What defines a mailto?
Hello TBUDLers, Any idea why TB! does not recognise the following as a mailto: ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've changed the 1's and the alphabet part to disguise the real address (it's a mailing list confirmation). The = sign seems to replace the @ in my address, and may be the problem? -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hello, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 12:05:00 AM, you wrote: W I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service W Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? No problem :-) -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/8, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2 -- Portal INTERIA.PL zaprasza... http://link.interia.pl/f17cb Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What defines a mailto?
On Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 19:02 (which was Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 9:02 where I am) Allister Jenks wrote: Any idea why TB! does not recognise the following as a mailto: ? Well, in all actuality, it isn't a 'mailto:' considering the string 'mailto:' isn't part of it. It is a string of characters containing an '@'-sign that might or might not be an e-mail address or 'mailto:'-uri. Written like this: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] it is recognized and immediately useable. -- Greetings, Maurice Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
hello WilWilWil, @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! same here, no probs with sp2... -- regards, ralph Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
hello WilWilWil, @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! same here, no probs with sp2... -- regards, ralph Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What defines a mailto?
Thursday, August 26, 2004, 7:48:26 PM, Maurice wrote: MS Well, in all actuality, it isn't a 'mailto:' considering the string MS 'mailto:' isn't part of it. Granted. But if I write... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...without specifying mailto:; at the front, TB! realises it is an email address and highlights it as such. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
hello WilWilWil, @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! same here, no probs with sp2... -- regards, ralph Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello WilWilWil, On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and W Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to W be very heavy ! I've just been notified that SP2 is now available for download but have decided not to use it, at least until a further bug fix version is put out. I do a manual search for Windows XP updates on a regular basis and that's the only time I use IE. I have never touched Outlook, nor do I use messenger. I have Kerio firewall and FProt virus checker so I feel, if it aint broke, don't fix it! - -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQS2j3RqZtcDKk7W+EQLFAwCeI+fhVKL51Qrk5T+wzfapsS5vJ5QAoMAJ fhj6WmV/fhPX0nDOpMTA2jGH =aHWY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
hello WilWilWil, @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! same here, no probs with sp2... -- regards, ralph Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB and XP new SP2...
==Original message text=== From: ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 26, 2004, 11:13:10 AM Subject: TB and XP new SP2... r hello WilWilWil, r @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! r same here, no probs with sp2... ===End of original message text=== You've got no problem with SP2 but you seem to have another problem : more than 6 times the same mail ! ;-) -- WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB 2.12.00 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
hello WilWilWil, @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 12:03 you wrote: ==Original message text=== From: ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 26, 2004, 11:13:10 AM Subject: TB and XP new SP2... r hello WilWilWil, r @Donnerstag, 26. August 2004, 00:05 you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! r same here, no probs with sp2... ===End of original message text=== You've got no problem with SP2 but you seem to have another problem : more than 6 times the same mail ! ;-) sorry, seems to be something wrong with my provider: i didn't receive a single one... -- regards, ralph Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hello MAU, Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 7:32:03 PM, you wrote: I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! I don't use XP, but in a daily security newsletter I get they recommend delaying (or blocking) the installation of SP2 because some applications may cease to work. It is expected that some applications will stop working on SP2. The reason is that SP2 is closing some doors for backwards compatibility out-of-the-box. Those sections of code for backwards compatibility was a security risk. But, if I'm not mistaken you can still run those applications by using the application compatibility settings, and that is supposed to make those applications run in their own little environment without breaching the security of the system. And another but, some applications might not run at all. Most of those applications are DOS and Win9x apps. I'll stop here, because this is OT. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior Software Developer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changing column settings
