to make regular updates, and especially when you reinstall the software. The last two days or so we had a thread about backing up the TB!. There were 2 or 3 very good ways to do so. I strongly recommend that you take a look at the archives (Archives: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com), subject was at least "A backing-up story". What happens when you double-click? If the file type is associated with your browser in Windows, it should work. BTW, what browser is that? Make sure that your browser is set as the default browser. This problem seems to come up if one has installed several browsers whereas none really is the default browser if it is not clearly set to be so. Haven't heard anything, but my free webmail providers (gmx and kimo) also are unreachable sometimes for a day or two. No reason to panic and reinstall software. It's the price you pay for "free" services. Ack. Greetings, Alexander -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Browser Problems
Hello Thomas, Thanks for responding. I'm using Netscape 4.75. I do double click but nothing happens. Email hyperlinks open up theBat to send messages, but nothing happens when I need to go online. Thomas, when you asked "what file type is associated with my browser in Windows", I'm not clear on what you mean. Do you mean theBat file types? Or some other file type? -- Best regards, Jan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 01:48:19 -0800, Jan contributed this to our collective wisdom: J Earlier I sent a message asking for help but had not read the full J rules of posting here. I shouted in the Subject Line and now I J understand I ought to have written *help*. Please accept my J appologies. Now that I know better, I will repost in the proper J form. That's OK Jan. Welcome to the list. :-) J Today I had to reinstall theBat and by accident when the pop-up J window asked if I wanted to delete my mail folders, I must have J said yes. Sadly, I have not backed up any of these and now they are J gone. Is there any way to get them back? Ouch!! The only thing that could possibly save you is an application with an undelete feature (anyone have any of these utilities to suggest?). It will search your disk for deleted stuff and, just maybe, your deleted folders have not yet been overwritten by other stuff. J Also, when I click on the hyperlink in messages, theBat does not J engage my browser. This is why I reinstalled, thinking that J something wasn't configured properly. Now theBat will not open up J my browser and I have to "copy" and "paste". Over the long hall J this is going to be extremely annoying. What do I do? Are you clicking or double clicking. With TB! you have to double click on the links. If you're double clicking and things are still not working, go into the Windows control panel and open the internet options. Go to the 'programs' tab and check if 'The Bat!' is selected under the 'e-mail' option. If not, select it and apply the change. That should do it. J Lastly, these problems all started because I was having difficulty J getting mail from my Yahoo! account. Everything was working fine, J but yesterday for some unknown reason, theBat would not download J them to my desktop. I have asked Yahoo! for help but have not J received a reply. I asked my ISP if they started blocking external J mail accounts but they said No. What gives? I am truly having a J major, problem day and need to fix this somehow. This problem could easily have nothing to do with your setup. These free services tend to be problematic at times. J By the way, I am not all that clear on what happens after I send J this. Does it go to the main discussion group and someone answers J if and when they have seen this; Each member is sent a copy of the message. If they read it and wish to reply, they post their response which is again distributed to all members. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin|List Moderator (PGP Key ID: 0x2B0717E2)|(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) The Bat! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) ** Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS ** -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (build 03) Comment: Signed for sender and message verification. iQA/AwUBOpjghFfJ62ArBxfiEQJ4CgCg7JOINFPKzpLb9+v3TI9qSG4wKDMAn35R EA4Z3/rxaMtZ3u/qbrRqMz1Z =Vf4x -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Browser Problems
Hallo Jan, On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 02:33:15 -0800 GMT (25/02/2001, 18:33 +0800 GMT), Jan wrote: J I'm using Netscape 4.75. I do double click but nothing happens. J Email hyperlinks open up theBat to send messages, but nothing happens J when I need to go online. Go to the FAQ file: www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html and read about Netscape and a program called nsproto. If you have further questions, or if you get it working, let us kow. J Thomas, when you asked "what file type is associated with my browser J in Windows", I'm not clear on what you mean. Do you mean theBat file J types? Or some other file type? No, I mean files type, as in ".html", ".shtml" and so on. Do you have some background in computing or operating systems? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. -I don't have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, No problem. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (02/24/2001 22:42) Special Issue (#2001-859)
Hello everybody having troubles using GMX, When I use GMX's SMTP server, I just set TB to POP before SMTP. What you should do nowadays is under Properties - Transport - SMTP-Server - Authentication, check "Perform SMTP Authentication" and leave it to "Use settings of Mail retrieval". You don't need to check "POP before SMTP". Then under your Pop-server you should have your user-number rather than your GMX-Email-address and of course your password. You do not need to change anything at the GMX web-interface. And most important: Be aware that your Email-address under Properties - General _MUST_ be your GMX-Address!! If not, you will never be able to use the GMX-SMTP-server. Also, make sure that any address set individually for a folder must also be your GMX-address. This is just one reason why *I* don't use the GMX-SMTP-server - I have multiple personalities ;-) Greetings, Alexander -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders
