Re: How is The Bat's IMAP support?
Philip Storry, [PS] wrote: PS The word push was used in a slang context, to denote how hard you PS were planning to push The Bat!'s support of the IMAP protocol to its PS limits. I can see why what I wrote must have been confusing. My PS apologies if this has caused anyone any inconvenience. ;-) ;) It's not difficult to push it's support to the limits. What has happened is that I've found it to be reliable and workable, though quite limited in some respects. I've dealt with the limitations in two ways; I either find a workaround, or I just plain live with the limitation while enjoying the great benefits and flexibility while using the protocol in the context of my situation. For the moment, my IMAP server is on the machine I'm working with. However, I can manage my mail from any machine on the network as if the mail were always there, and I can manage my mail from work. I can switch to any client and do the same. I really enjoy this and don't mind missing sound notifications, having to do server side filtering to avoid a lot of the manual filtering and having to tolerate some other little glitches. PS It's great having that sort of freedom of space. :-) Without this, I doubt that I'd have considered and would be using IMAP now. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.04.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
High-light folder list
Hi Bat Users, I have just switched to XP or actually I am still switching :( I noticed that when I select a msg in the msg list window the highlight in the folder list window turns to a light grey. Actually so light grey that I have a problem finding it. Can this be changed? and if so were? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- It Is Time To Quit When... When you call fore on a par three everyone runs to the green for safety. Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My registration
On Monday, March 22, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... I am not using hacked/cracked/modified TB and never have. I am a registered TB user. http://kaishaku.org/tb/ It seems there is a contagious belief to the contrary. You've failed to mention why it seems it isn't registered. Is it giving you any errors? Is it not accepting your key? What version of TB are you running? What version did you buy a key for? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) C code. C code run. Run, code, run ... PLEASE! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: High-light folder list
On Monday, March 22, 2004 @ 7:55:38 AM [-0700], Gerard wrote: It Is Time To Quit When... When you call fore on a par three everyone runs to the green for safety. Hah! Almost lost my coffee reading that tagline... -- Matt Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: High-light folder list
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 12:26 PM, you wrote: MW I don't think this is possible as it's determined by the OS (I can't see MW anything in Display Properties). Also, other applications use the same MW effects as TB! for lists out of focus so you you have the same problem MW elsewhere. Check out Outlook Express. maybe in control panel display properties?? or select another theme?? MW Nonetheless, this shouldn't be a problem with the default Windows XP MW themes (classic or Teletubbies style). Have you installed a non standard MW theme? Or could it be a matter of screen contrast? I'm not even sure what theme I am using, oh yeah, Litestep Austerity:) I do have MS Plus! installed, but I don't think my wife has changed her theme ever. maybe the desktop picture, but nothing else. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-16 (20.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hi all as if by magic a couple of you post that few newbie members...wellhere's one - so I thought I'd say Hi. I'm currently trialing the bat , bout 17/18 days into the trial, and finding it quite an adjustment from the loveable Mr. Gate's (the malware writers best friend) product. Am finding it confusing and little as being user friendly/intuative. So I hope you guys are ready for loads of real dumb newbie questions :-) BTW what is Hmane ?? Thanks guys Stef Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hallo stefan, On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:46:50 -0800 (PST)GMT (22-3-04, 19:46 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SK as if by magic a couple of you post that few newbie SK members...wellhere's one - so I thought I'd say SK Hi. Welcome. SK BTW what is Hmane ?? Gmane is a gateway that enables people to read this list with their news client. SK Note: forwarded message attached. Attachments don't work on this list. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 1:46 PM, you wrote: sk Hi all from Georgia, that's Hey Y'all G sk as if by magic a couple of you post that few newbie sk members...wellhere's one - so I thought I'd say sk Hi. welcome, this is a great forum, lots of nice members, lots of good information, and friendly moderators! sk I'm currently trialing the bat , bout 17/18 days into sk the trial, and finding it quite an adjustment from sk the loveable Mr. Gate's (the malware writers best sk friend) product. most people here will totally agree about OL and OE. sk Am finding it confusing and little as being user sk friendly/intuative. TB is very powerful, yet if you just take it as installed, it will work just fine. sk So I hope you guys are ready for loads of real dumb sk newbie questions :-) we all learn by answering questions ( at least I DO:) sometimes there is a better way to do things! sk BTW what is Hmane ?? you mean Gmane? Gmane is a newsgroup feed, thebat is not only a list, but also can be read with a newsreader, if you subscribe to gmane. you can read about gmane here: http://gmane.org/ or read some of the TBUDL archives, I know there was a HUGE thread on gmane just recently. We only got added to gmane this month. welcome aboard, and ask away! and don't ask ME, I'm just a user here, not a moderator! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-16 (20.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: High-light folder list
