Re: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread Rick Friedman
On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 1:16:21 AM, Peter wrote:
PB Hello Mary,

PB Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 2:34:25 PM, you wrote:

 Can you see us?  Can everyone but me see you?

PB To be perfectly honest Mary I have no idea. Can someone else say if
PB they can see me or not please?

PB Thank you.


Sorry, Peter. I can't see you. I noticed that your picture is in the
latest rogues.zip file but your picture is not showing up in emails
you send.

In order to get your picture to be seen by others, they need to make
sure they have the latest rogues.zip file. Also, you need to do one of
two things (the first of which is preferred):

1. Place your roguemoticon in the X-Rogue header (instructions
courtesy of Leif Gregory):
   You can do that with this macro:
   %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:your_handle:)%-
   in your templates for this and other tb-lists.
   However, only the macro won't do the trick.
   TB'll say: 'Hey, that's no RFC822 header', so you'll have to
   define it as such:
   Options - Preferences - Messages - Message headers - 'Add'
   Now you'll get a pop-up to define the header
   Display as: X-Rogue (or whatever, it isn't very important)
   RFC header: X-Rogue
   Uncheck: 'This field is an address list' (because it isn't)
   Check: 'Allow this field to be edited in the message editor'
   Uncheck: 'Display this field in the scrollable part of the
   header pane'

2. You can simply place your handle in your signature. I can see
that your handle is, :Peter_Ballantyne: Place that (including the
colons) in your signature. However, people who use the plain text
viewer to read their email won't see your picture. That is why method
#1 is preferred.

--
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PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Robert Golovniov
Hello!

  Can  anybody  share  with  me  his success story of reading PGP/MIME
  signed and encrypted messages?

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Re: Edit shortcuts doesn't work

2004-07-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Robin,

@28-Jul-2004, 12:54 +1000 (28-Jul 03:54 UK time) Robin Anson said to
Marck:

 Perhaps a new shortcut key has been added that clashes with one
 you redefined earlier?

 Indeed, that is what the problem was. The question I have now is
 why did that cause the error?

That's one I can't answer. 'Because' is as far as I get.

... snip
 thing. Is the shortcut monitoring system really smart enough to
 know that the clash between the CTRL-SHIFT-R that I had defined to
 be reply to all and the same key combination TB! now defaults to
 for Connection Centre was a significant conflict??

Well, yes. And I would guess that it's not that hard to program. A
shortcut could assigned to a control ID, and not just a menu option.
Thus multiple definitions for the same ID are permissible but
sharing a key between two different IDs is not.

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Am I showing?

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Ballantyne
Hi. This is just a quick check to see if I got the thing right. I will
be looking to see my face. Please ignore. Thanks.

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Sorry folks - trying again for the rogueicon

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Ballantyne
Test message



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Re: Am I showing?

2004-07-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter,

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:40:55 +1200GMT (28-7-2004, 11:40 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

PB This is just a quick check to see if I got the thing right.

A faster check is saving the message to the outbox without sending it
and then look at it.

PB I will be looking to see my face.

I saw it.

PB Please ignore.

Oops! Didn't do that.

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Robert Golovniov,

28-Jul-2004 11:13, you wrote:

 Can anybody share with me his success story of reading PGP/MIME signed
 and encrypted messages?

What is your problem with it?

My constant annoyance is that apparently there's no way to tell TB to
ALWAYS use PGP/MIME (the switch defaults to auto but I want it on).

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Alexander,

on Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:39:58 +0200GMT, you wrote:

ASK My constant annoyance is that apparently there's no way to tell TB to
ASK ALWAYS use PGP/MIME (the switch defaults to auto but I want it on).

For this you can use the macro %USEPGP in your template, perhaps along
with %SIGNCOMPLETE.

-- 
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Peter

Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue.

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Robert,

on Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:13:09 +0300GMT, you wrote:

RG   Can  anybody  share  with  me  his success story of reading PGP/MIME
RG   signed and encrypted messages?

It works the same as inline encrypted messages, provided both
correspondents use PGP/MIME capable clients. I'll send you a PGP/MIME
encrypted mail privately.

-- 
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Peter

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Re: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Wednesday, July 28, 2004 @ 5:29:25 AM, 9Val wrote:

[snips]

9Val And  one  more  -  Smart wrapping of quoted text which doesn't work in
9Val Windows editor.

Yep, that's another big plus. Now, if they can just give the option of
proportional fonts...

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Re[2]: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Robert Golovniov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 28 eeiiy 2004 ?., 13:39:58, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK What is your problem with it?

