Re:Creating contact for mass mailing
Hello Dierk, On 27 March 2001, Dierk Haasis wrote and made these points on the subject of "Creating contact for mass mailing": Do I have to create a contact for each of the 400 users of the list or is there a shortcut? DH I am not quite sure I understand you: Don't you already have to DH have everyone's address in you AB? No, I don't have the addresses in my AB because I don't use TB! as my Mailing List Server. Now that I want to send a private mail to each of my subscribers I find it really tedious to create an address book entry for each of the 400 of them. If there was a shortcut, I would be keen to learn. -- Best regards, Assad Using The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Creating contact for mass mailing
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, March 27, 2001, Assad Toorab wrote to Dierk Haasis on TBUDL about Creating contact for mass mailing: AT I find it really tedious to create an address book entry for each AT of the 400 of them. If there was a shortcut, I would be keen to AT learn. You can use manual filter. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.51 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:Creating contact for mass mailing
Hello OK3, On 27 March 2001, OK3 wrote and made these points on the subject of "Creating contact for mass mailing": AT I find it really tedious to create an address book entry for each AT of the 400 of them. If there was a shortcut, I would be keen to AT learn. O You can use manual filter. Could you elaborate please? I have the list of my subscribers in a text file format. Thank you. -- Best regards, Assad Using The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Multiple email addresses for one account
Hi people, I wonder if it is possible to set up more than one email address for one account? Background: I am getting a new email address and for the time of having two addys at the same time I would like to keep them under one account, if possible. If not, does anyone please have any suggestions as of how to keep all my mail (from both addys) under one account? Thanks in advance Roman -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Multiple email addresses for one account
Hello Roman, You wrote: I wonder if it is possible to set up more than one email address for one account? Either you could create another account for the other email address, copy account.srx over from the old account and make sure that the filters are pointing to the same folders as before... Too much hassle I think for a short period. Or, download the X-Ray mail-filtering etc. software from www.xrayapp.com, and set up the two POP3 accounts in it. Then set thr mail server to 127.0.0.1 in TB, and change the actual address with a click from the system tray. Of course it would be the easiest if you could simply autoforward all mail to your new address... Hope that helps, SyP -- -- Mi az Ön MailBox címe? - http://mailbox.hu -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Creating contact for mass mailing
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, March 27, 2001, Assad Toorab wrote to OK3 on TBUDL about Creating contact for mass mailing: O You can use manual filter. AT Could you elaborate please? I have the list of my subscribers in AT a text file format. Thank you. No, I was wrong, you can't use filters in this case. You can try to import these addresses into addressbook. Some preparation of data may be required. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.51 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Creating contact for mass mailing
Hello Assad, On Saturday, March 24, 2001 17:18:08 [ +0400 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Creating contact for mass mailing': Assad I have a list of subscribers to my mailing list who I want to send a Assad private mail using TB! mass mailing feature. Assad Do I have to create a contact for each of the 400 users of the list or Assad is there a shortcut? Since your mailing list is a text file, how about putting your names into a comma delimited data format importing the names into a TB! AB? I don't know why this shouldn't work but others (more experienced) will have to provide specific help assuming the concept is doable. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.51 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:Creating contact for mass mailing
Hello Jan, On 27 March 2001, Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points on the subject of "Creating contact for mass mailing": JR Since your mailing list is a text file, how about putting your JR names into a comma delimited data format importing the names JR into a TB! AB? That did the trick! Thanks a lot. -- Best regards, Assad Using The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hello TBUDL, does anyone know when AVG Anti Virus mail check functionality will support The Bat? AVG uses MAPI, but The Bat's MAPI implementation doesn't work with AVG. Eudora's and OE's do. I remember a posting here letting me know that AVG is working on this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. TIA. -- Best Regards, Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://christian.dysthe.tripod.com ICQ: 3945810 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB! v1.51 - system resources
