Regex in Message Finder

2006-02-05 Thread Allen Day

You'll have to pardon me, I've been away from TB for a year or two and
am both a bit rusty with its intricacies and trying to get up to speed
with  all  the  changes.  This  time  around, my question is about the
message  finder--it used to support regex, but now it doesn't seem to.
Am  I  overlooking something or has the power of regex been deprecated
from the message finder in exchange for speed?

Thanks

A.

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Re: IMAP setup-message bodies not being downloaded

2006-02-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello SL,
  A reminder of what SL typed on:
  Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 17:17:57 GMT +1100

S Hello tbudl,

S I can't figure out why The Bat no longer is downloading message bodies
S for my IMAP account.  I am not sure if this started happening when I
S upgraded from Home to Pro (not sure).  (...although it worked fine...I
S think...when I tried Voyager...)

S In 'IMAP Fine Tune', I have 'retrieve message structures...' enabled.
S In 'Manage IMAP Folders' , I have sync mode set to Full Messages/All
S Messages' and I have tried 'New Messages' as well.

S The answer is doubtless staring me in the face, but right now I can't
S see it...

It is working well here for me (home and pro). These are the settings
I would check as well.

Just noticed you are using 3.65.03, which is the official release
version, I think. The current beta 3.70.07 is now working correctly
with IMAP syncing and is the best version I have ever had for IMAP.
There are still some problems, but message downloading seems to be
fixed.

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Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Perry Nelson
Hello TBUDL,

  I am helping a friend learn to use his new copy of The Bat! This
  morning I wrote out a long explanation for him of how to create a READ
  filter to assign a manual HotKey to the action the filter performs,
  and because I always value seeing a concrete explanation of how to do
  things like this on the list, I thought I'd share what I have written
  with you. At the end of this explanation, however, I have a question
  I'd appreciate some help with. So here is what I wrote for him.
  

  The experiment I was inspired to conduct this morning was with READ
  filters. I already had a color group (or colour group, as The Bat!
  calls it) that was called Reply Needed, and I have a Virtual Folder
  that displays those messages (also called Reply Needed). What I
  wanted was a keyboard shortcut that I could use to quickly apply that
  color group to a message I had just read.

  So I went into the Sorting Office for each of the three accounts I
  have and created the same filter. I added it in the READ filters
  section, chose NEW filter, then clicked on the SENDER and selected ANY
  MESSAGE (the bottom most item in the list that pops up). Next I went
  to the ACTIONS tab and chose SET MESSAGE COLOUR. Then a window will
  pop up for you to select the color group you wish to use. Naturally, I
  chose Rely Needed. Once that action was displayed, I chose the
  OPTIONS tab. On that tab I made sure This filter is active was
  selected, then checked Use this filter for manual re-filtering only
  and then checked Execute actions of this filter by pressing this Hot
  Key. That will cause the window right below that statement to become
  active. I clicked in that window, which by default says None, and
  pressed the keys I wanted to use as a hot key. I chose the keys
  Ctrl+Shift+Alt+R. You make that choice by simply pressing all those
  keys simultaneously, and it will replace the word None.

  Although I created the filter three times for the three accounts I
  have, I realized afterwards that I didn't need to do that. I could
  have simply selected the filter in one of the accounts and pressed
  CTRL-C, to copy it to the clipboard, and then gone to another account
  and opened the READ filter section and then pressed CTRL-V to paste
  the filter into that account too.

  Obviously, creating this one read filter helps me to realize that I
  can create other such READ filters to do other things, such as add
  other color groups to messages by shortcut keys, etc. This is the
  first time I've used READ filters, but it opens up a whole new range
  of options for me, so I am pleased with myself and wanted to share my
  discovery with you, in case you might find it useful.

  Here is the filter:

   TB! Message Filter 
  beginFilter
  UID: [EB5A48C0.01C62A57.7ADD9BF8.52886FDC]
  Name: Set\20Colour\20to\20Reply\20Needed
  Filter: {\0D\0A\20`0`0`\0D\0A}
  SetColour 1302808744
  IsManual
  IsActive
  IsHotkey
  Ignore
  endFilter

  Now for my question.