The the last couple versions of The Bat! (I'm at 2.12.00 right now) I've had a problem changing column widths and positions in the message list pane (come to think of it, I haven't tried the folder pane...oops! Now I have no visible 'unread' column and I cannot get it back!). When I click on the dividing/sizing line between columns, the column to the left of the line instantly goes to a width of ZERO and stays that way until I use the Setup Columns dialog to type in a bigger size. In the folder list, there does not appear to be any Setup Folder dialog, so my 'unread' column is now lost to me. The same thing happens if I inadvertently drag a column to a new position -- it moves, but the size becomes zero. And because it seems that a drag starts with a ONE PIXEL mouse move, that is prone to happen even when I intend to only click a new sort order. FWIW: The Bat! 2.12.00 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Oh, and this used to work fine in older versions. -- nurbles Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Checking Mail
I've been successfully using TheBat! with POPFile to tag SPAM for about a year now. I have both programs scheduled to start automatically when my machine boots (and auto logs in). Unfortunately, most of the time, TheBat! starts checking for new mail before POPFile is loaded (or ready?) and then hangs FOREVER. That is TheBat!'s 'checking mail' task that is hung. I cannot exit TheBat!, because a task is active. It refuses to abort the task, despite offering that as an option. I can only use the Windows Task Manager to KILL the program entirely. When I restart it after POPFile is running, it works just fine. The problem started with my upgrade to TheBat! 2.12.00 The earlier versions seemed to just time out the first mail check if it ran before POPFile, then later tried again, as it should be. The current one may not be hung, but if not, I cannot guess why it cannot be aborted or why the timeout would be over two days (it rebooted once right after work on Friday and was still hung Monday morning). FWIW: TheBat! 2.12.00 Windows 2000 SP4 -- nurbles Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
Hello Jan, On 26 Aug 2004 at 19:18:06 -0400 GMT [01:18 CEST] you wrote: JR Anyone have any ideas beyond the notion that the macros don't JR work. Or put it another way, has anyone found that the macros do JR work represent some real numbers? My junk folder shows 57 mails from the last 24 hours. Spam Stats, last day (BayesIt! 0.5.10) Total Spam: 67 Total Ham: 110 Error Spam: 0 Error Ham: 0 Accuracy: 100% My email is 37.853107% spam There is a difference of 10 mails but I get lots of dupes in my junk folder because of the duplicate mails on the server bug and I don't know how those count in the statistic. The macros give me the same information as under preferences. -- Cheers, Andre Fliegen ist gar nicht so schwierig, wie man denkt. Man muß sich nur auf den Boden schmeißen und vergessen aufzuschlagen. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Multiple Displays
I'm using Windows 2000's built-in support for multiple monitors (with 1 AGP and 2 PCI cards). I use monitor #1 for active work and I keep TheBat! maximized on monitor #2. Strangely, TheBat! remembers the correct screen coordinates between boots, unfortunately, it always translates them to monitor #1, so on every boot I must manually restore it, move it to monitor #2, then maximize it again. While working on programs of my own, I noticed that the horizontal coords on monitor #2 are all negative because it is positioned to the LEFT of monitor #1. I suspect that TheBat! is doing what I once did, and treating those as errors and 'correcting' them to their positive equivalents. It would be so nice if either was aware of multiple screens or simple used what it got... -- nurbles Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Checking Mail
nurbles, On 26-08-2004 14:36, you [n] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: n Unfortunately, most of the time, TheBat! starts checking for new mail n before POPFile is loaded (or ready?) and then hangs FOREVER. n That is TheBat!'s 'checking mail' task that is hung. I cannot exit n TheBat!, because a task is active. It refuses to abort the task, n despite offering that as an option. I can only use the Windows Task n Manager to KILL the program entirely. When I restart it after POPFile n is running, it works just fine. I have the exact same issue with TB hanging once in a while - and much worse that you cannot Delete task in the Connection Centre. If you hit Abort All, TB will stop checking mail and you need to restart to get TB working again. I have CCed this to the beta list as I am running the latest beta. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Checking Mail
Nurbles wrote: That is TheBat!'s 'checking mail' task that is hung. I cannot exit TheBat!, because a task is active. It refuses to abort the task, despite offering that as an option. I can only use the Windows Task Manager to KILL the program entirely. When I restart it after POPFile is running, it works just fine. Upon reviewing the last betas and version 2.12.0x builds, I see here: Version: 2.12.02, date: 21-Jul-2004 [-] 0003273 TB is trying to connect to non-existing server, task in CC can be deleted, but TB can't be closed Looks like your problem was fixed in that release. To download and install this release, please check the tbudl-info page to see how to subscribe to and download from the TBBETA downloads page. -- -=[ Allie ]=- [List Moderator and fellow end-user] My PGP-Keys: http://key.ac-martin.com The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/7 on WinXP Pro (Service Pack 1) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Checking Mail