Hello there, If you're double clicking and things are still not working, go into the Windows control panel and open the internet options. Go to the 'programs' tab and check if 'The Bat!' is selected under the 'e-mail' option. If not, select it and apply the change. That should do it. Are you sure? I would say: setting a mail-client there tells IE/Netscape which program is to be used when clicking on a link in the form of mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on a web-site. If there is no reaction when clicking on a link inside the _mail-client_ then there is a problem with the setting of the default _browser_. AFAIU. Greetings, Alexander -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dierk, On 25 February 2001 at 09:19:24 +0100 (which was 08:19 where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote and made these points: DH Adding in a side note: I really like the feature and will use it DH some day, when it runs smoothly and telephone and Internet rates DH are better in Germany (last so called flat rate has just been DH cancelled). What have telephone and internet rates got to do with the ticker? It's not an "on-line" facility you know. It's just a virtual folder which is filled with pointers to all new mail. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49e S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOpjoNjnkJKuSnc2gEQKF/QCfbGcatelxxiB2LmJn7WwCRm/pO9kAn3Bw toNpImHVb2MM5G9Ypfd67fDJ =J2AX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Lurking learning.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TB! Users Moderators, In a recent thread, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] made the following comment: "This list is a user discussion list. Many TB users lurk around here and help each others. :-) " This statement made me feel somewhat guilty insofar as I'm always lurking, but contributing nothing. What Thomas said is especially true in my case. I have received enormous help off list from another list member. Thanks Brian C. My sole purpose for this post is just to thank the moderators and many list members who have provided me with so much usable information, as to make many of my questions unnecessary to post. I look forward to the day that I am competent enough using TheBat! to contribute and possibly help another list member. I have much to learn. Thanks to all, Ron. - -- PGP-Key: http://www.fusionwerks.com/pgp.php?user=rjulian PGP-Key ID: 0x60FBA485 - -- Using TheBat! 1.49 on Windows 98 4 10, Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.1 Comment: Encryption is my rightPGP is my choice. iQA/AwUBOpjrvZHUc2Bg+6SFEQIJjQCgqAbI090wH4lqDOK5r6gUjvYHHp0AnREM 1aFxRrzuBgSoXW0Lnuw/uQT5 =zRuu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (02/24/2001 22:42) Special Issue (#2001-859)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dierk Haasis ! On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:03:26 +0100 GMT your local time, which was 25.02.2001, 09:03 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: [...] You don't have to change anything through their web interface. When GMX implemented SMTP authentication I checked this in TB! and never did anything on the web. And it worked. Then someone posted that you have to change the option at GMX, well, I did, and it works still. FYI Confirmed: I never had any problems with the gmx-account. I did exactly as Dierk did. [...] - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.49 PGP-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - Erwerbsregel #38 Gratis-Werbung ist billig. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes! iQA/AwUBOpjYkky/sHrVbGGHEQJ2RwCfc7FhdVIhY6b6ioXYwwOZm9sUyVIAoLrR h1XwwLx7AlLYZPEWEMsBY0aH =mZ/s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck! On Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 12:10:46 PM you wrote: What have telephone and internet rates got to do with the ticker? It's not an "on-line" facility you know. It's just a virtual folder which is filled with pointers to all new mail. That's they way you use it. I have used it to not think of looking up "What's new". What I mean is: Being connected always I can work - yes, I do that - and when new messages come (let's assume every half hour TB! checks for them) I just see them, can decide if I am interested, look at them or go on working. I am not much interested in the virtual folder. If I want to have all my new mail in one folder I would just not filter them automatically and leave the "Inbox" open (19 inch monitor). After having read I can then filter manually. As Thomas pointed out some days ago in another context: Everybody has his own preferences and usage. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.49 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization. (Georges Clemenceau) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOpjfF/To1oA8g8dLEQJLaACeKGSadawXUwE1mo1csjU2GDxCgo8AoLQJ 5d3Nc+MpzOGAbUCGsOd3DWgl =0wwn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Browser Problems
