RE:Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'
Hello Joseph, Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 2:06:17 AM, you wrote: I've started using one of those password generators on occasion, because I've about used up all the cute ones I can remember. But now I need a place to store them, since there's no mnemonic to keep them in mind. But, of course, the place to store them needs to be encrypted and passworded, so I need a password for that :-) did you try this one? http://www.tranglos.com/free/oubliette.html -- Regards, Jurgen Housework is so wonderfully patient that it waits for you no matter HOW long you put if off. Using The Bat! v2.01.7 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP - Checking Signature
ON Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 2:15:53 AM, you wrote: P So view-character sets- .. in addition to how you see the messages P locally (?) also dictates the character set you're sending? Apparently it is. It is something new everyday with TB! :-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= People by and large become what they think about themselves. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Vishal, On 28 October 2003, 22:47 -0500 (28/10/2003 03:47 local time) Vishal [V] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: V I'm not sure what your point here is..did I miss something in the discussion? Yes, I think so... MW Still more probable than a complete stranger sitting in front of my PC MW and reeking havoc with his hex editor. (assuming he can log on and MW access my folders) I think someone would notice that! :-) V This is actually completely unnecessary if this stranger somehow manages to V install a trojan on your machine remotely. And again. :-) - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.01.7 | BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP54pV1v+PP8p0/caEQJDOgCeIYWdoQvWv4snnyM0vIMs/UH4AXgAoNo7 H5mqfmivhKmyqwR04X8dwy+b =N44b -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: any IMAP users here ??
So i looked in the TB directory for the server and noticed a .tbb (.tbi ?) file that is already over 40 Mb after an hour of use !! Same here. I noticed sometimes when I tried to access my IMAP inbox that TB would freeze up for about 30 seconds. Perhaps it had something to do with creating that file. For the moment, I've switched to POP3. I'll try IMAP again in the next release or two. -- Ravi (http://shell-shocked.org) Running The Bat! 2.01.7 on Windows XP Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: : Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!' (slightly OT)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Neal, On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:36:21 -0900 your time, you said: NL Also their is PINS: Yes, as a user of PINS I can say that it is very good. I've been using it for quite some time now. Apart from the usual features, including password generation, and expiry reminders, PINS also enables you to set up quick macros related to web logins/forms that are activated using global hotkeys. I find this very useful indeed. And of course the program doesn't need to be installed, so can be stored and run from on a removable device, like a CF card, and then carried away with you when you walk away from your computer. Small and very useful...and free. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #1666. Ma Qed I Slur So Wry ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 iQA/AwUBP54xlJJmyHDfgGLBEQKSHACg5uNRuSDGvCTh7vpbnQaz6lYwUI0AoLXO SuBHsaRFzd3pkUFRYq689Nc9 =H/Q/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading from 1.62 to 2.01.3
Hi Wayne, @27-Oct-2003, 11:54 -0500 (16:54 UK time) Wayne Howard [WH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: WH I am finally ready to give the new version a try. What is the WH best way to proceed? WH 1) Backup first WH 2) Install the new without uninstalling the old? WH 3) Uninstall the old and restore the backup? 1 *and* 2 but not 3. WH 4) Anything else I should consider? The new version will not recognise the old key and will immediate become a 30 day evaluation version. Any IMAP accounts should be switched to POP3 under 1.6 and created from scratch as IMAP on v2. QTs will have to be upgraded to v2 versions. There are some subtle changes in the way they work. %COMMENT is no longer viable as a pseudo variable because there are real variables available. Marcos that rely on %TO or %ABTOxxx will have to be replaced by %OFROM and %ABOFROMxxx type references. That's all I can think of. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v2.01.12 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading from 1.62 to 2.01.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Wayne, On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:54:27 -0500 your time, you said: WH 4) Anything else I should consider? If you have any folders that *you* named Inbox or Sent - other than the TB! account folders - rename them to something else before upgrading. You will encounter some problems if you don't. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #1435. Awl Qed Rio My Russ ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 iQA/AwUBP55Dg5JmyHDfgGLBEQIofgCcCIE+yjZG0yu51e3yTyxg8OgSMb8AoI8T ckH6tAxoMqYxH5YG1cQ52srX =2HVH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard navigation scheduler
