Re: multiple SMTP Server for one Account
Hello John, As one member suggested earlier today, X-Ray discussion belongs to TBOT list. Hence I cross post to both TBUDL TBOT. Anybody interested in X-Ray, please continue it at TBOT. On 27 Jul 2002 15:36:05 (my local time 26 Jul 2002 22:36:05), John Phillips wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Can someone help me with this? Is X-Ray an SMTP server, or only sends through a nominated SMTP (or 2 or 3, etc.?) X-Ray is not a SMTP server per se. Instead of talking to remote SMTP/POP3 server directly, your email client now talks to X-Ray which in turn sends or receives messages from remote server. Why anybody wants to do that? You ask. 1) It enables you to manipulate email header. Modify X-mailer header is just one example. There are other situations it proves to be useful. For example, one client's SMTP server is set up in such a way that any message sent from it have the the domain name of the from/reply-to field replaced with that of the client. So emails sent by my colleagues who work on site bear wrong from/reply-to address. With X-Ray, I am able to fix this problem by replacing the from/reply-to field by filter. 2) Automatic SMTP switching. It is most useful when your SMTP server restricts access by IP. Since TB chooses SMTP server based on the account, if TB talks to remote server directly, you have to either manually change SMTP setting or use different email account to cope with IP change. Both are not very desirable. By talking to a local client like X-Ray, you are relieved from worrying about it. -- Regards, Anthony I am not a great programmer. I am just a good programmer with great habits. -- Kent Beck Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test, please ignore
Hello Peter, Friday, July 26, 2002, 11:20:34 PM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: Uhm, but honest, this doesn't sound very easy to me :) well, but if nothing else works, then it's better to have one long solution than nothing :) Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.61 on Windows XP, 5 1 Build 2600 on Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 8:47:11 AM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test, please ignore
Hello Marck, Saturday, July 27, 2002, 1:52:48 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: BeginFilter Name: DeBase64 Active: 1 Source: \\Inbox Target: \\Inbox MainSet: 00@ Actions: faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey ExtCmd: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /IMPORTU=Marck;F=Inbox;I=C:\export.msg ExtFile: C:\export.msg HotKey: 57432 SaveTemplate: Content-Transfer-Encoding:\20base64\0D\0A%Headers\0D\0A%Text\0D\0A\0D\0A\0D\0A EndFilter Well, this looks like an import Script, but how do I import it ? Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.61 on Windows XP, 5 1 Build 2600 on Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 8:48:44 AM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Xray and ADR
Has anyone configured Xray and ADR to work together using the supplied DLL in ADR to remove the x-mailer headers? I'm confused by the set up process and would welcome advice. -- Regards Clive Taylor Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test, please ignore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Clemens, @27 July 2002, 08:50 +0200 (07:50 UK time) Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer [CS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: BeginFilter ... snip EndFilter CS Well, this looks like an import Script, but how do I import it ? Mark from BeginFilter to EndFilter with the mouse and press Ctrl-C. Open the sorting office and click on Incoming mail. Press Ctrl-V to paste. You now have a new manual filter called DeBase64. Customize as required and enjoy. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9QlT4OeQkq5KdzaARAnvTAKDyjPS4Nj0jtVWI12/GNRDbJMcdnQCg6DWx fCAi4vpOddyaXyeWawCQ/34= =24uW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Get Rid of References Header
Hello Mike Thank you for your email dated Saturday, July 27, 2002, 2:23:44 AM, in which you wrote: MD they claim I'm making things easier for Carnivore. It's a well known fact that TB! is vegetarian and therefore has built-in defences. -- Regards William Flying with The Bat! 1.61 www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 2 Listening to: Elmore James - So Unkind Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test, please ignore
Hallo Marck, On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 00:52:48 +0100GMT (27-7-02, 1:52 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MDP or use Ctrl-Alt-Shift-X once you've created this filter: Nice filter. Copied (and edited) it. I had one slight difficulty, since I read most messages in the preview screen, I copied this from that and had some unintended line breaks. I looked at the filter and I couldn't understand why it should do what you explained. ;-) The remedy was to copy it from full screen. MDP ExtCmd: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /IMPORTU=Marck;F=Inbox;I=C:\export.msg I've never realised that you could call TB as an external command. Whenever I had a filter that required that, I always used a batch file. Finally I've to say that it's kind of sneaky of you that you've never given us this solution when somebody asked a way to add custom headers to a message. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test, please ignore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roelof, @27 July 2002, 11:13 +0200 (10:13 UK time) Roelof Otten [RO] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: RO ... I copied this from that and had some unintended line Breaks. Darn!!! Don't I always forget about those line breaks? ... snip RO Finally I've to say that it's kind of sneaky of you that you've RO never given us this solution when somebody asked a way to add RO custom headers to a message. You know, I never thought of it before. I just realised that all of the steps involved in viewing a base64 miscoded messages could be put into a filter. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9QmWbOeQkq5KdzaARAlLvAJ4sP9GKL/BhNcuEITqrn0TCY8TeFwCdEhyY hEI3+x4FDV+Gl/zTJNxLxs0= =A8EV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Get Rid of References Header
Hallo Mike, On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:31:47 -0700GMT (27-7-02, 0:31 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MD How would I eliminate the References header in my mail threads? MD I have no desire to sort by thread and I'm getting complaints from MD my paranoid IT friends. Without third party tools you can't remove them. As far as your paranoid IT friends are concerned, point them to rfc2822, that says the following about the references header: 3.6.4. Identification fields Though optional, every message SHOULD have a Message-ID: field. Furthermore, reply messages SHOULD have In-Reply-To: and References: fields as appropriate, as described below. The Message-ID: field contains a single unique message identifier. The References: and In-Reply-To: field each contain one or more unique message identifiers, optionally separated by CFWS. somewhat further on it continues: The In-Reply-To: and References: fields are used when creating a reply to a message. They hold the message identifier of the original message and the message identifiers of other messages (for example, in the case of a reply to a message which was itself a reply). The In-Reply-To: field may be used to identify the message (or messages) to which the new message is a reply, while the References: field may be used to identify a thread of conversation. This ought to satisfy them. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: No Exit