  Is there a way to have the Virtual Folder, Reply Needed, become
  color coded with the Reply Needed color group when there are messages
  in it? I realize I can choose the Virtual Tab to see my Virtual
  Folders, but I'd like the folder to be colored, if possible, in the
  folder list, but only when there are messages in it.

  I appreciate any help anyone might provide me.

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Re: Regex in Message Finder

2006-02-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Allen,
  A reminder of what Allen Day typed on:
  Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 09:10:27 GMT -0500

AD You'll have to pardon me, I've been away from TB for a year or two and
AD am both a bit rusty with its intricacies and trying to get up to speed
AD with  all  the  changes.  This  time  around, my question is about the
AD message  finder--it used to support regex, but now it doesn't seem to.
AD Am  I  overlooking something or has the power of regex been deprecated
AD from the message finder in exchange for speed?

When using the message finder if you you use Match or Does not Match
you will use regex. If you use Contains or Does no Contain it won't.

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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Perry,
  A reminder of what Perry Nelson typed on:
  Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 09:53:38 GMT -0500

PN   Is there a way to have the Virtual Folder, Reply Needed, become
PN   color coded with the Reply Needed color group when there are messages
PN   in it? I realize I can choose the Virtual Tab to see my Virtual
PN   Folders, but I'd like the folder to be colored, if possible, in the
PN   folder list, but only when there are messages in it.

When you create a color group you can assign the color for the font
and for the background when the messages are read or unread. This
should let you do what you want. Go to
Options/Preferences/Messages/Color Groups  Fonts, select the color
group you want to change and set the Read color to black and the
Unread color to to your color group color. You may have to create a
new color group for this and give it a different name and then assign
it to your virtul folder.

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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Stuart Cuddy  everyone else,

on 05-Feb-2006 at 16:11 you (Stuart Cuddy) wrote:

PN Is there a way to have the Virtual Folder, Reply Needed, become
PN color coded with the Reply Needed color group when there are messages
PN in it? I realize I can choose the Virtual Tab to see my Virtual
PN Folders, but I'd like the folder to be colored, if possible, in the
PN folder list, but only when there are messages in it.

 When you create a color group you can assign the color for the font and
 for the background when the messages are read or unread. This should let
 you do what you want. Go to Options/Preferences/Messages/Color Groups 
 Fonts, select the color group you want to change and set the Read color
 to black and the Unread color to to your color group color. You may have
 to create a new color group for this and give it a different name and
 then assign it to your virtul folder.

I don't think thats it, because if there are *unread* messages in the VF,
it will be shown in bold (by default), anyway. However, what Perry wants to
do (and what I'd like to do as well:-) is to show the folder in a different
color if it *contains* messages, no matter if read or not.

Its the same as showing the outbox with a different icon/colour when there
are drafts or unsent messages in it.

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Re[2]: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Alexander,
  A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on:
  Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 16:19:50 GMT +0100

ASK I don't think thats it, because if there are *unread* messages in the VF,
ASK it will be shown in bold (by default), anyway. However, what Perry wants to
ASK do (and what I'd like to do as well:-) is to show the folder in a different
ASK color if it *contains* messages, no matter if read or not.

ASK Its the same as showing the outbox with a different icon/colour when there
ASK are drafts or unsent messages in it.

I see what you mean. If as part of your marking the messages as
needing to be replied to you mark them as Unread as well then it would
work.

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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Alexander,

Sunday, February 5, 2006, 10:19:50 AM, you wrote:

ASK I don't think thats it, because if there are *unread* messages in
ASK the VF, it will be shown in bold (by default), anyway. However,
ASK what Perry wants to do (and what I'd like to do as well:-) is to
ASK show the folder in a different color if it *contains* messages, no
ASK matter if read or not.

  Yes, that is exactly what I want to do! In my case, the message is
  already read when I use the HotKey to apply the color group. I'm
  guessing from your response that isn't possible at the moment,
  correct?

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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Stuart,

Sunday, February 5, 2006, 10:29:01 AM, you wrote:

ASK However, what Perry wants to do (and what I'd like to do as
ASK well:-) is to show the folder in a different color if it
ASK *contains* messages, no matter if read or not.

SC I see what you mean. If as part of your marking the messages as
SC needing to be replied to you mark them as Unread as well then it
SC would work.