ON Monday, March 22, 2004, 6:38:38 PM, you wrote: MT On Monday, March 22, 2004 @ 7:55:38 AM [-0700], Gerard wrote: It Is Time To Quit When... When you call fore on a par three everyone runs to the green for safety. MT Hah! Almost lost my coffee reading that tagline... Hi Matt, You must be a player then ;-) I have a file full of them and the TB! puts them there at random. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= A golf ball simply cannot find the hold by itself. Even if it could, the ball would never do so willingly, after the hatred and hammering you've heaped on it to get it to the green. Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: High-light folder list
ON Monday, March 22, 2004, 6:26:02 PM, you wrote: MW I don't think this is possible as it's determined by the OS (I can't see MW anything in Display Properties). Also, other applications use the same MW effects as TB! for lists out of focus so you you have the same problem MW elsewhere. Check out Outlook Express. MW Nonetheless, this shouldn't be a problem with the default Windows XP MW themes (classic or Teletubbies style). Have you installed a non standard MW theme? Or could it be a matter of screen contrast? Hi Martin, I read your comment and since I just installed XP plain and did not change the theme, I had a look at my display setting. Turns out contrast was very high and is now at a more normal level, which also make the selected folder more visible. It could be better but I can live with this setting. Thanks. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Golf is an easy game... it's just hard to play. Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Thanks for the Welcome Martin and others. I'm hardly a power user of email, so may well not need many of the advanced features of the bat. It was mainly the ability to be bale to manage messages on the server and if desired deeleting them from the server that appealed to me plus I read a lot of good reports about it. Heck you never know I may use some of the advanced features as time goes on. Stef --- Martin Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:21:35 + From: Martin Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: stefan ketola on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Subject: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Stefan, On 22 March 2004, 10:46 -0800 (18:46 local time) Stefan Ketola [SK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SK Am finding it confusing and little as being user SK friendly/intuative. I'm sure it was the same for many of us. However, once you understand some of the _many_ features no other e-mail client comes close. At work I'm stuck with Outlook and it's a real pain... unlike TB! it doesn't work for me because it lacks the advanced filtering, templates and macros and can't handle large numbers of messages. SK So I hope you guys are ready for loads of real dumb SK newbie questions :-) Fire away! This is the best place to learn about TB! and the community is second to none! - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.05 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370/; iQA/AwUBQF9K1Dknq5PWREYNEQJpzACgj+nw192sRXYSlgRgm7oLCk3wsBQAoOZM KsqqDoBo7NBhsRLvMzZXSU/c =85OQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Dear Stefan, @22-Mar-2004, 12:44 -0800 (22-Mar 20:44 UK time) stefan ketola [SK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to tbul: SK Thanks for the Welcome Martin and others. In spite of the reminders of the list rules, I also bid you a hearty welcome - we're a good bunch here on the whole, honest! -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hi stefan, on Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:44:02 -0800 (PST)GMT, you wrote: sk Heck you never know I may use some of the advanced sk features as time goes on. I'm sure you will. :-)) -- Cheers Peter Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. Winston Churchill Winamp currently playing: Tenacious D - Kielbasa Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: High-light folder list
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 3:41 PM, you wrote: G I read your comment and since I just installed XP plain and did not change G the theme, I had a look at my display setting. G Turns out contrast was very high and is now at a more normal level, which G also make the selected folder more visible. G It could be better but I can live with this setting. if you go to the Control Panel- Display then select appearance you can change a multitude of options, including the theme colors. If you select the ADVANCED button, on the lower right side, then select the ITEM drop-down. You can also change colors for each window- foreground, background, window borders, menus my 2 favorite items to change ( old-fart-syndrome) are: caption buttons- change to 22 scrollbar - 19 or greater it makes them MUCH easier to HIT, especially with a laptop. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Mod: Cut mark (was: Gmane TB lists volume down?)