Hello Peter, On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:17:20 +0200 GMT (27/07/02, 02:17 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP If a connection hangs (for _whatever_ reason, nobody could tell me PP yet; my 'netstat' both on server and client tells: there is no PP connection anymore) the button ain't working; so why showing it in PP this dialog too? Simply making it working in CC would be enough ;-( Correct. I didn't use netstat (which is buggy anyway), but if you are sure the connection is closed, then we are indeed talking about a bug. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: encoded message
Hello Tim, On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 08:41:59 +1000 GMT (27/07/02, 05:41 +0700 GMT), Tim wrote: T I agree, and apologise. My excuse is that I'd just moved house and T come down with the flu simultaneously, Don't worry. Get well soon. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
External Exception 80000003
Hi Bat 1.60q on Windows XP Prof If i write a new mail and try to enter a receiver-adress i get a small box saying External Exception 8003 popping up every half second. If i do nothing this results in an endless Stack of small message-boxes with the text and and an ok-button. If i click the OK-Button the message text changes to Privileged Instruction and when i press ok again then The Bat simply quits. I have set up two Accounts (Business and private). One works fine, the others has this strange effect. I have no problem when pasting an adress or when entering an adress i've used before. I have also no problem when mailing under Windows 98SE. Any ideas? -- cu Holger Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TheBat! filtered for spam
Hello Lynn, On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:09:20 -0700 GMT (27/07/02, 02:09 +0700 GMT), Lynn Turriff wrote: However, I never understood who (apart from spammers) would need the mass mailing feature and am not surprised that Ritlabs apparently linked to spammer sites until recently. LT I subscribe to several newsletters which are surely 'mass LT mailed', and if I want to send the same message to my LT whole address book, or a section of it .. to announce a LT family event, perhaps, or a change of address, real or LT virtual, I wouldn't want it considered spam. Thanks to you and all the people that have given examples of how they use the mass mailing feature without being spammers. I've learned that there is quite a legitimate use for the feature. I might even look into it myself. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For drowning: Climb on top of the person and move up and down to make artificial perspiration. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: External Exception 80000003
Dear Holger, Saturday, July 27, 2002, 1:24:03 PM, you wrote: HL Bat 1.60q on Windows XP Prof HL I have no problem when pasting an adress or when entering an adress HL i've used before. I have also no problem when mailing under Windows 98SE. You have dual boot and use the same TB with the same account folder? One suggestion - try to delete Account.his file. Maybe it is damaged and TB crashes when it tries to make autocomplete using info from this file. -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version :1.62/Beta1, Running at NT 5.0, Build 2195 Service Pack 2. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
No X-Mail header
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, July 27, 2002 5:41 AM (Pacific ST) GMT -0800 Hello Allie, I just noticed here lately that there is no X-Mail header in your messages. Is there a setting to eliminate this header? - -- Wayne Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0xAE34E6E7 Using TheBat! 1.61 With Windows 98se 4.10 PGP key available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendPGPKey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPUKWU2cRgL2uNObnEQKy0wCeN9MLdzuakrngjfpB0ILYbirteEQAn2+F p3E49Agi6pxx3c2/yoFptwrl =N5KZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: No Exit
Hello Thomas, On Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 12:36:22 PM you [TF] wrote (at least in part): TF I didn't use netstat (which is buggy anyway), In which manner? I think you're talking about Windows 'netstat', because I'm sure my Linux 'netstat' works like it should, but I'm interested nevertheless. TF but if you are sure the connection is closed, I am. For months I am. TF then we are indeed talking about a bug. We are. The problem is: albeit I do know this is a bug, and there ain't serious doubts left, it seems it can't be reproduced intentionally. Therefore it is hard to 'hunt down and fix' ;-/ -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Maintainer's Motto: If we can't fix it, it ain't broke. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Xray and ADR
Hello People. Quick question Why does the Bat! insist on downloading every message that you alreaady have when you change the Keep Messages on server option? Does the Bat not keep a list of all downloaded messages? Would it not make more sense just to delete them if they dont fit the Keep On Server rule? -- Best regards, Michael Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: External Exception 80000003
Hello Sergey, Saturday, July 27, 2002, 12:40:40 PM, you wrote: SU Dear Holger, SU Saturday, July 27, 2002, 1:24:03 PM, you wrote: HL Bat 1.60q on Windows XP Prof HL I have no problem when pasting an adress or when entering an adress HL i've used before. I have also no problem when mailing under Windows 98SE. SU You have dual boot and use the same TB with the same account folder? SU One suggestion - try to delete Account.his file. Maybe it is damaged SU and TB crashes when it tries to make autocomplete using info from this SU file. Try upgrading to the latest version, 1.61. I had similar problems and this sorted them fine... -- Best regards, Michael Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Get Rid of References Header
On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 01:37, Dierk Haasis wrote: I gather the difficulty for them lies not so much in virus protection but the possibility to track the originators of the messages down (by simply clicking on the message ID). Even if this could *always* be done (theoretically possible), it just means that they are afraid of their own (openly sent) messages. Then I do believe they may be missing a very simple fact... the mail server logs all connections attempting to send and receive mail. If the content was bda enough, and they wanted to track down who sent it, take the time in the file, who it was sent to, and scan the log files... plus there is the from fields etc ;) Just think of all the people that have been laid off (reportedly there should be a bundle) because they wrote badly about their bosses/company/colleagues in Usenet. It harks back to the old problem of how to behave in e-mails/postings. If one thinks one is anonymous one will let off the leash. No such thing as anonymity in the corporate world, I have evidence that one of the support staff where I work, and admin the network is in search of a new job, but it starts to bound on the lines of unethical if I look, or unethical that she is doing it... so for now, I have not mentioned anything. There are always plenty of log files created by one service or another tracking everything you're doing, even if the people running the service are incompetent, and don't know they're actually doing it. That, BTW, is the main reason Netiquette developed, it is a more or less written social code to avoid violence. People seem to forget that electronic communication is as viable as classical written one (letters, articles, books). There is a nice piece about this by Douglas Adams, which, I think, can be found on his website www.douglasadams.com. The part about the difference in value people assign to different forms of communication is somewhere hidden in an article about the future of the Internet (IIRC). Douglas Adams always has a funny outlook on things, I'll see if I can track it down, and have a read ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: No X-Mail header
