Re[2]: upgrading from ver 1.62r
Hello Alto, See my notes, interspersed, below Friday, March 28, 2008, 5:55:27 PM, you wrote: SA As a long time user of The Bat, I have never found it necessary to SA upgrade. However, I no longer have tolerance for ver. 1.62r's lack of SA formatting functionality, and would also like to have more tagging SA options, so, its time to upgrade. AS Please refresh my memory, what has changed since v1.6x and the current AS version in regard to formatting? I can hardly recall a thing that AS wasn't already there in the old versions. Ver. 1.62r only allows messages to be composed in straight text. No font variation, no bold face, no italics, no non-Roman characters, etc. AS Are you using IMAP? If so, you should be aware that IMAP doesn't work AS in v4. On the other hand, if you're only using POP you might get AS something out of the upgrade. I am not using IMAP. See my additional response about IMAP on the Best way to use the Bat on two home computers thread. Thanks, for your help. -- Avram Sacks Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hello Dwight, Friday, March 28, 2008, 5:58:31 PM, you wrote: DAC There is no reason why one cannot collect one's mail on both the DAC laptop and the desktop. Saves lots of trouble. Just need to bcc DAC yourself. DAC Better yet, switch to IMAP and leave POP behind. You'll be glad you DAC did. I don't use IMAP--at least not yet. If I understand it correctly, with IMAP, I would leave all of my mail on my ISP's server, and both the desktop and laptop could simultaneously access the mail. However, it seems to me that this would be constrained by how much space I am permitted to have on the ISP's mail server. My mail folder occupies about 635 MB of space. I also don't like the idea of leaving personal mail on an outside server. After reading all of the posts on this subject, It seems to me that I could do the following: download mail to either the laptop or the desktop, but then use the synchronization feature of The Bat to make sure that both machines have the same mail on their hard drives. Would this also work to automatically copy to the laptop all of the mail on the desktop, the first time I invoke synchronization on the laptop? Thanks, Avram Sacks Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: upgrading from ver 1.62r
Guten Morgen, MJS Let me bite on this one! You're very welcome. g MJS Now I really hope someone in the list can confirm or otherwise that MJS RITLAbs is working on full IMAP support for v4.1 There are mails from the beta-list where RIT promises just that. Like they did for v4.0. And 3.5. And 3.0, if I remember corretly. I haven't been around for IMAP any earlier, so I can't speak to what happened then. They mentioned that they would have to redesign the message base format to properly support IMAP and that they would tackle this in v4.1 (which at this time is intended to be a non-free update, by the way.) MJS because I have a lot of trouble understanding but generally it MJS works, when it clearly does NOT! It's like being a little bit MJS pregnant, either you are or you aren't. That's funny - this is what came to my mind word by word. I absolutely agree: To be used in any serious environment IMAP doesn't have to work at just one time, it has to work _every_ time. Even most of the time would hardly be enough, since this still can mean the difference between closing that deal in time or loosing money on it big time because you literally never got the message. MJS I will go so far as to say it will be difficult for TB to retain the MJS crown as a credible alternative in the corporate arena without IMAP support. The way I see it this crown has been passed on quite some time ago. There was a time when email was POP3 and TheBat hat the works for corporate grade. Today, corporate email is either Exchange or IMAP. TheBat/Exchange is incomplete (no calendar management so our corporate client will use Outlook anyway) and TheBat/IMAP is unreliable. It might as well not exist. MJS Frankly none of RITLAbs answers satisfies me, so maybe we can MJS shame someone there into giving us hope this matter will be MJS resolved soon. I tried that, belive me. It seems the problem is that only one or two guys from RIT even understand english, so you can throw anything at them without any effect. Again, I've walked that road. -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpQameprN8KJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hello Dwight, Sunday, March 30, 2008, 3:02:13 AM, you wrote: DC I've been very satisfied with fastmail, and there are others out there DC too, some even free. I'm using IMAP with Fastmail and AIM Mail. But that's only a fraction of my email. Most goes trough my domain names. DC your message caused me to look at