Re: Working with a Collect Account
We are sorry to tell you that because of [spam] we no longer accept any mail from Yahoo! Groups. Curious... I receive mail from four yahoo group mailing lists through myrealbox with no problem. I receive from five lists - less than five messages the last year were spam. One of the lists; [EMAIL PROTECTED] shifted +47.000 (!) messages since June 1st 2001. / St Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test #1, please ignore
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Re: Working with a Collect Account
Dear Roelof, --- Roelof Otten / Dienstag, 30.07.2002, 18:10:24 Working with a Collect Account Actually my current ISP allows for it, but that's a Dutch cable provider, so it's not really a solution for you. ;-) Why? Can you explain? That might be the best solution. IIRC gmx supports it, but that's only secondhand for me, I never tried them. Please no GMX! But you can use the additional accounts for sending only. EC Ah you mean having a real Account set up with all the Login and Send EC parameters. Yes. At least for the moment this would be the fastest solution. I've checked postcastserver last year and it seemed reliable. You have any URL please? -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
Hi, Sudip. On 7/22/02 at 8:18 p.m. you wrote: I used ZA but after it started screwing things in TB!, I removed it. After much searching and many trials, I've come to settle on Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall. Have no problem with it so far. There's also a freeware version available. Do you know which version of ZA you used and can you be a little more specific regarding what problems you had. A technology consultant for law firms is recommending to me that I use ZoneAlarm Pro and she believes that its newest version has probably resolved issues that caused it to interfere with The Bat and as well as with VPNs. She also warned that Tiny/Kerio is harder to decipher unless you are a sophisticated user. She didn't comment about Outpost however. Thanks. -- Avi Avram Sacks Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Working with a Collect Account
Dear Thomas, --- Thomas F. / Mittwoch, 31.07.2002, 04:54:23 Working with a Collect Account L You do not wat to use myrealbox if you have a yahoo account and L are suscribed to the Groups mailing lists: this is an excerpt of L their (myrealbox) FAQ: Wasn't there a thread sometimes about 'myrealbox' having problems of Spaming? 'If' I would join it's not that I want to open the box of Pandora. Another suggestion for Eddie: Try to find an ISP that offers international roaming (for example using gric). @Tom: 'gric'?? That's a total new word for me. Can you explain please? Also what do you mean by Int.roaming? I know Int.roaming in conjunction with phone Companies. -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Moving all Filters
Dear readers from 'TB!udl List', Is there a simple and reliable way in moving all the Filters of one Account to an other in 'one' shot? Thanks and have a nice day :-) -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Moving all Filters
Is there a simple and reliable way in moving all the Filters of one Account to an other in 'one' shot? Copy one rule after the other into Notepad - when finished, Select All in Notepad and Copy, then go back to TB and paste the rules into where you want them. Note 1: You might lose the Rule Names (defaulting to New Rule)! Note 2: If there are other rules at place where you want to copy your new rules, the copied rules will be pasted into positions below the existing rules and you will have to move them up and down in the list. / St Thanks and have a nice day :-) Thank you! Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Version Deux
Hi Batpeople, When's the release of much coveted version 2 planned? Any rumors about the features that have already been incorporated? -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600 ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.6 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [Opera 6.04, Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall] Life - it's nothing like the Brochure! Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
Hi Avram, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 01:59:56 -0500 GMT (Jul 31, 12:44 my local time), you [AS] wrote AS Do you know which version of ZA you used I don't specifically but I upgraded to the latest version (mid May I think) and still had problems. AS can you be a little more specific regarding what problems you had It would automatically rename incoming attachments, changing their file extensions. Oddly enough, this almost always occurred if the sender used Eudora ! Furthermore, the problem was not TB! specific, my copy of Pocomail was also affected. Extremely lousy, slow and lackadaisical tech support of ZA told me to disable Mail Safe settings but that didn't help either. In few cases it was just a matter of manually changing the renamed file extension to its original state. But, on more than few occasions, ZA corrupted the attachments, rendering them useless ! Once, nearly costing my job !! AS A technology consultant for law firms is recommending to me that I AS use ZoneAlarm Pro I would *definitely* not. Apart from my own problem, there are many horror stories floating around this list. AS she believes that its newest version has probably resolved issues AS that caused it to interfere with The Bat and as well as with VPNs Can't comment on that but I ain't going back to ZA. Once bitten, and twice shy ! AS She also warned that Tiny/Kerio is harder to decipher unless you AS are a sophisticated user Yeah lot more user intervention and tuning skill is required for Kerio AS She didn't comment about Outpost however Well, it works perfectly for me. I think BlackICE is also nice, but it was missing few features, namely ad active content blocking, that Outpost has. For full listing of Outpost's feature and to compare it with other firewalls, follow the Agnitum webpage link below: http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/compare.html -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600 ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.6 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [Opera 6.04, Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall] -==- After all is said and done, more is said than done Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
Hi Sudip, Avram, I use Zone Alarm Pro (as fas as I know the latest version) and do _not_ have any problems that I am aware of. My OS is Windows XP Professional and I am using McAfee Total Virus Defence with it (also without _any_ problems). What I do remember (you are also referring to that) is some renaming of attachments (the file extentions). When I disabled the Mail-Safe settings everything worked fine at my system. Might have a look at home this evening to check my settings and what changes if a play something with Mail-Safe. The only thing I know (which is confirmed in a Dutch PC magazine) is that ZA loads very slow and is more then a minute slower than another FW (forgot the name). Regards, Erik Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 11:27:32 AM, you wrote: AS Do you know which version of ZA you used SP I don't specifically but I upgraded to the latest version (mid May I SP think) and still had problems. AS can you be a little more specific regarding what problems you had SP It would automatically rename incoming attachments, changing their SP file extensions. Oddly enough, this almost always occurred if the SP sender used Eudora ! Furthermore, the problem was not TB! specific, my SP copy of Pocomail was also affected. Extremely lousy, slow and SP lackadaisical tech support of ZA told me to disable Mail Safe settings SP but that didn't help either. SP In few cases it was just a matter of manually changing the renamed SP file extension to its original state. But, on more than few occasions, SP ZA corrupted the attachments, rendering them useless ! Once, nearly SP costing my job !! -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Even more simple :-)
