Re: Norton and The Bat

2005-12-21 Thread Fredrik Bergström
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:51:05 -0600 GMT, Scott wrote:

 When I am receiving email, Norton is watching the temp folder that The Bat
 uses while it downloads emails.  When a virus comes in, Norton pops up 2 
 windows
 telling me its there and it will do something about it. So I get these 2 
 windows
 per virused email and with all those out there, I can get a bunch.

 Does anyone else go thru this pain?  Is there a way to get around it?  I tried
 making an exclusion in Norton but I can not exclude just the files and do not
 want to exclude the folder.  The Bat tech support says I can not change the
 folder it uses to download stuff.  UGG!!!

I had the same problem some time ago, made me switch to AVG antivirus
instead, not mainly because of this problem but because Norton
Antivirus was nagging me that my half year subscription was ending in
three months ;).

I would suggest to ignore the download folder all together, I see no
harm in that. The viruses (if there where any) that are left in that
folder will still be isolated and even if Norton does not check the
files in that directory it will _not_ allow a virus infected file to
be executed.

Not that constructive info from me, but I hope it helps some.

Merry weekend.

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Re: What happened to my F4 functionality?

2005-12-21 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Leonard,

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

LSB What is a cut mark?

You have to put dash dash then space and that way the signature is
recognised and can be ignored when quoting.

You could take away one of the Leonard's too :-)

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Re: Is there a expiry time available for chat folders content

2005-12-21 Thread MAU
Hello qe3ee,

   Is it possible to use a macro or some yet to discover function in The Bat
   (using 3.62.14) to handle threads in chatfolders and to remove those threads
   from the chatfolders whatchlist? 

   What I'm accually after is a-best-before function when some threads hasn't
   been active for a while I would like them to dissappear automagicaly from
   the chatfolder.

The only way I am aware of is to remove the threads manually.

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Re: Pre programmed group

2005-12-21 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof,


M ,- [ From TB's current HELP: ]
M ,- [ From the new HELP being written: ]

 Sure, but those won't work when you're replying to a message.

H! Never thought about replies, I'll have to try it some time.

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Re: Pre programmed group

2005-12-21 Thread Gerard

ON Monday, December 19, 2005, 11:18:07 PM, you wrote:

RO I'd go for the macro, though you could place all of them in a singles
RO AB group and use AB group templates to address all of them whenever
RO you send a message to a group member.
RO The macro would give you more control, the AB group would be
RO automated. YMMV.

Hi Roelof,

This was what I was thinking to, but I just wanted to hear if you agreed
with me. Sometime TB! offerers to many option to reach the same results.

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Re[2]: [thebat] Incorrect date on incoming email

2005-12-21 Thread David Embrey
 Friday, December 16, 2005, 9:10:04 AM, you wrote:

DE I've checked with my ISP and they've told me that the mail is dated
DE correctly on the server. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so,
DE how can I fix it?

 Yes,  the  last  time  the  battery  on  my  motherboard  went  dead  and  my
 calendar/clock was wrong.

Cheers, I'll check that out. Don't think there's been any recent
problems with the motherboard, but I'll look into it.

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HTML files opening in IE

2005-12-21 Thread Darrin
Hello friends,

I have Netcaptor pro as my default browser. All html files I open on
my computer open using netcaptor. But html files I open from the
attachment pane in TB open in IE. Is there a setting in TB I need to
change to have the html files open in my proper default browser?



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Re: Norton and The Bat

2005-12-21 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Mon, 19 Dec 2005,
   @  @  at 20:51:05 -0600, when Scott wrote:

 When I am receiving email, Norton is watching the temp folder that The
 Bat uses while it downloads emails. When a virus comes in, Norton pops
 up 2 windows telling me its there and it will do something about it.
 So I get these 2 windows per virused email and with all those out
 there, I can get a bunch.

 Does anyone else go thru this pain? Is there a way to get around it? I
 tried making an exclusion in Norton but I can not exclude just the
 files and do not want to exclude the folder. The Bat tech support says
 I can not change the folder it uses to download stuff. UGG!!!

