Re: how to do this with sorting-office?

2003-10-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Joseph,

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:54:47 -0500 GMT (01/10/2003, 09:54 +0700 GMT),
Joseph N. wrote:

 It would be more sensible and I assume not too difficult to provide
 two extra options when a user filters on a string in the headers:
 filter outgoing and incoming the same way; or, as an alternative,
 filter outgoing and read msgs the same way.

I agree with that and am eagerly looking forward to the completely
rewritten filtering system that we will apparently see soon.

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Silly Folder Question

2003-10-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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Hi,

  I've been using TB for a while... but something puzzled me today,
  and I'm not sure why I didn't spot it earlier. Under each folder,
  there is an option use the account default specific columns...
  Okay, this seems logical, you set the column specifics for the
  columns you want displayed at the account level, and then this
  folder follows on... right?  Okay... where do we set these Account
  default specific columns ?

  If I select the account level, and change the column properties,
  select any folder, then return back to the account folder, it hasn't
  kept the settings, either that, or the display doesn't refresh as it
  maintains the preferences for the folder I just had selected after
  changing the account level. So my question is... how do we change
  that? Or is it miss-worded, and should it read parent folder?

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Re[2]: Toolbar(s)

2003-10-01 Thread Vishal
Hi Marek

Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 9:38:50 PM, you wrote:

MM Version 2.0 have not this feature, but this is planned for Christmas
MM version, as Stefan said.

Any idea if flat toolbars are on the cards? They would contribute enormously to
TB's interface and make it much more contemporary.

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Re: how to do this with sorting-office?

2003-10-01 Thread Alexander
30-Sep-2003 22:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

MW Can't you create a corresponding outgoing mail filter based on similar
MW rules as incoming mail?

 yes, this is also the idea that pops up in my head at the first time.
 but the problem is that it cost too much time.

So in essence what you're looking for would be like Outlooks (rgh, I
said it!!) option keep reply with original message (dunno what it is
called in english I only know the german UI). It simply puts the reply into
the same folder where the original message was.

I'd find that option useful for TB, too.


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Re: filing/moving messages

2003-10-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, ken green wrote...

 I get tons of e-mail and spend time going back through my Inbox filing
 and deleting when I can.  I use the Ctrl + V shortcut a lot, which
 brings up the move message(s) to... dialog window.

[..]

 But I have a lot of folders, and many start with the same letter, so
 this wasn't always the best method. But today, on a whim, I typed
 more than one letter - just started typing the folder name - and
 BAM! there's the folder I want.

This little hint also applies to the folder tree window in the main
viewer as well (in case you hadn't randomly tried in there too). Just
make sure you have the window selected first.

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Re: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

BB The problem with lists is that when people see something done
BB wrong and no correction is issued on the list, the lesson learned
BB is that the inappropriate behavior is correct and accepted.

 This posting benefits greatly from nail-on-the-head syndrome. That
 is *precisely* why all rule-break moderation is done on-list.

 There is another reason though. When the moderators don't step in
 visibly, 100+ irate member sure 'nuff will. What would you prefer?
 One post from a moderator or a free for all of admonishments from
 any offended party?

Or the moderators get 100+ messages saying why aren't you doing
anything? ;)

 I actually resigned from a list for the moderator refusing to
 perform on-list moderation. It makes no sense at any level.

I tend to keep it all on list on the ones I manage, if they decided to
complain about it, then it goes off-list.

 The third explanation is that we're just a bunch power hungry
 megalomaniacs who love to see our admonishments hurled around the
 planet in the form of irate electrons. But, hey, aren't we all? At
 heart? I mean, c'mon fellas (and fella-ettes)!

*grins* see... we all knew that was the reason... there is no need to
hide it from us... we're all friends here ;)

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Re: MyGate 2.5

2003-10-01 Thread Kevin Coates
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Hi Andrew,

On Sep 30, 2003, 19:59 +0300 (12:59 PM here), Andrew Perevodchik [AP]
wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

AP I have those tmps too. Can anyone confirm that those are because
AP of MyGate? Strange thing is that MyGate doesn't use any temp files
AP in tmp folder and is not supposed to affect TB behaviour at all,
AP cause it runs as a separate task...

I just tried another test. The results were rather strange. I started
downloading and my temp folder went from 6 files to 6032 after the
download. These are bat.tmp files, all zero bytes. During the
download it said there were 17.7 megs of messages. After the download
I had 64 new messages all text (no binaries) and certainly not 17 megs
worth of data.