my provider's email services. They DC never mention IMAP in their entire documentation. From their POV it's probably a wise decision. :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.20 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hello Achdut18, Sunday, March 30, 2008, 7:25:17 AM, you wrote: A After reading all of the posts on this subject, It seems to me that I A could do the following: download mail to either the laptop or the A desktop, but then use the synchronization feature of The Bat to make A sure that both machines have the same mail on their hard drives. A Would this also work to automatically copy to the laptop all of the A mail on the desktop, the first time I invoke synchronization on the A laptop? Synchronisation is a three step process and so you don't want to be doing this on a daily basis. It would be nice if it were possible to do this automatically over a network. The solution I have used for a long time was to use TheBat Voyager on a memory stick. I could carry it with me between work and home. I've stopped using Voyager for now until version 4 is released. Then I will probably continue with Voyager after I get the tiniest USB device I can find. Since I have a small laptop, I don't want something big sticking out the side of it. But Voyager is by far the best way to keep email with you no matter what machine you're on. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! 4.0.20 on Windows XP Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hello Doug, Sunday, March 30, 2008, 3:31:59 PM, you wrote: DH Hello Achdut18, DH Sunday, March 30, 2008, 7:25:17 AM, you wrote: A After reading all of the posts on this subject, It seems to me that I A could do the following: download mail to either the laptop or the A desktop, but then use the synchronization feature of The Bat to make A sure that both machines have the same mail on their hard drives. A Would this also work to automatically copy to the laptop all of the A mail on the desktop, the first time I invoke synchronization on the A laptop? DH Synchronisation is a three step process and so you don't want to be doing this on a DH daily basis. Is it really that involved? DH The solution I have used for a long time was to use TheBat Voyager on a memory stick. DH I could carry it with me between work and home. But, I don't want to carry it with me so much, as I want to use it at home, in two different offices, on two different computers (the main or desktop computer and the second or laptop computer DH I've stopped using Voyager for now until version 4 is released. It is released because I just installed it! DH Then I will probably DH continue with Voyager after I get the tiniest USB device I can find. Since I have a DH small laptop, I don't want something big sticking out the side of it. But Voyager DH is by far the best way to keep email with you no matter what machine you're on. But, I don't see that working for me so much if I already have two computers linked together on a network. -- Avram Sacks Using (finally!) The Bat 4.0.1.8 on Windows XP Pro SP2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hello Achdut18, On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:36:37 -0500 GMT (31/03/2008, 04:36 +0700 GMT), Achdut18 wrote: DH Synchronisation is a three step process and so you don't want to be doing this on a DH daily basis. A Is it really that involved? This is how I have been synchronising for years: Each outgoing mail is BCC'ed to myself. This way, not only the incoming but also the outgoing mails are on each computer on which I check them. TB! is on each computer is set to leave messages on the server, albeit it is possible to set one computer to a number of days after which you are sure that each PC has downloaded the mails. If you use each computer every day (including weekends), then 2 days is enough. BBC'ing to yourself was mentioned earlier in this thread, I don't whether you saw this. IMAP or webmail are no option for me due to unreliable and somewhat slow internet connections. I need to have the mails on the computer (or USB stick), and let POP or SMTP do their slow work in the background. -- Cheers, Thomas. 100 000 Muenchner koennen Deutsche werden. * http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Getting AVs?
Hi list members, I got one AV the bat.exe so far. I just shut down TB and it is fine again. Funny thing, it did not log the crash. Can anyone confirm? -- Michael J. Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using the world's best e-mail client: The Bat! Pro v4.0.20 with AntispamSniper Pro v2.7.1.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 13 POP3 accounts. Using the fastest browser: Opera 9.2.6 ___ www.TechniSmart.com Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