Hello Thomas and Alexander, Just to let you fellows know, I uninstalled Netscape, then reinstalled, afterwhich TB became my default email program again and everything seems like it's back to normal. Links are working! Now, if I could just recover those mail folders everything would be "peachy keen"! Thanks for your help, input and feedback. I have a feeling I'm going to be coming here alot so I can make my TB cook with gas. Thanks again! -- Best regards, Jan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Lurking learning.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On February 25, 2001, at 3:27:26 AM, Ronald J Clark Wrote: RJC I look forward to the day that I am competent enough using TheBat! to RJC contribute and possibly help another list member. I have much to RJC learn. There are many "New User" type questions posted on TBUDL that you may want to try answering. The best way to learn, is to try and teach someone, so by all means feel free to jump in, and don't be afraid of making a mistake. As mentioned, it's the best way to learn. ;o) Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.49c | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 6.5.8ckt | Key ID: 0xC50284747BA3FDCE ] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 03 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOpj5VcUChHR7o/3OEQIwUwCguH5e3/JFpS55cy/hiE6JSHFSU9oAoJTZ 5KknDFrObM+Kykw5QpgbhqVl =ktUe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On February 25, 2001, at 1:48:19 AM, Jan Wrote: J Lastly, these problems all started because I was having difficulty J getting mail from my Yahoo! account. Everything was working fine, but J yesterday for some unknown reason, theBat would not download them to my J desktop. I have asked Yahoo! for help but have not received a reply. I J asked my ISP if they started blocking external mail accounts but they J said No. What gives? I am truly having a major, problem day and need to J fix this somehow. Although this isn't a fix for your Yahoo problem, but may I suggest setting up an account with OperaMail... www.operamail.com who offer free POP3 access. Just subscribe to a Mailing List you are already subscribed to via your Yahoo address, and notice the difference in speed between the two Servers. That is how I started out when I was having a problem with my @Home Servers. As of this moment, I have subscribed to *all* my Mailing Lists under OperaMail, and am so happy I did. The Account is super easy to set up via the Web Page, and when setting up the Account here in TB!, simply use operamail.com for both your SMTP and POP3 Server names. That is all there is to it, and you won't be sorry. It may take a little effort to get everything moved over, but the effort will be rewarded. Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.49c | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 6.5.8ckt | Key ID: 0xC50284747BA3FDCE ] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 03 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOpj7pMUChHR7o/3OEQKezgCfYkXUUlvekDZsG2tpyz1UZ/9A2HcAnjZI AyLTsgJ/zdZ+tz87oa9ChWgn =u0T0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dierk, On 25 February 2001 at 12:31:36 +0100 (which was 11:31 where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote and made these points: ... It's just a virtual folder which is filled with pointers to all new mail. DH That's they way you use it. WADR that's coincidental. What I wrote above is an accurate technical summary of what the ticker is and does, however you or I may wish to make use of that functionality. DH I am not much interested in the virtual folder. If I want to have DH all my new mail in one folder I would just not filter them DH automatically and leave the "Inbox" open (19 inch monitor). After DH having read I can then filter manually. True. It's a matter of quantity. I get around 300-500 messages daily. I would spend almost as long sorting them as reading them if they were all just dumped in my inbox. DH As Thomas pointed out some days ago in another context: Everybody DH has his own preferences and usage. Quite right. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49e S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOpj7uDnkJKuSnc2gEQIN9gCeOFsB5A6wK7FV0mKLAZuB7FM+ZRoAnieA YB2sfy7iiBgCMPwyyfoVZIp5 =LyIY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re[2]: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso
Hello John, On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:26:39 +1100, you wrote: Not sure if you are aware - there is finally a new version of Agent in the wings, as posted on the Agent ng by Forte. No announcement yet as to when available. Thank for very much for your reply, John - but did you read to the bottom of the post you are replying to ;-) -- Best regards, Jannik Lindquist The Bat! 1.49 Windows 98 4 10 A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:54:17 +0100, Alexander contributed this to our collective wisdom: --snip-- AL Are you sure? I would say: setting a mail-client there tells AL IE/Netscape which program is to be used when clicking on a link in AL the form of mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on a web-site. If there is no AL reaction when clicking on a link inside the _mail-client_ then AL there is a problem with the setting of the default _browser_. AL AFAIU. Hmmm. I think you're right on this and the fact that Jan fixed things by reinstalling Netscape confirms this. Thanks for clarifying. My bad! - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin|List Moderator (PGP Key ID: 0x2B0717E2)|(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) The Bat! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) ** Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS ** -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (build 03) Comment: Signed for sender and message verification. iQA/AwUBOpj7uFfJ62ArBxfiEQITCgCcDV0RS37FMPgtRkIrZ+k2f1ZkUKEAni6d kACDItywUuuB1KVDJiTfHBvN =4Ec4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Lurking learning.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 04:23:51 -0800, Nick wrote these comments: NA There are many "New User" type questions posted on TBUDL that you NA may want to try answering. The best way to learn, is to try and NA teach someone, so by all means feel free to jump in, and don't be NA afraid of making a mistake. As mentioned, it's the best way to NA learn. ;o) Indeed. Well said. ;=) - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin|List Moderator (PGP Key ID: 0x2B0717E2)|(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) The Bat! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) ** Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS ** -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (build 03) Comment: Signed for sender and message verification. iQA/AwUBOpj9slfJ62ArBxfiEQILZACgxMJiGRPthqIK8QyquKcMEYLumhcAoIEW oFpS5+yGmLMwRYl9EYyw6Wky =nVGp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Digest subject lines