The Bat! has been downloading mail to the other accounts for an hour
or so before the test so the tmp files must be from the MyGate process
as that is configured to run manually.

I do have this account in The Bat! configured to delete downloaded
messages from the server.

I will check the X-MyGate-MID on the dups with the next download.

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The Bat 2.00 and support for HTML

2003-10-01 Thread Gerrit Kiers
Hello all,

I didn't really follow the development of version 2, but I surely
picked up support for HTML all along the long road leading to the
release of version 2. To my great surprise this support is really very
limited. Too limited in my opinion, and it does not even function
well. Now, I personally never use formatted e-mail (I use The Bat! 
;-)), but I there are several instances when HTML format does add
quality to the message created. 

For one: I maintain a scientific NGO's mailinglist and for obvious
reasons a well structured HTML formatted e-mail is superior to any
text message (And here you might feel provoked ;-)). So we do use HTML
and our current implementation of it with The Bat! includes several
work-arounds. It seems that with the release of version 2 we'll have
to live with these work-arounds a little longer, since replying,
forwarding or redirecting an HTML formatted message does not preserve
the original HTML format (as it should be IMO, and even included in
the sorting office as an option).

(For another: Kids...)

Also the current HTML editing capacities are unsatisfactory. Simply
from a general point of view: I cannot use TAB to align, I think
supporting of (un)numbered lists is basic (but currently lacking) and
not supporting alignment on the level of a paragraph seems
unsatisfactory to me as well.

And what seems to be a a bug to me (or at least a bad implementation):
My boilerplate includes e-mail addresses and Internet addresses in the
form of mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and http://visit.here.org. If I change
between the different message formats while composing my e-mail, these
tags are deleted by The Bat!.

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Re:Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Clive Taylor

 Why these repetitve instructions?!?

Maybe some of us need to be reminded about the list rules constantly.
For example, the message about inserting a sig delimiter doesn’t seem
to have reached you yet :(

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long messages get truncated

2003-10-01 Thread Geir Bækholt
Hi tbudl,

I have a problem on theBat 2.00.6 Business Ed.

Lately i have been getting some rather longish business-mails, and
theBat insists on truncating them about half-way throgh. I have to
resort to the message source (f9) to read the complete contents.

If i make a reply, the entire contents are there.

Anyone experienced anything similar ?


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Re: long messages get truncated

2003-10-01 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 10:08, Geir Bækholt wrote:
 Lately i have been getting some rather longish business-mails...

How long is a longish email for you?

I just tested it with a plain text newsletter I got (which is roughly
53KB big) and I can read the whole message without problems.

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Re: Silly Folder Question

2003-10-01 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Jonathan,

on Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:08:52 -0500GMT (01.10.03, 06:08 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

JA   use the account default specific columns...

As far as I understand the account default refers to all folders that
have this option checked. Any change you make in one of them should
apply to all the others, at least that's how it works here.

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Re: XLAT-Table for UTF-8?

2003-10-01 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 22:20, Marek Mikus wrote:
 no, but Unicode should be supported very soon, AFAIK.

Soon? According to Bugtrack Unicode-support is open since January
2002... ;)

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Re: Silly Folder Question

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jonathan,

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:08:52 -0500GMT (1-10-03, 6:08 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

JA I've been using TB for a while... but something puzzled me today,
JA and I'm not sure why I didn't spot it earlier. Under each folder,
JA there is an option use the account default specific columns...

You select this option for a number of folders.
Now when you change the column settings for one of these folders,
you'll see that all of them have changed accordingly.
There's no root folder that takes these settings along, just change
one and you'll change all of them.

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Re: XLAT-Table for UTF-8?

2003-10-01 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 11:36, Thorvald Neumann wrote:
 Soon? According to Bugtrack Unicode-support is open since January
 2002... ;)

It is in the Wishlist section...

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=234

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Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-10-01 Thread Krister Ekstrom
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Hi Andrew,
In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 30 Sep 2003 23:39:42  (my local time 1 okt 2003 00:39:42), you
typed:
AH If I get the following:

AH   Subject  Author
AH   Test Message Andrew Hodgson
AH   Test Message Another user

AH   Then  when  arrowing  through those messages, my screen reader would
AH   read  the  first line out completely, but the second line would only
AH   read  out  the  author of the new message, not the subject again, as
AH   this  is the same.  The same principal works for the author.