When  I get such a message, I press the encryption button in the right
corner  and get the dialog box asking me to enter the passphrase. I do
and get something like this:

gpg: can't open `C:\Program Files\The Bat!\batD3F2.tmp'
gpg: decrypt_message failed: file open error

If I switch to PGP 8.1, pressing the button does nothing at all.

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Re[2]: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread 9Val
Hello M, 

MicCullen Now, if they can just give the option of
   
   who? :)
   
MicCullen proportional fonts...

It is impossible because needs full editor rewrite

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Re: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Wednesday, July 28, 2004 @ 7:49:26 PM, 9Val wrote:

[snips]

MicCullen Now, if they can just give the option of
9Val
9Valwho? :)

THEM!! You know, them. Man, how much clearer could I be? THEM.*
   
MicCullen proportional fonts...

9Val It is impossible because needs full editor rewrite

Sigh... sensible wrapping or proportional fonts. Sometimes I long for Agent.
(Then I remember that it can't even deal with two email accounts, and the
filtering is primitive...)

*'Them' = 'You' for sufficiently correct values of 'them' :-)

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OT: Re: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread 9Val
Hello M,  

MicCullen Now, if they can just give the option of
9Val   
9Val   who? :)

MicCullen THEM!! You know, them. Man, how much clearer could I be? THEM.*

Sounds  like  pray to known to all gods, whose names shouldn't be said
on public :))

MicCullen *'Them' = 'You' for sufficiently correct values of 'them' :-)

No, them is Stefan :)

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 7:29:09 AM, Robert wrote:

ASK What is your problem with it?

Robert When  I get such a message, I press the encryption button in the right
Robert corner  and get the dialog box asking me to enter the passphrase. I do
Robert and get something like this:

Robert gpg: can't open `C:\Program Files\The Bat!\batD3F2.tmp'
Robert gpg: decrypt_message failed: file open error

Robert If I switch to PGP 8.1, pressing the button does nothing at all.

Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it
says that your key has a bad signature.

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PGP and sig delimiter

2004-07-28 Thread Plan9
I just looked at the source of one of my PGP signed messages and
noticed that the sig delimiter had been changed from dash dash space
to --=20.  I think I know why - to preserve the space -, but who
changed the space to =20?  TheBat! or PGP?

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Re: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:25:19 GMT, M i c C u l l e n wrote:

 9Val And  one  more  -  Smart wrapping of quoted text which
 doesn't work in 9Val Windows editor.
 
 Yep, that's another big plus. Now, if they can just give the
 option of proportional fonts...
 
Much agreed.  That would be a very desireable combination.

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Re[2]: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Robert Golovniov
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On July 28, 2004, 15:55:57, Plan9 wrote:

P Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it
P says that your key has a bad signature.

You  are right. Perhaps that is because of the encoding problems. As I
type  this  message,  I  have  the  date  in the first line spelled in
Ukrainian.  So,  I  will  try  to sign it and send. Then I will do the
same, but will change the date into English. Let's see...

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Re[2]: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Robert Golovniov
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On 28 eeiiy 2004 ?., 15:55:57, Plan9 wrote:

P Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it
P says that your key has a bad signature.

You  are right. Perhaps that is because of the encoding problems. As I
type  this  message,  I  have  the  date  in the first line spelled in
Ukrainian.  So,  I  will  try  to sign it and send. Then I will do the
same, but will change the date into English. Let's see...

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Alexander S. Kunz

-
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, at 12:39:58 [GMT +0200] (which was 3:39 AM where
I live) you wrote:

 My constant annoyance is that apparently there's no way to tell TB to
 ALWAYS use PGP/MIME (the switch defaults to auto but I want it on).

You could put %pgpmime in your templates.


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New Mail Sound

2004-07-28 Thread nurbles
In the two years I've been using The Bat, I've never
managed to get the New Mail Notification Sound working
the way I'd like.  There are always some messages that
are treated opposite of what I want (sound when I want
silence or silence when I want sound).

It seems that if I disable sound for the account, then
I can NEVER have sound played for any messages, even
when their filters explicitly say to play a sound.

It also seems that if I enable sound for the account,
then it is almost impossible to convince a filtered
message to *NOT* play a sound.  I say this because the
'Play Sound' action is UNCHECKED BY DEFAULT in new
filters, yet they ALWAYS play the new mail sound!
The best I've been able to come up with is to set the
'sound allowed' time to 5:59-6:00am only.  Unfortunately,
even this doesn't always seem to work.

Any suggestions on how to have all of the filters I
have set to 'mark read' the matching messages to be
SILENT when new mail arrives for them?  And conversly,
to have the others play the new mail sound?