Allen, On 23-10-2003 11:03, you [A] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A 10/22/2003, 5:26 AM: Peter said in Keyboard navigation scheduler PF For example, in previous versions I had TB set up to move to next PF unread message when i hit ( ' ) A Hmn, you're right . . . if you configure it to move to the next unread A on pressing ( ' ), nothing happens unless you are in the message list A pane. However, configured to use ctrl+alt+right as the shortcut key it A moves on to the next unread message without regard to what pane you are A in. Sorry, for some reason I missed your reply. A bug, then? I think it should be possible, PF Same with navigating between the 3 panes. Before this could be done PF with TAB or SHIFT+TAB. Now, it does not always work. (Disclaimer: I PF have just tried it in 2.01.3 and here it seems to work). A On my 2.01.3 I have no trouble with this -- it navigates among panes as A expected. Yeah, here it does, too. Except then you have clicked on a URL and sort of selected a part of the message. Then it doesn't work - which is fairly OK. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.01.3 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'
Hello Steve, Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 1:51:59 AM, you wrote: ST Hello Joseph, ST Monday, October 27, 2003, 5:06:17 PM, you wrote: JN But now I JN need a place to store them, since there's no mnemonic to keep them in JN mind. But, of course, the place to store them needs to be encrypted JN and passworded, so I need a password for that :-) ST I manage a ton of passwords, not only for myself, but for my clients ST as well. I use a product called SplashID from www.splasdata.com. It ST operates on both my desktop and my Palm so I always have the data ST available, and yes, you do need to remember that ONE password. I had to add an h to your url.Should read www.splashdata.com -- Best regards, Barry Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't get the Scheduler to work
Hello all, I never used or tested the Scheduler thoroughly but I did test it a few weeks ago and it seemed to work, even opening some e-mail message for reply. However, I now can't set up even a simple reminder to remind me of something a few minutes from now. Well, I can set it up but no action or warning takes place at the specified time. Can someone give me the steps to set up a simple reminder 5 minutes from now, to see if I can get it to work? TIA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry
On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 01:06:12, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: I tend to add multiple address book entries for this kind of use and use Ctrl-Plus to get to them via auto complete. It's easier. RK So there's no other way to use the mail addresses entered in the RK field? Yes - see my reply to Nick Andriash about using the Address Picker features. Marck, MAU and others, thanks for the help! :-) Roman -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany A man in general is better pleased when he has a good dinner than when his wife talks Greek. -- Samuel Johnson Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'
Hello Barry, Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 2:44:12 AM, you wrote: B I had to add an h to your url.Should read www.splashdata.com Ooops! Thanks for catching that! -- Best regards, Stevemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Archiving (was too many mails)
Hi Martin, On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, at 22:03:21 [GMT +] (which was 23:03 where I live) you wrote: MW To continue the example, I keep messages in my TBUDL folder for 90 days MW before they are moved to the corresponding archive folder. To do this MW check the following in the Account Properties - General tab: MW - - Keep messages in the base for (days) e.g. 90 MW - - Remove old messages MW And on the Deletion tab: MW - - Use folder-specific deletion settings MW - - Move to the specified folder (under Alternative deletion) e.g. MW Archive\Mailing lists\TBUDL MW - - Use alternative deletion for purging this folder MW With these settings old messages are automatically archived when you MW exit the program or use Shift+Delete. Thank you for the detailed explanation. I have set up this now exactly as you described. -- Best regards, Gerritmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Archiving (was too many mails)
Hi Edgar, On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, at 22:14:11 [GMT +0100] (which was 22:14 where I live) you wrote: E Did you first create the common folder? Not at first. Now i have and uses the solution from Martin. -- Best regards, Gerritmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving (was too many mails)
ON Monday, October 27, 2003, 11:03:21 PM, you wrote: MW - - Keep messages in the base for (days) e.g. 90 MW - - Remove old messages MW And on the Deletion tab: MW - - Use folder-specific deletion settings MW - - Move to the specified folder (under Alternative deletion) e.g. MW Archive\Mailing lists\TBUDL MW - - Use alternative deletion for purging this folder MW With these settings old messages are automatically archived when you MW exit the program or use Shift+Delete. Hi Martin, How do you then access this archive? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You don't know what pressure is until you play for 5 bucks with only 2 bucks in your pocket. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'