I know you don't have the inbox threaded by reference, but how if at
all, do you have it threaded? or do you have the same problem even if
threading by reference?
I can't remember having that problem with jfw, but then again, it was
quite a while since i last used Jaws to read the bat! mail.
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Re: The Bat 2.00 and support for HTML

2003-10-01 Thread Gerrit Kiers
 Hello batters,

Noticed I forgot my question: Can anyone tell me what the further
goals for HTML support are?

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Invalid HTML Message Given for a Plain Text Message

2003-10-01 Thread Kim
Hi all,

Last night, when receiving a reply for a customer support inquiry I
made to an online software company, I received this information in the
message section of the Bat, instead of the actual reply:

Invalid HTML !
Please forward this message to developers. 
Thanks. 
EConvertError '121612161216' is not a valid integer value

The error message was printed in blue and red lettering.

However, when I also received this same message on my little PDA, it
came through fine (the PDA doesn't allow any HTML in an e-mail message
though). I went to the customer support site for the software vendor
and looked up my support request manually in their system, where I was
able to get the text. I then copied the text from the original message
there, and e-mailed it to myself. This time the error didn't appear,
and I saw the text of the message fine.

I did view the source code of the problematic message, which included
the following:

X-Mailer: JMail 4.3.0 by Dimac
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I have received messages previously from customer support from the
same software vendor without problems. Those messages used the same
mailer and content type as the message that gave the HTML error. The
messages all appear to have been sent in plain text, which makes the
HTML error message even more strange. The most recent message I
received from this company prior to the one with the error was about
two weeks ago. I was using the same version of the Bat then, as I am
now. I'm currently using the Bat Personal Edition 2.00.6.

Has anyone else come across a similar error in version 2 of the Bat?
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Invalid HTML Message Given for a Plain Text Message

2003-10-01 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Wednesday, October 1, 2003, Kim wrote:

 Has anyone else come across a similar error in version 2 of the Bat?
 Thanks in advance.

this problem was already fixed, wait for new version, it will be
released this week AFAIK.

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Re: Invalid HTML Message Given for a Plain Text Message

2003-10-01 Thread John Phillips
Hi Kim,
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003, at 06:50:59 [GMT-0400] (which was 20:50:59
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:



 Has anyone else come across a similar error in version 2 of the Bat?
 Thanks in advance.


This has been raised a few times - supposed to be fixed real soon
now.


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Re: Invalid HTML Message Given for a Plain Text Message

2003-10-01 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 12:50, Kim wrote:
 Has anyone else come across a similar error in version 2 of the Bat?

This is a known bug with UTF-8 messages in TB!. A fix was promised
soon.

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Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-10-01 Thread Andrew Hodgson
  Hello Krister,

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 9:33:54 AM, you wrote:

KE Hi Andrew,
KE In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
KE  On 30 Sep 2003 23:39:42  (my local time 1 okt 2003 00:39:42), you
KE typed:
AH If I get the following:

AH   Subject  Author
AH   Test Message Andrew Hodgson
AH   Test Message Another user

AH   Then  when  arrowing  through those messages, my screen reader would
AH   read  the  first line out completely, but the second line would only
AH   read  out  the  author of the new message, not the subject again, as
AH   this  is the same.  The same principal works for the author.

KE I know you don't have the inbox threaded by reference, but how if at
KE all, do you have it threaded? or do you have the same problem even if
KE threading by reference?

  I  have the same problem regardless of how it is threaded.  When you
  spoke  of  TB not speaking in the message list view, I was wondering
  whether you had the same issue.

Andrew.

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Re: The Bat 2.00 and support for HTML

2003-10-01 Thread Deborah W
On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 2:19:19 AM, Gerrit Kiers wrote:

GK I didn't really follow the development of version 2, but I surely
GK picked up support for HTML all along the long road leading to the
GK release of version 2. To my great surprise this support is really
GK very limited. Too limited in my opinion, and it does not even
GK function well.

I agree with this. It's not even possible to cut  paste html into an
email using v2's html editor.

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Re: MyGate 2.5

2003-10-01 Thread Kevin Coates
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Hi Andrew,

On Sep 30, 2003, 19:59 +0300 (12:59 PM here), Andrew Perevodchik [AP]
wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

AP Check out, if numbers of X-MyGate-MID are the same in duplicate
AP messages. This header is added by MyGate 2.5, so I hope you have
AP some recently-recieved dupes.