Dear St, Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 11:14:56 AM, you wrote: Is there a simple and reliable way in moving all the Filters of one Account to an other in 'one' shot? just copy file named account.srx from one account to another. But! it will eraze all filters in target account :-). After you should rename all source and target folders. -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version :1.62/Beta1, Running at NT 5.0, Build 2195 Service Pack 2. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Look at my X-Mailer header :-)
Dear Greg, Tuesday, July 30, 2002, 4:26:00 PM, you wrote: GS 1) Has anyone tried editing thebat.exe file for the X-Mailer header of GSThe Bat! (v1.62/Beta1) to replace with The_Bat! (v1.62/Beta1) to GSprevent ISP blocking on the original header? See my header. GS 2) If yes, does it pass through ISP filters (i.e. prevents block)? I do not know. I have not this kind of problem. -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version :1.62/Beta1, Running at NT 5.0, Build 2195 Service Pack 2. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Look at my X-Mailer header :-)
On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 5:00:14 AM, Sergey Uvarov wrote to Greg: GS 1) Has anyone tried editing thebat.exe file for the X-Mailer header of GSThe Bat! (v1.62/Beta1) to replace with The_Bat! (v1.62/Beta1) to GSprevent ISP blocking on the original header? SU See my header. But I'd think you'd have to edit again after each version upgrade. True? GS 2) If yes, does it pass through ISP filters (i.e. prevents block)? SU I do not know. I have not this kind of problem. Yes, depending on what the ISP is filtering for. Mine was searching simply for The Bat!, so anything not matching that exact string was allowed to pass (e.g., The!, TB!, The-Bat!, The_Bat!, etc.) Art Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Moving all Filters
Dear St, --- St - Musaic.Net / Mittwoch, 31.07.2002, 11:14:56 Moving all Filters Is there a simple and reliable way in moving all the Filters of one Account to an other in 'one' shot? Copy one rule after the other into Notepad - when finished, Select All in Notepad and Copy, then go back to TB and paste the rules into where you want them. Good Idea! But needs some manual work. --- Sergey Uvarov / Mittwoch, 31.07.2002, 11:58:08 Even more simple :-) just copy file named account.srx from one account to another. But! it will eraze all filters in target account :-). But that sound better. After you should rename all source and target folders. No need ;-) I now did it that way: - Created first new Account - Moved the folders to the new Account - Closed TB! - Copy 'account.srx' from old to now Account - Restart TB! -- here it is. Note I : as I have moved the Folders from the old Account to the new one TB!'s Filter tool adjusted the path. After copying the.srx File TB! recognized he is in an other Account and striped the account name that was first part of the Filter. Note II : even if you're not moving the folders from the old Account to the new one 'and' you want to use the Filters from old account, create equal folder Structure as in the old Account. 'Then' you can copy the '.srx' file to the new Account folder. If your Folder Structure must be adjusted you can now do so and the filter System will adjust the folder path for you. Thanks for your help :-) -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.60k under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Look at my X-Mailer header :-)
Dear Art, Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 12:57:41 PM, you wrote: AM On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 5:00:14 AM, Sergey Uvarov wrote to Greg: GS 1) Has anyone tried editing thebat.exe file for the X-Mailer header of GSThe Bat! (v1.62/Beta1) to replace with The_Bat! (v1.62/Beta1) to GSprevent ISP blocking on the original header? SU See my header. AM But I'd think you'd have to edit again after each version upgrade. True? Yes. And if TB! team will use some exe packer it will be more complicated. If you want, I can send you modified thebat.exe. -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version :1.62/Beta1, Running at NT 5.0, Build 2195 Service Pack 2. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: %ABnnnMemo question
Hello Doyle, On Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 7:43:11 PM you wrote in T1X93HDA9TNHGPN05PJNWR4Z76HED8.3d46d02f@VAIO">mid:T1X93HDA9TNHGPN05PJNWR4Z76HED8.3d46d02f@VAIO (at least in part): 7/30/2002 11:45:46 AM, Jan Rifkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Great statement. Absolutely. I think I have to agree ... No doubt. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) May a Misguided Platypus lay its Eggs in your Jockey Shorts Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Look at my X-Mailer header :-)
Hello Art Thank you for your email dated Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 11:57:41 AM, in which you wrote: AM But I'd think you'd have to edit again after each version upgrade. True? Yes. I followed this method - took a couple of minutes. It's got to better than having yet another program running. -- Regards William Flying with The Bat! 1.61 www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Version Deux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Sudip Pokhrel [SP] wrote: SP When's the release of much coveted version 2 planned? Any rumors SP about the features that have already been incorporated? About 2 years ago, v2's coming was hastily announced. It would appear that the developers have no intention to repeat the same mistake. We haven't yet heard when and I doubt we will until the betas appear. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9R9EQV8nrYCsHF+IRAsooAKCSETnljYaMRogU7cOY417rUW/DtQCg14TK DaIXDrSHDvBxCEQuIpYFShM= =7IAv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Version Deux
Hello Sudip, On Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 11:28:25 AM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): SP When's the release of much coveted version 2 planned? About 3/4th to one year ahead ... As a very rough estimation. At least this is what I've heard rumoring. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) You know you're getting old when the candles cost more than the cake. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Version Deux
Dear Peter, --- Peter Palmreuther / Mittwoch, 31.07.2002, 14:14:27 Version Deux About 3/4th to one year ahead ... As a very rough estimation. At least this is what I've heard rumoring. I can 'confirm' these 'rumors' ;-) -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.60k under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3
Hi Bat Users, Just wanted to let you all know that TB 1.61 runs fine with W2000 SP3. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The problem with doing nothing is that you never know when you're done. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Version Deux
ON Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 2:34:23 PM, you wrote: About 3/4th to one year ahead ... As a very rough estimation. At least this is what I've heard rumoring. EC I can 'confirm' these 'rumors' ;-) Are these official rumors? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Version Deux