Hello TBUDListers. I have some issues w system resources so I've started checking on program usage. It appears to me that *my* TB! is using about 12% of system resources. Does this sound right? As I write this I have 2038 msgs in my folders, all folders get compressed most are emptied on a scheduled basis, i.e. 1-2-3-4 days, etc. It appears that I have about 57 subject folders in addition to the default folders. Comments/suggestions please. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.51 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Christian, On 27 March 2001 at 10:23:29 -0600 (which was 17:23 where I live) Christian Dysthe wrote to TBUDL and made these points: CD does anyone know when AVG Anti Virus mail check functionality will CD support The Bat? AVG uses MAPI, but The Bat's MAPI implementation CD doesn't work with AVG. Eudora's and OE's do. CD I remember a posting here letting me know that AVG is working on CD this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. The guys at AVG use TB in-house. I'm sure they'd be keen on it but they may have been waiting for TB2 so that they could do it as a plug-in. As we all know, TB2 has been "somewhat delayed" which may have thrown a minor spanner in the works. It may be worth asking AVG. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOsDEJTnkJKuSnc2gEQIUngCePRnEXlVJtVwq1ucVxCinNLYpxn0AoKuG TOQ3Aa2ZN0OlL032xztrXgML =JR3d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hello all, Tuesday, March 27, 2001, Christian Dysthe wrote: does anyone know when AVG Anti Virus mail check functionality will support The Bat? AVG uses MAPI, but The Bat's MAPI implementation doesn't work with AVG. Eudora's and OE's do. I remember a posting here letting me know that AVG is working on this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. First of all, Grisoft (developer of AVG) works on POP3 proxy, which will check mails going through it. As I know, MAPI implmentation in TB is not possible to use with AVG. Stefan told me, he will implement easy API interface for AV products and as I asked AVG developers, if will be this implemented, they will do plugin for TB. But I don't know, when will be this implemented. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - system resources
Hallo Jan, On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:36:53 -0500 GMT (28/03/2001, 00:36 +0800 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR I have some issues w system resources so I've started checking on JR program usage. It appears to me that *my* TB! is using about 12% of JR system resources. Does this sound right? That certainly depends on how much your resources are. Are you talking about RAM? How much do you have? JR Comments/suggestions please. I still have the feeling that TB leaks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I bought a portable cable tv. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - system resources
Hi/Bonjour Jan, Does this sound right? Not sure since I have many things running at once. I learned of a program MemTurbo last week and it seems to help me tremendously. Use Copernic (or another search engine) and see if it'll help you as it does me. Aaron mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BOSS spelled backwards is Double S-O-B. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - system resources
Hi, On Tuesday, March 27, 2001, 6:36:53 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: I have some issues w system resources so I've started checking on program usage. It appears to me that *my* TB! is using about 12% of system resources. Does this sound right? Well, for me it's the GDI resources that drive me nuts. By now I have a crash about every other day. And then my screen goes completely wild and I have a hard time getting to the Task Manager. I wish there was some error warning about low GDI resources. But the Bat suddenly runs out of handles and pulls my whole system with it. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hey Marck, Tuesday, March 27, 2001, 11:47:33 AM, you wrote: MDP The guys at AVG use TB in-house. I'm sure they'd be keen on it but MDP they may have been waiting for TB2 so that they could do it as a MDP plug-in. As we all know, TB2 has been "somewhat delayed" which may MDP have thrown a minor spanner in the works. Where can I find information on AVG? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.51 Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) Why are you wasting time reading taglines? Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.51 - system resources
Hello Thomas, On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 01:47:32 [ +0800 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! v1.51 - system resources': Thomas On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:36:53 -0500 GMT (28/03/2001, 00:36 +0800 GMT), Thomas Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR [...] It appears to me that *my* TB! is using about 12% of JR system resources. Does this sound right? Thomas That certainly depends on how much your resources are. Are you talking Thomas about RAM? How much do you have? 384 -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.51 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.51 - system resources
Hello Aaron, Thanks for replying to my post. On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 13:24:50 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! v1.51 - system resources': Aaron Hi/Bonjour Jan, Does this sound right? Aaron Not sure since I have many things running at once. I learned of a Aaron program MemTurbo last week and it seems to help me tremendously. Use Aaron Copernic (or another search engine) and see if it'll help you as it Aaron does me. Sorry, helps you do what? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.51 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Displaying ISO-8859-3 (Latin-3)
On Monday, March 26, 2001 at 21:58:13 -0600 Clif Oliver wrote: Is there a way to display messages received that use ISO-8859-3 (Latin-3)? Currently, I'm afraid not. You may try to create a pair of translation table for it (Options | XLAT Tables), assuming you have the appropriate font for it. Or you may ask RIT for it. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - system resources