Here are the X-MyGate-MID entries contained in 3 duplicate messages
from 3 different usenet groups:

X-MyGate-MID: roadrunner.twcny.help:241
X-MyGate-MID: roadrunner.twcny.help:241

X-MyGate-MID: roadrunner.twcny.security:41
X-MyGate-MID: roadrunner.twcny.security:41

X-MyGate-MID: roadrunner.twcny.general:6767
X-MyGate-MID: roadrunner.twcny.general:6767

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Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-10-01 Thread Krister Ekstrom
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Hi Andrew,
In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 1 Oct 2003 13:35:15  (my local time 14:35:15), you typed:
AH When you
AH   spoke  of  TB not speaking in the message list view, I was wondering
AH   whether you had the same issue.

I had it when viewing a folder with the message list visible. It was
because of that that i started to use the main message view instead of
the folder view. It was much smoother for me.

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Re: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Clive,

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 12:28:29 AM, you wrote:
CT Maybe some of us need to be reminded about the list rules
CT constantly. For example, the message about inserting a sig
CT delimiter doesn’t seem to have reached you yet :(

*Exactly* the point! There are boatloads of lurkers on the lists.
While everything is spelled out in the list rules that *everyone* gets
when they subscribe, nobody ever seems to read them. Therefore, the
lurkers would never know what's allowed and not allowed if it's not
public.

I've had this same conversation with Yuki off-list. Marck, Allie and I
have been moderating the TB lists for ages now. We've just about tried
every form and fashion of moderation known to mankind, and we stick
with what works for us over the years. We still tweak here and now
(i.e. the recent standardization of moderation messages for example),
but for the most part what we're doing does work.

Marck pointed out in his reply about users taking up the moderation
when the moderators don't make it public. When we were privately
moderating, it was unbelievable how much traffic was generated by
users telling the person who did The Bad Thing (tm) that they violated
the rules. We've been there and done that.

We still use private moderation for sensitive issues, but those are
much more rare occasions.

Alas, what Marck said also is most true... We just like to hear
ourselves talk. ;-)



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Re: Silly Folder Question

2003-10-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Wednesday, October 01, 2003, Peter Meyns wrote...

JA use the account default specific columns...

 As far as I understand the account default refers to all folders
 that have this option checked. Any change you make in one of them
 should apply to all the others, at least that's how it works here.

Ahh see... now I knew it was a silly question ;) Thanks, that certain
behaves as you (and Roelof) described it... I think the wording on it
is a little unusual however, but that might be just me.

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Re[2]: how to do this with sorting-office?

2003-10-01 Thread Samson
Hello Edgar,

E 1) You can enter a new headerfield in your mail called projectid
E 2) You  can also make a reply template that gives this projectid the name
Eof the folder where you answered the original message.
E 3) Then you can filter on projectid for outgoing mails.

This sounds like a good solution. At least it unifies the way to
create outgoing filters.

Will adding a non-standard header in the mail affect compatibility?

Thanks Edgar. Anyway I'll try this first.

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folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-01 Thread Samson
Hello tbudl,

if i have a folder tree like this:

- projects
  +-- project_a
  +-- project_b
  +-- ...

is it possible to only modify the reply template of projects, and
let project_* sub folders inherit this parent template so i don't have
to edit them one by one?

thanks.


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Re: long messages get truncated

2003-10-01 Thread Geir Bækholt
Hello Thorvald,

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 10:35:14 AM, you wrote:

 Hæ!

 Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 10:08, Geir Bækholt wrote:
 Lately i have been getting some rather longish business-mails...

 How long is a longish email for you?

 I just tested it with a plain text newsletter I got (which is roughly
 53KB big) and I can read the whole message without problems.

ahh. no , nothing like that. i just checked again, to try to find
symptoms.

strange.
One mail this happened to was about 15-20kb size itself, and had two
attachments : one of about 7 and one of 56kb.

When i first got it, it was mangled badly, truncated after 8kb, and
with the rest of the mail and the attachments as an attached
winmail.dat
I don't know what client made it because it has been passed through a
mailinglist-thing that sets its own header for that before it reached
me, but i expect it to originate from outlook or something similar.