Dear Stefan, Another posting tip for you to add to your Please include a signature delimiter in your . messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. Sorry you completely lost me there - I dont use a sig onmy Yahoo mail ? :-( __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 3:44 PM, you wrote: sk Heck you never know I may use some of the advanced sk features as time goes on. some of the advanced features I'm sure you will ove are the templates, filters and macros. If you get ANY spam at all you will love using the filters! You can use K9 or spampal or a plugin to help you with SPAM, and use the filters to handle SPAM. first, get used to the basics, read the lists, and you never know! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
Dear Stefan, @22-Mar-2004, 13:01 -0800 (22-Mar 21:01 UK time) stefan ketola [SK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to tbul: Another posting tip for you to add to your Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. SK Sorry you completely lost me there - I dont use a sig SK onmy Yahoo mail ? :-( You still need one. It's in the list rules. It shows where your message ends. And anyway, if you're trying out The Bat!, why are you not using TB to send email? -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
anyway, if you're trying out The Bat!, why are you not using TB to send email? Because I hardly ever use my real name on line - with hackers, crackers, spammers etc I prefer to excercise anonymity by use of peusdonyms and web based mail __ Stef __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Cut mark
Howdy stefan, Monday, March 22, 2004, 9:25:01 PM, stefan wrotened: stefan Because I hardly ever use my real name on line - with stefan hackers, crackers, spammers etc I prefer to excercise stefan anonymity by use of peusdonyms and web based mail The bat has ways of blocking spam, either by filter with selective downloading or plugins for example BayseIT. And the only way the bat makes you vulnerable to Virus's is if you open an infected attachment of an email. stefan __ psst dont hold down shift just '-- ' like mine below or i can see this degenerating into an argument... and well we all want to help ya get the best out of your bat! -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Baby-sitter: a teenager acting like an adult, while the adults are out acting like teenagers. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
Dear Stefan, @22-Mar-2004, 13:25 -0800 (22-Mar 21:25 UK time) stefan ketola [SK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: anyway, if you're trying out The Bat!, why are you not using TB to send email? SK Because I hardly ever use my real name on line - with hackers, SK crackers, spammers etc I prefer to excercise anonymity by use of SK peusdonyms and web based mail This is something TB can completely help you with. You can call yourself what you want and use whatever addresses you need to use. Just set up extra accounts as you need them. Oh yes - the cut mark uses simple minus sign dashes, two of them, followed by a space and a new line. Two underscores look okay but don't work. Work? Any cut mark is used to automatically trim off anything that appears after it when replying. That's why it's needed. *Especially* when you use webmail, which inflicts its own signatures on your message. The lack of a cutmark, whether you think you need one or not, forces people to hand trim things you never intended to send. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
This is something TB can completely help you with. You can call yourself what you want and use whatever addresses you need to use. So could I use the BAT to sned my Yahoo mail BUT not to receive my Yahoo Mail ? Also If I do this can people not work out where the mail has REALLY come from ? Anyway off to bed now. thanks -- Stef __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
Dear Stefan, @22-Mar-2004, 13:46 -0800 (22-Mar 21:46 UK time) stefan ketola [SK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This is something TB can completely help you with. You can call yourself what you want and use whatever addresses you need to use. SK So could I use the BAT to sned my Yahoo mail BUT not to receive SK my Yahoo Mail ? Why not both? I use Yahoo Delivers and can access my yahoo mail with POP3. That may be because I have an older yahoo account. SK Also If I do this can people not work out where the mail has SK REALLY come from ? Only if the SMTP outbound server you use gives it away. At best, they can only track it down to your ISP. If you're planning to perform an illegal act then you are no less traceable by Yahoo than by any other mail send method. SK Anyway off to bed now. Good night! ;-) -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME, TheBat OE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [Sonntag, 21. März 2004, 18:46:58]: I'm trying to send S/MIME encrypted email to an OE recipient. When said recipient recieves my mail, he can perfectly import the certificate but once he tried to send me back an encrypted mail OE gives out the warning