All: Can we ask the readers of the digest to please be careful about responding to digest articles without changing the subject line? You know, subjects like: Re: Digest (02/24/2001 22:42) Special Issue (#2001-859) just don't tell me much. Don't know about the rest of you. ^_- -- Best, Yuki ^_^ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:34:00 +, Marck thoughtfully wrote the following: --snip-- DH I am not much interested in the virtual folder. If I want to have DH all my new mail in one folder I would just not filter them DH automatically and leave the "Inbox" open (19 inch monitor). After DH having read I can then filter manually. MDP True. It's a matter of quantity. I get around 300-500 messages MDP daily. I would spend almost as long sorting them as reading them MDP if they were all just dumped in my inbox. The ticker also allows you to view only particular new messages as well. If all messages are in the inbox, you'd have to wade through new messages you aren't interested in. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin|List Moderator (PGP Key ID: 0x2B0717E2)|(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) The Bat! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) ** Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS ** -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (build 03) Comment: Signed for sender and message verification. iQA/AwUBOpkC+VfJ62ArBxfiEQInyQCgjtLFZtLuKReDxd0Gg/tCgqAVECsAoKiH b4IlW2Htjdw+YkCyhGVjS4er =gzQf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Organising e-mails
Hello All, I am about to organise all my e-mails into folders.I know the way we organise our messages is quite personal.However more experienced users probably have some advise, notes of precautions or tips tricks about that. Thank you for sugestions -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso
Hello Sunday, February 25, 2001, 11:34:31 PM, someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank for very much for your reply, John - but did you read to the bottom of the post you are replying to ;-) Sorry, too lazy to read that far g -- Regards John Phillips Sydney, Australia Hamster 1.3.22.1 Bat! 1.49 Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram It's deja vu all over again. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Mail Ticker issue (was Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck! On Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 1:34:00 PM you wrote: WADR that's coincidental. What I wrote above is an accurate technical summary of what the ticker is and does, however you or I may wish to make use of that functionality. That I did not question. :-) I just replied to your query about telephone rates. And I think my way of using (or actually not using) the MT answered that. True. It's a matter of quantity. I get around 300-500 messages daily. I would spend almost as long sorting them as reading them if they were all just dumped in my inbox. I don't get that much - some mailing lists less ;-) - but I see your point. that's why I filter and have other folders. Concurring with Allie, I don't have to see every message in the MT. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.49 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Where there's a will there's a won't. (Ambrose Bierce) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOpj7sfTo1oA8g8dLEQKHLACfQhpDvHFW+Ms+p/TyB/BA4094UuoAoNj5 lb2zSd3da103wXFfdeUoXt+c =ZFVM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John! On Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 2:29:44 PM you wrote: Sorry, too lazy to read that far g Well, Jannik answered to my post stating exactly the same - there is a new version in the works, but no one knows anything about it incl. Mark Sidell and Jeffrey Kaplan, and they should know! - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.49 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C I learn each day what I need to know to do tomorrow's work. (Arnold Toynbee) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOpj8OvTo1oA8g8dLEQIpGwCfVTfCLD0vO0sJOLJAPEYGKOAAwMQAnAhr SVeEZtAvpmhkTP+viL4ygVRF =jV/7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
Hallo Allie, On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:04:57 -0500 GMT (25/02/01, 21:04 +0800 GMT), A Curtis Martin wrote: ACM The ticker also allows you to view only particular new messages as ACM well. If all messages are in the inbox, you'd have to wade through new ACM messages you aren't interested in. Not quite. When there are, say, 25 new messages, it takes some time until a particular message comes around again. In fact, my main use for the ticket is that I can see while sitting in front of the TV whether new messages have come in - my PC is some 10 meters from the sofa, and my eyes are not good enough to see the bat flapping it's wings. Quite a waste of programming power, one would think, but hey, at least it's not disabled. ;-) I use the virtual folder occasionally, but only if there are only a few new messages. I don't like to read new mail across folders; I read all messages in one folder, then proceed to the next. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso
Hello Jannik, JL Just remember this: When comparing Becky! and TB you are not comparing JL two programs at the same state of their development. The current JL version of Becky! is 2.00.03 and the current version of TB is 1.49. A JL lot of the goodies in the current version of Becky! will be present in JL v. 2.0 of TB as well. :-0 So You think, that Becky! developement should be stopped, so The Bat! can release v2.0??? It's silly, I think, because the question is which mailer is the best _now_, not which is beeing developed more rapidly or longer. -- Regards, IronHandmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Lurking learning.