You could get around it only if Norton has some option to automate
this process thus not popping up those windows on you, but doing all
what he does in background. For instance if is possible to set it to
move  rename the infected messages in a quarantine, so you can examine
them later if you want, and to proceed further its work without your
interaction.

On the level of TB, would be possible to exclude its temporary files
only if it would have its own sub-folder (eg.: thebat) for them (as
Total Commander has, for instance) inside the OS's temp folder. But
again this wouldn't be good in this particular case because an AV _has_
to deal somewhere with files it scans.

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Re: What happened to my F4 functionality?

2005-12-21 Thread Chris

Leonard S. Berkowitz @ 12/19/2005 8:49:57 PM
What happened to my F4 functionality? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You must be on to something because in this reply to you, it worked.

Or it was the new version of The Bat!

 What is a cut mark?

 Leonard
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That little dash-fash is a cut mark. It tells The Bat! to cut off
everything below when replying. However, for it to work, it must
be on its own line and match the following pattern exactly:
dashdashspace

If you use quick templates, take a look at the ISSIGNATURE macro.
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Bug? That's not a bug, that's a feature.

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Re[2]: Bayes filter stop working/re-filter

2005-12-21 Thread Scott
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Original message text=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Monday, December 19, 2005, 7:51:09 AM, you wrote:

 set a key stroke for the Mark as Spam

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Original message text=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

or customized your tool bar to include the junk/not junk buttons...

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No messages

2005-12-21 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello,

I've had no messages of any description since 8.52 on Tuesday Dec 19th
either on this list or TBBETA. I also posted a message about that time
that didn't get through. Having checked the archives I see that there
are no messages after that time on either list but TBOT (to which I
don't subscribe) is flourishing. If the lists are down then fine and
I'll wait, along with everyone else, for them to come back up.

Unfortunately I can't get into either my TBUDL or TBBETA mailing list
member options page as no combination of email address and password seem
to work. I've asked for a password confirmation but, as nothing is
arriving from thebat,dutaint.com here for me, I am a bit up the creek
without a paddle because I can't get my password.

Answers on the list are useless as I can't read them so I hope a mod
will be kind enough to send me PM so that I can see what's happening.

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Re[2]: Incorrect date on incoming email

2005-12-21 Thread David Embrey
 Hi,

 On Monday, December 19, 2005 at 11:23:07 AM, David Embrey wrote:

 The 'Received' column displays the incorrect date stamp. The 'Created'
 column displays the correct date.

 When you go to Options  Preferences  Messages  Date / Time display,
 what is the value ? Mine is « d mmm ,t ». Maybe it comes from
 there...


Hi Ludovic,

Thanks for your email. I've checked the date preferences, but the
settings here are the same: d mmm ,t

I've kinda run out of things to check here... date settings on PC seem
to be fine, date settings in TB! seem to be fine, ISP says date stamps
on emails on the server are fine...

Maybe it's time for a D 'n' R?

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Re: Norton and The Bat

2005-12-21 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Scott  everyone else,

on 20-Dez-2005 at 03:51 you (Scott) wrote:

 The Bat tech support says I can not change the folder it uses to download
 stuff. UGG!!!

We've discussed this on the beta list ago and the dev team promised that TB
will get its own temp directory in the user profile. Seems like it has been
forgotten, or postponed.

Since the same questions pops up again and again, I've now filed an
official wish in the RIT bugtracker. Please add your supporting notes
here:

TB should use its very own temporary directory for downloading mails
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5494

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Re: Norton and The Bat

2005-12-21 Thread Cory
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:51:05 -0600, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there a way to get around it?

My 2 cts: use a proper antivirus. May sound blunt, but Norton is blunt
too. I can safely advise you to switch to AVG (free for home use:
http://free.grisoft.com, otherwise http://www.grisoft.com) which is
more docile in it's behaviour and can be trained to your desire. Same
for Norman Virus Control (http://www.norman.no) and F-Secure
(http://www.f-secure.com), to mention a few more professional AV
providers.