Hi Martin Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 3:31:13 AM, you wrote: V I'm not sure what your point here is..did I miss something in the discussion? MW Yes, I think so... How? I read the whole thread. Were you talking about the repair scenario? MW Still more probable than a complete stranger sitting in front of my PC MW and reeking havoc with his hex editor. (assuming he can log on and MW access my folders) I think someone would notice that! :-) V This is actually completely unnecessary if this stranger somehow manages to V install a trojan on your machine remotely. MW And again. :-) No, I don't think I missed anything here. You and others seemed to imply that reading those plaintext passwords was only possible if someone had physical access. Either when he sat down at your machine to carry out the exploits mentioned in the article, or when you gave your hard disk out for repair. This isn't necessary. Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
Hello Douglas, On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:47:47 -0600 GMT (28/10/2003, 09:47 +0700 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: MW 1.63 allows for the use of plugins, What kind of plugins? Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus. Nothing I personally use. MW That's about it, except for some SmartBat / scheduling features. New Options / Preferences dialog, and Maintainance Center. I like it. MW The folder and file formats are the same and you shouldn't have MW any trouble switching back and forth. Does that hold true for 1.62, 1.63 v. 2? No. The folder structure was changed during the 1.63 beta series, so if you change anything in v2 and then go back to 1.62, the change will not be reflected. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. BROT trocknet nicht so rasch aus, wenn man es stets in einem Eimer mit Wasser lagert. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My cable is floopy tonight-now PGP verified?
Hello Paul, On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:42:49 -0500 GMT (28/10/2003, 02:42 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: OOOooh, so I at least need to check it the first time I open it. It didn't register with me that to verify it at least ONCE I need to click on the question mark. Have you EVER had a signed message that was NOT verified??? I haven't signed a message that wasn't verified - but I have received messages where the signature wasn't verified when I checked it. That was because a mail server en route changed something... so far no secret service tampering. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. - MAN WANTED TO WORK IN DYNAMITE FACTORY. MUST BE WILLING TO TRAVEL. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Vishal, On 28 October 2003, 09:19 -0500 ( 14:19 local time) Vishal [V] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: V I'm not sure what your point here is..did I miss something in the discussion? MW Yes, I think so... V How? I read the whole thread. Were you talking about the repair scenario? Yes. If someone has concerns about passwords being compromised while the PC is repaired the simple solution is to change them beforehand. If that isn't possible then change them when it's returned. MW Still more probable than a complete stranger sitting in front of my PC MW and reeking havoc with his hex editor. (assuming he can log on and MW access my folders) I think someone would notice that! :-) V This is actually completely unnecessary if this stranger somehow manages to V install a trojan on your machine remotely. MW And again. :-) V No, I don't think I missed anything here. You and others seemed to imply that V reading those plaintext passwords was only possible if someone had physical V access. Either when he sat down at your machine to carry out the exploits V mentioned in the article, or when you gave your hard disk out for repair. This V isn't necessary. That's because the original text (http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-October/012716.html) refers to someone hacking passwords using a hex editor while sitting in front of the PC. Nonetheless, I'm not disputing what you're saying, it's just not very probable on my machine. BTW, the passwords aren't plain text. - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.01.7 | BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP56vVVv+PP8p0/caEQK7IwCgon5EAgyVgc/3SGSJV3qzB7fAoXgAoKqm uyF1dQSh/8oldw0BV5xACVDB =RwiE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving (was too many mails)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gerard, On 28 October 2003, 15:46 +0100 ( 14:46 local time) Gerard [G] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW - - Keep messages in the base for (days) e.g. 90 MW - - Remove old messages MW And on the Deletion tab: MW - - Use folder-specific deletion settings MW - - Move to the specified folder (under Alternative deletion) e.g. MW Archive\Mailing lists\TBUDL MW - - Use alternative deletion for purging this folder MW With these settings old messages are automatically archived when you MW exit the program or use Shift+Delete. G How do you then access this archive? Using TB! I have an archive folder in the account tree but the messages are located on a different drive. Thus, the archive folder is excluded from my daily TB! backup. No need for an external program as I can search the archive directly. - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.01.7 | BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP562yVv+PP8p0/caEQKJPACgxpDov6XtEVymMotaAd1pvtHsKRQAnjUy r9oprsS8fPWqoQTl9/5moYvL =pOKS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard navigation scheduler