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, at 06:27:26 [GMT -0500], Ronald J Clark wrote: RJC My sole purpose for this post is just to thank the moderators and RJC many list members who have provided me with so much usable RJC information, as to make many of my questions unnecessary to post. I RJC look forward to the day that I am competent enough using TheBat! to RJC contribute and possibly help another list member. I have much to RJC learn. I sounds like you've already mastered the first step necessary to enter the exciting world of online product support, you know how to look for the answers. As Nick and Allie pointed out, the next step is to jump in with "Oo! Oo! I know that one..." There are many here who will tweak your advice should that ever become necessary. As a note to other lurkers, you aren't causing any undo strain on the system by using answers to other peoples' questions, so go ahead and take all the answers you want. We'll make more. Mike Yetto - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=MAY:PGP_Key E-mailed using The Bat! v1.49 running on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOpkjuNkz/SR3Uv4yEQLclACgiGe8Lp+3P0/hRa2Xsq3gxYBaGSAAnAoI T2V/B5DNzJ6l8zjjH+qEe0mf =VNYj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:55:49 +0800, Thomas contributed this to our collective wisdom: ACM The ticker also allows you to view only particular new messages ACM as well. If all messages are in the inbox, you'd have to wade ACM through new messages you aren't interested in. T Not quite. When there are, say, 25 new messages, it takes some time T until a particular message comes around again. What I meant was that you can select which folders new messages to display. I have my ticker configured to display new messages that arrive in only some and not all folders. You can further restrict the messages displayed by using the message age criteria. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin|List Moderator (PGP Key ID: 0x2B0717E2)|(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) The Bat! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) ** Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS ** -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (build 03) Comment: Signed for sender and message verification. iQA/AwUBOpkjTlfJ62ArBxfiEQIOMwCeJjFxx6NR6JwTML3ti26NNuWp5OcAoOTX oY/5V+pDh7cHt5of7tEcnAoS =G2c6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
Hello Thomas, I use the virtual folder occasionally, I must say that I don't quite understand what this virtual folder is about. What does it look like and what is the connection with the MT? Could someone maybe explain that to me? TIA Greetings, Alexander -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
On Saturday, February 24, 2001, 8:39:33 AM, Keith wrote: One more question: I do have a backup from a couple of months ago. Can anyone tell me if there is a way I can restore my Inbox from there without losing messages from the other folders? Will it overwrite existing messages, overwrite the entire folders, create duplicates, or what? How did you do your backup--with TB's backup tool or not? TB's backup tool seems to facilitate only all-or-none restoration (I've never tried, so somebody please correct me if I'm wrong here). If you choose to restore mail folders, it would restore all mail folrders -- of course by overwriting existing ones. If you did it manually (with an archive utility, backup utility, or plain file copying), then you may just restore the Inbox directory. If you used TB's backup tool, then you may copy all your mail folders to another location with your file manager (when TB is closed), and copy all other folders except the Inbox back after the restoration. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.49e | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso
On Saturday, February 24, 2001, 2:33:46 PM, Jannik wrote: I use full-width preview pane in TB, something not available in Becky Have a look at version 2.00.03: View | Change Layout. In fact, for several versions already, you can have full-*screen* preview pane (and full-screen Tree-pane and full-screen List-pane): Ctrl + Alt + various arrows (depending on your pane-layout). I believe that has been available since Becky 2 was in betas. But it's not what I want. With TB's full-width preview pane, I still have the 3-pane layout intact, with the message list and account tree in view. With Becky, I'll lose the other two panes when I maximize the preview pane. When I'm reading through mailing list with many messages, I like TB's folder view best--with message list on top and message body at the bottom. The account tree is gone, so the message list can have the full width of the window to accommodate more information. It's not available in Becky. In News, only XNews offer similar arrangment. Agent and Gravity don't. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.49e | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
Hallo Alexander, On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:24:47 +0100 GMT (25/02/01, 23:24 +0800 GMT), Alexander Levenetz wrote: AL I must say that I don't quite understand what this virtual folder AL is about. What does it look like and what is the connection with the AL MT? Could someone maybe explain that to me? TIA Double-click on the MT. A View folder window opens, which contains all unread messages that are announced in the MT. This folder view is "virtual", as there is no single folder containing all these messages: they are across folders. HTH. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If I worked as much as others, I would do as little as they. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
Hallo Ming-Li, On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 07:14:15 -0800 GMT (25/02/01, 23:14 +0800 GMT), Ming-Li wrote: ML How did you do your backup--with TB's backup tool or not? TB's ML backup tool seems to facilitate only all-or-none restoration (I've ML never tried, so somebody please correct me if I'm wrong here). If ML you choose to restore mail folders, it would restore all mail ML folrders -- of course by overwriting existing ones. You could export your Inbox first. Then let it overwrite. Import the previously exported mails. Kill dupes. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Success always occurs in private, and failure in full view. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Flying bats, have some rest please.
