Re: Help, something happened to my display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Steve, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 20 Oct 2003 11:39:56 (my local time 17:39:56), you typed: SMS My question is, does anyone know SMS what might have caused this to happen? Better yet, does anyone know SMS how to fix this behavior from the keyboard? This is one of the wonderful things with TB; in order to get things right with the columns, do the following: go to view|message list columns and hit enter. Now you're in a dialog where you from a list can pick the column you want to modify, add or even get rid of. After choosing the column you want to modify, you can tab to an edit field where you type in a value in pixels for the width of the column. (If only other windblows programs could do this...) Ok out of the dialog and you're done. If you set the folder for which you manipulate the columns to use the default column settings in the properties of the folder and then change the column width or what columns to be shown, the settings also apply to the folders that are set to use default column settings. I just wish this could be true for other accounts as well so that we didn't have to set column settings for each and every account in TB! but that's another subject alltogether. HTH - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V2.01, on Windows XP 5 1 build 2600 Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQE/lObjODlJeoMTOQsRAx/zAJ0fS9BrJGOL6QrkusxATbKQuuB8qgCfYTV5 /iHUDFmYCrTjXnA9ojwqfns= =3zD2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/MIME encrypting problem
Hello Melissa, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 2:25:41 AM, you wrote: I seem to be able to sign messages using PGP/MIME (we'll see if this message turns out okay in that regard), Signature is fine here! but I seem quite unable to encrypt any message using PGP/MIME. When I try to select the encrypt when complete option That's weird to say the least. Everything worked fine for me first time using PGP 8.0.2. I had to play with GnuPG for a while though. What's going on here? No clue at the moment. Wish I could help but it's way past my bed time and my brain is already in bed I think... If I can come up with something I'll let you know! -- Best regards, Jimmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
On Monday, October 20, 2003, 23:18:22, Jim D wrote: And this has the aforementioned X-Mailer on/off toggle. Doesn't help too much, though: My Spamassasssin says: * 1.2 PRIORITY_NO_NAME Message has priority setting, but no X-Mailer even though the message in question was sent with normal priority. Roman -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany The difference between youth and middle age is not physical. It is in how you see the soul. -- Ruth Rudner, Poet, The Sun, May 1994 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot Invoke AB Templates?
Good afternoon Nick, It was foretold that on 21-10-2003 @ 19:50:21 GMT-0700 (which was 4:50:21 where I live) Nick Andriash would mumble: snipped a bit NA For now, I've given up on AB level templates and will go with one NA Account level template. Yes but how do you solve the following situation: AB x AB y: entry john Doe belongs to both AB's with different templates and different mail address: will the account level pick up? And what if you you have john Doe in 1 AB and also somebody else that needs an entirely different template? Using a macro for that different template and if so, how to invoke that? Manual? Simpler said: a template on account level gives you one template but what if you need different templates in the same AB? (mmm, i hope i make sense...) -- Best regards, Luc http://www.dzinelabs.com --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 and using the best browser: Opera. Quarrels would not last long if the fault were only on one side. - La Rochefoucauld, Maxims. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot Invoke AB Templates?
Hi Nick, @20-Oct-2003, 11:18 -0700 (19:18 UK time) Nick Andriash [NA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: NA ... Use a specific template for..., and then making sure there NA were no Folder or Account level templates. NA I've done that, but my replies show up empty... An empty folder template may supersede an AB template. Copy the account default template and paste it into the folder template. Then try the AB template again. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v2.01.2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:35:04 -0700, Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really unfortunate that this had to be fixed by those not at all at fault here. That sure is - as usual, the good suffer for the bad. Is there anything we can do to help shutdown the original spammer/software that started this whole mess? Not much, I'm afraid - educate e-mail users, change the world and weed out all Outhouse (Exp) is the only way, but way out of reach for the small minority that we are. Who is ever being taken serious when this is discussed and you mention the possibility of using /other/ than free or cracked software that is not prone to be virus-infected? Personally, 1 out of 100 times if I recall well. But as long as there are even sysadmins of huge corporations advising me to assign a pretty DNS name to our company's mailserver, in this respect I've not much confidence in fellow-bipeds. Duh. -- Cory Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/MIME encrypting problem
Hi Melissa, on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:25:41 -0700GMT (21.10.03, 08:25 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MR I seem to be able to sign messages using PGP/MIME (we'll see if this MR message turns out okay in that regard), but I seem quite unable to MR encrypt any message using PGP/MIME. MR What's going on here? It is a known bug that once affected Win98 users. In the latest versions it works OK on Win98, but it seems to hit XP now. See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001512 and perhaps add your comment. -- Cheers Peter And always remember that it's bad style to start a sentence with a conjunction! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hi The_Bat! Users, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 3:37:10 AM, you wrote: RK My Spamassasssin says: RK * 1.2 PRIORITY_NO_NAME Message has priority setting, but no X-Mailer RK even though the message in question was sent with normal priority. Is this saying that it needs the X-Mailer header in order to get mail through? -- Regards, John Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
GnuPG (was : your signed emails)
Hi Jim, on Mon, 20 Oct 2003, at 15:07:37 local time (GMT -0700), you wrote: The 'comment block' option does work, but the 'cache passphrase' does not. JD FYI - the release notes on 2.01.3 state that this option now works. you mean this : [+] GnuPG passphrase caching. The user now can select from various signing keys available. well, caching does not work and i can not select signing keys ; i get a password prompt for the one that 'belongs' to the account ... -- Rob using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 ~ Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: X-Mailer? Whats the big deal)
