Forwarding HTML attachments

2010-07-30 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Bats!

I receive daily comic strips in the form of HTML.  Although TB! now
allows me to view these from within TB!, they each come with an HTML
attachment called MESSAGE.HTML. These attachments are represented as
FireFox icons and if you click on one, FireFox gets launched and goes
straight to the URL which contains the comic.

As a test I forwarded one of these to my GMAIL account and saw that,
prior to sending, the FireFox attachment was replaced by an attachment
called 1.EML.  The email I received in GMAIL showed that there *was*
an attachment (called 1.EML) but when I clicked on it, a screen full
of HTML code appeared.

Am I somehow not viewing the message properly from GMAIL or, since the
FireFox icon attachment is nowhere to be found when the message is
forwarded, cannot properly view the attachment?


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Jack LaRosa

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Re: Automatic backups

2010-07-30 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Thursday 29 July 2010 at 6:09:04 PM, in
mid:227678615.20100729200...@cytanet.com.cy, Costas Papadopoulos
wrote:

 Please note that I never tried or tested the suggested backup
 method.

I use something very similar, having got the idea from this list but
since lost the reference - probably indirectly attributable to the
same source.

I export the registry key to the program directory and then use 7-zip
to create archives of the program directory and the mail directory;
the fourth most recent backup is deleted before creating the new one.
I don't run the batch file every time I run TB! because creating the
backup of my mail directory takes over 30 minutes and massively slows
my computer; the program directory backup only takes a few seconds. 
Than wrinkle aside, this system works very well.


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Re: Forwarding HTML attachments

2010-07-30 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Friday 30 July 2010 at 3:16:20 PM, in
mid:491928220.20100730091...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 Am I somehow not viewing the message properly from
 GMAIL or, since the FireFox icon attachment is nowhere
 to be found when the message is forwarded, cannot
 properly view the attachment?  

I can't answer your specific question about gmail but can report that
forwarding HTML emails in the normal way is unreliable for me. If I
forward the message as an attachment, it generally gets there intact.
For clarity, I mean that I attach the *entire* message to my outgoing 
email and not just the HTML attachment.

Try forwarding to an account you access through TB! and see if it can
be viewed properly. Better still, use POP or IMAP to look at your
gmail account; that might possibly show it was received properly but
the web interface has a problem.


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Re: Forwarding HTML attachments

2010-07-30 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Friday, July 30, 2010 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Friday 30 July 2010 at 3:16:20 PM, in
M mid:491928220.20100730091...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 Am I somehow not viewing the message properly from
 GMAIL or, since the FireFox icon attachment is nowhere
 to be found when the message is forwarded, cannot
 properly view the attachment?  

M I can't answer your specific question about gmail but can report that
M forwarding HTML emails in the normal way is unreliable for me. If I
M forward the message as an attachment, it generally gets there intact.
M For clarity, I mean that I attach the *entire* message to my outgoing 
M email and not just the HTML attachment.

M Try forwarding to an account you access through TB! and see if it can
M be viewed properly. Better still, use POP or IMAP to look at your
M gmail account; that might possibly show it was received properly but
M the web interface has a problem.

Prior to my installing v4.2.36.4 yesterday, FORWARDing an HTML email
always included the FireFox HTML attachment automatically in the
forward.  That feature was lost or misplaced in the latest version.

Upon receipt of your reply I started experimenting based on what you
wrote.  It never would have occurred to me to include the original
email from the comic strips as an attachment to my recipient. Before I
was successful in figuring out *how* to attach an entire email to an
outgoing email, I discovered that by right-clicking on the FireFox
attachment contained in the original email, I was presented with an
option to RESEND TO... Clicking on that drop-down menu option starts a
blank email with the FireFox attachment...attached.

Since I didn't care about the body of the original comics email,
resending the HTML attachment is really all I need.

But just out of curiosity, how *DO* you attach an entire email to
another outgoing email?

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Jack LaRosa

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Re: Forwarding HTML attachments

2010-07-30 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Friday 30 July 2010 at 5:32:03 PM, in
mid:673336990.20100730113...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 Hello MFPA,

 On Friday, July 30, 2010 you wrote:

M Hi

M On Friday 30 July 2010 at 3:16:20 PM, in
M mid:491928220.20100730091...@charter.net, Jack S.
M LaRosa wrote:

 Am I somehow not viewing the message properly from
 GMAIL or, since the FireFox icon attachment is
 nowhere to be found when the message is forwarded,
 cannot properly view the attachment?