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 01:47:32 +0800 Thomas wrote: That certainly depends on how much your resources are. Are you talking about RAM? How much do you have? I'm pretty certain he's talking about the GDI and User resources--the two system heaps. I still have the feeling that TB leaks. Could you elaborate? -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - system resources
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 13:24:50 -0500 Aaron wrote: Not sure since I have many things running at once. I learned of a program MemTurbo last week and it seems to help me tremendously. I'm afraid none of those memory cleanup tools is able to reclaim system resources for you. That's why you still have to reboot Win95/98/Me machines pretty often, even if you've plenty of RAMS. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 10:23:29 -0600 Christian Dysthe wrote: does anyone know when AVG Anti Virus mail check functionality will support The Bat? AVG uses MAPI, but The Bat's MAPI implementation doesn't work with AVG. Eudora's and OE's do. So you want AVG to check outgoing mail for you, right? May I ask why? TB creates and sends text-only messages, which are inherently virus-free. As to attachments, well, if you have AVG installed, it should have checked them on your HD, shouldn't it? Or you just want the "virus free" statement added to your outgoing mail, like: Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 12/05/00 I sometimes see this in newsgroups, and can't help but chuckle (unless they have attachments). As I said, plain-text-only messages are virus free by nature. As to attachments, I don't know why one should trust the statement and not scan them oneself. If you're not talking about outgoing mail, then I apologize. But then, it has nothing to do with MAPI, AFAIK. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - system resources
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 11:36:53 -0500 Jan Rifkinson wrote: I have some issues w system resources so I've started checking on program usage. It appears to me that *my* TB! is using about 12% of system resources. Does this sound right? May I ask how you measure it? My best guess is you observed the difference in available system resources before and after launching (or closing) TB, right? I'm afraid that's quite misleading sometimes. All activities in Windows involves system resources consumptions. When TB is launched, not only the program itself is loaded, other system functions (like Winsock.dll, and many others) are also involved. If some system functions have been loaded by other programs (IE, e.g.), launching TB wouldn't not reload them, and the system resources consumed by those functions would not be observed. OTOH, if you launch TB right after you reboot Windows (and before anything else is loaded, including anti-virus software and others that usually load at startup), the system resources drop would be more significant. So, depending on the context of your experiment, 12% could be normal (IIRC, after all, I've moved to Win2k, which doesn't have such problem, for months). That being said, I'm not suggesting TB doesn't have resource leak, or it couldn't be made to be more system resources-efficient. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hello all, Tuesday, March 27, 2001, Ming-Li wrote: Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 12/05/00 I sometimes see this in newsgroups, and can't help but chuckle (unless they have attachments). As I said, plain-text-only messages are virus free by nature. As to attachments, I don't know why one should trust the statement and not scan them oneself. I'm in support mailinglist of this AV and as I remember, it should be an option to "not" certificate mail without attachment. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 , Ming-Li wrote the following in regards to: [The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus] . Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 12/05/00 ML I sometimes see this in newsgroups, and can't help but chuckle ML (unless they have attachments). As I said, plain-text-only messages ML are virus free by nature. As to attachments, I don't know why one ML should trust the statement and not scan them oneself. Actually, you are mistaken. Viruses can be spread through RTF files. RTF files and documents are supposed to be ASCII only, and there can be macro viruses. Of course TB cannot execute these, but Outlook and Outlook Express can. . [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ REAL PROBLEMS / REAL SOLUTION ISSN: 1492-7829 A free weekly newsletter on Windows and networking email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.911networks.com Copyright 1999-2001 by 911networks.com - All Rights Reserved +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001, 1:02:47 PM, syv wrote: s Actually, you are mistaken. Viruses can be spread through RTF s files. RTF files and documents are supposed to be ASCII only, and s there can be macro viruses. How can this happen? AFAIK RTF does not have 'dangerous commands'. Is this just an odd behavior of Outlook? Could you give an (innocuous) example? Thanks, ztrader -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Multiple email addresses for one account