Hi Darrin, @20-Oct-2003, 22:23 -0700 (21-Oct 06:23 UK time) Darrin [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Allen: D So I place -- (dash, dash, space) then enter my name or whatever D below and this trims the signature in replys? D -- D Darrin Yes - not multiple dashes - SCNR, but g ... moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Darrin. Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Thank you. /moderator -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v2.01.2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5.2
Hello Andrew, On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:03:12 +0300 GMT (18/10/2003, 15:03 +0700 GMT), Andrew Perevodchik wrote: MyGate 2.5.2 * fixed bugs which made AV and other kinds of error messages This confirmation comes a bit late, as I wanted to be sure. I can now confirm that I have not had a single AV since downloading this new version (they came very often in previous versions). Thanks! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Never trust a dog to watch your food. - Patrick, age 10 Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
xmailer_patch_2_01_3.exe
Hello The_Bat! Users, You can enable the X-Mailer by going to Options | Preferences [X]Use X-Mailer header in messages (for administrative purposes) and here is a patch if you want to convert the x-mailer The Bat! to RitLabs! Just in case spam filters will not let a message through without an X-Mailer, and with The Bat as the X-Mailer. Plus it is nice to know what version that people are using, incase they forget to put it in their templates. http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/xmailer_patch_2_01_3.exe -- John Morse The_Bat! 2.01.3 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (2195) AVG Anti-Virus Plugin Bayesit 0.4gm Spam Plugin [Edxor] My Favorite *NotePad* Replacement http://freezip.cjb.net/freeware Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5.2
Andrew, On 18-10-2003 10:03, you [A] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A Last time I fixed one bug which added three new; this time i fixed A those three... :) But added problems when using large fonts. Some text is not viewable and some buttons overlap. (Running 2048*1536, large fonts) Thanks for the update and keep up the good work. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.01.3 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: X-Mailer? Whats the big deal)
Hi, On Tuesday at 5:55 AM you wrote: MDP Yes - not multiple dashes - SCNR, but g ... Sorry. I had no idea. Im learning new things with TB everyday :) -- Darrin Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Dial-up Cnxn Keeps Starting
I used to have a dial-up connection and now have DSL. I kept the dial-up connection on my computer in case I ever need it for a backup. Ever since I downloaded Windows XP's SP1 and the other applicable code updates on October 15th, when I check mail for one account, that dial-up connection starts up and tries to connect. This does not happen with other accounts, just one. What could be causing this? -- JN Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dial-up Cnxn Keeps Starting
Hi Joseph, Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:43:57 [GMT -0500] (9:43 AM EDT here) you wrote: I used to have a dial-up connection and now have DSL. I kept the dial-up connection on my computer in case I ever need it for a backup. Ever since I downloaded Windows XP's SP1 and the other applicable code updates on October 15th, when I check mail for one account, that dial-up connection starts up and tries to connect. This does not happen with other accounts, just one. What could be causing this? You might want to try this: Look at your Account's Properties. Look at Network. If Use Account Specific Network Settings is checked, uncheck it. -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG (was : your signed emails)
On 10/21/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob said: you mean this : [+] GnuPG passphrase caching. The user now can select from various signing keys available. well, caching does not work and i can not select signing keys ; i get a password prompt for the one that 'belongs' to the account ... Yes, I meant that, but since I don't use GnuPG, I couldn't tell what that meant. It seemed to address your remarks. I stopped using PGP a long time ago because it was such a hassle to use. When I looked at it again about a year ago, I looked at GnuPG (I think) and OpenPGP, etc. They seemed to be just as much of a hassle as before. But the latest version of PGP from www.pgp.com seems to be much less so. I am a big proponent of no hassle since I look at so much email every day. This seems to be pretty well done. It stays out of my way, except for the first time I enter my password; I have it cached for about hours, so I really only enter it once an email session. And when I want to check a signature or whatever, it contacts the PGP Key server for me and gets the public key. I like that. Automated is good for me. I never liked having to manually distribute my key. I don't like having to ask for one before using it. I know some people will think that caching a password for 2 hours is unsecure, but I don't use this at my office, so it works just fine for me. :) -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- A day without sunshine is like, you know, night. ~Steve Martin --- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Do not send attachments not working
I have a sorting filter set up for an account that sends a message to my cell phone if I'm away from my desk (screen saver is active). This is a great filter that has allowed me to cancel one of my mobile services for notifications. But there seems to be a quirk with the filter. I use ATT Wireless, and this makes my filter somewhat easy to set up. With ATT, you can send a message as long as you want, but only the first 155 characters or so will show up. This is usually sufficient if I'm waiting on an important message and am away from my desk. Besides, I can then connect (GSM) and receive the entire e-mail if necessary. Note that this initial notification is treated as a text message (and receiving text msgs are free). So all I have to do is redirect the message to get this to work. The message is truncated automatically (though I hope to get around to making the filter process the message better and not send extraneous data). Here is the problem: In the Actions tab of the filter, I have checked Redirect the message to: and filled in my mobile phone number. Underneath that is a checkbox stating Do not send attachments I have this checked, but according to my Outbox, attachments are getting redirected anyway. I just verified this by copying the filter and modifying some things. I sent a message with an attached JPEG, and the filter redirected the message as instructed - but IGNORED the Do not send attachments setting and the attachment arrived in my Inbox from the redirect. Is this a known bug? -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error When using Scheduler (Version 2.01)
Bob, On Saturday, October 18, 2003, 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Pat, I also noticed that your signature doesn't seem to be B stripping on reply, you might be missing the space after the -- , B unless this is another Version 2 bug. Thanks for the heads-up-- don't know what happened. Hopefully it's working now... ? -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB! v2.01 on Windows XP 10/21/2003 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:your signed emails
