Trouble managing threads
Hello everyone, Again I come asking for help -- this time with thread management. I have messages grouped by thread/references standard. I'm not sure how to go about deleting an entire thread -- if the thread is closed and I hit delete on the first message, I am moved to the second message in the thread, or at least that's what it seems is going on. Is there an easy, one-key stroke way to delete a thread, or the rest of a thread? Another problem I'm having has to do with wanting to delete all messages in a folder. I have a few mailing lists which I'm way behind on. In an effort to get caught up, my thought is to just delete all messages and start from scratch. I went to that folder, hit ctrl-a to select all, then hit delete and nothing happened. I then tried hitting shft/end thinking that this would select the entire message list. Hitting delete there didn't seem to do anything either. Lastly, and this is a bit off-topic, I've been in contact with the developers of my screen reading software and they gave me some information on ways the Bat could be made more accessible to blind folks. I'd like to pass this info along, but am not sure where to send it. If anyone has any technical contact at RITlabs who might find this information useful, I'd be glad to send it along. Again, thanks for all help. -- Best regards, Steve mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble managing threads
Hello Steve, To delete a complete thread: shift + ctrl + del To delete acomplete folder: ctrl + del -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble managing threads
The answers to your first two questions are in the right click context menus. thread/references standard. I'm not sure how to go about deleting an entire thread -- if the thread is If you right click on a thread, go to the Thread submenu, there is a Delete Thread option. The hotkey for this is Shift+Ctrl+Del. Another problem I'm having has to do with wanting to delete all messages in a folder. I have a few mailing Similarly, you can right click on the folder and select mark all messages read. The hotkey for this is Ctrl+M. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Encrypt to self?
Using TB 1.62r and GnuPG 1.22 Windows 2000 SP2. Is there a way to encrypt to myself from within the editor in TB when I select the Privacy|OpnePGP|Sing$Encrypt...? Do I have to add myself to the recipient list in order to accomplish that? Is there another way? Thanks and best regards Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encrypt to self?
18-Jul-2003 03:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to encrypt to myself from within the editor in TB when I select the Privacy|OpnePGP|Sing$Encrypt...? Thats in Tools / OpenPGP / OpenPGP preferences, first tab, first checkbox always encrypt to default key (I just recently stumbled over the same problem;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The discovery of a new dish does more for human happiness than the discovery of a new star. -- Anthelme Brillat-Savarin Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble managing threads
Hello Steve, On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:09:05 -0400 GMT (18/07/03, 04:09 +0700 GMT), Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: Lastly, and this is a bit off-topic, I don't think so. I've been in contact with the developers of my screen reading software and they gave me some information on ways the Bat could be made more accessible to blind folks. I'd like to pass this info along, but am not sure where to send it. I would think the first step is here, and if you find seconders, I would suggest the wishlist. If anyone has any technical contact at RITlabs who might find this information useful, I'd be glad to send it along. The technical contact for v 1.xx is Stefan [EMAIL PROTECTED]. But send it here first, I'd be interested. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wear short sleeves! Support your right to bare arms! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mass mailing with BCC
I want to send a message to all my clients with my holiday dates. I've set up two groups, so I can send the message in two different languages to various clients. However, I want all the addresses to appear in the BCC field so that the clients don't see each other's addresses. I can't find a way to do this automatically, even using macros; any suggestions? -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mass mailing with BCC
On Friday, July 18, 2003, Mary Cassidy wrote... I want to send a message to all my clients with my holiday dates. I've set up two groups, so I can send the message in two different languages to various clients. However, I want all the addresses to appear in the BCC field so that the clients don't see each other's addresses. I can't find a way to do this automatically, even using macros; any suggestions? Well, you have half the steps done by the looks of it. You created them as groups, which will probably save you a fair bit of time. Start a new message, make sure the bcc field is visible. If it is not, go to View, and check the BCC option. You now should have two choices from this point. If you right click in the BCC field, and address menu will drop down, you should see your groups at the bottom, move your mouse over the group, and it should expand, notice the top option should be Listname entire list. The other option is to click the little address card icon on the end of the line, from the drop list in the top right, select the group, and press the icon, and click okay. Now write your message :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mass mailing with BCC
Jonathan Angliss wrote: Well, you have half the steps done by the looks of it. You created them as groups, which will probably save you a fair bit of time. Start a new message, make sure the bcc field is visible. If it is not, go to View, and check the BCC option. You now should have two choices from this point. If you right click in the BCC field, and address menu will drop down, you should see your groups at the bottom, move your mouse over the group, and it should expand, notice the top option should be Listname entire list. The other option is to click the little address card icon on the end of the line, from the drop list in the top right, select the group, and press the icon, and click okay. Now write your message :) Now why didn't I think of that? I was trying to do it with a Quick Template. Actually I spent ages looking in the Help and the FAQ, and didn't find that simple solution. Thanks a million! -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encrypt to self?