that the message will only be encrypted with 40 bit encryption. OK, since nobody seems to be able to help, I'll talk to myself for a while. Feel free to jump in... ;) There is obviously a patch available http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;331488 which enables OE to encrypt messages with 3DES even if the recipient's capabilities are unknown. While this fixes the problem, it is still not clear why TB will not embed this information within the signature. Or maybe I'm totally wrong and this should all be within the certificate? A little confused, Oliver -- PGP welcome. Click [ http://www.oliverwolfram.de/pgp.txt ] for my public key. Fingerprint: 0294 8249 8EE6 D4C0 DFB2 F3A2 ED5F AD45 C90B 6C05 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME, TheBat OE
Oliver Wolfram, [OW] wrote: OW OK, since nobody seems to be able to help, I'll talk to myself for OW a while. Feel free to jump in... ;) I don't have any specific suggestions since I haven't been using S/MIME. I guess it's the same for many others here who like me, use PGP or GnuPG. OW which enables OE to encrypt messages with 3DES even if the OW recipient's capabilities are unknown. While this fixes the OW problem, it is still not clear why TB will not embed this OW information within the signature. Or maybe I'm totally wrong and OW this should all be within the certificate? Go to the 'Options' menu and select S/MIME. Do you have MS CryptoAPI enabled there? This is just a guess. I do know that the internal and MS CryptoAPI engines work differently. Since you're communicating with an OE user, this may make a difference. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.04.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Paul Cartwright, [PC] wrote: sk BTW what is Hmane ?? PC you mean Gmane? Gmane is a newsgroup feed, thebat is not only a PC list, but also can be read with a newsreader, if you subscribe to PC gmane. you can read about gmane here: http://gmane.org/ The TBUDLInfo pages have been updated to include information on Gmane as it pertains to these lists. Have you seen it? The URL is in the footer of all list messages: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.04.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 4:55 PM, you wrote: SK So could I use the BAT to sned my Yahoo mail BUT not to receive SK my Yahoo Mail ? MDP Why not both? I use Yahoo Delivers and can access my yahoo mail with MDP POP3. That may be because I have an older yahoo account. I have a real old yahoo account, but they still don't allow POP3(for free). They only let you have the web based mail for free. Yet I use Yahoopops to send and receive mail using TB. You can use either yahoopops (free) or web2pop( not free) to get and/or send yahoo mail using TB. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Stefan Ketola, [SK] wrote: SK I'm hardly a power user of email, so may well not need many of the SK advanced features of the bat. I didn't particularly consider myself a power user either. Interestingly, what attracted me to TB! right away was what some will not like and that's MicroEd, the default editor. I was seeking an editor that would easily format *e-mail* and I say *e-mail* since when writing email one has special formatting needs. With further use of the program I quickly discovered templates, something that any user of email will likely find useful. The Bat! handles these unlike any other client I've used. So simply and so effectively. IOW's, things that were previously tedious will now be easy since you can quite easily set things up in TB! to be automated, such as using specific signatures or identities or format when writing to particular individuals/groups etc. I welcome you to the list and am sure that in time, you'll discover that there are things that you never really thought possible that will be useful to you and easily achieved with TB!. Happy bat!ing ;) -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.04.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 5:45 PM, you wrote: AM The TBUDLInfo pages have been updated to include information on AM Gmane as it pertains to these lists. Have you seen it? AM The URL is in the footer of all list messages: AM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html what, you expect me to READ that stuff???G the gmane info is at this link: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/gmane.htm so now, in my tbudl email address I have these 2 lines: %SetHeader(X-Archive,encrypt)%- %SetHeader(X-No-Archive,Yes) but I think now, that I may not need that first line anymore?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
Dear Paul, @22-Mar-2004, 17:47 -0500 (22-Mar 22:47 UK time) Paul Cartwright [PC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: SK So could I use the BAT to sned my Yahoo mail BUT not to SK receive my Yahoo Mail ? MDP Why not both? I use Yahoo Delivers and can access my yahoo MDP mail with POP3. That may be because I have an older yahoo MDP account. PC I have a real old yahoo account, but they still don't allow PC POP3(for free). Okay - Yahoo.co.uk seem to. And Stef is with them. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Cut mark