Allie, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 9:48:21 AM, you wrote: AM To download and install this release, please check AM the tbudl-info page to see how to subscribe to and AM download from the TBBETA downloads page. Thanks for the idea, will do. FWIW, I found a possible work around, too. I think that unchecking the 'Check mailbox at startup' option in the account settings might give the local mail server/SPAM filter time to start before TheBat!'s first check. -- nurbles Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
Hallo Ben, On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:27:01 +0100GMT (26-8-2004, 1:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Is there nothing this man doesnt know how to do? MAU Yes, mayonnaise ;-) BA You probably all go dancing and say Can we do the mayonnaise again? Not me, that's definitely a three leg dance and I've got only two. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Multiple Displays
On Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 9:49:23 AM Nurbles and David wrote: nurbles I'm using Windows 2000's built-in support for multiple monitors DE ... nurbles It would be so nice if either was aware of multiple screens DE I second that. DE I have also 'lost' screens when going from 2 to 1 and also when moving DE monitors from left to right. Yes. This has happened with me too. While I normally don't put The Bat!'s window on the second monitor, I tried doing it and rebooting. It's as y'all say, TB! always comes up on the main monitor. I have another program which actually lives on the 2nd monitor, but that can be a big problem, too! Sometimes when I unplug and go portable I forget to reposition that program to the primary monitor. When that happens, trying to access it becomes impossible. It's loaded, but invisible - residing on the phantom number two monitor. -- Regards, Maggie We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need? --Lee Iacocca Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Displays
Hallo nurbles, On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:03:59 -0400GMT (26-8-2004, 15:03 +0200, where I live), you wrote: N Strangely, TheBat! remembers the correct screen coordinates N between boots, unfortunately, it always translates them to N monitor #1, so on every boot I must manually restore it, move N it to monitor #2, then maximize it again. Confirmed. Never noticed it before, since TB has always been running on my primary monitor. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing column settings
Hallo nurbles, On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:26:37 -0400GMT (26-8-2004, 14:26 +0200, where I live), you wrote: N When I click on the dividing/sizing line between columns, N the column to the left of the line instantly goes to a N width of ZERO and stays that way until I use the Setup N Columns dialog to type in a bigger size. Can't confirm that here. (I'm using the latest beta.) Can drag them to other places and to other sizes. N In the folder list, there does not appear to be any Setup Folder N dialog, so my 'unread' column is now lost to me. Cannot find the menu for that either, but I found the register key: Close TB Open Regedit Look for: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Folder Header #2 Enter a value to your liking Close Regedit Open TB -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!
Suddenly, all incoming messages for all my accounts are being marked as read and dumped into the junk file!! And there are no filters that do that. I will disable BayesIt! and see if that helps. If it does. is there an alternative plugin for SPAM? Thanks. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What defines a mailto?
On Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 20:19 (which was Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 10:19 where I am) Allister Jenks wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...without specifying mailto:; at the front, TB! realises it is an email address and highlights it as such. True. My guess is that there is a limit to the length before the @ sign or the total length for TB! to consider it an e-mail address. -- Greetings, Maurice :nlflag2: Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Changing column settings
Roelof, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 10:48:41 AM, you wrote: RO Can't confirm that here. (I'm using the latest beta.) Can drag them to RO other places and to other sizes. I figured out what is broken. I keep The Bat! on screen #2 (of 3 displays) which are arranged as [2][1][3]. That makes the horizontal screen coordinates NEGATIVE on the screen where TheBat! is living and any attempt at sizing with negative numbers is being slammed to zero by TheBat!. If I run TheBat! on screen #1 (or screen #3), column sizing/moving works correctly. Both of those screens have POSITIVE horizontal coordinates. I posted a message about multiple monitors, too, and now I see that this is related to that issue. RO Cannot find the menu for that either, but I found the register key: Thanks! The column has been revived! -- Steve Valliere| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Visions, Inc. | http://www.e-visions.com 1650 Barrett Dr | Voice (321) 632-7530 Rockledge, FL 32955 | Fax (321) 632-3396 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!