On Fri 18-Jul-03 5:37am -0400, Alexander wrote: 18-Jul-2003 03:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to encrypt to myself from within the editor in TB when I select the Privacy|OpnePGP|Sing$Encrypt...? Thats in Tools / OpenPGP / OpenPGP preferences, first tab, first checkbox always encrypt to default key That sure doesn't work here with GPG 1.2.2 (what Rafi is using). Clicking on OpenPGP Preferences does nothing. It MAY work with some GUI addon, but neither of you mentioned using one - I don't either. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encrypt to self?
On Thu 17-Jul-03 9:53pm -0400, Rafi Avital wrote: Using TB 1.62r and GnuPG 1.22 Windows 2000 SP2. Is there a way to encrypt to myself from within the editor in TB when I select the Privacy|OpnePGP|Sing$Encrypt...? Do I have to add myself to the recipient list in order to accomplish that? Is there another way? That's a known bug and persists in the Beta. TB fails to send the correct `-r` options. A temporary work-around is to add a line to your gpg.conf file: recipient `your email address` This will give you warnings when `-r your email address` is not needed. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mass mailing with BCC
On Fri 18-Jul-03 1:00pm -0400, Mary Cassidy wrote: Jonathan Angliss wrote: Well, you have half the steps done by the looks of it. ... Now why didn't I think of that? The BCC approach will work fine but is a bit impersonal. Why not just use the mass mailing feature to individually address each email? Just set mail delivery to deferred (so you can check out the results before they're sent). Then from the AB, click on the group you want to mail to and click on File; Mail Mailing using Template; pick your template and click OK. Your Outbox will be filled with the results - if you don't like them, delete, revise your template and repeat. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Encrypt to self?
On Friday, July 18, 2003, 4:37:47 AM, you wrote: A 18-Jul-2003 03:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to encrypt to myself from within the editor in TB when I select the Privacy|OpnePGP|Sing$Encrypt...? A Thats in Tools / OpenPGP / OpenPGP preferences, first tab, first checkbox A always encrypt to default key A (I just recently stumbled over the same problem;-) Thanks. Unfortunately, this only works for the Internal OpenPGP engine, not for GnuPG. I have just tested it. In fact, there is no way to determine preferences (or anything else like location of keyring files, options file etc) when GnuPG is used. I tried to change the version of OpenPGP to the internal one, then set the option you described, then change it back to GnuPG, and encrypt to a recipient. GnuPG refused to decrypt it for me reporting that there was no secret key available. Had it been encrypted to me as well as the recipient, I should have been able to decrypt this. Thanks anyway. If you think/learn of anything else, please let me know. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
GnuPG Options
I have several questions as I am evaluating TB for my use. Many thanks in advance to anyone who can answer. Using TB 1.62r, Win 2000 Pro SP2, GnuPG 1.2.2. 1. The only way to encrypt to myself is to add myself to the recipient list. This is not like the internal GPG engine within TB which allows me to check the always encrypt to default key. I've tried this but it has no effect on GnuPG. Is there a way around that? 2. In the editor, after completing a message, I go to the Privacy menu and select Encrypt and Sign and I am prompted for a passphrase. If I use the keyboard shortcut (Shift+Alt+E), the message is immediately encrypted without prompting for a passphrase. I don't know if I ever stored the passphrase, and I am unable to find out where I would disable such a feature. Can anyone let me know where/how to force TB to prompt me for a passphrase every time? [As an aside, this is the first time since Windows 3 10 years ago that I've seen a keyboard shortcut produce a different behavior that clicking on the menu option. Very questionable.] Many thanks and warmest regards Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Antivirus question