Hello Gerard, On Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 2:43:40 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): G Are these official rumors? If they were, and therefore came directly from RITLabs, they would not be 'rumors' :-) At least there's only one possibility unless RIT states an estimation officially: hoping first Beta will be out in time given in my previous mail and don't bugging RIT if not, because this will only defer the release than speed it up. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) The Berlin Wall is the defining achievement of socialism. -- George Will Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Working with a Collect Account
Hallo Eddie, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:55:19 +0200GMT (31-7-02, 8:55 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: Actually my current ISP allows for it, but that's a Dutch cable provider, so it's not really a solution for you. ;-) EC Why? Can you explain? This was about an ISP that allowed for any outgoing e-mail address just if you connected via their network. As you're interested in a movable account in Africa, you shouldn't care about a company providing only fixed connections via an infrastructure in a small part of the Netherlands. But you can use the additional accounts for sending only. EC Ah you mean having a real Account set up with all the Login and Send EC parameters. Yes. EC At least for the moment this would be the fastest solution. That's right, only thing faster is a smarthost that receives everything. I've checked postcastserver last year and it seemed reliable. EC You have any URL please? That's easy. ;-) http://www.postcastserver.com -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Working with a Collect Account
Dear Roelof, --- Roelof Otten / Mittwoch, 31.07.2002, 15:49:33 Working with a Collect Account This was about an ISP [...] Thank's That's right, only thing faster is a smarthost that receives everything. I've now have it this way - work fine! That's easy. ;-) http://www.postcastserver.com Ok gone check it out. BTW - do you still think I should work with the Hamster? -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.60k under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Version Deux
ON Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 3:13:15 PM, you wrote: PP Hello Gerard, PP On Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 2:43:40 PM you wrote in PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): G Are these official rumors? PP If they were, and therefore came directly from RITLabs, they would not be PP 'rumors' :-) Peter, I forgot to add the ;-) after that sentence because I though it was obvious. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Some people are born mediocre, some people achieve mediocrity, and some people have mediocrity thrust upon them. -- Joseph Heller Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Working with a Collect Account
Hallo Eddie, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:53:22 +0200GMT (31-7-02, 15:53 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: EC BTW - do you still think I should work with the Hamster? I'm not aware of me expressing that you should work with Hamster. I've never worked with Hamster, though I once looked at it. AFAIK Hamster collects from several accounts, I thought that wasn't what you wanted. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Working with a Collect Account
Dear Roelof, --- Roelof Otten / Mittwoch, 31.07.2002, 17:00:25 Working with a Collect Account AFAIK Hamster collects from several accounts, I thought that wasn't what you wanted. You're right, but according to the talk we have here I'm reconsidering. Maybe it is still a good solution! -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.60k under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Corrupted MESSAGES file
Hello fellow Batters, I am experiencing a problem with a message folder file which contains over 2GB of mails (with attachments) which has become corrupted somehow. I did the 'normal' thing when this happens which may have been a serious mistake. I was able to see the messages, but the filter for the folder could not place any new messages in it. I deleted the IDX file for the folder and tried to re-index the file. No dice! I also can not see any of the messages previously listed in this folder anymore. :-( I then tried to create another folder and COPY the file to that folder. NO DICE!! It gives me a file error (file fails CRC). Any suggestions on how I can possibly recover the over 1.5GB of graphics attachments that I have not had time to extract and save? This is over FOUR MONTHS (2023 messages) of posts to a mailing list. I am running WIN2K SP2, and FAT32 file system, not NTFS, as I upgraded from WIN98SE. I have had absolutely no errors like this since the upgrade. Running TB 1.60h personal. Is there anything like a utility to repair a corrupted MESSAGES file? I have seen such utilities for other similar apps. Folder Refresh and Account Refresh Folders functions have no effect. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike - Hanging out in Hell, Grand Cayman Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
FixSigs RegExp question/problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi,
I'm playing with the Fixing Signatures regexp on the FAQ site, and I
tried to add another line so that it strips out Outlook added reply
formatting, as a lot of my contacts use it. Here is what it looks
like:
%quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP %-
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|%-
_{40,}\s*\n|%-
\n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
- \s*Orig.*?|%-
- -+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|%-
\n+Get your FREE download|%-
\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=4'
You can see the \s*Orig.*? section has been added. In the
RegExpTester listed on the site, this matches the Outlook reply
headers:
- - Original Message -
- Original Message
- Original Message
And other permutations of that too. Why is it not working when listed
in this format?
- --
Jonathan Angliss
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt
iQA/AwUBPUgMxCuD6BT4/R9zEQKwNgCeP5oIqEQstF8zXliQ8jcvBJngzTsAoMIo
WBarKT8GsJQb1czpK759Ad8u
=DQUY
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Re: FixSigs RegExp question/problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, Jonathan Angliss wrote...
%quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP %-
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|%-
_{40,}\s*\n|%-
\n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
- \s*Orig.*?|%-
- -+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|%-
\n+Get your FREE download|%-
\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=4'
Erm... due to PGP fixing those lines, they came out incorrect, remove
the - from the lines that have them, and there is my normal regexp.
- - Original Message -
- Original Message
- Original Message
Same here :P
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([EMAIL PROTECTED])
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt
iQA/AwUBPUgNuiuD6BT4/R9zEQIRCwCguFlB0foLYvQC0z+oHYRjzf/JLEwAn10Z
3Z1s+r2llejVS9d5KGj02T1D
=B8Wl
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Re: FixSigs RegExp question/problem
Hello Jonathan,
31. julij 2002, 18:13:51, you wrote:
JA And other permutations of that too. Why is it not working when listed
JA in this format?
