How to filter messages without subject

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

I want to set up a filter to filter messages without a subject line
into a specific folder.

Setting up a filter is easy, but how do I get the kludges filter to
work on empty subject lines?

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Open original mail

[Boris Gereg]

Hello,

reading today's "View follow up" topic I remebered I wanted to ask:

When in Sent Mail folder, watching an email which is actualy a reply,
is it possible to backtrack to original email? Is there a function
like "View original"?

 
Best Regards,
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Re[2]: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Russell L. Farabee]

Hello Allie,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 9:18:30 PM, you wrote:

AM> You'll need to send an example for one of us to examine. Maybe it's
AM> being altered in some way or you're making an error.

AM> If you're using MicroEd you shouldn't be getting all that extra code
AM> that you say that you're seeing.

Well, I finally figured it out thanks to the help of this list.  I have to say,
however, that it is "bassackward".  Here is what I learned, and I'm posting this
for the next poor fool that is trying to accomplish what I wanted.  And I would
remind all of those reading that what I originally wanted was a template for
mass mailing that would be viewed in HTML.

1.  It cannot be done if you set your editor preferences to use the html editor.

2.  You must use the MicroEd editor.

3. You have to hard code the html code in the message or template. When you save
or send the message it is apparently automatically converted to the format I
wanted. In other words, it looks pretty. If you have set your editor preferences
for viewing to see both html and text, you will actually see the message in both
formats and it looks clean.

4. The process is not intuitive, because after you have created the message, you
see the html codes and only through the intervention of this list would I have
seen this through. It didn't make sense to me that you could have an html (and
template) editor that you couldn't use for creating html.

5.  Once you have saved the email as a draft or put the email into the outbox,
YOU CANNOT REOPEN OR YOU LOSE FORMATTING.  As best I can tell, once you reopen
it, some sort of automatic conversion takes place and the html code is changed
to a more extensive set of options.  The source that originally had only the
simple HTML and BODY tags looks (at the beginning) like the following:

IMAP

[ETM]

I do not understand IMAP and so am at a decided disadvantage
right now.  I like TB! and want to use it while considering
a trial AOL subscription.  I would not, under any
circumstances, consider AOL if I had to use its mail
program.

I have been successful in setting up IMAP in Outlook
Express.  I have been successful in setting up TB! for
downloading AOL, but I am unable to send from TB!.  However,
I have absolutely no problem sending AOL from Outlook
Express.  What is it in the settings that I am doing wrong
when attempting to set up TB! for AOL IMAP?

And, do I lose the ability to use TB! filtering and folders
in the IMAP account?

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Re: Problems Submitting Bug Reports

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Tuesday, May 25, 2004, Brien King wrote...

> Well, I submitted a bug report (Using the option under the Help
> menu) and I received the following message back:

> The original message was received at Wed, 26 May 2004 02:36:32 +0300
> from [216.140.43.77]) []

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> delayed. Negative "RCPT TO" reply from
> argus.ritlabs.com [195.138.101.49]. Host
> 'argus.ritlabs.com' says: "450 4.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... sender
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via
> [212.56.194.247] to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> denied for 600 seconds".

> Anyone else getting this?

They're using a greylisting "technology"... It forces the sending SMTP
server to be delayed (read the message) as it sends a 450 which is a
temporary error message. Your sending mail server SHOULD attempt to
resent at a later time (though you don't have control over it). The
sending server suggests 600 seconds, while the sending SMTP server
won't likely read past the 450 part. People are trying this as an
anti-spam thing, as most spamming software connects directly to the
recipient mail server, and has little respect for RFCs, and as such
would ignore that message, so the mail would be dropped. If your SMTP
server follows RFCs, then it would have been retried at a later time,
and delivered.

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Re: link wrapping

[Allie Martin]

Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote:

RG> TB! will wrap long links and not "know" that it has truncated a URL.

Is this while viewing a received message?

If so, then this isn't TB!'s fault but the sending client's fault.
Most clients will wrap upon sending and many do not care if a long URL
is one of the things it's wrapping.

You receive the message with the URL already wrapped and TB! simply
displays the wrapped URL, already broken.

I'll give you a long URL:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1880418592/ref=pd_ts_coop/104-7943297-2153543?v=glance&s=books&n=549066

I really don't expect TB! to wrap this.

RG> I do not mind the URL wrapping on-screen BUT it should still be
RG> recognized as a single link, no?

Well, for the above URL, you can make the viewer smaller and TB! will
still not wrap an unwrapped URL as with the one above.

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Re: signature delimiter

[Allie Martin]

Cyrille, [C] wrote:

C> -2) To be honest, I do not know how to check whether I have the space
C> after the two dashes. The praised "free caret" or "virtual space"
C> method of MicroEd makes it impossible to know whether you have a space
C> at the end of a line or not.

If you do a set and forget like I do, then you'll not have to check.

Place the signature delimiter in your templates for the list. The
template will nicely preserve them.

When you generate a new message or reply, just stay away from editing
the signature with its delimiter. :)

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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Allie Martin]

Russell L. Farabee, [RLF] wrote:

RLF> I included the quote before I sent it. And I was using the
RLF> microed editor. I don't have any outgoing filters, so I don't
RLF> know what's going on. Fyi, I typed in exactly the following,
RLF> except that the first HTML was totally enclosed. So, I'm
RLF> clueless.

You'll need to send an example for one of us to examine. Maybe it's
being altered in some way or you're making an error.

If you're using MicroEd you shouldn't be getting all that extra code
that you say that you're seeing.

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Re: Applying A Filter To 'Sent' Folder

[Allie Martin]

Ken Green, [KG] wrote:

KG> Unless he is using IMAP. For me, Outgoing filters with IMAP result
KG> in Access Violations.

I'm not getting those here. Are you working with a server side Outbox
or a local Outbox. I'm working with a local Outbox since a server
side Outbox seems to be problematic.

The only real reason for a server side Outbox is if you're in the
habit of partially composing a message at one location and wish to
complete the message you were composing on another machine at another
location. I tend not to do this, so it doesn't really benefit me
having a server side Outbox. Maybe you're in the same situation and
can therefore do away with the buggy misery of using a server side
Outbox.