Here are some headers, edited slightly for privacy :

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 40414 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Sep 2003 17:30:43 -
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 40409 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2003 17:30:43 -
Received: from server2.omnimedia.no (HELO plonesolutions.com) (213.236.237.166)
  by ting.net with SMTP; 23 Sep 2003 17:30:43 -
Received: from server2.omnimedia.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by plonesolutions.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
id 367863E632D; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:30:36 +0200 (CEST)
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from homer.lld.dk (mail.lld.dk [130.226.204.66])
by plonesolutions.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B4E3E632C
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:30:34 +0200 (CEST)
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
MIME-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:34:06 +0200
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0
X-MS-Has-Attach: yes
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thread-Topic: schedule
Thread-Index: AcN+rVR3UkafWvPfQ1aVPK/7DgMIbgDR40c5
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: =?UTF-8?Q?Geir_B=C3=A6kholt_=C2=B7_Plone_Solutions?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C381F8.E36D86F7
X-mailer: PloneMail
Subject: RE: schedule
X-Text-Classification: inbox
X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:8079/jump_to_message?view=popfile14837=2.msg

I had a friend who also received it, forward it to me in his
opera-mailer. That copy was all fine. Also, if i reply to it, the
entire text is in the reply, no truncating there. It is also all
available if i view the message source. I have all html turned off.

i am very puzzled.

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Re[3]: Toolbar(s)

2003-10-01 Thread Jack Morrison
Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 11:47:48 PM, you wrote:

 Any idea if flat toolbars are on the cards? They would contribute enormously to
 TB's interface and make it much more contemporary.

Any idea what flat toolbars even are?  I haven't a clue.

But then, I often don't. :)

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Re: how to do this with sorting-office?

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Samson,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:56:06 -0700GMT (1-10-03, 17:56 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

S Will adding a non-standard header in the mail affect compatibility?

No. It's common though, when you invent your own header, to let the
header tag be preceded by 'X-'. So instead of Folder-ID, you'd better
use X-Folder-ID.

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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Samson,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:00:34 -0700GMT (1-10-03, 18:00 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

S is it possible to only modify the reply template of projects, and
S let project_* sub folders inherit this parent template so i don't have
S to edit them one by one?

No.
However if you use the %FolderName macro, you can insert it in your
account macro and as long as you haven't yet created folder templates,
all folders will use this.
%SetHeader(X-Folder-ID,%FolderName)%-

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Re[2]: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Jack Morrison
Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 9:10:41 AM, you wrote:

[]
 I've had this same conversation with Yuki off-list. Marck, Allie and I
 have been moderating the TB lists for ages now. We've just about tried
 every form and fashion of moderation known to mankind, and we stick
 with what works for us over the years.
[]

I've frequented a *lot* of help lists over the years (because I usually
need a *LOT* of help), and this one could, or should, be the prototype on
how to run one efficiently. I even moderate a few lists myself.

And I definitely give it a two thumbs up these days!

If I had a third thumb, you'd get that one, too.

Keep up the great work, guys!  You'll never make everyone 100% happy,
but you're getting close enough for government work.

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Re: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:10:28 -0500GMT (1-10-03, 21:10 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

JM I've frequented a *lot* of help lists over the years (because I usually
JM need a *LOT* of help), and this one could, or should, be the prototype on
JM how to run one efficiently.

Okay, admit it. How much did they pay you. ;-)

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Re: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Jack,

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 1:10:28 PM, you wrote:
JM If I had a third thumb, you'd get that one, too.

Thanks... grin

JM Keep up the great work, guys! You'll never make everyone 100%
JM happy, but you're getting close enough for government work.

Since I work for the gov't that makes it just fine! ;-)



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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-01 Thread Edgar
Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 9:14:22 PM, you wrote:

 However if you use the %FolderName macro, you can insert it in your
 account macro and as long as you haven't yet created folder templates,
 all folders will use this.
 %SetHeader(X-Folder-ID,%FolderName)%-

I could not find the %SetHeader in the macro list in the help file.
Maybe I missed it but just in case I did not, is there a place where
to find these Macro's that are not in the help file or better yet a
complete overview of the macro's (and purpose).

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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-01 Thread Gerrit Kiers
Hallo Roelof,

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 9:14:22 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

RO However if you use the %FolderName macro, you can insert it in your
RO account macro and as long as you haven't yet created folder templates,
RO all folders will use this.
RO %SetHeader(X-Folder-ID,%FolderName)%-

This sounds like a trick I'd like to use, but unfortunately I don't
understand it. I know I can create templates at account level, and
that all folders will default to these templates, unless at folder
level I create a specific template.

Where and how should I use the  %FolderName macro?

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Re[2]: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Bill Blinn Technology Editor
At 3:52 PM on 10/1/2003, Melissa Reese typed ...