  I'm just made that change, and you are right, it does now show up in
  bold. I haven't yet set the folder to display in the color I want, but
  this change achieves the same objective ... sort of. And I can live
  with this work-around if it isn't possible to have the folder display
  a color group when there are messages in it.

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Re[2]: Regex in Message Finder

2006-02-05 Thread Allen Day

Sunday, February 5, 2006, 10:00:16 AM, Stuart wrote:

 Hello Allen,
   A reminder of what Allen Day typed on:
   Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 09:10:27 GMT -0500

AD message  finder--it used to support regex, but now it doesn't seem to.
AD Am  I  overlooking something or has the power of regex been deprecated
AD from the message finder in exchange for speed?

 When using the message finder if you you use Match or Does not Match
 you will use regex. If you use Contains or Does no Contain it won't.

Ah,  very  good  -- didn't pick up on that subtlety immediately but it
does make sense.  Thanks much!

A.

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Re[2]: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Perry,
  A reminder of what Perry Nelson typed on:
  Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 10:40:03 GMT -0500

PN  I'm just made that change, and you are right, it does now show up in
PN   bold. I haven't yet set the folder to display in the color I want, but
PN   this change achieves the same objective ... sort of. And I can live
PN   with this work-around if it isn't possible to have the folder display
PN   a color group when there are messages in it.

Now you will need another Read filter that will let you mark the
message as read when you reply to it and change the color group back
to normal.

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Re[3]: Regex in Message Finder

2006-02-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Allen,
  A reminder of what Allen Day typed on:
  Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 10:47:50 GMT -0500

AD Ah,  very  good  -- didn't pick up on that subtlety immediately but it
AD does make sense.  Thanks much!

Most welcome.

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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Stuart,

Sunday, February 5, 2006, 10:29:01 AM, you wrote:

SC If as part of your marking the messages as needing to be replied
SC to you mark them as Unread as well then it would work.

  I created a companion READ filter, set to manual, had it mark the
  color group as Generic Group and READ.  I also experimented with a
  Replied filter that takes the same actions but set it so that it
  should occur automatically. After I click send, I'll find out if that
  works.

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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Stuart,

Sunday, February 5, 2006, 10:59:57 AM, you wrote:

SC Now you will need another Read filter that will let you mark the
SC message as read when you reply to it and change the color group back
SC to normal.

  As you'll see from the message I had just composted when this one from
  you came in, I have already done that. And by the way the REPLIED
  filter I created did automatically achieve the same objective once I
  clicked SEND.

  Thanks to both you and Alexander for your assistance.

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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Perry (you dummy),

Sunday, February 5, 2006, 11:07:39 AM, you wrote:

PN As you'll see from the message I had just composted ...

  Actually I didn't compost it, I composed it. (I hate it when that
  happens. ;-)

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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Alexander,

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 16:19:50 +0100 GMT (05/02/2006, 22:19 +0700 GMT),
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK I don't think thats it, because if there are *unread* messages in the VF,
ASK it will be shown in bold (by default), anyway. However, what Perry wants to
ASK do (and what I'd like to do as well:-) is to show the folder in a different
ASK color if it *contains* messages, no matter if read or not.

I see Perry's question has already been answered, but I am a bit
confused here. I thought he used a READ filter, and wouldn't that
mean that all message with that colour group are already read?

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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Perry,
  A reminder of what Perry Nelson typed on:
  Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 09:53:38 GMT -0500

PN Although I created the filter three times for the three accounts I
PN   have, I realized afterwards that I didn't need to do that. I could
PN   have simply selected the filter in one of the accounts and pressed
PN   CTRL-C, to copy it to the clipboard, and then gone to another account
PN   and opened the READ filter section and then pressed CTRL-V to paste
PN   the filter into that account too

Just had a thought here that you could have just created this as a
common filter.

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RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-05 Thread rich gregory
Hello Bat-Folk!

The RegEx we worked on seems to work but only sometimes as today this
email (header excerpt) got thru:

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Linda A. Liar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UG9wdWxhciBwaWxscyAtICQyLjk5L2Rvc2U=?=

Here's the selective download KILL filter:

BeginFilter
Name: Bogus sale
Active: 1
Source: \\Account\Inbox
Target: \\Account\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: (?!Real name) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actions: fkoDetectHeader
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: 
DelAddrItems: 
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 4
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter



Any ideas?