10/28/2003, 5:27 AM: Peter said in Keyboard navigation scheduler A Hmn, you're right . . . if you configure it to move to the next unread A on pressing ( ' ), nothing happens unless you are in the message list A pane. However, configured to use ctrl+alt+right as the shortcut key it A moves on to the next unread message without regard to what pane you are A in. PF A bug, then? I think it should be possible, It seems like a bug, yes -- I can't imagine why it would work with some keys configured while not with others . . . A On my 2.01.3 I have no trouble with this -- it navigates among panes as A expected. PF Yeah, here it does, too. Except then you have clicked on a URL and sort PF of selected a part of the message. Then it doesn't work - which is PF fairly OK. Are you viewing html messages? If so, it could just be that you're tabbing amongst links rather than panes. Or do you mean that it's halting altogether? It used to for me, and would require a mouse click to get it to respond to the keyboard again, but this issue stopped with 2.01.3 . . . -- Peace, be well J Allen R Day http://protempore.org I always like to know everything about my new friends, and nothing about my old ones. -Oscar Wilde The Bat! 2.01.7, BayesIt! 0.4gm | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard navigation scheduler
Allen, On 28-10-2003 19:50, you [A] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PF A bug, then? I think it should be possible, A It seems like a bug, yes -- I can't imagine why it would work with some A keys configured while not with others . . . OK. I'll post a report. PF Yeah, here it does, too. Except then you have clicked on a URL and PF sort of selected a part of the message. Then it doesn't work - PF which is fairly OK. A Are you viewing html messages? Not often. Text is default. A It used to for me, and would require a mouse click to get it to A respond to the keyboard again, but this issue stopped with 2.01.3 . . A . Yes I think something has changed lately. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.01.3 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encrypt / Sign upon completion not working
Hi Allie, On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 9:10:44 PM PST, you wrote: Your setup sounds exactly like mine does. I'm at a loss as to what the problem is. I'll keep experimenting to see if I can reproduce the problem. A small update (though nowhere near finished testing all possibilities yet): When I was first experimenting with the pgp/mime integration, I was only attempting to send messages to myself (between my various accounts). I did eventually find it possible to send both encrypted and encrypted signed messages with the expected and proper pgp/mime characteristics...but only from certain accounts to certain other accounts of mine. Then, I experimented with sending to other users... I've been able to consistently send properly formatted pgp/mime encrypted and/or encrypted signed messages to some people, and to others, the results were inconsistent (sometimes working perfectly, and other times, using apparently the same settings, the next message would be sent to the very same user as an inline PGP encrypted message). I still have no idea why these results are inconsistent, but I'll keep trying to figure it out. I'm beginning to wonder if at least some of the problems I'm experiencing have to do with how the integration deals with what it finds (or doesn't find) on my PGP keyring, but as yet, I'm not ready to form any particularly logical conclusions (of course, that may well just be my inadequate brain at work! :-)). -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
Douglas- Monday, October 27, 2003, 6:47:47 PM, you wrote: DH What kind of plugins? Third-party spam control and macro extensions. MW The folder and file formats are the same and you shouldn't have MW any trouble switching back and forth. DH Does that hold true for 1.62, 1.63 v. 2? 1.62 is a country I haven't visited, so I can't comment about it. However, it *is* the same as 1.53d, so I wouldn't expect any surprises. On the other hand, that's what surprises are all about, no? Nothing beats a thorough recent backup. DH You hadn't backed up your hard drive(s). g yes, it's all backed up regularly, but for something like this it's easier not to try to restore from the backup archives. /g The problem was that Win2k doesn't like you installing new motherboards. Tends to get a wee bit confused. Then installing SP2 over an SP4 installation increases the confusion. Took the best part of a day. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:glyphs.BMP
Hi Thomas, on Sun, 26 Oct 2003, at 19:21:22 local time (GMT -0300), you wrote: TM go to: TM http://www.thebatworld.de/glyphs/index.htm ?!?! Fehler / Error 403 !!! Diese Seiten sind Ihnen nicht zugänglich, da Sie beispielsweise von einem unbekannten System aus zugreifen oder die Seiten einfach generell nicht verfügbar sind. Sie werden automatisch zur Startseite umgeleitet. Webmaster -- Rob using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 ~ Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Encrypting attachments with PGP