Hello Marek, Saturday, February 24, 2001, 11:07:12 PM, you wrote: MM Hello all, MM Saturday, February 24, 2001, jlaikan wrote: In fact I was mistaken about the terms. I referred to those softwares that are supported by advertising and not to freewares. Therefore if the Bat! advertised for itself and is not a freeware, where would the money come from? Well first, from those who have purchased the Bat! and secondly from those who will purchase it on seeing the advert (the flying bat).Subtle marketing or small puzzle from Stefan? MM please stop posting these st..id messages or move them to another MM list. Without offense to you I don't see where my message has been st..id . What I said is that the logo's animation gives the impression of some advertising going on.Put 2 computers running the Bat! side by side (one with animation and the other without).Any visitor coming in will more probably notice the animated bat,look into the program get interested to it, try it and maybe buy it.There is nothing wrong with that since the animation is not imposed to us. Subtle advertising, since no one can really attack the animation, because bats DO fly! I myself only said Flying bats, have some rest please. Anyway this is a personal opinion only. MM This is not mailing list for posting off topic messages. If the rules of this list strictly allow discussing only the support aspects of the Bat!, I will abide by them. -- Best regards, jlaikanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re[2]: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:15:10 +0100, you wrote: So You think, that Becky! developement should be stopped I look forward to learn where I have said such nonsense :-) -- Best regards, Jannik Lindquist The Bat! 1.49 Windows 98 4 10 A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flying bats, have some rest please.
Hi jlaikan, On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, at 20:26:44 +0400 you wrote: What I said is that the logo's animation gives the impression of some advertising going on.Put 2 computers running the Bat! side by side (one with animation and the other without). Any visitor coming in will more probably notice the animated bat, look into the program get interested to it, try it and maybe buy it. So you say that the flapping wings of the bat will attract attention? You see, that's exactly what they are made for. The flapping wings are supposed to draw the user's attention to the fact that there are new messages. If you don't like this design, you can turn it off, it's just that simple. And all the others can use it as new mail notification. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.49e on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: New Browser window (shift double-click)
Hello Dave,
Okay, I've figured out how to add the OpenNew action on Netscape running
under Win95b. Unfortunately it doesn't help at all with the
shift-double-click idiom (within TB) failing to open a new NS window. Here
are the steps I took to get there.
1. Open an explorer window, go to viewoptionsfiletypes
2. Find in the list of registered file types, find "Netscape Hypertext
Document" and select it
3. Click the "Edit" button
4. Click the "New..." button
5. Name the action "OpenNew"
6. Specify the NS exe on your system for "application used to perform
action:"
7. tick "use DDE"
8. DDE message should say "[open("%1", 0x0)]" without the outermost quotes
9. Application should say "NSShell" without the quotes.
10. Topic should say "WWW_OpenURL" without the quotes.
11. done
Having done this, I now have an "OpenNew" option on the context menu
(right-click menu) for html documents in windows exploerer, and it works
like you'd expect, but my original problem still exists inside TB.
Shift-double-click on a hypertext url does not open a new browser window.
I guess I'd like to ask if there are any NS users out there for whom the
shift-double-click idiom DOES work? Will you step forward to help figure out
what the problem is? Thanks.
-Dave
Friday, February 23, 2001, 2:00:25 PM, you wrote:
DB Maybe others, who are using NS under various versions of windows, can fill
DB in the gaps. I'd like to know how this can be applied to Win95b.