M I can't answer your specific question about gmail but
M can report that forwarding HTML emails in the normal
M way is unreliable for me. If I forward the message as
M an attachment, it generally gets there intact. For
M clarity, I mean that I attach the *entire* message to
M my outgoing  email and not just the HTML attachment.

M Try forwarding to an account you access through TB!
M and see if it can be viewed properly. Better still,
M use POP or IMAP to look at your gmail account; that
M might possibly show it was received properly but the
M web interface has a problem.

 Prior to my installing v4.2.36.4 yesterday, FORWARDing
 an HTML email always included the FireFox HTML
 attachment automatically in the forward.  

In 4.0.38 my experience when manually forwarding is that nearly always
happens but very occasionally the HTML attachment (or any other
attachment) isn't sent. When automatically forwarding by filter
actions the other attachments are not sent over half the time and the 
HTML one not sent 10-20% of the time unless I tick use MIME envelope 
for original message.



 That feature was lost or misplaced in the latest version.

I've not got there yet...



 Upon receipt of your reply I started experimenting
 based on what you wrote.  It never would have occurred
 to me to include the original email from the comic
 strips as an attachment to my recipient. Before I was
 successful in figuring out *how* to attach an entire
 email to an outgoing email, I discovered that by
 right-clicking on the FireFox attachment contained in
 the original email, I was presented with an option to
 RESEND TO... Clicking on that drop-down menu option
 starts a blank email with the FireFox
 attachment...attached.

That never occurred to me!



 Since I didn't care about the body of the original
 comics email, resending the HTML attachment is really
 all I need.

Fair enough.



 But just out of curiosity, how *DO* you attach an
 entire email to another outgoing email?  


Method One

   Open a new email

   Drag the message you are forwarding from the message list to
   the new message window you just opened and drop it.
   
   This works for most email clients I've used.
   

Method Two

   Alternative Forward from the Specials menu 
   (or Shift+Alt+F5)
   
   The body to which the forwarded message is attached will have 
   whatever content is created by the forwarding template being 
   used.
   

Method Three

   Go to Account Properties | Templates | Forward 
   
   Place a tick in the box labelled 
   Forward messages as attachments (MIME standard)
   
   This has the effect of switching around the Forward and 
   Alternative Forward functions so that selecting Forward 
   (or CTRL+o) creates a new message with the message attached 
   that you wish to forward. 



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Re: Forwarding HTML attachments

2010-07-30 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Friday, July 30, 2010 you wrote:

-- SNIP -

 But just out of curiosity, how *DO* you attach an
 entire email to another outgoing email?  


M Method One

MOpen a new email

MDrag the message you are forwarding from the message list to
Mthe new message window you just opened and drop it.
M
MThis works for most email clients I've used.

This method doesn't seem to work for me. Although I can drag the
original message I'm trying to forward into the new blank message, the
resulting attachment becomes 1.eml and when received in my Gmail
account, contains nothing but HTML code.

M Method Two

MAlternative Forward from the Specials menu 
M(or Shift+Alt+F5)
M
MThe body to which the forwarded message is attached will have 
Mwhatever content is created by the forwarding template being 
Mused.

Here's the kind of thing that gives me an attack of the vapors (You
might need to look that up. Your photo looks youthful.)

If in AccountProperties-Templates-Forward, the
Forward-messages-as-attachments (MIME standard) is ticked, then
SHIFT-ALT-F5 generates a forward with the with the HTML attachment
intact. However, clicking on the FORWARD arrow at top generates a
forward with the HTML attachment replaced with the 1.eml attachment.

If on the other hand in AccountProperties-Templates-Forward, the
Forward-messages-as-attachments (MIME standard) is UN-ticked, then
SHIFT-ALT-F5 now produces a forward with 1.eml replacing the original
HTML attachment. However, clicking on the FORWARD arrow at top
generates a forward *WITH* the HTML attachment *JUST AS IT USED TO BE*
before I upgraded to 4.2.36.4.

I was sure I tried every possible combination of generating forwards
before I asked for help but I see now this old addled brain must be on a
downward, slippery slope towards senility.

M Method Three

MGo to Account Properties | Templates | Forward 
M
MPlace a tick in the box labelled 
MForward messages as attachments (MIME standard)
M
MThis has the effect of switching around the Forward and 
MAlternative Forward functions so that selecting Forward 
M(or CTRL+o) creates a new message with the message attached 
Mthat you wish to forward.
M

See above.



Thanks M.

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