Hello, I would like to encrypt attachments to be sent with The Bat, but they are to be encrypted to a recipient *other* than the recipient of the email. Is there a simple way to do this from within The Bat? -- Best regards, Costas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter Add to Address Book Question
Hi TBUDL, I am having problems using the Address book, sorry if this is old hat - but I haven't found anything close in my archives... I'm using a filter to add addresses off a mailing list, (anonymized version included below) but if I modify the name details in the address book, the next mail from the sender will create a new AB entry. Similarly, if the sender has a variety of monikers, each gets created _despite_ all featuring the same email address. For example, receiving mails from the following would generate 6 address entries: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] dave jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] DJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have issues if I place multiple e-mail addresses against an individual, for example, work, personal, etc, Is it possible to get the Add to Address book filter option to add based ONLY on the case insensitive email addresses for a contact ONLY, instead of all this? Ideally, I'd take the first hit for the Name values. Am I doing something Wrong? Is this more an issue with the Address book than the filter? BeginFilter Name: AddToAddressBook Active: 1 Source: \\XX\Inbox Target: \\XX\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00FilterCriteria Actions: faAddAddress AddGroups: MailingListGroup DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -- GameKeeper Turned Poacher Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
To: / CC: hyperlink
Hello TBUDL, Am I missing something, or is the To: hyperlink simply not functional to open the address picker? For CC: it seems to work just fine here. -- Kind regards, ouwehand dot net Peter Ouwehand mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - Using The Bat! V2.01.7 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs.BMP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Rob, On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:10:46 +0100 your time, you said: R Fehler / Error 403 !!! R Diese Seiten sind Ihnen nicht zugänglich, da Sie beispielsweise von R einem unbekannten System aus zugreifen oder die Seiten einfach R generell nicht verfügbar sind. Sie werden automatisch zur R Startseite umgeleitet. R Webmaster Works for me. Are you using a proxy/stealth browsing software or something? Perhaps that might explain it. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #394. Quad Sore Slim Wry ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 iQA/AwUBP57aEZJmyHDfgGLBEQKevQCgmqbuVc7cSAR3iplD9FLkOeR6eu8AoO0m w4XIkqDz72/s6ycBGgnbJ77Z =u/aW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encrypting attachments with PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Costas, On 28 October 2003, 22:22 +0200 ( 20:22 local time) Costas Papadopoulos [CP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CP I would like to encrypt attachments to be sent with The Bat, but they CP are to be encrypted to a recipient *other* than the recipient of the CP email. Is there a simple way to do this from within The Bat? Add the files to an archive, encrypt on the desktop to the desired key and then mail. - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.01.15 | BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP57dHVv+PP8p0/caEQL6QgCfWP+3tJNDUj/CaB++RGtkwSgjBSIAmgPq Z08H1eEQ9QpsETa3ps5N6UID =xRc6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'
On Monday, October 27, 2003, Joseph N. wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've started using one of those password generators on occasion, because I've about used up all the cute ones I can remember. But now I need a place to store them, since there's no mnemonic to keep them in mind. But, of course, the place to store them needs to be encrypted and passworded, so I need a password for that :-) Thanks to all for your responses, although I actually was just attempting some diminishing returns type of humor back to Martin. But, since so many offered up their apps of choice, I'll add mine to the mix: MobiPassword. It handles multiple levels of encryption, syncs between my Windows desktop and my Palm O/S PDA, feeds passwords directly to IE if so enabled (mine isn't), and assorted other tricks. -- JN Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Add to Address Book Question
Hi Colin, @28-Oct-2003, 20:22 Colin Turner said to TBUDL: I'm using a filter to add addresses off a mailing list, (anonymized version included below) but if I modify the name details in the address book, the next mail from the sender will create a new AB entry. ... snip Is it possible to get the Add to Address book filter option to add based ONLY on the case insensitive email addresses for a contact ONLY, instead of all this? Ideally, I'd take the first hit for the Name values. Am I doing something Wrong? Is this more an issue with the Address book than the filter? No. Well, yes and no. There is a filter based solution. BeginFilter Name: AddToAddressBook Active: 1 Source: \Inbox Target: \Inbox MainSet: 00FilterCriteria Actions: faAddAddress,faoAdvAddressOut,faoAdvNoGroups AddGroups: MailingListGroup NoAddrGroups: MailingListGroup EndFilter -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v2.01.12 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encrypting attachments with PGP