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Re: HTML files opening in IE

2005-12-21 Thread Curtis
On 20/12/2005 at 10:07:16 AM [GMT -0500], Darrin wrote:

 I have Netcaptor pro as my default browser. All html files I open on
 my computer open using netcaptor. But html files I open from the
 attachment pane in TB open in IE. Is there a setting in TB I need to
 change to have the html files open in my proper default browser?

TB! just works with your system settings. It would seem that your system
is setup to open html files using IE. I suggest taking a look at your
filetypes and changing the defaults for .html and .htm to netcaptor pro
and not IE.

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Re: No messages

2005-12-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Richard,

@21-Dec-2005, 02:56 +0100 (21-Dec 01:56 here) Richard Wakeford [RW] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

... snip
RW Unfortunately I can't get into either my TBUDL or TBBETA mailing
RW list member options page as no combination of email address and
RW password seem to work.
... snip

RW Answers on the list are useless as I can't read them so I hope a
RW mod will be kind enough to send me PM so that I can see what's
RW happening.

So are questions on the list! There is a Moderator email address on
the TBUDLInfo page that you can write to in such cases.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re[3]: Bayes filter stop working/re-filter

2005-12-21 Thread MikeD (2)
Hello Scott,

Tuesday, December 20, 2005, 2:05:15 PM, you wrote:

S =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Original message text=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
S Monday, December 19, 2005, 7:51:09 AM, you wrote:

S  set a key stroke for the Mark as Spam

S =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Original message text=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

S or customized your tool bar to include the junk/not junk buttons...

Yes, you can certainly do that, but I am an old command line kind of
guy and so think key strokes before I think buttons.  Besides, there
are already more buttons than I can see at one time.  But, yes.  If
you prefer buttons, that is certainly a suitable answer too.

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LDAP connection

2005-12-21 Thread David Elliott
Hello All,

A long time ago in a distant Galaxy ...

I connected the bat to an Ldap directory, but now I can not remember
exactly what I did.

Can any one give me any clues as to how to do it. Things like search base
and the format of the user name and passwoed.

I can remember something like cn= was in there somewhere.

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Shortcuts all messed up and how to do

2005-12-21 Thread Aubrey
Dear Bats

Yikes. I just installed the Christmas Edition
following an advertisting email from Ritlabs.

No all my dozens of carefully crafted shortcuts are gone.
Having gone carefully through messages on the list
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get
them back. I can get into the customize box, but
what then

Someone please run me through a sequence of events
that will get (as a case example) a shortcut (say
Shift-Control-1 to assign a predefined color group
to a message).

Alternatively how do I get back to where I was
before.

What a mess, and the helpfile bears no relation to
reality.

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TB! and MS Exchange

2005-12-21 Thread Robin Anson
Fellow battyfolk, 

I am thinking (again) of upgrading to the latest version. I note on the
TB! web page that
 The Bat! connects to Microsoft Exchange Servers using native MAPI
 protocol to fetch or send the messages. You just have to install
 Microsoft Office Outlook or Microsoft Exchange Client to supply the
 Exchange connectivity components which The Bat! will be using

That would be very useful since I currently have to run Outlook to
connect to the MS Exchange server at work.

Has anyone made use of this functionality? Does it work well? How hard
is it to get working?

Robin

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Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing

2005-12-21 Thread Bob Morris
G'day TBUDL Members,

I have just installed the latest Christmas Edition.  The updated help
file is a big improvement.  Unfortunately however whenever I try to
access my IMAP account at Fastmail The Bat! appears to complete all
the downloading and then crashes with an Access violation error.

The last time it was Access violation at address A10C74C0. Read of
address A10C74C0.  The problem occurs every time I try to access
Fastmail but I'm not sure whether the error has an identical address
each time.  (I was too surprised the first couple of times to note
down the details.) Access to POP accounts seems to be okay at this
stage.