This seems to work for me:
%QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)%-
((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
(--+\s+.*roups.*~--\\n.*\n--+~-\\n\n)?%-
(.*?)(^(- -*?\s*?--\s*\n|%-
(^\n*)_{40,}\s*\n|%-
-{40,}\s*\n|%-
\n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
--+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|%-
\n\nYour use of|%-
\n+Get your FREE download|%-
\nNote that the email address of the sender has been changed|%-
\n---\nOutgoing mail is certified Virus Free.|%-
\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=5'
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Re: FixSigs RegExp question/problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, Jernej Simoni wrote... This seems to work for me: [snip] Doesn't seem to match the - Original Message - Outlook uses, at least not here anyway, I just copied and pasted it. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPUgkriuD6BT4/R9zEQIeUACdHrkIJDJr9A/6xv+K4GtLy3LXkOoAnApp Z8WmoRH+az5at9t8w/3EaoQ4 =/AR8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: FixSigs RegExp question/problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, Jernej Simoni wrote... JA Doesn't seem to match the - Original Message - Outlook uses, JA at least not here anyway, I just copied and pasted it. Hmm... That's strange. It works in some cases, but not every time... Which was why, in mine I had the following: \s*Orig.* Which should match any repeated number of - and/or a space... or so matches the RegExp tester. This would mean it could match: Original -Original Original - Original etc etc - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPUgqayuD6BT4/R9zEQIBKgCghoMUJjNhPVQTumiL8LbeO0nlPzEAn3ok J5gDYXQGHRumBBKnWmUGuRSU =RXfg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
Hello Erik, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:51:11 +0200 (MEST) GMT (31/07/02, 16:51 +0700 GMT), Erik Janssen wrote: EJ What I do remember (you are also referring to that) is some renaming EJ of attachments (the file extentions). When I disabled the Mail-Safe EJ settings everything worked fine at my system. Might have a look at EJ home this evening to check my settings and what changes if a play EJ something with Mail-Safe. Pardon me for being ignorant, but was does this Mail-Safe function in ZA do? What I can figure from the list, it changes attachment names, so that they cannot be opened any more. May make sense for OE/OL users, but then, how do *they* open attachments at all? Is it the job of this firewall to make attachments useless? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The save icon on Microsoft Word shows a floppy disk, with the shutter on backwards. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test #1, please ignore
Hello David, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:29:25 +0100 GMT (31/07/02, 13:29 +0700 GMT), David Elliott wrote: DE User Bernd Gauweiler failed ignore test. ROTFLOL! You really *had* me laughing out loud on this one. But be fair, he didn't know that Syafril is the list admin and the test related to a list improvement. Users' test messages are indeed discouraged on this list. Nevertheless, I think this thread has become dangerous to the horse population. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bruno Labbadia (Karlsruher SC): Das wird alles von den Medien hochsterilisiert. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, Thomas F. wrote... Pardon me for being ignorant, but was does this Mail-Safe function in ZA do? What I can figure from the list, it changes attachment names, so that they cannot be opened any more. May make sense for OE/OL users, but then, how do *they* open attachments at all? MailSafe is a 'feature' that allows you to alter the extension of file names so that a simple double click from the attachment cannot launch it. This means you have to think before you open the file, as you had to save it to disk, then rename the attachment's extension, and then execute it, by which time, I guess the developers have assumed, if you are willing to go to those lengths, then you must trust the file, if not, then you were given ample messing about to realize that it may not be a good idea. Is it the job of this firewall to make attachments useless? Not useless as such, just unclickable from the attachments menu in most email clients. Save to disk, then rename, and the attachment is fine again, and can behave exactly as originally designed. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPUgx0SuD6BT4/R9zEQL8LACfftyyPvoURaG3LyZZjInicQKV4+AAoI/p ZMkqZJoDZl6tEBxsWbFOjtvH =MJtS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Corrupted MESSAGES file
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, Hexdump wrote... Not sure, Depending on how TB stores the messages in the message base you might be able to recover them by running the message base through a program like uudecode or a similar program. Not certain that would work, but it might be worth a try. Unless the original offender is SecureBat, the files are stored as plain text with a set of characters at the end of each email to act as a mail separator. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPUg4dyuD6BT4/R9zEQJrhACgnSem5sazSN7KmP5/sPk8HfWPExAAnjhB NA/GJ9QUPNgeCRh5aPqkKsgO =Y66Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: BatPost
Hello Kurgan, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:53:05 -0500 GMT (31/07/02, 12:53 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KLc Must have been a glitch; I just looked and the link is still KLc working. :) (Either that or the search engines simply hadn't KLc refreshed yet.) The search engine doesn't list it; but I just became a member by sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it worked. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. We are the people our parents warned us about. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: BatPost
Hello Thomas, On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 02:37:41 +0700 GMT (01/08/02, 02:37 +0700 GMT), Thomas F. wrote: TF The search engine doesn't list it; but I just became a member by TF sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it worked. :-) Nonsense. I sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and am now a member. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. No one is listening until you make a mistake. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Backup to Existing Archive
Hello TBUDL, Using TOOLS BACKUP Create an update to existing archive, and entering an existing *.tbk filename, TB! asks if I want to replace the existing file. I want to append rather than replace. Am I missing something? I couldn't find anything in Help, FAQ, or archives. TIA -- Regards, Paddy Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
Hello Thomas, TF Pardon me for being ignorant, but was does this Mail-Safe function in TF ZA do? What I can figure from the list, it changes attachment names, TF so that they cannot be opened any more. May make sense for OE/OL TF users, but then, how do *they* open attachments at all? TF Is it the job of this firewall to make attachments useless? I might hope not! It just seems not to work well for everybody who uses it or not everybody uses it correct. According to the help-file of ZA it should do the following: (sorry for the gigantic message!) /-[ MailSafe Setting ]- | Use the radio buttons to turn MailSafe on or off. | | If On is selected, the attachment types configured in the | Attachments panel will be quarantined. | If Off is selected, no attachments will be quarantined \- /-[ E-mail protection ]- | ZoneAlarm Pro's MailSafe feature protects you from new viruses, | worms, and other malware distributed in e-mail attachments. It also | protects you from any old, known threats. | | The problem with attachments | Attaching files to e-mail messages is a convenient way of exchanging | information. | | However, it also provides hackers with an easy way of spreading | viruses, worms, Trojan horse programs, and other malware. For | example, the infamous