Thursday, August 26, 2004, 11:35:05 AM, you wrote: Suddenly, all incoming messages for all my accounts are being marked as read and dumped into the junk file!! And there are no filters that do that. I will disable BayesIt! and see if that helps. That did the trick. Is there another SPAM plugin available? Thanks. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Multiple Displays
Hi David, MM Sometimes when I unplug and go portable I forget to reposition that program to the primary monitor. When that happens, trying to access it becomes impossible. It's loaded, but invisible - residing on the phantom number two monitor. DE If it is on the task bar then you can do Alt + Space then M (to move it) You DE can then move it with the cursor keys back on to the mail screen. Yes, it's on the task bar. I pressed Alt + Space then m and then TB! fetched mail. I also tried holding Alt + Space + Shift + M while using the left arrow, and nothing happened. Not working. I'm on a laptop, so maybe it's the differences in keyboards? I'd love to be able to get your idea to work! -- Regards, Maggie Perfection of means and confusion of ends seem to characterize our age. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!
Hello Pete, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 8:56:54 AM, you wrote: That did the trick. Is there another SPAM plugin available? Did you happen to upgrade TB! or BayesIt! lately? I had this problem when I upgraded TB! and had to retrain BayesIt! -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What defines a mailto?
Maurice Snellen wrote: True. My guess is that there is a limit to the length before the @ sign or the total length for TB! to consider it an e-mail address. Upon experimenting, it isn't the length, but instead the inclusion of special characters. Once you insert a character like !, `, %, $, #, ^, +, or =, TB! will no longer recognize it as a mailto URL without explicitly making it so by adding 'mailto:'. -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and Fellow End-User] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!
Thursday, August 26, 2004, 12:19:40 PM, you wrote: Hello Pete, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 8:56:54 AM, you wrote: That did the trick. Is there another SPAM plugin available? Did you happen to upgrade TB! or BayesIt! lately? I had this problem when I upgraded TB! and had to retrain BayesIt! Yes! Both!!! How does one retrain BayesIt!? Thanks. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!
Hello Pete, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 9:36:24 AM, you wrote: Yes! Both!!! How does one retrain BayesIt!? Highlight the e-mail that you want to use to train with and under the menu Specials chose Mark as Junk or Mark as Not Junk. You need to use both junk and non-junk mail to train. Good luck -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
Hello Jan Rifkinson, 26-Aug-2004 01:18, you wrote: ASK Apparently, something is pretty wrong with the Bayesit stats. :-} So, tonight I have 376 msgs in my junk folder. I marked none of them as junk, i.e. they were all junked automatically -- presumably by BayesIT. So here are my stats Those 376 junk mails are a total, correct? I mean... Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) ... :-) Anyone have any ideas beyond the notion that the macros don't work. Or put it another way, has anyone found that the macros do work represent some real numbers? Try replacing the (24) hours in the macro call with a number large enough to give a totals value maybe? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make. -- Response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields' Cookies. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!
Thursday, August 26, 2004, 12:47:42 PM, you wrote: Hello Pete, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 9:36:24 AM, you wrote: Yes! Both!!! How does one retrain BayesIt!? Highlight the e-mail that you want to use to train with and under the menu Specials chose Mark as Junk or Mark as Not Junk. You need to use both junk and non-junk mail to train. Aha! I did not use any non-junk mail. I think it's fixed now. Many thanks. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Thursday, August 26, 2004 it appears that Alexander S. Kunz wrote the following in regards to BayeIT Macros: So, tonight I have 376 msgs in my junk folder. I marked none of them as junk, i.e. they were all junked automatically -- presumably by BayesIT. So here are my stats ASK Those 376 junk mails are a total, correct? Hi Alexander. yes. However, at this point I have 651. ASK I mean... Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) ASK ... :-) Anyone have any ideas beyond the notion that the macros don't work. Or put it another way, has anyone found that the macros do work represent some real numbers? ASK Try replacing the (24) hours in the macro call with a number large enough ASK to give a totals value maybe? Changed to 48 hrs. Stats: Spam Stats, last 48 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) Total Spam Emails: 69 Total Clean Emails: 286 BayesIT guessed right 99.478261% of the time My email is 19.43662% spam Then for kicks I selected all msgs in junk file 651 and marked them as junk manually. BayesIT went thru training. Stats below. So I'll have to go with my conclusion until someone comes up with a definitive answer about BayesIT stats. Spam Stats, last 48 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) Total Spam Emails: 70 Total Clean Emails: 288 BayesIT guessed right 99.471429% of the time My email is 19.553073% spam Thanks, -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 Lucky Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What defines a mailto?