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Re: "View follow up"?

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello TBUDL,

on Tue, 25. May 2004 at 13:00:01 -0600 Leif Gregory wrote:

> Right click the message, choose Specials, Open Reply, or CTRL-BKSPACE.

I wish this would also work in the other direction, so you would find
the message that the highlighted one is a follow-up to.
I remember to have heard that this is what Ctrl-Backspace does when
there is no reply, but am not sure about it.

Is this possible?


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Re[2]: Problems Submitting Bug Reports

[Brien King]

> It looks like you have to report bugs through Bug Tracker these days.
> Trying to send an e-mail of a bug will fail.

Ian,

Ok, I'll bite.  Where is Bug Tracker?  I don't see any
mention of it on the web site.


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Re[2]: Problems Submitting Bug Reports

[Brien King]

> It looks like you have to report bugs through Bug Tracker these days.
> Trying to send an e-mail of a bug will fail.

Ian,

Looks like I need to report that as a bug too :-)

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Re: multi-language templates

[Robin Anson]

On Wed 26 May 2004, 4:31:03 +1000, Cyrille wrote:
> Is there a (semi-)automated way to insert such a line in hundreds of AB
> entries?

If the addressbook entries do not already have information in the memo
field, you can select multiple entries, and then Edit->Properties and
select the memo tab to enter the same information in all of them at once.
This will overwrite any existing information in that field though.

> And since reality is more complicated than any theory I guess that I
> will forget sometimes to add this line to each new contact. That is
> why I dream about the following solution:
> 
> When composing a message (new or reply),
> 1) your QT could get the language information from the AB memo field,
> 2) if there is no such info, the recipient's address domain extension
> is used to determine the language,
> 3) if this is not possible (".com" or Slovak using a Czech domain,
> etc.), in this case there should be a possibility to call manually a
> QT (as Miguel Urech described on Saturday in
> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
> And depending on this language information
> 1) %CharSet is defined,
> 2) %Language is defined and
> 3) different text templates are used

I would suggest something based on the following.

Assume for you want to have specific Hungarian, Russian and Czech
language options, and will use English if none of the above apply.


1. Set up a new message template like this:

 [ New Message Template ]
%QInclude(SetLanguage)


Cyrille
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [ End New Message Template ]


2. Create SetLanguage QT to select an appropriate language like this

 [ SetLanguage QT ]
%REM=^%-

Set language based on recipient's addressbook memo entry containing a
line starting "Language:" followed by the language code

If this doesn't exist, use the TLD in the recipient's address

^%-
%-
%_SetLang='%SetPattRegExp="(?im)^Language:\s*[a-z]{2}$"%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo'
%If:^%_SetLang^<>^^:^%Language=%_SetLang^:^%-
%-
%Rem="No language entry in the addressbook"%-
%-
%_SLDomain='%SetPattRegExp="\.([^\.]*?)$"%RegExpMatch("%ToAddr")%-'
%_SetLang="AM"%-
%-
%If:'%_SLDomain'='cz':'%_SetLang="CZ"'%-
%If:'%_SLDomain'='ru':'%_SetLang="RU"'%-
%If:'%_SLDomain'='hu':'%_SetLang="HU"'%-^
%-
%If:"%_SetLang"="AM":"%QInclude(EN_Template)":%-
%If:"%_SetLang"="CZ":"%QInclude(CZ_Template)":%-
%If:"%_SetLang"="RU":"%QInclude(RU_Template)":%-
%If:"%_SetLang"="HU":"%QInclude(HU_Template)":%-

 [ End SetLanguage QT ]


3. Set up language templates called EN_Template, HU_Template, RU_Template
and CZ_Template that set up the appropriate attributes. I don't speak
Hungarian, Russian or Czech, so I don't know what greetings or other text
you might want in it, but the English one might simply look like this

- [ EN_Template QT ]
%Language=AM%-
%CharSet="ISO-8859-1"
%Qinclude(Greet_All_Recipients)

%Cursor

--
Best regards,
- [ End EN_Template QT ]

Where Greet_All_Recipients is a QT in the library at
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html that puts in the first
name of all recipients on the TO list.

So the new message template puts in your name and email address at the
end, and calls the SetLanguage QT to get the right language template.
Then the language template sets the language and charset and language
specific parts of the message.

Now, I haven't checked that it all works precisely as I have set out. I
haven't debugged it, and you would need to create Reply and Forward
message templates in a similar way. However, it shouldn't be too
difficult to do.

Note also that I don't use the %CharSet macro, so I have only guessed
at how it is set.

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Problems Submitting Bug Reports

[Brien King]

TBUDL,

  Well, I submitted a bug report (Using the option
under the Help menu) and I received the following
message back:

The original message was received at Wed, 26 May 2004 02:36:32 +0300
from [216.140.43.77]) []

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> delayed. Negative "RCPT TO" reply from argus.ritlabs.com 
[195.138.101.49]. Host
'argus.ritlabs.com' says: "450 4.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
via
[212.56.194.247] to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> denied for 600 seconds".


Anyone else getting this?


Thanks,

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2.10.03

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo TBUDL,

Recently I downloaded TB 2.10.03
Tried to install it, but the install exe would run, that is to say the
task manager claimed it was somewhere in memory, but no installing.
Upon running a second, third or umptieth time would give me as many
ghosts in memory as installing efforts.
Rebooting didn't do any good (except for killing ghosts of course)

Just now I found a way to install it, I extracted the installsation
file with WinRar and copied everything to my TB directory.

I've never encountered this before. I'm running W98 on a PII. The only
change in config after installing 2.04.07 that I recall, is installing
WinRar. And I can't imagine that being the problem. (Well, I might've
updated some programs.)

Anybody encountering the same problem?

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Re: viewing HTML messages in specific folders only

[Leif Gregory]

Hi DB,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 17:31:23 [GMT -0500] (which was 4:31 PM where
I live) you wrote:
D> I'd like to view messages in HTML in only a specific set of
D> folders(trusted messages). Is this possible in any form(or even the
D> inverse as I could check off folders not to view in HTML)?

Not that I'm aware of. But that sounds like a nice idea.