Love Bug worm was distributed as a Visual | Basic Script (.VBS) file | | Fortunately, only certain types of attachments can contain | potentially dangerous code. These attachments types can be | identified by their filename extensions. \- /-[ About filename extensions ]- | Filename extensions are the characters that appear after the dot | in a file name. They identify the file type so that the appropriate | program or system component can open it. Here are some examples: | .EXE (an executable file) | .JS (a javascript file) | .BAT (a batch process file) | | Tip It's a good idea never to open an e-mail attachment unless you | know the person it came from, and have confirmed (by phone or | separate e-mail message) that that person actually sent it to you. | Remember hackers can alter an e-mail message to look like it came | from a friend! \- /-[ The MailSafe quarantine ]- | ZoneAlarm Pro's MailSafe protects you by 'quarantining' e-mail | attachments that may contain malicious code. | When an e-mail with an attachment arrives... | MailSafe examines the attachment's filename extension. | | If that extension (in the example at right, .BAT) is in MailSafe's | quarantine list, ZoneAlarm Pro changes the filename extension to | .zl* (where * is a number or letter.) | | Changing the filename extension 'quarantines' the attachment by | keeping it from running automatically. | | When you open the e-mail containing the attachment... | ZoneAlarm Pro displays a MailSafe alert to let you know it has | quarantined the attachment. Click OK to close the alert box. | | When you try to open the attachment... | ZoneAlarm Pro warns you of the potential risk in opening the | attachment. If you're sure the file is harmless and you want to open | it, click the Run button. You can also save the file for later. | | Tip Users who know how to read code can click Inspect with Notepad | to examine the code of attachment itself. \- Regards, Erik -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
When using ZA, disabling Mail-Safe is essential to avoid the renaming of executable attachments. I have never had a problem renaming them so I could run an AV scan and then open them. Elaine Hello Erik On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, you wrote What I do remember (you are also referring to that) is some renaming of attachments (the file extentions). When I disabled the Mail-Safe settings everything worked fine at my system. snip Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
It is a optional feature of ZA and does not have to be used. It changes the file extension to an easily-identified ZA file extension and the attachment can be renamed and opened. Simply unchecking the option eliminates the feature. Elaine Hello Thomas On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, you wrote Pardon me for being ignorant, but was does this Mail-Safe function in ZA do? What I can figure from the list, it changes attachment names, so that they cannot be opened any more. May make sense for OE/OL users, but then, how do *they* open attachments at all? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3
Hi Gerard, On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 1:42:43 PM, you [G] wrote: G Hi Bat Users, G Just wanted to let you all know that TB 1.61 runs fine with W2000 SP3. Huh? I thought SP2 was the newest?! :S -- Ben Kennish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
Hi, Elaine. on 07/31/2002 at 04:24 PM you wrote: When using ZA, disabling Mail-Safe is essential to avoid the renaming of executable attachments. I have never had a problem renaming them so I could run an AV scan and then open them. If I understand you correctly, with ZA one must disable a feature that is supposed to automatically detect any and all attachments to an e-mail, whether apparent or not, in order for ZA to work for Bat users? Isn't that a pain? What about other firewalls? What do they do with attachments? Isn't disabling the feature defeating the purpose of the firewall? -- Avi Avram Sacks Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
Because I am using the free current version of ZA, it only offers mail protection against VBS attachments and it has never interfered with TheBat. When I was using Outlook Express, I used the paid version of ZA-Pro and it offered protection against 45 additional mail attachments (.exe, .com, .scr, etc.). I thought it was a mighty nice safeguard with OE smile. When using TheBat I have not felt the need to purchase the additional protection, although I do allow it to protect against the VBS. I am not sure I necessarily see it as an impediment to using this particular firewall, not even sure the VBS protection is necessary with TB, but since it doesn't interfere, I let it run. Elaine Hello Avram On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, you wrote If I understand you correctly, with ZA one must disable a feature that is supposed to automatically detect any and all attachments to an e-mail, whether apparent or not, in order for ZA to work for Bat users? Isn't that a pain? What about other firewalls? What do they do with attachments? Isn't disabling the feature defeating the purpose of the firewall? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3
ON Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 11:38:45 PM, you wrote: BK Huh? I thought SP2 was the newest?! :S Hi Ben, Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 is out, available now to the company's major customers, and to everybody else from Thursday. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -- Robert Oppenheimer Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3
Hello Ben, 31. julij 2002, 23:38:45, you wrote: BK Huh? I thought SP2 was the newest?! :S Sp3 was just published :) -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 3] An exception TESTS a rule; it NEVER PROVES it. -- Berkeley's Tenth Law Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Working with a Collect Account
Hallo Eddie, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:13:33 +0200GMT (31-7-02, 17:13 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: AFAIK Hamster collects from several accounts, I thought that wasn't what you wanted. EC You're right, but according to the talk we have here I'm EC reconsidering. Maybe it is still a good solution! In that case I'd say that you'd best opt for a mailserver that can deliver directly at the recipient's ISP, go for something like Mercury. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3
Hello Jernej, Thursday, August 1, 2002, 12:16:08 AM, you wrote: JS Hello Ben, JS 31. julij 2002, 23:38:45, you wrote: BK Huh? I thought SP2 was the newest?! :S JS Sp3 was just published :) Where can I download it? -- Best regards, Pietromailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3
Hello Gerard, 1. avgust 2002, 0:08:57, you wrote: G Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 is out, available now to the company's major G customers, and to everybody else from Thursday. There was a download link this morning on a local computing site :) -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 3] Nothing looks as good close up as it does from far away. -- Law of Observation Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
DEAD HORSE (was test #1, please ignore)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @31 July 2002, 01:04 +0700 (19:04 UK time) Thomas F. [TF] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to David Elliott on TBUDL: DE User Bernd Gauweiler failed ignore test. TF ROTFLOL! TF Nevertheless, I think this thread has become dangerous to the horse TF population. ;-) moderator *** KER-BLAMM *** /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9SG/2OeQkq5KdzaARAkoUAKDvIBYhZ9RTQPuEL60NjnjCaUjpKACfXmcV MIGKzRFnRGS25TE6tBa63zo= =yVaW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Backup to Existing Archive