And FWIW, while I cannot currently think up an easier
way to adjust all of the filters, the existing way is
painful at best.  I must manually go down the list one
at a time, look at the TOP action (mark read) to decide
how I want the BOTTOM action (play sound) to be set.
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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 10:17:07 AM, Robert wrote:

Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Robert Hash: SHA1

Robert On 28 eeiiy 2004 ?., 15:55:57, Plan9 wrote:

P Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it
P says that your key has a bad signature.

Robert You  are right. Perhaps that is because of the encoding problems. As I
Robert type  this  message,  I  have  the  date  in the first line spelled in
Robert Ukrainian.  So,  I  will  try  to sign it and send. Then I will do the
Robert same, but will change the date into English. Let's see...

This message produces a bad signature.

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 10:17:47 AM, Robert wrote:

Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Robert Hash: SHA1

Robert On July 28, 2004, 15:55:57, Plan9 wrote:

P Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it
P says that your key has a bad signature.

Robert You  are right. Perhaps that is because of the encoding problems. As I
Robert type  this  message,  I  have  the  date  in the first line spelled in
Robert Ukrainian.  So,  I  will  try  to sign it and send. Then I will do the
Robert same, but will change the date into English. Let's see...

This message produces a good signature.

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Re: Sorry folks - trying again for the rogueicon

2004-07-28 Thread Zonnet

ON Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 11:44:23 AM, you wrote:
PB Test message


PB 
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Hi Peter,

We can see you now :-)

But as you can see, you need a signature delimiter quick before the trouts
start flying.


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Re: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mary Bull,

27-Jul-2004 23:59, you wrote:

 I then find Utilities/Format Block (I choose Left from this drop-down
 Menu) in the Edit Mail Message window extremely helpful. I position the
 cursor anywhere on the long line and click on Format Block/Left, and my
 copy-and-paste is hard-wrapped, ready for sending except for attribution.

Thats one of my favorite functions, too!

Btw. the non-mouse persons :-) will press ALT + L for that function. It
works equally well on long pasted lines or quotes text that is out of
bound.

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Kevin Amazon,

28-Jul-2004 16:27, you wrote:

 My constant annoyance is that apparently there's no way to tell TB to
 ALWAYS use PGP/MIME (the switch defaults to auto but I want it on).

 You could put %pgpmime in your templates.

I always thought that this would automatically sign and/or crypt the
message?

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Alexander S. Kunz

-
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, at 17:32:20 [GMT +0200] (which was 8:32 AM where
I live) you wrote:

 I always thought that this would automatically sign and/or crypt the
 message?

%PGPMIME sets the PGP/MIME option to on for
the current message to ensure that the PGJP/MIME format is used when
the message is signed OR encrypted. Obviously, if you want to use
PGP/MIME, you want to sign your messages. Yes?

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Re: New Mail Sound

2004-07-28 Thread Michael L. Wilson
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Hello nurbles,

On Wednesday, July 28, 2004 , at 10:31:23[GMT -0400](which was 7:31 AM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):


n Any suggestions on how to have all of the filters I
n have set to 'mark read' the matching messages to be
n SILENT when new mail arrives for them?  And conversly,
n to have the others play the new mail sound?

Sounds in TB! are and always have been 100% trial and error for me.  I
finally got to the point where I gave up and made TB! silent.  I have
tried what you have tried, and never got it to work.

Sorry.

- --
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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Kevin Amazon,

28-Jul-2004 17:43, you wrote:

 I always thought that this would automatically sign and/or crypt the
 message?

 %PGPMIME sets the PGP/MIME option to on for the current message to
 ensure that the PGJP/MIME format is used when the message is signed OR
 encrypted. Obviously, if you want to use PGP/MIME, you want to sign your
 messages. Yes?

All I want is that *if* I use PGP, it shall be PGP/MIME, always.

Not everyone whom I exchange mails with privately has and/or uses PGP.

For those that are not using it, I don't want to be bothered by requesters
that tell me no key can be found (thats why I was asking if %PGPMIME
wouldn't invoke sign/encrypt automatically), and whatnot.

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The Bat! 2.12.00 and Exchange 2000 Server (e-mail and address book)

2004-07-28 Thread Morgan Pugh
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Hi TBUDL,

I work at Xerox UK and like most large companies we use Exchange
Server for corporate e-mail and Outlook (XP) as the client.