Hello Jim, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 6:44:05 AM, you wrote: On 10/20/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jurgen Haug said: I am using GnuPG and can't find anything in the settings via GPGshell... If there isn't a specific reason you are using GPGshell, perhaps you will consider switching to PGP 8.0.2 freeware. It works like a charm in TB! and has a very friendly interface. I am especially impressed with the automated interface to the public key servers so it can look up keys automagically if I don't have them in my keyring. That's just SLICK! the only reason was that I got the idea (which might have been wrong) that the GNUpg was more up to date than the other one, OpenPGP (?). Wasn't that one 'new' only with some special builds that were not official or whatever? Well anyway. GNUpg seemed to be as capable as any other, only the installation I was warned would be more complicated. Somehow I got through that. The PGP 8.0.2 is freeware? I can only find it for 50 dollars? I haven't used PGP since v4, and this is very similar and very easy to use. I am impressed. I can also set the passphrase caching for hours so I only have to enter my passphrase once per email session. yeah I wish! -- Regards, Jurgen Housework is so wonderfully patient that it waits for you no matter HOW long you put if off. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:GnuPG (was : your signed emails)
Hello Rob, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 2:17:14 PM, you wrote: JD FYI - the release notes on 2.01.3 state that this option now works. [+] GnuPG passphrase caching. The user now can select from various signing keys available. well, caching does not work and i can not select signing keys ; i get a password prompt for the one that 'belongs' to the account ... ah finally GnuPG stopped asking me for the password :-) It works here with this new options in TB .3 -- Regards, Jurgen Blind is the one who does not want to see Using The Bat! v2.01.3 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:Version 2.01 - New Logo
Hello Thomas, Thursday, October 16, 2003, 4:17:19 AM, you wrote: Request: Is there anyone out there who is still using the 1.6x Christmas Edition and can do a screen copy of the bat with the little Santa hat ? that would be cool! If you are a member of the German TB Beginners' List, you will find the historical splash screens here: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/thebat-dt-beginner/files/Splash-Screens/ finally I got around to sign in and get those graphics :-) Thanks. The first ones are really not nice. BTW, there's a 1.49 Christmas Edition, and I remember that I had a Christmas Edition myself when I bought the license, it was 1.62. Was the logo the same, I am not sure. -- Regards, Jurgen Hey it compiles! Let's ship it! Using The Bat! v2.01.3 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hot links in To:, CC: and BCC:
Hello all, I have just noticed, I think it is something new but I don't know when or in which version this was introduced. If on the Editor window I hover the mouse over the To:, CC: or BBC: text (the text on the left of the corresponding fields) it changes colour to white to indicate it is a hot link. If any of these hot links is clicked, the E-mail Picker window is opened. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp PLAYING: Etta James - Lover Man (Oh Where Can You Be) (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Editing windows status bar bug
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 2.00.6 Serial Number 0BF3223D under Windows 98 4.10 Build A and would like to report a bug The bug description: There is a bug methinks in the message editing window. No matter the toggled position of the Ins key, the status reported at the bottom of the screen ALWAYS says Overwrite. Steps to reproduce the bug: Edit a new email message and press Ins. The status reported at the bottom of the screen never changes even though the editor DOES toggle INS + overwrite. -- Regards, rich gregory Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help, something happened to my display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Krister, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 3:57:14 AM, you wrote: KE This is one of the wonderful things with TB; in order to get things KE right with the columns, do the following: go to view|message list KE columns and hit enter. Now you're in a dialog where you from a list [SNIP] Unfortunately, the column which got resized is the account folder tree, not the message list columns. When someone sighted increased the account tree size with the mouse, my message list columns were messed up, but as you mention, that was easily fixed. Thanks, Steve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQEVAwUBP5V2Jc0Pqwc0KZlBAQGWGQgAtQHbDOdMkMEpKU4Re8PNjG+glZ6PrWUy ODUl+/Cm0OWEYYQT2e2uXJ0uPVq26ImG9WSzPi5UAtlWTKqH8H752GDHkWZuIgWT RlIV/SUYuI1CTIwvEWB9Zz1AkxA0/BPWLuAlUxE0ly3h8zzfOzqB1uxgT02p8q7R WofMBGhxcszUSLHJD9e6fXbq+nZ+nwMCTgUuG/RYibkQBmh+g3rvOimdztva9g5q Vy5pIzFGvUm4/oqrSwE6vN45BPG/GsjNZIhwh2R6CMlsv6gfcyKm+jaD93AvKOjC +CAVNmx28cTNhy+pfLK5ibS5YZjTddfweUQPZklCQnpgqkiQc/4SRg== =uD0B -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help, something happened to my display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Thomas, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 1:34:46 AM, you wrote: My question is, does anyone know what might have caused this to happen? Better yet, does anyone know how to fix this behavior from the keyboard? TF I don't know what could have caused it, sorry. Is there a way, short of reinstalling TB, to reset the tree's width to default? TF As for the width of the columns in the message list, go to the header TF of that list. I believe you have a way to right-click on it. A TF dialog will open up in which you can add/remove columns and also set TF their width. Yep, this works perfectly. I have to guess at what I think the width should be, but usually after a bit of trial and error, Ican get it. THanks, Steve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQEVAwUBP5V1SM0Pqwc0KZlBAQGR/wf/TxbI55Tinka1rK98iL2Wr+FGOM84Y1Ot 8mY4yH4783jrd0vH7r796hMHXH/4H2FfwiZz17t1yzlKgsWkEKpwK28WurEhQQ3Q nc0hBh6gTrvn+KTKetmG6D/gfcCfDZt6oFAIQoemaIETovwARreiiBNm3M7af6Qb iTHpt14CCDvzi5l0cTX1dtvDcyh+RjWPeC1Nftzb3LPOtMt9Ot5Si308Klk63o33 N7XTMZSfED68IcCG4kx7aIikoBHKtddyNIqFNxQodEUu3w9XCnhEbM3YQvkT0uIW lV1yrx0c2wrWW7LstRjb4a0CVhrZ8Um5muEcy65FKpE1j6jy+vFdDA== =Q2BO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Do not send attachments not working
Hi The_Bat! Users, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 11:49:21 AM, you wrote: kg I have a sorting filter set up for an account that sends a message to my kg cell phone if I'm away from my desk (screen saver is active). This is a kg great filter that has allowed me to cancel one of my mobile services for kg notifications. Are you serious... you can really create a filter to call a phone number when a new message arrives? Tell me more! -- Regards, John My Public PGP Key Can Be Found Here http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/pgp.html Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Wrong characterset?