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Re: Accessing Hotmail accounts using The Bat!

[Paul Cartwright]

C2> Can anyone point me to a FAQ or other information on how to configure
C2> The Bat! to access one's Hotmail or Yahoo mail accounts.

yahoopops.

and there just happens to be a new update for yahoopops, that I didn't
have!
http://yahoopops.sourceforge.net/

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viewing HTML messages in specific folders only

[DB]

Been looking through the archives for awhile(view+folder+HTML gives a good number of 
hits)
and haven't been able to find anything related.

I'd like to view messages in HTML in only a specific set of folders(trusted messages).
Is this possible in any form(or even the inverse as I could check off folders not to 
view in HTML)?

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Re[2]: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Russell L. Farabee]

Hello Leif,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 4:42:50 PM, you wrote:

LG> Kick back?

LG> Nope.. If you fix the missing quote I'm sure it'll work...

LG> If it doesn't make sure you aren't using the HTML editor to create the
LG> message. Just create it in the plaintext editor.

I included the quote before I sent it.  And I was using the microed editor.
I don't have any outgoing filters, so I don't know what's going on.  Fyi, I
typed in exactly the following, except that the first HTML was totally enclosed.
So, I'm clueless.

HTML>

 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Click here
 




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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Russell,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 16:44:03 [GMT -0500] (which was 3:44 PM where
I live) you wrote:
RLF> Well, that didn't work for me either. Think I ought to reinstall?
RLF> I've now had two messages kick back while screwing around with
RLF> this.

Kick back?

Nope.. If you fix the missing quote I'm sure it'll work...

If it doesn't make sure you aren't using the HTML editor to create the
message. Just create it in the plaintext editor.




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Re[2]: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Russell L. Farabee]

Hello Leif,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 4:12:20 PM, you wrote:

LG> Hmmm. Well let's start real basic like.


Well, that didn't work for me either.  Think I ought to reinstall?  I've now had
two messages kick back while screwing around with this.


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Re: Accessing Hotmail accounts using The Bat!

[jwayne]

On Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 5:08:43 PM, Code 2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

C2> This has probably been addressed a dozen times here, but I'm new to
C2> the list, so 

C2> Can anyone point me to a FAQ or other information on how to configure
C2> The Bat! to access one's Hotmail or Yahoo mail accounts.

Here's a freebie that will allow you to access Hotmail via pop software.

http://www.softpedia.com/public/cat/10/3/3/10-3-3-84.shtml

I haven't tried it and just use Outlook to access my Hotmail account. (OE also
works with it.)

Don't know about Yahoo; I let that email account lapse because of an amazing
amount of spam...

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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Russell,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 16:37:53 [GMT -0500] (which was 3:37 PM where
I live) you wrote:

Ok... You're getting there. You must not have seen Tim's e-mail to me.
I missed putting in a " after the:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It should be:

HTML>


mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Click here




I think it'll work fine once you fix that.


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Re[2]: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Russell L. Farabee]

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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Tim,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 22:26:33 [GMT +0100] (which was 3:26 PM where
I live) you wrote:
TS> I think you have mis-matched quotes, which, when I tried it,
TS> caused the link not to appear - tweaked below (and the quote
TS> characters removed. You still need a < before the HTML>

Whoops.. Thanks for the catch.. I apparently wasn't paying close
attention. 



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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Leif,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 15:12:20 [GMT -0600] (which was 3:12 PM where
I live) you wrote:
LG> If this doesn't work, then the only possibility I can think of is
LG> some outgoing filter you have that's munging something.


H. I was just thinking (and I'm sure I broke something) 

Make sure when you're composing the message, you are doing it as
plaintext. Do not create it using the HTML editor. I could see where
maybe that's causing the problem.




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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Tim Sharrock]

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 10:12:20 PM, Leif Gregory wrote:
> Type the below, but you'll need to put the < in front of the first
> HTML. I took it out otherwise it might convert my message to HTML and
> you couldn't see it without viewing source.

I think you have mis-matched quotes, which, when I tried it,
caused the link not to appear - tweaked below (and the
quote characters removed. You still need a < before the HTML>

HTML>


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Re: signature delimiter

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Cyrille,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 22:58:09 [GMT +0200] (which was 2:58 PM where
I live) you wrote:
C> In theory the mistake might be at 4 different places:
C> 1) the end-user,

Possible.

C> 2) TB,

Possible, but unlikely.

C> 3) the Internet service provider

Possible.

C> 4) the moderator.

Very unlikely. Switching between one of your messages and another
message that does have the correct sig delimiter, it's very apparent
using the Rich Text Viewer as to which message has a proper sig
delimiter. Everything below a proper sig delimiter is light grey in
color.

C> -2) To be honest, I do not know how to check whether I have the
C> space after the two dashes. The praised "free caret" or "virtual
C> space" method of MicroEd makes it impossible to know whether you
C> have a space at the end of a line or not.

Turn on the rich text viewer in:

Options, Preferences, Viewer/Editor, and set the "View plaintext
messages" to Rich Text/HTML viewer.

Send yourself an e-mail and look at your message that's returned. Now
compare it with the on in the sent folder. If your sent message shows
everything below the sig delimiter as light grey but your received
test message does not, then we can probably say it's your SMTP server
that's doing it, and if so, they are munging your message body which
is wrong.

If neither your sent nor received message show light grey below the
sig delimiter, then let me know and we'll troubleshoot further from
there.


C> Couldn't it be the auto-wrap or auto-format features which strip
C> end of line spaces away

It's possible. Try turning them off.


C> -3) Couldn't it be possible that some ISP strip off end of line spaces???

Possible again, the above test will tell.


C> -4) How do you, moderators, filter the bad delimiters out?

Using Rich Text/HTML viewer. It's *immediately* apparent when someone
does not have a proper sig delimiter as it's *not* grey below the sig
delimiter.


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Accessing Hotmail accounts using The Bat!

[Code 2]

This has probably been addressed a dozen times here, but I'm new to
the list, so 

Can anyone point me to a FAQ or other information on how to configure
The Bat! to access one's Hotmail or Yahoo mail accounts.