M By the way...shouldn't this thread be moved to TBOT? ;-)

No thread praising the administrators should moved anywhere.

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Re[2]: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Jack Morrison
Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 2:43:24 PM, you wrote:

 Hallo Jack,

 On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:10:28 -0500GMT (1-10-03, 21:10 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

JM I've frequented a *lot* of help lists over the years (because I usually
JM need a *LOT* of help), and this one could, or should, be the prototype on
JM how to run one efficiently.

 Okay, admit it. How much did they pay you. ;-)

Unlimited free upgrades, a subscription to Skeptic Magazine, a
mixed fruit and cheese basket, and, of course, a promise never to
bounce me. :)

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OT: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Melissa,

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 1:52:30 PM, you wrote:
MR When it comes to typing, some of us are all thumbs...so I'll add
MR my extra thumbs to yours! :-)

MR By the way...shouldn't this thread be moved to TBOT? ;-)


True enough

Not that I think anybody would like to move to TBOT just to sing our
praises! grin

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This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this
on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain
threading.)

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Re: Note to screenreader users, was Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-10-01 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hello Krister,

Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 11:50:47 AM, you wrote:

KE A note to our screen reader using friends, a way of trimming the reply
KE is that when you read the message, you can actually select text rather
KE like in a word processor, ie by using the shift key in conjunction
KE with up-or down arrow, pgup or pgdown, home or end respectively. After
KE selecting your text, press f4 and you're in the message editor with
KE the text you selected as quoted text.

What a cool feature!!!  Only problem is, how can I copy more text from
the original message?  Every day I learn something new about TB,
truely an amazing program.

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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Edgar,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:51:22 +0200GMT (1-10-03, 21:51 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 However if you use the %FolderName macro, you can insert it in your
 account macro and as long as you haven't yet created folder templates,
 all folders will use this.
 %SetHeader(X-Folder-ID,%FolderName)%-

E I could not find the %SetHeader in the macro list in the help file.

Go (in the index) for 'Template Macros' and select 'header macros'

E Maybe I missed it but just in case I did not, is there a place where
E to find these Macro's that are not in the help file or better yet a
E complete overview of the macro's (and purpose).

The help-file isn't as far developed as we'd like. It's always behind
the development of the actual release. That's why this list is so
useful.

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Folder purging/cleaning ??

2003-10-01 Thread Rob
Hi,

i just noticed a whole bunch of very recent (1 from today!) TBUDL posts in
my Trash folder, which is a bit odd as i have '999' as 'maximum number of
stored messages' and '21 days' as 'keep messages in the base for ...' for
the TBUDL folder.

Still there are 1196 messages in the folder (even after 'purge  compress')
and the messages in the Trash are as recent as 27  28 Sep. while there are
still messages in the TBUDL folder dated 9 Sep. ?!

Either i'm missing something or is there a buglet ??

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Re[2]: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Jack Morrison
Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 2:40:22 PM, you wrote:

JM Keep up the great work, guys! You'll never make everyone 100%
JM happy, but you're getting close enough for government work.

 Since I work for the gov't that makes it just fine! ;-)

I should probably quit while I'm ahead, eh?  :)

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Re: how to do this with sorting-office?

2003-10-01 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Roelof,

On 01 October 2003, 21:07 +0200 (01/10/200320:07 local time) Roelof
Otten [RO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

S Will adding a non-standard header in the mail affect compatibility?

RO No. It's common though, when you invent your own header, to let the
RO header tag be preceded by 'X-'. So instead of Folder-ID, you'd better
RO use X-Folder-ID.

Is that possible? As far as I know you cannot use the - character with
%HDR; e.g. %HDRX-List-ID=%FOLDERNAME%-. Or am I missing something?

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Re: how to do this with sorting-office?

2003-10-01 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Roelof,

On 01 October 2003, 21:07 +0200 (01/10/200320:07 local time) Roelof
Otten [RO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

S Will adding a non-standard header in the mail affect compatibility?

RO No. It's common though, when you invent your own header, to let the
RO header tag be preceded by 'X-'. So instead of Folder-ID, you'd better
RO use X-Folder-ID.

Is that possible? As far as I know you cannot use the - character with
%HDR; e.g. %HDRX-List-ID=%FOLDERNAME%-. Or am I missing something?