Thx mucho
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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Stuart,

Sunday, February 5, 2006, 11:51:43 AM, you wrote:

PN I could have simply selected the filter in one of the accounts and
PN pressed CTRL-C, to copy it to the clipboard, and then gone to
PN another account and opened the READ filter section and then pressed
PN CTRL-V to paste the filter into that account too

SC Just had a thought here that you could have just created this as a
SC common filter.

  Thanks for the suggestion. I'll consider that in the future for other
  similar filters. I haven't used common filters before, but using them
  for this kind of filter would seem to make sense.

  As one of my taglines says ...

  There is always one more thing to learn about The Bat.
  -- Miguel A. Urech
  
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Re: Concrete example of creating READ filter and a question

2006-02-05 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Stuart,

Sunday, February 5, 2006, 11:51:43 AM, you wrote:

SC Just had a thought here that you could have just created this as a
SC common filter.

  To test this suggestion out, I copied the three filters I created (the
  one to manually mark the message as Reply Needed and UNREAD, the one
  to manually mark it as Generic Group and READ if I changed my mind,
  and the Replied filter that also sets the color group to Generic
  Group and READ automatically after I have replied) and pasted them
  into Common Filters. I then deleted them from each of the accounts.
  However, when I tried to use them, they didn't work.

  I then went back to the Common Filters and realized there is an
  additional tab in it called Share with ... in which I had to check
  each of the accounts to which I wanted each filter to apply. That
  produced the desired results.

  Again, thanks for the suggestion. Using this strategy results in
  having to create fewer filters.

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Re: RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-05 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Sun, 5 Feb 2006,
   @  @  at 11:52:30 -0500, when rich gregory wrote:

 Hello Bat-Folk!

 The RegEx we worked on seems to work but only sometimes as today this
 email (header excerpt) got thru:

 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Linda A. Liar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UG9wdWxhciBwaWxscyAtICQyLjk5L2Rvc2U=?=

We worked on Name address, at your own request, not on address.
That's the reason why Linda Wily Liar got through this what we didn't
work on.

 Here's the selective download KILL filter:

 BeginFilter
 Name: Bogus sale
 Active: 1
 Source: \\Account\Inbox
 Target: \\Account\Inbox
 CopyFolder: none
 MainSet: (?!Real name) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Actions: fkoDetectHeader
 AddGroups:
 DelGroups:
 ForwardTemplate:
 ConfirmTemplate:
 ReplyTemplate:
 FwdAddr:
 RedirectAddr:
 NewAddr:
 NewTemplate:
 ExtCmd:
 ExtFile:
 ExtractDir:
 ColourGroup: default
 AddAddrItems:
 DelAddrItems:
 HotKey: 0
 IsOfColour: default
 SizeBigger: 0
 SizeSmaller: 0
 AgeOlder: 0
 AgeNewer: 0
 InAddrPos: 0
 OutAddrPos: 0
 InAddrGroups:
 NoAddrGroups:
 KillFile:
 KillMethod: 4
 SaveTemplate:
 SndFile:
 SysSound: 0
 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
 EndFilter

Dear Richie Gee, :unreal:

Since we don't like Lindas Any Liers, this Selective Kicking Out filter
kills any her attempt to comloonycate with us 12/7/24/1440/86400:

BeginFilter
Name: For Linda A. Liar
Active: 1
Source: \\Account\Inbox
Target: \\Account\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: From: Linda A. Liar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MainSet: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actions: fkoDetectHeader
AddGroups:
DelGroups:
ForwardTemplate:
ConfirmTemplate:
ReplyTemplate:
FwdAddr:
RedirectAddr:
NewAddr:
NewTemplate:
ExtCmd:
ExtFile:
ExtractDir:
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems:
DelAddrItems:
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups:
NoAddrGroups:
KillFile:
KillMethod: 1
SaveTemplate:
SndFile:
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

What she has offered this time? Enlargement again? (-: You could offer
her a shrinkment in friendly return.