Hello "SyP" wrote On 27 Mar 2001, at 12:29:22 [GMT -] (22:29 Australian Eastern Time,Tuesday): Or, download the X-Ray mail-filtering etc. software from www.xrayapp.com, and set up the two POP3 accounts in it. Then set thr mail server to 127.0.0.1 in TB, and change the actual address with a click from the system tray. Hamster may be a better solution if you also pull news groups. http://home.knuut.de/tgl/ -- Regards John Phillips Sydney, Australia Hamster 1.3.22.1 Bat! 1.51 Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram Dyslexics have more fnu. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hello all, on Tue, 27 Mar 2001, at 13:27:23 local time (GMT -0800), ztrader wrote: How can this happen? AFAIK RTF does not have 'dangerous commands' http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms00-005.asp -- Rob using The Bat! 1.51 ... I don't mind the rat race but I could do with a little more cheese. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 22:25:57 +0200 Marek Mikus wrote: I'm in support mailinglist of this AV and as I remember, it should be an option to "not" certificate mail without attachment. But how is the default setting? And does it know how to distinguish plain-text messages from html ones? Regardless, my point is: as a recipient, I don't know what to make of the statement. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAICT, there's no way to verify the statement. IOW, I could put the statement into my template and suddenly all my message would appear to be AVG certified. If that's the case, those lines don't do much good except blowing up the message size, IMHO. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Invalid keys
Hi Brian, @ 5:01:39 PM on 3/27/2001, Brian Clark wrote: [...] As applied to keys, IMHO, an invalid key should be a key that has been shown to belong to a different person from the stated user. A key that has not been possible to verify if it really belongs to its claimer through an independent test like a letter, telephone call, direct conversation, etc should be called "not validated". This is entirely a PGP issue. TB! doesn't control the output of a key verification, it simply asks PGP to do it's work. Well, I suppose that's wasn't entirely clear. If you're *not* using PGP Tray, TB! calls pgplog.exe to display the signature verification, and displays the decrypted message in the message list separate from the original. But as far as TB! displaying the verified signature information in-line (like Valid, Invalid, Good, etc), TB!'s plugin doesn't do that (yet). As for PGP Tray's use in verifying signatures, depending on which version of PGP you're using, you'll get a pop up window with the decrypted message *and* signature information. But, then you're not using TB!'s plugin at all. -- Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8 [TB! 1.52 Beta/1, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 13:02:47 -0800 syv wrote: ML I sometimes see this in newsgroups, and can't help but chuckle ML (unless they have attachments). As I said, plain-text-only ML messages are virus free by nature. As to attachments, I don't ML know why one should trust the statement and not scan them ML oneself. Actually, you are mistaken. Viruses can be spread through RTF files. RTF files and documents are supposed to be ASCII only, and there can be macro viruses. I think there's some misunderstanding here. I've said "plain-text" messages *without* attachment are virus-free by nature. RTF files are attachments, aren't they? Second, I don't think plain-text email includes everything that can be read with a text editor. If that's the case, even html mail is plain-text mail, isn't it? Third, many programs (in its broadest sense, including macros, scripts, etc.) are stored in a way that can be read with a plain text editor (no binary data included). E.g., .prg (for Dbase), .vbs (visual basic scripts), .bat files and many others. But I don't think you'll call them "plain-text" file, and their functionality depends on a proper "interpreter". When they're not interpreted--i.e., when they're loaded by a plain-text editor (to view their source codes)--they can do no harm, for a plain-text editor would not "execute" the embedded commands. So I think my statement still stands, though I would be happened to be enlightened. :-) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Sorting Filter Read; Active or Re-Filter Only?
Hello TBUDL, Using Read Message Filter set as active. It seems only to work if I do a "Re-Filter all messages". I thought read messages filter would activate upon leaving folder or account. Am I missing something? Thanks. -- Regards, (pdl) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, March 27, 2001 - 15:55:01 (-0800 GMT/UTC) [Using: The Bat! v.1.51; Windows 95 v.4.0.950; 486/66, 32RAM, 28.8BPS] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: TB! v1.51 - system resources
Hi/Bonjour Jan, Sorry, helps you do what? * Increases available RAM for applications and the operating system * Defragments system memory * Recovers RAM from applications and the operating system. * Recovers RAM leaks from poorly behaved applications. * Performance-tunes your file caching. * No performance-robbing compression. * No system files modified or replaced. * No drivers or VxDs are installed on your system. * Complete uninstall facility (which we hope you'll never want to use!) Read the rest here: http://www.memturbo.com/ Aaron mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I cna ytpe 300 wrods pre mniuet. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 , ztrader wrote the following in regards to: [The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus] . z On Tuesday, March 27, 2001, 1:02:47 PM, syv wrote: s Actually, you are mistaken. Viruses can be spread through RTF s files. RTF files and documents are supposed to be ASCII only, and s there can be macro viruses. z How can this happen? AFAIK RTF does not have 'dangerous commands'. Is z this just an odd behavior of Outlook? Could you give an (innocuous) z example? http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/melissa-rtf.html Warning about Melissa Virus in .rtf files We have learned that Melissa virus has recently been spreading again and may not be detected by any antivirus software including Norton AntiVirus. It is important to note that this is not a new variant of the Melissa virus. What we have confirmed a Word document infected by W97M.Melissa.A with the file extension of .rtf is being sent out to many users though email. These documents are not actually in .rtf format files as the file extension name suggests, but is actually a Word format file that has had the file extension name renamed to .rtf. If the antivirus software is not configured to scan the .rtf file extension, the virus will not be detected. To protect yourself from this virus, Symantec AntiVirus Research Center recommends to update the configuration in Norton AntiVirus to include the .rtf file extension as well as the following file extensions in the Scanner and Auto-Protect options. Complete List of File Extension Recommended for Scanning: 386, ADT, BIN, CBT, CLA, COM, CPL, CSC, DLL, DOC, DOT, DRV, EXE, HTM, HTT, JS, MDB, MSO, OV?, POT, PPT, RTF, SCR, SHS, SYS, VBS, XL? To add .rtf to your list of Program Files to be scanned in NAV 95 and NAV NT: 1. Open Norton AntiVirus 2. Click Options. The Options dialog appears. 