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Re: signature delimiter

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 10:58:09 PM, you wrote:
C> -2) To be honest, I do not know how to check whether I have the space
C> after the two dashes. The praised "free caret" or "virtual space"
C> method of MicroEd makes it impossible to know whether you have a space
C> at the end of a line or not.

Hi Cyrille,

Mark the line with your mouse holding the left button.
The space should be visible in the reverse/marked view.
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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Russell,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 16:07:39 [GMT -0500] (which was 3:07 PM where
I live) you wrote:
RLF> For whatever reason, the source of your messages and mine is
RLF> entirely different. Yours is very simple. Mine has a bunch of
RLF> garbage about styles, etc. I'm lost. I've burned too much time.
RLF> It could be time to change email programs.


Hmmm. Well let's start real basic like.

Reply to this message, and totally remove everything from the message
body. No, "hi", no signature etc.

Type the below, but you'll need to put the < in front of the first
HTML. I took it out otherwise it might convert my message to HTML and
you couldn't see it without viewing source.

HTML>


mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Click here




Remember, start with a complete blank body.

If this doesn't work, then the only possibility I can think of is some
outgoing filter you have that's munging something.



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Re[2]: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Russell L. Farabee]

Hello Leif,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 3:01:30 PM, you wrote:

LG>> Whoops... Let's try again with proper paragraph markings.

LG> So, if you want to see what I did, on my previous post, select it and
LG> hit F9 to view the source. It's not quite proper HTML spec, but I was
LG> just trying to make the point.

I've been trying for the last ten minutes to duplicate your results with no success, 
so I must be doing something stupid.  

I did exactly what you suggested, using a reply.  I didn't want to inundate the list, 
so I sent email to myself.  

I even copied your source to an entirely new message with no luck.

I created a new message and typed the information.

So, given that I need to put this in a template.  Can you duplicate your success using 
a template?  I certainly cannot. I'm a bit frustrated.  Any other ideas on what I'm 
doing wrong?

For whatever reason, the source of your messages and mine is entirely different.  
Yours is very simple.  Mine has a bunch of garbage about styles, etc.  I'm lost.  I've 
burned too much time.  It could be time to change email programs.
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signature delimiter

[Cyrille]

Hello Mr Moderator,

During the last three days about 10% of the list traffic has been
about wrong signature delimiters. (!!)
The problem was most of the time the missing space after the two dashes.

In theory the mistake might be at 4 different places:
1) the end-user,
2) TB,
3) the Internet service provider  or
4) the moderator.

-1) I have been trying both: Manually typing my "line break - dash -
dash - space - line break, and inserting the %UMPCUTHERE macro of U.M.P.
(TextUtils ver. 1.0 by Stanislav V. Mikov).
Each time I got your exhortation.

-2) To be honest, I do not know how to check whether I have the space
after the two dashes. The praised "free caret" or "virtual space"
method of MicroEd makes it impossible to know whether you have a space
at the end of a line or not.

Couldn't it be the auto-wrap or auto-format features which strip end
of line spaces away

-3) Couldn't it be possible that some ISP strip off end of line spaces???

-4) How do you, moderators, filter the bad delimiters out?


This message comes without signature or delimiter...





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Re: Strange error message

[DB]

I'd try running a 'registry cleaner' program for invalid entries.
There are several around, one in particular is AATools 
http://www.glocksoft.com/download.htm

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Re[2]: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Marc Lewis]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Leif,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 2:59:31 PM, Leif Gregory wrote:

LG> Here's an "a href"

LG> E-mail me baby!

Though the coding didn't carry through on this reply, the "E-mail me
baby!" appeared as a active link in the message at this end. Mouseover
revealed "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

- --
*
*  Best regards,
*  Marc.
*  New Orleans, LA (USA)
*  FIDONET=1:396/45  INTELEC=239:600/70
*  INTERNET: marc.lewis at sstar dot com
*  TELNET://sursum-corda.com
*  BBS, DATA & FAX: 1-504-897-6006
*

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Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3
Comment: ""

iQA/AwUBQLOpS/ku/tz1Eg1XEQL+ugCeIYUB2pIKpN4gBQTf52BJaEPBbWkAnj2W
4/PVlNvGtDDUQgw2wFMil2cN
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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Mary Bull]

Hello Leif!

On Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 2:59 PM, you wrote:

LG> Whoops... Let's try again with proper paragraph markings.

Much better! In my plain-text view, the earlier post came in looking
like a long telegram in the style of the 1940s!!

I did try to reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I concluded I shouldn't
choke up the electronic medium, and so I didn't send it. 

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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Leif,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 13:59:31 [GMT -0600] (which was 1:59 PM where
I live) you wrote:
LG> Whoops... Let's try again with proper paragraph markings.

So, if you want to see what I did, on my previous post, select it and
hit F9 to view the source. It's not quite proper HTML spec, but I was
just trying to make the point.


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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Russell,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 14:46:57 [GMT -0500] (which was 1:46 PM where
I live) you wrote:

LG>> Maybe I'm not fully understanding what you mean. Could you maybe post an 
example or explain it a bit more.

LG>> If you just want to make a hyperlink in an e-mail, the HTML should be a simple 
 tag.

LG>> Am I on the wrong tangent?

RLF> One of us is.  I am unable to insert html code directly into the email.  The 
toolbar has to be used and when I try inserting through the template, that doesn't 
work either. 

Whoops... Let's try again with proper paragraph markings.

Here's an "a href"

E-mail me baby!

RLF> I'm confused about the separator.  I thought that's what the following was.  
It comes directly out of the template.




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Strange error message

[lpereira]

I'm using The Bat! Version 2.10.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4

I recovered a older installation of all the OS from a copy of
Drive Image (Power Quest).

Now when in open The Bat i am gettint a message: "it seems that
something is present in your registry, but it is not corrupted".

If i close this message The Bat works fine.

I uninstalled the program and reinstalled it. Also I cleaned the
registry for all references to The Bat and installed a
never versión but the unconfortable message appears again and
again.

What i cand do?

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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Russell,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 14:46:57 [GMT -0500] (which was 1:46 PM where
I live) you wrote:
RLF> One of us is. I am unable to insert html code directly into the
RLF> email. The toolbar has to be used and when I try inserting
RLF> through the template, that doesn't work either.