Hello all, Using TB 1.62r Windows 2000 Pro SP2. Does TB have its own built-in virus-checking engine? If not, is a separate engine required? I am thinking of using the Kaspersky (either Personal Pro or Small Business versions) - is this tool compatible with TB? Does anyone know if it offers/uses periodically updated virus info files? Alternately, can McAffee VirusScan be used and how? Many thanks in advance and best regards Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antivirus question
Rafi, Friday, July 18, 2003, 4:10:56 PM, you wrote:== RA Hello all, RA Using TB 1.62r Windows 2000 Pro SP2. RA Does TB have its own built-in virus-checking engine? If not, is a RA separate engine required? RA I am thinking of using the Kaspersky (either Personal Pro or Small RA Business versions) - is this tool compatible with TB? Does anyone RA know if it offers/uses periodically updated virus info files? RA Alternately, can McAffee VirusScan be used and how? RA Many thanks in advance and best regards RA Current version is RA 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: RA Rafi, Grisoft's free-for-personal-use AVG runs fine with The Bat! on my Windows 98SE systems. It's stopped quite a few viri (viruses???). Steve . . . Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antivirus question
Hello Rafi! On Friday, July 18, 2003, 6:10 PM, you wrote: R Does TB have its own built-in virus-checking engine? If not, is a R separate engine required? To my knowledge, it does not. However, the ability to delete questionable mails on the server through the Connection Centre is really helpful, I think. R I am thinking of using the Kaspersky (either Personal Pro or Small R Business versions) - is this tool compatible with TB? Does anyone R know if it offers/uses periodically updated virus info files? I have used Kaspersky Personal Pro for almost 8 months now. It offers updated virus-protection files daily, and sometimes several times a day. You can set it to check automatically at a time of your choosing, or update manually with a couple of mouse clicks. It includes a plug-in for The Bat! You have to enable the plug-in through TB!'s settings. But that's simple. Just go to Options/Virus Protection in the main window for the dialogue window to do this. When I accidentally started to download a message attachment containing SoBig a couple of months ago, Kaspersky AV brought the download to a halt and gave me a loud audible and a visual warning before it was halfway to my machine. Needless to say, I was grateful! R Alternately, can McAffee VirusScan be used and how? I had some difficulties with Mcafee last year. I like Kaspersky better. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Antivirus question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Steve, Saturday, July 19, 2003, 12:32:59 AM, you wrote: SMK Grisoft's free-for-personal-use AVG runs fine with The Bat! on my Windows SMK 98SE systems. It's stopped quite a few viri (viruses???). Viruses. Virii is more commonly used in the virus writing and magazine community. The antivirus community prefers to use the word viruses. They claim grammatical correctness, but there can sometimes be a sense that they're just doing it to set up a culture barrier between themselves and the virus-creators. If you want to be taken seriously by those who are in the anti-virus industry, use the word viruses - not virii. Some of them get snippy about it. ;-) - -- Best regards, Philipmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPxiIPv5iYgfYHvp6EQJwpACeIR/zcZ3sViKSAQjbjiG2VRtloAkAoNn0 irJYk3QmmHEw7aI7zYbng9Fo =qqNF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Nothing to send?
Monday, July 14, 2003, 10:43:26 PM, you wrote: AM - - Now just use the check mail for all command. If there's message to AM send in the Outbox, then they will be sent as well. You can setup a AM system hot-key for the check command as well. RMR even with the options setup like this, I have seen it happen here. RMR It's a very erratic but recurring bug, unfortunately. I agree with Ricardo. I already have the options set up as you mentioned, Allie. Thanks though. btw..sorry for the late reply..I was out of town. -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Nothing to send?