DB -Dave
DB Friday, February 23, 2001, 1:23:40 PM, you wrote:
ML On Friday, February 23, 2001, 10:00:22 AM, SyP wrote:
Ming-Li If the default action is "open", change it to "opennew"
Ming-Li (click on it and click the "set default" button). See if
Ming-Li that helps.
Ah-ha!
I only have Open, Print and PrintTo actions! Would you please tell how
the OpenNew action looks like in your system?
ML Sure, but I'm afraid it won't be of much use to you. I'm using
ML IE5.5, and no Netscape is installed (still waiting for Mozilla 1.0).
ML The OpenNew action information is obviously put in by IE
ML installation, and is IE specific. In case it's of any use, here it
ML is:
ML Application used to perform action:
ML "F:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"
ML Use DDE - checked
ML DDE message:
ML [ViewFolder("%l","%l",%S)] - including the square brackets
ML Application:
ML Folders
ML DDE Application not running:
ML (empty)
ML Topic:
ML AppProperties
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Re[4]: New Browser window (shift double-click)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dave, You wrote on 2/25/2001, 7:37 PM: Dave shift-double-click idiom (within TB) failing to open a new NS Dave window. Here are the steps I took to get there. Okay, just for the record, I followed the steps you outlined on my Win2K system, with the same results. (Actually, I couldn't do _exactly_ what you described, because of the minor differences of our platform, but it doesn't matter much) - -- Cheers, SyP Would-be National Mottos: Poland: "We probably would have had a happier history if we were between Canada and Mexico, not Germany and Russia." -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOplJdtkgnrcJiuwTEQL5kwCffwu/Fbq+nx+ufX8hppQrsKqpd6oAn3GA RWzQS2oHARQQhy1RS2MyfLZI =KRKQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
Hello Thomas, Double-click on the MT. Nothing happens. Does this maybe have to do that there is no new message in my inbox but only in other folders? Message age: nothing set. A View folder window opens, which contains all unread messages that are announced in the MT. Sounds like not every new message is announced in the MT?? I have the feeling that something is not working correctly here on my system :-) Greetings, Alexander -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New Browser window (shift double-click)
On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 10:37:35 AM, Dave wrote: Okay, I've figured out how to add the OpenNew action on Netscape running under Win95b. Unfortunately it doesn't help at all with the shift-double-click idiom (within TB) failing to open a new NS window. Here are the steps I took to get there. Sorry for giving you wrong information the last time. It turns out that the "HTML Document" type controls only a file with .htm or .html extension. It has nothing to do with clicking on a URL in TB (or any applications). I thought it's controlled by the "URL: HyperText Transfer Protocol" type, but I found, on my system, only one action is available for that type, which is "Open". No "OpenNew" is available. Yet shift-double-click works fine here. So now it's beyond me. Sorry, folks. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.49e | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.
Hello Lars, Sunday, February 25, 2001, 1:27:50 PM, you wrote: LG So you say that the flapping wings of the bat will attract LG attention? You see, that's exactly what they are made for. The LG flapping wings are supposed to draw the user's attention to the LG fact that there are new messages Actually the icon animation draws attention to the fact that there are UNREAD messages, which is not quite the same thing, especially if, like me, you tend to not read all messages as soon as they come in. The icon animation would be a lot more useful if it did actually work in the way you suggest. One possibility would be for the icon to animate only if there are new messages since the last time TB had focus. Perhaps the developers will take notice Best regards, Dave -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: New Browser window (shift double-click)
Hello Ming-Li, No apology necessary. I appreciate your trying to help. Because of your contribution we've ruled out one possible source of the problem, and that's a useful thing. Best regards, Dave Sunday, February 25, 2001, 2:21:42 PM, you wrote: ML On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 10:37:35 AM, Dave wrote: Okay, I've figured out how to add the OpenNew action on Netscape running under Win95b. Unfortunately it doesn't help at all with the shift-double-click idiom (within TB) failing to open a new NS window. Here are the steps I took to get there. ML Sorry for giving you wrong information the last time. It turns out ML that the "HTML Document" type controls only a file with .htm or ML .html extension. It has nothing to do with clicking on a URL in TB ML (or any applications). I thought it's controlled by the "URL: ML HyperText Transfer Protocol" type, but I found, on my system, only ML one action is available for that type, which is "Open". No "OpenNew" ML is available. Yet shift-double-click works fine here. So now it's ML beyond me. Sorry, folks. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.
Hello Ming-Li Lars Sunday, February 25, 2001, 9:36:35 PM, Ming-Li wrote: (it flaps only when there's new ML mail), a clever design IMO. That's something I just learned from you. Thanks for the info. -- Best regards, jlaikanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flying bats, have some rest please.