Ok, all I did to this reply was to put the HTML and BODY tag at the
very top, and then close them at the very end. Right below, I'm
including an "a href" tag.

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">E-mail me baby!


RLF> I'm confused about the separator. I thought that's what the
RLF> following was. It comes directly out of the template.

Check your sig delimiter. Most likely it's missing the training space.

Sorry if the below cutline doesn't work. Never quite tried this with
HTML mail.


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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Dan Grunberg]

Tue, 25 May 2004 09:53:49 -0500 (10:53 AM  here) Russell L. Farabee wrote:

> Hello To All,

> I have tried every way possible, but I cannot seem to have a working
> reply email address link except in the MicroEd Editor.  I am trying
> to send out a group of mass mail emails to individuals (each
> addressed to an individual) and for reasons not worth getting into,
> I need to use HTML.  I've searched through all of the archives and
> found no answer and haven't heard back from support.

> So far, it seems the only way to do that is to open each email
> individually and insert the URL for the email address using the
> toolbar.

> Is there some work around?  Perhaps make one master email and in
> some way to use regular expressions to then send from the address
> book?  I'm pretty much lost here.  The templates work great with the
> MicroEd editor, but when you start trying to use them with html, you
> lose all of the benefits of html.  I can't figure out how to format
> different parts of the text or otherwise do anything other than type
> in the message.  While I hate to resort to Outlook, I'm beginning to
> think that may be my only solution, although I (strange as it may
> seem) have NEVER used it.  Another learning curve.

> I am sending this request to both the TBUDL and TBTECH lists.

If I understand you correctly, it might help you to look at:

TheBat! => Help => Help Topics and find BCC.




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Re[2]: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Russell L. Farabee]

Hello Leif,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 2:03:22 PM, you wrote:

LG> Maybe I'm not fully understanding what you mean. Could you maybe post
LG> an example or explain it a bit more.

LG> If you just want to make a hyperlink in an e-mail, the HTML should be
LG> a simple  tag.

LG> Am I on the wrong tangent?

One of us is.  I am unable to insert html code directly into the email.  The toolbar 
has to be used and when I try inserting through the template, that doesn't work either.

I'm confused about the separator.  I thought that's what the following was.  It comes 
directly out of the template.
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Re[2]: Problem with mail and $KNOWN$ folder...

[WilWilWil]

Hi,

It is the only one filter...



WilWilWil
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

==Original message text===

From: Edgar van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 8:38:38 AM
Subject: Problem with mail and $KNOWN$ folder...

EvD> Hello WilWilWil,

EvD> On Monday, May 24, 2004, 6:04:21 PM, Peter answered you:

W>>> WHY the mails of my friends (who are in my addresses
W>>> book) go to the receipt folder
W>>> and not in the KNOWN receipt folder ?

P>> Is the Known filter activated? (Account » Sorting Office/Filters »
P>> Incoming mail)

EvD> And if this filter is active is it before the other filters or on
EvD> the bottom?



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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Russell,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 11:19:42 [GMT -0500] (which was 10:19 AM where
I live) you wrote:
RLF> Thanks, but it didn't work.  It pulls the text, but not the url.


Maybe I'm not fully understanding what you mean. Could you maybe post
an example or explain it a bit more.

If you just want to make a hyperlink in an e-mail, the HTML should be
a simple  tag.

Am I on the wrong tangent?

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Re: "View follow up"?

[Carsten Thönges]

* Christopher Brown writes:

> I seem to remember once finding a useful thing: View follow up (my
> nomenclature). So, if I had a message displayed, I selected view
> follow up and it would show the email I had sent in reply to that
> one.

Try Specials -> Open Reply or just press Ctrl+Backspace.

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Re: "View follow up"?

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Christopher,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 11:10:47 [GMT -0700] (which was 12:10 PM where
I live) you wrote:
CB> I seem to remember once finding a useful thing: View follow up (my
CB> nomenclature). So, if I had a message displayed, I selected view
CB> follow up and it would show the email I had sent in reply to that
CB> one.

CB> I can no longer find this feature. Did I dream it? 

Nope. Right click the message, choose Specials, Open Reply, or
CTRL-BKSPACE.



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Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB

[Paul Cartwright]

On Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 2:36 PM, you wrote:

G>>> I am using version 7, but I believe the same plugin is used for version 6
G>>> and 7.
G>>> Check the version number under options-preferences-anti virus

PC>> mine says 6.0.690

G> Paul,
G> There must be 2 versions then. One for version 6 and one for version 7

I think you are right!I keep my AVG updated daily ( check daily..).


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Re: macro which returns the domain extension of the %toaddr

[Carsten Thönges]

* Cyrille writes:

> I would like to write a QT which returns the domain extension of
> the %toaddr (like "com", "net", "pl", "cz", etc).

%SetPattRegExp="\.([^\.]*?)$"%-
%RegExpMatch("%ToAddr")

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Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 8:07:30 PM, you wrote:
G>> I am using version 7, but I believe the same plugin is used for version 6
G>> and 7.
G>> Check the version number under options-preferences-anti virus

PC> mine says 6.0.690

Paul,
There must be 2 versions then. One for version 6 and one for version 7

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Re[2]: multi-language templates

[Cyrille]

Hello Robin,

Monday, May 24, 2004, 5:00:53 AM, you wrote:

raoca> If you want to set a language for existing addressbook entries (as
raoca> opposed to being able to set a language in a reply to a previously
raoca> unknown sender), one approach would be to use the addressbook memo field

Is there a (semi-)automated way to insert such a line in hundreds of AB
entries?

raoca> For recipients that don't use your standard language,

Unfortunately I do not have any "standard" language.

raoca> you could include a
raoca> line in the memo field that looks like "language: FR" and include in your
raoca> message template a macro that searches for such an entry in this field. I
raoca> currently do this for setting read and delivery receipt requests, and for
raoca> selecting which signatures to use for particular recipients.
raoca> If you create the following QT, it will look for "language: XX" on a line
raoca> by itself in the memo field of the first recipient of the message, and
raoca> set the language of the message accordingly. Other information in the
raoca> memo field (on other lines) will not affect the language setting.