Hi Allie, This is completely OT but... what happened to your roguemoticon? It's not showing up. There's no X-Rogue header and your handle doesn't seem to be in the message anywhere. -- Take it easy, Rick Write a wise saying and your name will live forever - Anonymous Using The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 :flag-usa: Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What defines a mailto?
Rick Friedman wrote: This is completely OT but... what happened to your roguemoticon? It's not showing up. There's no X-Rogue header and your handle doesn't seem to be in the message anywhere. I'm writing from work where I can't use TB! since I'm behind a proxy. Even using an HTTP-tunnel is a problem. I'm using a webmail server to access my IMAP server at home. As a result, I can't add custom headers or PGP/MIME sign messages. -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and Fellow End-User] :acm: Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB and XP new SP2...
Chris [C] wrote: Although on the surface it may seem that SP2 only updates Internet Explorer, it actually fixes about three hundred problems. For a complete list, please see http://snipurl.com/8hfn Unfortunately, I can't install the SP2 update. I've followed all instructions and keep getting an Error Code: 8007F0CC Update Failed message. Of course, I can find absolutely nothing on the MS site about what Error Code: 8007F0CC is. I've never had a problem with the Windows Update until now. I've sent for the CD to see if that will workyeah right!!! -- Regards, Ron Secord Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 1 TB! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hello Matt, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 1:40:49 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): I upgraded to SP2 on this machine (XP Pro) this morning and have been using TB all day with no issues yet... Same here, I updated it last night. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
Hello Jan Rifkinson, 26-Aug-2004 19:12, you wrote: ASK Those 376 junk mails are a total, correct? yes. However, at this point I have 651. Nearly 300 junk mails in 1 day? Well... even without correct statistics from BayesIt the other conclusion for me would be dropping that mail account. :-} -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The release of atom power has changed everything except our way of thinking... the solution to this problem lies in the heart of mankind. If only I had known, I should have become a watchmaker. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: HELP -- all incoming messages are being junked!!
Hello Terry, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 11:19:40 AM, you wrote: TGM Hello Pete, TGM Thursday, August 26, 2004, 8:56:54 AM, you wrote: That did the trick. Is there another SPAM plugin available? TGM Did you happen to upgrade TB! or BayesIt! lately? TGM I had this problem when I upgraded TB! and had to retrain BayesIt! Not just retrain it. You will want to remove all traces of the old Beyesit (directories, files, etc.) before you install the new plug-in and try to train it. At least that is what I had to do before I could get it to start recognizing spam. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Changing column settings
Hi nurbles, On Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 12:01:12 PM you wrote: n I keep The Bat! on screen #2 (of 3 displays) which are arranged as n [2][1][3]. I'd love to hook up a third monitor. How is that done? I only have one external screen outlet on my computer, are there adapters for it? Perhaps we're off topic here. Can you answer by private mail or go to TBOT? -- Regards, Maggie The miracle of the seed and the soil is not available by affirmation, it is only available by labor. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Multiple Displays
Hello Maggie, M Yes, it's on the task bar. I pressed Alt + Space then m and then TB! M fetched mail. Did you release Alt and Space before hitting m? Are you using an English system? The key you push after Alt+Space will vary (I assume) based on your locale. Make sure TheBat is the active application. Pressing Alt+Space will bring up an a context menu (pop-up menu) that will also be off-screen. Then pressing the M will select Move on the pop-up menu. Hit an arrow key (I prefer the left) which will start moving the window, but then you can simply move your mouse and use the mouse to relocate the dialog. I find the mouse works much faster since the mouse cursor is locked to the viewable area of your desktop it'll snap the window into view really quickly. Just remember you must hit an arrow key before the mouse will move the window, otherwise the mouse will only move the cursor. Another way of doing it is to simply right-click on the Task bar (not system tray) entry (if you haven't turned it off) and selecting Move from there. Once you've selected move you can use the arrows and then the mouse to move the window someplace viewable. I hope that helps.. -- James Using The Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Ron Secord @ 2004-Aug-26 1:28:15 PM TB and XP new SP2... mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, I can't install the SP2 update. I've followed all instructions and keep getting an Error Code: 8007F0CC Update Failed message. Of course, I can find absolutely nothing on the MS site about what Error Code: 8007F0CC is. Take a look at your C:\WINDOWS\WindowsUpdate.log and C:\WINDOWS\setupapi.log files and see if there is more information. Often these files contain the error from the individual component that failed. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 If little green men land in your back yard, hide any little green women you've got in the house. pgpsz9gEnetZT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Undeleting messages
Hello tbudl, Is there any way to undelete messages? I accidentally emptied my Sent folder :-( . The messages are still there as I can browse the deleted messages. I've copied the file to another filename just in case, but I'd really like to get them back. -- Best regards, Steve Let no man turn aside, ever so slightly, from the broad path of honor, on the plausible pretence that he is justified by the goodness of his end. All good ends can be worked out by good means. - Charles Dickens TB! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Multiple Displays
Hi James, On Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 4:31:16 PM you wrote: M Yes, it's on the task bar. I pressed Alt + Space then m and then TB! M fetched mail. JO Did you release Alt and Space before hitting m? No. JO Are you using an English system? The key you push after Alt+Space JO will vary (I assume) based on your locale. A Japanese computer :) Seriously, most everything's set to American English. JO Make sure TheBat is the active application. Pressing Alt+Space JO will bring up an a context menu (pop-up menu) that will also be JO off-screen. Yes, it does. JO Then pressing the M will select Move on the pop-up menu. No. It doesn't! The M in Move is even underlined. I chose the others: Size - S, Minimize - N, Maximize - X and they operated as advertised. The Move - M did not work. JO Hit an arrow key (I prefer the left) which will start moving the JO window, but then you can simply move your mouse and use the mouse to JO relocate the dialog. I find the mouse works much faster since the JO mouse cursor is locked to the viewable area of your desktop it'll snap JO the window into view really quickly. Just remember you must hit an JO arrow key before the mouse will move the window, otherwise the mouse JO will only move the cursor. None of this will work without the Move working I suspect! JO Another way of doing it is to simply right-click on the Task bar (not JO system tray) entry (if you haven't turned it off) and selecting Move JO from there. There is no Move there. Only Minimize and Close (Restore is greyed out) Thanks for trying. It's much appreciated! -- Regards, Maggie Studies show that scientific experiments cause cancer in rats. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undeleting messages
Steve- As long as you can browse the deleted messages, you can copy them to another folder. Does that do what you want? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC
Alexander S. Kunz: AFAIK you're running TB permanently (and at very short poll intervalls). True - although 30 seconds isn't what I would consider to be _very_ short intervals. Or? Alexander S. Kunz: An environment that, as you said some weeks ago, requires you to restart TB now and then. You could do that with a scheduled /EXIT when you're in doubt if the .IPC file is still interpreted, couldn't you? Unfortunately, no! /EXIT relies on thebat.IPC - thus if TB ignore reading thebat.IPC then /EXIT won't work either! If TB had a last resort - like if a file force.exit.thebat.doh exist in the program directory then TB would exit. My applications do have protections against a dead loop as such as the system will reboot and restart from where TB ignored thebat.IPC. But I feel it is unacceptable having to reboot every 7-10 minutes. I am trying to tune the shit, and already I have produced protections of DOS'ing TB. After letting FileMon monitor for a while, it is revealed that TB check thebat.IPC every 10th seconds. However, each time one is running a second TB (with or without IPC commands) the primary TB will sync up to the secondary TB. If, for example, TB was checking thebat.IPC at times 16:03:05 16:03:15 16:03:25 16:03:35 and you start a second TB at 16:03:38, that second TB would have the primary TB to check thebat.IPC right away - and subsequent checkings of thebat.IPC would then time to for example 16:03:49 16:03:59 16:04:09 16:04:19 and so on. When it comes to what one can put into the thebat.IPC TB is pretty forgiving, but