Hi Bat Users, Can you help me. Everytime I od someting like cant it looks fine when I send it but there will be a charater like when I see a reply on that msg. Does that have to do anything with my choice of charaterset? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To score consistently, a golfer must think consistently. A sound, consistent pre-shot routine makes it easier. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP and filters
I've been playing around with TB's IMAP a little bit, and find the most annoying thing about it to be the lack of ability to filter messages. Automatic filtering doesn't work, and when I 're-filter' a folder, all my messages just disappear. Not good, to say the least. Scanning the various archives I can see that others have the same problem. Has anyone gotten filters to work with IMAP, and if so, how? -- Sean H. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hot links in To:, CC: and BCC:
Hi MAU Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 1:47:50 PM, you wrote: M If on the Editor window I hover the mouse over the To:, CC: or BBC: text M (the text on the left of the corresponding fields) it changes colour to M white to indicate it is a hot link. If any of these hot links is M clicked, the E-mail Picker window is opened. Only works for CC and BCC for me. To changes color in the same way but clicking does nothing. Nice touch. Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wrong characterset?
Hi Gerard,
on Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:04:33 +0200GMT (21.10.03, 21:04 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
G Can you help me. Everytime I od someting like cant it looks fine when
G I send it but there will be a charater like when I see a reply on that msg.
G Does that have to do anything with my choice of charaterset?
I'm not sure about the char set - maybe. What I observed is that the
char appears here when people use the accent aigu char () instead of
the apostrophe ('). They look similar but behave differently.
--
Cheers
Peter
Black Holes were created when God divided by zero.
Winamp currently playing: Shastro - The Diamond And The Lotus
pgp0.pgp
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Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information:
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Edit Messages with External Editor
Hello The_Bat! Users, I am having trouble getting the Edit Messages with External Editor to work... I can get the Export filter to work, it will open the file with the message. but how do i get it back into the_bat? Here is what I have: BeginFilter Name: Export for editing Active: 1 Source: \\Semo\Inbox Target: \\Semo\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40'e' Actions: faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix,faoHotKeyOnly AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: C:\editplus\editplus.exe C:\Documents and Settings\John Morse\Local Settings\Temp\edit.txt ExtFile: C:\Documents and Settings\John Morse\Local Settings\Temp\edit.txt ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49221 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter BeginFilter Name: Import after editing Active: 0 Source: \\Semo\Inbox Target: \\Semo\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40'e' Actions: faExternal,faoRunDetached,faoManualOnly,faoWaitCompletion,faoHotKey,faoHotKeyOnly AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\import.bat ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49225 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter Here is the Batch file I created and saved in the_bat directory C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /IMPORTF=Imports;X;IN=C:\Documents and Settings\John Morse\Local Settings\Temp\edit.txt;R -- John Morse The_Bat! 2.01.3 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (2195) AVG Anti-Virus Plugin Bayesit 0.4gm Spam Plugin [WordWeb] Thesaurus/dictionary, word and anagram finder http://wordweb.info/users Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Do not send attachments not working
Are you serious... you can really create a filter to call a phone number when a new message arrives? Tell me more! Most likely it's a filter that sends an email out to a phone. There are several such services around. You send an email to an address and that gets translated to a text (SMS) message to one's phone. -- Ravi (http://shell-shocked.org) Running The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Charlie was a Chemist, but Charlie is no more. What Charlie thought was H20 was H2SO4. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01.00 Release (PGP)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John, On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RW And I've signed this one. Just had a look at your PGP key and imported RW but I suppose I now need your private key. I'm getting there. No, you don't need my private key, that is only for me... just as your private key is only for you. All you will need is my Public key to send me an encrypted message. I've got that and I've now posted mine to : http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE Thanks for all your help and I really think I'm getting there. If this message is signed I'll even have got my templates working properly! - -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.01.3 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP5WSKBqZtcDKk7W+EQI44QCgrVCm+FfO+Pfsnie9xWR7Wqe7MMwAn0/P /TbwS99GYeMB51k5SDTbkFoT =kxpW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:GnuPG (was : your signed emails)
Hi Jurgen, on Tue, 21 Oct 2003, at 19:02:34 local time (GMT +0200), you wrote: JH ah finally GnuPG stopped asking me for the password :-) It works JH here with this new options in TB .3 i still get a passphrase promp for every message i sign, despite the 30 min. caching i specified ... and only for the key with the same e-mail address that belongs to the account i'm in, no choice. when i'm in an account where there's no signing-key with the same e-mail address, i even get prompted for a non-existing key ?!?! -- Rob using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 ~ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wrong characterset?
ON Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 9:38:11 PM, you wrote:
PM I'm not sure about the char set - maybe. What I observed is that the
PM char appears here when people use the accent aigu char () instead of
PM the apostrophe ('). They look similar but behave differently.
Hi Peter,
I will keep that in mind, although the spellchecker most of the times
will correct me if I use the wrong one and I still get this starnge
char. returned.