I find your proposition very helpful, and I would like to use it.
But I am afraid of manually adding a line to all my AB entries.

And since reality is more complicated than any theory I guess that I
will forget sometimes to add this line to each new contact. That is
why I dream about the following solution:

When composing a message (new or reply),
1) your QT could get the language information from the AB memo field,
2) if there is no such info, the recipient's address domain extension
is used to determine the language,
3) if this is not possible (".com" or Slovak using a Czech domain,
etc.), in this case there should be a possibility to call manually a
QT (as Miguel Urech described on Saturday in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
And depending on this language information
1) %CharSet is defined,
2) %Language is defined and
3) different text templates are used

Sounds good, doesn't it? - Who writes the code? (-:

If I get this working I will uninstall MS Outlook from my machine. (-:

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Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 6:26:05 PM, you wrote:
ML> Perhaps you didn't understand the question: You mentioned a new
ML> plug-in for AVG. I wasn't concerned with an update for the AVG7
ML> program itself (which is quite automatic - at least on this
ML> workstation.) The plug-in is, TTBOMK, a separate entity from the AVG
ML> program itself; an interface module for TB! to use.

Hi Marc,

I did understand the question and the plugin was updated recently in
version 7 sing the procedure I described.

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"View follow up"?

[Christopher Brown]

Hi List,

I seem to remember once finding a useful thing: View follow up (my nomenclature). So, 
if I had a message displayed, I selected view follow up and it would show the email I 
had sent in reply to that one. 

I can no longer find this feature. Did I dream it? 

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Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB

[Paul Cartwright]

On Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 8:34 AM, you wrote:

GS>> Is this for the free version 6 or version 7?


G> I am using version 7, but I believe the same plugin is used for version 6
G> and 7.
G> Check the version number under options-preferences-anti virus

mine says 6.0.690

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macro which returns the domain extension of the %toaddr

[Cyrille]

Hello list,

I have to ask the following question not because TB does not do what
it should, but because I am not able to do what I should. (-:

I would like to write a QT which returns the domain extension of
the %toaddr (like "com", "net", "pl", "cz", etc).

I have the impression that this should not be very difficult. But
after having spend some hours on the tutorials and trying around
without success, I would like to ask some help.

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Re: Applying A Filter To 'Sent' Folder

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Ken,

@25-May-2004, 11:53 -0500 (25-May 17:53 UK time) ken green [K] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

K> How do you know the question was about local filters?

Because he was talking about messages moving from outbox to the
default "sent" folder and making some specific sent folders as
sub-folders of the default Sent folder - all particularly local
phenomena.

K> I didn't get that from the original post. Although upon a few
K> more re-readings, I would probably assume he is talking about a
K> POP account.

Well ... SMTP.

K> Also (and this is just for my own knowledge), when you say "local
K> filters" does that only apply to POP? I would interpret local
K> filters as filters that happen client-side (POP or IMAP) as
K> opposed to server-side (IMAP only).

K> Am I wrong about that?

Well - to be a complete pedant about it, we're actually talking
about client side SMTP. In a non-IMAP environment, Incoming message
filters are for client side POP while Outgoing filters are for
client side SMTP.

>> I accept that IMAP has problems and wouldn't have attempted to
>> answer any IMAP questions since I don't use the protocol myself
>> :-).

K> I just got my laptop back in commission and will be trying out
K> betas again, but as I posted earlier, 2.10.03 has been pretty
K> good to me - using IMAP.

K> I know there are still problems, but 2.10.03 is a *HUGE*
K> improvement in usability, functionality and performance for me. I
K> must admit that I don't do anything fancy right now - too scared
K> to ;) I'm saving the "tough stuff" for my laptop, where I can
K> afford multiple re-installs, etc.

I'm still feeling smugly glad to be out of the way of the IMAP
proving grounds. All much too hairy for my tastes!

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Re: the bat! and its plug-ins

[Marc Lewis]

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Hello Claude,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 11:57:31 AM, Claude Renaud wrote:

CR> I  would like to know if on the internet, on the Ritlabs' website,
CR> or anywhere else, there is a page which gathers all plug-ins which
CR> have been developped for The Bat!. If no, do you think it could be
CR> a  good  idea  to  create  such one so that we could have a unique
CR> place  where  to  go  in  order  to  know about their development,
CR> information about various projects etc ?

On the Ritlabs web site choose the "Knowledge Base" for The Bat!.
There you'll find links to various plugins and macros that other folks
have written.

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*  Marc.
*  New Orleans, LA (USA)
*  FIDONET=1:396/45  INTELEC=239:600/70
*  INTERNET: marc.lewis at sstar dot com
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the bat! and its plug-ins

[Claude Renaud]

Hi,

  
I would like to know if on the internet, on the Ritlabs'
website, or anywhere else, there is a page which gathers all plug-ins
which have been developped for The Bat!.
If no, do you think it could be a good idea to create such one  so
that we could have a unique place where to go in order to know about their
development, information about various projects etc ?

-- 

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Re: Applying A Filter To 'Sent' Folder

[ken green]

Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
> Sorry for any confusion for you there Ken. I was just answering the
> question asked, which was about local filters for local folders
> using the local outbox and local sent message folders. Nothing to do
> with IMAP there.

How do you know the question was about local filters?  I didn't get
that from the original post.  Although upon a few more re-readings, I
would probably assume he is talking about a POP account.

Also (and this is just for my own knowledge), when you say "local
filters" does that only apply to POP?  I would interpret local filters
as filters that happen client-side (POP or IMAP) as opposed to
server-side (IMAP only).

Am I wrong about that?


> I accept that IMAP has problems and wouldn't have attempted to
> answer any IMAP questions since I don't use the protocol myself :-).

I just got my laptop back in commission and will be trying out betas
again, but as I posted earlier, 2.10.03 has been pretty good to me -
using IMAP.

I know there are still problems, but 2.10.03 is a *HUGE* improvement
in usability, functionality and performance for me. I must admit that
I don't do anything fancy right now - too scared to ;) I'm saving the
"tough stuff" for my laptop, where I can afford multiple re-installs,
etc.