On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 07:47, Wayne Black wrote: Hello Allie, I just noticed here lately that there is no X-Mail header in your messages. Is there a setting to eliminate this header? Not a setting, but I believe he is using X-Ray... try reading the thread both on here, and TBOT (see footer details). -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: No Exit
On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 08:31, Peter Palmreuther wrote: TF then we are indeed talking about a bug. We are. The problem is: albeit I do know this is a bug, and there ain't serious doubts left, it seems it can't be reproduced intentionally. Therefore it is hard to 'hunt down and fix' ;-/ Sounds very similar to an outlook bug where if the server terminates the connection, Outlook doesn't always get told (blame it on the winsock I believe), so it sticks open with the download still in process. The issue being is it is still sending messages back and forth to the TCP stack, and the TCP stack is responding, outlook just never gets the right signal to say it has been terminate. This happened to somebody yesterday at work, they were downloading emails, and it apparently stopped on the screen, I pulled up the mail logs on the server, and the server reported the connection was terminated, but no matter what you tried, outlook wouldn't accept it. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: XRay
Hello St, On Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 12:19:14 AM you [SMN] wrote (at least in part): SMN what I am aiming at is having the headers munged so that when SMN reporting spam I don't have to go in and remove or munge my real SMN addresses of mine before passing the mail over to what could be SMN [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. Please have a look at the current XRay discussion on TBOT, maybe this fits your needs (albeit I still prefer deleting 'Receved:' header manually). SMN Also, it would be nice to SMN munge addresses in place where a SMN message is redirected by The Bat SMN (mailing lists on The Bat). SMN (I assume that the old headers are included in the redirected SMN message and that might not be a wanted feature...). Using manual 'Redirect' function stripes these headers (BTW one thing I'd like to see corrected, as TB! does not 'redirect' a message but creates a new one with some headers initialized from values in original message; a big difference to me). I don't know if a 'filter executed redirect' works the same, but it would make sense. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) What's so funny 'bout Peace, Love, and Understanding? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
OT: netstat (was: No Exit)
Hello Peter, On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:31:00 +0200 GMT (27/07/02, 20:31 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: TF I didn't use netstat (which is buggy anyway), PP In which manner? PP I think you're talking about Windows 'netstat', because I'm sure my PP Linux 'netstat' works like it should, but I'm interested nevertheless. Yes, I was talking about Windows netstat. After a connection has been closed, it will often still show it as open. I forgot about the circumstances, but it is a well-known bug and a more detailled description can probably be found by a little google action. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ich bin ferner mit meinen Nerven am Ende und habe mit einer schweren Kastritis zu tun. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Get Rid of References Header
Hello Jonathan! On Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 4:03:35 PM you wrote: No such thing as anonymity in the corporate world, I have evidence that one of the support staff where I work, and admin the network is in search of a new job, but it starts to bound on the lines of unethical if I look, or unethical that she is doing it... so for now, I have not mentioned anything. There are always plenty of log files created by one service or another tracking everything you're doing, even if the people running the service are incompetent, and don't know they're actually doing it. Well, my PoV on this situation - although nobody will be really interested: I think one should do what plain good taste an common sense tells one, ignore such personal items. Only if you see an actual violation of common law/rules should you interfere. Douglas Adams always has a funny outlook on things, I'll see if I can track it down, and have a read ;) Sadly it is had for something more than a year now ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C I think the idea of art is killing creativity. (Douglas Adams) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Xray and ADR
27 July 2002, 14:58, you wrote: MT Why does the Bat! insist on downloading every message that you MT alreaady have when you change the Keep Messages on server option? Why have you replied to my message when it's obvious even at a glance that it's got nothing to do with the original question? -- Clive Taylor Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Xray and ADR
Hello Clive, Saturday, July 27, 2002, 4:19:43 PM, you wrote: CT 27 July 2002, 14:58, you wrote: MT Why does the Bat! insist on downloading every message that you MT alreaady have when you change the Keep Messages on server option? CT Why have you replied to my message when it's obvious even at a glance CT that it's got nothing to do with the original question? forgot to change the subject.. -- Best regards, Michael Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Xray and ADR
Hi Michael, on Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:25:24 +0100GMT (27.07.02, 17:25 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CT Why have you replied to my message when it's obvious even at a glance CT that it's got nothing to do with the original question? MT forgot to change the subject.. You'd better not hit reply and change the subject, but start a new thread with a new message instead. The Bat! can thread messages by references, and that's how many users have set it up. So your mail appears in the thread Xray and ADR where it won't be read by people not interested in this thread. (Sorry Clive, no answer to your question either - I don't even know what ADR is supposed to mean... ;-) ) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Need help with a Klez filter!