--
Best regards,
Gerard
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play. But what sort of a life companion would a tennis player be? ==P.G
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Re: Editing windows status bar bug
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 1:59:06 PM, rich gregory wrote in the message Editing windows status bar bug mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm using The Bat! Version 2.00.6 The bug description: There is a bug methinks in the message editing window. No matter the toggled position of the Ins key, the status reported at the bottom of the screen ALWAYS says Overwrite. Steps to reproduce the bug: Edit a new email message and press Ins. The status reported at the bottom of the screen never changes even though the editor DOES toggle INS + overwrite. Not confirmed on using The Bat! v2.01.03 on Windows XP -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edit Messages with External Editor
Hallo John, On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:48:13 -0500GMT (21-10-03, 21:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM Edit Messages with External Editor JM to work... I can get the Export filter to work, JM it will open the file with the message. JM but how do i get it back into the_bat? JM ExtCmd: C:\editplus\editplus.exe C:\Documents and Put this external command as the first line in your batch file (import.bat) and set that batch file as external command in the first filter. Delete the second filter. Now the first filter should take care of everything. This presumes that editplus keeps the batch file from continuing until editplus is closed. JM Here is the Batch file I created and saved in the_bat directory JM C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe JM /IMPORTF=Imports;X;IN=C:\Documents and Settings\John Morse\Local JM Settings\Temp\edit.txt;R This command should be the second command in your batch file, after the editplus part -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01.00 Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Richard, On Oct 21, 2003, 21:08 +0100 ( 4:08 PM here), Richard Wakeford [RW] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RW Thanks for all your help and I really think I'm getting there. If RW this message is signed I'll even have got my templates working RW properly! Looks good over here, Richard. gpg: Signature made 10/21/03 16:08:08 Eastern Daylight Time using DSA key ID CA93B5BE gpg: Good signature from Richard Wakeford [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: aka [jpeg image of size 5290] - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.01.3 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/lZ+qRbTFvUNHmLkRAmN8AJ9ZCuBlMQx3DQifnZ9GCQId0WmfiwCfTvOg /e6k4xZqHtl9Eya/dpr6S0s= =Ri13 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Do not send attachments not working
John Morse wrote: Are you serious... you can really create a filter to call a phone number when a new message arrives? Tell me more! :) Yeah, it's pretty cool. And simple too! Note that I am utilizing text messaging service provided by my wireless carrier (mine is ATT Wireless). I can send an e-mail to: my wireless number@mobile.att.net and the message will go to my phone as a text message. This varies from provider to provider - ATT charges for *sending* text messages, but doesn't charge for *receiving* them, so this suits me especially well. Also, the way that ATT handles text messages is well-suited to my ham-fisted approach. I think other providers may balk at large messages or messages with attachments. But this could be addressed in the filter within TB. So for me, it's a simple filter that redirects all mail sent to my business account to my wireless number@mobile.att.net - a redirect send a copy, by the way, so the message still goes to my Inbox. I set this filter to be active only when the screen saver is on (great flexibility of the bat!) and this has worked beautifully for some time now. The only problem is as I described - that is the Don't send attachments option does not appear to work. If this is truly a bug, then it may prevent some people from using a filter like this - I seem to recall some of the other wireless providers do balk at attachments being sent as a text message. Anyway, this filter alone has created a number of oohs and ahhs from business associates (which helps combat the effect of my boorish personality). I do also subscribe to a data plan with ATT GPRS/GSM service so that I can log on with my phone and get the entire e-mail if necessary (or with my Palm Tungsten) --- geek alert! To be honest, I would say that upwards of 75-80% of the time, just getting the text message is enough, which gives me the first 155 characters of a message. Of course, this does bring up the whole top posting/bottom posting issue If someone bottom posts (who in the world would do *that*?!) then you will still get notified they sent you a response, but you won't be able read the message. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing windows status bar bug
Hello rich, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 12:59:06 PM, rich gregory wrote: There is a bug methinks in the message editing window. No matter the toggled position of the Ins key, the status reported at the bottom of the screen ALWAYS says Overwrite. CONFIRMED that the toggle does not update in the status bar but only when using Options - Message Format Plain Text (Windows) (in my case it always shows Insert) the other 3 settings show the toggle state properly. -- Best regards, Lourdes The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing windows status bar bug
On 10/21/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] rich gregory said: Steps to reproduce the bug: Edit a new email message and press Ins. The status reported at the bottom of the screen never changes even though the editor DOES toggle INS + overwrite. On mine, the To: CC: Subject: fields do not allow OVERWRITE, but the body switches back and forth just fine. -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. --Terry Pratchett, Jingo --- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edit Messages with External Editor
Hi The_Bat! Users, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 2:48:13 PM, you wrote: JM I am having trouble getting the JM Edit Messages with External Editor Never mind, I just got the msg and header editor from R Anson and R Otten working perfectly!! -- Regards, John Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and filters
Sean H . wrote: Has anyone gotten filters to work with IMAP, and if so, how? I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that *no* filters work for you at all? Or only certain filters? I am using v1.62, which is limited in IMAP functionality compared to v2, but I am able to use filters with IMAP accounts. Can you describe the specific filters that aren't working? AFAIK, the only filter limitation with IMAP is Selective Download. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: your signed emails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jurgen, On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The PGP 8.0.2 is freeware? I can only find it for 50 dollars? No it is free. I made the same mistake. When you install it you just click on register later and that's it, free forever. Try it and, as I've found out in the last couple of days, it really is very easy to use. - -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.01.3 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP5WwyxqZtcDKk7W+EQLqzACgoQxG82qzWNFkDD0EDB4zjbsHGRwAn3Sc m4r9KnV2qeFHNB/M/U/zXuOL =qqgM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and filters