As I had a spare few minutes today waiting for some files to copy I
decided to download and install the latest version of TB! to try out
the Exchange Server support (MAPI). Setting up e-mail was very easy
which I was happy about however I had some issues with the global
address book. This is why I am posting this :)

I tried searching Google however it didn't turn up much which was a
shame. The problem I was having was that I could not get a complete
listing from the server. I worked out that if I searched for somebody
e.g. 'Pugh, Morgan' w/o the quotes it would find me no problem however
it would not automatically download the whole address book which was
what I wanted.

Does anyone know if it is possible to download the whole address book
and then just every now and then do a sync or something similar? I
would love to be able to use TB! at work as well as at home (more
money for RitLabs as well!). Is the problem just that TB! only
supports LDAP and not the Exchange Address Book system? That seems a
little strange as, IIRC, the Exchange address book uses MAPI also.

Has anyone else managed to get the whole address book from an exchange
server in TB! ?

TIA to all who reply :)

- --
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Re: Mail download problem

2004-07-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jurgen,

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:55:25 +0200 GMT (28/07/2004, 01:55 +0700 GMT),
Jurgen Haug wrote:

 They will now be downloaded. For some reason I don't know, TB thought
 it had downloaded them already. That's my theory.

JH Hey, it worked :-) In the dispatcher, the 'read' flag was ticked
JH on all, is that normal?

Yes. It means TB should mark them as read. It does not mean that they
have already been read previously.

JH Via  webmail  they were all shown as unread.

That is another matter. The POP protocol doesn't have a flag for
already read. I read this email account via TB, i.e. POP download.
When I open the webinterface, all messages are marked as unread,
because I didn't read them with the webinterface previously.

TB keeps an internal list of messages that it has already downloaded,
so they won't be downloaded again. If I download messages in the
office, they are still considered unread at home, because these are
two different instances of TB. In your case, TB on the computer you
are using thought (for some reason I don't know) that it had
downloaded the messages onto that computer already. You can force a
re-download by ticking as I suggested.

JH Thanks for help.

You're welcome.

-- 

Cheers,
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Re: Is there a way to temporarily disable/turn-off the Connection Centre capability while The Bat! is open?

2004-07-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dan,

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:48:52 -0400 GMT (28/07/2004, 05:48 +0700 GMT),
Dan Grunberg wrote:

 To start with, you can check out the shortcut editor: View / Edit
 shortcut Keys, or the shortcut F12.

DG The shortcut to the shortcuts is Alt+F12

Yes, sorry. That happens when I work from memory...

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Alexander,

on Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:56:22 +0200GMT, you wrote:

ASK Not everyone whom I exchange mails with privately has and/or uses PGP.

ASK For those that are not using it, I don't want to be bothered by requesters
ASK that tell me no key can be found (thats why I was asking if %PGPMIME
ASK wouldn't invoke sign/encrypt automatically), and whatnot.

It should be %USEPGP. This simply sets the checkmark to Enable
OpenPGP in the Privacy menu of the message editor. In order to have
the message automatically signed, you have to add %SIGNCOMPLETE.

-- 
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Re: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Rick,

Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 12:08:54 AM, you wrote:
Rick 1. Place your roguemoticon in the X-Rogue header (instructions
Rick courtesy of Leif Gregory):

Errr. I didn't write that. I swear :grin:


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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Alexander S. Kunz

-
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, at 17:56:22 [GMT +0200] (which was 8:56 AM where
I live) you wrote:
 Hello Kevin Amazon,

 28-Jul-2004 17:43, you wrote:

 I always thought that this would automatically sign and/or crypt the
 message?

 %PGPMIME sets the PGP/MIME option to on for the current message to
 ensure that the PGJP/MIME format is used when the message is signed OR
 encrypted. Obviously, if you want to use PGP/MIME, you want to sign your
 messages. Yes?

 All I want is that *if* I use PGP, it shall be PGP/MIME, always.

 Not everyone whom I exchange mails with privately has and/or uses PGP.

 For those that are not using it, I don't want to be bothered by requesters
 that tell me no key can be found (thats why I was asking if %PGPMIME
 wouldn't invoke sign/encrypt automatically), and whatnot.


Try %USEPGP. This will enable using of OpenPGP for encryption/signing
of the current message.
-- 
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Re: The Bat! 2.12.00 and Exchange 2000 Server (e-mail and address book)

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Morgan,

On 28-07-2004 18:03, you [MP] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MP Does anyone know if it is possible to download the whole address
MP book and then just every now and then do a sync or something
MP similar? I would love to be able to use TB! at work as well as at
MP home (more money for RitLabs as well!). Is the problem just that TB!
MP only supports LDAP and not the Exchange Address Book system?

It does not work to my knowledge. I would like it to.