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Re[2]: RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-05 Thread rich gregory
 The RegEx we worked on seems to work but only sometimes as today this
 email (header excerpt) got thru:
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MM We worked on Name address, at your own request, not on address.
MM That's the reason why Linda Wily Liar got through this what we didn't
MM work on.


Sure, we worked on that! Don't you remember?  ;)
(OK, maybe you did all the coding work but I did spec out the job!)

Actually, my original request for help DID mention that
 A) any name that does not = Real Name
OR   B) any name that is BLANK
should be killed. The examples I gave were something like this:
 Good email:Real Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bad email :Incorrect Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bad email :[EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the above example of a spam that did make it thru the name field
was blank.

Actually now I am seeing emails come in with random characters added
as part of the good address such as:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Very distressing!  I wonder (Batters) what more we can do!



MM What she has offered this time? Enlargement again? (-: You could offer
MM her a shrinkment in friendly return.

Wouldn't it be more polite to offer my enlargement to her in return?
(Oh, did I say that out loud?)

Thank you all
Richie G






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Re: RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-05 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Sun, 5 Feb 2006,
   @  @  at 15:04:17 -0500, when rich gregory wrote:

 Sure, we worked on that! Don't you remember?  ;)

Could I forget it? You were silent for a while and I already wanted to
ask you how it goes with the last killer-filter. I wondered if you had
wrecked more mails due to some typo/bad retyping then you wished to...

 (OK, maybe you did all the coding work but I did spec out the job!)

You're decently good too, in specifying the jobs out. Problem is with
those knowing not what they want. Polyvalent thinkers.

 Actually, my original request for help DID mention that

Yes I remember this request, it was interesting, and I did already give
you one very good solution, but...will be that you are not very willing,
or at least are hesitant, to change a bit some routines...okay, that's
not a problem, you will have just to have more filters/work to do then.
Let us see...

  A) any name that does not = Real Name
 OR   B) any name that is BLANK
 should be killed. The examples I gave were something like this:
  Good email:Real Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Bad email :Incorrect Name
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Bad email :[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 In the above example of a spam that did make it thru the name field
 was blank.

Yep. Okay... Well, nothing then, you just will have to add another
filter which will destroy yet on server all what is not addressed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] You can do it by treating entire
header part, with _no_ specific TO, CC etc. field.

It means, any message which doesn't have address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in its header part will be
exterminated from server (the filter is in the flat forefootnote).[1]

Except something like this...

 Actually now I am seeing emails come in with random characters added
 as part of the good address such as:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...hmmm...

 Very distressing!  I wonder (Batters) what more we can do!

...yes, purpose of existence of spammers is to annoy you in order to be
destroyed. Basically those are suicides lacking necessary courage.

I will give you my opinion/solution these days, if you in the mean time
don't get something effective already.

MM What she has offered this time? Enlargement again? (-: You could offer
MM her a shrinkment in friendly return.

 Wouldn't it be more polite to offer my enlargement to her in return?

I didn't get any spam for many moons and few sun eclipses now, and today
I passed through one of them manually to see how it looks. The old same
story. I think the shrinkment would be enough.

 (Oh, did I say that out loud?)

More polite would be something which wouldn't be polite to say it aloud
here. (-:



___

[1]

BeginFilter
Name: For Linda A. Liar 2
Active: 1
Source: \\Account\Inbox
Target: \\Account\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actions: fkoDetectHeader
AddGroups:
DelGroups:
ForwardTemplate:
ConfirmTemplate:
ReplyTemplate:
FwdAddr:
RedirectAddr:
NewAddr:
NewTemplate:
ExtCmd:
ExtFile:
ExtractDir:
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems:
DelAddrItems:
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups:
NoAddrGroups:
KillFile:
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate:
SndFile:
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

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Re[2]: IMAP setup-message bodies not being downloaded

2006-02-05 Thread Stephen Love
Hello Stuart  TBUDL,

Monday, February 6, 2006, 1:52:25 AM, you wrote:

S Hello SL,
S   A reminder of what SL typed on:
S   Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 17:17:57 GMT +1100

S Hello tbudl,

S I can't figure out why The Bat no longer is downloading message bodies
S for my IMAP account.  I am not sure if this started happening when I
S upgraded from Home to Pro (not sure).  (...although it worked fine...I
S think...when I tried Voyager...)