Hi Spike,
On Friday, July 26, 2002, Spike wrote:
KGH I'm getting spammed to death by this $#!%@*#! Klez virus,
KGH and could really use some help setting up a filter!
SI'm not sure what you want TB! to do! The NAV is catching it BEFORE TB!
Seven sees it! Only after the message is stored in a folder {INBOX} will
Sa filter be used. NAV catches it and quarantines it as it is supposed to.
Yes, I know that...I'm not concerned that it is/was a virus.
What I _would_ like is that they be moved to another folder/trash instead
of processed by other filters, and thereby scattered within the account
folders!
KGH The one common factor is that Norton AV is catching the
KGH virus itself,
SThis is exactly what is supposed to happen! :-)
SIf you don't want any virus to reach you, the only option is to pull the
Slittle phone plug out of the wall! Not what you want :( I only get about
S20 of them a day, which I IGNORE as I don't even use any anti-virus. TB!
Sdoesn't need it if set up properly, and with an educated user :)
Again, I'm not concerned that I'm receiving these due to a virus - the
virus doesn't effect me. What is a PITA is that I get 50+ of these a day,
and I am wasting a growing amount of time weeding them out. The purpose
of filters is to automate this kind of mundane work, but as Jonathan Angliss
points out (thanks Jonathan), the Bat! filters won't search into multi-part
headers, so I'm going to have to post this as a feature request I suppose.
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg44508.html
Thanks anyway ;-)
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Re: Xray and ADR
Hi Peter, on Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:09:01 +0200 GMT (which was Saturday, July 27, 2002, 18:09 where I live) Peter Meyns wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: (Sorry Clive, no answer to your question either - I don't even know what ADR is supposed to mean... ;-) ) Advanced Direct Remailer -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ! Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Xray and ADR
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Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)
On Friday, July 26, 2002, Thomas wrote: I vote for continuing this thread on TBOT rather than offlist. This thread seems to me to be very on-topic. Not being able to send email to someone is an important problem for TB users. -- PFord The Bat! 1.60h (reg) Windows 98 4.10 Build Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)
On Friday, July 26, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote: Only your poor recipient will be affected by such a move. I'd just change the mailer header until the recipient can sort out the problem by persuading his ISP into changing their policy or moving to another ISP. A recipient not using TB isn't likely to be very motivated to tussle with their ISP and changing the mailer header is not a task the average TB user is going to relish. If the X-mailer value is the problem, why doen't RIT Labs just remove it? Isn't it optional in a header? -- PFord The Bat! 1.60h (reg) Windows 98 4.10 Build Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Need help with a Klez filter!
Hello Kim, On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:40:05 -0400 GMT (27/07/02, 23:40 +0700 GMT), Kim G. Henkel wrote: KGH Again, I'm not concerned that I'm receiving these due to a virus - the KGH virus doesn't effect me. What is a PITA is that I get 50+ of these a day, KGH and I am wasting a growing amount of time weeding them out. Just a suggestion: I would try and change email addresses. 50+ non-relevant messages a day (virus or spam) would be enough to even consider the trouble of talking to a sysad in the office, and informing all legit keepers of my email address of the change (whether private or business). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Vacuum: A large, empty space where the pope lives. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)
Hello Paula, On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:00:27 -0400 GMT (28/07/02, 00:00 +0700 GMT), PFord wrote: P If the X-mailer value is the problem, why doen't RIT Labs just remove P it? Isn't it optional in a header? Yes, X-Mailer is optional. All X-headers are optional, and most other MUA-generated ones as well (except for From and Date). But I vote for customisable headers rather than taking this one off. Actually, what I am currently thinking is that the functionality of Xray should be integrated into TB. - Is that feasible? Hmm. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Love will find you, even if you are trying to hide from it. I've been trying to hide from it since I was five, but the girls keep finding me. (Bobby, 8) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)
Hi Thomas, on Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:30:19 +0700GMT (27.07.02, 19:30 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : TF Actually, what I am currently thinking is that the functionality of TF Xray should be integrated into TB. - Is that feasible? Hmm. Might be. Very good idea indeed! :o) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt 'Yield to temptation. It may not come your way again.' Oscar Wilde Winamp currently playing: Shakira - Underneath Your Clothes Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test, please ignore
Hello Marck, Saturday, July 27, 2002, 10:08:22 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Mark from BeginFilter to EndFilter with the mouse and press Ctrl-C. Open the sorting office and click on Incoming mail. Press Ctrl-V to paste. You now have a new manual filter called DeBase64. Customize as required and enjoy. great. didn't know it was so easy to export import filters in the bat ... Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.61 on Windows XP, 5 1 Build 2600 on Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 8:38:48 PM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Need help with a Klez filter!
On Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 9:40:05 AM , Kim scibbled:
S Only after the message is stored in a folder {INBOX} will
S a filter be used. NAV catches it and quarantines it as it is supposed to.
KGH What I _would_ like is that they be moved to another folder/trash instead
KGH of processed by other filters, and thereby scattered within the account
KGH folders!
Understandable... and I believe, earlier, someone mentioned AVG? :) I have
used AVG for a while now and with the TB! plugin, I get a warning, and AVG
scoots the email into a neat, separate Quarantine folder. This is done BY
AVG itself...no filters necessary :) And I just right click on the FOLDER
ITSELF, and choose Empty Folder and the virus never gets anywhere. :)
I am not sure, but also earlier in the thread, someone mentioned filtering
by subject and I THINK you can create those filters, then go into the
filter options in TB!, find that filter, then choose the ACTIONS tab and tik
the delete message or delete message from the server box... and that will
delete the message? That way it would never be filtered anywhere except to
your trash folderor maybe even remove it entirely from the account ?