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, Sean H. wrote... I've been playing around with TB's IMAP a little bit, and find the most annoying thing about it to be the lack of ability to filter messages. Automatic filtering doesn't work, and when I 're-filter' a folder, all my messages just disappear. Not good, to say the least. I think the filters stuff is on the works of a rewrite, this is probably to account for the new IMAP protocol support, and some newer features. I'm finding it awfully frustrating that I cannot filter mail, so you're not the only one. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Truly yours truly, Department of Redundancy Department. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: your signed emails
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 1:00:40 PM, Jurgen Haug wrote in the message your signed emails mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: The PGP 8.0.2 is freeware? I can only find it for 50 dollars? Free download for personal use at: http://www.pgp.com/products/freeware.html -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help, something happened to my display
On Monday, October 20, 2003, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote... According to someone sighted who just happened to be here at the time, the column in which the folders were listed had somehow minimized. With the mouse, she was able to drag the column over to the right thereby enlarging it and, as can be expected, my folder names now appear fine. Unfortunately, my display columns are now messed up i.e. subject field is getting cut off. My question is, does anyone know what might have caused this to happen? Better yet, does anyone know how to fix this behavior from the keyboard? I get things like this happening to me from time to time when switching screen resolutions (I often use RDP from my linux machine to do work on my windows machine in the other room). When I do this, returning to the windows machine results in some oddities such as the message preview portion being about 2 lines high. As somebody has already suggested, a good backup... but not of the application itself, but a set of registry keys. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT If you backup that whole tree once you have TB set how you want (exclude Users Depot as it contains information about account names and what not, which isn't really vital to the display of TB, but should be included in a normal backup), you can export the whole branch to a .reg file, and any time something goes amiss, just close The Bat, run the reg file, and it should fix all the details for you. This will probably be a little safer than doing a restore of the whole The Bat! tree when all you need are some basic settings ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Best file compression around: DEL *.* = 100% compression. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
On Monday, October 20, 2003, Melissa Reese wrote... I just installed v2.01.3, and now there is an option under Options/Preferences/General to enable the X-Mailer header. The default now is to have the header disabled. It's really unfortunate that this had to be fixed by those not at all at fault here. Is there anything we can do to help shutdown the original spammer/software that started this whole mess? Unfortunately I doubt it, if anything was attempted, they would probably be able to get away on a technicality on what the software is designed to do, and not what the software is being used to. After all, software writers cannot always be held accountable for the software they write if done in good intentions. For example, they could claim that the software was originally designed to be used to send mail to willing participants. Unless you can prove otherwise, the software is just being miss-used (just like TB could be with the mass-mailer option). -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Code so clean...you can eat off it. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AntiVir Plugin ?
Hello The_Bat! Users, Does anyone know where I can get a new AntiVir Plugin that will work with The Bat! (2.01.3) -- John Morse The_Bat! 2.01.3 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (2195) AVG Anti-Virus Plugin Bayesit 0.4gm Spam Plugin [ieSpell] Spell Check (Text Input Boxes) On A Webpage http://www.iespell.com Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account glyph change?
Hello Pixie, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 5:47:32 PM, you wrote: Well I decided after skipping v2.01 to install the latest release. Aside from the new logo the first thing I noticed was that all my account icons that used to be mailboxes are now @ glyphs -- black for no unread and blue for unread mail within. Yes I noticed the same thing... only @ signs... no little mailboxes like there used to be. -- Best regards, Jimmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and filters
On 10/21/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ken green said: I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that *no* filters work for you at all? Or only certain filters? I am using v1.62, which is limited in IMAP functionality compared to v2, but I am able to use filters with IMAP accounts. I beg to differ. What you are effectively doing is popping your IMAP account and filtering email in local folders. It's not really IMAP because mail on the server stays in the Inbox. You just move it around in your local folders. Can you describe the specific filters that aren't working? AFAIK, the only filter limitation with IMAP is Selective Download. I got excited about IMAP in v2.0, I stopped using IMAP, because it still has problems with managing folders and filtering email. But it's much better than in 1.62, so I am hopeful that by 2.5 or 3.0, we'll have it 100% right! :p -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- Only one shopping day left until tomorrow! --- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AntiVir Plugin ?
Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 2:51:56 PM, John wrote: John, JM Does anyone know where I can get a new AntiVir Plugin JM that will work with The Bat! (2.01.3) AVG is not working in the new release? Which AVG do you use: 6 free or 7 pro? I have a small issue with 7 pro as of the last update the tray icon is grayed and the control app says the email scanner isn't fully functional. But it just quarantined another Swen just 2 minutes ago. -- Neal Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AntiVir Plugin ?