Hello Costas, Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 12:22:08 PM, you wrote: I would like to encrypt attachments to be sent with The Bat, but they are to be encrypted to a recipient *other* than the recipient of the email. Is there a simple way to do this from within The Bat? I would think not because an attachment is just that... an attachment to something else, but then I'm not all that experienced with TB at the moment. Still, why would you not send the attachment with an explanatory Email? -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- Using The Bat! v2.01.15 on Windows 98 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: To: / CC: hyperlink
Hello Peter, Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 12:38:30 PM, you wrote: PO Am I missing something, or is the To: hyperlink simply not PO functional to open the address picker? PO For CC: it seems to work just fine here. Works on BCC: as well, but not on the To: line -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- Using The Bat! v2.01.15 on Windows 98 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:
On Monday, October 20, 2003 at (which was Monday, October 20, 2003 at 21:43 where I am) Michael L. Cusac wrote: AFAIK, they are right about the RFCs, but I am amazed that they stand on that technicality on this issue. I'd think they would support 8-bit because their customers require it (and because the RFCs permit it). As it happens, this problem will be resolved shortly. I just received a mail from my ISP that this Wednesday they will be upgrading the mailservers to something that will support 8bit characters in mail. -- Greetings, Maurice Using The Bat! v2.01.15 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: To: / CC: hyperlink
Hi Peter, On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 12:38:30 PM PST, you wrote: Am I missing something, or is the To: hyperlink simply not functional to open the address picker? It works here with all three...To, CC, and BCC -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: To: / CC: hyperlink
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:38:30 +0100GMT (28-10-03, 21:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PO Am I missing something, or is the To: hyperlink simply not PO functional to open the address picker? PO For CC: it seems to work just fine here. I guess you mean the to-bar in the header part of the edit screen. You can open the address book just fine from it, but it has to be selected. You can only pick the AB from the active bar, whether that's the to-, cc- or bcc-bar. From and reply-to won't do. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: To: / CC: hyperlink
Hallo Nick, On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:51:14 -0800GMT (28-10-03, 23:51 +0100, where I live), you wrote: NA Hello Peter, NA Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 12:38:30 PM, you wrote: PO Am I missing something, or is the To: hyperlink simply not PO functional to open the address picker? NA Works on BCC: as well, but not on the To: line Must be a beta issue then. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Add to Address Book Question
Hallo Colin, On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:22:35 +GMT (28-10-03, 21:22 +0100, where I live), you wrote: CT I'm using a filter to add addresses off a mailing list, (anonymized version CT included below) but if I modify the name details in the address book, the next CT mail from the sender will create a new AB entry. Similarly, if the sender has a CT variety of monikers, each gets created _despite_ all featuring the same email CT address. Use the advanced option 'not present in AB' that makes TB skip on duplicate addresses. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading from 1.62 to 2.01.3
Marck Forgive me emailing directly, but I still can't post to the mailing list. Johannes Posel identified the problem, and I am following it up with my ISP, but to date ... Feel free to forward this onto TBUDL if it is appropriate. On Tue 28 October 2003, 21:11:35 +1000, Marck D Pearlstone wrote on TBUDL: QTs will have to be upgraded to v2 versions. There are some subtle changes in the way they work. %COMMENT is no longer viable as a pseudo variable because there are real variables available. Marcos that rely on %TO or %ABTOxxx will have to be replaced by %OFROM and %ABOFROMxxx type references. You discussed a similar thing about the way macros and QTs work in V2 in response to someone else's post recently. Do you know of any documentation on these changes that I can refer to? -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Add to Address Book Question
Hi Marck, Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 9:44:25 PM, you wrote: MDP No. Well, yes and no. There is a filter based solution. snip Thank you - so blimmin' obvious I couldn't see it - add only IF the address is not already present!! D'oh -- Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs.BMP
Hello Rob, on Tuesday, 28. October 2003, at 21:10:46 [GMT +0100] you wrote: TM go to: TM http://www.thebatworld.de/glyphs/index.htm ?!?! Fehler / Error 403 !!! works perfect here - strange -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.01.7 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0xABBB7287 HP: http://www.thebatworld.de Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Does Scheduler work for any of you ???