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Re[2]: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB

[Marc Lewis]

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Hello Gerard,

Monday, May 24, 2004, 1:20:48 PM, Gerard wrote:

ML>> URL for this plugin update?

G> That is either automatic are you have he press the update button on
G> the AVG console. You need to have the AVG anti virus system
G> installed, not just the plugin. I am using Version7 which is the
G> paid for version, but you can download version6 which is free and I
G> am assuming will use the same plugin.

Perhaps you didn't understand the question: You mentioned a new
plug-in for AVG. I wasn't concerned with an update for the AVG7
program itself (which is quite automatic - at least on this
workstation.) The plug-in is, TTBOMK, a separate entity from the AVG
program itself; an interface module for TB! to use.

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*  Marc.
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Re[2]: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Russell L. Farabee]

Hello Leif,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 10:59:38 AM, you wrote:

LG> Don't know if this will work, but create the HTML file outside of TB
LG> and save it (make sure it's just the page you want to display). Then
LG> in TB us the %PUT macro to PUT the external HTML file in.

Thanks, but it didn't work.  It pulls the text, but not the url.


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Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Leif Gregory]

Hi Russell,

On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 09:53:49 [GMT -0500] (which was 8:53 AM where
I live) you wrote:
RLF> I have tried every way possible, but I cannot seem to have a
RLF> working reply email address link except in the MicroEd Editor. I
RLF> am trying to send out a group of mass mail emails to individuals
RLF> (each addressed to an individual) and for reasons not worth
RLF> getting into, I need to use HTML. I've searched through all of
RLF> the archives and found no answer and haven't heard back from
RLF> support.

Don't know if this will work, but create the HTML file outside of TB
and save it (make sure it's just the page you want to display). Then
in TB us the %PUT macro to PUT the external HTML file in.

In the HTML file, don't forget to put your
Whatever

for your reply mail address.


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Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML

[Russell L. Farabee]

Hello To All,

I have tried every way possible, but I cannot seem to have a working reply email 
address link except in the MicroEd Editor.  I am trying to send out a group of mass 
mail emails to individuals (each addressed to an individual) and for reasons not worth 
getting into, I need to use HTML.  I've searched through all of the archives and found 
no answer and haven't heard back from support.

So far, it seems the only way to do that is to open each email individually and insert 
the URL for the email address using the toolbar.

Is there some work around?  Perhaps make one master email and in some way to use 
regular expressions to then send from the address book?  I'm pretty much lost here.  
The templates work great with the MicroEd editor, but when you start trying to use 
them with html, you lose all of the benefits of html.  I can't figure out how to 
format different parts of the text or otherwise do anything other than type in the 
message.  While I hate to resort to Outlook, I'm beginning to think that may be my 
only solution, although I (strange as it may seem) have NEVER used it.  Another 
learning curve.

I am sending this request to both the TBUDL and TBTECH lists.

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Re: Applying A Filter To 'Sent' Folder

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Ken,

@25-May-2004, 09:06 -0500 (25-May 15:06 UK time) ken green [K] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

>> It will work fine. You just need an Outgoing message filter. As long
>> as the criteria of the filter are met, the message will be moved
>> wherever you want it moved. Since this is absolutely possible and a
>> TB fundamental, you must have done something wrong.

K> Unless he is using IMAP.  For me, Outgoing filters with IMAP result in
K> Access Violations.

K> (not quite "absolutely possible" ;)

Sorry for any confusion for you there Ken. I was just answering the
question asked, which was about local filters for local folders
using the local outbox and local sent message folders. Nothing to do
with IMAP there.

I accept that IMAP has problems and wouldn't have attempted to
answer any IMAP questions since I don't use the protocol myself :-).

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Re: Applying A Filter To 'Sent' Folder

[ken green]

Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
> It will work fine. You just need an Outgoing message filter. As long
> as the criteria of the filter are met, the message will be moved
> wherever you want it moved. Since this is absolutely possible and a
> TB fundamental, you must have done something wrong.


Unless he is using IMAP.  For me, Outgoing filters with IMAP result in
Access Violations.

(not quite "absolutely possible" ;)

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Re: Applying A Filter To 'Sent' Folder

[Steve Mulhall]

Hi Marck

> wherever you want it moved. Since this is absolutely possible and a
> TB fundamental, you must have done something wrong.

Doesn't surprise me that I did something wrong. I couldn't see
anything obvious so simply recreated the filter and it now works just
fine, so I most likely had done something wrong but couldn't spot it.

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Re: Applying A Filter To 'Sent' Folder

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Steve,

@25-May-2004, 14:04 Steve Mulhall [SM] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The:

SM> is it possible to apply a filter to the 'Sent' folder?

Yes.

SM> Is it possible to do this automatically with a filter? I tried
SM> applying a filter to the 'Outbox' in the hope that once a message left
SM> there, the filter would be applied and filtered to the required
SM> folder. Needless to say it was not successful.

It will work fine. You just need an Outgoing message filter. As long
as the criteria of the filter are met, the message will be moved
wherever you want it moved. Since this is absolutely possible and a
TB fundamental, you must have done something wrong.

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Applying A Filter To 'Sent' Folder

[Steve Mulhall]

Hi all,

is it possible to apply a filter to the 'Sent' folder?

What I'd like is the 'Sent' folder to have a number of sub-folders
where I would like to place sent items depending on who I send them
to.

Is it possible to do this automatically with a filter? I tried
applying a filter to the 'Outbox' in the hope that once a message left
there, the filter would be applied and filtered to the required
folder. Needless to say it was not successful.

Many thanks

Steve Mulhall
CMC Partnership (UK) Ltd
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Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 3:21:49 AM, you wrote:
GS> Is this for the free version 6 or version 7?


Hi Greg,

I am using version 7, but I believe the same plugin is used for version 6
and 7.
Check the version number under options-preferences-anti virus
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Re: attachment folder

[Dan Greenberg]

Message received at: 5/25/2004:8:08 AM
RP> Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 2:48:37 AM, you wrote:
DG>> Where  does  Bat  2.0+ save attachments? Older versions had a
DG>> separate folder but I can't seem to find one with this.
RP>  It's under Account->Properties-> Files and Directories-> keep
RP>  attachment files -> sepearately in a special directory.
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-- 

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Re: attachment folder

[Rolands Pulkis]

Hello Dan,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 2:48:37 AM, you wrote:

DG> Where  does  Bat  2.0+ save attachments? Older versions had a separate
DG> folder but I can't seem to find one with this.