Since I do not use NAV, I am not really sure how it works with TB! or how
it would work with the filters suggested can someone else maybe
elaborate for me, and give opinion on whether this would work or not?
Blessings and light,
~~~Angel
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Xray Connections to SMTP server?
Hello TBUDL, I have Xray set up to remove X-mailer header to prevent blocking. In TB I do not have POP before SMTP authentication selected. Things appear to working because I can receive email in another account with the X-mailer header removed. I thought the connection sequence on send were (1)TB--}Xray (2)Xray--}SMTP server of ISP. If this is correct one would think the Win98 Dial-up connection icon in the taskbar would not indicate processing until the last step. Why does the Win98 dial-up connection icon in taskbar indicate processing in step #1 when I do not have POP before SMTP authentication selected for the account on only a send-now from the editor? -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 98 PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xB1FE63FABody=Please20send20keys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Xray Connections to SMTP server?
Hello Greg, Saturday, July 27, 2002, 2:07:36 PM, you wrote: Sorry, should have been sent to TBOT. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 98 PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xB1FE63FABody=Please20send20keys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test, please ignore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Clemens, @27 July 2002, 20:39 +0200 (19:39 UK time) Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer [CS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: CS great. didn't know it was so easy to export import filters in the CS bat ... Yes ... and it's easy to mess them up too! Let me try again: BeginFilter Name: DeBase64 Source: \\Inbox Target: \\Inbox MainSet: 00@ Actions: faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey ExtCmd:C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /IMPORTU=Marck;F=Inbox;I=C:\export.msg ExtFile:C:\export.msg HotKey: 57432 SaveTemplate:Content-Transfer-Encoding:\20base64\0D\0A%Headers\0D\0A%Text\0D\0A\0D\0A\0D\0A EndFilter Don't let any of the lines wrap when copying! Keep a specially vigilant eye on the ExtCmd: line. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9QvjHOeQkq5KdzaARAgZQAJ0d7m4eQCje/7I2XHL2iuCZvUfnZACgp9xr nbcLzgAeDc/uk+IzMDI8D+8= =073c -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Need help with a Klez filter!
Hello Angel,
Saturday, July 27, 2002, 8:04:54 PM, you wrote:
A On Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 9:40:05 AM , Kim scibbled:
S Only after the message is stored in a folder {INBOX} will
S a filter be used. NAV catches it and quarantines it as it is supposed to.
KGH What I _would_ like is that they be moved to another folder/trash instead
KGH of processed by other filters, and thereby scattered within the account
KGH folders!
A Understandable... and I believe, earlier, someone mentioned AVG? :) I have
A used AVG for a while now and with the TB! plugin, I get a warning, and AVG
A scoots the email into a neat, separate Quarantine folder. This is done BY
A AVG itself...no filters necessary :) And I just right click on the FOLDER
A ITSELF, and choose Empty Folder and the virus never gets anywhere. :)
A I am not sure, but also earlier in the thread, someone mentioned filtering
A by subject and I THINK you can create those filters, then go into the
A filter options in TB!, find that filter, then choose the ACTIONS tab and tik
A the delete message or delete message from the server box... and that will
A delete the message? That way it would never be filtered anywhere except to
A your trash folderor maybe even remove it entirely from the account ?
Yes, but could this not get really messy witha all the different
subjects the infected emails could have, and new variants may use
different subjects, so would this not afford protection?
A Since I do not use NAV, I am not really sure how it works with TB! or how
A it would work with the filters suggested can someone else maybe
A elaborate for me, and give opinion on whether this would work or not?
NAV sits between the Mail client and the Server, examing mail as it is
sent recived. The send I think works as its own SMTP device.
I dont think NAV will support features such as filtering to folders
because of this, as the message attachment will never reach The BAt!
or any other email app, so as far as the BAT is concerd the email is
coming straight from the server with no scanning.
NAV Uses Port 3066 I think to listen for traffic and filters from
there.
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Re[2]: Need help with a Klez filter!
Hello Angel,
Saturday, July 27, 2002, 9:04:54 PM, you wrote:
A On Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 9:40:05 AM , Kim scibbled:
S Only after the message is stored in a folder {INBOX} will
S a filter be used. NAV catches it and quarantines it as it is supposed to.
A Understandable... and I believe, earlier, someone mentioned AVG? :) I have
A used AVG for a while now and with the TB! plugin, I get a warning, and AVG
A scoots the email into a neat, separate Quarantine folder. This is done BY
A AVG itself...no filters necessary :) And I just right click on the FOLDER
A ITSELF, and choose Empty Folder and the virus never gets anywhere. :)
Excuse me for jumping in, but I DO use NAV with TB!, and that IS
exactly what NAV does! It squirrels the email *directly* to its
quarantine directory and does *not* let come into the Inbox. And in
fact, I *don't* see it there.
My personal experience...