Please check out - and support if you wish - this request.

http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002081

MP Has anyone else managed to get the whole address book from an
MP exchange server in TB! ?

Nope.

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Re: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread Rick Friedman
On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 1:01:04 PM, Leif wrote:
LG Hello Rick,

LG Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 12:08:54 AM, you wrote:
Rick 1. Place your roguemoticon in the X-Rogue header (instructions
Rick courtesy of Leif Gregory):

LG Errr. I didn't write that. I swear :grin:

Oooops! My mistake! The instructions were courtesy of Roelof Otten.
:gdr:

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Re: PGP and sig delimiter

2004-07-28 Thread Paul Cartwright

Hello Plan9,

Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 9:27:59 AM, you wrote:

P I just looked at the source of one of my PGP signed messages and
P noticed that the sig delimiter had been changed from dash dash space
P to --=20.  I think I know why - to preserve the space -, but who
P changed the space to =20?  TheBat! or PGP?


does everyone else who signs theres show the same thing in your source
view??

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Re[2]: Multiple Web Browsers

2004-07-28 Thread Code 2
AM Code 2, [C2] wrote:
AM I'm using FireFox 0.9 and despite using Tab Browser Extensions, I
AM still have FireFox opening externally called URL's in new
AM instances rather than a new tab in an already opened instance. How
AM can I clean that up?

D Add  the  Single  Window extension available on any of the extension
D sites.  Then  there  is the reg fix for the multiple instances brought
D some threads back.


Allie, if you're already using the Tabbrowser extension and you don't
want to install another extension, just go to Tab | Tabbrowser
Extensions Preferences...  Next, select the Advanced category and
change the Window Mode to Use only one browser always (Single Window
Mode).

You can also try the Use multiple browsers only when I open them
alternative, and see which mode you prefer.

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Re: PGP and sig delimiter

2004-07-28 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 3:15:07 PM, Paul wrote:

P I just looked at the source of one of my PGP signed messages and
P noticed that the sig delimiter had been changed from dash dash space
P to --=20.

Paul does everyone else who signs theres show the same thing in your source
Paul view??

Yes.  Just pick one of the signed messages in tbudl and look at the
source.

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Re: PGP and sig delimiter

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Plan9 and list,

On Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 09:27:59 GMT -0400 (which was 15:27
where I live) Plan9 wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable
points on the subject of PGP and sig delimiter:


 I just looked at the source of one of my PGP signed messages and
 noticed that the sig delimiter had been changed from dash dash space
 to --=20.  I think I know why - to preserve the space -, but who
 changed the space to =20?  TheBat! or PGP?

I guess that depends on signing your message with PGP/MIME or inline.
Having a look at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] the
content is completely MIME decoded. looking like

:pacsnipa:

 --===0328207941==
 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol=application/pgp-signature;
 micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary=--DC1AB8F3320DC
 
 DC1AB8F3320DC
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 7:29:09 AM, Robert wrote:

...

 --=20
 Regards,
  Plan9
 On the seventh day He brewed beer
 
 DC1AB8F3320DC
 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature


:pacsnipa:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable makes the difference.

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Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Ballantyne
Well peoples,

I am still trying, but I still can't see me. And my apologies for the
sloppiness with my delimiter.

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Re: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Rick,

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:39:47 -0400GMT (28-7-2004, 19:39 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

Rick 1. Place your roguemoticon in the X-Rogue header (instructions
Rick courtesy of Leif Gregory):
LG Errr. I didn't write that. I swear :grin:
RF Oooops! My mistake! The instructions were courtesy of Roelof Otten.

Well, blame gets around I see. ;-)

RF --
RF Thanks,
RF Rick

I think your signature delimiter is lacking a space.

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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter,

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:11:01 +1200GMT (28-7-2004, 22:11 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

PB I am still trying, but I still can't see me. And my apologies for the
PB sloppiness with my delimiter.

Download the latest rogues.zip from: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip
Close and restart TB (I keep forgetting the shortcut to register a new
pack while TB is running)

You won't see yourself while editing, but when you're looking at your
message as distributed by the list you should see yourself, because
I'm seeing you too.

You are that cute guy with the beard, aren't you? The one similar to
Santa Claus. g,dr

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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hello Peter on the other side of the globe,

on Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:11:01 +1200GMT, you wrote:

 I am still trying, but I still can't see me...

I see your pic well. :-) Can you see the other users' pics like mine?

-- 
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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 3:11 PM, you wrote:

PB I am still trying, but I still can't see me. And my apologies for the
PB sloppiness with my delimiter.

I see you. It makes me want to ask: What version of The Bat! are you
using?