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paddy, @31 July 2002, 13:05 -0700 (21:05 UK time) Paddy L [PL] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: PL Using TOOLS BACKUP Create an update to existing archive, and PL entering an existing *.tbk filename, TB! asks if I want to replace the PL existing file. I want to append rather than replace. Am I missing PL something? Yes. This function creates a *supplemental* backup to an existing archive. Restore the original backup first then the update to perform a full restore. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9SHEjOeQkq5KdzaARAqP5AJ0YPSCyHQic3oL82Cr4gW+f0ogpUgCeMdEv WxxSTe1xAYNrJQRfz/ouw/E= =cIrG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
OCCLIST when using AB nickname
I just sent out an email with one person in the To: field and a list of people in the cc: field. The list comprised all the people in one AB group. In the contact field, I entered the nickname of the group, which then appeared, in addition to the term list, as in nicknamelist. One of the cc: recipients changed addresses, so I forwarded the message to her. My forwarding template did not include the cc: recipients, so I added a line reading %OCCLIST. What appeared in that field on the forwarded email was nicknamelist, not the list of cc: recipients. It's clear why that is happening, but it shouldn't work like that. On the original message, the actual cc: recipients would appear in the headers for each recipient. I wanted this recipient to also see that list. However, the only way to make that happen seems to be to avoid using nicknames all the time as a precaution, instead going into the AB and clicking to include all of the group members in the appropriate field. Comments? -- JN Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Mail Server
If I am reading correctly, it is possible to use TB! as a mailserver? If I decide to host my own mailserver instead of my ISP's...I can use TB!? -- Pete 7:21:28 PM Ask about eScan Content-Security and Anti-Virus Software. We will meet ALL of your anti-virus needs. www.milneweb.com Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
Hi Avram, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:50:28 -0500 GMT (Aug 01, 03:35 my local time), you [AS] wrote AS Isn't disabling the feature defeating the purpose of the firewall? If you have an AV package with up to date definition and its set up to scan incoming mail, this feature is absolutely redundant. -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600 ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.6 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [Opera 6.04, Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall] -==- Vegetarian: Native American definiton for lousy hunter Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Corrupted MESSAGES file
Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 1:15:44 PM, you wrote: S Any suggestions on how I can possibly recover the over 1.5GB of S graphics attachments that I have not had time to extract and S save? This is over FOUR MONTHS (2023 messages) of posts to a S mailing list. I am running WIN2K SP2, and FAT32 file system, not S NTFS, as I upgraded from WIN98SE. I have had absolutely no S errors like this since the upgrade. S Running TB 1.60h personal. Is there anything like a utility to S repair a corrupted MESSAGES file? Have you looked here? Most of the files don't seem documented though. http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/ Also, have you tried Mailbag Assistant? http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.html S I have seen such utilities for S other similar apps. Have you? Which apps, just curious? S Folder Refresh and Account Refresh Folders S functions have no effect. I'm not even sure what Refresh does. Anyone? -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
suddenly TB! is not opening links
TB! has suddenly stopped opening links. I can double click or right click and pick open url, but nothing happens. This is happening in this version and also in abacusbat, so whatever it is, it isn't a beta issue. Any suggestions?? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Corrupted MESSAGES file
Try compressing the offending folder (after making a backup copy, of course) to see if that helps. If you *do* manage to recover the emails, you might consider reconfiguring your mail accounts to save attachments in a separate folder, so at least they're not trashed if the mail archive goes grobbling off. The only times I've had a corrupted mail folder are when I had attachments stored inline, or had changed storage midstream and older messages were still stored inline. The thought of a 2GB mail archive scares the living daylights out of me. Almost as much as the thought of going four months without making a backup... -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 (and soon to be downloading SP3 and living on the edge...) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3
JS Sp3 was just published :) PM Where can I download it? http://download.microsoft.com/download/win2000platform/SP/SP3/NT5/EN-US/w2ksp3.exe HTH, Dan Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Milne [PM] wrote: PM If I am reading correctly, it is possible to use TB! as a PM mailserver? If I decide to host my own mailserver instead of my PM ISP's...I can use TB!? It isn't a full-blown dedicated mailserver since it will not provide features that a typical mailserver will. It however, can be made to take on the role of a mail server in the setting where you have machines on an LAN with no access to the internet and you wish to get mail to the TB! clients on them. You could run a mailserver on the server connected to the internet, or you could run a copy of TB! in dial-out server mode. In this state, you can download mail to accounts on the server installation and then the clients can fetch mail from the server installation accounts. TB! on the server will also act as an SMTP relay server (it's not an SMTP server that will do direct mail deliveries). It's fairly limited in scope but may very well serve the needs of many on a network. The help files contain documentation on this. In the TB! menus, go to Options/Network and Administration, then hit the help button on the configuration panel. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9SLsPV8nrYCsHF+IRAus+AKDGGwigQorr1otFssoBDdGO2VJqjwCdEjr2 Bg2XBFsd2TWgfGteaAaHgRo= =QHWs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: suddenly TB! is not opening links
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dwight A Corrin [DAC] wrote: DAC TB! has suddenly stopped opening links. I can double click or DAC right click and pick open url, but nothing happens. This is DAC happening in this version and also in abacusbat, so whatever it DAC is, it isn't a beta issue. Any suggestions?? TB! merely sends requests to the default browser. If you don't have a browser properly setup as the default, then this function will not work. Does clicking on URL's other external applications work in your installation of Windows? I'd reinstall the browser or manually check the file associations via the file types configuration panel in the system folder options. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9SLv/V8nrYCsHF+IRAmSPAJ0asj0sPFtgTHqpghbwP3be0Ie/4gCfWbEf +FBFE2Hw/MiecWPeTFFLcNQ= =JTNh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail Server
Replying to your message of Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 10:37:34 PM: ACM It isn't a full-blown dedicated mailserver Allie, I'll tell you what I have and what I need. I have 4 machines networked here at home. I currently am hosting my own website and want to host my own mail server to pull mail from the internet instead of using my ISP's mail server. I would also send mail to the other machines on the network here. Mind you, this is not a high volume setup. Would I have to have a mail server program installed to do what I want instead of using TB!? Simple is best!! Thanks, -- Pete www.milneweb.com Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:43:39 PM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.61 Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Server