3. Click the Scanner Tab. 4. Click Select... in the "What to scan" section. NOTE: This button is dimmed (greyed out) if you have the All Files radio button selected. The Program File Extensions dialog will appear. 5. Click New... . 6. Type RTF in the resulting box and then click OK. 7. Click OK in the Options dialog. . [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ REAL PROBLEMS / REAL SOLUTION ISSN: 1492-7829 A free weekly newsletter on Windows and networking email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.911networks.com Copyright 1999-2001 by 911networks.com - All Rights Reserved +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - system resources
Hi Ming-Li, On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:46:10 -0800GMT (28/03/2001, 03:46 +0800GMT), Ming-Li wrote: Not sure since I have many things running at once. I learned of a program MemTurbo last week and it seems to help me tremendously. ML I'm afraid none of those memory cleanup tools is able to reclaim ML system resources for you. That's why you still have to reboot ML Win95/98/Me machines pretty often, even if you've plenty of RAMS. Ack. I used MemTurbo for a while - it's a nice toy. Had I written it, I would be proud. However, it's not very usefull as a tool. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - system resources
Hi Aaron, On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:45:15 -0500GMT (28/03/2001, 03:45 +0800GMT), Aaron wrote: A * Increases available RAM for applications and A the operating system By kicking stuff out onto VM or the swap file. May slow down performance. A * Defragments system memory This it does. Very usefull if your RAM isn't full; as otherwise it puts whole defragged sections into VM. Why would you start MemTurbo if you don't use all of your RAM, though? A * Recovers RAM from applications and the operating system. Depending on how "tough" you set it, this can be useful or counterproductive. But the developer does issue the warning. It is easy to swap out necessary OS routines my mistake. A * Recovers RAM leaks from poorly behaved applications. A * Performance-tunes your file caching. Yes; I suspect it throws out least-recently-used (LRU), which is not always a good idea. In effect, MemTurbo did slow my system down. A * No performance-robbing compression. A * No system files modified or replaced. A * No drivers or VxDs are installed on your system. A * Complete uninstall facility I agree with all four of these. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - system resources
Hi Jan, On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:01:06 -0500GMT (28/03/2001, 03:01 +0800GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR [...] It appears to me that *my* TB! is using about 12% of JR system resources. Does this sound right? 12% of 384M are 46MB. No, it doesn't sound right. Close TB and reopen. See how much RAM it uses now. Any change? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hi Ming-Li and syv, On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:00:40 -0800GMT (28/03/2001, 10:00 +0800GMT), Ming-Li wrote: No, they do not have to be an attachment. It can actually be the message itself and Outlook Express will recognize it as RTF and format it accordingly Actually most of the time HTML email is plain text. Right. Then this is plain text also: iQA/AwUBOrDlTp5u2uXbByI9EQJwvgCgzZneOqd6euittyJh9/di+cYaYokAn2l because I can open it in a text editor. From which amount/precentage of code / keywords / other stuff not intended to be read by humans would you start saying "this is not plain text any more"? ML H, I think we have different definition about what plain-text ML email is. I'm not sure I'm right, though I still think I'm. :-) I think you are. ;-) ML HTML and RTF are, AFAIK, marked text. I don't think they're ML considered "plain text", especially in the context of email. They are not. They contain instructions to the computer. ML Yes, RTF and HTML files are ASCII files in the sense that it can be ML read with a text editor. But when you load a html (or rtf) with a ML text editor, none of the "commands" (the markup codes) is "executed" ML (interpreted). Hence, executing a .bat file can be harmful, but ML loading a .bat in a text editor cannot. Correct. But a .bat file can be a plain-text message, if one programmer sends it to the other in the body of the message (not as attachment) and says "have a look at my code, please". ML BTW, I don't think only ASCII code 32 to 126 are used in today's ML "text". At least for CJK text, ASCII codes higher than 126 are used, ML too. When will we discard ASCII, ISO-8859-x, Big5, GB2312, etc, and only use UTF? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hi syv, On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:04:36 -0800GMT (28/03/2001, 09:04 +0800GMT), syv wrote: s We have learned that Melissa virus has recently been s spreading again and may not be detected by any s antivirus software including Norton AntiVirus. yawn Use PC-Cillin (www.antivirus.com) and be uneffected by about any changed file extensions. Standard setting is "scan all files, include boot sector". -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