- - --
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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gerrit,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:17:37 +0200GMT (1-10-03, 22:17 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO %SetHeader(X-Folder-ID,%FolderName)%-

GK This sounds like a trick I'd like to use, but unfortunately I don't
GK understand it. I know I can create templates at account level, and
GK that all folders will default to these templates, unless at folder
GK level I create a specific template.

GK Where and how should I use the  %FolderName macro?

Samson wanted to filter his message back to the folder where they were
created. To do that, you need to identify to the folder. That's done
with the macro I suggested. You place the macro on a single line,
doesn't matter where in your templates. (New message, Reply, Forward)

Now you need to filter the messages back to their originating folder
after sending. (Or to a related folder.)
For a message from the Inbox, you need this string:
X-Folder-ID: Inbox
to be present in the kludges, it needs to be an outgoing filter, since
it's going to process outgoing messages.

Create a likewise filter for every folder you'd like the outgoing
messages to be processed different from the default.

Of course you don't need to use an extra header to place the
foldername, but a header makes it less visible for the recipient.
There's no need to bother your contacts with your archiving system.

Since most e-mail clients are able to show the headers, you'll need a
little bit of prudence when naming your folders. It wouldn't do to
have a header like: 'X-Folder-ID: Mindless twits' ;-)
But, I suppose, you wouldn't care in this case. eg

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Re: OT: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread St - Musaic.Net

 This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this
 on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain
 threading.)

  Point taken - but to those who don't follow TBOT, I'd like to say:
  Please spank me no more! Weeeny! I am a repentant! Have Mercy! :)

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Re: Note to screenreader users, was Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Steve,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:48:51 -0400GMT (1-10-03, 17:48 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

KE After selecting your text, press f4 and you're in the message
KE editor with the text you selected as quoted text.

SMS What a cool feature!!!  Only problem is, how can I copy more text from
SMS the original message?

When you want to quote multiple phrases, I suppose it's easiest way to
quote the whole message and delete what you don't want to include.

If you prefer to insert several quotes over deleting the uinwanted
stuff, you can go back to the original message (while you're composing
your reply) select a phrase, copy it with Ctrl-C, go back to the edit
window and paste with Alt-Ins (Edit - Paste as quotation)

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Re: Folder purging/cleaning ??

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Rob,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:42:59 +0200GMT (1-10-03, 22:42 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

R Either i'm missing something or is there a buglet ??

You wouldn't have parked all of those 1196 messages, would you?

Delete the messages.tbi in the tbudl folder, maybe its corrupt. (Don't
touch the messages.tbb file)

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Re: Note to screenreader users, was Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-10-01 Thread Jernej Simoni
On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 17:48:51, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote:

 What a cool feature!!!  Only problem is, how can I copy more text from
 the original message?  Every day I learn something new about TB,
 truely an amazing program.

Use Shift+Tab when you're in the message body, and focus should jump to the
preview pane - you can select more text there again. To paste as quote, use
Alt+Insert.

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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-01 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Roelof,

On 01 October 2003, 21:14 +0200 (01/10/200320:14 local time) Roelof
Otten [RO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

S is it possible to only modify the reply template of projects, and
S let project_* sub folders inherit this parent template so i don't have
S to edit them one by one?

RO No.
RO However if you use the %FolderName macro, you can insert it in your
RO account macro and as long as you haven't yet created folder templates,
RO all folders will use this.
RO %SetHeader(X-Folder-ID,%FolderName)%-

What if you already have folder templates? And how does this differ from
the %HDR macro?

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MyGate References

2003-10-01 Thread Peter Fjelsten
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 I get the message:

 Message has not been sent. Server reply - Rejected.
 Server said 441 437 References header too long

 Has anybody experienced that before? I don't if the server is my news
 server or MyGate.

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greeting Best regards /greeting 
author Peter Fjelsten /author
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Re: OT: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-01 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello St,

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 3:05:47 PM, you wrote:
SMN Point taken - but to those who don't follow TBOT, I'd like to
SMN say: Please spank me no more! Weeeny! I am a repentant! Have
SMN Mercy! :)

Sorry, gotta do it one more time... The sig delimiter is:

dash dash space

It looks like you're missing the space afterwards. It's gotta be
there.

:-)


moderator

This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to
the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated
this reply. Please don't feel singled out St.

Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists
of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. 
This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without
the signature and list footers since everything below and including 
the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting.

You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter
in your templates.

Thank you.

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Re: how to do this with sorting-office?