Hello Pete, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:22:16 -0600 GMT (01/08/02, 08:22 +0700 GMT), Pete Milne wrote: PM If I am reading correctly, it is possible to use TB! as a mailserver? If PM I decide to host my own mailserver instead of my ISP's...I can use TB!? No, TB is only an email client, not an email server. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Vacation Special: have your home exterminated. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
Hello Erik, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:54:59 +0200 (MEST) GMT (01/08/02, 03:54 +0700 GMT), Erik Janssen wrote: TF Is it the job of this firewall to make attachments useless? EJ According to the help-file of ZA it should do the following: EJ (sorry for the gigantic message!) We might have to move this to TBOT soon. But thanks for the info. EJ /-[ MailSafe Setting ]- EJ | Use the radio buttons to turn MailSafe on or off. EJ | EJ | If On is selected, the attachment types configured in the EJ | Attachments panel will be quarantined. From what I figure, ZA does not quarantine anything. It just changes the file extensions. EJ /-[ E-mail protection ]- EJ | ZoneAlarm Pro's MailSafe feature protects you from new viruses, EJ | worms, and other malware distributed in e-mail attachments. It also EJ | protects you from any old, known threats. Right. By changing the extensions. I know another way: delete all mails automatically. It is the best protection against viruses. EJ | The problem with attachments EJ | Attaching files to e-mail messages is a convenient way of exchanging EJ | information. EJ | EJ | However, it also provides hackers with an easy way of spreading EJ | viruses, worms, Trojan horse programs, and other malware. Provided the recipient uses OE/OL, of course. EJ | Tip It's a good idea never to open an e-mail attachment unless you EJ | know the person it came from, and have confirmed (by phone or EJ | separate e-mail message) that that person actually sent it to you. EJ | Remember hackers can alter an e-mail message to look like it came EJ | from a friend! EJ \- Correct. Then why does OE/OL offers this iFrame thingy that allows Klez to open automatically? And again, since when is it the job of a firewall to protect against viruses? EJ /-[ The MailSafe quarantine ]- EJ | ZoneAlarm Pro's MailSafe protects you by 'quarantining' e-mail EJ | attachments that may contain malicious code. EJ | When an e-mail with an attachment arrives... EJ | MailSafe examines the attachment's filename extension. And this is what annoys me greatly. I doesn't examine the mail. It has no database of virus patterns or signatures. It just blondly changes file extensions of certain files. What a big load of unprofessionality. EJ | Tip Users who know how to read code can click Inspect with Notepad EJ | to examine the code of attachment itself. Right. I can read the code of .exe files and easily spot some 20,000 virus signatures. (Has ZoneLabs been bought by Microsoft, or why do they write such a nonsense?) f'up2tbot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: OCCLIST when using AB nickname
Hello Joseph, It was foretold that on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 19:01 GMT -0500, Joseph N. [JN] would type: JN It's clear why that is happening, but it shouldn't work like that. On JN the original message, the actual cc: recipients would appear in the JN headers for each recipient. I wanted this recipient to also see that JN list. However, the only way to make that happen seems to be to avoid JN using nicknames all the time as a precaution, instead going into the JN AB and clicking to include all of the group members in the appropriate JN field. Yup, it's a bit of an annoying feature, though it can prove useful if you send the same message to the same list several times. One way of avoiding the problem is to BCC yourself, then keep the message that comes through your mail server. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal I was the next door kid's imaginary friend. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3
Hello Emaillists, Thursday, August 1, 2002, 5:35:08 AM, you wrote: JS Sp3 was just published :) PM Where can I download it? E http://download.microsoft.com/download/win2000platform/SP/SP3/NT5/EN-US/w2ksp3.exe Is there a link for the italian version? -- Best regards, Pietromailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Milne [PM] wrote: PM I'll tell you what I have and what I need. I have 4 machines PM networked here at home. I currently am hosting my own website and PM want to host my own mail server to pull mail from the internet PM instead of using my ISP's mail server. If you wish for mail to be delivered directly to you without the use of a remote POP account/s, then TB! running in server mode isn't adequate. You'll need a specialist mail server. TB! will only fetch mail from remote POP accounts and then distribute them to the clients on the network. You have to use remote POP accounts and either a local or remote SMTP server to send messages. PM I would also send mail to the other machines on the network here. TB! in server mode should be adequate here. If you are managing mail for your domain and wish to distribute mail to accounts for each domain address, then TB! as a server will not be adequate. It's role is a very simple one. It will download mail from remote POP accounts and send mail for clients that are unable to do so because they have no internet connection. PM Mind you, this is not a high volume setup. Volume isn't really the issue as such since you could be receiving a large volume of mail and yet your mailserving needs are simple enough for TB! to comfortably act as the mail server on your network. In the same way, you could have a low volume setup and yet need a specialist mail server because of the features you need that TB! in server mode will not deliver. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9SMQZV8nrYCsHF+IRAqi0AKDLPhEGYiDOelOzS449M585bzXS4wCfbzcS rRyUFMtyjNUwDgU/UMQ7UbE= =nJvN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[3]: Mail Server
Hello Pete, PM Would I have to have a mail server program installed to do what I want PM instead of using TB!? You could use TB and BatPost together to achieve your server. I'm using BatPost right now to send this message, and it's not even installed on my machine. I've got it installed on a friend's server 300 miles away (I use it to get around a port 25 block --I just set it for port 26!). :) The biggest problem I've had is simply figuring out how to keep it up and running. If my friend's server gets rebooted, I have to manually log on to the system (remotely) and fire up BP (and then start it). I'd dearly love to figure out how to make it do everything automatically, but haven't found a way yet. Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail Server
Replying to your message of Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 11:16:09 PM: Allie, Thank you for the clarification on the mail server. -- Pete www.milneweb.com Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:23:50 PM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.61 Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3
Hello Pietro Thank you for your email dated Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 11:25:17 PM, in which you wrote: PM Where can I download it? Hope you've got broadband - it's c.125mb! -- Regards William Flying with The Bat! 1.61 www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas F. [TF] wrote: TF We might have to move this to TBOT soon. But thanks for the info. . TF (Has ZoneLabs been bought by Microsoft, or why do they write such a TF nonsense?) moderator Your message here is clearly moving the discussion towards ZA design and philosophy specifically. I concur that this should be taken off-list and therefore make the request official. /moderator - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9SMf1V8nrYCsHF+IRAjxRAJ9Pdmrlt491dIJUKudlCJyAnMmsbgCgnnoe v2eltICUZPZcxyMdqxQGSjQ= =Akiq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Corrupted MESSAGES file