Hello all, I have had no replies to a message I sent 12 hours ago about the Scheduler not working for me. Let me ask a much simpler question. Do any of you use the Scheduler at all? Does it work for you? If so, can you give me a simple example on how you use it? It just happens that I can't get it to do anything for me. Thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP and BAT
Hello, I am new to PGP. Tried to follow instruction given in PGP and BAT by ProPrivacy. Since have problems with signing and encrypting, reviewed the document again and have a few questions. I assume the manual was written before BAT v.:2.x was issued? Questions: 1./ Select Open PGP Implementation menu has 2 options: PGP 6.0x/6.5x plug-in and PGP 5,6,7,8 (built in support). The manual doesn't show the latest. I presume this is what I should tick? 2./ The BAT-PGP plug-in is not required? 3./ E-mail - a./ Use PGP/MIME when sending E-mail? b./ Automatically decrypt/verify when opening messages? I presume these are supported in V:2? 4./ Always use secure Viewer when decrypting? Is it supported by v:2? What does it mean? 5./ This is not in the manual. I choose a passphrase which is quite long (according to recommendation). During the learning period I set the cache for both decryption and signing to 10 hours. But somehow ant time I do something I have to type the passphrase again and again. Why? I wanted to change the passphrase to a simpler one during the learning period. I used right-click/key-properties changed the passphrase accepted then got a message An error has occurred: object is read-only. I tried to delete my key-pair and recreate again, but run into the same message. Any advise? Thanks in advance -- Best regards, Peter Kerekes (Toronto, Canada) You must learn from the mistakes of others. You can't possibly live long enough to make them all yourself. -- Sam Levenson Using The Bat! v2.01.7 on Windows 98 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Does Scheduler work for any of you ???
MAU, On 29-10-2003 00:41, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: M Let me ask a much simpler question. Do any of you use the Scheduler M at all? Yes. M Does it work for you? Yes. M If so, can you give me a simple example on how you use it? It just M happens that I can't get it to do anything for me. Right clickRemind laterAdvancedUntick lowest tickboxAdvanced dialog opensRecurrenceRepeat each hour. This works for me (action: Open linked document). -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.01.15 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Does Scheduler work for any of you ???
Hello MAU, Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 7:41:07 PM, you wrote: Let me ask a much simpler question. Do any of you use the Scheduler at all? Does it work for you? If so, can you give me a simple example on how you use it? It just happens that I can't get it to do anything for me. It works for me. When you right click on a message, there's an option called Remind Later. Simply select one of the options listed in that sub-menu. Or, go directly into the scheduler and right-click on the list on the right and then select New to create a new task. The scheduler is more a task list than an agenda like Outlook. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading from 1.62 to 2.01.3
Hi Robin, @29-Oct-2003, 09:43 +1100 (29-Oct 22:43 UK time) Robin Anson said to Marck: QTs will have to be upgraded to v2 versions. There are some subtle changes in the way they work. %COMMENT is no longer viable as a pseudo variable because there are real variables available. Marcos that rely on %TO or %ABTOxxx will have to be replaced by %OFROM and %ABOFROMxxx type references. You discussed a similar thing about the way macros and QTs work in V2 in response to someone else's post recently. Do you know of any documentation on these changes that I can refer to? The only documentation of the impact of the changes exists in TBBETA where it was discussed (although not at length) and implicitly in the Macro Library FAQ zone, where the changed macros are listed below the v1 originals. A comparison between the two versions may, in some cases, clarify matters. The %TO thing is just that the To header contents do not exist until the template processing is complete, so any reference to it within the macro is bound to fail or at least give unpredictable results. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v2.01.12 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Test message - please ignore
My posts have not been getting through. This is a test to see if they do now. -- Regards Robin Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't get the Scheduler to work