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As if we didn't have ENOUGH problems with ISPs...
here's the (partial) text from www.mailutilities.com, touting their Advanced Direct Remailer [read that as SPAMMING, folks] software: Description. Advanced Direct Remailer (ADR) is a powerful remailer and mass mailer which send your message straight out to the recipient's mail server (without your ISP's SMTP server). ADR realizes multi-threaded direct delivery, and so works several times quicker than usual email client. view full-size screenshot The program has its own internal SMTP server, and can be easily configured to work with any email client (Outlook, Outlook Express, Edudora, etc.), any other mail server or mass mailer --snip-- As already noted, ADR works fine with all mail clients, but we strongly recommend you to use it with TheBat - really cool program which supports multiple accounts and multiple users, has fully customizable message templates to save hours of typing, powerful filtering for automated message handling, supports all PGP versions, has a Mail Dispatcher for managing email on remote servers, provides simultaneous mail processing in the background for all accounts and more. -- rest of ad snipped-- Just what we need... spamware touting TB! as their preferred choice. You'll also find TB! mentioned in their ads for Advanced Maillist Verify, Advanced Emai lExtractor, and Advanced Mailbox Processor. But here's the real killer-- Go to their Partners page, and you find the following ad: Special Offer from RITLabs S.R.L. If you are a registered user of any of our products (AEE, AMV or ADR), you can receive a great discount on The Bat!, developed by RITLabs S.R.L. The Bat! is a powerful email client that has every feature for an advanced user and a friendly neat interface. It has everything expected in an email client plus unlimited number of accounts and identities, flexible search functions, automatic spell-checker, powerful filtering and message template capabilities, message threading, PGP support, direct email management on remote servers, and many more... Use our discount and pay: only $18 for Student License (instead of $25 regular price, save $7); only $25 for Private License (instead of $35 regular price, save $10); only $33 for Business License (instead of $45 regular price, save $12); More information about TheBat! can be found here. If you want to purchase TheBat! with this discount, please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for pricing and purchase arrangements. Don't forget to specify your registration name, also please tell us how many copies of software you wish to purchase with the discount. Gee, I can't wait until my ISP hears about this one. Art mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Xray and ADR
27 July 2002, 17:09, you wrote: PM Sorry Clive, no answer to your question either - I don't even know what PM ADR is supposed to mean... I was deliberately cryptic because unless you know what ADR is... you wouldn't necessarily know the answer to my query :) -- Clive Taylor Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Need help with a Klez filter!
On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 12:25, Thomas F. wrote: Just a suggestion: I would try and change email addresses. 50+ non-relevant messages a day (virus or spam) would be enough to even consider the trouble of talking to a sysad in the office, and informing all legit keepers of my email address of the change (whether private or business). And that'd just give the possibly infected user another email address to mail the virus too ;) Changing your address probably won't have that much of an affect. Try bugging the sysadmin to track down the source, and see if you can work out who sent it. Either that, or get your sysadmin/isp to install a virus scanner on the mail server, and get it to drop the mail on the server :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test, please ignore
Hello Marck, Saturday, July 27, 2002, 9:47:16 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Yes ... and it's easy to mess them up too! Let me try again: [filter] Don't let any of the lines wrap when copying! Keep a specially vigilant eye on the ExtCmd: line. Has the other one u posted been broken ? Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.61 on Windows XP, 5 1 Build 2600 on Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 12:56:34 AM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test, please ignore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Clemens, @27 July 2002, 00:56 +0200 (23:56 UK time) Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer [CS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: Yes ... and it's easy to mess them up too! Let me try again: CS [filter] Don't let any of the lines wrap when copying! Keep a specially vigilant eye on the ExtCmd: line. CS Has the other one u posted been broken ? Only ISFA some of the lines got wrapped. It doesn't work quite right with the lines wrapped. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9QymhOeQkq5KdzaARArhHAJ9OhZIPObEYF6yCn7SnYg6mmVDHsQCdEoqq fp6+IFafPXiFOY4OfNga5ho= =mqLr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: TheBat! filtered for spam
Saturday, July 27, 2002, 4:02:54 AM, you wrote: TF Thanks to you and all the people that have given examples of how TF they TF use the mass mailing feature without being spammers. I've TF learned that TF there is quite a legitimate use for the feature. I might even TF look TF into it myself. ;-) First you have to get your *entire* extended family on line :-) Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[3]: Need help with a Klez filter!
Saturday, July 27, 2002, 2:47:34 PM, you wrote: JS Excuse me for jumping in, but I DO use NAV with TB!, and JS that IS JS exactly what NAV does! It squirrels the email *directly* JS to its JS quarantine directory and does *not* let come into the Inbox. JS And in JS fact, I *don't* see it there. JS My personal experience... I'm pretty sure mine does too .. or actually deletes it. It's in the settings somewhere, I think - you can tell it to quarantine or delete. Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Skipping parts not interesting
Hello Peter, Saturday, July 27, 2002, 1:39:01 PM, you wrote: PM You'd better not hit reply and change the subject, but start a new thread PM with a new message instead. The Bat! can thread messages by references, and PM that's how many users have set it up. So your mail appears in the thread PM Xray and ADR where it won't be read by people not interested in this PM thread. Speaking of which, what proportion of folks do skip threads entirely on such basis? Versus reading all mail. I'd be curious. And I wonder too what ya do with threads with a bunch of Unread status indicators, sort of glaring at you. And liable to pull you back towards them depending how you're advancing to new mail. PM (Sorry Clive, no answer to your question either - I don't even know what PM ADR is supposed to mean... ;-) ) Yeah. It'd be nice if some would try and spell out the frequent acronyms from time to time, just to invite the biggest audience to discussion. I've heard of that one of course. -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Skipping parts not interesting
Saturday, July 27, 2002, 5:31:46 PM, you wrote: A Speaking of which, what proportion of folks do skip A threads entirely on such basis? Versus reading all A mail. I do. A I'd be curious. And I wonder too what ya do with A threads with a bunch of Unread status indicators, sort A of glaring at you. And liable to pull you back towards A them depending how you're advancing to new mail. Delete, delete, delete ... :-) I'm ruthless, and fast :-) Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: As if we didn't have ENOUGH problems with ISPs...