Hello Jonathan, Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 3:20:18 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, Hexdump wrote... Not sure, Depending on how TB stores the messages in the message base you might be able to recover them by running the message base through a program like uudecode or a similar program. Not certain that would work, but it might be worth a try. Unless the original offender is SecureBat, the files are stored as plain text with a set of characters at the end of each email to act as a mail separator. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ok, I just tried this on my own message base. I used Fastcode32 (http://www.angelfire.com/ca/kent/frame.html) and it worked. (Of course my message base isn't 2GB in size though...) Another neat little trick is to change the extension of the message.tbb file to .uue. Now you can open it using WinZip. (I'd recommend trying this method first as it is incredibly simple if it works.) Assuming that most of the message base is still intact and as (the other) Jonathan pointed out, that he wasn't using SecureBat the OP should be able to get at least some of his files out. -- Best regards, Jonathan Chattin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Kurgan [K] wrote: K You could use TB and BatPost together to achieve your server. I'm K using BatPost right now to send this message, and it's not even K installed on my machine. I've got it installed on a friend's server K 300 miles away (I use it to get around a port 25 block --I just set K it for port 26!). :) The biggest problem I've had is simply K figuring out how to keep it up and running. If my friend's server K gets rebooted, I have to manually log on to the system (remotely) K and fire up BP (and then start it). I'd dearly love to figure out K how to make it do everything automatically, but haven't found a way K yet. Why not create an shortcut in the programs/startup menu? Is there no CLI parameter to 'start' it up? If not, you could install PowerPro on your friends server and then use a macro that is executed on the machines startup. It would fire up the batpost and then 'start' it. :) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9SMl6V8nrYCsHF+IRAiEIAJ9F4QQMjtMxJdxYQO4pKctYhjPamQCg+IIz koVuW7KCodtHHrBGU77g15w= =W8z7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Corrupted MESSAGES file
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 00:38, Hexdump wrote: Another neat little trick is to change the extension of the message.tbb file to .uue. Now you can open it using WinZip. (I'd recommend trying this method first as it is incredibly simple if it works.) Never heard of doing that before, I'm assuming changing the extension means that Winzip opens it, and each message acts as a separate file in the 'acrhive'? Assuming that most of the message base is still intact and as (the other) Jonathan pointed out, that he wasn't using SecureBat the OP should be able to get at least some of his files out. Took me 3 reads of this to realise that you meant me, and that your name was also Jonathan, spelled the same way too ;) SecureBat encrypts the message base, so using the above method would simply just not work. But I may give the .uue method a play tomorrow. Thanks for the tip ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3
Hello William, Thursday, August 1, 2002, 7:27:39 AM, you wrote: WM Hello Pietro WM Thank you for your email dated Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 11:25:17 PM, in which you wrote: PM Where can I download it? WM Hope you've got broadband - it's c.125mb! I have isdn. -- Best regards, Pietromailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail Server
Hello Allie, ACM Why not create an shortcut in the programs/startup menu? Is there no ACM CLI parameter to 'start' it up? If not, you could install PowerPro on ACM your friends server and then use a macro that is executed on the ACM machines startup. It would fire up the batpost and then 'start' it. :) I must admit my ignorance for Windows NT. I'm learning as I go, but so far there appears to be no way to add the program as a service so it starts with the system. The server is set up so there are 'desktops' for various users, with each of us remoting in via a Terminal Services Client. Some programs install themselves as services, such as Argo's mail server, but neither I nor my friend can find a way to do it manually. Even if we could find an area to autorun the program (each desktop has it's own Startup folder that executes with the individual's log-in) when the system starts, the program also needs to be started after it's already been activated. In other words, when you run it, it's sits idle until told to begin monitoring for mail. I do find it ironic, in an almost humorous way, that the traditional hard part was overcome easily (setup config), and the program functions well, but the normally easy thing (getting the darned thing to start by itself) is the problem area. I'll laugh later... :) One other interesting point. I installed another mail server (Argo, as mentioned) as the primary, and am using BatPost as my private smtp engine to get around a port 25 block, so having BP start with my desktop (so no one else could see it) would be fine with me. However, we also haven't found a way to get a desktop to autostart with the system. They only seem to be able to start when someone logs in. And even *then* I'm still facing the program's secondary activation, which it apparently needs to have done manually. I could, of course, locate another server program, but I really do like several factors of BP. First, it's by Ritlabs, secondly it's really small, but fully-functional, and finally, I can turn off pop scanning and use it strictly as an smtp engine. Ideal for my purposes. I'm gonna tough this one out if it kills me! :) Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Corrupted MESSAGES file
Hello Jonathan, Thursday, August 1, 2002, 1:48:00 AM, you wrote: On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 00:38, Hexdump wrote: Another neat little trick is to change the extension of the message.tbb file to .uue. Now you can open it using WinZip. (I'd recommend trying this method first as it is incredibly simple if it works.) Never heard of doing that before, I'm assuming changing the extension means that Winzip opens it, and each message acts as a separate file in the 'acrhive'? Yes, changing the extension to uue makes Winzip think it is one big archive. Winzip lists each e-mail as a text file (0001.txt, 0002.txt, etc.) and each attachment is also listed as a separate file. Just select the file you want and extract it. Assuming that most of the message base is still intact and as (the other) Jonathan pointed out, that he wasn't using SecureBat the OP should be able to get at least some of his files out. Took me 3 reads of this to realise that you meant me, and that your name was also Jonathan, spelled the same way too ;) SecureBat encrypts the message base, so using the above method would simply just not work. But I may give the .uue method a play tomorrow. Thanks for the tip ;) You're most welcome. It's something I stumbled over a long time ago, and occasionally comes in handy. (Sorry for the lousy grammar, BTW.) -- Best regards, Jonathan Chattin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Server
Hello Kurgan, Thursday, August 1, 2002, 2:01:22 AM, you wrote: I must admit my ignorance for Windows NT. I'm learning as I go, but so far there appears to be no way to add the program as a service so it starts with the system. The server is set up so there are 'desktops' for various users, with each of us remoting in via a Terminal Services Client. Some programs install themselves as services, such as Argo's mail server, but neither I nor my friend can find a way to do it manually. This can be done using INSTSRV.EXE and SRVANY.EXE, which if I remember correctly were part of the NT resource kit. (Which you have to pay Microsoft to get. However, if you do a web search on those file names they pop up all over the place.) -- Best regards, Jonathan Chattin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