Monday, July 14, 2003, 1:35:42 PM, you wrote: MT thats because it is trying to send from an account that has nothing to send. MT then it ends up in the account that has mail to send and sends that account. Ah, I see. I was under the impression that the message was displayed when there was no mail to send in *any* account. This is what made it seem like it was erratic, since there clearly was mail to send in at least one account. Thanks -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG Options
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rafi Avital, [RA] wrote: RA 1. The only way to encrypt to myself is to add myself to the RA recipient list. This is not like the internal GPG engine within TB RA which allows me to check the always encrypt to default key. I've RA tried this but it has no effect on GnuPG. Is there a way around RA that? You need to install a GnuPG front end (I recommend GPG Shell) so that you can configure GnuPG. TB!'s internal support for GnuPG doesn't provide any means for specifically configuring GnuPG. It only allows you to sign, encrypt, decrypt via TB! commands or through the use of macros. If you install GPGShell and go into the GnuPG options panel, use the 'encrypt to keyid' option to make GnuPG always encrypt to one of your keys. You can also do this by entering the following line in your gpg.conf file: encrypt-to 0x2B0717E2 That was taken from my gpg.conf file. RA 2. In the editor, after completing a message, I go to the Privacy RA menu and select Encrypt and Sign and I am prompted for a RA passphrase. Yes. RA If I use the keyboard shortcut (Shift+Alt+E), the message is RA immediately encrypted without prompting for a passphrase. Hmmm. RA I don't know if I ever stored the passphrase, and I am unable to RA find out where I would disable such a feature. When using TB!'s GnuPG plugin, the passphrase prompt dialog has a toggle switch to enable caching of the passphrase. Once cached, it's always cached. RA Can anyone let me know where/how to force TB to prompt me for a RA passphrase every time? Delete the file PWDCACHE.INI that's in your MAIL directory (in your TB! installation directory by default). Don't enable the option to cache your passphrase and you'll be asked for it everytime. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPxic81fJ62ArBxfiEQKKbACeIzChwGIj7cfVIy6qG1L8Zbq7JdUAn3ow 4KeKPqglGNpev0OGXIXsIVDI =+4HP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antivirus question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Rafi, @18-Jul-2003, 18:10 -0500 (00:10 UK time) Rafi Avital [RA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RA Does TB have its own built-in virus-checking engine? If not, is RA a separate engine required? No and yes. TB has an interface for BAV (Bat Anti-Virus) plug ins. Any AV software for which there is a BAV available can be used. See here: ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/ Also, AVG have BAV support. RA I am thinking of using the Kaspersky (either Personal Pro or RA Small Business versions) - is this tool compatible with TB? Kaspersky support is built in - enjoy! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPxiJcTnkJKuSnc2gEQK4qwCZAWtH01Ppifoq9600xbCOlYZO8A4An20+ s3QjRh0qk/LUtVmh4GFuTE9C =XhcJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG Options
On Fri 18-Jul-03 7:04pm -0400, Rafi Avital wrote: I have several questions as I am evaluating TB for my use. Many thanks in advance to anyone who can answer. Using TB 1.62r, Win 2000 Pro SP2, GnuPG 1.2.2. 1. The only way to encrypt to myself is to add myself to the recipient list. This is not like the internal GPG engine within TB which allows me to check the always encrypt to default key. I've tried this but it has no effect on GnuPG. Is there a way around that? Yes, see my reply to you in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. In the editor, after completing a message, I go to the Privacy menu and select Encrypt and Sign and I am prompted for a passphrase. If I use the keyboard shortcut (Shift+Alt+E), the message is immediately encrypted without prompting for a passphrase. I don't know if I ever stored the passphrase, and I am unable to find out where I would disable such a feature. Can anyone let me know where/how to force TB to prompt me for a passphrase every time? Shift-Alt-E always asks me for my password. Did you accidently hit Shift-Ctrl-E? The latter is encrypt only and obviously doesn't require a password. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antivirus question
Hello Philip, On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:52:13 +0100 GMT (19/07/03, 06:52 +0700 GMT), Philip Storry wrote: Viruses. Virii is more commonly used in the virus writing and magazine community. You have just enlightened me. If you want to be taken seriously by those who are in the anti-virus industry, use the word viruses - not virii. Some of them get snippy about it. ;-) But wouldn't the plural of virus be viri - not virii? And I would think that viri are those little thingies in medical science that makes you sick, like the flu virus. Oh, and before I hear fish flying: f'up2tbot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ...und wir gingen mit unserer Lehrerin im Park spazieren. Gegenueber dem Park war ein Haus, wo die Muetter ihre Kinder gebaeren. Eine Gebaermutter schaute aus dem Fenster und winkte uns freudig zu. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Antivirus question
Hello Thomas, Friday, July 18, 2003, 11:23:54 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Philip, TF On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:52:13 +0100 GMT (19/07/03, 06:52 +0700 GMT), TF Philip Storry wrote: Viruses. Virii is more commonly used in the virus writing and magazine community. TF You have just enlightened me. If you want to be taken seriously by those who are in the anti-virus industry, use the word viruses - not virii. Some of them get snippy about it. ;-) TF But wouldn't the plural of virus be viri - not virii? And I would TF think that viri are those little thingies in medical science that TF makes you sick, like the flu virus. TF Oh, and before I hear fish flying: f'up2tbot. That's like the Roman who asked for a Martinus, The bartender said you mean a Martini. The Roman said: If I want more than one I'll ask for it. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