If you are not using version 2.12.00 or higher, a Roguemoticon
picture will not appear in the headers.

Are all of our pictures appearing in your headers?

I have taken my name with colons around it out of my signature. If you
are using an earlier version, that will mean you will not see my
picture in my signature and will also not see me in your headers. Only
those using v. 2.12 can see you in the headers.

If you *are* using v. 2.12, then go to The Bat!/Images. Click on the
file that says  rogues .  Look to see if your image is in your file.
If it is, then click on the file in The Bat!/Images that says
rogues.msl

That should open in Notepad. Scroll down to be sure that this exact
line is in the rogues.msl list:

Smiley = .\rogues\Peter_Ballantyne.jpg, 0, :Peter_Ballantyne:

If you are running v. 2.12 and both of these conditions are not met,
then go to

http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/

and download the file again. Unzip it and put the folder rogues and
the file rogues.msl into The Bat!/Images. You can copy these right
over the old ones, replacing them.

Then, close The Bat!, if it is running. Re-launch it. Pick one of your
own posts and see if you're not visible now.

If you are *not* running v. 2.12.00 or higher, then to see your image
in your sig, you must type  :Peter_Ballantyne:  (including the
colons).

I hope this is not an overkill of information!

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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Roelof,

@28-Jul-2004, 22:26 +0200 (28-Jul 21:26 UK time) Roelof Otten said
to Peter:

PB I am still trying, but I still can't see me. And my apologies
PB for the sloppiness with my delimiter.

 Download the latest rogues.zip from:
 http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip
 Close and restart TB (I keep forgetting the shortcut to register a new
 pack while TB is running)

(That would be because it uses the 'test' hotkey, which has now been
assigned to the new sorting office). So currently we don't have a
'reload' method.

-- 
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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread 9Val
Hello Marck,  

MDP (That would be because it uses the 'test' hotkey, which has now been
MDP assigned to the new sorting office). So currently we don't have a
MDP 'reload' method.

'test' hotkey is still used for image reloading, if not there is a bug

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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Peter,

Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 1:11:01 PM, you wrote:

 I am still trying, but I still can't see me.

I can see you...do you have the smileys checked in your viewer pane?

-- 
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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear 9val,

@28-Jul-2004, 23:31 +0300 (28-Jul 21:31 UK time) 9Val said to Marck:

MDP (That would be because it uses the 'test' hotkey, which has now been
MDP assigned to the new sorting office). So currently we don't have a
MDP 'reload' method.

 'test' hotkey is still used for image reloading, if not there is a bug

In 2.12.03 the Ctl-Shift-Alt-T test key brings up the new
(non-functional) sorting office. Is that a bug?

-- 
Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user
TB! v2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1
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Shareware Awards...

2004-07-28 Thread Michael R Kizer




Best Web Enhancement or Utility - The Bat! by RITLABS (www.ritlabs.com)

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Re: PGP and sig delimiter

2004-07-28 Thread Allie Martin
Plan9, [P] wrote:

 I just looked at the source of one of my PGP signed messages and
 noticed that the sig delimiter had been changed from dash dash space
 to --=20.  I think I know why - to preserve the space -, but who
 changed the space to =20?  TheBat! or PGP?

That's TB! encoding the message in a way to preserve trailing spaces.
There's a choice of quoted printable or the completely unreadable
Base64.

-- 
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List Moderator and fellow end-user
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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread 9Val
Hello Marck,  

MDP In 2.12.03 the Ctl-Shift-Alt-T test key brings up the new
MDP (non-functional) sorting office. Is that a bug?

It is a leak :) It shouldn't go out of internal testing.

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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Marck,

Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 2:36:55 PM, you wrote:
Marck In 2.12.03 the Ctl-Shift-Alt-T test key brings up the new
Marck (non-functional) sorting office. Is that a bug?


I dumped that association when I installed the latest. I believe it
still reloads .MSL files but I don't get the Test center.


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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Allie Martin
Marck D Pearlstone, [MDP] wrote:

 In 2.12.03 the Ctl-Shift-Alt-T test key brings up the new
 (non-functional) sorting office. Is that a bug?

I've discovered that it actually does both. Though it now brings up
the non-functional sorting office in these new betas, it also reloads
the new .msl file.

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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Morgan,

Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 2:42:04 PM, you wrote:
Morgan Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is all this about?
Morgan I don't understand what you mean what you say I can see you.
Morgan See you where :-/

Roguemoticons.. Go to http://www.pcwize.com/thebat

Read that page and if you want to join in, create an account and fill
out the info.

You'll see what we mean by 'Seeing someone', on the link I mentioned
above. There's some images explaining it.