apparently commands that isn't supported won't be executed. Put a fake command (ie. /DOH) into thebat.IPC and TB will read and process the file - but nothing will happen as a result of that /DOH command. I tried three methods to have TB process IPC-commends. After some testing, I fortunately found a way of doing it and that I have found to be stable with my software - even at a pretty short poll intervals. The most stable method of executing IPC-commands is to write the commands into a batch file. A batch file is described in the Help-file: If you need to execute a lot of commands many times, the /BATCH command is a life saver. This command allows the execution of multiple commands defined in a text file; each command being placed in one line. I find that doing so makes running IPC-commands stable. I have tested for some days now, and it is stable - TB hasn't failed once! Just for the record, the following two methods are totally unstable and I can not recommend them: 1) Sending each command directly from th command line - like 16:05:00 - C:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.EXE /MAILU=[snip] 16:05:03 - C:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.EXE /SEND* etc. (commands /MAILU and /SEND are for the example only. TB will pretty soon (in minutes) stop checking thebat.IPC - useless! It do seems TB is choked, but the above may even happen even though the intervals are longer than 30 seconds - maybe even after minutes between each action! So there is some condition that makes TB stop checking thebat.IPC. 2) Update/composing thebat.IPC directly at a time TB is not checking it - like 16:05:00 - TB is polling thebat.IPC 16:05:05 - writing IPC-commands to thebat.IPC 16:05:10 - TB is polling thebat.IPC Again, TB will pretty soon (in minutes) stop checking thebat.IPC. One should assume it would be safe to write to the thebat.IPC as TB is not occupying it. Yet, this method is proven just as unstable as with the first method - and again it's useless! I have no idea why the latter two methods eventually fail. Stick to writing to a secondary batch file (thebat.TXT etc.) point to it from the command line. As for /EXIT that fails when TB fails to check thebat.IPC: Alexander S. Kunz: ** You. Do. Not. Need. The. IPC. File. ** You do! /EXIT won't work when TB stops checking thebat.IPC - because (as you later found out): TB itself writes the .IPC file when you access it via the commandline?!?. Yes, it does - I have always said that (or at least implied it strongly)! :) It was crucial in the discussion and is a major reason for topic of [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC. BTW - thru the batch file method I hav been able to produce a stable fix for the problem I outlined in [St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking (of mail). -- St Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undeleting messages
Hello Steve, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 12:03:42 PM, you wrote: Steve- As long as you can browse the deleted messages, you can copy them to another folder. Does that do what you want? Mark, Well, I guess that doing it one at a time is one way. I had over 3,000 messages in there. I was hoping for a better, global way to do it. But, thanks. -- Best regards, Steve The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. - Thomas Jefferson TB! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undeleting messages
Hello Steve, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 12:03:42 PM, you wrote: ST Is there any way to undelete messages? By the way, I've already tried to delete the .tbi file, with no effect. It builds a new .tbi file and all the messages are still marked for deletion. -- Best regards, Steve [A] good moral character is the first essential in a man... and your conduct here may stamp your character through life. It is therefore highly important that you should endeavor not only to be learned but virtuous. - George Washington TB! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Displays
On Fri 27 August 2004, 8:03:16 +1000, Maggie wrote: No. It doesn't! The M in Move is even underlined. I chose the others: Size - S, Minimize - N, Maximize - X and they operated as advertised. The Move - M did not work. Move will be greyed out if the application is maximized. There is no Move there. Only Minimize and Close (Restore is greyed out) It won't be there if the application is maximized. -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undeleting messages
By the way, I've already tried to delete the .tbi file, with no effect. It builds a new .tbi file and all the messages are still marked for deletion. While viewing a deleted message, you can click the view menu and select Message List to view the full list of deleted mails. You can then select any/all mails and perform normal right-click options (e.g. copy to folder, move to folder etc.). HTH -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