On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 at 17:03 GMT -0500 (6:03 PM, 7/27/2002 where I live), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [AM] wrote to TBUDL @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to As if we didn't have ENOUGH problems with ISPs...: [...] As already noted, ADR works fine with all mail clients, but we strongly recommend you to use it with TheBat - really cool program which supports multiple accounts and multiple users, has fully customizable message templates to save hours of typing, powerful filtering for automated message handling, supports all PGP versions, has a Mail Dispatcher for managing email on remote servers, provides simultaneous mail processing in the background for all accounts and more. AM -- rest of ad snipped-- AM Just what we need... spamware touting TB! as their AM preferred choice. You'll also find TB! mentioned in AM their ads for Advanced Maillist Verify, Advanced Emai AM lExtractor, and Advanced Mailbox Processor. But here's AM the real killer-- Go to their Partners page, and you AM find the following ad: Special Offer from RITLabs S.R.L. If you are a registered user of any of our products (AEE, AMV or ADR), you can receive a great discount on The Bat!, developed by RITLabs My goodness, what is RIT Labs thinking? They're nuts if they don't put a stop to this. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta1/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: filtering spam
On Friday, July 26, 2002, 5:13:09 AM, Thomas wrote: You've made us curious: what was the problem? ;-) I don't remember. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Skipping parts not interesting
In[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Lynn Turriff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be curious. And I wonder too what ya do with threads with a bunch of Unread status indicators, sort of glaring at you. And liable to pull you back towards them depending how you're advancing to new mail. Delete, delete, delete ... :-) I'm ruthless, and fast :-) I think it is the duty of every subscriber to read every message that is being potsted on TBUDL. If only to avoid the possibility of posing a very silly question about a subject that has just been discussed extensively on the List (adding, deleting or changing e-mail headers springs to mind.). Arjan -- 6.51 Scepticism is not irrefutable, but obviously nonsensical, when it tries to raise doubts where no questions can be asked. For doubt can exist only where a question exists, a question only where an answer exists, and an answer only where something can be said. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TheBat
Hello TBUDL, How do I make NAV 2001 works with TheBat ??? Thanks -- Best regards, mauricio mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TheBat
Hi mauricio, On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:33:40 -0300 GMT (Jul 28, 08:18 my local time), you [mdn] wrote mdn How do I make NAV 2001 works with TheBat ??? ,- [ http://www.gjctech.co.uk/misc/batnav.html ] - | Norton Antivirus (NAV) doesn't support The Bat! explicitly. However, | NAV 2001 can provide POP3 services and registers itself on your | computer with the server name pop3.norton.antivirus. You can use any | POP3 client (including The Bat!) to retrieve mail from this virtual | server. | | You need to configure both Norton Antivirus and The Bat! before NAV | can scan your incoming email. | | Step 1 Configure NAV to accept POP3 requests: | | Open NAV 2001, either from the Start menu or by double-clicking the | System Tray icon. In the Options dialog box, expand Email Protection | then select Advanced. Select Enable Manual Configuration. If you want | NAV to indicate when it is processing email, select Display Tray Icon | When Processing Email. This causes an animated icon to appear in the | system tray whenever NAV processes email. If you are connecting via a | router or dial-up connection that may time out while NAV processes | large attachments, select Protect Against Timeouts When Scanning | Email. | | Step 2 Configure NAV 2001 to take appropriate action | | The Ask me what to do setting causes NAV to stop processing and to | wait for your instructions whenever it detects a virus in incoming | email. This prevents unattended download of all subsequent messages | until you have provided the requested instructions. To select a more | appropriate action: | | In the NAV Options window, select Email Protection. In the Action | list, select the required action, for example, Quarantine the | Attachment or Delete the Attachment. Close the NAV Options window. | | Step 3 Configure The Bat! to use NAV | | In this step, you configure The Bat! to use the NAV virtual server | (pop3.norton.antivirus) and change your username so that it directs | NAV to your ISP's POP3 server. You should only need change the Mail | Server and User settings. | | In The Bat!, open the Account Properties sheet. In the property tree, | select Transport. In Mail Server, enter pop3.norton.antivirus In User, | enter your user name, a slash, then the name of your ISP's POP3 | server. For example, if your user name is fred, and your ISP's POP3 | server is mail.myisp.net, into the User box, you should enter | fred/mail.myisp.net Click OK. | | | | You can also find this procedure in the NAV2001 help (start by looking | for email in the index). `- [ End Quote ] - -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600 ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.6 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [Opera 6.04, Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall] -==- Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TheBat
Hello Sudip, Saturday, July 27, 2002, 11:40:48 PM, you wrote: SP | You need to configure both Norton Antivirus and The Bat! before NAV SP | can scan your incoming email. Thanks for your fast answer and for the solution; I made all the changes and it worked very fine. -- Best regards, mauriciomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TheBat
Hello Mauricio, mdn How do I make NAV 2001 works with TheBat ??? Open Nav and go to Options and look for Email. It's all right there in order, and self-explanatory. :) You don't have to specify The Bat!, just turn on email scanning. If I remember correctly, you simply tell it something like other client or something like that. However, I highly suggest upgrading to Nav 2002. As of 2002 it pretty much does it all for you, and you don't have to configure it at all, it just 'sees' incoming email, regardless of client. Very cool. (You might want to turn off the outbound mail scan, though -- that can get really annoying.) Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Need help with a Klez filter!