S In 'IMAP Fine Tune', I have 'retrieve message structures...' enabled.
S In 'Manage IMAP Folders' , I have sync mode set to Full Messages/All
S Messages' and I have tried 'New Messages' as well.

SNIPOLA

S It is working well here for me (home and pro). These are the settings
S I would check as well.

S Just noticed you are using 3.65.03, which is the official release
S version, I think. The current beta 3.70.07 is now working correctly
S with IMAP syncing and is the best version I have ever had for IMAP.
S There are still some problems, but message downloading seems to be
S fixed.

Hmm...I am now in the Voyager...and IMAP...with the same settings as
in Pro ver 3.65.03 on my hard drive is doing the same thing...ie
not downloading message bodies(unless I click on the message)

On another matter, I note that the latest/current version of Voyager (which 
basically is a type of
the professional version) is 3.65.02 (not 3.65.03)

Later I might see if I can find the the beta version (3.70.07???) and
try that...



-- 
Thanks,
 Stephenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

8:49 AM Monday, 6 February 2006

Using The Bat! E-mail client ver 3.65.02  (Pro/Voyager...current
official version).  Win XP Serv Pack 2 etc...


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Re[2]: RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-05 Thread rich gregory
 Sure, we worked on that! Don't you remember?  ;)
MM Could I forget it? You were silent for a while and I already wanted to
MM ask you how it goes with the last killer-filter. I wondered if you had
MM wrecked more mails due to some typo/bad retyping then you wished to...

No, a family emergency has been / continues to take all my time. It
continues to keep my mind elsewhere.   :(


 Actually, my original request for help DID mention that
MM Yes I remember this request, it was interesting, and I did already
MM give you one very good solution, but...will be that you are not
MM very willing, or at least are hesitant, to change a bit some
MM routines... okay, that's not a problem, you will have just to have
MM more filters/work to do then. Let us see...

I am not understanding this paragraph too well... I am indeed open to
doing what I must (or thought I was!) but I do not remember any
solution other than:

  (?!Real Name) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Which we now know does not work entirely. If I remember correctly I
was wondering if I would need more than 1 filter... What was odd was
that it seemed to do as hoped in my tests!


 A) any NAME that does not = Real Name  -- OR
 B) any NAME that is BLANK-- Should be killed
MM Yep. Okay... Well, nothing then, you just will have to add another
MM filter which will destroy yet on server all what is not addressed to
MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can do it by treating entire
MM header part, with _no_ specific TO, CC etc. field.
MM It means, any message which doesn't have address
MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] in its header part will be
MM exterminated from server (the filter is in the flat forefootnote).[1]

I am embarrassed to say I do not understand what you are saying here.
(As I said, my mind is very much elsewhere these days.)

The filter below I do not understand either. Can you please tell me
exactly what it is to do? All can see (I think I understand) is that
it looks for ANY mail with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
somewhere in the header... Then what does it do??? (fkoDetectHeader??)

Thank you very much
Rich


MM BeginFilter
MM Name: For Linda A. Liar 2
MM Active: 1
MM Source: \\Account\Inbox
MM Target: \\Account\Inbox
MM CopyFolder: none
MM MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MM Actions: fkoDetectHeader
MM AddGroups:
MM DelGroups:
MM ForwardTemplate:
MM ConfirmTemplate:
MM ReplyTemplate:
MM FwdAddr:
MM RedirectAddr:
MM NewAddr:
MM NewTemplate:
MM ExtCmd:
MM ExtFile:
MM ExtractDir:
MM ColourGroup: default
MM AddAddrItems:
MM DelAddrItems:
MM HotKey: 0
MM IsOfColour: default
MM SizeBigger: 0
MM SizeSmaller: 0
MM AgeOlder: 0
MM AgeNewer: 0
MM InAddrPos: 0
MM OutAddrPos: 0
MM InAddrGroups:
MM NoAddrGroups:
MM KillFile:
MM KillMethod: 0
MM SaveTemplate:
MM SndFile:
MM SysSound: 0
MM SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
MM AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
MM EndFilter


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