Any one else seeing this?  Any suggestions appreciated.

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Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing

2005-12-21 Thread Bob Morris
G'day Bob,

Thursday, December 22, 2005, 11:30:33 AM, you wrote:

 G'day TBUDL Members,



 The last time it was Access violation at address A10C74C0. Read of
 address A10C74C0.  The problem occurs every time I try to access
 Fastmail but I'm not sure whether the error has an identical address
 each time.  (I was too surprised the first couple of times to note
 down the details.) Access to POP accounts seems to be okay at this
 stage.




I just made several more attempts to access Fastmail.  The access
violation error has a different address on each occasion.

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Re: LDAP connection

2005-12-21 Thread Chris

David Elliott @ 12/21/2005 10:44:15 AM
LDAP connection mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I connected the bat to an Ldap directory, but now I can not remember
 exactly what I did.

 Can any one give me any clues as to how to do it. Things like search
 base and the format of the user name and passwoed.

It seems like you have already found the This address book is
associated with a LDAP server check box. The username and password
are whatever credentials you need to log in to the server. On my
server, none are needed.

 I can remember something like cn= was in there somewhere.

That really depends on how your LDAP server is structured. I would
contact your LDAP administrator and ask him or her what the proper
search base is.

For the most part, I find that it works well (better than Outlook's
implementation). However, every once in a while, after adding a
contact from the directory, The Bat! does something that something
else doesn't like and goes into a infinite dialog box loop. It keep
popping the same box up again and again. The next time it comes up
I'll file a bug report...

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If the cops arrest a mime do they tell him or her that he or she has
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Missing mailboxes

2005-12-21 Thread Kitty
I am using version 3.51.10 and have used TB for a long, long time.
Today, I used my notebook computer at work and had many folders in my
main account (which actually isn't the one I am posting from).  I just
opened up TB and the only folders I now show in that account are
Inbox, Outbox, sent mail and Trash.  I know that the folders are all
really still there, but how do I get them show up?

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RE: TB! and MS Exchange

2005-12-21 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Robin,

Thursday, December 22, 2005, 2:25:20 AM, you wrote:


 The Bat! connects to Microsoft Exchange Servers using native MAPI
 protocol to fetch or send the messages. You just have to install
 Microsoft Office Outlook or Microsoft Exchange Client to supply the
 Exchange connectivity components which The Bat! will be using

 That would be very useful since I currently have to run Outlook to
 connect to the MS Exchange server at work.

I am using TB! at work (and I regret having started it, but not because of 
IMAP/Exhange, but because of the terrible HTML support of TB). The connection 
to TB! is easy. You just set up the account with MAPI, where you usually would 
choose IMAP or POP3, you need your password and all that stuff. And then it 
works. 
Fun is, when I installed that over a year ago, I needed to have Outlook running 
to connect with TB! For some months now, it works without Outlook. If that is 
because our admin changed something on the exchange server settings, or because 
TB! got changed, I do not know.
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Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing

2005-12-21 Thread Clive Taylor

 Unfortunately however whenever I try to
access my IMAP account at Fastmail The Bat! appears to complete all
the downloading and then crashes with an Access violation error.


As you've discovered, Bob, IMAP is still a work in progress in TB! I have 
so many issues with performance, implementation and stability that I rarely 
use the prog these days. For a better discussion of the current state of 
IMAP take a deep breath and have a look at TBBETA.


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Re: TB! and MS Exchange

2005-12-21 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Robin,

On 22-12-2005 02:25, you [RA] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
RA That would be very useful since I currently have to run Outlook to
RA connect to the MS Exchange server at work.

RA Has anyone made use of this functionality?

As can be seen in my signature, I use TB! with Exchange here at work.
However, I use the IMAP protocol as the last time I tried the MAPI
protocol, TB! fetched all the messages to my local machine (as if it was
POP3) and deleted them from the server! You might want to make sure this
is not happening before trying.

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/env.
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