Hi Paul, Monday, March 22, 2004, 10:47:23 PM, you wrote: PC On Monday, March 22, 2004, 4:55 PM, you wrote: PC I have a real old yahoo account, but they still don't allow POP3(for PC free). They only let you have the web based mail for free. Yet I use PC Yahoopops to send and receive mail using TB. You can use either PC yahoopops (free) or web2pop( not free) to get and/or send yahoo mail PC using TB. I to have a very old Yahoo! account (1998 or earlier) yet do not have access to POP/SMTP access. However I can't remember ever having access to these services. I use Clara.net now for my email service, very good IMO. Yahoopops works great. For those using Hotmail you might want to try Hotmail Popper from http://www.fitsoftware.com/ it is freeware. -- Morgan R. Pugh http://www.mpugh.com 22/03/2004 @ 22:56 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Dear Paul, @22-Mar-2004, 17:58 -0500 (22-Mar 22:58 UK time) Paul Cartwright [PC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Allie: PC so now, in my tbudl email address I have these 2 lines: PC %SetHeader(X-Archive,encrypt)%- PC %SetHeader(X-No-Archive,Yes) PC but I think now, that I may not need that first line anymore?? You don't need that first line anymore. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Paul Cartwright, [PC] wrote: AM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html PC what, you expect me to READ that stuff???G If there's some truth to that, then it would explain why so many others don't seem to read it. Does it seem overwhelming to read? A genuine question since I wrote most of it and am curious. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.04.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME, TheBat OE
Hi Allie, thanks for your reply. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [Montag, 22. März 2004, 23:36:56]: Go to the 'Options' menu and select S/MIME. Do you have MS CryptoAPI enabled there? This is just a guess. I do know that the internal and MS CryptoAPI engines work differently. Since you're communicating with an OE user, this may make a difference. As I've stated above, I've tried both the MS as well as the internal implementation to no avail. I don't have any specific suggestions since I haven't been using S/MIME. I guess it's the same for many others here who like me, use PGP or GnuPG. I use PGP as well. Just thought it would be nice to have both options. To quote a guy from www.cacert.org: PGP is nice but nobody knows how to use it. Maybe he has a point there. Its trust system does take a while to understand. Cheers, Oliver -- PGP welcome. Click [ http://www.oliverwolfram.de/pgp.txt ] for my public key. Fingerprint: 0294 8249 8EE6 D4C0 DFB2 F3A2 ED5F AD45 C90B 6C05 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hello Paul, Monday, March 22, 2004, 3:58:06 PM, you wrote: Paul what, you expect me to READ that stuff???G Oh boy. grin Paul so now, in my tbudl email address I have these 2 lines: Paul %SetHeader(X-Archive,encrypt)%- Paul %SetHeader(X-No-Archive,Yes) Paul but I think now, that I may not need that first line anymore?? That totally depends on what you want. You do realize that the second line above will post your message to the newsgroup for 14 days right? If you never, ever, ever want it to get posted on the newserver, then you need: %SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0) -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.05 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:47:23 -0500 GMT(22/03/2004, 22:47 + GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: PC I have a real old yahoo account, but they still don't PC allow POP3(for PC free). They only let you have the PC web based mail for free. Yet I use PC Yahoopops to PC send and receive mail using TB. You can use either PC PC yahoopops (free) or web2pop( not free) to get and/or PC send yahoo mail PC using TB. Actually you can deal with mail from Yahoo in The Bat! itself as long as you have an address at yahoo.co.uk as distinct from one at yahoo.com . There: that's my first post using version 2! But it doesn't seem to do the quotes correctly. Do I need to change some settings? -- Regards, Eric mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo mail (was: Mod: Cut mark)