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:37:15 -0500 Dave Braze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The icon animation would be a lot more useful if it did actually work in the way you suggest. One possibility would be for the icon to animate only if there are new messages since the last time TB had focus. Perhaps the developers will take notice I recently commented on this on TBOT, the way Becky does this is to animate the tray icon until the program has been maximised, much more useful IMHO -- Mark Aston -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Mail Ticker (was Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alexander! On Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 8:17:35 PM you wrote: I have the feeling that something is not working correctly here on my system :-) Thought I had changed the subject sometime today. OK, here we go again. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.49 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Ein Berater ist jemand, der 49 Liebespositionen kennt, aber kein einziges Mdchen. (Kasimir M. Magyar) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOplbN/To1oA8g8dLEQL0swCg12mHLRcZ0Ljyn03q+Gf8BScBR6gAn3KS 0yKhPY/u5THqAvnXXe0ag8ps =0S2C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flying bats, have some rest please.
Hi Dave, On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, at 14:37:15 -0500 you wrote: LG the fact that there are new messages Actually the icon animation draws attention to the fact that there are UNREAD messages, which is not quite the same thing Well, usually new messages are unread (unless any filter changed that) :-) but you are right, it's a difference. The icon animation would be a lot more useful if it did actually work in the way you suggest. One possibility would be for the icon to animate only if there are new messages since the last time TB had focus. Perhaps the developers will take notice It's one of those features I like as it is but others surely have different opinions. If the icon behaved the way you suggest it, I could never be sure if there are no unread messages or if the bat just accidentally had the focus some time ago. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.49e on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
wrapping
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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
Hi Alexander, On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:17:35 +0100GMT (26/02/2001, 03:17 +0800GMT), Alexander Levenetz wrote: Double-click on the MT. AL Nothing happens. Does this maybe have to do that there is no new AL message in my inbox but only in other folders? Message age: nothing AL set. Oh? If there are any messages in the MT, these are new, and these should be listed in the virutal folder that opens. Of course, I have set my MT to "show automtically", so if there are not new messages, mine won't show. If you have set your to "show always" (see Option / Mail Ticker in the main menu), then it will also show with "0 messages new", and no virtual folder will open. (It would be empty anyway.) Therefore, try double-clicking on the MT when there are new messages. A View folder window opens, which contains all unread messages that are announced in the MT. AL Sounds like not every new message is announced in the MT?? Correct. In the folder options, you can choose not to show new messages in the mail ticker. Most people will use the mail ticker for personal messages (considered urgent), but disable it for folders into which they receive newsletters or mailing list traffic. AL I have the feeling that something is not working correctly here on my AL system :-) I think we'll have to check your settings a bit further. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, On 26 February 2001 at 11:56:19 +0800 (which was 03:56 where I live) Thomas wrote and made these points: Double-click on the MT. AL Nothing happens. Does this maybe have to do that there is no new AL message in my inbox but only in other folders? Message age: nothing AL set. T Oh? If there are any messages in the MT, these are new, and these T should be listed in the virutal folder that opens. Of course, I have T set my MT to "show automtically", so if there are not new messages, T mine won't show. I'd like to add the description of a "quirk" or two I've observed with the MT (and it annoys me no end). You get no reaction when double clicking on the "n new messages" section of the ticker. You get no response from the system-wide hot key to open the MT VF when the ticker is short, the "n new messages" section is visible, the first message details aren't entirely on-screen. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49e S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOpnYtjnkJKuSnc2gEQLdKQCeMidoQJE+NJbBkLNuGHnH9ii3nUYAn0lx VfgBWm4f8dMPkcVptkXwEbRu =ay/A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.
Hello Ming-Li, Sunday, February 25, 2001, 9:36:35 PM, you wrote: ML On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 8:26:44 AM, jlaikan wrote: Without offense to you I don't see where my message has been st..id . What I said is that the logo's animation gives the impression of some advertising going on. ML I don't think your message was stupid If someone can appreciate and chooses a program like the Bat!,we should think twice before qualifying him/her or his/her questions as stupid. -- Best regards, jlaikanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.
Hello Ming-Li, Sunday, February 25, 2001, 9:36:35 PM, you wrote: ML On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 8:26:44 AM, jlaikan wrote: Without offense to you I don't see where my message has been st..id . What I said is that the logo's animation gives the impression of some advertising going on. ML I don't think your message was stupid Personally,I would think twice before qualifying someone or his/her messages as stupid if he/she can appreciate and has chosen a great program like the Bat!. -- Best regards, jlaikanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