Hello Jonathan, On 27 Jul 2002 17:21:59 -0500 GMT (28/07/02, 05:21 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: JA And that'd just give the possibly infected user another email address to JA mail the virus too ;) Not necessarily. All those who get the info about the new address will also be told the reason - that someone with the old address on his computer keeps sending the Klez virus and all are asked to scan their computers to see whether it's them. JA Changing your address probably won't have that much of an affect. JA Try bugging the sysadmin to track down the source, and see if you JA can work out who sent it. This would be the first step, before even changing the address. I assumed that the sources (of 50+ virus mails *per day*) could not be found. JA Either that, or get your sysadmin/isp to install a virus scanner JA on the mail server, and get it to drop the mail on the server :) Probably a good idea, which will work in a company environment but not if you are connected to an ISP. For illustration, I once sent a very angry email to my own ISP after I had I complained that their public announcements (server down / international link down / etc) were in text/html which I couldn't read with the version of pine on their server and which opens when I telnet into my account on port 23. They recommended using Outlook. I didn't even notice that Outlook probably doesn't run under unix (does it?), but apart from the fact that it was the pine version they themselves had offered to me (and left me no choice when reading my mail while travelling), I was so surprised that an ISP would recommend the major virus distributor since the invention of the internet, that I really bashed them. I wouldn't expect them to know how to set up server-side virus protection and would always protect myself, even if they said they have done so. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Our parents were never our age. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Skipping parts not interesting
Hello Arjan, On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 03:56:08 +0200 GMT (28/07/02, 08:56 +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: AdG I think it is the duty of every subscriber to read every message AdG that is being potsted on TBUDL. No. It is the right of every subscriber, but not the duty. I read the first and maybe second message of every thread, and if it goes a way that I am not interested in, I don't have an obligation to follow the thread any further. That is my privilege. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I don't have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, No problem. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Skipping parts not interesting
Saturday, July 27, 2002, 8:14:11 PM, you wrote: AdG I think it is the duty of every subscriber to read every message AdG that is being potsted on TBUDL. TF No. It is the right of every subscriber, but not the duty. I read the TF first and maybe second message of every thread, and if it goes a way TF that I am not interested in, I don't have an obligation to follow the TF thread any further. That is my privilege. Thanks, Thomas ... I'm still not sure our leg isn't being pulled here though :-) Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TheBat
Hi Kurgan, On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:54:02 -0500 GMT (Jul 28, 08:39 my local time), you [KLc] wrote KLc Open Nav and go to Options and look for Email. It's all right KLc there in order, and self-explanatory. Things are not that self-explanatory. You still have to change your TB! settings to route the incoming mails through NAV's POPROXY module. See my message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] KLc I highly suggest upgrading to Nav 2002 Snip KLc (You might want to turn off the outbound mail scan, though -- KLc that can get really annoying.) Why does it get annoying? If you mean the dialog box that pop's up on outbound mail scanning, there's an option, in later builds, to turn it off. -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600 ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.6 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [Opera 6.04, Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall] -==- 'The Geek shall inherit the earth.' - Linus 5:5 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Need help with a Klez filter!
On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 21:19, Thomas F. wrote: Hello Jonathan, On 27 Jul 2002 17:21:59 -0500 GMT (28/07/02, 05:21 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: JA And that'd just give the possibly infected user another email address to JA mail the virus too ;) Not necessarily. All those who get the info about the new address will also be told the reason - that someone with the old address on his computer keeps sending the Klez virus and all are asked to scan their computers to see whether it's them. The reason I said that was because somebody recently infected with the Yaha virus hit one of the sales accounts where I work with over 90 emails in a 10 minute period, talking with them on the phone, they refused to believe they were infected (despite evidence to the contrary such as email headers, paths, return addresses, mail logs etc), and decided not to take actions. I subsequently set sendmail to refuse mail from them with a nice message :) JA Either that, or get your sysadmin/isp to install a virus scanner JA on the mail server, and get it to drop the mail on the server :) Probably a good idea, which will work in a company environment but not if you are connected to an ISP. Big time ISPs probably wouldn't touch the idea of trying to install a virus scanner on their services... too many legal issues, time consuming, and just another service that can go wrong for them. Plus there is the huge cost that would result in that kind of service for so many email addresses (most mail scanners change per seat/email account). For illustration, I once sent a very angry email to my own ISP after I had I complained that their public announcements (server down / international link down / etc) were in text/html which I couldn't read with the version of pine on their server and which opens when I telnet into my account on port 23. Which is true, although I think the later versions of pine may be able to pull the plain text out of the HTML body, but still a pain. The unusual thing is they are sending those kinds of things in html, that personally would drive me mad. My current ISP is 'very good' about notifications, they mail out about 12 hours before they do anything, with one line most of the time ;) My last one was: services will be intermittent between 04:30 and 05:30 tomorrow as we are working on our routers That was it ;) They recommended using Outlook. I didn't even notice that Outlook probably doesn't run under unix (does it?), but apart from the fact that it was the pine version they themselves had offered to me (and left me no choice when reading my mail while travelling), I was so surprised that an ISP would recommend the major virus distributor since the invention of the internet, that I really bashed them. I wouldn't expect them to know how to set up server-side virus protection and would always protect myself, even if they said they have done so. Erm... Outlook doesn't run on Linux, let alone a terminal connection, as it is a GUI program. It has only 'recently' been ported to the Mac with Internet Explorer, and Office (aka Office 98). Small time ISPs may look into it if they get enough queries, but big time ISPs probably wouldn't even harbor the thought due to issues mentioned above. Setting up the virus scan on the mail servers I run was a case of about 3 commands due to the nice a simple setup developed by Sophos (a great UK based AV company). -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