On 10/21/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John Morse said: Hello The_Bat! Users, Does anyone know where I can get a new AntiVir Plugin that will work with The Bat! (2.01.3) What's wrong with what you have installed now? (AVG Anti-Virus Plugin) -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. (Henry Kissinger) --- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2.01.00 Release (PGP)
rg On my copy of TB! (2.00.6) Server | Send to is NOT rg available under the key manager, or any other option, in Tools | rg PGP JM Don't look for Tools, just open the key manager and then server|send JM to. Here is a screenshot JM http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/pgp_screenshot.gif How did you get to that PGPkeys window in the first place? -- Rich Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgraded to v2 and property pages vanished
Hello TBUDL, I just had a bit of a surprise after upgrading TB! from 1.62r to Ver.2.01.3. If you happen to have more than one folder named 'Inbox' in your account tree you'll probably know what I mean already. My account tree is structured so that all incoming messages are filtered into various folders under a single account. This saves actually having multiple accounts in TB! of course. I can do this (like others do) as I run a mail server (Mercury) on another PC so collect all my mail from Mercury/32 into one TB! account. So, my account tree would be somthing like this, as an example: My Account --Inbox (folder) --Sent (folder) --Trash (folder) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (folder) --Inbox (child folder) --Read (child folder) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (folder) --Inbox (child folder) --Read (child folder) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (folder) --Inbox (child folder) --Read (child folder) etc. and then a shed load of other folders underneath that messages are also filtered into. I have filters set up that move mail into the correct folders, so anything at domain.com gets moved to the related @domain folder's Inbox. Well the Inbox was a normal folder with the usual property pages before upgrading to V2. But after the upgrade the properties pages vanished, with all the templates. However, the templates that I set up for the folder before the upgrade are still active but there is no way to get rid of them as there aren't any property pages :-/. So any folder named Inbox before the upgrade becomes a TB! folder without properties pages afterwards. How the heck do I sort this out? If I right-click on the folder 'Inbox' and create new message I get a email using the template from the original folder before the upgrade and I can't get rid of it. Any ideas? Please? -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #1469. Awl Squid Myers Or ¶ Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and filters
Jim D wrote: I beg to differ. What you are effectively doing is popping your IMAP account and filtering email in local folders. It's not really IMAP because mail on the server stays in the Inbox. You just move it around in your local folders. Ahh.. yes, you are correct. When I think of *filters* I think of what TB does to a particular message (in the context of my installation - locally). What you are describing I would call folder management and/or server-side filters. My misunderstanding. I got excited about IMAP in v2.0, I stopped using IMAP, because it still has problems with managing folders and filtering email. But it's much better than in 1.62, so I am hopeful that by 2.5 or 3.0, we'll have it 100% right! :p Without starting a huge debate, can some people weigh in on what the pros and cons are for IMAP? I understand the protocol a bit, and can see the benefit of the travelling person (managing messages on the server). But what does IMAP offer that cannot be done in The Bat with Dispatcher - even with POP accounts? Maybe a better question is what is on the horizon for TB - that is, what is The Bat *close to* being able to do that cannot be done w/ Dispatcher? I've gone back and forth - it ultimately doesn't matter much to me. When I access my mailboxes remotely, I use a web interface or some other mobile means (geek) and I have those methods set to use IMAP. I understand POP can get messy if accessed from multiple machines, leaving copies on the server (ex: duplicate messages). But if only one access point in POP and the rest are IMAP, then things should be OK. At least this is what I've been told... :) The problem I have with TB's 1.62 IMAP is that it will only download untouched (unread) messages. I actually lost some important e-mail this way. I had accessed my mail with my phone and when I returned, it appeared that all my messages had been downloaded, so I deleted everything off the server. When I went to look for a specific message I read on my phone it was nowhere to be found! I don't think POP accounts behave this way, but I could be wrong. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AntiVir Plugin ?
Hi, On Tuesday at 3:51 PM you wrote: JM Hello The_Bat! Users, JM Does anyone know where I can get a new AntiVir Plugin JM that will work with The Bat! (2.01.3) I have Norton AV 2004 and it scans incoming and outgoing emails just fine -- Darrin Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Do not send attachments not working
Hello ken, On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:27:41 -0500 GMT (22/10/2003, 04:27 +0700 GMT), ken green wrote: :) Yeah, it's pretty cool. And simple too! Note that I am utilizing text messaging service provided by my wireless carrier (mine is ATT Wireless). I can send an e-mail to: my wireless number@mobile.att.net and the message will go to my phone as a text message. I had an email-address for my cell phone for a while, but Svetlana from Russia kept sending me her love at 3am - especially when I was travelling abroad, so I had to pay the internationla roaming fee in addition to having been woken up. :-( No more email to my cell phone! I set this filter to be active only when the screen saver is on (great flexibility of the bat!) and this has worked beautifully for some time now. The only problem is as I described - that is the Don't send attachments option does not appear to work. If this is truly a bug, then it may prevent some people from using a filter like this This has actually nothing to do with whether you redirect to a cell phone or any other email account - I shall run some tests later today. Of course, this does bring up the whole top posting/bottom posting issue If someone bottom posts (who in the world would do *that*?!) then you will still get notified they sent you a response, but you won't be able read the message. As was said before, different environments call for different behaviours... ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: When a person is knocked unconscious by a blow to the head, they will never suffer a concussion or brain damage. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - New Logo
Hello Jurgen, On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:22:05 +0200 GMT (22/10/2003, 00:22 +0700 GMT), Jurgen Haug wrote: finally I got around to sign in and get those graphics :-) Thanks. The first ones are really not nice. BTW, there's a 1.49 Christmas Edition, and I remember that I had a Christmas Edition myself when I bought the license, it was 1.62. Was the logo the same, I am not sure. I don't know about that. Andreas is the logo-freak, but he is not on this list here. But since you are now subscribed to DE-Beginner, you can ask there.;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Hellenolophobie: Angst vor griechischen Fachausdruecken. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help, something happened to my display
Hello Steve, On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:05:01 -0400 GMT (22/10/2003, 01:05 +0700 GMT), Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: Is there a way, short of reinstalling TB, to reset the tree's width to default? I would think that involves a registry hack. But I don't know what width is default, anyway. Sorry I cannot help. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I live in my own little world, but it's ok, they know me here. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Question about PGP plugin
I'm re-sending this as I didn't see it posted the first time. I appologize if this message somehow winds up being duplicated. Steve This is a forwarded message From: Steve M. Sawczyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 20, 2003, 3:25:40 PM Subject: Question about PGP plugin ===8==Original message text=== -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, PGP has an option to force an encrypted message to be viewable only within the PGP viewer. From within Outlook, it's possible to get an options dialog containing this option by holding the shift key while clicking on send. Is there a way to get the same options dialog when sending from TB? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Steve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQEVAwUBP5Q2uc0Pqwc0KZlBAQHllQgArSOHYa16JgS5GUW2sZTaoGAWQIa1Uitq 0W5h4Gl7BSAJ34tH6CME+GmopnCN97tIcMgXvrRBAvyHjgQFyXRzNQmIksr6PJYd hIYce9CsjtOy91qj3zWji1TGybivcFzdkq+p7DAG1APgbYGUfysRnU6mYVeqDW5J 86Q8pfvvYavYafRLVCJNhqJ0VKztSyKi79zyBUgiRkW5c1duYHpJ2fZmiEZi85jx j7Rp22toxCKGhUfHxFmm7qAn2/47AurUuZT9izkJL/rAs26GtVjdFBh8YQJ1cFth ysXGbyzLxFiFlP5ZG6+4+KlKQMXEQ9fdvCT0bt7gaj6+yHwoLPTixQ== =mRWr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ===8===End of original message text=== -- Best regards, Stevemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AntiVir Plugin ?