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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo 9Val,

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:43:24 +0300GMT (28-7-2004, 22:43 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MDP In 2.12.03 the Ctl-Shift-Alt-T test key brings up the new
MDP (non-functional) sorting office. Is that a bug?

9 It is a leak :) It shouldn't go out of internal testing.

Too late now. You'd better implement is as soon as possible now. ;-)

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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Allie Martin
Morgan Pugh, [MP] wrote:

 Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is all this about?

 I don't understand what you mean what you say I can see you.

 See you where :-/

I guess an example is worth more than a thousand words. :)

See http://www.ac-martin.com\pics\example.png

To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. I see
that you are.

Fetch the following file:
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip

Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation
directory:

C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images

You should now have a directory called 'rogues' containing many images
as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory.

Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options.

Now hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus.

You should now be seeing the images that we're referring to.

If you wish to add yourself, then you'll need to follow Leif's
instructions about going to http://www.pcwize.com/thebat

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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread 9Val
Hello Roelof,  

9 It is a leak :) It shouldn't go out of internal testing.

RO Too late now. You'd better implement is as soon as possible now. ;-)

OK, today at morning I'll do all you advice :)

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Re: New Mail Sound

2004-07-28 Thread MAU
Hello nurbles,

snipped quite a bit
 Any suggestions on how to have all of the filters I
 have set to 'mark read' the matching messages to be
 SILENT when new mail arrives for them?  And conversly,
 to have the others play the new mail sound?

The reason you get a sound for all or most incoming messages is because
when having sound enabled at account level any message coming into the
Inbox (or going through it before being moved by a filter) will trigger
the new mail sound.

This is what id do:

  - Disable sound at account level.
  - Create a folder called MyInbox and another one called MyInbox2.
  - Don't use any sounds at filter level.
  - Assign a sound to MyInbox folder and select Use own sound settings
  - Disable any sound in MyInbox2 folder.
  - Now, what filters that should trigger a sound actually do is to move
  the new message to MyInbox and those that shouldn't trigger a sound
  are moved to MyInbox2.

My actual setup is a bit more complicated (I filter to more folders) but
the basic idea is what I have explained.


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Re: Word wrap problems

2004-07-28 Thread Rick Friedman
On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 4:21:06 PM, Roelof wrote:
RF --
RF Thanks,
RF Rick

RO I think your signature delimiter is lacking a space.

Hmmm... right you are. I could've sworn I put a space in there. Ahh
well... it should be OK now.

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Re[2]: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Ballantyne
Hello Roelof,

Thursday, July 29, 2004, 8:26:20 AM, you wrote:


 You are that cute guy with the beard, aren't you? The one similar to
 Santa Claus. g,dr

Hey! I like that. Never been Santa before. But yes, that sounds like
me. I have downloaded the latest rogues file, and this is my test
message.


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Re[3]: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Ballantyne
Hello Peter,

Thursday, July 29, 2004, 9:36:18 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Roelof,

 Thursday, July 29, 2004, 8:26:20 AM, you wrote:


 You are that cute guy with the beard, aren't you? The one similar to
 Santa Claus. g,dr

 Hey! I like that. Never been Santa before. But yes, that sounds like
 me. I have downloaded the latest rogues file, and this is my test
 message.

BINGO! (and I really am shouting!) I got it! Now I can see myself. Hi
everybody, and thanks heaps to all those who helped me get this right!

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Re[4]: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Peter,

Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 2:38:32 PM, you wrote:

 BINGO! (and I really am shouting!) I got it! Now I can see myself. Hi
 everybody, and thanks heaps to all those who helped me get this right!

I could not see you on your last two messages! ~shrug~

-- 
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Terry

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Re: Still not showing - to me - sigh

2004-07-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 4:43 PM, you wrote:
PB BINGO! (and I really am shouting!) I got it! Now I can see myself. Hi
PB everybody, and thanks heaps to all those who helped me get this right!

PO Not to spoil things, but your last two msgs didn't contain the X-Rogue
PO header line . .

Confirmed. Not seen here either. He should go back through the steps
to create the X-Rogue header in Options/Preferences/Message Header, to
see if something changed there.

-- 
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Mary
:Mary:
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Roguemoticons again

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Ballantyne
I've checked my headers and everything else, and I am sure I got this
working OK. Thanks to everyone who helped.

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Roguemoticons disappeared again

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Ballantyne
What am I doing wrong please?

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Re: Roguemoticons again

2004-07-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 5:54 PM, you wrote:

PB I've checked my headers and everything else, and I am sure I got this
PB working OK. Thanks to everyone who helped.