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Martin,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:48:00 +0100GMT (1-10-03, 22:48 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MW Is that possible? As far as I know you cannot use the - character with

Maybe I'm missing something, can't get it to work. I thought it would
though. :-(


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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Martin,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:24:01 +0100GMT (1-10-03, 23:24 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO %SetHeader(X-Folder-ID,%FolderName)%-
MW What if you already have folder templates?

Then you're without luck.

MW And how does this differ from the %HDR macro?

Can't find any %hdr macro in the help, nor in the readme that was
released together with 2.00.06
Apart from that, I can't get any of them to work. :-(

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Re:Folder purging/cleaning ??

2003-10-01 Thread Rob
Hi Roelof,

on Wed, 1 Oct 2003, at 23:22:31 local time (GMT +0200), you wrote:

RO You wouldn't have parked all of those 1196 messages, would you?

Nope, just a dozen or so ...

RO Delete the messages.tbi in the tbudl folder, maybe its corrupt.

Tried it, no change.

But i see what's happening now ; when i purge the folder, all messages i
just read are moved to Trash, regardless of their date ?! I would expect
that older, un-read messages should be trashed first ...

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Re: Folder purging/cleaning ??

2003-10-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Rob,

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 00:42:05 +0200GMT (2-10-03, 0:42 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

R But i see what's happening now ; when i purge the folder, all messages i
R just read are moved to Trash, regardless of their date ?!

That's not the intended behaviour.

R I would expect that older, un-read messages should be trashed first

That's how it happens here. Well, now I realise that you've got (lots
of) unread messages in your folder. Maybe that's the problem.
What happens when you mark all messages read? (Select the folder in
the account tree pane and press Ctrl-M)

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Re: First impressions

2003-10-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Bats-

After spending a bit of time evaluating this I have now reverted to
v1.63.

V2 has proven to be *significantly* slower than previous versions,
especially in dealing with network issues. It easily takes 15 seconds
to respond when I try to delete a message - meanwhile TB's CPU usage
goes up to 30%.

Also, folder event updates don't seem to propagate around the network.
When the server receives a new message or when a message goes out from
the outbox the client machines never receive an update. I have to move
the focus to each individual folder to see if there's anything new.

Either one of these would rule out TBv2 for me as an email client. I
make a living as a QA engineer, and I'd be embarrassed to have this
released on my watch. I'm going back to my favorite email client, even
if I can't write macros to fiddle with the headers.

-- 
-Mark Wieder
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Delete highlights in Editor

2003-10-01 Thread Peter Kerekes
Lately when I use the Plain Text (MicroEd) editor when I highlight a line it
deletes only letter by letter. If I recall earlier the highlighted text deleted
in one keystroke, as in other editors.

I probably changed some setting inadvertently but cannot find which one.

Note: if I change to Plain Text (Windows) it works OK.

Would appreciate help.

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Best regards,
Peter Kerekes (Toronto, Canada)  


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Re: Delete highlights in Editor

2003-10-01 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Peter,

@1-Oct-2003, 17:04 -0400 (02-Oct 22:04 UK time) Peter Kerekes [PK]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

PK I probably changed some setting inadvertently but cannot find
PK which one.

Preferences | Editor |
  Persistent blocks [Off]
  Overwrite blocks  [On ]

Those settings should normalise things for you.

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Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
TB! v2.00.22 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1


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Re[2]: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-01 Thread Samson
Hello Roelof,

RO Samson wanted to filter his message back to the folder where they were
RO created. To do that, you need to identify to the folder. That's done
RO with the macro I suggested. You place the macro on a single line,
RO doesn't matter where in your templates. (New message, Reply, Forward)

Yes exactly. Using something like a X-Folder-ID header will at least
make all outgoing filter look alike (they all filter by Kludge
X-Folder-ID: project_name).

So far I'm setting this Setheader macro in each of my project sub
folder one by one. seems no way to change once and apply to all...

(Using The Bat! v2.00.22 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 )

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Re[2]: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-01 Thread Samson
Hello Roelof,

RO Apart from that, I can't get any of them to work. :-(

%Setheader works for me (i didn't try %HDR because %setheader is good
enough).

I think the key is, before you specify your own header, you must first
define this header in option/preference/message-headers. otherwise
%setheader won't work.

(Using The Bat! v2.00.22 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 )

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 Samsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]







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TheBat mailbox format

2003-10-01 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi all,

In what format does TheBat store its mail boxes? Does it use the unix style 
mail format like Eudora?

Pranav


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