On 10/21/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Neal Laugman said: Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 2:51:56 PM, John wrote: John, JM Does anyone know where I can get a new AntiVir Plugin JM that will work with The Bat! (2.01.3) AVG is not working in the new release? My AVG Freeware seems to be working just peachy. -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- When someone asks you, A penny for your thoughts and you put your two cents in...what happens to the other penny? --- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01.00 Release (PGP)
Hi The_Bat! Users, ,--- ( Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - rich gregory Wrote ) | rg How did you get to that PGPkeys window in the first place? `--- Tools | OpenPGP | Open PGP Key Manager Here is a screenshot for this: http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/pgp_key_manager.gif -- Regards, John Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AntiVir Plugin ?
Hi The_Bat! Users, ,--- ( Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - Jim D Wrote ) | What's wrong with what you have installed now? (AVG Anti-Virus | Plugin) `--- Whoops! I know my previous signature had AVG in it, but I don't use that anymore. I use AntiVir http://www.free-av.com Thats why I was wanting a plug-in for it. -- Regards, John Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AntiVir Plugin ?
Hi The_Bat! Users, ,--- ( Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - Neal Laugman Wrote ) | AVG is not working in the new release? Which AVG do you use: 6 free or | 7 pro? I have a small issue with 7 pro as of the last update the tray | icon is grayed and the control app says the email scanner isn't fully | functional. But it just quarantined another Swen just 2 minutes ago. `--- Actually, I quit using AVG PRO 7... I'm now using the most updated Antivirus software known to man AntiVir http://www.free-av.com -- Regards, John Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: 2.01.00 Release (PGP)
rg ... Server | Send to is NOT rg available under the key manager, or any other option, in Tools | rg PGP JM Don't look for Tools, just open the key manager and then server|send JM to. Here is a screenshot JM http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/pgp_screenshot.gif rg How did you get to that PGPkeys window in the first place? JM Tools | OpenPGP | Open PGP Key Manager JM Here is a screenshot for this: JM http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/pgp_key_manager.gif But you just told me NOT to go in thru Tools | PGP!!! Anyway, maybe this will help... My PGP mgr is different than yours. http://mudshark.com/pgp-mgr-diff.gif -- Rich Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Undo or retrieving deletes
Hi all, I just wrote a long reply and then deleted the whole thing accidentally when trying to trim the earlier parts. To my dismay there is no undo command -- an almost-necessity for people like me. Is there a way to undo I may not have found, or a way to retrieve the trashed message?? Failing that, can you direct me to some kind of auto-save function? Sigh. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB! v2.01 on Windows XP Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AntiVir Plugin ?
Hello Darrin, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 9:53:41 PM, Darrin wrote: D I have Norton AV 2004 and it scans incoming and outgoing emails just D fine Sounds like you're a happy user of pop3 and smtp. Unfortunately it won't touch pop3-ssl, imap or imap-ssl. :( -- Best regards, Lourdes The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
offline mode ?
Hi Fellow Batty Ones, Can anyone suggest a way that I can easily turn off all mail polling (and then back on again). I have an ADSL connection, but spend time running a VPN DialUp Networking adapter. When I load this VPN layer, all my traffic gets directed to my work network, so I can see my ISP email. I would swap between VPN and the net many times each day. At the moment I leave TB! running and just get timeouts on all my email accounts. I disabled the beeping as it was driving me crazy. So is there a feature somewhere that might allow polling to be turned off and on easily. I don't want to go into each account and change the settings each time - yuk -- Best regards, davidp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.22 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Another PGP upload question
I tried uploading my public PGP key to a server without using the built-in function in The Bat!. I pasted ALL of the key (including the begin key and end key delimiter lines) into the text input box at http://pgp.mit.edu. I got a message back as follows: Key block in add request contained no new keys, userid's, or signatures. Does this mean my earlier (I thought failed) attempt at uploading my key worked? -- Rich Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undo or retrieving deletes
PJ is no undo command -- an almost-necessity for people like me. Is PJ there a way to undo I may not have found, or a way to retrieve the As in most (?) Windows prgms: Undo CTRL-Z, redo CTRL-Y -- Rich Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undo or retrieving deletes
Hi all, I just wrote a long reply and then deleted the whole thing accidentally when trying to trim the earlier parts. To my dismay there is no undo command -- an almost-necessity for people like me. Is there a way to undo I may not have found, or a way to retrieve the trashed message?? CTRL Z is a standard UNDO function, but if you have told it not to save the message, or you saved it, then deleted it, you may be able to look in the outbox folder, select Folders, and Browser Deleted Messages. You may be able to undelete the message from there (that is if you haven't run a purge of the folder. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