It's working. I see you. And I'm happier to see you than I would be to
see Santa Claus!

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Re: Roguemoticons disappeared again

2004-07-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 5:57 PM, you wrote:

PB What am I doing wrong please?

As seen from Tennessee, you are doing everything perfectly!

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Re: Roguemoticons disappeared again

2004-07-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
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Hello Peter,

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PB What am I doing wrong please?

Nothing. Your last two messages show your smiling visage just fine.

- --

Regards,

Richard

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Whew! I'm back then?

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Ballantyne
Thank you Mary and Richard for reassuring me. Thought I'd disappeared
into some dark void where all those email massages that never make it
to their intended destination seem to go, slipping quietly through
little worm holes in space. There's just gotta be a little planet
somewhere out there where they keep all those cheap Biros company.
(With apologies to the late Douglas Adams).

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Re: Whew! I'm back then?

2004-07-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 6:27 PM, you wrote:

PB Thank you Mary and Richard for reassuring me. Thought I'd disappeared
PB into some dark void where all those email massages that never make it
PB to their intended destination seem to go, slipping quietly through
PB little worm holes in space. There's just gotta be a little planet
PB somewhere out there where they keep all those cheap Biros company.
PB (With apologies to the late Douglas Adams).

Oh, I can't stand it!  I have to reply to the part of your message
which is not on topic for either the thread or the list: the late
Douglas Adams.  :42:

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Re: Whew! I'm back then?

2004-07-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
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Hello Peter,

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PB Thought I'd disappeared
PB into some dark void where all those email massages that never make it
PB to their intended destination seem to go,

Well your picture did mysteriously disappear for a few messages which
was a bit strange but it all seems fixed now.

- --

Regards,

Richard

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Re[2]: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-28 Thread Mike email (The Bat!)
Hi

Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 2:41:18 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

AM St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote:

   TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows-
   button + M and see for yourself.

AM TB! disappears/minimizes here.


Here, TB! behaves as I would expect if it is the only window open.

However, if there is another application running in a non-minimised window (behind
the TB! window) only the other window reappears the second time I click the
show desktop icon - TB! remains minimised until I click its taskbar button.

-- 
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Can't send mail thru TB

2004-07-28 Thread Anna Lawson
Hi, Marck, Leif, and all y'all,

I've been gone a long time, but as they say, I'm ba-a-ack. I've got the
new version of TB! and it's been working just fine (for several months)
until yesterday. Suddenly, I can receive mail but not send it--any of
it,
from any of my three accounts. The message I get is Did not send
message--server relaying denied. Of my three accounts, one is forwarded
from a Web-based mail (fastmail, which is why I can send this--thru the
Web interface); but none of the three can send. I've checked all the
settings 
and they're all correct.

I've not changed any of my settings and TB! has free access through my
firewall (ZoneAlarm--and this happens even when ZA is shut down). 
I'm using W2K Pro (no change there). I've experienced this previously, 
but only intermittently--maybe once every few months, and then closing 
the program and opening it again usually fixed it. 

I emailed bugs, though it's not really a bug, but didn't
receive any response. This time, closing, re-opening, and even
re-booting makes no difference: I just can't send mail.

I've looked through the archives and not found anything applicable, but
I'd be surprised if somewhere in the list expertise, someone hasn't seen
this before. I hope so, because my livelihood depends on email! :)

Any advice will be most gratefully accepted, and may all your spaghetti
have good meatballs!

Anna


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Re: Can't send mail thru TB

2004-07-28 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu 29 July 2004, 12:53:15 +1000, Anna Lawson wrote:
 Suddenly, I can receive mail but not send it--any of it, from any of my
 three accounts. The message I get is Did not send message--server
 relaying denied. Of my three accounts, one is forwarded from a
 Web-based mail (fastmail, which is why I can send this--thru the Web
 interface); but none of the three can send. I've checked all the
 settings and they're all correct.

It sounds as though your SMTP servers (the ones for sending mail) do not
like to accept mail from wherever it is you are connecting from. Have you
changed your connection to the Internet? You will usually get that
message if you are connected to the Internet through one ISP, and try to
use the SMTP server of another.

Another possibility is that your SMTP server will only send mail if you
have authenticated by receiving mail first. See if setting Use POP
before SMTP authentication is set, and if not try this (Account -
Properties - Transport - Send mail authentication).

-- 
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Sorted, I think

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Ballantyne
I may have been a silly boy and hit the reply button when wanting to
respond to a particular post. That seems to can my roguemoticon. If I
do it as a new message, as this one is, all seems OK.

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