 It's under Account->Properties-> Files and Directories->
 keep attachment files ->
 sepearately in a special directory.


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Re: TB! V2.10.01 and KAV plug-in.

[Chris Weaven]

Peter Fjelsten wrote:
Is anyone currently using a KAV plug-in for TB! that is fully
working?

CW> Surely someone here is using TB! V2.10.03 with KAV successfully!?
Yes. 3.5 with the 3.0 plugin.
So no-one here is using the latest version of TB! with KAV 4.5?
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Re: This is what I do (AV/Spam)

[Tim]

On Tuesday, 25 May 2004, Raymund Thomas Tump wrote:

RTT> I used POPFile for a while but I don't like that I have to look
RTT> for the saved message every now and then to train it.

Did you know you can view the headers (Ctrl-Shift-K), and there is a
link that goes straight to the email in the POPFile interface, so you
can reclassify? In your message that I'm replying to, my headers
include:
X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:8080/jump_to_message?view=popfile162270=27.msg

RTT> The nice think with POPFile is also that you can have categories:
RTT> I made one for virus files :-)

I have one called "unwanted". When friends send me emails that are old
jokes forwarded forever, or other junk which isn't really spam because
people I regularly email thought I would be interested in it, POPFile
accurately classifies it for filtering to a separate folder.

This is what really impresses me about POPFile. In many cases there is
little obvious difference between the emails I want my friends to send
me and those I don't, yet POPFile almost always gets it right!

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Re: Mailing list

[Edgar van Dijk]

Hello Marck,

On Monday, May 24, 2004, 1:44:24 PM, you wrote:

M> Dear Marek,

M> @24-May-2004, 13:39 +0200 (24-May 12:39 UK time) Marek Mikus [MM] in
M> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>>> Whenever you want to reply to anybody off-list or click a mailto:
>>> link while that folder has the focus, messages will be redirected.
>>> Be very careful how you use folder templates.

If you want to adjust the "To Address" and have the macro
"%to=""%to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"%-" in your template, the To address
will only change if you first adjust the message body and then
change the "To address" OR ... ad this line before the "To macro"

%ModifyOnce("To")


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Re: Problem with mail and $KNOWN$ folder...

[Edgar van Dijk]

Hello WilWilWil,

On Monday, May 24, 2004, 6:04:21 PM, Peter answered you:

W>> WHY the mails of my friends (who are in my addresses
W>> book) go to the receipt folder
W>> and not in the KNOWN receipt folder ?

P> Is the Known filter activated? (Account » Sorting Office/Filters »
P> Incoming mail)

And if this filter is active is it before the other filters or on
the bottom?

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Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB

[Greg Strong]

Hello Gerard,

Monday, May 24, 2004, 10:36:46 AM, Gerard wrote:

G> There has just been a new plugin update. We are at version 7.0.245
G> now

Is this for the free version 6 or version 7?

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attachment folder

[Dan Greenberg]

Where  does  Bat  2.0+ save attachments? Older versions had a separate
folder but I can't seem to find one with this.

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a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose 
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Re: This is what I do (AV/Spam)

[Raymund Thomas Tump]

Hi Michael,

> For Anti-Virus and anti-Spam, I have settled on nod32 from eset
> (nod32.com)for anti-virus and popfile for anti-spam.

> Any other ideas or comments?

I used POPFile for a while but I don't like that I have to look for
the saved message every now and then to train it. That much nicer with
BayesIt! But with POPFile I had one advantage: I can filter the spam
mails and delete it from the server as soon the filter is trigger.
With the spam filter system of TB this isn't possible.

The nice think with POPFile is also that you can have categories: I
made one for virus files :-)

Something other that annoys me with the spam plugins of TB is that you
can automatically move mail marked as Junk to the Junk folder. But if
you mark it as not junk it is not transferred to the inbox or even
better send through the filter engine.

I think I will return to POPFile after my holyday...

Anti-Virus for me is senseless with a proxy. There is no additional
benefit. So I bought AVG which comes along with a TB plugin.

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Re: This is what I do (AV/Spam)

[William Moore]

Hello Michael

Thank you for your email dated Monday, May 24, 2004, 5:46:16 PM,
in which you wrote:

> I have settled on nod32 from eset (nod32.com)for anti-virus and
> popfile for anti-spam.

I couldn't agree with you more; especially about the 'external' bit.
Half the messages on the list seem to about getting plug-ins to work.

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Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB

[Gerard]

ON Monday, May 24, 2004, 6:01:41 PM, you wrote:
ML> URL for this plugin update?

Marc,
That is either automatic are you have he press the update button on the
AVG console. You need to have the AVG anti virus system installed, not just
the plugin. I am using Version7 which is the paid for version, but you can
download version6 which is free and I am assuming will use the same plugin.

I was telling you the version number of the plugin so you could check if
it was updated with the virus definition file.

I do not know if there is a separate plugin download.

-- 
Best regards,
 Gerard 
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I used to go to the driving range to practice driving without slicing.
Now I go to the driving range to practice slicing without swearing.

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Re: This is what I do (AV/Spam)

[Alex Ezell]

On Monday, May 24, 2004, 12:46:16 PM, Michael wrote:

>   For Anti-Virus and anti-Spam, I have settled on nod32 from eset
>   (nod32.com)for anti-virus and popfile for anti-spam.  Both are
>   external to The Bat, and work very, very well together and with the
>   bat.

>   Any other ideas or comments?

I used to use PopFile, but found its memory overhead a little
overbearing. I switched to K9 for a while which works in much the same
way but has a Windows native interface and much lower overhead.

Now I use the BayesIT plugin and all seems well.

For AV, I use the built-in hooks to the Kaspersky AV product. The new
Personal 5.0 has an entirely rebuilt interface and shows many speed
improvements, especially in relation to checking email and
attachements.

-- 
Alex



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