Hello MAU, Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 1:30:03 PM, among other things you wrote: M Can someone give me the steps to set up a simple reminder 5 minutes M from now, to see if I can get it to work? My scheduler has always had a bug in it whereby it actuates one hour earlier than the time I program it to do something. If you have the same problem and want it to remind you in five minutes time, try setting it for one hour and five minutes. I'll be very interested to hear if this solves your problem. I have reported this behaviour as a possible bug but have never been able to get confirmation from anyone else, possibly because in some cases it may not be obviously noticeable -- Best regards, Roger Using The Bat! v2.01.15 on Windows ME, v4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! 2
Hello Thomas other TB! list members following this thread, On Tuesday, October 28, 2003 you wrote: MW 1.63 allows for the use of plugins, DH What kind of plugins? TF Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus. These are plugins designed specifically for TB!? Or do v. 1.63 and 2.x use plugins made for M$IE or Eudora (for instance), in the same way that Opera can use Netscape plugins. IAC, what third parties make them? Are they for Apps that must be purchased? TF New Options / Preferences dialog, and Maintainance Center. What does the Maintenance Center manage? Does it centralize features like the ticker, filters and compression (things I asked for in 1999). MW The folder and file formats are the same and you shouldn't have MW any trouble switching back and forth. DH Does that hold true for 1.62, 1.63 v. 2? TF No. The folder structure was changed during the 1.63 beta series, so TF if you change anything in v2 and then go back to 1.62, the change will TF not be reflected. Were any of the 1.63 betas as stable as v. 1.62? Which was the best? As I understood it, what Mark mentioned would allow going back and forth between v. 1.63b and v. 2.x by simply substituting the main .exe file. Does the current version's message editor continue to support the WordStar type free caret? Any other changes or new implementations in the editor? After Wed. Thurs. tomorrow and the day after) the cost doubles. -- Douglas Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'
Hi Martin Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 1:02:56 PM, you wrote: MW Yes. If someone has concerns about passwords being compromised while the MW PC is repaired the simple solution is to change them beforehand. If that MW isn't possible then change them when it's returned. Actually, both would have to be done. MW That's because the original text MW (http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-October/012716.html) MW refers to someone hacking passwords using a hex editor while sitting in MW front of the PC. You're right. But it doesn't specifically have anything to do with sitting in front of the PC. He probably experimented on his own machine, so he did it that way. It talks about using a hex editor, but that vulnerability could just as easily be exploited remotely on a downloaded file. MW Nonetheless, I'm not disputing what you're saying, it's just not very MW probable on my machine. I'm sure you're right :) MW BTW, the passwords aren't plain text. My mistake, I meant messages :p Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test message - please ignore
Hello Robin, Wednesday, October 29, 2003, 4:02:38 AM, among other things you wrote: RA My posts have not been getting through. This is a test to see if they do now. Arrived OK here -- Best regards, Roger Using The Bat! v2.01.15 on Windows ME, v4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Does Scheduler work for any of you ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, MAU wrote... I have had no replies to a message I sent 12 hours ago about the Scheduler not working for me. Not to be rude or anything... but 12 hours really isn't that long of a time, reposting in such short time seems a little pointless... people have work, other tasks to attend to, not all matters get replied to instantly. Let me ask a much simpler question. Do any of you use the Scheduler at all? Does it work for you? If so, can you give me a simple example on how you use it? It just happens that I can't get it to do anything for me. Yes, and yes. Right click on email, remind later. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ummm, trouble with grammar have I? Yes! --Yoda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP5829iuD6BT4/R9zEQKk0wCgnSyEe/KWSqnl9WQn2wKmqUB03VoAn1b0 UokCaGNUvwLd2PIBl4M7cc+L =wfcW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
Douglas- Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 3:25:15 PM, you wrote: DH After Wed. Thurs. tomorrow and the day after) the cost doubles. Actually the cost goes to normal instead of being heavily discounted. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