Dear Morgan, @22-Mar-2004, 23:00 Morgan R. Pugh [MRP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Paul: MRP I to have a very old Yahoo! account (1998 or earlier) yet do MRP not have access to POP/SMTP access. I dont use them for SMTP or even know if they have SMTP serves available. I do collect my yahoo.co.uk mail from their POP3 servers directly though. MRP Yahoopops works great. For those using Hotmail you might want to try MRP Hotmail Popper from http://www.fitsoftware.com/ it is freeware. Correction: it used to be free (v2). For v3 ... The trial is fully functional but will expire after you upload and download 100 messages. If you choose to purchase Hotmail Popper, the cost is $17.50. :-( -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 6:08 PM, you wrote: E Actually you can deal with mail from Yahoo in The Bat! E itself as long as you have an address at yahoo.co.uk as E distinct from one at yahoo.com . I don't think people in the US can get a yahoo.uk address.. yahoo it seems, uses POP3 in almost every country except the US ;( E There: that's my first post using version 2! But it E doesn't seem to do the quotes correctly. Do I need to E change some settings? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 6:00 PM, you wrote: MRP I to have a very old Yahoo! account (1998 or earlier) yet do not have MRP access to POP/SMTP access. However I can't remember ever having access to MRP these services. I use Clara.net now for my email service, very good MRP IMO. as the www/clara.net web site says: You must have a BT phone line so, again, that leaves us U.S folks out:) MRP Yahoopops works great. For those using Hotmail you might want to try MRP Hotmail Popper from http://www.fitsoftware.com/ it is freeware. I have both web2pop ( paid for) and yahoopops installed on my system. Right now I am using yahoopops, web2pop seemed slower, so I stopped using it. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 6:04 PM, you wrote: Paul what, you expect me to READ that stuff???G LG Oh boy. grin I mean, really, if I wanted to READ all that stuff, why would I be here asking ( and answering) stupid questions? BG Paul so now, in my tbudl email address I have these 2 lines: Paul %SetHeader(X-Archive,encrypt)%- Paul %SetHeader(X-No-Archive,Yes) Paul but I think now, that I may not need that first line anymore?? LG That totally depends on what you want. You do realize that the second LG line above will post your message to the newsgroup for 14 days right? no I didn't understand that, what are the options and how do you set them??? LG If you never, ever, ever want it to get posted on the newserver, then LG you need: LG %SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0) I saw that, but it said to use one line or the other. It didn't really tell me ( did I miss it??) what either line does, so I picked to use the first line! and, to answer the question, I don't really care if my posts get mirrored to the newsgroup, since they encrypt my email address. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 6:02 PM, you wrote: AM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html PC what, you expect me to READ that stuff???G AM If there's some truth to that, then it would explain why so many AM others don't seem to read it. time is a critical factor, or lack of:) AM Does it seem overwhelming to read? A genuine question since I wrote AM most of it and am curious. I read things, when I learn of them, and need to read them. I have been following the gmane threads, and thought I had everything set, that needed to be set. And I have read those web pages numerous times IN THE PAST, didn't see a need to re-read them lately, and I don't remember anyone saying the new GMANE info was on the web page. I DO remember an email I wrote, saying that the info SHOULD maybe be put in the FAQ somewhere, then I got trout slapped by Leif, for top posting my reply asking that question ( about putting the info in the FAQ). so, there, a genuine answer! does that cover it?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 6:44 PM, you wrote: Paul so now, in my tbudl email address I have these 2 lines: Paul %SetHeader(X-Archive,encrypt)%- Paul %SetHeader(X-No-Archive,Yes) LG Ok, so you don't need anything. LG Setting the X-No-Archive to Yes means your posts will only stay on the LG newsgroup for 14 days. If you don't mind them being mirrored there, LG then you don't need to put anything as the GMane server is LG auto-encrypting the addresses for all the TB lists mirrored to it. wonderful! and deleting those will keep a couple of blank lines out of my posts!!G -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My registration
Monday, March 22, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not using hacked/cracked/modified TB No, you are using Mutt 1.5.4 :-) -- Urban Writing at the same time as Shakespeare was Miguel Cervantes. He wrote onkey Hote. The next great author was John Milton. Milton wrote Paradise Lost. Then his wife died and he wrote Paradise Regained. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: My registration
Hello, On Monday, March 22, 2004, 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U Monday, March 22, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not using hacked/cracked/modified TB U No, you are using Mutt 1.5.4 :-) I would *love to know what this thread is about. Just curious, enquiring minds and all that. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: High-light folder list
ON Monday, March 22, 2004, 9:54:38 PM, you wrote: PC if you go to the Control Panel- Display PC then select appearance Hi Paul, Thanks, I will check this out. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The loss of focus on four or five shots a round makes the difference between great golf and mediocre golf. Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
